Alex Stein DESTROYS Whatever Podcast?! 4 Dates In 1 DAY?! HEATED Chivalry Debate! | Dating Talk #266
Date: 2025-10-27
Duration: 8h 38m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_03Paige (Alex's GF)(guest)
SPEAKER_04Marley Jay / Amelia(guest)
SPEAKER_05Jenna (Paris)(guest)
SPEAKER_06Melissa Pereira(guest)
SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_09Alex Stein(guest)
SPEAKER_10Colette Fair(guest)
SPEAKER_11Camila (Cam)(guest)
SPEAKER_12Megan(guest)
SPEAKER_14Taylor(guest)
Key Moments
00:00:13
IntroAll 9 guests + Alex Stein introduce themselves
00:17:48
IntroTaylor (18) introduces herself as helicopter mechanic, surprising the panel
00:58:49
ControversyMegan reveals she cheated on 2nd husband during parole agent academy. 'I'm not a good person.'
01:30:45
QuoteAlex Stein's famous AOC clip: 'my favorite big booty Latina'
01:46:00
Key MomentJenna calls Alex 'cringe,' he fires back: being a porn star with kids is more cringe
02:18:15
Key MomentBrian: if you want me to lead, you need to follow. Being obedient, submissive. Women don't want to do those things anymore.
03:15:00
Key MomentBrian: if I have to die for a woman, the least she can do is obey and be submissive
04:53:00
QuoteMarley states $300K minimum for husband despite not making six figures herself
05:05:00
ControversyAlex presents controversial theory that segregation had positive economic effects for black communities
07:51:05
OtherJenna's porn origin: stumbled into Kink.com at 18, recruited as $1,600 extra while making $9.50/hr studying neuroscience
08:02:38
OtherAlex introduces girlfriend Paige: 26, TCU finance grad, met at OAN
Topics Discussed
00:00:13
Guest Introductions
Diverse panel: Marley Jay (37, holistic wellness/DJ), Amelia (26, OF/macromastia), Colette (52, therapist), Camila (29, aspiring actress), Jenna (31, porn star since 2013), Megan (34, parole agent), Melissa (32, ballroom dancer from Canada), Taylor (18, helicopter mechanic). Alex Stein joins as guest comedian.
00:27:27
Relationship Status Round
Colette married twice. Megan divorced twice, cheated on 2nd husband during academy. Jenna polyamorous with a cop. Discussion of child support/alimony.
01:29:43
Alex Stein Viral Clips
AOC 'big booty Latina' clip, ICE protest, city council. Jenna calls it 'cringe,' Alex fires back about being a porn star mom.
02:11:15
Chivalry Debate
Brian: women must be followers to earn chivalrous treatment. Colette pushes back. Discussion covers paying for dates, sidewalk rule, taking a bullet, submission.
02:21:55
Colette's 4 Dates in 1 Day
Did 15-minute Starbucks meet-ups to efficiently screen online dating matches.
03:35:00
Cultural Appropriation / Dreadlocks
Whether Marley Jay's dreadlocks are cultural appropriation. She explains it's part of her Hebrew heritage.
04:16:10
Self-Ratings / Body Count Reveal
Most give 8s. Jenna rates 4 (bad skin day). Body counts: Marley 11-12, Amelia ~34, Colette 14, Jenna 79, Megan 10+, Melissa 30+, Taylor 1, Alex ~20.
04:50:00
Feminism and Nuclear Family
Alex: society deliberately pits men vs women. Feminism weaponized to destroy nuclear family.
04:52:48
Income Requirements
Marley $300K (most controversial). Amelia $100K. Colette $200K. Jenna $80K. Megan $160K. Melissa ~$14,560. Taylor $100K.
05:03:20
Manifestation Debate
Extended debate on whether manifestation is real. Alex 'manifested' his AOC encounter.
05:17:50
Women's Rights and Oppression
Colette argues women don't have truly equal rights. Brian presents greater male variability hypothesis. Alex says women are somewhat oppressed through abortion encouragement.
06:05:00
Segregation Theory
Alex presents controversial theory that desegregation had unintended negative economic consequences for black communities.
06:45:00
Weight Rejection and Height
Debate over weight rejection hypocrisy with height preferences.
07:51:05
Jenna's Origin Story in Porn
Stumbled into Kink.com at 18 thinking it was Renaissance building. Paid $1,600 first appearance vs $9.50/hr job.
07:57:33
Makeup Removal
Canadian super chatter Pasty George ($3000+ in donations) promises Brian laptop if all women remove makeup. Most comply.
Transcript
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02:58:01
Brian Atlas>> I mean, you have a chatter. >> No, I mean I'm >> you have you have a management who types to your like some dude in Singapore or maybe you interact with the management. Is that what they do? They get hired
02:58:11
Brian Atlasvirtual assistants to do these like you're typing them while Stop. A lot of these uh a lot of these Only Fans girls, you know, the the way they make a lot of
02:58:22
Brian Atlastheir money is having an engagement with their their guys. So, they'll and they'll send messages, but it's not always them. A lot of these girls, especially the the big girls, they have
02:58:34
Brian Atlasnot big like fat like the, you know, with the big followings. Um, they will have like maybe even they're having AI do it at this point, but they'll have a
02:58:44
Brian Atlasperson in [ __ ] Bangladesh or Vietnam or India, some guy who 24/7 they have somebody chatting trying to trying to siphon money from these guys because these guys will send money, money, money. And if they're talking, they
02:58:56
Alex Steinthink they're talking to the girl. >> Yeah. And some of these guys will do full-on romances. >> Yeah, usually it's the boyfriend. Usually it's like the cuck boyfriend will be like doing gay. I mean, it is kind of >> pretending to be girl. That is gay. If you're a guy pretending to be a girl.
02:59:10
Brian AtlasYeah. That's >> it's also forcing the customers into >> being unconentingly gay because they're like >> messaging a guy and jacking it to a guy. >> They're talking to a dude like sexing
02:59:23
Marley Jay / Ameliawith a dude. Like >> that is so messed up. >> It is messed up. I will say for myself, you know, I do have, you know, like 7,500 people following me right now. I have me like intro messages set up and
02:59:37
Marley Jay / Ameliacertain things that you can set up through Only Fans to send out, you know, that are pay things, you know, just let me, you know, so in order for me to really put time and effort into talking to someone, I need to know that they're spending money and they're serious. And
02:59:49
Marley Jay / Ameliathere's a lot of men who just want to see my boobs. So, with Only Fans, it's very easy to set up a way where you can send people initial messages and photos, and if they engage with that, then it's
03:00:00
Marley Jay / Ameliaeasier to then be like, "Okay, I'm going to communicate with this person who's going to be a a money whale for me or whatever." >> You have a team who does that. >> No, I mean, here's the thing. My main guys know we, you know, >> it's you.
03:00:13
Brian Atlas>> No, even I just did a live stream the other night and you know, like I have convers I have conversations with them on Instagram. I'm the one who messaging regardless of what you hold on. Regardless of what you do or don't do,
03:00:24
Brian Atlasby the way, even if a you would have to acknowledge a girl who does have a as as I call them, typers or chatters. >> Even if she has one, she's not going to admit she has one. So, that that could
03:00:35
Brian Atlasbe the case here. Well, of course, why would you admit it, but you do husband did everything. >> Yeah, you you do acknowledge that >> there are chatting.
