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00:04:54Marley Jay / Ameliatell us your name, age, occupation, where you're from, and education. Go ahead. >> Hi, I'm Marley Jay. Uh, I am 37. I just turned 37. I'm from Southern California,
00:05:05Marley Jay / AmeliaInland Empire. originally a UCSB alumnist and I do a variety of things. I call myself a 1099. So, I do bartending,
00:05:15Marley Jay / Ameliaside gigs, uh booking, promoting, and uh DJ selecting. And that's just like a little selection of some of the things that I do on the side. >> Okay. And sorry, could you repeat your age? I I just missed that part.
00:05:26Brian Atlas>> I just turned 37. >> Just turned 37. Happy uh birthday. Thank you. >> I read on your Instagram that uh let me see the notes here.
00:05:36Marley Jay / Ameliayou uh describe yourself as a model. So do you do modeling? >> I do so collab brand modeling which I wouldn't call professional modeling. So
00:05:47Marley Jay / Ameliamost of the time brands either I link them or they link me. A lot of times it just happens that I tag them and then it starts a relationship. I wouldn't say that's my main stay. It's more about
00:05:58Marley Jay / Amelianetworking in that. I would say uh holistic therapy and coaching and DJ and bartending is like my main income. >> You wear many hats. >> Have to
00:06:08Brian Atlas>> holistic. Yeah. On your Instagram. Holistic wellness consultant. Uh and you said you do you do consulting. Is that how you >> So I do a variety of different things. >> Are you therapist or >> I am not a licensed therapist. I have
00:06:21Marley Jay / Amelialife coach. What's that? What was >> life coach? Uh, I I like that term, life coach, but I didn't ever brand myself as a life coach because I never felt like that spoke to me. So, I basically
00:06:33Marley Jay / Amelia>> most of the time sit down with clients and I believe in a holistic mind, body, spiritual connection. So, a lot of times I feel like things that are deficiencies in our physical go back to a mental or spiritual blockage of some sort. So, that's where the word holistic came
00:06:48Marley Jay / Ameliafrom. >> Do you do Reiki? >> I am attuned to Raiki. I just recently >> attuned to >> I was just recently >> Are you familiar with Raike? >> A little bit. >> So I just recently received my second attunement to Reiki. So I've had my
00:07:00Marley Jay / Ameliafirst and second attunements which means that I can practice as a healer but I am not a master raiki healer or anything in that respect. >> Do you um when you're talking about attunements, have you been attuned to
00:07:12Brian Atlaslike molten core? >> What do you mean? like MC MC40 like Rag Ragnaros
00:07:20Brian Atlaslike BWL like BWL attunement blackwing layer it's pretty easy um have you been attuned to BWL? >> No, I've never
00:07:31Brian Atlas>> Yeah, it's pretty quick. Like you just kill this guy in Black Rock Mountain. >> You just kill him in in the Yeah, in the video game. >> Wait, I thought it was a form of yoga. I don't remember. No,
00:07:42Marley Jay / Amelia>> it's like hand stuff. >> I would say it's energy work. That's the best way to explain it. >> I like to close. >> Oh, I could have sworn I've been at like a yoga studio and they were doing raiki.
00:07:53Alex Stein>> The yoga teacher may have been what it Okay, cuz I've been gateway. >> Oh, is that cuz I know I've been somewhere where they're doing raiki and I'm like, what the hell is this? So, I've done something. >> A lot of people that practice raiki have infused it into different things they
00:08:06Marley Jay / Ameliado. So, you could go and get a massage and they'll say this is a raiki massage. So, it just kind of depends on what their trade is. I have just recently been attuned to my second Raiki. There's usually three, the first, second, and
00:08:18Marley Jay / Ameliathird. The third being the master. I think I received the second attunement a couple months ago or something like that. >> Wait, so I mean, but like are you are
00:08:30Brian Atlasyou on are you on attuned to Nixia? >> No. No. My my Reiki atunement was >> AQ40. AQ40. No, I'm sorry. >> Kn at least. I mean, it's it's >> I mean,
00:08:42Brian Atlas>> Night Slayer PvP realm, it's it's phase six. Like, how are you not attuned for Knack Ramas? >> I feel like we're speaking different languages right now. >> Okay. Uh, and then you also also just
00:08:54Marley Jay / Ameliareally quick on before we move on, you do sacred sessions. >> Sacred Sessions comes from my podcast. So, I'm I just recently started a podcast down in San Diego called Eighth House Discussions, but because there's
00:09:06Marley Jay / Ameliamultiple co podcasts that I'm working on, I just put sacred sessions because I go in and I act as an audio engineer a lot of the times. So, sometimes I'm not booked as a host or a guest. I'm doing the back.
