Andrew Wilson! DRAMA! Bratty Gamer Girl?! E-GIRLS! Born Again VlRGlN?! | Dating Talk #150

Date: 2024-04-08

Duration: 6h 25m

Guests

Brian Atlas

PPeyton (DT150)>

VVesper (DT150)>

CCrystal (DT150)>

AAlicia (DT150)>

NNatalia (DT150)>

BBritney Delamora >

SSunny (DT150)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Background Voice(audience)

SPEAKER_01TTS/Background Voice(audience)

SPEAKER_02Britney Delamora(guest)

SPEAKER_03Sunny(guest)

SPEAKER_04Vesper(guest)

SPEAKER_05Natalia(guest)

SPEAKER_06Peyton(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08TTS Donation Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_10Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_12Crystal(guest)

SPEAKER_14Alicia(guest)

Key Moments

IntroBrian introduces the panel; guests include stripper Vesper (24, Dallas), medical student Peyton (19, Rancho Cucamonga), Crystal (29, LA stripper), Alicia/Megan (34, Air Force vet / boxer / born-again Christian), Natalia (almost 19, Seattle), Britney Delamora (37, ministry founder / former porn actress), Sunny (34, Canadian, Naked and Afraid, 12 weeks pregnant), and returning guest Andrew Wilson (host of The Crucible).

“"without further Ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name"”

QuoteBritney Delamora reveals she was in the adult film industry for 7 years and has been out for 12 years; she now runs a ministry helping porn-addicted people and ex-industry workers.

“"I was in the adult film industry for seven years of my life... I've been out for 12 years"”

QuoteSunny announces she appeared on Naked and Afraid (Discovery Channel), filmed in the Colombian jungle for 21 days, as one of only 6 Canadians to complete the challenge. Episode aired March 17, 2024.

“"I am a survivalist for Discovery Channel known as Naked and Afraid so only six Canadians have ever completed that challenge"”

QuoteAndrew Wilson introduces himself as host of The Crucible, described as fastest-growing debate channel on the internet; returns to Whatever Podcast.

“"my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible fastest growing debate channel"”

ControversyAndrew Wilson challenges the concept of born-again virginity as "nonsensical false doctrine," arguing that virginity is physically gone and cannot be spiritually restored. Extended debate with Alicia and Britney Delamora over purity vs. virginity, and whether Christianity is a religion or a relationship.

“"born again virgin... that doesn't make sense to me... your virginity was not put back into your body"”

ControversyBritney Delamora clarifies the born-again virgin concept: purity (a heart condition) is restorable by God; physical virginity is not. Calls it "a second chance at doing things right."

“"virginity is not yeah what... God can give you back virginity is not"”

QuoteBritney Delamora reveals she was baptized by her pimp (who claimed to be Christian) while still in the porn industry, and then felt the Holy Spirit tell her to leave her pimp and call her mother.

“"your pimp took you to church to baptize out the demons is that right"”

OtherSunny announces she is 12 weeks pregnant with her second child; married in fall 2023; gender reveal planned at week 20.

“"I'm currently pregnant with another one currently pregnant super excited... 12 weeks"”

ControversyAndrew Wilson opens debate on female pastors, citing Paul's epistles; challenges Britney Delamora on whether women should have pastoral authority over men. Brian cuts off the extended theological argument to move on.

“"where is the idea that women can be ordained as female pastors come from"”

ControversyAndrew Wilson challenges Alicia on keeping provocative photos on Instagram while claiming born-again Christianity. Asks repeatedly what stops her from deleting them. Alicia says she was re-baptized only 3 weeks prior and it is a process. Andrew references Satan wanting the photos up. Alicia calls Andrew a Pharisee.

“"what is actually stopping you if you believe that it's wrong... from right this second deleting them"”

ControversyAndrew Wilson argues parents should disown adult children for doing OnlyFans or porn. Britney strongly disagrees: many women in sex work got there due to family dysfunction; removal of love is counterproductive. Panel mostly disagrees with Andrew.

“"parents should disown their adult children for doing only fans or porn which you disagree with"”

OtherDating profile review segment: Natalia's Bumble profile (musical reference flagged by panel; Hennessy comment flagged by chat). Peyton's profile (no kids, atheist, liberal, weed). Chat votes mostly no-swipe on Natalia. Discussion of who is on birth control.

“"we're going to do the dating profile review segment"”

OtherSelf-ratings round: Brian reads viewer request. Alicia: 9-10 (Jesus's eyes). Peyton: 6. Crystal: 7. Britney: 7 (was 10 at 27). Sunny: 5 to 5.5. Andrew Wilson: 20-25-30 (joking). Andrew criticizes Britney's self-rating as delusional; praises Sunny's honesty.

“"Stiffler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of one to 10 starting with you"”

ControversyAndrew Wilson criticizes Britney Delamora's self-rating of 7-8 as delusional, calling it an example of cognitive dissonance he observes all night. Britney responds that she is a 10 to her husband and she is not on the market. Sunny diplomatically avoids directly calling others delusional.

“"there's no fucking universe in which you are an eight"”

QuoteBrian shares he was cheated out of Perdition's Blade in Molten Core (WoW classic) by Loot Council; nearly quit the guild on the spot.

“"I was in a guild I got screwed over on perdition's blade... this other Rogue already had two purple daggers"”

OtherBody count round: Alicia = 0, Peyton = 10, Vesper = 20, Crystal = around 12, Natalia = declined, Britney = ~200+ scenes. Andrew Wilson presses unnamed guests on accuracy of "a lot." Britney clarifies she had a yes-list of ~8 regular men for most of career.

“"what's your body count starting with you"”

ControversyBowing discussion: Brian asks if women would bow to their man. Most female guests decline. Andrew and Brian argue hypocrisy: women refuse a bow but accept degrading sexual acts. Britney would bow lovingly to husband (not in worship). Sunny references Filipino mano po cultural bow.

“"would you bow if you were dating a guy and he's like I'd really appreciate a bow"”

OtherEnd of show: Brian raids WowGrandma78 (82yo WoW retail streamer) on Twitch; secondary Twitch raid to FrostAdamus. Andrew Wilson redirects YouTube viewers to The Crucible channel.

“"we are going to do a twitch raid... WowGrandma78 she's 82 she plays World of Warcraft"”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions

Guests introduce name, age, location, occupation. Notable: Britney Delamora reveals ministry background and former porn career. Sunny announces 12-week pregnancy on show. Andrew Wilson returns as guest debater. Alicia reveals Air Force background, celebrity boxing (Blac Chyna fight), and born-again Christianity.

Relationship status round

Brian goes around table for relationship status and relationship history. Vesper: engaged, fiance 17 years older (age 41). Alicia: celibate since March 2022, dating Jesus. Britney: married 8 years / together 10. Sunny: married fall 2023; 12 weeks pregnant. Extended debate on born-again virginity between Andrew Wilson, Alicia, and Britney. Andrew calls the concept "nonsensical false doctrine." Britney clarifies purity vs virginity.

Born-again virginity debate

Andrew Wilson challenges Alicia and Britney on the concept of born-again virginity. Andrew: virginity is physically gone and cannot be spiritually restored. Alicia: it is spiritual purity, not physical; God restores what was taken. Britney: clarifies purity (a heart condition) is restorable; virginity (physical) is not. Debate extends into whether Christianity is a religion or a relationship, denominational accountability, and how to adjudicate competing Holy Spirit claims.