03:00:45
Marley Jay / AmeliaThere are chatting a I have 50 chatting agencies in my DMs every single day being like, I can make you so much money. Come with me. I've gone to influencer events where the whole
03:00:56
Marley Jay / Ameliainfluencer event is just set up so that management teams can get women from these events and make money off of them and take obscene amounts of money from >> and then they romance scam a lot of these men%
03:01:08
Brian Atlasromance. But yeah, a lot of these OAF girls are like basically duping these men into thinking they're >> they find out they have a husband or something and they'll even most of these OF girls, by the way, they have boyfriends or husband. >> All of them do. Yeah. >> I wouldn't be surprised if you do. So,
03:01:22
Brian Atlasbut >> but so the the quarrel with Only Fans, I get that you do solo content. You're not getting like gangbanged or you're not on like blacked or whatever. Oh god. >> You know, um where you're like sitting on the couch and it's like seven black
03:01:35
Brian Atlasdudes or whatever about to gang bang you. >> I get fine. And I get you're not doing that. That would be worse, right? Some guys might be okay with your level of it. But I I would take it to this other
03:01:46
Brian Atlaslevel of well, okay, you are in you're inducing these men into lust. I'm not even approaching this from like a religious perspective. You're inducing them into lust. There's like men are
03:01:56
Brian Atlaslike jerking off to you. Um you're like wait, and it's actually in some ways the fact that you at least you allege or claim that you don't have an agency. >> It's actually worse. my girlfriend is
03:02:08
Brian Atlas[ __ ] like >> sexing with these dudes in her OFs. It's actually worse from a like a relationship perspective that you're you're the one who's actually talking to the dudes. My girlfriend's like getting
03:02:21
Brian Atlasrandom dudes off and like sending them stuff. >> I think a lot of men don't want this at all in a relationship. Although, I'm sure your DMs are full. I'm sure I'm not saying >> I just don't answer the DMs because like we talked about at the beginning like
03:02:33
Marley Jay / Ameliahow many of these, you know, high-profile men that reach out to me are just sexualizing me, you know? I do want some and that's why I choose to titties single. That's all they want. >> Yeah. No. And so I I choose to be single
03:02:44
Marley Jay / Ameliacuz I would rather >> have my life like that than whatever. >> But uh I don't know how we were >> I just asked like what you know how I should be dating. how like even when it comes to the first couple of dates I
03:02:57
Marley Jay / Ameliamake so much money should I be offering when I know that I want to submit to a man or you know cuz I don't want the twink boyfriend that I call my girlfriend. >> I mean ultimately I think uh I think for
03:03:09
Brian Atlasyou um >> do I have to stop doing what I'm doing to be able to find a relationship or >> is it over just follow the guy's lead? >> Yeah. >> If if he wants to go 50/50 whatever go
03:03:20
Brian Atlas5050. I'm assuming though most states even for you the guy's still gonna pay. >> Yeah. >> What the conversation I'm having here is not I'm speaking um I'm looking at it
03:03:32
Brian Atlasmore bird's eye view perspective. >> Okay. >> I'm looking at it as like I view this I'm looking at it and like that's [ __ ] [ __ ] >> Okay.
03:03:42
Brian Atlas>> But I are men paying for first dates for modern non-trad women all the time. >> Yeah. I totally acknowledge that they even and by the way when I say
03:03:54
Brian Atlas>> women who are like porn stars or who are not ladies when I say they don't deserve it what I say doesn't matter >> because you you could have you could have shot a porno yesterday. >> I did >> you
03:04:07
Brian Atlas>> I did actually >> you you could have shot a porno yesterday. You can find some simper sucker who will pay for your date tonight. You can find a simper sucker who will pay for any date. M.
03:04:19
Brian Atlas>> So there's no dispute that she can find a man who will pay for dates. I'm just looking at it from an outside perspective. Fly on the wall. >> That's a raw deal. >> Yeah, >> raw deal. You should go 50/50. >> Sometimes I do. Sometimes I pay for the
03:04:33
Brian Atlasdate. >> I'm proud. Final couple things here on the chivalry thing, then I'm going to move it on to a different topic. Um, look, I just think um
03:04:42
Brian AtlasI don't know. I think that uh women should embody those traditional qualities if you want to
03:04:53
Brian Atlasuh inspire that behavior in men. And then I I just I guess um I don't know. Men are supposed to be
03:05:02
Brian Atlasthis perfect picture of a male, a knight in shining armor. That's the original chivalry code. Like knights knights, right? Um, and men need to be everything
03:05:14
Colette Fairand more. But again, just what is the expectation on women? Is there any expectations >> that they look good? Yeah. >> I mean, >> but that's a big expectation and it's a
03:05:25
Colette Fairlot of pressure on women. And when we talk about men getting discarded or how hard it is for them to date, if a woman doesn't look hot, she's treated completely differently throughout her life. >> Same for men.
03:05:37
Brian Atlas>> Not with men, actually. I think I think women are way harsher when it comes to looks than men. >> I don't. >> Well, I'll tell here's >> a lot of women like ugly ties. >> Well, here's here's how I know. Well, perhaps it's the case.
03:05:50
Brian Atlas>> Perhaps perhaps it's the case that women are a bit more forgiving on this front. >> And I I would probably grant that to be true. However, if you look at dating apps, for example, or if you look at uh women's assessments of male
03:06:02
Brian Atlasattractiveness, >> you'll have uh and they've done studies on dating apps and they've looked at the data and it's really robust. Like we're looking millions and millions of users.
03:06:13
Brian AtlasUh women will rank like 80% of men as unattract physically unattractive whereas men will like do a more equal distribution in terms of who they will cate in terms of women who they will categorize as attractive. Yeah. And you
03:06:26
Brian Atlasmight say, well, okay, well, women are more invested in making themselves look better, so there's just more better there's better looking women. There's quite a bit of nuance there. >> But I mean, I would say that >> women are really harsh judges
03:06:37
Brian Atlas>> of male attractiveness. And they're actually in addition to that though, which compounds the situation. While women are harsh judges of male attractiveness, they're very generous
03:06:49
Brian Atlasjudges of female attractiveness and their own attractiveness. So women will often rate other women. Like for example, they'll say Lizo's beautiful, but if you tell a woman she
03:07:00
Brian Atlaslooks like Lizo, they'll be offended. You'll do this sort of thing where this sort of thing where oh my god, you look at a woman, you look at like a a girl's Instagram comments and it's like, "Oh my god, you're so beautiful." And it could
03:07:11
Brian Atlasbe like, I'm not trying to be mean, but it could be like an it could be an unattractive woman and, "Oh my god, you're so slay queen. You're beautiful." Blah blah blah. Women gas each other up like that and like men don't really men
03:07:25
Marley Jay / Ameliadon't really do that. >> My comment section is straight up Indian men going show bobs open like please send pics give me your phone number I
03:07:35
Brian Atlaswant to marry you now. Um there's there if I could pull up like you know like a average college girl's Instagram profile and I've I've seen them. I've I pull up an average college girl's Instagram
03:07:47
Brian Atlasprofile. Yeah. >> Like 20 10 of the compliments, 20 of the are compliments from, "Oh my god, you're beautiful. Slay blah blah." All this [ __ ] right?
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Marley Jay / Amelia>> Even if it's like the most >> sexuality, but what women say to each other, young girls, >> to what you said about the dating apps with, you know, like hot guys being in
03:08:07
Marley Jay / Ameliathat 20% getting all the women. Um, dating apps have been made incredibly unfair for most men. If you're not paying the dating app, you're not going to be getting the service you want. And
03:08:19
Marley Jay / Ameliathe dating apps have made it that way so that more men will pay for the premium so that they can send their super likes and they can do this. And you know, it's not just the women only choosing a
03:08:30
Brian Atlascertain demographic of men, but the actual apps themselves trying to Tinder used to be free. Now you can >> I have to cut you off. I need to finish up this conversation on chivalry and
03:08:41
Brian Atlasthen time permitting later on we can talk about paying for dating apps. >> Uh >> I want to open it up to the rest of the panel because it's mostly been YouTube. >> Yeah, we need the Filipina. I want you the spicy Filipina to join in. Why are
03:08:54
Brian Atlasyou so quiet over there? >> You can ask me anything. >> We uh if any of the other women, you've heard this discussion about you know gender roles and chivalry. I guess my final thing is on this and I'll open it
03:09:04
Brian Atlasup to any other women who want to weigh in is that I think I have responsibility in a relationship. >> I need to have authority then. But women
03:09:16
Brian Atlasagain this women want leaders. They don't want to be followers. What gender roles do women have? Part of the bargain, I believe, is if you want me to be a provider and a protector and a leader,
03:09:29
Brian AtlasI need to have authority in my relationship. Women don't want to allow for that sort of authority to exist. Um, you said no.
03:09:40
Brian AtlasLike, let me ask you a question. In your marriage, does somebody have uh veto power? >> I think we both do. If >> Let me let me change it. Who's the tiebreaker?
