30 Year Old 10/10 Will ONLY Date A BILLIONAIRE?! 5ft Girl ONLY Dates 6ft2+ Men?! | Dating Talk #235

Date: 2025-03-24

Duration: 7h 49m

Guests

Brian Atlas

SSelena (Bottle)>

EEve (Pre-Med)>

HHaley (Below Deck)>

DDestiny (Vet)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Eve (Pre-Med)(guest)

SPEAKER_03Alana(guest)

SPEAKER_04Felicity(guest)

SPEAKER_05Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_08Haley (Below Deck)(guest)

SPEAKER_10Mitchie(guest)

SPEAKER_11Selena (Bottle)(guest)

SPEAKER_12Alex Amora(guest)

SPEAKER_13Destiny (Vet)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduced including Below Deck TV personality and 3rd-time Alex Amora

ControversyAlex demands billionaire minimum husband income

Key MomentDestiny: ~25-50% of men she encountered attempted assault

Key MomentHaley: sugar daddy gifted £200K house, ~£1M total from primary arrangement

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Alex Amora (3rd appearance), Haley (Below Deck), Eve, Mitchie, Selena, Alana, Destiny, Felicity.

Alex Billionaire Demand

Alex demands billionaire minimum. Extended debate on sincerity vs trolling.

Man vs Bear

Destiny reveals 25-50% of men she encountered attempted assault.

Trans Identity Debate

Extended debate on trans women, sex vs gender, criminal penalties for misgendering.

Body Count Round

Haley ~300 (half work-related). Mitchie lost count (hundreds). Alana ~15. Destiny 2.

Haley Sugar Daddy/Escort History

£200K house gift. £3-4K/night escorting. £15K for Hawaii trip. ~£1M total from primary sugar daddy.

Transcript

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Alex Amoraoccupation, where you're from, and education. Go ahead. It's a lot. Um, hi everybody. I'm Alex. The last time I was on this Go ahead. You're not you, not just Go ahead. Okay. The last time I was

Alex Amoraon this podcast, I was still using my fake name. So, my real name is Alex. I'm 27 now. I'm from Arizona. What else? What I do for a living? Yeah. Social media and reality

Brian AtlasTV star. And don't you do you do Only Fans too? Is that correct? That's social media. Yeah. Okay. If I can list all the platforms if you want. Okay. What's your primary platform?

Alex AmoraTypically people have primary platforms. Well, how I make money primarily? H only fans. Check it out. Um, and my education. Yeah. I graduated

Brian Atlaspremed from University of Arizona. Bear down. You got your bachelor's. Yeah. Okay. Ped. And uh you said you're from Arizona and then you were recently on a

Alex Amorareality TV show. Is that correct? Yep. Okay. Which one? Did do I'm sorry. You're supposed to ask me the questions. Yeah. Which one? Temptation Island on Netflix. Do you know what a prompt is?

Selena (Bottle)Hello. Do you know what a prompt is? [ __ ] ridiculous. You always say don't cut you off. So, I'm I'm asking I'm waiting for the question. All right. What about you? Hi, I'm Selena. I'm 22

Selena (Bottle)and I'm from San Francisco, but I live in Las Vegas and I do bottle service and content creation. And then I also just got my bachelor's of science in

Brian Atlasentrepreneurship from San Jose State. Okay. And uh you're from where again? Sorry. San Francisco. San Francisco. Got it. Okay. And you do Only Fans? I do. Yes. What kind of content do you do on

Selena (Bottle)there? Um, I just started, so I'm super new, but I did a little bit of everything. So, some fun stuff. Entra Entrepreneurship

Selena (Bottle)is a Bachelor of Science. Yeah, it's a it's a Bachelor of Science in Business Administration.

MitchieYes. What about you? Hi, I'm Mitchi. I'm 28. Um, I work in nightlife. I also do content creation. And then I'm from Los Angeles. Okay. Mitchie. Is it short for

Brian AtlasMichelle or? Um it's Mitchell. Mitchell. Okay. But you go by Mitchi. Yeah. Okay. And uh you said you're from Los Angeles. Any uh I might miss this education.

Brian AtlasYeah. I have a bachelor's in media. From what university? Um Riverside. River. UC Riverside. UCR. Okay. And uh is it a bachelor of arts? Yeah, it's a bachelor of arts. B of arts. Okay. Got it. What

Eve (Pre-Med)about you? Hi, I'm Eve. I'm from Santa Cruz, California. I'm a full-time student at Cababrio College. I'm a health science major. Sorry, could you repeat your uh age? Yeah, I'm 19. 19.

Brian AtlasOkay. And you're working on a bachelor's degree? Yes. In in what? Um, health science. Health science. Got it. Okay. Any work currently? Any job or full-time student? Full-time student. Okay, cool.

Haley (Below Deck)What about you? I'm Haley. I'm 35. I'm an aesthetics practitioner slashTV personality slash only fans

Brian Atlascreator and I'm from London education college that's it. Okay. Did you like uh completed some like did you

Haley (Below Deck)get an associates degree or no whatever the equivalent would be in I literally just did like my first year of college and then I started working. I went away and worked on the big boat. So yeah. All

Alanaright. Uh what about you? Um, my name is Alana. I am 20 and I'm studying dance at Cababrio. All right. And where are you

Brian Atlasfrom? Santa Cruz. Santa Cruz. Got it. And are you a second year or third year? Um, second year. Wait, is it UC Santa Cruz or Um, no, it's it's the community

Brian Atlascollege. The community college in Santa Cruz. Got it. And you said dance. Are you is there a focus like ballet or? Um, I do like circus dance mainly. Um,

Destiny (Vet)circus dance. What's that? Like aerial arts. Okay. It's like the flying stuff. That's really cool. Okay. All right. Cool. What about you? Um, I'm Destiny.