00:09:17Marley Jay / Amelia>> Gotcha. Okay. What about you? >> All right. Hi, I'm Amelia. I am from Florida and I am 26 years old. Um, I am a content creator slash only fans model
00:09:29Marley Jay / Ameliaand uh my level of education is my boobs.
00:09:36Marley Jay / Amelia>> No, but I I h got >> my Yeah, huge boobs. Um, no, I got my like estheticians license and no longer have it and I graduated high school. So, there we go. >> No college though?
00:09:50Marley Jay / Amelia>> No. >> Okay. And then college for you? >> Yeah. I'm an alumnist from UCSB. >> Okay. Uh what did I sorry if I missed that when you said it. What did you uh get your degree in? >> Uh I have two degrees, cultural anthropology and religious studies. I
00:10:02Brian Atlasdid a double major when I was there. >> Double major. And you graduated when? >> Um show my age. I graduated in 2011. >> Okay. So c you said cultural anthropology. >> Religious studies.
00:10:14Marley Jay / Amelia>> Religious studies. Are you religious? >> I would say no. I'm a spiritual person, but I think that religion there's always defects. So, take what you can. >> Cultural. So, you have a B is it a bachelor of arts or bachelor of science?
00:10:28Brian Atlas>> It's actually a bachelor's of science for cultural anthro. Yeah. Which I found surprising. >> Um, I know it was a while ago, but maybe we can uh kickstart a little something here. Uh, tell me like the number one thing you learned studying cultural
00:10:41Marley Jay / Ameliaanthropology. >> That history is written by the person that succeeds and is the victor. So take everything with a grain of salt. Everything is subjective. >> But I mean, I'm like a city college dropout and I knew that. So,
00:10:54Marley Jay / Amelia>> but I think when you study something as deeply as anthropology, you really see the flaws because most of it is called armchair armchair anthropology, which means that it's people who are studying subjects from a removed setting. And so
00:11:06Marley Jay / AmeliaI think the majority of the time, especially when we look at specifically historians that are anthropologists, >> almost everything is subjective. everything is from a second or third party. If it's not, you have to look at
00:11:19Marley Jay / Ameliaif it's from a firsthand account. What was a that person? What was the culture that they came from? What was the culture that came in? Etc. So although I agree with you that you don't need an
00:11:31Marley Jay / Ameliaeducation to know what I just said, I would say that through studying it, I learned to take everything with a grain of salt after that. >> Okay. Do they teach you about like gobeckley and stuff like that in college? Gobecley Teepe. Do you know
00:11:44Alex Steinwhat that is? >> No, we most like because it was cultural anthropology. Even though I did have to take a few of the >> physical the oldest um church of all time. Go. >> No, I didn't really study Christianity and religious. >> It doesn't ascribe to modern, you know,
00:11:58Marley Jay / Ameliathe modern timeline. >> Yeah, I would say because that wasn't my niche of study. No, I'm not familiar with it. >> So, what what do you learn in cultural anthropology? Well, it depends what you want to do your emphasis in and it
00:12:10Marley Jay / Ameliadepends what your interests are and then it also depends like for me I did a double major with religious studies and I did my my independent studies or
00:12:19Marley Jay / Ameliathesis on the cultural impact and spiritual crisis of basically focusing on the Vietnam era and forward on how basically civil religions takes place in
00:12:32Marley Jay / Ameliaa country like the United States where it's not so much necessarily people are spiritual or religious But they do have a moral code of ethics. And then I was studying specifically the
00:12:44Marley Jay / Ameliacrisis that happened after the Vietnam era in this country and the division that happened between all the what I would say the civilians versus veterans. >> Were you smoking a lot of marijuana? >> Of course. I mean I was in school.
