Andrew Wilson! DRAMA! Bratty Gamer Girl?! E-GIRLS! Born Again VlRGlN?! | Dating Talk #150

Date: 2024-04-08

Duration: 6h 25m

Guests

Brian Atlas

PPeyton (DT150)>

VVesper (DT150)>

CCrystal (DT150)>

AAlicia (DT150)>

NNatalia (DT150)>

BBritney Delamora >

SSunny (DT150)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Background Voice(audience)

SPEAKER_01TTS/Background Voice(audience)

SPEAKER_02Britney Delamora(guest)

SPEAKER_03Sunny(guest)

SPEAKER_04Vesper(guest)

SPEAKER_05Natalia(guest)

SPEAKER_06Peyton(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08TTS Donation Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_10Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_12Crystal(guest)

SPEAKER_14Alicia(guest)

Key Moments

IntroBrian introduces the panel; guests include stripper Vesper (24, Dallas), medical student Peyton (19, Rancho Cucamonga), Crystal (29, LA stripper), Alicia/Megan (34, Air Force vet / boxer / born-again Christian), Natalia (almost 19, Seattle), Britney Delamora (37, ministry founder / former porn actress), Sunny (34, Canadian, Naked and Afraid, 12 weeks pregnant), and returning guest Andrew Wilson (host of The Crucible).

“"without further Ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name"”

QuoteBritney Delamora reveals she was in the adult film industry for 7 years and has been out for 12 years; she now runs a ministry helping porn-addicted people and ex-industry workers.

“"I was in the adult film industry for seven years of my life... I've been out for 12 years"”

QuoteSunny announces she appeared on Naked and Afraid (Discovery Channel), filmed in the Colombian jungle for 21 days, as one of only 6 Canadians to complete the challenge. Episode aired March 17, 2024.

“"I am a survivalist for Discovery Channel known as Naked and Afraid so only six Canadians have ever completed that challenge"”

QuoteAndrew Wilson introduces himself as host of The Crucible, described as fastest-growing debate channel on the internet; returns to Whatever Podcast.

“"my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible fastest growing debate channel"”

ControversyAndrew Wilson challenges the concept of born-again virginity as "nonsensical false doctrine," arguing that virginity is physically gone and cannot be spiritually restored. Extended debate with Alicia and Britney Delamora over purity vs. virginity, and whether Christianity is a religion or a relationship.

“"born again virgin... that doesn't make sense to me... your virginity was not put back into your body"”

ControversyBritney Delamora clarifies the born-again virgin concept: purity (a heart condition) is restorable by God; physical virginity is not. Calls it "a second chance at doing things right."

“"virginity is not yeah what... God can give you back virginity is not"”

QuoteBritney Delamora reveals she was baptized by her pimp (who claimed to be Christian) while still in the porn industry, and then felt the Holy Spirit tell her to leave her pimp and call her mother.

“"your pimp took you to church to baptize out the demons is that right"”

OtherSunny announces she is 12 weeks pregnant with her second child; married in fall 2023; gender reveal planned at week 20.

“"I'm currently pregnant with another one currently pregnant super excited... 12 weeks"”

ControversyAndrew Wilson opens debate on female pastors, citing Paul's epistles; challenges Britney Delamora on whether women should have pastoral authority over men. Brian cuts off the extended theological argument to move on.

“"where is the idea that women can be ordained as female pastors come from"”

ControversyAndrew Wilson challenges Alicia on keeping provocative photos on Instagram while claiming born-again Christianity. Asks repeatedly what stops her from deleting them. Alicia says she was re-baptized only 3 weeks prior and it is a process. Andrew references Satan wanting the photos up. Alicia calls Andrew a Pharisee.

“"what is actually stopping you if you believe that it's wrong... from right this second deleting them"”

ControversyAndrew Wilson argues parents should disown adult children for doing OnlyFans or porn. Britney strongly disagrees: many women in sex work got there due to family dysfunction; removal of love is counterproductive. Panel mostly disagrees with Andrew.

“"parents should disown their adult children for doing only fans or porn which you disagree with"”

OtherDating profile review segment: Natalia's Bumble profile (musical reference flagged by panel; Hennessy comment flagged by chat). Peyton's profile (no kids, atheist, liberal, weed). Chat votes mostly no-swipe on Natalia. Discussion of who is on birth control.

“"we're going to do the dating profile review segment"”

OtherSelf-ratings round: Brian reads viewer request. Alicia: 9-10 (Jesus's eyes). Peyton: 6. Crystal: 7. Britney: 7 (was 10 at 27). Sunny: 5 to 5.5. Andrew Wilson: 20-25-30 (joking). Andrew criticizes Britney's self-rating as delusional; praises Sunny's honesty.

“"Stiffler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to 10 starting with you"”

ControversyAndrew Wilson criticizes Britney Delamora's self-rating of 7-8 as delusional, calling it an example of cognitive dissonance he observes all night. Britney responds that she is a 10 to her husband and she is not on the market. Sunny diplomatically avoids directly calling others delusional.

“"there's no fucking universe in which you are an eight"”

QuoteBrian shares he was cheated out of Perdition's Blade in Molten Core (WoW classic) by Loot Council; nearly quit the guild on the spot.

“"I was in a guild I got screwed over on perdition's blade... this other Rogue already had two purple daggers"”

OtherBody count round: Alicia = 0, Peyton = 10, Vesper = 20, Crystal = around 12, Natalia = declined, Britney = ~200+ scenes. Andrew Wilson presses unnamed guests on accuracy of "a lot." Britney clarifies she had a yes-list of ~8 regular men for most of career.

“"what's your body count starting with you"”

ControversyBowing discussion: Brian asks if women would bow to their man. Most female guests decline. Andrew and Brian argue hypocrisy: women refuse a bow but accept degrading sexual acts. Britney would bow lovingly to husband (not in worship). Sunny references Filipino mano po cultural bow.

“"would you bow if you were dating a guy and he's like I'd really appreciate a bow"”

OtherEnd of show: Brian raids WowGrandma78 (82yo WoW retail streamer) on Twitch; secondary Twitch raid to FrostAdamus. Andrew Wilson redirects YouTube viewers to The Crucible channel.

“"we are going to do a twitch raid... WowGrandma78 she's 82 she plays World of Warcraft"”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions

Guests introduce name, age, location, occupation. Notable: Britney Delamora reveals ministry background and former porn career. Sunny announces 12-week pregnancy on show. Andrew Wilson returns as guest debater. Alicia reveals Air Force background, celebrity boxing (Blac Chyna fight), and born-again Christianity.

Relationship status round

Brian goes around table for relationship status and relationship history. Vesper: engaged, fiance 17 years older (age 41). Alicia: celibate since March 2022, dating Jesus. Britney: married 8 years / together 10. Sunny: married fall 2023; 12 weeks pregnant. Extended debate on born-again virginity between Andrew Wilson, Alicia, and Britney. Andrew calls the concept "nonsensical false doctrine." Britney clarifies purity vs virginity.

Born-again virginity debate

Andrew Wilson challenges Alicia and Britney on the concept of born-again virginity. Andrew: virginity is physically gone and cannot be spiritually restored. Alicia: it is spiritual purity, not physical; God restores what was taken. Britney: clarifies purity (a heart condition) is restorable; virginity (physical) is not. Debate extends into whether Christianity is a religion or a relationship, denominational accountability, and how to adjudicate competing Holy Spirit claims.