Destiny (Vet)I'm 18 years old. I work at a vet clinic. So, I'm a vet assistant and I graduated high school. All right. And, uh, where are you from? Um, I'm from

Brian AtlasOrange County. Orange County. Okay. And are you in like a city college at all or? Um, no, not yet. Are you planning to go or just taking some time off? Taking some time off. Okay. All right. What

Felicityabout you? My name is Felicity. I'm 18 from Santa Barbara. I'm a dental assistant and I'm in college for business. All right. Great. Uh, we're going to go around the table once more.

Brian AtlasWhat is everybody's current relationship status? Uh, if you're single, how long have you been single? And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in? What about you? I'm currently

Alex Amorasingle. I went on a dating show that that wasn't for um that purpose. Um I've been single for over three years now. And my longest relationship was three

Brian Atlasand a half or four years. So single for four years. Uh the three and a half four year relationship. Is that the one that ended three years ago? No. Okay. Uh the

Brian Atlasfour year the four-year relationship who broke up with who? I broke up with them. Okay. And then the most recent relationship, how long was that one? Like a year and a half.

Selena (Bottle)Um, okay. And then who broke up with who on that one? That one was more so mutual. Okay, got it. All right. What about you? Uh, I'm also single. I've been single for about 2 and 1/2 years.

Selena (Bottle)All right. Two and a half years. Longest relationship? My longest was about 3 years, and that was the one that ended last. Okay. Uh, who broke up with who? It was me, but it was kind of like

Selena (Bottle)mutual because we just I was moving and it just it wasn't going to work. We couldn't do long distance. Okay, got it. Um, I'm celibate for like one and a half

Mitchieyears. So, single. Yes. Safe to assume. Well, single, not dating. Although, I suppose you could be in a relationship and celibate. Um, no, that's absinate. Celibate means like no dating or like

Mitchieeven like kissing or holding hands or anything. of it was my understanding of the Hold on. My understanding of the term celibacy pertains to uh sex. I think that's abstinate. Celibacy is sex. Celibacy. Well, that one's like sex,

Andrew Wilsontoo, but that one's I think it's also dating included or like any like interaction with like maybe the the definition that I have here just to kind of maybe clear this up, the state of

Andrew Wilsonabstaining from marriage and sexual relations. Yes, sir. Okay. just maybe clear clear it up a little

Brian Atlasbit. Thank you. Um, okay. Well, we're not going to argue about the definition of celibacy, but in any case, uh, so you're not dating anybody? No. Okay. And you've been

Mitchiecelibate for a year and a half. How long have you been single? I don't claim anybody as my ex, so my whole life. What do you mean you don't

Haley (Below Deck)claim claim anybody as your ex? It It never happened. I never talk to anybody. Okay. Interesting. I like that. You know what? Um Oh, yeah. So, they just don't

Haley (Below Deck)do they just not exist to you now? Is that what it is? Wait, what? Do they just not exist to you now? You just don't talk to them. You don't talk about them. It never happened. Yes. Okay. Let

Brian Atlasme use that one, girl. Um, so when was your uh what was your longest relationship? Um, I never had one.

Brian AtlasYeah. I mean, that's cute and all, but um what was your longest relationship? I never had one. Well, you you're perhaps

Brian Atlasuh I don't know if the words delusional is appropriate or you're just choosing to not remember it, but that in which

Brian Atlasyou're choosing to not remember, you did in fact objectively have a relationship. Can you define relationship?

Brian AtlasWhat? Whatever your sense. Did you call them boyfriend? No. And you weren't there? Did you say I love you to them? No. Okay. Then I'll ask a different

Brian Atlasquestion. What is the longest uh consecutive period of time that you dated somebody? Probably like eight months. Eight

Brian Atlasmonths. Okay. And is this the individual in which you choose to not remember? Yes. Okay. How long ago was that? I don't recall.

Brian AtlasSo, I think it's quite funny actually. I might start doing this. That's what I delete my memory of any trauma to help people. So, I don't really know how to have a

Brian Atlasproductive conversation with you about this is a dating discussion podcast if you're just going to I don't you don't remember.

Brian AtlasI mean, the last time I wasn't celebrate. So, this is recent because you've been celibate for a year and a half. How

Brian Atlasabout this? The eight-month individual who you were seeing Was this the last person you had sex

Brian Atlaswith? Yes. So, is it safe to say you saw him a year and a half ago since you've been celibate for a year and a half? Mhm.

Brian AtlasOkay. Thank you for that. Um, you're welcome.

Brian AtlasWhat I'm just curious, so you weren't in love with him. You only dated for eight months. Why do you want to forget about it? It doesn't seem like it was that serious.

Haley (Below Deck)No, that's exactly why cuz like it wasn't serious. So like I don't want to think about it. Do you do this with friend relationships as well or is it just sexual sometimes

Haley (Below Deck)with friends? It depends like if they like did me dirty then like maybe it's something from your past maybe that's why you do that. Maybe. I don't know. I'm just thinking it might be a trauma kind of thing that you choose to forget about it and just pretend it didn't

Haley (Below Deck)happen. I don't know. Yeah. No, I feel like that's like I just Yeah. Was it a traumatic relationship?

Brian AtlasI don't I wouldn't like say so. Was think who broke up with who? Um I like ghosted him. You ghosted him? Okay. Were you cheating on him? Oh my god. No. Was

Brian Atlashe cheating on you? He wasn't like cheating cuz like he wasn't my man. There was no conversations about exclusivity or anything like that. Um like there was but it's not like he it's

Brian Atlasnot like he wanted to be exclusive. So that's why I don't consider him like I was dating. Can I ask you just why you both of you are smiling? Do you find this amusing? I mean honestly, yeah. Yeah. This is kind of this interesting

Brian Atlasconduct when women are just being intentionally kind of uh malicious, especially when invited on a podcast in good faith. And I'm asking my questions in good faith. Um let's try to fix the

Brian Atlassplits, Blake. Um so it's kind of interesting that you kind of revel in this sort of trollish. No, it's a little bit. No, don't come at

Alex Amorame. It's a little bit empty. coming at you because you're like smiling and you're wrestling because it's uncomfortable. How else do you want me to react? It's funny. You're getting riled up. You could have just said move on next. You're continuing the conversation. So, no, I'd rather just