03:09:51
Brian AtlasI don't think either of us. I think it depends on the situation, but my husband does not have a >> stalemate. Okay. So, what if there's a stalemate? Who gets final say in some decision? >> I think some go his way and some go my way. That's the honest answer. He is not
03:10:06
Alex Steinthe authority. >> But Brian, to be fair, Colette does seem like a type Oh, to She does seem like a type A woman though, right? She doesn't seem like a Sure. >> You know what I mean? I mean, so I could just see like she does seem a little more, you know, uh, >> and what does type A mean to you? more m
03:10:19
Alex Steinyou know not that you're masculine and all but I I don't know how else to describe but you know just a little more type A a little more aggressive like it seems like you can handle yourself more um just because I guess you are a psychiatrist so you know that kind of makes you a leader because you have to
03:10:32
Alex Steinlead couples so it's like you know I feel like you're I don't know lack of a better word a little more masculine even though you're not masculine >> so I hear you like masculine energy I think I'm assertive but I would tell you
03:10:43
Alex Steinand this might surprise you that I do still really value being feminine >> you definitely seem feminine so I'm trying to say you seem trans or anything like that, but you know what I mean? Like you just seem like I was not taking it that way. You're a vocal woman.
03:10:55
Colette Fair>> I am vocal. I am vocal. But I do want to have I want to make my husband happy, too. Like I don't want to rule the roost. I don't want to emasculate my husband. I'm not looking for it to be my way or the highway. I'm not looking for
03:11:06
Colette Fairhim to provide for me or any of those things. But when I hear words like submissive and authority, those for me make me cringe a little. That feels too far for me. I'm not gonna nobody is
03:11:18
Colette Fairgoing to be the authority of me at 52. Now, I will say I was more traditional and submissive when I was younger, but I think culture has changed a lot. I don't My daughters in their 20s are not that
03:11:29
Colette Fairway at all, but they're not looking for like a knight to ride up and save them. They want an equal relationship where they feel respected and valued and seen and heard. And I don't think they're
03:11:41
Colette Fairlooking for like a traditional man to be the leader. They just want like a good dude is going to treat them well. And that's what I want too. >> Yeah. And I think that is, you know, a simple way of putting it, but I want you to comment the Filipina because you just
03:11:54
Brian Atlasgot out of that relationship. So what why why did y'all get out of that relationship? >> Really quick, I'm I'll I'll have her answer your question, but really quick before I have her jump in. You said it's cringe, like obey, submissive.
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Colette Fair>> Yeah. I'm like, yeah, that's cringe. Your job's amazing. Your job's amazing. Submissive. Well, I don't think I don't think that's cringe for a woman to be submissive. I mean, I think there are some
03:12:17
Colette Fair>> It is for me. I'm just speaking for me. The word submissive to me that that makes me feel like I'm losing my power. >> Yes. >> I think the word submissive is very misunderstood. >> Yeah, it is.
03:12:29
Colette Fair>> I mean, it means to submit >> and that's not something that at this stage of my life I am interested in, but I nor do I want my husband to submit to me. We're equal partners coming to the table making decisions. You're not equal partners though.
03:12:43
Brian Atlas>> Why? >> Okay, a couple questions. One, you said for the first few months of dating, he paid for all the dates. Immediately, you're not equal. Second, fair enough. >> Uh, where do you live again? Florida. >> I live in Florida. >> Okay. Do you own a firearm? >> No.
03:12:56
Alex Stein>> Does your husband own a firearm? >> No. >> Uh, somebody Okay, no firearms. That's fine. >> But my ex-husband owned >> So, you do. So, you should There's a lot of people watch your show. You have a bunch of guns. >> Okay. Yes, we have guns. We are stocked
03:13:07
Brian Atlasup. Do not come to my house. So, somebody breaks in, who goes and checks on it? >> Definitely my husband. >> That doesn't sound very equal to me. >> Okay, fair enough.
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Brian Atlas>> So, but the the entailment there, hold on. The entailment there is my husband has to be willing to die. The least then I can get as a man, if I have to be
03:13:27
Brian Atlaswilling to risk my life and die for a woman, the least she can do is obey and be submissive. The way you said that I didn't believe
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Melissa Pereirahow you said me to go or something. You'd be a great pastor. >> A church. I don't know. >> Oh my gosh. Yeah. Like a televised church. >> I think even secular relationships, the woman should be uh submissive. >> Yeah. Can we just Can we have a patio
03:13:51
Brian Atlasand if somebody breaks in, we run out the back door together. I don't want my so sad. >> Perfect test. Perfect test for this. Should your boyfriend or husband be willing to take a bullet for you?
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Marley Jay / AmeliaDid you see that? >> That's kind of a hard one. >> That was a good That was a good >> That is hard. >> I I say no just because. >> Wait, let's let's go around the table. Starting with you. >> So your question is should they be willing or I just expect them to take a
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Marley Jay / Ameliabullet for me? >> Uh both. I I guess I mean >> Well, no, cuz I feel like they should be >> there's their perspective and then my my
03:14:27
Brian Atlas>> Okay. Well, in a scenario where uh one person has to take the bullet, do you take the bullet or should the husband boyfriend >> can't we just go matrix on them and just do >> somebody somebody has to take the bullet?
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Marley Jay / Amelia>> Um I've never thought about that answer or question before and first time >> like I I guess like in that scenario I I don't have an answer for you. How about this? Because it's it's like
03:14:52
Brian Atlas>> if somebody shot at you guys and instead of your husband like >> Alex is my used me as I came in. You guys put me in front of me. >> And I I protected him. I I I grabbed him
03:15:04
Marley Jay / Ameliaand brought him away. >> Let's get the wig for him. >> In your scenario, it's not necessarily they got shot. They're protecting me, right? >> But instead of protecting you, he scampered away out of fear.
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Marley Jay / Amelia>> I mean, if he scampered away, that's not the kind of man I'm I'm going to be attracted to. So, I don't even gives you the echo. I wouldn't say it gives >> quick answers, please. I can get the other girls. >> I can't remember what the scenario was. He's pushing me in front or he's just
03:15:30
Brian Atlasrunning away. >> E, I'm running away. >> He's using you as a boss. >> Well, you can you can either answer the original bullet question. Okay. >> Should he take the bullet or should he like protect you or like would you lose attraction?
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Marley Jay / Amelia>> If if I'm getting shot, I would rather die because if a man takes a bullet for me, I'm going to miss the next. >> He should take a bullet. >> He should love it. Thank you. Simple. >> Yes. >> Yes. What? He should take the bullet. Yeah,
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Jenna (Paris)>> I think it's kind of situational. >> Okay, great. What's the situation? You're >> I don't know. What is the situation? Why are you getting shot? >> I don't know. Break into your house and >> if I'm stupid where I'm not going to run
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Brian Atlasand he runs, that's on me. Like, what? >> I don't know what this Okay, how about this? Um, somebody breaks in and um >> and my boyfriend's a cop. Like, why why are we running? >> Oh my god, bro. You're overthinking this [ __ ] >> What about you're getting jumped on the
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Jenna (Paris)street? >> Getting jumped on the street? to protect you. >> There's one bullet. I I have a child, so I would hope that he maybe he would go and take the bullet. >> So, he dies. Okay. >> Yeah, I guess. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Yes, I would want that, but I would also
03:16:32
Brian Atlastake a bullet for him, >> right? But in this scenario, only one person can take the bullet. I get that you would do it, too, but >> she has kids. >> Who takes it?
03:16:43
Brian Atlas>> The intruder. >> We team up on him. Mr. and Mrs. Smith style. >> But who takes the bullet? >> All right, fine. You win. You uh the guy. the guy. >> Who takes the bullet? >> I would say the guy. >> The guy takes the bullet. So, okay, now
03:16:55
Brian Atlaswe're now we're kind of getting to the the meat and bones here. So, women will even say, you know, I'm kind of traditional or less traditional. >> But when it comes to protection, like if
03:17:05
Brian Atlasfor example, if my girlfriend runs away scared at something, my my like attraction towards her doesn't diminish. Like cowardice in women is not going to
03:17:17
Brian Atlasreally be like there's there's um you can be a coward in other ways like betraying your family in some way. That would be cowardice that might change your assessment of your partner but like
03:17:28
Brian Atlascowardice in terms of like physical violent threat. I'm never going to look at a girl and she screams ah and she freaks out. Don't care. Won't be less attracted to her. If you're with your
03:17:39
Brian Atlasboyfriend and he cowers and he screams and he's a [ __ ] in some uh physical confrontation, violent confrontation, whatever. Maybe he sees a
03:17:49
Alex Steinspider and he screams. You're like, damn, [ __ ] dried up forever from that [ __ ] That's a fact. And I didn't plan this. Babe, come here real quick. She's going to have to make her cameo. Babe, do you know the story that I'm referencing? Come here real quick. Tell
03:18:02
Alex Steinthem the story that just happened that I'm referencing and I have not told you anything that just happened. And how did I react and how did you react >> to what the >> No, to the to the ice at the ice facility.