Female pastors debate

Andrew Wilson asks where the idea of female pastors comes from; cites Pauline epistles. Britney: was ordained but does not call herself pastor; leads connect groups for women. Believes women can pastor over women under male authority. Andrew: women should not have ecclesiastical authority over men per scripture. Debate includes women evangelists (woman at the well, Mary Magdalene) vs. pastoral role. Britney references illiteracy in early church context for Pauline "women be silent" passages.

Hawaii first class / economy scenario

Brian poses scenario: boyfriend pays for Hawaii trip but takes first class while putting girlfriend in economy. Most guests find it problematic unless he has a legitimate reason (back pain, affordability). All say they would be fine if both were in economy together. Andrew Wilson: if he can pay for the whole trip, sitting apart in first class is reasonable. Vesper: bothered; would be "stressed out" reading it as a sign he might abandon her. Natalia: wants to meet in the middle (comfort class). Sunny: totally fine if legitimate reason (back pain); grateful for the trip overall.

Christianity debate: religion vs. relationship / Instagram photos

Andrew Wilson challenges Alicia on having provocative photos on Instagram while claiming Christian faith. Andrew: asks what is stopping her from deleting photos she admits are inappropriate. Alicia: recently re-baptized (3 weeks ago); it is a process; God convicts over time. Britney: agrees it is a process; she transitioned out over years. Andrew accuses Alicia of having no good excuse for delay. Andrew references the Paradox of Declining Female Happiness — women everywhere are miserable due to exported Western feminist ideology. Alicia calls Andrew a Pharisee.

Would you date a feminist / feminist definition

Brian asks who would date a man who does not identify as a feminist. Most say yes they would date a non-feminist man. Alicia: man should be masculine; society has pushed women into masculine roles due to emotional damage. Britney: if husband were a feminist they would not be married. Brief debate on what feminism means. Natalia: would be bothered by a man who is grossed out by feminism in front of her friends. Crystal: does not think identifying as feminist is necessary. Vesper: matching values matters; does not need a feminist partner.

Vesper Instagram / Twitter / OnlyFans review

Brian reads Vesper's social media bio: luxury house pet, bratty gamer girl, University Art ho, court jester. Discusses tweets: men deserve someone addicted to sex with them; obsessed with fat men (not a feeder); orange peel theory; "charge your man cash every time he disrespects you." Andrew asks about video game skill; Vesper says she is moderate, plays story/building games. Discussed BFA in Studio Arts (painting, ceramics).

Disowning children for sex work

Andrew Wilson says parents should disown adult children doing OnlyFans or porn. Panel debates. Peyton: understands disowning if it harms family reputation (medical field parents). Alicia: disagrees; her mother kept contact during addiction and kept her alive. Britney: strongly disagrees; women in sex work need family love most. Sunny: supports tough love but not disowning; parents should be honest. Vesper: nuanced; not all families are close; not automatic shame. Andrew: argues it is a legitimate response to protect family honor.

Dating profile review segment

Brian and panel review dating app profiles (Bumble) for Natalia and Peyton. Natalia profile: likes acting like a musical (panel warns to remove this); can finish a bottle of Hennessy (chat reacts negatively). Chat votes mostly swipe no on Natalia. Peyton profile: 5'6", no workouts, Pisces, does not want children, atheist, liberal, smokes weed socially. Discussion of whether Peyton has accidental celibacy. Brian asks who is on birth control (IUD, implant, hormonal). Sunny: pregnant (perfect birth control). Natalia: not on anything.

Peyton standards and requirements discussion

Brian probes Peyton on why she is single with high standards. Peyton: needs to be star-struck; is very picky. Standards: 6+ feet, goes to gym, muscular not bodybuilder, celebrity crush type Vinnie Hacker. Has been involuntarily celibate for over a year despite going out weekly (Santa Barbara). Andrew Wilson: women dating up are often passed over by men they want. Discussion of Peyton's picky nature vs. her Bumble inactivity.

Self-ratings round (1-10 looks)

Brian reads viewer request to rate looks 1-10. Peyton: maybe 6. Alicia: 9 (then says 10 in Jesus's eyes). Crystal: 7. Britney: 7 (at 37 after 2 kids; was 10 at 27). Sunny: 5 to 5.5 (honest; scoliosis affects posture). Andrew Wilson: 20-25-30 (joking delusional answer); Andrew gives Sunny a solid 6. Andrew criticizes Britney's 7-8 as delusional by objective standards. Extended debate on objective vs. subjective beauty standards.

Women's happiness and feminism / Western ideology

Andrew Wilson presents Paradox of Declining Female Happiness research (Rachel Wilson Substack). Claims women are universally less happy than men across cultures and countries. Attributes this to feminist and Western ideology export causing women to forget "their place." Britney: has had 12 consecutive years of joy since becoming a Christian; attributes unhappy Christian women to insufficient daily practice (prayer, Bible). Alicia: happiness comes from Jesus regardless of external circumstances. Panel mostly agrees feminism has negative effects on female happiness.

WoW streamers dating discussion

Brian shows profiles of WoW streamers xQc, Asmongold, and Pokelawls. Asks if guests would date them. Most say no despite xQc's $100M deal. Peyton: would not date xQc (reminds her of Pete Davidson). Crystal: loot council (all about the money). Vesper: says she would be a feeder for them (joking). Brian laments that these millionaire gamers can't attract the panel.

Body count round

Brian asks body counts. Alicia/Megan: 0 (zero; celibate; did not do scenes with men on OnlyFans; not completely nude). Peyton: "two hands" (10). Vesper (implied via "Asia" reference): 20. Crystal: around 12. Natalia: no comment (declined, was called out by Andrew Wilson and Brian). Britney Delamora: approximately 200+ scenes; yes-list of ~8 regular male partners for most of career. Sunny: 2 hands (ambiguous; either ~10 or two partners). Andrew Wilson asks if "a lot" would be accurate for certain unnamed guests; pushes for honesty.

Bowing debate

Brian and Andrew ask if women would bow to their partner. Brian: just wants a bow; compares it to engagement ring tradition. Andrew: raises the point that women refuse simple acts of deference but accept degrading sexual acts. Britney: would bow in loving context to husband; not in worship context. Alicia: would bow if submissive but only to husband. Vesper: maybe if he bows back; would not if only she had to. Peyton: refuses; Natalia: stresses out trying to analyze gesture. Andrew: suggests curtsy as alternative. Sunny: references Filipino mano po (placing elder hand to forehead) as cultural bow equivalent. Brian references Exodus 20:5 (do not bow to idols) in the debate.

WoW streamer raid and closing

Brian raids WowGrandma78 (82-year-old WoW retail streamer) on Twitch; tells chat to be nice and tell her to come on the show. Secondary raid to FrostAdamus (also WoW player). Andrew Wilson redirects YouTube viewers to The Crucible channel. Brian discusses WoW guild loot systems with panel (Loot Council, DKP, Soft Reserve, etc.); shares personal story of being cheated on Perdition's Blade in Molten Core by Loot Council. Final bowing discussion: Andrew asks if women would bow to their man. Most decline (except Britney saying she would bow in love to husband). Brian compares refusing a bow to allowing more degrading sexual acts.