Brian Atlaspeople engage in good faith in the conversation. So, I don't think I'm getting even if your assessment is that I'm getting riled up. Do you think there are situations in which it's justified for people to be like, "Oh, okay. This person's like [ __ ] with me. I'm kind

Brian Atlasof upset by this." Okay, I'm going to take it over then next. No, you're not going to take it over. You're coming at me because I'm just sitting here like, "Yeah, because I I'm noticing that there's kind of a lack of accountability

Brian Atlasgoing on." How is this my problem? Because you're literally like you're smiling because it's like uh cuz the conversation and you're literally Stop. You're literally admitting You're

Brian Atlasliterally admitting when I called you out on it. You sound so unhinged. Just move the conversation. Do you want to be kicked out cuz we can just kick you out because you were trolling before the show. You're giving me a bunch of flack before

Brian Atlasthe show. How was I? Look, I don't want to deal with your attitude today. So, if you if you want to, you know, play this game, we can. If you want to roll your eyes, we can. I'm trying to have a good faith

Alex Amoraconversation. Point blank period. Okay. Can you ask the viewers if me smiling was me trolling the conversation? I'm so I didn't say that. What did you say

Brian Atlasthen? I was asking you why when she's trolling, you guys are reing in the fact that she's like trolling the podcast and disrupting it instead of being like, "Wo, this is kind of annoying behavior."

Alex AmoraHow? Wait, how am I post? If you want to have a conversation, you could have I'm I thought you were entertaining it because you thought it was entertaining. So, if you're No, I was trying. No, I was not

Brian Atlasattempting to entertain it. I was clearly like, "Okay, this is kind of annoying." And then I was just asking like roundabout ways to get the information that could have just easily been answered by, oh yeah, the last guy

Brian AtlasI dated uh like a year and a half ago, dated him for 8 months. That would have been it. That's all I needed. How is that unhinged to be frustrated? Because you're reing in it.

Brian AtlasI'm literally sitting here. Didn't even say anything. Yes. And so now I'm having a meta conversation about the fact that both of you are smiling, seemingly enjoying, not frustrated with her, but

Brian Atlasenjoying the degree to which she's sort of like sabotaging the show. Do you understand? I don't. I'm not really sure if she was trolling like kind of she it could be kind of serious. Okay, but you

Alex Amorakept going with the conversation. So how is that our problem? Like I thought you're entertaining it for entertainment purposes. I know what the show entails. I've been on it two times already. You feed into it. So people get mad. If that's what you're trying to insight

Brian Atlashere, that's totally a total straw man. Total straw man. I want pe Look, I want I prefer smooth streams. There's there's a component of entertainment, but if I'm trying to have a good faith conversation with somebody Yeah. I want them to just

Brian Atlasanswer the questions. And this is just like obnoxious to the viewers. They don't like it when people are just like Yeah. They they don't like it when people are just like beating around the bush when it comes to answering

Brian Atlasquestions. Did I answer my questions? I was directing that at her, not at you. Okay. So, I apologize for smiling. It was more than that. You were

Alex AmoraI apolog It was It was funny cuz y'all were going back and forth. I apologize. I genuinely do. If you are truly upset by me smiling, not really upset by it. I was questioning why because it's it's a

Brian Atlasfem Hey, you got to if you got to hide that, Blake, because it's like blocking Andrew. Okay. Um, it's like an interesting female phenomenon where it's like there's like

Brian Atlasthis sort of malevolence in which you enjoy men getting frustrated, like justly frustrated by something and you kind of like enjoy when men get frustrated and it's like this sort of

Brian Atlasmalevolent thing. And so I'm like actually having a meta conversation about like why is it that like women sort of like enjoy seeing like men like trolling men and getting them frustrated? I think you're projecting because how was that projection? That's

Alex Amoraliterally what you were doing. No, it wasn't. You guys were going back and forth in a conversation that you could have easily as the host just said, "Okay, we're moving on on." But the thing is, no, I kept going back and

Brian Atlasforth allow that standard. I'm not going to stop. I'm not going to allow the standard of like we've invited people on in good faith. I'm not going to just say, "Okay, you can um just not answer a

Brian Atlasbasic question when you've been invited onto the podcast." So your your solution is, "Oh, Brian, ignore the troll. Move it on." No, I'm going to Sounds logical to me. I'm going to confront the troll and have them participate in good faith

Brian Atlasor they can kindly get kicked and leave the podcast. Do you understand? Sure. But that has nothing to do with me. So, do you want to answer the question in good faith? I've never had a

Brian Atlasrelationship. So, okay. I did answer it. You did date a guy for a period of eight months. Okay. But it wasn't exclusive. And it was a year and a half ago when

Eve (Pre-Med)you guys broke up. Yes. Okay. Go ahead. I'm currently in a relationship. How long have you guys been dating? 5 months. It's not too long. Longest

Haley (Below Deck)relationship? Three and a half yearsish. Cool. What about you? I'm currently in a relationship. I have been for the past 5 years. Not 5 years. God Jesus. Um 6

Haley (Below Deck)months. But my last relationship was 5 years too long. Got that a little bit confused and got it the wrong way around. Sorry about that.

AlanaOkay. How And your current relationship is how long again? 6 months. 6 months. Okay. And you said longest was like 5 years. 5 years. Yeah. What about you? Oh, um I have a husband. No, I'm just

Alanakidding. Um that's what I call him, but it literally just started talking to him. But um that's cute though. Same girl. That's cute. It's not like serious. It's not like

Alanaexclusive yet. We just started talking. So So you're in a relationship or? Yep. Got the ring. No, I'm just kidding. Um yeah. Can you talk a little louder? I just Oh, yes. I am in a relationship.

Brian AtlasOkay. And you've been seeing him for a month or how long? Um like yeah a month. Okay. Longest

Brian Atlasrelationship? 3 years. 3 years. When did that end?

Brian AtlasUm a while ago. Like four years ago. Okay. So, uh you're 20. So it ended when you were like 16.