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Paige (Alex's GF)>> The black dude. >> Oh. Oh, yes. Yes. We >> got We went to the ice facility in Chicago to see if it was actually crazy or not. And there was this black guy that did look a little sketchy. He scared me.
03:18:27
Alex Stein>> And he had said And the guy had said a bunch of inflammatory stuff about Charlie Kirk. >> Yes. and he had reached in his pocket and I got scared and took a step back and out. >> He acted like it was a gun. Like we have it on camera. I don't I mean I didn't even post that part, but he's like
03:18:39
Alex Steinfiddling around and he was definitely pretending like it was a gun. I'm not even kidding. >> And he noticed that. I had noticed that. He's like, "Oh, don't worry. It's not." >> She started she as soon as he started like fiddling around cuz him and I argue all of a sudden he's like reaches in her thing. You're going to think it's fake.
03:18:53
Alex SteinThis is real. He reaches in like this and then she starts scampering away. I get closer to the guy cuz I think if he's about to pull a gun, I'm about to just jump him, you know? I mean, I don't have a choice. Um, and so I stayed right there in the situation and she ran away and he's like, "Oh, you don't need to
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Paige (Alex's GF)run. It's not a gun." So, I mean, I do feel like in that situation, yeah, I would have taken a bullet. So, >> I thought that Alex was talking about the cockroach thing cuz I'm terrified of bugs and he always he like kills him no problem, but I like want to start crying
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Paige (Alex's GF)if I see a >> cockroach or anything. >> That happened the other day. That's why I was like, "Wait, the cockroach thing?" >> Thank you for making an appearance. >> Thank you. Yeah. But to that point, I guess to finish off there is
03:19:30
Brian Atlaswhen we're making assessments of partners, like a a woman who's gets scared or fearful in this sort of situation really isn't going to have some sort of negative consequence or negative impact on the relationship, but
03:19:43
Brian Atlasa woman witnesses her boyfriend or husband >> be a coward in the s, it's like devastating. The relationship's [ __ ] over. Relationship's over. I've heard stories like a girl sees her boyfriend
03:19:54
Brian Atlasget beat up and I mean it depends on the circumstances but like he's just I don't know gets his [ __ ] rocked and it's like she loses attraction for him whether consciously or subconsciously this does
03:20:05
Brian Atlashappen. Um and I guess what I'm trying to say here is that there is then an expectation here actually one more question to really nail the point home. Uh the sidewalk rule, chivalry.
03:20:16
Brian Atlas>> Should the man walk uh closer? It if you're walking along a sidewalk, should he walk closer to the road, the street? >> You know that thing like >> Oh, yeah. I prefer that. >> Me? Yes.
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Marley Jay / Amelia>> Obviously. >> So, I mean, look, yes. Do you What about you? >> I didn't even know it was a thing until it was pointed out to me. Yes, because it makes physically I I don't have a preference, but I have noticed most men do have that preference and it makes
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Marley Jay / Ameliathem feel more confident about >> they'll put you on the >> I I have been on the outside of the sidewalk and they have been like you need to switch and I was like I do and then cuz I don't think that way but men
03:20:54
Marley Jay / Ameliathey and that's what I was alluding to is that a lot of times like a man running away from a bullet to me that comments on the type of leadership he carries. >> Okay. I would say I prefer a man to have
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Marley Jay / Ameliame on the inside. Uh when I'm with a man, I want to turn my brain off so if they're on the other side, they can see if a car is about to hit us, >> right? What? Go ahead. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Yep. You want the guy to observe the sidewalk rule. What about you?
03:21:18
Jenna (Paris)>> I also think this applies to like children, too. Like even whenever I'm just out with my child, I always put her on the inside. So I guess maybe >> So are women children? >> No, but I mean >> whoever the
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Brian Atlas>> But you put your children on the inside. Whoever the protector is, like that's who should be on the outside, >> right? Your thoughts? >> Yeah. >> Yep. Sidewalk rule. Sidewalk. So, what's so interesting to me is you have an
03:21:41
Brian Atlasissue with submissive obey. But a lot of these things we just we just sort of take them for granted. >> The bullet thing, the, you know, the the guy running away thing, the sidewalk
03:21:53
Brian Atlasrule thing. The ultimate manifestation of a man protecting you is to die for you. Women expect men to to I I know it's rare, but the expectation is there.
03:22:04
Brian AtlasWhether consciously or subconsciously, you want men to [ __ ] give their life and die for you. >> You better [ __ ] obey me. >> You better be submissive. If I have to [ __ ] die for you, you better [ __ ]
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Brian Atlasbe >> You better obey. You better be submissive. [ __ ] You can't nag me. You can't nag me. You can't uh >> [ __ ] I don't know. No, but the goal is
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Marley Jay / Ameliajust to find a man that I feel like I can listen to him and I can trust cuz there's so many men like >> it's the men man you pick you should listen if you pick him you listen to >> you listen to him like so if he
03:22:40
Colette Fairdisagrees with what you want to do in your life you should obey that. >> But why did you pick him if he disagrees? >> Well because life is a man's duty to
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Marley Jay / Ameliagive his Wait, hold on. Is it a man's duty to give his wife everything that she wants? >> No. But I do think it's a woman's duty to pick a man that she will be happy with. Cuz ultimately the woman gets to
03:23:02
Marley Jay / Ameliadecide whether or not to be in a relationship. So if you're picking a man and he has a lot of values that don't align with you, why did you pick that? >> But should a man fit her whims? >> No, but she should pick a man that that
03:23:14
Marley Jay / Ameliasupports how she feels, you know, like I'm not I'm not going to submit to a man whose views I do not align with. Um and that and that's just that like why should I, you know? >> Should a man be obedient to his wife? No, I don't think anyone should be
03:23:27
Brian Atlasobedient. I don't like the language obedience in a relationship. Then you guys rewire your biology and start being attracted to cowardice in men and start being attracted to men who would never
03:23:37
Brian Atlasprotect you. You know what? How about this? I want my woman to I think my life is more valuable. No offense. I want my woman to walk on closer to the road so
03:23:48
Brian Atlaswhen a [ __ ] uh I don't know a Ford Bronco comes barreling down the [ __ ] street, >> she can be my meat shield, throw her into the [ __ ] car, she can be my meat
03:23:59
Brian Atlasshield and I get to survive and I then get to Most of these women, by the way, when their boyfriend dies from a Ford Bronco, they're back on Tinder within a week. They're [ __ ] another guy within two weeks. It's ridiculous. You're
03:24:11
Brian Atlasyou're you're on Tinder secretly. You're on Tinder lowkey like this. You're at the [ __ ] funeral. You're downloading Hinge. You're downloading. You're They're on their [ __ ] phones. You're on [ __ ] Craigslist. And
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Marley Jay / Amelia>> okay, but if your girlfriend's on the outside of the sidewalk, does she have to obey you? If she's the meat shield, does she have to obey you? >> Exactly. >> Well, I have a very sexist perspective. >> You're saying, what do you think about
03:24:36
Marley Jay / Ameliamen who are not dating women who do that innately? Because there are a lot of men who are like I'm not dating and I in my circles we call each other brethren and
03:24:45
Brian Atlassister and they brethren and sister >> brein. How do you spell that? >> Anyway, it doesn't matter. But my point being is that there's >> Yeah, I know what it is. It sounds like a cult kind of
03:24:58
Marley Jay / Amelia>> but it's not. >> Lord of the Rings here. Get me some Hobbits. My point being is that a lot of men do that for women they are not romantically invested with because it's just something culturally that a lot of
03:25:08
Marley Jay / Ameliathem are taught at a very young age. >> I get it. But it's like why >> why are women being held accountable for something that you're teaching men when they're young? >> Mhm. It's a society thing that we need
03:25:20
Brian Atlasto like >> and society condition. Actually, you know what? I I understand that there there is this sort of societal expectation that men do these acts even for women that aren't their girlfriend
03:25:32
Brian Atlasor wives. >> I think that that's ridiculous. This idea, maybe, you know, Alex might disagree with me on this. Like I personally think like maybe this is a really precise example. If you're out
03:25:43
Brian Atlaswith your girlfriend or your wife and some shit's going down, uh, you know, and you see a woman over there being
03:25:53
Brian Atlaslike, uh, harassed by some homeless dude on the subway, me personally, I got to consider protecting myself and my wife >> and well, if your kids are around, I'm
03:26:03
Brian Atlasnot going to go be the hero and like go get [ __ ] shanked by this homeless guy who it means nothing to him. I'm going to extract myself, my wife, and my kids
03:26:15
Marley Jay / Ameliafrom the situation. I'm going to protect those people who are important to me. But I get I don't know if that's even >> But maybe someone who doesn't have as much of of that kind of responsibility, they might try to diffuse the situation
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Alex Steinat this point. Even women at this point, >> but Brian, do you think men and women are equal? Cuz like I think they're just not. And and the reason why I bring this up is that well this is why I look at the uh the trans you were talking about that video I was talking about the
03:26:39
Alex Steintransgender bathroom bill and the only reason I bring it up is not even to get political because it's an asymmetrical problem is that it's only men going into women's spaces cuz a man doesn't care if like a twink that's dressed like a guy comes in our space that doesn't make us
03:26:51
Alex Steinfeel uncomfortable. You know like some girl dress like a guy but a guy and a girl's dress does make them feel uncomfortable. So it's like we're just we're just two different people. Like the idea of equality is impossible.