Transcript

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Sunnyworld outside of skills and personality like an eight is like Angelina Jolie when she was doing the Golden Globes in that dress right I I

Sunnythink I would only lower it I I would be a little bit more Ang jie oh my God most beautiful woman in the world right so that's why I'm like okay like halfway mark maybe I'll give myself a0 five cuz

Andrew WilsonI've got some good genetics on that you know that's where I went with mine yeah do you think you're better looking than she is me to Angelina Jo God no no no to the

Andrew Wilsonchick next to you it's all honesty right it's all we're all being honest here isn't it all about honesty everybody in this room is better looking give me somebody my own because it's hard to compare like I

Andrew Wilsoncan't compare with you like well I thought you just got done saying we have an objective standard yeah you can

Sunnycompare I think in men's eyes if we were both wearing the exact same outfit and they were going to approach one it's blonde

Britney Delamorahair blue eyes little bit younger I think at that point but unless the men prefer brunette yeah see beauty is on the eye of the

Andrew Wilsonbeholder yeah you know you think also have something to do you think maybe the fact that she's 37 might also have something to do with that and that's why give somebody who's the same

Sunnyage and like I'd be like yeah same age same whatever cool but it's like she's she's already had two she's 37 like how like it it doesn't seem a little bit delusional to you like a little tiny bit

Andrew Wilsonthat that's the answer don't you think she looks great like especially like how old are you again I'm not saying listen I'm not saying I'm not I'm not saying anybody here looks that I'm saying

Andrew Wilsoneverybody here opposed to me especially is beautiful great but that doesn't mean that the standard doesn't exist she just got them saying there's an objective standard I'm like but she can't compare

Background/Production Voicereally she's like well okay that actually doesn't make any sense but she's trying to be nice right she trying to be nice I want to nicely she said she said her because she said delusional right come on it's delusional you know

Britney Delamorayou know what is I I honestly don't care what you think I rate as because I am a 10 to my husband and I'm married I'm not on the market I never will be on the market so it honestly doesn't matter and you should be a 10year husband great I'm

Andrew Wilsonsure my wife thinks I'm a 10 to but I'm [ __ ] not so the thing is it's like great I'm glad that he thinks that more power to him he should think that fantastic but back to objective

Brian Atlasreality do you like the hairstyle Andrew I'm like you're you're really doing it tonight bro am I am I pulling it off you need his little curly that hangs down am

Andrew WilsonI pulling it off yeah well well you got to you know you such a way where it looks like it's okay if you're wearing a leather jack to pick your teeth with a switchblade that's the uh that's the key

Andrew Wilsonokay I'll be I'll be back I'll be back so anyway yeah back back to this I'm not even trying to pitch against one another I'm just saying if there is an objective standard if there is an

Britney Delamoraobjective standard right and you agree that there is then these women's answers are not in any way credible to this I think me I'm not comparing myself to an

Britney DelamoraAngelina Julie I'm comparing myself to myself because I don't live in a world of comparison I don't sit and compare myself to the women sitting acoss because I compare myself to what I once

Britney Delamoralook likeed look looked like and didn't you okay I get it but then you would be using the objective standard of the world there's no other way there's no other but I'm not sitting comparing

Britney Delamoramyself to other women I'm saying okay when I look at myself when I was like 21 like I was at my best version of myself maybe 25 best version of myself as I've been aging obvious ly compared to what I

TTS Donation Readerused to look like I am I would deduct points from myself but I'm not sitting here comparing myself $200 wow blonde girl I give you props you may be the only woman on this

Andrew Wilsonchannel to ever be honest with the ratings regardless of the other crap you said tonight I'm going to give you a W for that with a capital it's going to be capital W right so she did she did say

Andrew Wilsonthere's an objective standard she uh made sure that she wasn't uh in any way shape or form a hypocrite with that standard that's why I asked her if that's true can you just tell us if

Sunnythese women's ratings are true or false tell us I'm not the host of the podcast I don't have to you don't want to no I'm Canadian give me a break man neutral

Background/Production Voiceneutral that goes against every part of our

Andrew Wilsoncode okay just saying I I just I feel like if you were to respond though that you would say that a little bit of delusion in the

Andrew Wilsonroom yeah and by the way I've been sitting exactly where you're sitting and I know that on camera all these women look way better than they do in person I've just I'm just going to say right i' that's an observation that I've made

Andrew Wilsonbeing there many times so is good doesn't good are they are they delusional looks great he he's got it you look like a 10 there you go than you I'll send you a switchblade bro

Andrew Wilsonthank you thank you very much thank you very so are they are they

Sunnydelusional I think the world wants us to compare but I think she not going to she not going to answer come on answer are they delusional are they wrong Canadian code I got to live in America at least for a month before I have the balls to

Sunnybe able to say that one all right she needs her visa I got that I I got that I'm illegally allowed to work here but the maple syrup has to

Brian Atlasdrain from my veins so I'm not so sweet I like that that's good good talk we have a chat here from

Brian AtlasBrian Jones question for Andrew what would you want your daughter to rate herself at not a 10 question mark mine is always a 10 delusional or not from

Brian AtlasBrian with the inferior spelling of Brian Father's Love so um would you lie to her Brian

Andrew Wilsonyour daughter came to you and she was like let's say she was a little fat kid and she came to you and she was like Hey you know I really want the the guy who's the captain of the football team who's

Andrew Wilsonout there with Cindy Lou Who is uh you know I don't know a double D and she's gorgeous and she has blonde hair are you going to lie to her you're going to be like well you go get him honey cuz you're a 10 or are you going to be more

Andrew Wilsona little bit more realistic you have to hurt her feelings but I would do the same thing with the with maybe my boy do the same my boy be like that chick's way out of your [ __ ] League are you insane but you don't know maybe hang

Andrew Wilsonhang on hang on let me finish let me finish the question was addressed to me just after that right hang on a second there's no way he's a Christian what I'm saying though is that yeah I think I would be totally honest with her

Andrew Wilsonabout what is true because it's necessary you have to be honest with people about what is true it's not comfortable I get that cognitive dissonance sucks it's not it's not great but yeah I think I think you have to be

Sunnyhonest about things when I was a kid I got bullied really bad so did I full body brace I had a shaved head and I was in Boy Scouts and I was getting bullied and I went home crying to my mom and I was

Sunnylike Mom am I pretty cuz all the girls moms are saying how pretty they were and uh I was getting bullet called the boy and stuff like that and my mom's

Sunnyresponse was you're a nice person oh and but how did that affect you you know I I'm grateful though in a sense because like when I was younger oh that hurt like balls cuz I was like oh I am as

Sunnyugly duckling as I'm getting bullied but the thing was my mom's goal was for me to base my life off of my character as a good person and being and that's why I like got like all those what the hell are this I can't even remember right now

Sunnyum it's some reward for being like the nice person in school and it was by doing good deeds and so that's what I focused on versus focusing on my looks and like my hair I cut it for cancer to make a wig for kids you know so like it

Sunnywas but instead of it being about the looks and be like no you are pretty don't worry about those kids she's like you're she's like enough people are going to tell you you're pretty when you're older so I'm not going to say it to you oh my

Brian AtlasGod who the hell cares I had nothing to do with any of moving on moving on I think you don't go ahead Nick go ahead go ahead Nick save us Nick save us all right we're going to

Brian Atlasmake it bigger please I love this video not us yeah put us on the other side all right this is related to the leading

TTS/Background Voicething go ahead so I want guidance I want leadership but don't just like boss me

TTS/Background Voicearound you know like Lead Me lead me when I'm in the mood to be led so I want

TTS/Background Voiceguidance I want leadership but don't just like boss me around you know like

Brian AtlasLead Me lead me when in the mood to be led so I want guidance I um by the way that should have been in video this guy