00:12:55Marley Jay / Amelia>> Yeah. That seems like some a subject that you would have to be very high to even >> I mean not necessarily. That I feel like was more of a personal I'm sure there was people there that weren't high. >> Yeah. But I mean probably not in your >> you weren't hanging out with them. >> Oh, I mean you were probably hang out
00:13:09Marley Jay / Ameliawith all >> I mean I can remember being in really intimate class discussions and talking to people and they were sober. So >> yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe the older students but um Yeah, that sounds interesting. Kind of. >> Yeah, kind of. Exactly.
00:13:20Colette Fair>> Yeah. What about you? >> Me? I am Colette Fair. I am a licensed marriage and family therapist, a licensed mental health counselor. I'm from New York, a little town called Ry
00:13:31Colette Fairoutside of New York City, but I now live in Florida. and I have two podcasts. I'm an author and I work with people who are divorced. I specialize in couples
00:13:41Colette Fairtherapy, breakups, everything relationship focused. >> All right. And age? >> Oh, I'm 52.
00:13:50Colette Fair>> Gotcha. And um degrees. >> So, I was a history English major in college. >> Okay. >> Best thing to study if you have no idea what you want to do. And I went into the
00:14:02Colette Fairmagazine business for a while in New York. And then I did sales for a while. And when I got divorced, uh, I got married really young, what I think is really young, 24. I got divorced at 31
00:14:13Colette Fairand went back to grad school because I had a horrible marriage counselor. And it showed like who did more harm than good. So it really showed me the importance of knowing what you're doing and being well trained if you're going
00:14:26Colette Fairto do couples work. and I went back to grad school at a place called Rollins College in Winter Park, Florida, and got a master's in counseling and I'm now certified in emotionally focused couples therapy, which is the gold standard and
00:14:37Colette Fairevidence-based treatment, and also EMDR, which is a gold standard treatment for trauma. I love that. >> What What does uh EMDR stand for? >> So, it's eye movement desensitization and reprocessing. And I do this because
00:14:50Colette Fairbasically whether you use a light machine, maybe some of you guys have done it or heard of it, it's it's become the number one thing to treat trauma >> that um they have like you you use
00:15:01Colette Faireither your your hand, it sounds so weird, to go back and forth and have the person's eyes move when you hit a target. And this is thought to stimulate the occipital nerve in the brain, which
00:15:13Colette Fairhelps your brain to process basically that something traumatic from the past is now over. and you can feel safe in your body again. And that's simplifying it greatly. But that's the best. >> Gotcha. What about you?
00:15:24Camila (Cam)>> Hi, my name is Camila, but I go by Cam. I am 29 years old, and I'm originally from Orange County, but I have now been living in Los Angeles for the past 11 years. I used to be a realtor, but today
00:15:37Camila (Cam)I'm a pursuing actress and/TV coordinator and host. So, I'm removed myself from the real estate industry and now stepping foot into the entertainment world. >> Any college? Um, in and out, but I didn't graduate. But yeah.
00:15:49Camila (Cam)>> What were you studying when you were >> just business, econ? So, yeah, regular. >> What about you? >> Oh, we're already homies. >> Yeah. Hello. >> Hello. >> Here we are.
00:16:01Jenna (Paris)>> Uh, my name's Jenna. Uh, but I go by Paris online. Um, I'm a porn star. I've been in porn since 2013, so pre-ON fans.
00:16:11Jenna (Paris)Um, and majority of my time is spent being a mother, though. I only work one week out of the month. So, >> age? >> I'm 31.
00:16:21Brian Atlas>> All right. Um, and when you say you work one week out of the month, you're you're an active sex worker. Is that correct? >> Yes. >> Okay.
00:16:32Megan>> All right. What about you? >> I'm Megan. I'm from Pennsylvania, um, central state. Um, I am a parole agent.
00:16:42MeganI'm 34 now. And my education, I have two degrees. I have um an administrative of business
00:16:53Melissa Pereiraand then I also have a bachelor's of science in psychology. >> All right. Um what about you?
00:17:03Melissa Pereira>> Hi, I'm Melissa Pereira. Um I'm 32 years old and I was born and raised in Canada, Ontario. And I am a professional ballroom dance instructor.