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Colette Fair>> 100%. I agree with the predators. Women are the prey. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's so much violence against women. It's insane, you guys. >> We have a couple chats we need to let
03:27:15
Brian Atlasthrough. I Some of these came Oh my I need to apologize to these guys. They came in a while ago. >> Message from the government. >> I'm sorry. I missed the George. >> George, I apologize. They're coming.
03:27:27
SPEAKER_00many indigenous tribes in olden days. The men protected, built, and hunted. The women maintained the camps, cared for the children, and cooked the food.
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Alex SteinBoth knew their duties and never complained. >> Well, that's kind of what I was saying though, uh, Pasty is like because the women stayed at home, they kind of ran the whole >> Yeah, the home. >> They kind of ran everything back then.
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SPEAKER_00>> It's like a whole >> We have Adzills here. Thank you, Pasty. Sorry for the delay. Ad, sorry for the delay. $200. >> I'm sorry, guys. >> Chair three out here saying men hard on women, please. Of course, that comes
03:28:04
Alex Steinfrom a woman. It's that time again. What is everyone's favorite Michael Jackson song? >> I love Michael Jackson. You know, that's one conspiracy. I don't know how deep you guys are into conspiracies, but there's a documentary called Leaving Neverland, and it was about this guy
03:28:17
Alex SteinWade Robinson and James Safechuck who both said that they were molested by Michael Jackson. And one thing I want to say, I'm a big Michael Jackson truther. He was killed by Conrad Murray. That's a doctor that went to jail. But Michael Jackson was investigated for 19 years, never convicted by the FBI. And the guy
03:28:29
Alex Steinthat was in the documentary that said that he was molested by Michael Jackson was the lead character witness not once but twice defending Michael Jackson saying that he was never molested. And I know you're going to be like, well, what kind of old guy sleeps with young kids. First of all, he had arrested Velment.
03:28:42
Alex SteinHe was, you know, became an adult at a very young age. And he did sleep in that room with McCauley Kulkin and Cory Feldman and both said that they were never sexually molested. So my point is I don't think Michael Jackson was a pedophile. And I'm uh I will take that
03:28:54
Taylorto my gra. I agree with you. >> I actually I actually did a report on Michael Jackson in like seventh grade and all that stuff. And how >> he spent millions of dollars helping kids in Africa, too. He actually loved children.
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Brian Atlas>> I mean, they they were just looking for money, these people. He was pretty I actually have an anecdote. I actually went to Neverland Ranch when I was a kid. >> 12 >> and I met Michael. >> Not cool. >> You met Michael Jackson?
03:29:19
Alex Stein>> Yeah, I met Michael Jackson. >> Okay, time out cuz cuz I love I'm not just saying this because I love Michael. I think he's one of the greatest pop stars of all time. Um, and I actually was going to dress up as Michael Jackson, go to the no Kings protest and be like, I'm the king of pop, but I
03:29:31
Alex Steindidn't. Now I should have now hearing you guys laugh about it. But you met him. This is what they say. One of the guys that said that he was molested was a kid that before they said they got molested by him, said that Michael Jackson cured their cancer. This, you
03:29:44
Alex Steincan look it up. There's a documentary that debunks all this. You can look all this up. I'm not making up. I know it sounds farfetched, but they do say that Michael Jackson had this aura, Brian, that like if you just like touched him or got near him. >> Did you feel that aura? They say that
03:29:57
Alex Steinthis is what like just normal people said that Michael Jackson had a special aura around him. Did he have >> I do think there is something like famous people have this. >> Yeah, but they say he had it. I know it like Yeah. They say Michael Jackson like could cure cancer with his aura. I'm not
03:30:10
Brian Atlassaying it was like that, but you know what I mean? Like that's like that's the vibe that he had. You know, >> massive aura. Big aura. Huge aura. One of the biggest. >> One of the biggest. No, he was cool and he was I mean I met him for 10 seconds, you know.
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Brian Atlas>> Did he molest you? >> No. No. No. >> 10 seconds. That's fast. >> You wanted him to though. >> What the [ __ ] >> What's that Dave Chappelle joke where it's like >> why didn't he molest me? >> A lot of people >> and it wasn't by the king of pop.
03:30:35
SPEAKER_00Anyways, uh okay. Dark humor there. We have uh George again. >> A message from the government of Canada. >> Thank you, man. >> Pasty George donated $2004.
03:30:46
SPEAKER_00care. Two, smart, self-respectful men will avoid women like you like the plague. >> However, many simps in the world will date and even marry you. At least you have that to look forward to.
03:30:58
Alex Stein>> And you know how that's true or I know you want to respond to that, but if you guys ever watch the show My 600 lb Life, if you guys ever seen that show, >> they always have a boyfriend or girlfriend. It doesn't matter how fat and disgusting they are. So, that is one good thing for you ladies here. And I'm
03:31:10
Alex Steinnot saying you guys are fat and disgusting, but that if those ugly gargles Yeah. There's always going to be somebody. I understand how it's so hard to find a man. >> Oh, keep going. Keep going. >> Well, I was just saying if you see the My 600 pound life, it's where there's a
03:31:22
Alex Steinguy or girl, they always seem to have a significant other. So, it's like you if you if you really are trying to find a significant other, I think it is obviously possible if they can do it. >> Like we've talked about, I have so many conversations with my simps online that
03:31:35
Brian AtlasI think that that is enough for me and I don't need to marry a simp. >> Uh, Adzills, we're going to pull it right back up. Sorry for the delay on these guy. Pacy George, I have the the the cell phone here and I still messed it up. My bad.
03:31:46
SPEAKER_00>> Azil's donated $200. I stand by what I said, but chair three seems based. Respect. Chair two is full
03:31:55
SPEAKER_00of waffle. Talking talking. Chair one, love the orange shirt. Feel bad for you being sat next to that. >> Oh [ __ ] >> What does waffle mean? I don't have an
03:32:07
Marley Jay / Ameliaissue. Um >> Oh yeah, I saw someone said it was smelly. They don't. Do you think they smell? Tell me. >> How long have you had dreads for? >> I am in my 12th years of having locks. >> Dang. Okay. >> Yeah. So, and everyone's entitled to
03:32:20
Alex Steintheir opinion, and I know it's offensive to some people, and that's fine. What does waffling mean? >> Wait, wait. Waffling is like kind of changing your opinion. >> Oh, >> waffling like maybe you're like kind of saying that you're only anti- Only fans, but then at the same time, you're like a
03:32:33
SPEAKER_00big Only fan. >> I I kind of am low-key anti- Only fans. I started it because to empower myself because my nudes had been doxed online and so I >> and make money. Yeah. But wait, I want to go back to >> $200. >> We'll just finish these up and we'll
03:32:46
SPEAKER_00come back to it. >> I take it back. Share three. You ruined it. You never should have spoken on the submission talk. More waffling. Brian, is anyone on a yellow card? #
03:32:58
Brian Atlasfreeelicity #ichelisk. >> No yellow cards. Uh oh. Favorite song from M >> Place with no name. >> Just shout it out if you want. >> A man in the mirror. >> Billy Jean. Sure, why not Billy Jeene?