Female pastors debate

Andrew Wilson asks where the idea of female pastors comes from; cites Pauline epistles. Britney: was ordained but does not call herself pastor; leads connect groups for women. Believes women can pastor over women under male authority. Andrew: women should not have ecclesiastical authority over men per scripture. Debate includes women evangelists (woman at the well, Mary Magdalene) vs. pastoral role. Britney references illiteracy in early church context for Pauline "women be silent" passages.

Hawaii first class / economy scenario

Brian poses scenario: boyfriend pays for Hawaii trip but takes first class while putting girlfriend in economy. Most guests find it problematic unless he has a legitimate reason (back pain, affordability). All say they would be fine if both were in economy together. Andrew Wilson: if he can pay for the whole trip, sitting apart in first class is reasonable. Vesper: bothered; would be "stressed out" reading it as a sign he might abandon her. Natalia: wants to meet in the middle (comfort class). Sunny: totally fine if legitimate reason (back pain); grateful for the trip overall.

Christianity debate: religion vs. relationship / Instagram photos

Andrew Wilson challenges Alicia on having provocative photos on Instagram while claiming Christian faith. Andrew: asks what is stopping her from deleting photos she admits are inappropriate. Alicia: recently re-baptized (3 weeks ago); it is a process; God convicts over time. Britney: agrees it is a process; she transitioned out over years. Andrew accuses Alicia of having no good excuse for delay. Andrew references the Paradox of Declining Female Happiness — women everywhere are miserable due to exported Western feminist ideology. Alicia calls Andrew a Pharisee.

Would you date a feminist / feminist definition

Brian asks who would date a man who does not identify as a feminist. Most say yes they would date a non-feminist man. Alicia: man should be masculine; society has pushed women into masculine roles due to emotional damage. Britney: if husband were a feminist they would not be married. Brief debate on what feminism means. Natalia: would be bothered by a man who is grossed out by feminism in front of her friends. Crystal: does not think identifying as feminist is necessary. Vesper: matching values matters; does not need a feminist partner.

Vesper Instagram / Twitter / OnlyFans review

Brian reads Vesper's social media bio: luxury house pet, bratty gamer girl, University Art ho, court jester. Discusses tweets: men deserve someone addicted to sex with them; obsessed with fat men (not a feeder); orange peel theory; "charge your man cash every time he disrespects you." Andrew asks about video game skill; Vesper says she is moderate, plays story/building games. Discussed BFA in Studio Arts (painting, ceramics).

Disowning children for sex work

Andrew Wilson says parents should disown adult children doing OnlyFans or porn. Panel debates. Peyton: understands disowning if it harms family reputation (medical field parents). Alicia: disagrees; her mother kept contact during addiction and kept her alive. Britney: strongly disagrees; women in sex work need family love most. Sunny: supports tough love but not disowning; parents should be honest. Vesper: nuanced; not all families are close; not automatic shame. Andrew: argues it is a legitimate response to protect family honor.

Dating profile review segment

Brian and panel review dating app profiles (Bumble) for Natalia and Peyton. Natalia profile: likes acting like a musical (panel warns to remove this); can finish a bottle of Hennessy (chat reacts negatively). Chat votes mostly swipe no on Natalia. Peyton profile: 5'6", no workouts, Pisces, does not want children, atheist, liberal, smokes weed socially. Discussion of whether Peyton has accidental celibacy. Brian asks who is on birth control (IUD, implant, hormonal). Sunny: pregnant (perfect birth control). Natalia: not on anything.

Peyton standards and requirements discussion

Brian probes Peyton on why she is single with high standards. Peyton: needs to be star-struck; is very picky. Standards: 6+ feet, goes to gym, muscular not bodybuilder, celebrity crush type Vinnie Hacker. Has been involuntarily celibate for over a year despite going out weekly (Santa Barbara). Andrew Wilson: women dating up are often passed over by men they want. Discussion of Peyton's picky nature vs. her Bumble inactivity.

Self-ratings round (1-10 looks)

Brian reads viewer request to rate looks 1-10. Peyton: maybe 6. Alicia: 9 (then says 10 in Jesus's eyes). Crystal: 7. Britney: 7 (at 37 after 2 kids; was 10 at 27). Sunny: 5 to 5.5 (honest; scoliosis affects posture). Andrew Wilson: 20-25-30 (joking delusional answer); Andrew gives Sunny a solid 6. Andrew criticizes Britney's 7-8 as delusional by objective standards. Extended debate on objective vs. subjective beauty standards.

Women's happiness and feminism / Western ideology

Andrew Wilson presents Paradox of Declining Female Happiness research (Rachel Wilson Substack). Claims women are universally less happy than men across cultures and countries. Attributes this to feminist and Western ideology export causing women to forget "their place." Britney: has had 12 consecutive years of joy since becoming a Christian; attributes unhappy Christian women to insufficient daily practice (prayer, Bible). Alicia: happiness comes from Jesus regardless of external circumstances. Panel mostly agrees feminism has negative effects on female happiness.

WoW streamers dating discussion

Brian shows profiles of WoW streamers xQc, Asmongold, and Pokelawls. Asks if guests would date them. Most say no despite xQc's $100M deal. Peyton: would not date xQc (reminds her of Pete Davidson). Crystal: loot council (all about the money). Vesper: says she would be a feeder for them (joking). Brian laments that these millionaire gamers can't attract the panel.

Body count round

Brian asks body counts. Alicia/Megan: 0 (zero; celibate; did not do scenes with men on OnlyFans; not completely nude). Peyton: "two hands" (10). Vesper (implied via "Asia" reference): 20. Crystal: around 12. Natalia: no comment (declined, was called out by Andrew Wilson and Brian). Britney Delamora: approximately 200+ scenes; yes-list of ~8 regular male partners for most of career. Sunny: 2 hands (ambiguous; either ~10 or two partners). Andrew Wilson asks if "a lot" would be accurate for certain unnamed guests; pushes for honesty.

Bowing debate

Brian and Andrew ask if women would bow to their partner. Brian: just wants a bow; compares it to engagement ring tradition. Andrew: raises the point that women refuse simple acts of deference but accept degrading sexual acts. Britney: would bow in loving context to husband; not in worship context. Alicia: would bow if submissive but only to husband. Vesper: maybe if he bows back; would not if only she had to. Peyton: refuses; Natalia: stresses out trying to analyze gesture. Andrew: suggests curtsy as alternative. Sunny: references Filipino mano po (placing elder hand to forehead) as cultural bow equivalent. Brian references Exodus 20:5 (do not bow to idols) in the debate.