Brian AtlasYeah. Okay. Okay. So, you dated him from like 13 to 16? The guy? Oh, no. No. It must have been

Alanalike two, three years ago. I dated him in like freshman year of high school to like

Alanaum junior year, you know? I'm not 100% sure, but it was like 3 years. Okay. And how did you meet the current

Alanaguy that you're seeing? Omeigle. Okay.

Haley (Below Deck)You just FaceTime random strangers a different way instead of Tinder, you know? Well, so you just FaceTime them immediately. Oh, don't come at me. I didn't do that. Oh, no. I'm just like trying to understand. That sounds pretty

Eve (Pre-Med)intense. I mean, it's kind of better than Tinder. At least you get to talk to the person, but I don't think Omegle was like a dating site. Like, I personally wouldn't. But I'm pretty sure I am her friend. I'm pretty sure it happened naturally. Like, they were both like

Alanatrolling one night and they just happened to connect. I thought it was banned. Okay. I thought the same thing. It's not Omegle. It's like the new one that's

Alanalike the same thing, just a different name. Are you exclusive with this guy? Uh, no. Are there other guys in the picture?

AlanaNo. Okay. But you guys haven't had a conversation about exclusivity or monogamy. We're just like taking it slow. I don't know. So, is this just

SPEAKER_14like a hookup casual sneaky link type thing or? No. He's not your boyfriend, right? No, he's long distance. So, like Have you guys met in person? No.

SPEAKER_14Catfish? I just met I don't know. I'm They FaceTime. could be an AI though these days, it you're in a relationship with a guy you've never met with. We're not like in

Brian Atlasa like a relationship. It's just like the person I'm talking to currently. Okay. So, you're in the talking stage. Yeah. But it's not There's other Are there other guys that you're talking to?

Destiny (Vet)Like do you have a roster? Um, no, not really. Okay. All right. What about you? I am single and I last

Destiny (Vet)dated a guy like probably a year and a half ago, maybe a little more. And it was my longest relationship was like four and a half years on and off. All

Brian Atlasright, Felicity, what about you? I'm in a relationship. It's my longest relationship going on two years. All right. Okay. Uh All right. So, we're going to get into some of the uh

Brian Atlaspre-show notes, but first we have a couple chats coming through. Apologize for the delay on these guys. Um, Gloavius donated

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Brian Atlasmacaroni, jelly, cheese, cheese, and our favorite, salt, and vinegar. Don't Don't finish this. Don't finish this. Oh, they're trying to get you to say the N

Brian Atlasword. Thank you, Glactavius. That was Oh my god, that was ridiculous. It's my answer.

SPEAKER_01Roast beef punani donated $200. It's very calculated, isn't it?

Brian AtlasGood. Thank you for that. Nice one. It's a good sound. Lovely. Can I smile now?

Brian AtlasAll right. Thank you for that. Uh I do appreciate the uh the sprinkler or whatever that was. Thank you. All right. We're going to get into the uh pre-show notes. Why don't we uh start there? So,

Brian Atlasuh actually, you know what? Let's uh let's start with the questionnaire first. I think that'll be more interesting. Uh, what would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your

Alex Amorafuture husband? Me? Yeah, you. Oh, I said 1 billion. Okay. That's not trolling. I'm being dead serious.

Brian AtlasOkay. Uh, that's uh that's your serious that's the minimum yearly income for your future husband. give or take.

Brian AtlasIt's interesting how people say they're not trolling when they actually are. Uh Andrew, what's your assessment here? Do you think she's a troll? Now we ask the chat. Hello.

Brian AtlasHang. Hang on a second, Brian. I'm sorry. I got something I'm dealing with. All right. Um Okay. A billion dollars and nothing

Brian Atlasless is what you wrote. The minimum yearly income to be your future husband. That'd be pretty sweet, wouldn't it?

Brian AtlasOkay. Is that your genuine answer or I mean, who knows if I get married? Do you want to get married? Maybe if the

Brian Atlasright guy comes along. If he's a billionaire. H. Um, I'm going to probably leave this one up to the chat. Chat, is this a

Andrew Wilsonkick? Um, there's already been too much trolling tonight. Um, this might this might have to be um

Alex AmoraWell, so that that was your good faith answer. Billion dollars a year. Yeah, that seems uh reasonable. Okay. I don't understand why I'm getting

Alex Amoraall the heat for the trolling. I'm a little bit lost. Like you asked me a question, I gave you an answer. I mean, in a perfect world, you should like You're strong. You're saying I'm like, like that's her preference. It's not

Alex AmoraSee, I like how you think. I like how you think better. 2 billion. Why not five billion? 5 billion a year. Yes. I mean, why really? Why stop there? Why not why not a trillion? I just think like it's not really fair to say that I'm trolling, right? Cuz then we're

Alex Amoragoing to go around later around the table. It's going to be like, "Rate yourself on a scale of 1 to 10." And if we say 10, like, "Oh, you're delusional." Well, you asked us a question and we're answering. So, I just

Andrew Wilsondon't think it's really fair that you're coming at me saying that I'm trolling when I'm giving you an answer. I'm being there in good faith. Well, I mean, that's fair. How about instead of that,

Andrew Wilsonyou just say, "I just don't believe you." Right? So, I just think that you're not telling the truth that your minimum requirement is a billion dollars. For instance, have you ever actually dated a billionaire?

Andrew WilsonI choose not to answer that question. Yeah. So then, so, so the answer is no. And so now we have evidence that there's good chance that you're probably not telling us the truth. If that's your

Brian Atlasminimum, if your history, for instance, is not dating billionaires, right? Sure. Yeah. Makes sense. I mean, and Andrew, I'd like you to weigh in on this. the

Brian Atlaswhole I choose not to answer that question. I mean, that's just totally bad faith. Yeah. What was the uh what was the question? I'm sorry. Well, you Andrew

Brian AtlasAndrew, you asked her. Well, here we can test this. Have you dated a billionaire or the men you've dated? Are they answer? That's like what? That's ridiculous. Like, all right.