03:33:12
SPEAKER_00>> Billy Jean. >> They don't care about us. >> All right. >> Thriller was always >> Earth song. That was >> pasty George donated $200. >> Thank you, man. >> Many women say what they want in a
03:33:23
SPEAKER_00relationship or how they would like it to be, but this means they want it their way. But what about what the men want?
03:33:30
SPEAKER_00Why are men's wants stigmatized? Why are men's wants stigmatized? >> Definitely not the best one to respond to that one.
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Marley Jay / Amelia>> You're not the best one. >> No, cuz I think their wants are valid. Yeah. Especially when I want to be a more submissive kind of traditional girlfriend. Like if they want me to be attractive, if you know, if they want me to cook, if they want me to do this, I don't think that that is asking too
03:33:57
SPEAKER_00much. >> Sure. Adzil's donated $200. Michael is the most famous person after priced. Statistical fact actually. Big ups for the prop.
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Alex Stein>> You really like Michael Jackson. >> Really? >> You're a big MJ MJ fan. >> MJ rules. >> All right. Adels. >> He's a global phenomenon. >> But but I want to go back to what you were saying though about how people say sometimes your hair is racist and then
03:34:23
Marley Jay / Amelia>> No, I didn't say that. Don't put words in my mouth. Okay. I said sometimes people are triggered or they don't >> offended. Yeah. >> They're offended by it thinking. >> Okay. So, you said people find it offensive. I called it racist. >> I mean, I find lots of things offensive.
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Alex SteinOkay. >> But do I make that a big deal? No. >> I don't think it is offensive for you to have that. So, I'm on your side, but you're making me not on your side. My point is I want to ask the one African-American Filipino chick, is that
03:34:48
Alex Steincultural appropriation or her wearing her hair like that? Because she has faced scrutiny. Is that is it fair for me to say you haven't been scrutinized at least for that >> from people I do not know. Yes. But it's
03:34:59
Marley Jay / Amelianever from never from people. Um most of the time it's from >> I hate this talk. Um so most of the time it is white people that have an issue with it. And I would say it's people who
03:35:10
Marley Jay / Ameliaare pro probably >> less educated about the reasonings of why people wear locks. >> Is it racist? >> I'm going to state my own personal opinion. And you look great. I don't want you to feel like
03:35:23
Camila (Cam)>> and you're entitled to your opinion. I I'm not offended. >> So for me, I don't have an issue with anyone wearing any type of style of hair. Truthfully, like I've seen, you know, different races pull different styles, different braids, different
03:35:36
Camila (Cam)dreads, different locks. This is my thing as being, you know, the only African-American on the panel is that you do need to know and educate yourself on where it stems from and where it comes from and to respect the culture.
03:35:48
Camila (Cam)What are the what is the uh uh >> so basically from what I've learned from you know people in my family and just people before me that a lot of
03:35:57
Camila (Cam)>> certain hairstyles were in rooted in slave runaway um routes. So when people were enslaved they would braid their hairs or have their braiders braid their
03:36:08
Camila (Cam)hair a certain style so that they knew how to escape whatever you know >> they were maps. >> Yes. Exactly. Like maps. And so again, like I don't have an issue. People want to style their hair all types of ways.
03:36:20
Camila (Cam)Like it's hair, you know, hair is beautiful. I do my hair all types of different. I'm half Asian. I'm half black. So some days I feel like wearing my hair curly. Some days I wear, you know, feel like wearing it straight. I
03:36:31
Camila (Cam)think you just people that aren't of that community or of that specific ethnic group. You just have to be mindful of, you know, what message you're trying to send out and at least
03:36:43
Camila (Cam)educate yourself and educate others. If you mean well by wearing a certain hairstyle, that's totally fine. But if you're, you know, again, it's just a hairstyle. If people find offense to it, that's them. But for me personally, yeah.
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Alex Stein>> But to be fair though, can somebody like could a white supremacist wear dreadlocks racistly? >> Yeah. Because if you don't like African-Americans or why would you want to wear dreadlocks? >> I know. But that's what I'm saying. Like if you're >> That's like somebody saying, "I don't
03:37:09
Alex Steinlike I don't like Asian people, but I'm going to eat sushi and I'm going to listen to you can't do that. You can't. >> So, wouldn't that mean they like Asian people though, right? Like I'm saying like even if you said a guy's a white supremacist, a white guy that uses the nword, you're going to be like, "Oh, he
03:37:22
Camila (Cam)hates black people." But if he's adopting black culture, wouldn't that make him not racist? >> No, because you can like No, I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. >> But this is my thing. If >> Cuz if he was racist, you be like, I
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Camila (Cam)don't want that black hairstyle. You know, obviously he's trying to take >> You're racist if you oppress a certain type of people. That's what makes you racist. Being having different perspectives and opinions, that doesn't necessarily make you racist.
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Camila (Cam)>> I agree. >> Being racist is oppressing a certain group. And it doesn't have to be just black people. It could be Middle Eastern. It could be Asian. It could be Jewish people. Jewish people get oppressed. You know, we all get oppressed in different ways. Every
03:37:58
Camila (Cam)single person on this planet has faced some sort of racism. I'm sure all of us have been, you know, you get put in a category, you get put in a group, and if you don't like people because of their skin or their culture or where they come
03:38:11
Alex Steinfrom, that does make you racist. >> Well, well, one of the the guys who comes on the show a lot, Andrew Wilson, him and I, he's obviously a well-known debater. Him and I have actually debated this topic, systemic racism. And I believe in systemic racism, even though
03:38:23
Alex SteinI'm conservative. A lot of conservatives would disagree with that because I do believe in the ' 60s and ' 70s, obviously, there was laws that were racist towards black people, but now I believe laws are racist towards white people. when it comes to DEI that if you're a white person, you have to have
03:38:35
Alex Steina higher test score to get into medical school than a certain other race. And then you see other people lying on their college exam saying they're black when they're really not to try to get in. I'm saying so people cheating it. So I feel like this system is racist towards white
03:38:48
Alex Steinpeople. And that's why I'm more empathetic to African-Americans than black people because we do have a system that I believe is racist. So and it just kind of switches. Once again, I do believe that our system, even though it does happen to
03:38:59
Alex Steinraces, it attacks the most marginalized people, the people that are the most vulnerable, you know. So, that's kind of why black people and now you're like, "White men are vulnerable." But it sounds crazy, but in this day and age, the global population of white people is
03:39:11
Alex Steinless than 8%. So, actually, like at the global scale, white people are marginalized, even though the highest population of America, but people don't have that perspective. You know what I mean? Like a black person from America wouldn't have the perspective that whites are the minority in the overall scheme of things. So,
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Marley Jay / Amelia>> Mhm. >> Yeah. I believe in racism and systemic racism and a lot of conservatives disagree with me on that. So, >> um I did want to say one more thing while we're on that subject because I
03:39:35
Marley Jay / Ameliavery much was aware that it would be a topic tonight. So, I when I first started my locks journey, I was living in Hawaii. My hair started naturally doing it. I had already wanted to do it
03:39:45
Marley Jay / Ameliafor about three years and I was like this is a sign I should I should just experiment. So I started experimenting just I just braided my hair and then because of the humidity where I was living I was living in Hilo it just
03:39:57
Marley Jay / Ameliastarted to naturally dread and I wanted them so I didn't stop it and then at a certain point you really can't go back without cutting them off and for the first few years I really am very
03:40:10
Marley Jay / Ameliasympathetic to that argument because I do think a lot of people do it for trends and I'm not talking about like um any certain skin color I'm just talking about like I think it was like three years ago, it was very in trend for
03:40:22
Marley Jay / Ameliapeople of many different cultures to wear them. For me personally, because I've worn them for so long, I've heard every single thing that you could possibly think of thrown at me. And I just kind of roll with it because it
03:40:34
Marley Jay / Ameliadoesn't mean anything to me. It's part of my own self journey. And I don't really care how people feel about it as long as people like yourself aren't actually offended by it. And I'm telling
03:40:44
Marley Jay / Ameliayou, it's never the I it's never people I'm expecting to that seemed offended. The people who come up and touch my hair, they're older white ladies always, 100% of the time. And >> what do they say? Like
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Marley Jay / Amelia>> it makes me uncomfortable, which I think is good because now I know what that experience is like because it's not doesn't matter what race you're from, you shouldn't be touching people without permission. >> But what are they saying? Like you should be black. Like what are they?