WoW streamer raid and closing

Brian raids WowGrandma78 (82-year-old WoW retail streamer) on Twitch; tells chat to be nice and tell her to come on the show. Secondary raid to FrostAdamus (also WoW player). Andrew Wilson redirects YouTube viewers to The Crucible channel. Brian discusses WoW guild loot systems with panel (Loot Council, DKP, Soft Reserve, etc.); shares personal story of being cheated on Perdition's Blade in Molten Core by Loot Council. Final bowing discussion: Andrew asks if women would bow to their man. Most decline (except Britney saying she would bow in love to husband). Brian compares refusing a bow to allowing more degrading sexual acts.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasit's too I don't think it's conflicting at all for him I don't think the statement he made and the fact that he married a woman who was 30 out of the pool yeah I don't think those are conflicting things okay yeah for instance somebody's crie might be

Aliciadifferent for somebody else maybe somebody likes older women you know so it's different and like for me on in my 20s I was on drugs my face was crazy like I wasn't in my Prime so I think it's different for every person I think

Brian Atlaswe got to stop stereotyping I get his point what his point is is stop focusing on work and then you're going to miss out on family let me ask you a question though you said in your 20s you weren't in your Prime but let's assume that you

Brian Atlashad not done all the drug use and I don't know the partying and uh you know being involved in she said she wasn't in her prime in her 20s because well she's

Brian Atlassaying compared to now my I'm living a healthier life I'm not doing drugs but let's assume that in your 20s you you there wasn't the drug use there wasn't

Brian Atlasany of that stuff just comparing yourself at 25 versus your 34 so let's say 24 verus 34 would you agree that you were more you would have been more

Aliciaphysically attractive then than you are now no because and I didn't start drugging and all that until I got out the military which was I was 27 years old it's just hyp I'm saying for me when

AliciaI grew in Christ that was when my Prime was I feel like my soul is matters physical appearance physical appearance physical appearance that's well I think I my style got better I know what to wear like for me I think it's hold on

Brian Atlaslet me let me clarify here this is a question we often ask so the the way we typically will ask this question is it's going to be related to the rating yourself question all else being equal do you think and typically the way ask

Background Voicedo you think you'll be more physically attractive in 10 or 20 years time less obviously less yeah but so reason be L physically attractive now than you were

Brian Atlasin your 20s but okay so let's so the way I can just ask this question you're 34 now all else if all else being equal do you think you're more physically

Aliciaattractive at 24 than you are now at 34 my muscles matured I look better Muses honly wait what do you mean your muscles the older you get like I was a bodybuilder so my muscles weren't as as

Brian Atlasdeveloped as they are now so when it comes to body like I can if we stood up my all else all else being equal oh so that means like we you can't do this

Aliciascenario where while 24 hours obese yeah 24 I was obese 34 I'm a fitness I'm a super fit generally speaking yes of course like the older you get life

Andrew Wilsonhappens gravity all those things gravity also you're not as fertile as you were in your 20s right yeah but you only need one egg to get you only need what now one egg need

Andrew Wilsonone egg yeah no I I understand but uh you it stands to reason that women who get married in their 30s and especially in their mid-30s likely going to have

Brian Atlasless children than if they get married in their 20s right wait uh going going around the table reaction to the CK video did you uh give an answer no I haven't um I understand I think if a

Nataliawoman wants to go to school Nick could you close the door to If a woman wants to go to school to get like a better job in like corporate world whatever um it's kind of hard I don't think

Nataliathey're all the same so if like some people are complaining about not finding anyone when they're 30 like I don't think everyone's complaining does that make

Crystalsense sort of I guess okay just go for the older guy don't uh necessar dis agree with him when I don't necessarily disagree with

Crystalhim with what he's saying because it's kind of true but I mean it just sucks it sucks okay sure yeah sure if we already did okay

Nataliawell then yeah I don't necessarily agree but like in you know your situation where you were wait you don't necessar what do you mean you don't NE because like okay in her situation right she she her situation yes yours um I mean you

Nataliaknow you were taking drugs and you just weren't in the right state of mind so like maybe like she looks a lot better now than she did like when she was in her 20s you know what I'm saying CU start drugging until you were 27 so I

Brian Atlasmean like but even my soul okay well Charlie Kirk said women in their 30s as compared to women in their early 20s so even using her example not even using all else being equal mhm she wasn't

Brian Atlasdrugging in her early 20s well then yeah I think you know the dating pool's a lot better in your 20s and 30s then it's not even necessary necessarily the da so he's talking are so the question sort of is are women in their Prime in their 20s

Aliciaas compared to their 30s yeah I agree women in their Prime 20s all right yeah I'd agree yep I agree my DMs are flooded the DMS are flooded yes I don't respond but I'm do

Brian Atlasyou consider yourself traditional yes yeah yeah why it's CU all next pull up the Instagram pull up the Instagram we're going to do the

AliciaInstagram deep Di God has been slowly con um you know convicting me about things but I had like a thousand pictures on there and now I went down to like remove some so slowly it's been

Andrew Wilsonworking we're going to call it this I don't understand and disclaimer I came from Miami soit wait hang just how long do you think it's going to take God to convict you to get rid of the rest of them that's between me and God what do

Andrew Wilsonyou mean to get rid of the rest of my pict like if you if you if you had to guess based on the current amount the future amount of pictures that you will take off would we say that within a

Aliciayear that you'll have all is the one that's going to look at you and say you can't wear this you can't wear that and I think they're the ones that but I think it God works on you slowly like if you've been accustomed to something for

Aliciaso many years you've been showing yourself for this many years it does take time and especially coming from Miami like the stuff I wore in Miami I didn't think it was bad and then I come to Nashville okay show you're ready

Brian Atlaswe're doing a segment called traditional or not traditional brought to you by Andrew Wilson and Associates okay go

Brian Atlasahead pull it up Nick all right Alysia Magan Alicia Alicia sorry okay so scrolling down we're going to see we're going to do in a a little slower a little slower for us so traditional or

Brian Atlasnot traditional are you conservative too you conservative mhm okay traditional not traditional is cheat you can pull up the chat too pull up the chat for us just

Brian Atlaspause it there for a sec traditional not traditional traditional not tradition

Brian Atlashuh that's fine traditional you okay over there scroll down scroll down quiet uh traditional the a lot of chat

Brian Atlasis saying not traditional not traditional there's a Pepe with a cross not tradition oh what not traditional what is your um

Andrew Wilsonwhat what if you had to point at the five newest photos that you had which what are the five newest booty Pi top bikini pick booty pick I got to take

Brian Atlasthat one off booby pick booby bent over booby pck it's a video is that are you on a lawn mower I don't

Brian Atlasknow what that is at the beach pick boxing stand booty pick wait hold on this second here oh look at Andrew here he's he can't believe his eyes he can't

Background/Production Voicebelieve his eyes to the pure all things are pure when will God convict you to get rid of the rest of these P when is that going to happen I know it's a process right but can we start with a process of like you know you're right

Andrew Wilsonwhat is what is actually stopping you I I just want to know if you if you know it's wrong what is actually stopping you from removing them right this

Andrew Wilsonsecond um I listen to God I don't listen to other people so do you think God wants you to have those pictures on your Instagram uh I didn't honestly

Aliciait's if you have a dirty mind doesn't matter what you look at I've seen girls who are completely covered up I've worn dresses that were completely covered up and still had men look at me if a those aren't pictures of you and dresses

Sunnycompletely covered up those are pictures of you basically can I ask you a question sure what before we even saw it your immediate reaction was don't judge because the clothing in Miami is

Aliciadifferent so lot of those pictures I just moved I know you looked like that there could been Hawaii there so I just got delivered I had sexual generational demons everything so generational yeah

Sunnyand you can see it a lot in these girls and pictures there's so much witchcraft New Age stuff witchcraft yeah so I Dam maybe just the photos that in your mind you were like hey guys like hold on last

Sunnyphot I don't have a problem with I have question I would archive those ones and that way next time somebody's like let's see your social like yeah here say what you want to say but there was something you already knew there was something