Brian Atlasthat's the greatest thing I've ever seen in my life oh it's from the office oh we should have had Andrew's reaction while that was playing uh Andre

Andrew Wilsonyour reaction to that uh he's completely right that's a type of nonsensical thing that uh I hear nonstop all the time especially when we're asking about submission we're

Andrew Wilsonasking about marriage you're wondering why so many of them fail that's that's actually the primary reason is because of the inconsistency in women's ideology and the inconsistency in how they view

Andrew Wilsonrelationships I want to be led when I want to be led I want this when I want that it's like that's not submission that's not marriage it's nonsense I don't know what the hell that is but this is what we hear time and time and time again and it's complete and total

Andrew Wilsonfrom my perview cognitive dissonance of I just don't know what the hell I want and there there's a huge and ample array of studies uh which show that women basically all over the world and

Andrew WilsonI'm going to tell you this right and I'll uh I'll give those to Brian if he wants to show them to anybody basically women everywhere are unhappy and miserable everywhere in the

Andrew Wilsonwhole world they're just never [ __ ] happy it's crazy but when they're pulled right when they they always have a a lesser happiness index no matter where even in the countries where they're

Andrew Wilsonsupposed to be the happiest they're just always [ __ ] miserable and it's because uh I think a lot of this feminism and westernized ideology has been exported and basically women have

Brian Atlasforgotten what their place in the world is and it's not beside a man it's behind him cool do you guys agree or disagree agree disagree thoughts

Aliciaopinions feelings are unhappy I think if you have Jesus you're happy period you're grateful areful every day that he saved your life and you want to spread that to other

Aliciapeople and you are happy if you're not then obviously there's something that you need to work on so I think you're comparing it maybe to I don't know where you get your stats but it's definitely

Andrew Wilsonnot well you can find them over on Rachel Wilson substack she did an entire article on this explaining uh where all of the Christians who have a relationship with Jesus what no he's

Britney Delamorasaying just women in general because of following the feminism mov yeah but even if they identify as being Christians they're still miserable no then there are many there are many right but I mean

Britney Delamorafor me I have had a close relationship to God for 12 years and I've been consecutively like full of joy for the last 12 years like I'm very happy I'm happily married I love my husband I love

Britney Delamoramy children like you know sure I've had Seasons like after giving birth where things were hard but for the most part I've had consecutive joy for 12 years yeah that's that's great I understand

Andrew Wilsonwhat you're saying but this really doesn't address what I'm saying which is that there's many many people who identify as being Christians who are still especially females seem to be

Andrew Wilsonquite miserable yeah right they must not be following him correctly no I mean oh it's because oh it's they had a relationship was no standard a minute ago it's just about your relationship

Britney Delamorawith the lord it's no stand they're not following correct that's so weird yeah I mean met a lot of women in the church who are very unhappy they're negative they're complainers all the things but then when I ask them about

Britney Delamoratheir spiritual walk like they don't read their Bible hardly ever they show up to church um and that's about it so it it's more than that like you should be reading your Bible daily you should be praying and worshiping and spending

Britney Delamoratime with God because the fruit of the spirit is Joy one of the fruits of the spirit is joy and so if you're an unhappy person then what what's going on in your heart that's making you unhappy that you haven't either sought therapy

Andrew Wilsonor allowed Jesus to heal you from therapy is an Elbo red flag you're find this it's called the Paradox of declining female happiness it's fantastic I highly recommend that people

Andrew Wilsonread this so that they understand it um but everything that you just said would still adhere to a you know a standard right so we're talking about a standard so you don't try to make your H wife

Andrew Wilsonhappy cuz she's already miserable no I didn't say that why why how does that even follow can you explain the logic to me I'm going to sit here patiently while you explain how

Andrew Wilsonthat even made you're saying all women are miserable so you don't even have to I don't think he said all women no that's not what I said he he didn't say there is a paradox of the decline of female happiness globally and that

Brian Atlasbasically everywhere you pull them they're less happy than men almost everywhere wait Andrew can I be devil's advocate here you probably hear this rhetoric then how do you explain the

Brian Atlasfact that men are deleting themselves at higher rates if that's true and they're not as honest

Andrew Wilsonokay they both it's true they both actually when it comes to unal living uh women and men are about on par with the attempts it just happens that men are so

Andrew Wilsongood and skilled that basically everything they do that they actually follow through and actually end up with determination whereas women do not cuz they [ __ ] suck at it that's why I

Andrew Wilsonmean I'm not even kidding that's true the attempts made are about equal they just suck at it I have a question for Andrew

Peytonword yeah go ahead what about putting in a tampon what the [ __ ] wait actually you know what that was a joke I'm I'm totally kidding just like are you

Peytontalking about like trans women I mean no but just like trans women was just like are men really better at putting in tampons like trans I think trans women are probably better yeah I'm sure I'm sure that male doctors who are gynecologists probably that's totally a

Brian Atlasjoke though Andrew but you know what a joke back and just that mine was funny but anyway but actually like like trans women or whatever like I think they're kind of

Andrew Wilsonlike a better at a lot of [ __ ] like trans like didn't a trans woman like like I'll give you an example of what you're saying here like what Brian is saying I have yet to find a

Andrew Wilsonskilled pro- feminist female debater anywhere anywhere and I put out the call the biggest platforms you can imagine of Serial

TTS Donation Readerdonated the real feminist message in2 it about anymore why could men be deleting themselves due to this message what is the real feminist

Brian Atlasmessage in 2024 what's it about anymore could men be deleting themselves due to the feminist message h probably that's feminism

Brian Atlasprobably has definitely had an impact on it i' I'd wager I'd say I'd say here while um while we have that up um I'll I'll ask a question related to that kill

Brian Atlasof Serial uh Andrew and baron are Bron who's Bron you I think that's youon what the Yeah Bon all right thank you uh based AF these girls want honesty but

Brian Atlascan't be honest with themselves don't speak on Christianity if you can't tell me a single verse nothing worse hearing of girls talk about what's right and wrong when they sell pcks of their beole

Brian Atlasfor $2 Isaac 1414 thank you man appreciate it Isaac Aron thank you I got out of the industry by the way the show I'm not in

Brian Atlasthe industry which I'm very which I'm very happy about and good for you thank you very happy that that happened Let's uh switch gears here for a little second well actually kill of cereal ask a

Brian Atlasquestion for kill of cereal here do you consider yourself a

Vesperfeminist yes no yeah no no I don't know

Nataliano no you don't know I don't know yeah I get that yeah wait so yes and yes I mean like I definitely have values of a feminist but I wouldn't say like I'm a

Brian Atlashardcore like we'll read it really quick uh Andrew Wilson from Rachel Wilson the wife of Andrew Wilson Andrew's a wonderful husband and he makes me very

Brian Atlashappy but he doesn't suffer nonsense so I don't give him any simple we're glad to hear that you're happy any thoughts ladies any thoughts okay all right she doesn't give him like

Andrew Wilsonreasons to suffer tell them the yeah well well there's nothing worse and the Christians on the panel can tell you that a nagging

Andrew Wilsonwife very biblical right Proverbs 2119 nothing worse nothing worse than a nagging wife Proverbs yeah but anyway uh back to back to this Brian I'm sorry

Brian Atlasdidn't mean d real yeah so uh you're you're feminist you're feminist what so what what do you what does that mean what are we talking about here definitely not like Proclaim like I'm a femin feminist but definitely just

Brian Atlassimilar values yeah such as what are the similar values um like not hating women well okay hold on