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Marley Jay / Amelia>> No, no, no. They go, "How interesting." >> Something like that. Something very passive aggressive that doesn't sound bad, but it's like what do you Okay. >> What do you mean by don't think anything of it? because usually they're over a
03:41:19
Marley Jay / Ameliacertain age and I get it. It was very different 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago and like I said, it's part of my journey of who I am. So, I'm not I don't know. I'm just not consumed with it. I'm sorry if it offends people. Like,
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Alex Stein>> I would argue that you should be unapologetic about it because if your intentions aren't racist, why would you why do you feel >> a spiritual journey and if you know >> I don't like that you feel guilty at all. Like, I don't think you should >> I don't feel guilty about it. I just
03:41:43
Marley Jay / Ameliafeel bad that so many people feel such a a negative way about it because to me like wearing my hair this way has a lot to do with my spiritual identity. It goes back to my heritage. I'm half Hebrew on one side. So
03:41:56
Marley Jay / Amelia>> at one point historically Hebrew people wore their hair that way. >> So it goes all the way back to I believe India Vic culture the brahinss they all locked their hair and they brought that to the rest of the world through different various ways of movement that
03:42:09
Marley Jay / Ameliadoesn't need to be discussed right now. But the point being is that it's not just one place that it came from. It was an evolvement. And then I think when certain parties decide that they are
03:42:22
Marley Jay / Amelialike-minded, they might choose to wear their hair that way, but it's not necessarily a cultural, racial, or even a social discussion. It has most of the people that I know that wear locks. It has to do with their spiritual journey,
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Marley Jay / Ameliaand that's cross race. >> Have you dated a black guy before? I've dated every race that you could probably think of. >> But like more black guys. >> I would say my longest relationship that I told you about was with a white guy and that was eight and a half years. The
03:42:48
Marley Jay / Amelialongest relationship I've had with a black man was um I want to say 8 months to a year. I that's the only long long relationship I've had is that >> you're definitely not racist. So >> I I grew up in California. So I feel
03:43:01
Marley Jay / Amelialike Californians, we do openly talk about these subjects from time to time and so that makes it a little bit easier to come to an understanding between individuals.
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Marley Jay / Amelia>> There's a chat coming through, a little vulgar, but I'll have you read it. >> Chair number two, get your nasty tits off the table, hanging down to your
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Marley Jay / Ameliaknees, your nasty [ __ ] I'm sorry, how do I say your last name? Steinid. Tear these idiots apart. Please. BB. Is that a reverse BBL? Cuz I definitely don't have a butt.
03:43:34
Alex Stein>> No. Big Booty Latinas. >> Oh, you you put a little flare around. >> Big booty Latinas. >> Latino accent. >> You got to have a little Spanish.
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Marley Jay / Amelia>> Oh, you have to have a little Spanish flare. You know, Big Booty Latinas, you know. >> If everybody wants to tip $200 and roast me, I'm totally fine with that. At the end of the last one that I was on, I was like, "Please roast me. I love it."
03:43:58
Brian Atlas>> She enjoys I do. I do enjoy it. >> She likes the roasts. She enjoys the roast. >> It used to make me cry. Now I'm just happy. >> Now she's a she's a trooper. Um >> did I I did you have another question for her or was that it? The
03:44:10
Alex Stein>> Well, no, but I I do want to talk to the Filipino more because you know I mean you are a multicultural representation that we don't have on the panel. >> Not diverse enough for you. >> It's not. No, cuz I like Big Buddha
03:44:22
Alex SteinLatina. So I'll take I'll take a spicy Filipina as a substitute. And I want to see a little spiciness because I know Filipino women like to talk [ __ ] and I haven't heard you say a damn thing. And I'm guessing I'm guessing though, Brian, and I don't know this. I'm speculating
03:44:35
Alex Steincuz I don't know you that that well. You came here. You're kind of talking about that relationship about how you're so happy to be single, but and I'm not trying to take a shot. I don't think you're that happy to be single. I think you're probably going through a transitional phase like anybody out of a
03:44:47
Alex Steinbreakup. And after two months, if it was serious, it's almost impossible to not have feel some sort of way. You know what I mean? Because it's that fresh. >> No, I'm going to be honest. Of course, I have my moments of being sad and, you
03:44:58
Camila (Cam)know, just feeling like lonely. But when I say that I'm happy, I feel like when I was in that relationship, at least with this particular individual, it took so
03:45:08
Camila (Cam)much of my time and energy because >> I mean, any relationship takes time and energy. Let's just be upfront and real about it. It's not just romance, you know, friendship, relationships with family members, people, the people you
03:45:20
Camila (Cam)work with. When you indulge in another human being, you're giving that person and the other person on the other side your time, your energy, your thoughts. It's like a full-time job. And you know,
03:45:30
Camila (Cam)that's a real thing. And for me, when I let go of this particular person, I felt at least in these past two months, okay, what does Camila want? You know, what do I want to do with my life? Where do I
03:45:42
Camila (Cam)want to go from this point on? You know, I now feel like I have a lot more time to focus on my career, where I want to go, what countries I want to visit, and not have to focus on arguing and just
03:45:54
Camila (Cam)differences. It becomes a lot. And it's to the point where sometimes relationships can consume who you are as a person where you lose yourself and you start forgetting your mission and your
03:46:06
Camila (Cam)purpose in this life sometimes. And I'm not saying all relationships do this. issues with him because it was so much and it started to feel draining. I'm not going to lie to you, I do feel happy. I
03:46:17
Camila (Cam)feel like I'm slowly getting back to me. >> And what is your dating life like over the past few months? Have you tried to get back into it or you just taking time for yourself? >> No, I'm taking time for myself just because again, I don't want to keep
03:46:29
Camila (Cam)giving time and energy, especially to people that I know. You're not the one. I'm not gonna not only waste your time, I'm not going to waste my time because it's not fair to me and or the man. If the man's seriously looking for someone
03:46:42
Camila (Cam)and he has the intentions of dating someone serious and getting married and I know I'm not there, why would I reel him in for what? I don't get anything out of it. You what? You take me on a a stupid dinner date. So what? I could
03:46:52
Camila (Cam)take myself out on I take myself out to dinner all the time. I like to date for pe I I'm on the same page as a man. If I really want to be with someone, I'm going to invest my all. But if it's not you're not the person I'm looking for and we're just not aligned. I'm not
03:47:06
Camila (Cam)going to waste my time. >> I'm not going to waste my time. I'm not going to waste your time. It's a waste of time and we only live this life once. Why would I waste my time with someone? >> Yeah. >> Did Did any of the girls when we were talking about the chivalry topic, did
03:47:18
Taylorany of you want to weigh in while that was on the chivalry topic? I wanted to say that I believe in like traditional gender roles like the man has his trai
03:47:30
Taylorlike and also with women expecting a traditional man like how can you expect tradition when you're not giving tradition? >> True. Your thought any thoughts from you? >> Um I'm a very 50/50 person.
03:47:42
Brian Atlas>> 5050 gal. Okay. >> I'd also respect the traditional way. So I go both ways. >> But what is it when you I know here's my confusion. You say you respect the traditional ways. It's always you respect the part where the man has to do
03:47:55
Melissa Pereirasomething that benefits you. >> If I'm dating a guy who wants the traditional ways, I'll do it. But my personal opinion is 50/50. >> Okay. In in all in all ways 50/50.
03:48:08
Alex Stein>> Yeah. >> So 50% of the time you ask guys out. >> Yeah. Actually >> 50% >> I asked my most recent one. I'm the one who actually hit on him. >> That is like the call back. I think that's like the current thing where more
03:48:20
Alex Steingirls are being I mean that's the whole Bumble like the whole Bumble I know they had to change or something they changed. >> Yeah. But I'm saying that was like the whole, you know, theory or >> your thoughts? Any thoughts on the chivalry topic?
03:48:32
Megan>> Um I guess it depends. >> I I like shiver shivery chivalry shivering. >> I can't it's cold. I guess
03:48:41
Megan>> it's words are hard. Um my last marriage was very uh not like that. He was not very much a leader.
03:48:52
Alex Stein>> Well, he was trying to lead you. He was like, "I don't want you doing XYZ." But you were being rebellious >> by not wanting to. >> You literally cheated on him. >> But Brian, some girls have daddy issues and they want to be treated bad by a
03:49:06
Alex Steinguy. I'm not getting >> You shouldn't treat You should never treat women poorly. No, but I'm saying girls wanted like I'm guessing and I don't know you from Adam, but I mean maybe you did have daddy issues and maybe that this guy was kind of being like the bad dad that you had. So maybe that's why you're like subconsciously
03:49:20
Alex Steinattracted to him. And I know that sounds crazy, but that I mean am I wrong? >> I don't think so. My >> He my >> You said he was controlling, but you ended up cheating on him.