Andrew Wilsonwhich is why you gave everybody a disclaimer so there's Andre was excited about wait so Andrew you are the oh I see you're making an inference there

Andrew Wilsonit's very clever and um very Christlike right so but let's bu let's back up real quick uh CU I would like to know the answer to this question right what is

Andrew Wilsonactually stopping you if you believe that it's wrong to have photos like that on your Instagram from right this second deleting them I could do it if you want me to do it I can do it there's no

Aliciaproblem doing that but I listen to God for me I saw those photos people have seen my transition and that's been my testimony there are a couple I need to take out but the pictures I have let me just ask you with the followup do you

Andrew Wilsonthink God wants you to have those pictures on your Instagram not all I'm not all of them are bad especially my I know the ones that are though of course I why haven't you deleted them yeah I

Aliciahaven't for to be honest I haven't looked through my photos in a while and I just did a revamp on them so I don't go to my Instagram and look at everything every you know look at everything so all the time you could you

Andrew Wilsonsee it from an outsider's perspective like I don't know you at all right and I want to give you every benefit of the doubt and I hope on your journey through Christianity that we see you in an Orthodox Church one day I do but you can

Andrew Wilsonsee where it would be that people would have doubts about you and people like Nala and your convictions when you say I only listen to God and then when I ask well do you think God would want this and you say no and I ask well why haven't you deleted it then you really

Aliciadon't have a good answer God will take me through that process when it's time like that's that's really what it is it's everybody's relationship is personal it's very different if he

Aliciastripped us us of everything we ever had we'd go in like shock it's like a slow transformation God is he cold turkey that [ __ ] like donated

TTS Donation Reader$200 she has troubl understanding what God wants from her with all the different Tes he speaks to her in t Tes Tong Tong

Andrew Wilsontongues T yeah well listen I get I get that it's a process but I I just want to let you know that part of the process could be hitting the delete button that

Aliciaseems like a pretty easy process right yeah of course like I said I just newly gave my faith I literally just got baptized maybe three weeks ago

Aliciare-baptized so it is a process I have gotten rid of a lot but it's between me and God and that's what's so beautiful it's a relationship not to be condemned by other people when you're like a Pharisees you know what they told Jesus you're wrong for this you're wrong for

Andrew Wilsonthat the Pharisees always had something to say but it's that relationship and I think I feel like you are Pharisee can you give me the uh you feel like I'm a Pharisee well then just to kind of

Andrew Wilsonrejoin back against your accusation of me being a Pharisee can you give me the parable of the prostitute who won't delete her prostitution photos from her

Britney DelamoraInstagram please I'm all ears I I I think it's just honestly a process like when I no no no I'd like

Brian Atlasher to answer can you give me that Parable real quick Jesus loves you yeah I it's when I came to church I had what's your question what's your

Vesperquestion so you just deleted your only fans in January mhm do you believe that just based on only your pictures and your Instagram that people would believe that you're Christian or that that they

Aliciawould infer that oh definitely I mean I think that I talk about it I'm very open about it and I think that's how God wants us to be he doesn't want us to be shamed all that condemning shame all that stuff comes from the devil at the end of the day like he can use all

Aliciathings for good and that's what's beautiful about about him and he loves us so much and it's like when you have God in your life you're not selfish anymore you think about others like it's a whole perspective change you start

Alicialoving others differently like I grew up very religious it was like condemning there was none of that like Jesus never came to people like that he came to them with love and peace people wanted to change because they saw something

Andrew Wilsondifferent in him so oh gotcha so so do you think then if this is the case should you condemn the devil condemn the devil what do you mean yeah should you should you give

Andrew Wilsoncondemnation towards Satan I mean he he's the reason for a lot of things that go on why not I mean but it's not going to change Satan to be who he is so if that's true if you would condemn Satan do you think it would be

Andrew WilsonGod or Satan who would prefer that those pictures were up on your Instagram Satan is not the one that we need to condemn what do you mean what wait what you don't need to condemn Satan no but I

Andrew Wilsonmean I don't understand sorry I don't understand your question do if we should condemn Satan right you you would agree that we should do that right Satan bad right yeah and we have with the authority of Jesus would you say that

AliciaGod or Satan would prefer that you had those pictures up on Instagram well probably if they're not appropriate most likely Satan man so how would be the best way to condemn Satan

Brian Atlasthen got you [ __ ] I have another question so hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on okay I do want to move things on a little bit okay

Brian Atlasone question kind of related to the photos and [ __ ] um seems evident from you know your uh Instagram here uh I I I

Brian Atlasdon't know if there's a Biblical theological ecclesiastical take on this um I do notice that you have uh plastic

Brian Atlassurgery breast implant mhm I don't know if there's like any BBL no natural dude come on bro stop the C you're full of [ __ ] bro my life maybe I look do you

Brian Atlashave hold on hold on hold on okay so maybe see people like to dance around when I ask this so you've not had any procedure for the butto region no you can look at my look at my old stuff

Aliciasince I was see my legs I work out a lot F why do people lie about the [ __ ] you can see my legs I've always been thick since I was a young kid and I used to hate it

Brian AtlasI used to I'm sorry my my dude there's something going on with with the cheeks that's your something going on you agree no not in the way that you mean what what do you mean what what

Brian Atlasmean that she has a great butt that she looks good that's what I meant I didn't mean it in the way that you mean it okay you you're saying there's there's no like I don't know what the specific different surgeries are no fat transfer

Brian Atlasno injections you're saying nothing BR you cap you're [ __ ] Capa right now dog okay you capping bro okay there's no come on fess up be honest have you had

Brian Atlaslipo in other areas I had lipo on my back but my boobs which is the dumbest thing ever this doctor anyways not the best story mess I bro you almost I almost want to pull this Instagram back

Vesperup so I could like look at some photos and be like that's a I don't know if it's a BBL that's totally possible she could totally build that you said you work out right H dude I've I feel like I can spot

Aliciaa fake booty I think it's fake booty should we ask the chat2 huh I said the chat's going to say that it's fake they love saying that mm

Brian Atlascuz they're all good girls have boties TR I'm trying to find the so they're like oh it's fake I work with lots of girls who have bbls I believe you bro bro come

Brian Atlason hold on dude hold on let's see it I think it's fake dude I'm sorry why are you lying why are you I'm not lying I'm really I'm not lying I need there's the one where you

Brian Atlaswere like sparring up against black China dude come on bro I'm sorry but you know what I mean wait hold on let me see is it

Brian Atlasfake I don't know dude okay but you you do at least admit you have breast implants yes so like what's God's position what's the

Aliciaecclesiastical theological I mean I don't think we're supposed to change our body I got that my boobs done in addition to like you taking some of these Instagram photos off would you take the fake titties out um if it's not

Aliciagoing to hurt my health honestly but right now I'm going to keep them in but um I that was something I did in the past so it's not like God takes you

Aliciawhere you are and he forgives you you don't need to go changing anything to to be accepted by God so it's not conditional yeah so I don't feel like I need to take my boobs out especially

Aliciagoing underneath another surgery which might be more harmful so it just depends some people are called to do it some people aren't um no

Alicialipo and just in my back no stomach no my stomachs you had it on your back I'm thck right now I feel like I need some lipo my stomach I don't know I'm looking at some

Brian Atlasof these photo and I feel like you're not being for coming about all your procedures so you're have you had uh Lip

Alicialip filler yeah mhm the you had a back lipo to put fat here in my chest which didn't it's the dumbest thing ever because it only like I think 40% of it