Brian Atlassolid but would you agree would you agree that you could be not a feminist or even anti-feminist and love women or not hate

Brian Atlaswomen I haven't like come across an anti-feminist who loves women I think you've you've not come across an anti you do realize men can be feminists women can be feminists and so you've

Brian Atlasnever come across an anti-feminist that does not hate women or wait did I get that mixed up yeah that's what she's saying she's saying that there's nobody she's met who is

Nataliaanti-feminine who's a male who doesn't hate women that's what I got from that is is that incorrect wait now I'm conf no I haven't personally met someone who declares them

Brian Atlasas anti-feminist who loves women yeah that's what I just said right so all the anti-feminists you've met hate

Andrew Wilsonwomen that's B I mean that's basically what you're saying yeah yeah no way but you do do you acknowledge what do you mean in a way is that what you mean or

Brian Atlasnot what you mean yeah that's what I mean okay but you do acknowledge that you can be anti-feminist and also not hate women yes and you can love women but all the

Peytonones you've met happen to have all hated women mhm okay and what about you I don't even think I've really come across someone who proclaims themselves

Peytonas like I'm so anti-feminist like wears it on their forehead like that are any of the girls here anti-feminist youve met one because I'm anti-feminist he's anti-feminist any girls here

Vesperanti-feminist um I don't think I would say I'm anti-feminist I kind of think it's bad for women in a way okay being in the military definitely into mic oh sorry um being in the military and

Aliciaknowing like combat control all these people that do Special Forces like of course women cannot do the same thing that they do period so I don't did you

Britney Delamoraanswer there's no argument did you answer I'm not anti- feminist okay I'm not anti-feminist I mean I'd say like I'm anti-feminist movement because it

Britney Delamorastands for with the abortion movement and all that so like I'm not I'm not pro-abortion and amongst other things well let's just say that feminist ideology didn't have anything to do with

Andrew Wilsonabortion they they went over to the pro-choice side because they thought there wasn't enough women in society for instance would you then support feminist ideals absent abortion no and why not

Britney Delamorawell I definitely don't agree that women are equal to men like I think the original movement might have started off with good intentions like women being able to vote and women you know being

Britney Delamoraable to work but as far as like men and women being equal like I mean my husband can lift a whole lot more than me like we're clearly not equal in that sense yeah well I get it but what about under

Andrew Wilsonthe law should men and women be equal under the law so you have the same rights and privileges as men that would be feminism feminists wouldn't necessarily say that men and women are equal when it comes to strength and when

Andrew Wilsonit comes to physiology they would say that they should be equal and be Equitable under the law

Britney Delamorainstead do you want the answer sorry I I got distracted by the music that was playing so do I no no no hold on let you answer and then um again I'm not fully

Sunnyinformed on this topic so I modern day what we see on social media I'm I'm against that I think it's an absolute war on men I think we need to

Sunnyhave masculine men on society and I think that we should have equal rights but I think we need to stop [ __ ] on men and I'm tired of so if if that's the

Sunnycase yes I'm anti that movement because we need to appreciate that the infrastructure we have that we're saying we don't need men was created by the men and now it's in place now all of a sudden we're saying we don't need these men anymore and that's what I think the

Andrew Wilsonnew modern day feminism is and I don't agree with that it's all feminism all of you guys stated nothing but feminist ideals I haven't actually heard a single ideal out of any of you that's not a feminist

Andrew Wilsonideal including the one that you just stated which is a feminist ideal which is that they should be equal under the law they should be equal there should be Equity between men and women it's just

Andrew Wilsonthat you think that uh women shouldn't be so mean to men because men built the INF structure around Society there's fourth W feminists who bring that up all the time as an argument it's still a feminist ideal feminism is about

Andrew Wilsonegalitarianism that's what it's about it's about egalitarianism and equality between men and women underneath an idealized law which creates Equity between both sexes that's what it

Brian Atlasis for you two who said you were feminists um what so why are you feminist well like are you fighting for

Peytonwomen here okay we'll start with you are you fighting for women's rights basically is that kind of what you're doing um definitely not fighting looking back like I do just like have some

Peytonfeminism values others it's like like I agree with some some of the other ladies like in in the room right now who don't have the exact same opinion on me mhm well what about you had a pretty strong

Nataliaposition on this well now now I'm being persuaded too cuz I think oh we're changing her Andrew you're too powerful no no you're too powerful oh no it's not because of me you just came to it all on

Nataliayour own it had nothing to do with the mean guy in the screen yeah you're right um yeah right sure I believe you

Nataliaum what you were saying I agree with where it's like I don't think it's very productive to be hating on men in order to like for women to gain more power I

Sunnydon't think it's productive at all but this is also but it's also right you want women to gain power I I'm not saying like at this point I don't really

Sunnyknow any rights that women don't have that men don't like if anything I'm thinking that men's getting the [ __ ] end of the stick especially when it comes to child care and I think that men need equal rights when it comes to like

Sunnythat's the point it's supposed to be equal and equal um but at the same time like I agree with you I think it' be stupid to you know draft woman not just because skill-wise I think that there's a lot of things we just don't have the

Sunnysame ability ability to do as men and that's not just physically but it's just emotionally and rationally um so for me like I said this isn't my point of Education this is just from my opinion

Brian Atlasof my understanding what I'm seeing today and that's just that couple questions couple questions here uh for you two you guys say you're feminists uh so can you guys think of are like are

Brian Atlasthere any rights that men have that women don't we'll start there everyone everyone has the same equal rights now yeah okay as far as I'm aware yeah I think my whole thing is

Natalialike I grew up in a very liberal town where it was like like you just kind of had to be Camden I guess sorry Camden no

Nataliano um I I come from Monclair oh okay mhm Jersey Jersey Jersey yeah it's small um so it if like I wasn't a feminist I

Andrew Wilsondon't know what I would be if that makes sense like I don't really have like like that's just all I know I guess and I guess I haven't really educ that actually makes sense um you know what I

Andrew Wilsonmean feminism is basically the air that we breathe and it's the water we swim in whether people know it or not it's ingratiated in society so you may not have any other position other than that

Andrew Wilsonso if you say I really don't know anything besides feminism I believe you thank you it's mainstream do you guys believe in The Patriot but it's still a bad

Brian Atlasposition fine that's fine J is there patriarchy I thought liberals were patriarchy is there a patriarchy I I don't know they they teach this in

Brian Atlascollege don't they they patriarch High School even do you believe in the patriarchy Theory the patriarchy is there a

Nataliapatriarchy yes yes I want to say sure sure sure I I don't know

Nataliaokay all right and what is is that so what is the patriarchy it's patriarchy and like men

Nataliarule right mostly right men rule women drool wait what okay that's no that was my that was my fault uh yeah essentially

Andrew Wilsonessentially I would I would largely agree with that characterization I know it's really hard to come up with a definition on the spot so if you were to Define it as essentially men being in charge I wouldn't fight back against

Nataliathat definition do you think that there is a patriarchy that's bad um not necessarily I mean we don't know anything other than that if we're like talking about like our presidents

Nataliaand stuff right so if they're like leading us it's only no yeah but um

Peytonyeah what's the patriarchy isn't this is like the mainstream feminist thought I mean like yeah like like I would I would want men

Andrew Wilsonto like Take the Lead wait hold wait you want men to take the lead what wait what she's becoming an anti

Peytonwant if you want a patriarchy why would you be a feminist like I said like I'm definitely like she's down for the patriarchy sure I I don't the patriarchy