Andrew WilsonBecause it would give evidence against the position she gave. Exactly. That's That's why it just seems kind of silly. Well, I've been single for over 3 years, so who's to say that? You've been celibate for over 3 years. Have I been celibate?

Brian AtlasYeah. Have you been celibate? No, I haven't been celibate. Okay. The men that you're sleeping with, are they billionaires? I choose not to answer that question. What? You've already admitted to sleeping with them. What does it matter if they're billionaires

Andrew Wilsonor not? Because that's none of your business. Okay. Well, that's fair. We'll just say out of all the men you've ever dated, even if one has been a billionaire, would you say the vast majority of them were not billionaire?

Alex AmoraAgain, this this question is so not something that I need to answer, we can just move on. Like you're saying that I'm you're carrying it on and then you're like, I'm going to question. I'm just curious if the majority of the

Andrew Wilsonmen that you have dated were billionaires. Even if you had dated a billionaire. No, majority were not. Oh, okay. Well, then that seems to give a counter evidence to your position that the minimum requirement that you would need

Andrew Wilsonfrom a guy would be a billion dollars a year. Not only does that obviously sound absurd, but u then evidence from your own mouth is basically confirming the absurdity. So, we're kind of left with the conclusion that you're just giving

Brian Atlasbad faith answers in order to derail and kind of be a pain in the ass. What was the actual question on the sheet? What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband? What

Brian Atlaswould I want? Want the minimum yearly income? What would I want? What What's with the attitude? What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband? Cuz how

Alex Amorais that trolling? What would I want? What would I want it to be?

Brian AtlasSo, I mean, there's some degree of like realist re realisticness, you know, to the question. And because billionaires aren't realistic in your world doesn't mean they're not realistic in my world. I mean, why not a trillionaire? Why

Alex Amorawouldn't you want it to be a trillion? Because I was being realistic. Oh, that is totally realistic. But you can't you can't ask me what I

Alex Amorawould want ideally and then tell me my answer is fake. Do you know what I mean? That's like not really that doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Yeah, sure. Uh, you know, I I'll even grant this, right? Do you do you agree with me that um that

Andrew Wilsonthere's inferences with questions? is like when somebody asks you a question, they might not be semantically 100% correct. But even if they're not semantically 100% correct, you can infer what the meaning of the question is. Like for instance, if every other woman

Andrew Wilsonat the table answered the question the way that it was intended, except you, wouldn't that also lend us more even more credibility that you're probably trolling? Well, I mean, every woman at the table is not me, so I can't really

Andrew Wilsoncompare myself to the other women, respectfully. Well, how do you make comparisons then? Like how would we ever make a comparison as to whether or not a person was delusional unless they were making a comparison with people who were not delusional? Well, you can call me

Andrew Wilsondelusional. That's that's okay. I'll take that. I didn't call you delusional. I asked you to I'm saying you can't I'm saying you can you can just call you could call me delusional. Yes. I mean I can do all sorts of things. I can punch

Andrew Wilsonmy monitor. I can knock my camera over. I can do all sorts of of things. But that really has nothing to do with my question, which is how is it that we would ascertain if you were delusional without comparing you to other people. We couldn't. Same thing with your

Andrew Wilsonanswer, right? We could compare how a regular person would infer the question and then based on your answer and then the attitude behind it, whether or not you're telling the truth or trolling or things like this. That seems reasonable to me. I mean, my answer is

Alex Amorasure. That that's my answer to your question. But I'm not comparing myself to other women at this table right now. You ask me a question about myself and I answer the question about myself. So,

Brian Atlasso just to be clear, by the way, this is yearly income. So, it's not that you just want to date a billionaire. You want somebody who makes a minimum yearly income of $1 billion and nothing less.

Brian AtlasNothing less. So, for example, you wouldn't date somebody who makes $750 million a year. Sorry, I must have missed the annual part. It literally says it in the question.

Alex AmoraSure. Then I I apologize. I missed that part of the question. So what what is your actual position on this then? I would date a billionaire. Okay. So they have to be a billionaire

Alex Amorathough. Don't have to. I said you asked what I want. $1 billion and nothing less, right? So

Brian Atlasthey have to be a billionaire. Sure.

Brian AtlasI mean, the chat pretty much wants you kicked. So, uh, I suppose I could give you one final chance. Are you going to participate in good faith? Yeah, I've been participating in good

Alex Amorafaith. I feel like I'm being singled out here to be honest with you. How would it be? Because you came at me saying that I was trolling before the show. I came in with good energy. It was quiet as [ __ ] in here. So, right, I'm trying to pick

Alex Amoraup the energy, crack some jokes. Everyone was a little tense. So that's all I was doing. So if you think that's me trolling, I apologize for bringing in good energy.

Brian AtlasThe thing is though is this. The fact that you refuse to answer the question of of all the men you've dated or slept with or been involved with previously, none of them are billionaires. I said

Alex Amoramajority were not billionaires. Right. That was my answer. I answered your question. So now you're just So when's the last time you were with a guy? I choose not to answer that. I mean, it

Brian Atlaspertains to the conversation, so Okay. Sure. And I still don't. But it would be it would provide I mean, you're refusing to answer it because it would provide

Brian Atlascounter evidence to your claim, your dubious claim here that you uh want the minimum yearly or well, I'll just change it. You want you will only date a billionaire and nothing less. But this is clearly not true if you're sleeping

Brian Atlaswith dating men who are not billionaires, especially in recent history. Sure, Brian. So, when's the last time you were romantically or sexually

Brian Atlasinvolved with a man? That I actually don't remember truthfully. That I'm not trolling. I don't remember. I'm not asking for a specific date and time. You can just say, "Oh, it was 3 months ago." It was probably a few months ago. Yeah. Weren't

Brian Atlasyou re Okay. Wasn't I recently What? Uh, let's see here. Um, Andrew, what do you think about this one from her? Uh, would you rather cross

Brian Atlaspaths? Would you rather cross paths with a man or a bear in the forest? To which your answer is a bear because I like animals. Because

Brian Atlasyou like animals. Okay, that's good faith. And then um and then you said no because you don't date even though there seems to be some evidence that you do. And then how

Brian Atlastall are you and what's the minimum height of a man you would date? What did I put there? I'm 5'6. Yeah. What's the minimum height of a man you would date? I don't think height really matters to be honest. Height height doesn't matter for me. I'm saying for for you. For me?