00:17:15Melissa PereiraYay. Any >> college? >> I did do some college. I took interior design. Uh I did pass. Um unfortunately it's not my passion. I don't have any
00:17:25Melissa Pereiradesire. I know I'm stupid cuz it's a money field, but I love dancing. Um it makes me happy. So it's what I've studied most of my life. And if say I
00:17:37Melissa Pereirashould break a leg and well actually I've already done that. Um, if I just can't dance anymore, at least I have a fallback plan. So, >> all right. >> Yeah.
00:17:48Taylor>> What about you? >> I'm Taylor. I'm 18. I'm from Northern California and I'm a helicopter mechanic. >> Cool. >> Helicopter mechanic. Okay. Uh, any
00:17:59Taylorcollege or anything like that? >> I took some college courses or like dual enrollment in high school, but that's it. >> Okay. And did you do any other kind of mechanic work? Like I I saw on your
00:18:10TaylorInstagram you uh you ride motorcycles. Do you do any motorcycle? >> Um I have I've have worked on like other
00:18:19Taylorstuff like automotive motorcycles but I didn't really pursue it as a I have >> like national industry automotives
00:18:30Alex Steinand I have my smog license certificate but >> Okay. All right. Alex, what about you? Am I the only one? That's scary as hell. You are working on helicopters and we're just not going to make that a big deal.
00:18:42Alex SteinI mean, I don't want them. I mean, flying them is bad enough. You're working on them. Is that real? >> Yeah. >> Is your dad like a mechanic or something? >> My dad actually used to work there, but >> Okay. See, that kind of makes me feel a little better. >> Why? >> Is it cuz she's
00:18:55Alex Stein>> Well, if it's your dad, cuz she's a girl or she's young. >> It's in her DNA a little bit. You know what I mean? So, she's kind of around like gear and stuff. So, she kind of got to learn it through osmosis is what I'm just guessing. But like if she just has like a boyfriend that's in a helicopter
00:19:07Alex Steinlike come work at the plant with me and you're working on my helicopter cuz I'm a pimp on a blimp. I go on helicopters um >> and blimps >> and blimps and I you know no offense. I mean I'm just saying I don't want a female pilot much less a female mechanic. I haven't even thought about
00:19:19Alex Steinthat layer of it. >> Well, come on. You guys like want you guys like female pilots. >> Let's be real. Don't listen. Let's just be real for a second. You guys, when you walk on the plane, you don't feel a little better when it's a white guy
00:19:31Alex Steincompared to like, you know, a woman that could be on her cycle and, you know, or just got done by her boyfriend is emotional. And no, we do not have her period. Okay. So, no, first of all, that's >> flying myself. I prefer flying the airplane myself.
00:19:44Colette Fair>> Yeah. Oh, I love that for you. >> Do you have a pilot license? >> Yeah, I'm getting it. >> Do you? >> Yeah. That's so cool. Actually, my pilot on my way to LA was a woman. >> And you were scared to death the whole
00:19:54Alex Steintime? was not. But I will admit that I was surprised. I did. I was surprised. >> Look at that. Cuz that's just your natural inclination. >> Well, that's because back in the day we didn't really see that >> because there was gender roles. Yes. And
00:20:07Alex Steinand you know, let's let's be real. It's like um you know, we'll probably argue about a lot of stuff tonight, but uh >> I think we're already ready. >> Well, I think we already are. But what I'm saying is like there are things that women can do better than men, and those things men can do better than women. And
00:20:20Alex SteinI think flying or driving a car, I mean, could you imagine get on a plane and the it's a Chinese woman? I would not get on the plane. I mean, you know what I mean? A Chinese woman can't even drive a damn car. >> Actually, I would feel very confident with a Chinese woman. >> I would feel confident a Chinese man.
00:20:32Alex Stein>> Yes. >> Chinese woman. Chinese. I don't they're not I don't think they legally they're allowed to fly. But my point is it's just there's some natural inclinations that, you know, maybe it's not polite. It might be impolite to say these things, but we're all feeling them, you know. So,
00:20:45Alex Stein>> or some of us are feeling them. >> I don't think we're all feeling that. >> Well, we all should be. Okay. So, who am I? I'm prime time 999 Alex Stein. Uh, model, actor, comedian, mainly model. Um, and uh, wait, hold on.