Andrew Wilsonis based can you say that say it again I'm sorry the patriarchy is based what do you mean it's based based it's awesome okay sure yeah can you say it can you say the patriarchy is

Andrew Wilsonawesome it's not bad it's not bad the patriarchy is awesome that one is for you grid One Motorsports clip it put it on your

Brian AtlasChannel all right there you go there you go um okay um should I just throw this out there uh I I personally think maybe

VesperI'm the only feminist left at this table oh no I think women should be drafted in the military any if you want to bite on that one I don't understand why people don't

Brian Atlastake the stance of no one should be drafted well there's just certain uh geopolitical realities when it comes to Warfare like you can you're never going

Brian Atlasto be able to get rid of the draft because there's some there could be some threat domestic forign foreign un Universal like [ __ ] aliens or some [ __ ] there's not enough people in the

Brian Atlasmilitary already what if there's aliens bro I don't know we're going to have to draft for the aliens I don't know um but yeah you can't they're never going to

Brian Atlasyou can't get rid of the draft just realistically practically speaking but the military has great benefits so we don't have to draft well that's what I was wondering that there's not enough people in the military already no even Donald Trump like I got a full sleeve he

Aliciaeven let us have tattoos like he was trying to make the make military more um chill accepting more chill yes yeah

Brian Atlasokay yeah um but yeah I think don't like you guys so you guys all agree with me like we should we should draft women right don't you guys agree I already did

Brian Atlasmy right sure you guys have no push back do you guys agree do you agree that we should draft women into the military no gez I'm the biggest feminist here what's

Vespergoing on I mean I don't think we should I don't think it would be helpful really no really you mean you guys could like I'm not doing nothing support no way I mean if someone puts me like drafts me

Peytonin the military I'm so sorry I'm running the other way that's it like there's I don't know do you think that do you think that men have a duty to defend you while you sleep using the military and

Andrew Wilsonand if a draft came in do you think that men would be cowards if they did not go to the draft I I get it like I don't want to go to the draft you I wouldn't I don't I don't necessarily think they'd be cowards I would just

Peytonthink of it like simply as like well then who would protect you couldn't tell you I don't I don't know so I mean well this is kind of a

Andrew Wilsonpertinent point if if nobody responds to the draft and you know we have like I don't know an enemy military that wants to invade or do you know horrible

Andrew Wilsonheinous [ __ ] which has happened in the past then who defends you I couldn't tell you I don't know yep just nobody nobody nobody defends you so

Andrew Wilsondo you think that men have a responsibility to show up for the draft if they're drafted to defend the nation to make sure that you're protected yeah yes yes okay well then how come you

Peytondon't I mean if if we have to we have to like again like if men who aren't drafted in the military don't protect us like I don't know who's going to protect us

Andrew Wilsonright so if they have that responsibility and they're cowards if they don't go to the draft right somebody has to go you would prefer that it's them over you right yes it doesn't

Andrew Wilsonsound very equal I I sound like a privilege doesn't it sound like a privilege it definitely is a privilege yes it definitely is a

Andrew Wilsonprivilege so it's like a right that you have that men don't it is yeah yeah so I guess um when you're talking about feminism being part of this equality and uh anti-patriarchy it would appear that

Andrew Wilsonthe patriarchy is necessary because you want them to go and fight Wars on your behalf so that you can sleep at night without uh having any troubles right and you don't want to go fight those Wars right yeah I completely understand what

Peytonyou're saying like Looking Back Now like there's so many other opinions against feminism or maybe just no standpoint for feminism that completely like I'm gaining a new there is a standpoint for

Andrew Wilsonfeminism it's called standpoint Theory and this is the prism from which feminism is viewed standpoint Theory means only from the standpoint of women they actually went through and revised

Andrew Wilsonhistory books so that the history would only reflect the standpoint of women it's called standpoint Theory so there is a standpoint for this I mean just I I

Peytonmeant like not like anything else but just like in the room right right now like I'm just meant like I'm open to everyone's opinions and I am agreeing with like other people's opinions other than mine including yours

Brian Atlasokay honestly I think we should draft women first um you know e like kind of soften up the enemy a bit like soften them up with the women distract them yeah you know what send the only fans

Brian Atlaswomen first and they can like attack nude and then like the the enem is just like Bamboozled oh look some [ __ ] titties and then boom we just [ __ ] dispatch them like the dudes come in and

Brian Atlasyou know like we do like you know the dispatching and [ __ ] you know like dispatching and [ __ ] yeah for sure like that thing dispatching can I ask a question um so when it comes to the

Sunnydrafting like I do know there's a few countries that do Force training though so how do you guys feel about all wom and men being military

Sunnytrained but it doesn't necessarily mean women are being forced the front lines but at least we have for for we have we have the we have because like you know I was very interested in

Sunnyjoining our military but as a field medic because I know my role I can't you know but I do know my skills with medicine and other things that it's like I absolutely want to do my part but I'm not going to be serving him any good if

Sunnylike when he could have somebody who's 6'4 and jacked and name you know versus me uh at the front lines like I'm not actually doing a proper service I should know my place that checked what do you

Aliciaguys feel about like mandatory training women can pull triggers I think it's really awesome Israel does that where they have to go and you train no matter what and I think it gives you an appreciation like me

Aliciabeing in the military really gives you appreciation of your country and it really makes you grow up you leave your house you're what you know and you have to be told what to do like shut up in color and it's a great way to really grow and then on top of that you learn a

Alicialot of skills that you wouldn't in the in the civilian world that would take you a lot long time like the positions they put you in um it's just great learning experience diversity I think if

Aliciathe I think America should do that CU these men these days are a little bit different little bit softer all right F I guess last thing here I'm going to throw this out if any

Brian Atlasof you want to have a little back and forth with me or Andrew on this I don't know I don't know if this is actually Andrew's position but men are speaking of feminism men are and have been more oppressed than

TTS Donation Readerwomen anybody I think I think they like being the leader I think K cereal donated $200 the patriarchy is here to protect

TTS Donation Readeryou with our 15s in the house trucks that don't get stuck in mud homegrown food being drafted drilling the oil for everything in your life and putting away

Aliciadanger what a great Super Chat segue into Brian's point it's wonderful that was great appreciate that killer of the cereal thank you killer of cereal yeah I think men like being the protectors so I don't think it's really like uh

Brian Atlassomething I mean obviously some men don't want to be at all and they're very you know different well my my statement was men are and have been more oppressed

Brian Atlasthan women as it relates to because we're talking about feminism and one of the kind of talking points of feminism is how women throughout history and even

Brian Atlascurrent day are are oppressed and by comparison they're more oppressed than men anybody want to

Sunnybite I can only talk about today and we could we talk about today well yeah so for me again this isn't not my field not my expertise this is just what I see as

Sunnya personal thing is we can talk about how we feel and how we but heaven forbid a man tries to express like hey these are the issues I see with my buddies like mental health is this issue or we and it's like when a guy does good I

Sunnyfeel like they just absolutely get [ __ ] on um so I I like I don't know there's these stupid Instagram posts that I'm seeing where there's one where it's a

Sunnyvoiceover it goes how hard can it be a man does it how hard could it be a man does like that type of stuff like that is so sexist and if a you know if men started posting that we'd be all up in

Sunnyflame so I think there's a very oneway uh algorith because mine doesn't get that it's it's well I'm I'm kind of against that and I think it's because people are like sharing it being like

Sunnyhey have you guys been seeing what's going on right um and just like I've got a younger brother you know and like if I end up having a son like I'm worried because it's like I don't think that they care at all really about men it's all about the pendulum swimming swinging