Brian AtlasYeah. So you would date a guy who's shorter than you? I've dated someone my height before. You've dated them. But is that your preference? I think I'm more of a personality person.

Alex AmoraYou're a personality person. I would date. Okay, I know where you're going with that. I would date. You're asking specifically about height. Height doesn't matter to me. How do you

Brian Atlasreconcile? Not well, being a personality person, but you refuse to date anybody besides a billionaire because you're asking me for height. Height preference.

Brian AtlasI know, but you also said you're a personality gal. So wouldn't this extend itself to somebody's income or financial standing? Sure to an extent. So how do

Alex Amorayou reconcile personal? I I only care about personality. Mhm. With you will only date a bill. I I see like you're putting words in my mouth. I never said I only date. Yeah. Sure. You said you're a

Brian Atlaspersonality gal. Personality is more important than like other things like height. Yeah. Okay. But not more than money. Not more than money. Okay. I see.

Andrew WilsonSo perhaps no reconciliation is needed then. Okay. And then finally here uh you personality to you is not more important

Alex Amorathan money. Is that how you just said? I just we're weighing things on a scale, right? Yeah. Yeah. So that was the first push yourself into frame. Yeah. Yeah. So

Andrew Wilsonpersonality to you less important than money. I just want to make sure we're clear on that. Yeah. It's secondary. How did you do on that dating show

Andrew Wilsonanyway? Great. Yeah. Did you win? There was no winner. No, there wasn't. Mm-m. Did you tell uh the person that you were

Andrew Wilsongoing to be dating that you cared more about his money than his personality? No, I didn't get that far. Oh. I mean, is that a legitimate answer you'd give on a dating show? Like if the

Andrew Wilsonguy asked you, "Do you care more about my personality or my money?" Would you be like, "Ah, your money." Yeah. Yeah. Okay. [Music]

SPEAKER_01Metro donated $200. You're a troll who does of You have zero respect from anyone. Why waste your time to come on a show? Is it just

SPEAKER_01to grift or are you really that thirsty for attention and to gotcha men? Would you like to answer that? Well, first, you're welcome for the donation.

Alex AmoraUm, I mean, I really did come here in good faith. I think you guys are thinking my personality is more trolly than like I actually like this is just me being me. So, I'm not coming on here

Alex Amorato be a troll. Um, I've been on here two times already and somehow, I don't know, today you came in with a different energy towards me. So, I think that's you problem more so um from the

Alex Amorabeginning. But I came here in good faith. I wouldn't travel all the way here. Um, if I wasn't coming here in good faith, that doesn't really make a lot of sense to me. Why? I don't have any preconceived notions. Libertarian

SPEAKER_01donated $200. Don't kick her. It's what she wants. The best option is to leave her there and ignore her for the rest of the show. That is an option. What's that? I mean,

Andrew Wilsonthat that is true. I don't have any preconceived notions. I haven't seen any of the episodes that you were on. and I don't recall engaging with you. So, but it does seem like a very bad faith answer to put the minimum down for what you'd expect accept from a man to be a

Alex Amorabillion dollars. That seems Well, see, again, you guys are using the wrong words, right? You're you're saying the like it has to be. You ask me what I want. Yeah. Why would you settle for

Andrew Wilsonless than what you want? You're asking ideally what I want. I gave you an ideal answer. So, you would So, if you if that's what you want, you wouldn't settle for less than you want. That seems like it would be a minimum,

Andrew Wilsonright? It' be like if I said I want my uh if somebody asked me what's the quality you want in your wife and I said for her to be faithful. I wouldn't settle for less than her being faithful,

Andrew Wilsonright? Would you if you say I want a man who makes a billion dollars, you you settle for less of what you want. Well, I feel like her being This isn't apples to oranges because her being faithful is a little bit out

Alex Amoraof your I mean apples to apples. Sorry, my bad. Thank you for calling me out on that. Um what you're saying though like that's out of your control if your wife is faithful. So

Alex Amorayeah, but why but so what it should it potentially out of your control? It's like it's what you want, right? But is that like not like going to necessarily happen or not? I don't really want to argue. Like I'm not really here to like

Andrew Wilsonargue. I was really here to just like be chill, but like Well, it's not much of an argument really. It's not like um it's not like we're doing blood sport debates here or

Andrew Wilsonanything. Yeah. Just kind of clear clearing up some bizarre semantics because it was a bizarre answer and it seemed kind of trollish. You can at least can you at least grant that it would seem to be very trollish if you

Andrew Wilsonsay I want a man who makes a billion dollars. That that seems uh just slightly absurd. And when you match it onto your personality, you don't seem like you're a complete idiot. So it

Alex Amoraseems perhaps contrived, right? I mean, it can seem that way to you. My genuine answer was that. That's I'll I'll leave it at that and then you guys can do what you want with that answer.

MitchieI think it's okay to have high standards, especially cuz you're beautiful and like, you know, you do o you have a lot of money. You're on Temptation Island. So, I think it's okay to have high standards. High high standards. Yeah.

MitchieWhat's the difference between high standards and unreasonable standards? Well, like I think there's an exception. like if this person has a really good personality and they don't make a billion dollars, like she might go for

Brian Atlashim, but it's not like she said she won't settle for less. Nothing less than a billionaire. So, and she said she values money over

Brian Atlaspersonality, right? Let me ask you a question. Would you rather date a guy who makes like a let's say $90,000 a year and he treats you amazingly or a guy who's a billionaire?