Aliciastays or something like that and it didn't even give me no no that's the extent of it yes I my nose is real everything else just did lip fillers and

Britney Delamoraobviously boto oh no man I I can't I bro I mean she's being honest about everything else why would you think that she's lying don't think that you would

Vesperlie yeah you don't think you don't think people would lie well I don't think that she

Brian Atlaswould being a sex worker and getting implants and everything else I don't think that you would lie about that there's just like a certain shape that's just like impossible to achieve without

Brian Atlassurgery you know what I mean think so yeah there's certain like that's just not humanly possible you can typically spot it I think hers is humanly possible though is it though but she's also a

Peytonbodybuilder that's the thing like if it was me and my butt was huge like that's so nonproportional like I'm like a noodle so like I think it yeah like I

Aliciathink she's owning up to it so I I think yeah like I think she's being honest I'm like 1 I'm 152 right now and I'm 53 and A2 there's

Aliciaa lot of thickness my legs are huge my legs like the size of I don't know how to compare

Aliciathat like of a treat chunk oh I don't know man I

Brian Atlasdon't sorry I'm looking at the [ __ ] Instagram on my [ __ ] bro I can't I okay all yeah guys go follow me on Instagram there you go it's exciting I'm I'm looking at and all my followers are too

AliciaI never paid for a follower like all these sellouts I'm sorry that's so sad when you I'm looking at your boxing match with black China can we see it bro

Brian AtlasI'm sorry but like why are you lying Have You Seen Her compared to me I don't know maybe she's got the extra BBL she got she got the extra

Brian AtlasBBL G Jus May forgive you I'm bro there's some fraud [ __ ] going on I think okay [ __ ] it whatever I'm I'm going to move on cuz I'm just burning time let me read some of these chats um who wants to

Peytonread how about we have Peyton read go ahead okay the [ __ ] testimony is only to make herself feel better about what she did wrong do y'all

Britney Delamora304s really believe your true love will be honest with your nudes on online I'm living proof be honest I'm I'm living proof of that my husband he would have

Britney Delamoranever uh in his honestly right mind I'll just be honest uh thought of dating a woman with a past like mine um but as he got to know me at church like he really felt peace in moving forward and in

Britney Delamoradating me like before me he dated like you know a woman that was going to school to be a doctor and stuff like that like but he felt peace and he felt like this is the woman that I that I'm called to be with in the future and

Britney Delamorashe's not a product of her past she's a product of God's grace amen um and so yeah I'm living proof and we've been happily married for 8 years been together for 10 years okay we have Nickelodeon Peyton if

Peytonyou can read this should broke men be allowed to date or should they just get their life together first if the second why should you of strumpets be allowed to date get

Aliciayour [ __ ] together first okay going on the table should broke men be allowed to date go ahead yes I don't see why not yeah absolutely yes uh I would say no because he needs to be able to provide

Aliciaand when you're dating you should be dating with the intent to be a husband so not broke like I mean you can be struggling like you know but he needs to be trying I mean broke is

Alicialike he needs to at least be ready to seems like a judgment from your part no I just feel like if you're ready to you should be dating for the the idea of marriage and if you're not ready to marry you you got to have a house you

Andrew Wilsongot to you know so why do you have to have any of those things to be married well you want to live with at your parents house with your wife know but the point is is that if if you're super poor and there's people in plenty of

Andrew WilsonNations other than this one who are who get married and have families why would we push back against that just because they don't have a lot of material Goods yeah that's true you're right that that

Brian Atlaschanged with the circumstance I was just thinking a young kid just starting off life would living in his mom's basement would you not date a broke

Aliciaguy um I would if it was if it was God's man for me I would I've turned down rich man it's that's not doesn't do it for me I've turned down a lot of money and that

Britney Delamorastuff doesn't fulfill me okay yeah I think brokman can date yeah I mean they can date but they should have like a vision for the future

Britney Delamoralike they shouldn't be broke and content at least not you know there's so many opportunities to make money and to be able to be a good provider so you should be a Visionary right yeah

Andrew Wilsonbroke men can date Andrew any quick thoughts on this one yeah of course there's no there's no problem at all with this the the the especially from the Christian lens with

Andrew Wilsonmaterialism is irrelevant to Christianity it's totally irrelevant to it there there's nothing at all wrong with poor people getting married and

Andrew Wilsonsometimes they even raise kids in poor households it's just not a huge

Brian Atlasdeal all right we have Justin R here now not moving on bring on the shame you can look up articles of kids of corn Stars self deleting from being bullied name an article of a kid self-

Britney Delamoradeling because their daddy smoked a cigarette I mean we've already discussed this it came in about 30 minutes ago but demons are out there the demons the

Andrew Wilsondemons when you're done with the supers too I have a great question to uh to ask when you're ready to R we have London's fog she's a traditional 30o I think it's cuz I was on the fresh

Aliciaand fit is that what they always say oh yeah wait didn't you say you got kicked off that why did they kick I fli the table did you really my go wait why did you get kicked off so I got kicked off because I was calling him out because

Aliciaboth of those guys liked me both of them were in my DMs but then he was sitting there let's not like leak private no it's not I said it on the podcast and he was sitting there saying you're this you're not worth this you're not and I'm like well what do you think about

Aliciayourself because you're the one that is always coming on to me and yeah yeah and then I told him and then he had a girlfriend and he's very open that he sleeps with multiple women but he thinks his like 19-year-old is high value but

AliciaI'm like a high value wouldn't allow you to just cheat and bring home diseases and and yeah so he didn't like that and his demons were strong um Andrews I

Brian Atlasactually really quick I do just want to address kind of some recent events here I just want to make the statement that um I'm not going to dog pile absolutely

Brian Atlasnot going to dog pile uh fresh I wish him good luck in and I'm saying this with full just genuine heart um he's

Brian Atlasdefinitely in a predicament I'm not um going to dog pile at all um the whole Situation's kind of snafu uh so uh I don't know what I I

Brian Atlaswish him uh good luck in dealing with it because it's total cluster [ __ ] um huh I'm not going to I'm not going to bring it up just I I don't you know look me me

Brian Atlasand them had like a little thing we're a couple months ago but um just I don't think it's uh it wouldn't be right for me to dog pile so um I wish him good

Alicialuck in dealing with with the situation um and we have no Bad Blood by the way I just got kicked out but I think they just did that for everybody it's a trap it's a trap it's a trap I don't agree with how they talk but you know they

Andrew WilsonI'll say on it okay um so anyways uh what am I saying um Andrew had a question oh yeah go ahead Andrew go

Andrew Wilsonahead yeah I do so my question is actually uh I was thinking about this as as we were having kind of our discussion back and forth with uh with the two Christians on the panel just wondering

Andrew Wilsondo you think that it's more effective for you to give your testimony in your gospel or would it be more effective for us to politically try to Outlaw only fans in pornography which thing do you

Aliciathink would be more effective in society I think people sin no matter what so um to be honest testimony people are going to do what they want whether

Aliciathey look at porn on the you know black W whatever there's all types of ways um but of course putting into law wouldn't hurt it obviously it restrict more people from doing it but at the same

Andrew Wilsontime people are going to find ways around it and I think your test I think your testimony is way more powerful um because it's going to change people's hearts rather than for well if there was a law tomorrow which outlawed pornography and prostitution change our