Sunnytoo far is where I feel like you know we wanted the middle and now we're at this point of like virtue signaling and it's to the point that we have to beat someone down to feel like we are still going up we only care about transgenders

Sunnymostly right now so that's a whole different thing like I didn't that's the emphasis right now in the world that's the okay yeah I know I'm just saying wait you're from Canada right there are you from Canada yeah I'm

Sunnyfrom Canada sense of subject over there um oh no we just we have okay like do you guys talk about as much as Americans uh we're the ones who have like the male

Sunnywoodworking teacher who decides to wear fetish prosthetic breasts into working class that you see like in the fishnet stockings and like they're this big damn

Sunnygiant he is then identifying as a it's totally a fetish but in his outside daily life he's a normal him but demons

Brian Atlasthat's crazy like okay that that's who's the who's the guy who's challenging Trudeau is a poier poier yeah photography for him once in a while we you think you could get him on the show you think you think

Sunnyhe'd come on not no he wouldn't come on the show or you wouldn't be able to you got you gota you gotta message his people um I got M he's doing good he's doing good things over there yeah his his perspective is he he

Brian Atlassticks more with the financial and things like that he doesn't really hit the we have Justin R here um being out of the industry doesn't matter the internet is forever now based on your selfish God to get money fast desires

Andrew Wilsonyou your family and your kids will always be shamed for great to ision yeah this is actually a good point to bring up which is that you know and I don't know why this is not brought up more often so but I do tend to bring it

Andrew Wilsonup quite a bit which is what happens when your kids come over to you and say hey look Mom this is you blowing this guy and uh we have it all on film and this is you blowing this guy and this

Andrew Wilsonguy and this guy also and then all these kids at school are beating me up Mom yeah and that seems that seemed like one of the best arguments against pornography I can ever think of yeah I

Britney Delamoratotally agree honestly I think that uh when I was in the porn industry I really didn't think about the future I honestly didn't care if I lived or got deleted from life like I really hated myself um I was very insecure had a lot of

Britney Delamoraself-inflicting thoughts um so I didn't consider the future and now that I am a wife and a mother that is something that my past has come back to haunt me now that I'm like my husband and I we were um

Britney Delamorapracticing you know no sex before marriage and we were on a date one day and he getss a direct message and somebody sent him a picture of me with another man he'd never even seen me

Britney Delamoranaked I was mortified and so yeah I I think that our decisions definitely have consequences and I'll own up to that um one thing that I'm doing uh with my children is already kind of having like

Britney Delamoraage appropriate conversations my daughter's only four but you know I I often tell her you know Mommy used to make a lot of bad decisions and she doesn't know what that means she goes what did you used to eat like a lot of candy and I'm like like oh kind of worse

Britney Delamorathan that babe like I'm not going to tell her at 4 years old but that is a conversation that my husband and I will have to have with her and I share this in all transparency because th th those

Britney Delamoraseven years that I was in porn I wish that I could give those years back I wish that I didn't go down that path I really do because our our decision put the toothpaste back in the

Andrew Wilsontube right I can't and and I own up to that and I'm not trying to say that what I did you know I'm I'm I'm Nota you I'm not beating you up for it I'm glad that you repented and moved on from it but what I'm saying to you specifically and

Andrew Wilsonit's very important cuz it's it's tying back to our earlier shame conversation is there anything worse that you can think of that would bring shame to your

Andrew Wilsonchildren more than them seeing their mother having sex with men on video could there ever be I can't actually think of anything that would that would make a child more ashamed of their

Britney Delamoraparents than that I can't think of anything the thing I think if you were a serial killer that that would be less shameful to a child than having that happen not really because they wouldn't have their mother in their life she'd be

Andrew Wilsonin prison uh but no it it's definit talking about shame not about outcomes that would still be less shameful I think than if somebody walked over and

Britney Delamorawent hey look I fapped your mom last night like I can't think of anything more like I've been out of the IND I have been out of the industry for 12

Britney Delamorayears okay so it it's been a long time there's a lot of people that you know are out there and and doing their thing but regardless I am teaching my children how to be empathetic so for example we see a homeless person in the store you

Britney Delamoraknow what babe let's go and pay for his groceries I'm teaching my children how to empathize with people so that when that time does come it's like yeah I know my mom did that and that sucks but like I also teach my daughter too four

Britney Delamorayears old this is a great for any parents out there because children are being exposed to porn at the age of 8 years old so what I do I tell I tell my daughter I teach my daughter I'm I'm

Britney Delamorastill on a thought here so just a moment please um I teach my daughter that if anybody ever shows her we got to go bang bang bang you know what I mean if if anybody ever show I taught my daughter

Britney Delamoraif anybody ever shows you an image or a video of anybody that is wearing anything uh less than what you'd see someone wearing at the beach immediately turn away and go and tell an adult

Andrew Wilsonbecause that is not appropriate got it now let me ask you a question let's assume one of my kids is at school and another kid goes over to him and says hey I have a video of your dad smoking

Britney Delamorado you think anybody gives a flying [ __ ] I didn't say that prostitution and smoking are the same thing so are you asking they're not you I didn't I never said that they were I never said that

Aliciathey were go back I think the beautiful thing is God uses all things for good and now she has a testimony and she can help so many women and our goal in life is not to make our kids happy let ask you the you think that when one of your

Andrew Wilsonkids goes over to you and somebody shows them pornography of their mother that they're going to care about that more than their dad smoking a cigarette I just got I've just got to know the point is she now with her testimony she can use that to help so many women and

Andrew Wilsonthat's the reason that we're here on this Earth to help other people it's not to make sure your kids aren't ashamed that's why question life is tough you're going to have people break your heart you're going to have people you know answer my question you think one of my

Andrew Wilsonkids if somebody comes over to one of my kids says look at your Daddy smoking in this video that that's going to be in any way comparable to them going over and say look at my mom giving this guy a

Andrew Wilsonrim job do you think that those are in any way comparable at all no in the carnal worlds carnal answer the question yes think they are you think that's going to

Aliciabring shame to my you know she can help more people going through the IND he is he's smoking going through the industry she can more people than some who hasn't through the industry she can bring more people to God with her testimony we

Aliciastand on the power of Our Testimony and the fact that she did that and now she's living in Purity walking in Purity she can do more than those people who who who have never done only what does that have to do with my question my question

Aliciait doing everything but answering the question the carnal world I just feel like in which what's the other world to everybody else spiritual world in the spiritual World she's able to help so

Brian Atlasmany people with her testimony just like I what I think is what what's worse is the smoking cigarette yeah I'm going to ask you so let me ask hang on hang on don't say anything ask the question and then I'm going to be quiet while you

Andrew Wilsonanswer it please try to answer it directly let me just ask it directly assuming that you and I have a kid in the same school and he walks over and he's like look at your dad he's smoking

Andrew Wilsona cigarette and shows him a video and he says oh yeah well look at your mom she's giving a guy a rim job which one do you think's going to be more embarrassed

AliciaI already said answered that before the rim job yeah okay I just wanted to be clear you but you said in the carnal world that was a side note I

Brian Atlasstill answered it but you said in the carnal world what what what all right here I'm going to move on we have Anonymous wonderful panel today Brian some of these younger ladies are truly open-minded not just to

Sunnywhat they learn from their liberal upbringing but to what life will teach them eventually Canada sucks that's why we're moving to America