00:20:56Alex Stein>> Yeah, I'm an international sex symbol. Uh, my I'm only 29 years old. Wikipedia has it wrong cuz it's made by right-wing trolls. So, do not believe that. And yeah, graduated from LSU with a general
00:21:07Brian Atlasstudies degree. So, I'm smart. I'm sexy. And I'm ready to freaking dive in. Let's do the damn thing. >> Yeah. Also, People magazine did in fact >> sexiest man. >> Rank him as sexiest in conservi
00:21:22Alex Steinsexiest man alive. Oh, and Tucker Carlson is my biological stepfather if you guys didn't know that. Yeah. So, I'm rich, [ __ ] I'm rich. >> Biological stepfather, >> right? >> It's confusing, but yeah. >> I said you said you're 29 or the the
00:21:35Alex Steingrays that's died. >> That's from stress because I have to deal with >> flying with women. big floppy titties like that already in the beginning of the show making fun of my gray hair. >> No, no, it's very sexy. But you prefer the big booty Latinos, right?
00:21:48Alex Stein>> I Well, I want amnesty for big booty Latinos. See, because this is the thing is a lot of people, they misunderstand who I am. They think, "Oh, Alex, you're rightwing. You know, you like Donald Trump cuz I am good friends with Laura Trump. I'm good friends with the administration. You know, am I calling
00:21:59Alex Steinshots?" In a way, I am because >> Donald Trump campaigned on a very strict immigration policy. You guys saw that. And then you can see a lot of people are protesting all the ICE immigration stuff. But Donald Trump did make a
00:22:12Alex Steincondition saying that, you know, illegals that work in hotels are granted amnesty. That's because I've been working with Ed Martin. This is true because who works in hotels? Who cleans the rooms? Big booty Latinos. So Donald Trump is on board for amnesty for big
00:22:25Alex Steinbooty Latinos. If you're a nine, you're fine. But once again, Brian, not one big booty Latina here. All a bunch of whites and one African-American lady. And the one that has dreads is a white girl.
00:22:35Camila (Cam)That's insane. That's insane. >> With what? Why do you say it like that? >> Yeah, but I mean, are you white, Latino? >> You could be Asian. You could be >> No, >> you could be Tiger Woods. >> I'm half Filipino and half African
00:22:48Alex SteinAmerican. >> You get mad at me. You get mad at me. How am I supposed to know that you're half Filipina? >> You just ask. You just have to ask. You can't assume things just because you think I'm Oh, I know one of them's black. I mean, I'm not trying to be rude, but I think we can tell one combination. I don't know what the other
00:23:02Alex Steinone was. And >> you're right. I am black mix. So, >> and I guessed right. I said Tiger Woods vibes. And that's Tiger Woods. His mom was Asian, so I'm already betting a thousand%. So, I'm doing pretty good so
00:23:12Brian Atlasfar. >> Nice. Um, we're we're uh trying to think where we >> Yeah, I do want to apologize. I we I did have a a as you call them big booty
00:23:24Brian AtlasLatina. I did I did have one scheduled, but unfortunately she canled. So, >> did you know I was on the panel? Is that Did she know I was going to be here? Is that why? Okay. >> No, but you know what? Round two, the entire panel.
00:23:36Alex Stein>> All Latinos. Latinos. Well, then I would be the S on a blimp. But see, tonight I can't I can't be the S on a blimp, but I got to be the pimp on a blimp. You know, we got to >> really really quick here. Uh going to uh
00:23:46Brian Atlasyou you know, he had some thoughts on the female being a mechanic. Uh do you How do you feel about what he said?
00:23:56Taylor>> I mean, that's his own opinion, but I'm not qualified. But >> wait, you're waiting. They don't qualify women. Now I'm a little concerned.
00:24:08Taylor>> Say that again. No. >> My work is checked by licensed AMPs. Once I work in my shop for 3 years, I can have my boss sign off and I can go and take my AMP license test and get my AMP.
00:24:22Brian Atlas>> So, how long have you been there currently? Over. >> She's 18. >> Over a year now. >> Oh, wow. So, you started working >> I started working in high school. >> Any Blackhawks? You done anything on a
00:24:31Alex SteinBlackhawk helicopter? Our shop has had Blackhawks in. I have not person. >> No. >> No Apaches. >> Well, you know, it's sad because like, you know, I don't want to make something light about it, but like Kobe Bryant's helicopter, you know.