Aliciaheart might restrict do you think that that would have more of an effect than whatever your testimony is going to be no because you can that's going to laws stop you from doing things but it doesn't change your heart about it just like if they said no smoking

Andrew Wilsoncigarettes and they banned that you would probably still they banned it all over the place and you can see the massive reduction in cigarette smoking because of all of the bans on cigarette smoking in fact it's one of the things

Andrew Wilsonyou easiest because it's basically dropped Like a Rock due to all the hang on due to all the stigma against cigarette smoking and all the bands and all the price hikes and things like this

Andrew Wilsonyou've actually seen the behavior modified through social stigma where it's not even in in some company it's not even appropriate anymore so it seems to have worked pretty well people Vape a lot too now vaping is like the new

Andrew Wilsoncigarette smoking yeah well I and what you've noticed is that a stigma is rising against that as well and so you'll see that behavior curtailed as well the

Aliciaquestion is is how much of your energy is actually spent moving against the industry itself and trying to shut it down I think changing the heart is where a change happens it's not going to be by

Aliciaa law so I think we stand on the power of Our Testimony and even with Jesus like he changed people with their hearts and the his testimonies and all he did and the Miracles which is us being here being Miracles that we don't live that

Alicialife anymore that we have peace for the first time in our lives that we we aren't addicted to things that we are complete with Jesus and that is way more life-changing than any other law that

Andrew Wilsonyou can put in so let's say for a second if this is the case the president of the United States has an address which he can make his choice for the first

Andrew Wilsonaddress is that he can say I've put in policy outl outlawing pornography across the board period including sex work or he can air your testimony which one would you recommend he

Aliciado people will find if there's a will there's a way especially when it comes to spiritual SE answer answer the question answer the question ah these questions um the question yeah do you

Andrew Wilsonwant to repeat the question no I think I think my testimony to be honest your testimony of course do you think that that might be a tinge narcissistic no because Jesus Mo we are

Britney Delamorathe power like us speaking and speaking Our Testimony is it has more weight than a law so I actually use both and I've teamed up

Britney Delamorawith Exodus Cry to try to end teenp porn and by teen porn I mean 189 we're trying to change the age to 21 to even be able to enter into pornography uh I would

Britney Delamoralove to see pornography cancelled in totality absolutely I don't think that um there should be any like disagreement on that end and I also use which is more

Britney Delamorathough what's more effective um yeah I mean I think that laws in place would be extremely effective um and I do fight for that but I understand what she's saying that it's that it's not going to

Britney Delamoraactually change someone's heart to have laws in play it might actually because it may influence people if they see you know everything's permissible but not everything's beneficial right and so if

Britney Delamorapornography is permissible then people that are not Believers in Jesus I mean even sadly even Christians watch porn so but if it's it's permissible then people are going to think that it's also

Britney Delamorabeneficial so if we can cancel porn and get it off the internet and cancel only fans there may actually be a rise of people that go wow maybe this is bad for me but then there are also going to be

Andrew Wilsonpeople who are going to hop on the dark web yeah but the thing is is uh we don't curtail behavior in society which we don't like because some people might do it anyway that seems like an absur and

Britney DelamoraI'm not saying that I'm not saying that I would love to see it shut down and I'm actually actively working work on that with Exodus Cry I know so shut shut down all pornography across the board period

Andrew WilsonI think that'd be amazing okay what should what do you think the penalty should be for people who continue to engage in prostitution even if a law came in if you had to put a penalty on it what should happen to a woman who

Britney Delamoraengages in prostitution do you think uh you know I've actually talked uh to the dailywire about that and I do believe it's somewhat of a case-by casee basis only because there are some women who are being trafficked and are forced to

Britney Delamorado what they're doing I'm not talking about Force I'm talking about women who are doing it willingly yeah I mean I think it should be illegal and what should be a great course of action I don't know maybe some jail time yeah

Alicia[Music] prison like two years what about 2year minimal sentence so I know that in Portugal one of the things they did is they didn't they actually put their their laws down for drugs and things

Alicialike that but they went around giving clean needles talking to people and their drug and crime all that went down because they were educating people instead they tried in San Francisco too they gave them clean needles and everything else and now there's literally scat on the street and dirty

Andrew Wilsonneedles all over the place so that didn't seem like it was very effective there yo wait hold on Peyton did you know someone named Paige yes that's my

Peytonroommate what gosh this fuing what I'm scared now what P they're like oh my God I don't even know if I want to [ __ ]

Peytonaddress it a what your roommate is your roommate is not nice no I love my my roommate is like one of my favorite people I love my roommate chat do I do I address it chat now I think we curious

Brian Atlasif it's bad please don't chat do I address it do you love do I address it uh no that just some girl in the chat was like um Peyton you should uh saying

Brian Atlasyou should leave what leave the podcast yeah leave the podcast okay I I don't know do you want do you want to respond to Paige Paige said I should leave the

Brian Atlaspodcast yeah she didn't say why she just said you should probably because she disagrees with the conversations that are occurring I guess oh she doesn't want us to convert

Peytonher just kidding paig definitely always does have my best interest in mind so I don't know yeah what's her stance yeah well should we have her do a call in

Brian Atlasyeah do it yo page in the chat you want to [ __ ] call your friend here and you can try to explain why she should get off the podcast you have to agree to being recorded though Paige is still here huh let's see

Brian Atlasif Paige is still here yeah let's let's have her let's I can't even see let's see in the chat she's probably still in the chat Paige you want to do a Callin you can you have to uh agree that you'll be recorded though uh let's see I can't

Brian AtlasI don't see if she's she probably is [ __ ] embarrassed and she's gone I don't see her in the chat let's see explain to us Paige why she should leave

Brian Atlasthe podcast did you tell her you told her I'm assuming that you were going on oh yeah yeah yeah okay you got to pay the rent uh okay I don't see she's I don't

Brian Atlasget it though I don't even feel like she's been picked on at all yeah not really I don't see her she's coward she's she's she's being a coward so unfortunately I don't think she's going

Brian Atlasto call in but she's probably not on the podcast anymore how do you know that she's literally what time is it oh she literally no she literally sent the

Brian Atlasmessage like 30 seconds before I pulled it up I'm sure she's not going to leave any more comments cuz she's scared but she probably just doesn't want to be involved yeah but I mean Paige always

Brian Atlasdoes have my best interest in mind okay cuz you're not you're 19 you're not an adult who can make their own decisions and how old is Paige 19 well about to be 19 maybe she should come on the podcast and

Brian Atlaswe can see why she objects to you being on the podcast um kind of weird anyways um let's see here is there a last name

Brian Atlashuh is there a last name for the shot just say paig in the chat yeah I mean I'm not going to say it on the stream but in the chat yeah she did have the last name so can you pull up the chat or

Nataliano no I'm not going to pull it up um okay good talk wait actually you know what go can should we get her phone and see if she's been texting you I'm curious someone's alarm is going on

Brian Atlasattend to that thank you is that your phone yes is that your birth control wait is the birth control it's the birth control page is the birth control wait we told you we told you to turn off the

Brian Atlasbirth if before the show guys for those watching we say you know hey silence your phone that includes turning off your birth control blah blah blah that was Paige maybe Paige is calling are you

Brian Atlasokay it's going to there's going to be like a fake watch check this out guys there's going to be a fake emergency fake eer okay whatever um do you want to take your seat again you can