03:49:31
Brian Atlas>> I did. So men, when it comes to protecting, protecting doesn't just mean protecting you from immediate threats of physical violence. Protecting can mean a
03:49:43
Brian Atlascouple things. It can mean protecting the relationship against your own, no offense, >> uh, do I want to put this politely, [ __ ] uh, [ __ ] desires. Oh, I
03:49:55
Brian Atlaswant to have a bunch of single girlfriends who are invariably going to end up hating my boyfriend or husband or whatever. And uh by the way, single girlfriends are like the worst thing ever for a relationship. They want their
03:50:08
Brian Atlasgirlfriend back. They want to do hood rat [ __ ] They want their girlfriend back because you as the man, you kind of took her from that. You know, she can't go out to the club or whatever. She, you know, she's prioritizing the boyfriend,
03:50:20
Brian Atlasthe husband over the single girlfriends who want to do hood rat [ __ ] and go get drunk at some bar and go [ __ ] some Soundcloud rapper. So, so men have a
03:50:30
Brian Atlasduty to protect women against their own blind spots in a relationship of like women will put their own relationship at risk. And it's our job as men to be
03:50:42
Brian Atlaslike, "No, you're not going to do this really stupid [ __ ] that puts you in a high probability position of cheating, >> self-sabotage. >> You're not you're not going to do that. You're not going to do that." Um, but we
03:50:53
Brian Atlasalso need to protect the there's threats of mind which is like this other layer where it's like okay is government trying to propagandize you? Is government do you want to get your
03:51:04
Brian Atlas[ __ ] 10th booster shot? >> No. Is it? >> So men have to also protect women just not of body but of spirit and of mind. So if the if uh societ it's not even the
03:51:17
Brian Atlasgovernment necessarily it could be culture society. Oh, uh, what kind of messages are women getting from the media to make them feel insecure about themselves?
03:51:27
Brian Atlas>> Oh, I'm I'm in a marriage with a woman and she wants to get XYZ plastic surgery because society has dictated to her that she isn't enough unless she gets fake
03:51:37
Brian Atlastits, a BBL, lipo, uh, bal fat removal, all this [ __ ] I think it's your duty as a husband to not indulge her in this uh
03:51:46
Brian Atlaspetulant child uh ch not child childlike but this this sort of insecurity that is propagated on them by society. You need to be like no you're beautiful as you are. You're not going to first off
03:51:59
Brian Atlasyou're not going to waste my money so you can get fat removed from your face. That's stupid. That's dumb. You're not going to do that. Uh, I need to protect
03:52:09
Brian Atlasyou from society destroying your mind to the point that you're going to under you're going to go get um, what's it called? When you get put under what's the term? Uh, anesthesia. Sorry. Yeah,
03:52:21
Brian Atlasit was evading me. Uh, anesthesia. Always a risk of >> dying. Death. >> Death. When you go under the knife. Uh, look, if you have cancer, you have some serious illness. Okay. Riskreward. Uh,
03:52:34
Brian Atlasyou need to mitigate that. There's a medical indication for going under anesthesia. Oh, you want to get uh I know you like big booty Latinos. You need to get a BBL. No, you're not
03:52:45
Alex Steingetting a BBL. I'm not spending my money on even even if it was her money. >> It's your money. Nope. You're not spending that [ __ ] >> Well, I would I would argue most of the time the reason why women fall into the
03:52:57
Alex Steintrap of materialism is to impress other women because men do not care. They don't look at a woman. Like, >> that's true. >> Hold on. So my ex my
03:53:06
Meganprevious husband right >> changed my whole political views >> Mhm. based moved me. >> Is he a lib? >> Yes. Okay. Well, remember not he was a
03:53:19
Meganvegan and made me vegan. >> Vegan was the li. >> Are were you conservative before? >> I was. >> And are you now conservative again? >> I am >> or more I am >> populist centrist. >> I'm like middle.
03:53:32
Alex Stein>> Yeah. >> Like I I agree with a lot of conservative views, but I also agree with some liberal views. Well, well, I want to make this point and I think I don't know everybody's political leanings, but I I Brian, I know there's
03:53:45
Alex Steinpeople have different varations of conservatism, but I think the basis of conservatism, if we really just want to break it down to the most simplistic form, >> being a [ __ ] >> well, well, I mean, that's a good description, but it's less government.
03:53:57
Alex SteinWe want less of the government involved in our everyday lives. And I think that a lot of people would agree with that sentiment. And if you simpl if you made it that simplified, I think more people would say, I'm conservative because I want the government less involved in my life. So, I think that's why a lot of
03:54:10
Marley Jay / Ameliapeople are afraid to say I'm conservative, but really it just means I don't want the government deciding every single decision of my life. >> Libertarian, though, >> I think most people fall into that, >> which I think a lot of people confuse the yellow like don't tread on me flag
03:54:22
Brian Atlaswith being like racist, but it's really a libertarian flag, which is like >> don't the Gadston flag. >> The don't tread on me is a libertarian flag. >> People do think racist snakes. My buddy
03:54:34
Brian AtlasTim Yeah. People think they thought he was racist cuz he had that that flag. >> Well, I guess it's more associated with a bit more like right-wing or even more libertarian. >> Libertarian. Yeah. A lot of libertarian
03:54:46
Brian Atlaspeople will fly that flag. And I agree with those. >> It's not there's there's no historical >> Well, people think the American flag is racist now. They think that's the left thinks everything that doesn't agree with them is racist.
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Megan>> But okay, so your boyfriend, he made you a vegan and soy, I guess. >> Yes. And like my job, he did not like my job. So if I if I would come home, I couldn't talk about my job because he didn't like that I would arrest people
03:55:11
Meganfor using drugs. >> Oh wow. >> So you're a narc. Yeah, that is some issues there. >> Yeah. My current boyfriend now is a veteran and does the same thing I do. So we
03:55:24
Brian Atlas>> That makes sense. >> Uh final thing on the chivalry, then we're off to something else. Nick, we should play the bow video. We, you know, the bow video. We'll play the bow video. This is a video I took of my
03:55:33
Brian Atlasex-girlfriend. It's like a tutorial. Um, I show future women like, "Hey, this is my ex-girlfriend. This is what I expect." Um, like a tutorial, you know, because sometimes it's like, uh, you
03:55:46
Meganknow, you got to you got to put the girl in recruit mode for a little bit just so she >> she knows like how to operate in the relationship. >> Are you being 100% honest when you say say that this is you show this to future
03:55:58
Brian Atlasgirlfriends or are you just being watch or you just being funny? >> They watch the show. Is that a requirement of a future girlfriend? >> Whoever submits. >> Look, I think, you know, there's a lot of there's a lot of I need to deprogram. >> Yeah.
03:56:09
Brian Atlas>> I need to deprogram my my future girlfriend. I got to I got to unbrainwash her. >> Okay. >> And new brainwash her. >> Okay. >> With my
03:56:21
Brian Atlaslast time, but I want to see it again. >> The the uh the the uh psychologist is loving this. I'm like >> she's like, "This man is so dysfunctional." Um, at least I'm selfaware, right? >> I can't wait to say. No, I love it. I
03:56:34
Brian Atlaslove it. >> Go ahead. Let's play Play the clip. >> All right, go ahead. Uh, window tab. >> Oh my gosh. Are you kidding? >> Boom. Huge bow and then Yep. >> Bow.
03:56:45
Brian Atlas>> What did you just throw at her? >> My sandals, I guess. >> Look, you There's my shirt. I'm like, "Hey, >> you got to get the laundry done, right?" It was after a long podcast, so I was
03:56:57
Brian Atlasreally tired. She has my dinner ready. >> Beautiful. scampering around. She cracks open a beer for me. Now, I actually, you see those in the corner there, the right bottom corner, the red tomatoes? I actually dumped her because of I those
03:57:09
Brian Atlasthat is disgusting. How would you How could you ever just have raw? >> Who eats tomatoes like that? So, I dumped her right uh after I I finished the dinner. >> You dumped her >> and after we had sex, but what >> you dumped her? >> Of course.