Brian AtlasI agree we have things to learn all right we're gonna react to um a thing all right Nick's pulling it up

Brian Atlashere all right so what do you guys think about this uh this is uh you got on the what on the left there an established and complete woman and then a victim of

Brian AtlasFe Jesus wait I don't know what the [ __ ] was that on it's a drawing whatever um no it's all good you guys saw it right yeah you guys

Britney Delamorawhat do you guys think of that agree disagree agree all right okay on to the next thing I guess I was the woman on the right so and now I'm the woman on the

Brian Atlasleft transforms baby there you go there you go uh Zoom it out down one I think there you go uh all right go ahead

Brian Atlasand uh actually yeah full screen it full screen it yeah good go ahead uh beginning start from the beginning please drag it back yeah we basically told a great generation of young women

TTS/Background Voicedon't get married don't have kids go get a corporate job and it's created Mass political hysteria um and then in their early 30s they get really upset because they say you know the boys don't want to date me anymore because they're not at

TTS/Background Voicetheir Prime and people get mad when I say that well this is true if you're in your early 30s I'm sorry it's like you're not as attractive dating pool as you were in the early 20s but again you have your corporate driving cats so I

Brian Atlasthought you you know we Bas basically told so this went viral on Twitter a couple days ago Charlie Kirk he's given a talk uh Charlie who we've had on the

Brian Atlasshow before and he said well women are not in their Prime in their 30s everyone lost their mind over this uh just going around the panel do you guys object to

Brian Atlasthis uh characterization that women are not in their Prime when they're in their 30s 30s is the new 20s

Aliciababy erroneous erroneous no I I think that age all that stuff is just trying to make people feel bad like we're all children of God and

Aliciathat's what he looks at and I think all that other stuff causes depression anxiety puts pressures on people like aging I mean it's a normal fact but our world bases that so much look at the filters we have all this stuff is just

Aliciaartificial at the end of the day we're all dying this this world is temporary so why do we put so much emphasis in all this fake stuff around us you know what that's a very nihilistic approach why

Aliciawouldn't people just un alive themselves then if it's just a temporary temporal you know place to be in well that's what do you mean that's not what the Bible would you're not supposed to un alive

Andrew Wilsonyourself that's what God called you to do wait wait a second wait a second if you're talking to a person who's a secular you're trying to sell them on Christianity and they ask you well wait

Aliciaa second if it's all just a temporal State and it's ultimately meaningless why don't I just off myself you just say meing Purpose with Jesus inside of us we have a great purpose we we're supposed to help people we are not supposed to

Aliciajust say I'm saying on the outward appearance we're so much on the material I'm talking about the soul level that's what really matters nothing about on the outer matters wait you mean like someone's outward physical appearance

Aliciadoesn't matter yeah it doesn't matter like the soul is what matters everybody puts emphasis on on how you look look at the most beautiful people are the most self they hate themselves the most they're the most depressed people most beautiful people in the world but

Brian Atlasbringing it back to Charlie Kirk's video he his basic point was that uh and I this could even be the case for a lot of men too but he was saying that women in their 30s uh I forgot exactly they're not in their Prime so let's assume

Brian Atlasthat's the physical prime they're not as attractive as they were in their 20s um you object to that position I mean I think to each like you know Botox come

Aliciaalong no but I think really to each his own because somebody might not like dating a younger girl who has an experienced life who they can't talk to about things there's a lot of men which is I think disgusting you see these

Aliciaespecially like in Nashville I don't know it's a thing where these older guys are dating these young girls cuz they know us as older women would never hold on hold on hold on what's wrong with

Brian Atlasthat well hold on wait wait wait just young are talking are you talking about adults you're talking about adults though cuz you're saying young girls just be clear here we're talking about

Aliciaadult talking about they're dating they're dating women 18 and up right yeah but somebody who's like a fresh baby and the thing is is all of us 30s look at these men are and they a lot of

Aliciathem have ego issues they're like crazy and we see it but the young girl she she's not developed enough to where she's kind of like deals with it you know when did she get developed

Aliciaenough well honestly God gives you a lot of wisdom and discernment when is that when you deep dive deep with God when you put in 18y old girl have been dive

Aliciadeep with God uh I'm sorry can an 18-year-old girl be dive deep with god oh yeah definitely definitely then what the hell is the problem with that relationship I'm just saying it

Aliciagenerally it's not that kind of relationship most Rel it's a broken girl who's been through a lot of stuff who isn't mature enough and then a broken guy who likes that this girl he

Aliciacan control her things like that that's the modern yeah but you could have that at 22 and 20 you don't need why why would the age Gap make a difference that's normally I mean

Andrew Wilsonnormally from what I see that's what that's what I see yeah but you see that normally among people who are in the same age grouping too it's pretty normal to see broken people get together in the same exact AG is until you put God first

Andrew Wilsonyou're going to make a man Idol and that's what I did for so long and it was one of my biggest regrets because what does that mean make a man an idol you're not making a man an idol because there's an agap that's insane no no I'm just

Aliciasaying if you don't put God first in your life you are going to make a man an your idol if you're 18 you're still discovering life I'm not saying it's not true it can happen people do get married

Aliciayoung but it is weird I don't know where I'm going to I'm going to stop yeah why is it why is it weird it just gives you the ick does it just give you the ick no it's because

Aliciathey're taking advantage cuz as a as a woman I see that these women are very heartbroken and these men are taking advantage of them they might have some father wounds they haven't had time to

Aliciaheal and then they go after them and it I think it's especially when you have a heart of Mercy that's why you never see a narcissist with a narcissist it's always the one there's a sweet one and then the narcissist so well that's funny

Andrew Wilsonin in this particular instance though why do you think that these women aren't just going after these older men because of their resources and because they want to have [ __ ] given to them and rides on airplanes and all this other different

Aliciastuff that you seem to see in these age Gap relationship all the time it's always something deeper CU material things don't really get you that happy so it's coming from somebody who's had yeah they don't but that doesn't mean that women don't like material things

Sunnycuz they sure do like material things security it's being provided for let's have the whole panel react give a reaction to to the video starting with

Peytonyou go ahead what video in question literally

Brian Atlasthe can you replay the video under the AG pull back pull it back up pull it back up just skip to the end part like halfway through video from full screen full

TTS/Background Voicescreen full just play one more time just play one more time go ahead play it play yep go ahead you know the boys don't want to date me anymore because they're not at their Prime and people get mad when I say that well it's just true if you're

TTS/Background Voicein your early 30s I'm sorry it's like you're not as attractive in the dating pool as you were in the early 20s but again you have your corporate job in cats so I thought you you know you can you can pause it uh yeah he's basically saying hey sorry it's true uh when

Peytonyou're in your 30s you're not as attractive as you were when you were in your 20s yeah I mean I agree agree disagree I know some like I I've heard of people say like my 25-year-old body isn't the same as like my 18-year-old body and that's just something you have

Vesperto accept so I I do agree with that video I read somewhere that that man met his wife when she was in her 30s and he was in his 20s I don't think that makes his point but why would why would that

Brian Atlasbe problem saying does um and you're currently in an age Gap relationship correct yes you are 24 17 years 17 years

VesperI remember yeah you're uh you're 24 he's 41 correct okay so wait what's your what's your point that you're trying to make no I was just wondering if anybody else knew that that was true I don't

Andrew Wilsonthink is she older than him or he's like 34 and she let's assume let's assume she's 10 years older than him I don't understand how that affects what he said well I would say that he doesn't believe what he's saying I don't think

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