Brian Atlasjust okay where where were we I'm trying to remember did she text you we were talking about okay criminalizing what' she say what'd she say sorry I'm being

Brian Atlaspetty it's not that we came this far oh my God it's Andrew is so toxic paage said are you okay we've been bro

Peytonshe it's it's live dude she's chilling wait go ahead what did she say Payton it's six hours long get out Payton like

Brian Atlasbutt hurt about oh my God she's it's it's almost 10 p.m. it's past her bed time she said you're doing so good your answers are perfect a Paige all that

Brian Atlasdrama just for Paige being a great yeah Paige is like thoroughly embarrassed okay all right I think it's just I think it's Paige's bedtime that's that's all okay whatever miss you we are go to bed

Brian AtlasPaige go to bed Paige what are you doing to bed you go Paige all right uh so okay let me get through some of my pre-show notes here from everybody uh going to Peach over here you said in your

Brian Atlaspre-show notes Peach you think that you can turn your words not mine you can turn a hoe into a

Crystalhousewife explain that yeah I think I think you can um because you can like like let's say like you can change yeah after being a hub yeah like you can

Crystalchange your life turn your life all like all the way around you know erroneous erroneous you you probably don't I

Brian Atlasdisagree with you no you can change your life around but I don't think men are obliged to accept your past mhm no if they don't

Brian Atlashave Jesus I mean thank God we're all forgiven I actually even if you're religious I actually don't even think it's a contradictory position to be devoutly religious and

TTS Donation Readeralso have the choice to not date a woman who's a sex hold on hold on the body is the most tender intimate part of our being speaks

TTS Donation Readervolumes about a who is willing to jeopardize that sanctity for Superfluous things like money and clout get a skill save your soul um

Aliciatheisle so I want a guy who actually has a crazy past because him having a crazy past and turning to God is amazing because he could go back to that life but he chose to change his life and I

Aliciathink that's I think that's an amazing thing to to go through that and and not pick that side some people would just hide in their sin and keep you know what I'm saying so to have somebody who's 180

Brian Atlastheir life transformed their life that's a beautiful thing sure look women can change and be redeemed but men do not need to then disregard the baggage that comes with that and marry them and I think

Britney Delamorathese are compatible from a secular perspective and a theological perspective I agree to an extent I don't think that a man has to accept a woman with a past right it has to almost be

Britney Delamoralike a calling for example my husband before he felt God give him peace he never would have considered a woman with a past like mine he has a very clean testimony um he's you know really

Britney Delamoraguarded his life and so he would have never he wasn't even a porn Watcher like so what I'm getting at is like yeah you don't have to accept a woman's past but it doesn't mean that there isn't a man that won't be called to you that won't

Andrew Wilsonembrace you and not see you as a product of your past but a product of God's grace I absolutely think I I don't I don't disagree that people can move on their P from their past and they should

Andrew Wilsonin fact I would say it's the best thing best thing in the world world to watch people redeem themselves or uh move past kind of this horrific Behavior but let

Andrew Wilsonme ask you a question you have children when your children are 18 one of them is 18 and comes to you and gives you a choice and says listen I have this guy

Andrew Wilsonover here who has this past or gal over here has this past where you know they're inundated with pornography let's say he like 5 years old or something

Andrew Wilsonlike this and then I have another choice another guy right who doesn't have that pass and I like him about the same which one would you recommend that they go with I'm so sorry there was a lot of distraction going on can you please

Brian Atlasrepeat the question yeah uh I what's going on there Brian the girl was on her phone I told Nick to grab take the phone back she's now gone

Brian Atlasoff to continue texting on her phone which completely kind of contradicts my intention there um um if you can that's that's my bad if you can Andrew if you can repeat yourself yeah yeah so I was

Andrew Wilsonjust saying uh if your if your kid came to you and had two different suitors and one had a pass that was riddled with pornography and the other one did not uh and she liked them about the same which one would you recommend that she go with

Britney DelamoraI mean I would have to know the person and know the fruit in their present because I really do believe that God can redeem anybody it's about the same that's what I said well if it's about the same then of course I'd probably say

Britney Delamorawell then maybe go with the man I mean everybody sins but like yeah maybe go with the man that hasn't I mean it why would you why would you say that though

Britney Delamorawhy would I say it because you know what and just being 100% truthful is that people that have watched porn I mean you can go without it but you might get

Britney Delamoratempted they start in it what's that they start in it they starred in it yeah oh why would I choose the person because if they're equal right if they're equal and you like them both the same then why

Britney Delamoranot choose the person that doesn't have the past I'm not up here trying to say that every man will accept your past I'm being honest about that so I'm not saying that you're saying that I'm just saying that there must be a reason why

Andrew Wilsonit would be that you would recommend that they don't to Brian's Point all Brian's pointing out here is your past does stay with you regardless the baggage of that does stay with you

Andrew Wilsonregardless it's not a contradictory position to say look if you want to move past or you don't want to get together with a woman who has done pornography and prostitution

Britney Delamoraand things like that totally acceptable if you if it's between two people one has a one has a past and porn the other doesn't you know what if you like them both equally go with the one that doesn't have the past and the reason for

Britney Delamorathat is because my past does have a lot of consequences my husband has had to have people send him images of me and we are going to have to deal with that with our children it's not something that I'm

Britney Delamoraproud of it's something that I wish I could give back and so yes if I was to guide my child and they said hands down I love them both the same which I kind of think is weird because then it's like why are you giving your heart away to

Britney Delamoratwo different people that is strange but in a hypothetical situation I would say choose the one that doesn't have the past because it does have consequences now let's take a non-hypothetical situation apply the same logic if you

Andrew Wilsondon't mind your kid comes to you and just says that they're interested in a person that has a past riddled with pornography seems like a decent enough

Andrew Wilsonperson okay but they have this past it's riddled with all sorts of pornography they start on the big screen you know the the whole nine yards would you

Britney Delamorarecommend that they maybe take their time and see if they couldn't do better uh it depends if they are in love if my child is in love and the person is bearing fruit of repentance and really

Britney Delamoratruly has a changed mind then I would say if you really love this person then then you know what I give you my blessing if the person genuinely is a a

Andrew Wilsonman of God or a woman of God yeah but the thing is is uh why not give the advice no you probably don't want to do that maybe maybe the best thing is for you to hold out for a

Andrew Wilsonlittle while see if you can find someone who's better who doesn't uh you know engage in pornography and this type of thing because honestly does that sound also like Sound Advice well yeah it

Britney Delamoracould be but it just you're giving advice based on your your perspective for me I'm living proof yes I have a horrific past but I'm a wonderful Rule and you know it hang on

Britney Delamorayou're an exception and not the rule and you know it y you're right but there could be more women like me if they honestly had a relationship with the Lord and they surrendered there aren't

Andrew Wilsonmore women like you really there's very few women like you and you know it and you would say it's a huge massive red flag right and that people should probably avoid it like the plague

Britney Delamorabecause of that if if they don't have a relationship with the Lord and haven't be are not bearing fruit of repentance then absolutely it's a red flag even if they did even if they are bearing the fruit of repentance you have one right

Britney Delamoranext to you who's bearing the fruit of repentance by her own admission would you want your son to date her she's still in her beginning stages of Christianity when I came to church I had bikini photos all the things right and I

Britney Delamorawas sitting in a service and my husband was actually the preacher and he said if you don't like what you're attracting change what you're promoting that word was enough to convict me I thought wow