Brian AtlasAnd you got to pick one. A guy who's a billionaire but he's abusive. Which do you pick? Okay. Abu. That's a bit extreme. That's a loaded question. I would say you got if you have to pick one. Abusive is a sure. And you can choose to pick the guy who's not

Andrew Wilsonabusive. Which one do you pick? He treats you like [ __ ] How's that? How much do I see him? Because billionaires are very busy. You see Well, I mean, you see him a lot, right? Because um I would assume that

Andrew Wilsonyou would be some sort of trophy for him or he wouldn't marry you.

Alex AmoraThere's a lot of factors I think that would go into that question specifically for me to be able to answer that. Okay, give me some of those. 90,000 is pretty good.

Alex AmoraWhat's that? I said 90,000 is not bad for like a guy with that treats you well over an abusive person. I would say abusive though. Well, he did. So I Yeah,

Alex AmoraI know. I changed the parameter though. He just treats you like [ __ ] But right like that there's so many factors. What do you mean by treats you like [ __ ] Because right people people have different standards for relationship. He's not very nice to you

Andrew Wilsonand he doesn't really care that much about your opinions. Is this all the time or is this like most of the time? Doesn't care about my opinions? Most of the time he doesn't. I think I would still pick a billionaire. What does he

Andrew WilsonWhat does he need for what what opinions are you going to give a billionaire that he needs? Right. Yeah. You're so right. Yeah. What like what opinions? So that makes sense, right? Well, yeah. I mean, what opinion would I

Alex Amoragive a billionaire that he would care about? Nothing. He wouldn't care about my opinions. That made me kind of feel sad that you would say that even about yourself.

Alex AmoraYeah. Okay. Anyway, can you answer my question? No. The qu I I did answer your question already. Yeah. Why don't you repeat back my question so I know you even heard it. Your question was, would

Alex Amorayou pick the guy that was making $90,000 and treated you really well or the billionaire that doesn't treat you as well? Great. Can you give me the answer to that question? I said I would still

Andrew Wilsonpick the billionaire. You still pick a billionaire. Okay. So, I don't think you're trolling. I mean, maybe you're just a reprehensible person. That could be possible.

SPEAKER_01Okay. Yeah. Interesting how that works. Thank you. Uh, Earthworm Earthworm Tim donated $200. No billionaires for a cups. Please

Alex Amorakick her off. Uh, yeah. You I don't think that works though because he's against plastic surgery. So to say, you know, if I were to fix that problem, I think Brian would

Brian Atlasactually be very much against that. Would you agree? Yeah, I'm anti-plastic surgery. So, do you like AUPS?

Brian AtlasSure. checking. I uh yeah, Aubs, sure. I'm a I'm more of a um not really an ass guy, not really a

Brian Atlasboob guy, more of a labia guy. I only date women with giant um giant labia. So, yeah, that's kind of Would you spot someone with one in a crowd or do you

Brian Atlasjust like take some there's certain indicator decide like certain indicator must have big labia I've or do you think that's a little bit unrealistic? Look, I've noticed patterns. There's some patterns, okay?

Brian AtlasAnd you can [ __ ] tell. Can you name the patterns? I'm just curious. Top secret. That's the secret sauce. Cuz I can't I can't be giving it away and other dudes are going to steal my [ __ ] They're going to be like, "Oh, there's that girl who meets this like visible

Brian Atlascriteria. I'm a get cuz he's like also into big labia. So, I can't give away the secret sauce." But there are signs. You are the labia. Can I ask a question

Brian Atlasreally quick? Nope. Nope. You can't ask a question. But uh anyways, so each continuing on with the questionnaire, the kick is probably imminent, but we'll

Brian Atlassee. Uh so going around the table on this question, what would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband? And Andrew, the answers don't get any better. Go ahead. Um I

Mitchiewouldn't say it's like a deal breaker, but I would say like maybe about like a million. It doesn't have to be. It could be less. It's fine. Yeah, it sure. What about you? Yeah. I said the same thing, but it doesn't really it's not a

Brian Atlasdealbreaker for me either, but that's what I strive for. When you say you strive for in terms of your own earnings or like strive for in a man? A man.

Brian AtlasOkay. So, everyone else is good though. That's not unrealistic. It's pretty unrealistic. But you realize like the orders of magnitude difference between

Eve (Pre-Med)billionaire versus millionaire. So, yeah. What about you? Realistically, probably like 200,000.

Eve (Pre-Med)But 200,000. I wouldn't mind a millionaire. Call me. Sure. Okay. Um,

Haley (Below Deck)personally, it doesn't matter to me what somebody earns. I would choose happiness over being financially. Can I have you scoot your mic to the edge of the table and just leave it there? Yeah, sure. And this applies for everybody. Just leave

Haley (Below Deck)the mics where they are. Um, so I mean there's not like do you want to get married? Do you want to have kids? Yeah, one day probably get married, maybe have children. I'm not

Haley (Below Deck)really sure, but I feel like I'm financially stable enough by myself. I don't need someone to look after me like that. So I see. And I think happiness is so much more important. You could date

Haley (Below Deck)someone that is seriously rich, which I have done in the past, and that doesn't make them a good person. You know, they could be I every time it's personality. It's nothing to do with their bank

Haley (Below Deck)account. But that's me. That's my own Okay. opinion. Yeah. So, you would date a guy who like works at McDonald's or um I mean I wouldn't go that far. No. Um I wouldn't

Haley (Below Deck)say do you know what? Actually, yeah. If in this life I met someone and I really really loved them and they weren't there, then I guess yeah, that would be

Alanaokay. Okay. What about you? Um, I relate with what she said. Um, I

Alanathink it doesn't necessarily matter as long as they can support themselves and aren't asking me for money or like, you

Brian Atlasknow, um, and that they're a loving person. I don't know. But, okay. You did like when and this is for like your future husband, right? So, I know some

Brian Atlasof you are young. you guys are like in college or whatever, you're probably not particularly preoccupied with like, oh, is this guy making a hundred fig like or $100,000 for most people in college? Probably not like top of the priority

Brian Atlaslist. You're probably more like, are they attractive? Do I get along with them? Do they have a good personality? Do I like them? These sorts of things, right? But when you start getting a bit older and you're like, okay, well, I want to have kids and a family and