Andrew Wilsonall these EXs are not the rule and you know that this is an exception that your story it the reason it's intriguing and people are interested in it is because it's exceptional because you're an

Andrew Wilsonexception to this rule it's not something which is common very few people go down the same path that you did and become religious zealot it's very rare and so how could this not be a massive red flag and as a good mother

Britney Delamorawouldn't the very first thing you would say is say wait let's put the [ __ ] breakes on especially how familiar you are with that industry you'd have to right like I said if I met this person I have great discernment and I got to know

Britney Delamorathem over time and I could tell that they genuinely bear fruit of repentance meaning you know it even shows that throughout their social media not just social media but privately then I would say that it would be okay but I would

Andrew Wilsonhave to see that they bear fruit of repentance if they haven't now last uh last question on this assuming your husband right who has had no involvement in any of this type of stuff right and

Andrew Wilsonand God bless the man I'm I I hope he's a very happy very happy man he really um but assuming for a moment that he came to you and he said I don't want my

Andrew Wilsonchildren to date anybody who was engaged in any kind of prostitution whatsoever ever I don't want that and I'm going to advise them against it even if they

Andrew Wilsonfound the Lord I'm going to advise against it because I don't want them to do that because of what happened when they were in school with other people knowing that Mom you know had these problems and this and that would you

Britney Delamorarespect his decision I mean absolutely I would but this again is hypothetical because my husband has seen God move in my life to the point where if he actually got to

Britney Delamoraknow one of their potential uh dating partners than they had a past yet they were bearing fruit and when I say bear fruit rep but you don't think but you're right I get it the used most actually

Andrew Wilsonproblematic you don't think then it's actually problematic for a Christian man to have such a a stone guarded rule for his children right I I think you're making a a great Point Alicia she's

Britney Delamorabringing up like in the Bible so like Saul and Paul's conversion like God greatly used Paul and he was a murder of Christian he literally killed Christian I've heard listen listen I've heard the

Andrew WilsonGod still used you're not you're not Paul all right you're not Paul and Paul was repentant okay and Paul also never said that he deserved to have a wife because of this

Andrew Wilsonrepentance that never happened well I never said that I deser a husband but I'm so grateful that God brought me one yeah I don't I don't listen listen to what I'm saying is there something that

Andrew Wilsonyou would say is unchristian or bad magdal about a man who is a Christian saying and setting the strong par parameter on their relationship with their wife that they do not want their

Britney Delamorachildren involved in any way with anybody who has a promiscuous pass of of prostitution yeah I hear your question so uh now you're painting it as like a different couple because see I could never see my husband saying something

Britney Delamoralike that unless the person was clearly still you know unrepentant um but yeah if it's another couple like I understand that people have boundaries and people have standards and that's perfectly okay for someone to say hey I don't want my

Britney Delamorachild to date somebody that's been in the porn industry maybe they have no experience with you know a transformed life or whatever their reasons may be that's not unacceptable right so if they have those

Aliciaboundaries and they're not accepting of it yeah right they don't want it they're not supportive of it they're not being bad parents lot of people have sin but theirs isn't so open so it's like you're really making it like that's the worst

Aliciathing you can do but there's sin and it's hidden and what why don't we talk about those things those are the things that are worse and he used Mary I thought there was no such thing as a worse

Britney Delamorasin got you [ __ ] come on you guys stop come on seriously it's Dave Chappelle come on she's come on it's okay for a person to set those

Brian Atlastypes of boundaries with their children hold on let me let me try to include some other people here all right originally you said originally you said you think you can turn a hoe into a

Brian Atlashousewife oh you're asking yes no no you're good you're good yeah you can yes I think so yeah you think so yes well I think do you think it's

Brian Atlassuboptimal to do to do that let's say you can do you think it's a good move as a guy to to do that um

Crystalwhat's suboptimal mean like what is suboptimal um yeah I think it's like isn't it like preference like some guys don't even care like do

Brian Atlasyou think okay here's a question do you think if given the choice between wiing I suppose a wife and then turning

Brian Atlasa okay turning a normal woman into a wife versus turning a hoe into a wife don't you think most men

Crystalwould pick the normal woman I guess it depends on preference I mean some guys were willing to wife a host well are they willing to do it because they have no other options maybe

Brian Atlasthey like it you know they like that she's a hoe yeah how many men like like for for long-term commitment how many men want a wife a ho

CrystalI think it's just like your your words not mine by the way this this is is what she said okay well I think it can be a hoe and a wife at the same time you know what like you know like only fans

Crystalmodel what like like there's like only fans people like you know like Lena the plug whatever and her man like they like

Crystalare happily together they have kids and I mean he accepts her how she is and he's the same way and together so

Brian Atlasdo you object to me saying I don't recommend men attempt to turn a ho your words not mine into a

Brian Atlashousewife I just think it's a suboptimal dating choice and if there's other options and there's plenty of women who

Crystalare not or were not to use your words ho MH why not just pick a normal woman yeah I mean based on preference like I said well

Brian Atlaswho okay let's assume though most men don't don't have the preference of dating women who are 30 foes do you think most men have that

Brian Atlaswould prefer to date a 304 304 some will I I don't yes some will but in terms of

Aliciapreference um I mean actually there's a lot of simps out there so I don't know there's a [ __ ] ton of ss out there some guys have the spirit of perversion and they actually like it when I got out of of I had a lot of men

Brian Atlasthat were like man I really missed that I wish you did that so there is men out there who that is their thing and I think I'm not agreeing with it but it is

Brian Atlasso Peach for example uh do you consider yourself a ho yeah um no not really you don't I mean not really so wait why is

Brian Atlasthis your position well I mean I had like a past before you know you had a past M you had the past do you mean a current you have a current too don't you you have a

Crystalcurrent too well you said you're a stripper correct yes you do o uh or not I had I have one but I don't really use it like that cuz cuz uh we took a look at your

Brian AtlasTwitter and I mean I don't know is someone who values public facing modesty I mean there's a photo on your

Brian AtlasTwitter and there's like can't play with the guy SE it all over you okay I'm going to say yeah I mean I

Crystaldon't know if you see not a not a 305 well I mean not what do you consider like a 30 like what well you said you don't consider yourself a what oh you

Brian Atlasdon't consider yourself that but there's a photo of you on Twitter that you posted with a guy

Brian AtlasSplunk all over you right well a little do it's maybe a little bit well this is like wait say the word it's a little bit ho it's a little bit right a little bit

Crystalwell I think it's just for me am I wrong I mean you're not wrong no I think for me it was like I used to you know sleep around a lot and now I'm just

Crystallike sleeping with one person you know who my boyfriend and so before you met him were you sleeping around a lot I was yeah mhm when you first met him were you

Brian Atlasstill also sleeping around uh no not anymore I had like no but like obviously when you first met him like maybe there were other guys in the picture right yeah what so what's the scope of that

Crystallike there was like one other person at the time that you were sleeping with yeah when you met your now boyfriend yes

Brian Atlasdid your boyfriend take you on a he took you on like first date right yeah mhm how wait how long from first date with

Brian Atlasboyfriend friend to being boyfriend girlfriend it was like 3 months 3 months M uh on that first date were you still sexually involved

Brian Atlaswith the other guy no not anymore not really you were uh were you sexually involved with any guy when you were on the first day with

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