Brian Atlashere's what my do I want to stay home while I'm pregnant. There's going to be certain considerations when it comes to, oh, do you want to stay in Southern California or, you know, wherever you're from? Do you want to have a certain

Brian Atlaslifestyle? Do you want to go on vacations? Your husband's income is probably going to have uh or whatever long-term boyfriend is going to have some impact. Um, so if we fast forward, if we fast

Brian Atlasforward like you and you to like when you guys are 28, 29, maybe you're like looking to, okay, I want to like have kids, start a family. Do you have a sense of like, okay, well, I don't want to date the guy who's working like a

Brian Atlaspart-time job at McDonald's, making $20 an hour, probably want to date a guy who's making like x amount of money. Is there anything that comes to mind for you on that? I think the best way I would say it is like they have to have

Eve (Pre-Med)this like drive to do good for themselves, you know, like I can agree with that, you know, like um yeah, that drive is attractive. Like I plan on doing good for myself, I'm good on my

Eve (Pre-Med)own. Sure. If someone comes along and I really like them and they're driven and they like have a good career and they like know what their life wants to look like or they're living the life that they want to live, then like I love that. You know, I don't know if I would

Eve (Pre-Med)date someone at McDonald's just because they could strive for more. But if they're working at McDonald's saving and like there's a plan, then that's different. Yeah. What about What about you? I agree. Does that change? I very

Destiny (Vet)much agree with that. Okay. What about you? I'd say any income's better than nothing. Any income is better than nothing. So, they make $1,000 a month.

Destiny (Vet)That would be satisfactory to you. Um, yeah. Okay. Do you want kids? Um, in the future? Yeah, I do. Do you want to get married? Um, maybe. Do you want to And

Brian Atlasyou're in You live in SoCal. Mhm. Do you want to like How many kids do you want? Um, I'd say like max three. Max three. Okay. So, maybe two to three. And do you want to remain in Southern California?

Brian AtlasUm, probably not. I definitely want to move. Do you know where? Um, no, not yet. Would it be a low cost of living or high cost of living area? Uh, probably low cost of living. Low cost of living.

Brian AtlasOkay. Uh when you do have kids, would you like to take time off from work when you're pregnant and then like afterwards to raise the kids?

Brian AtlasUm yeah, probably. Okay. Uh and then what are you wanting you're like a vette? You said uh yes I am. Okay. And are you planning to go to vet school?

Destiny (Vet)Like do you or are you just planning to like remain uh a vette? Um, I'm probably going to go first schooling, but I'm not too sure if I really want to stay in uh vet the vet industry. Okay. Do you have

Brian Atlasa sense? I know you're young. You're you said 18, right? Yes. So, like, you know, you have time to figure things out, but uh do you have a sense of kind of like a

Brian Atlaspotential career uh trajectory? Um, no, not yet. Okay. Do you anticipate uh would you like to be the bread winner in the relationship?

Brian AtlasUm, maybe. Okay. So, you're making the majority of the money. Okay. Um, maybe, maybe not. Although, you want to have kids and take time off for pregnancy and

Brian Atlasuh Okay. Why wouldn't there just be certain economic realities like, okay, you want to have two to three kids, depends on where you live, you want a certain lifestyle, you want to take time off for the pregnancy, you want to take

Brian Atlastime off from work to, you know, when the they're babies or whatever. Uh, how do you intend to like pay rent and other expenses? Um, I'm going to give it time

Destiny (Vet)before having like any kids so that way I'm able to save my money just in case like if the relationship doesn't work out and he decides to leave, I'll be able to provide for the kid. Um, okay.

Brian AtlasBut I mean, what do you think it would be a consideration though when you're dating a guy and you're like, "Okay, this is the guy I want to like marry and have kids with that." But like, oo, we could this could be like a financially

Brian Atlasstraining situation if he's kind of sitting at home playing video games all day and not working or working like a part-time minimum wage job. Yeah. Well, then we'll have a talk

Destiny (Vet)about that one. What What would the talk entail? Um, probably to maybe work a little more and maybe find a different job if that's not working out. Okay.

Brian AtlasWhat if he doesn't? Then probably dump him. probably dump him. Okay. So, there would be some degree of uh participation in the workforce that you would deem uh

Brian Atlasdesirable or acceptable when it comes to a guy you're dating. Yeah. Okay. All right. We won't linger too long. Uh Felicity, do you want to answer this? I guess um 150,000. 150,000. Okay. So, we

Brian Atlasgot a billion here. A million dollars a year. A million dollars a year. That's your guys' minimum. And then you said 200,000. Those are pretty interesting. I said 100 or 200. Oh, okay. Well, here in

Brian Atlasthe notes you said 200,000. I maybe you changed it, but um a million a year. A million a year. $200,000 a year. Andrew, do you have any objections to uh these

Andrew Wilsonnumbers? Uh well, every one of the numbers is it's fairly unrealistic. So, if you if you just break it down, even if you're talking about millionaires, there are actually a significant amount

Andrew Wilsonof millionaires in the United States, right? is around as of 2023. This is just cursory, right? But somewhere around 20 plus million millionaires. Uh but you have to remember that most of

Andrew Wilsonthose are based around retirement accounts like their Roth IRA. They paid into it their whole life. This type of thing. So they're near retirement age. So they have a little bit of cash uh tied up in nest eggs, right? That's

Andrew Wilsontheir equity. But people who have like actual in your age group dating market who have millions of dollars which is liquid it's extremely rare. So it's like

Andrew Wilsonthat's that's unrealistic, right? It's totally unrealistic. That's one. Uh but the second is even when you get into the hundreds of thousands of dollars, right?

Andrew WilsonIt's like uh the the pool of men who's available again in that age bracket who makes $200,000 plus dollars per year very very small. that Brian actually has a calculator. We can calculate this out.

Andrew WilsonYou can see the percentage of men who would be available in a pool who were over six foot in your age bracket who made the the amount of money that you wanted. And I guarantee you it'll be a decimal point. It won't even be 1%.

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