00:24:44Alex Stein>> Oh, that was that one was worked on by a woman. >> Well, but I'm just saying helicopters are very dangerous. Like, you know, there there was just a crash. >> Yeah, there was just a crash. >> I'm just saying helicopters are dangerous. >> What made you want to do that? I mean,
00:24:57Taylorthat's not a typical thing you hear from an 18-year-old. >> Okay. So my her dad her dad my school had her mom my school had an RO program and it's like hands-on mechanics like
00:25:08Taylormedical that kind of thing and I was I was in auto shop and I was like kind of the top of my class so I got offered that internship and I was like yeah I want to go plus my dad had worked at
00:25:19Taylorthat shop so I was like yeah okay >> so I I drove in there and I was like I want to talk to boss man and >> good for you. So instead of going to my RO class for first and second period in the morning, I'd go to work and then go
00:25:32SPEAKER_00to school after that. >> Very cool. >> That's pretty admirable. Working in high school. >> Grid One Motorsports donated $2001.
00:25:41SPEAKER_00My man Alex Stein. I still owe you the $65 from debate in NJ. $5 every time you call Jasmine in your debate. Awesome to see you on the show. Is that is that a
00:25:54Alex Steincommon tactic that that the super chatters use to get >> I don't need the money, but maybe Jasmine, you're a [ __ ] Um, no. >> No, he's saying he he owes you money. >> Oh. Oh, cuz that one debate. No, your
00:26:06Alex Steinname's not Jasmine. Good. >> Well, no. Yeah, I know. >> Yeah, I Well, you don't owe me any money for I know Brian appreciates it. Keep keep super chatting the stream tonight.
00:26:16SPEAKER_00We need >> the Bron donated $200. Thank you, man. >> Godamn, those are some delicious titties. >> Holy [ __ ] >> Who cares about all these boring BNC
00:26:29Brian Atlascups? >> What the are going to get someone killed? >> You guys are You guys are off to an interesting start already with some of the comments here. Uh, I think this
00:26:40Brian Atlaswould be a good moment to also just I I I got I got rid of my disclaimer, but I feel like I got to bring it back for tonight's episode. the views expressed by the >> chatters and panelists do not
00:26:51Brian Atlasnecessarily reflect the views of the host or the whatever podcast. >> Uh so anyways um >> so you don't like boobs? >> What what I don't see how that >> No, that was just the comment that they
00:27:03Brian Atlasmade before you said >> uh is that >> No, that was just what the comment was about before. >> I'm more of a labia guy of a labia guy boobs. I don't really not really.
00:27:15Brian Atlas>> Okay, I understand. It's like labia, butt, them boobs, like in order of importance, I guess. All right. Uh, so, okay, we're going to go around the table once more. What is everybody's current dating podcast? What is everybody's
00:27:27Brian Atlascurrent relationship status? If you're single, how long have you been single? And longest relationship you've ever been in. Go ahead. >> Um, I am single. I've been single for I
00:27:39Marley Jay / Ameliawant to say like two and a half years. Like, I've talked to people, but I've been single through that whole process. The longest relationship I've had is eight and a half years. >> All right. Long. And sorry, you've been single how long?
00:27:50Marley Jay / Amelia>> Like two two and a half years. >> Okay. In the two years you've been single. Has there been any guys in the picture? >> I mean, I've been in talking stages, but
00:28:00Marley Jay / AmeliaI feel like it's never gotten past a talking stage, uh, that's also like a issue with interacting with people online first is a lot of times it never aberates into a physical >> aberates. Yeah.
00:28:13Brian Atlas>> Aberration. Okay. Uh, a lot of good words from you and they all start with a attuned aberration. >> It's good. The alliteration, >> the alliteration is good. Um, what about
00:28:25Marley Jay / Ameliayou? >> So, I have been single since the end of 2022. Um, and >> so like 3 years, four years. >> Mhm. I was in an age gap relationship. I
00:28:35Marley Jay / Ameliawas 23, he was 43 at the time. >> Okay. 20 years. All right. Uh, is that your longest relationship? >> Um, it was about 6 months. Uh, my
00:28:46Marley Jay / Amelialongest relationship was my high school relationship. It was about 3 years. Um, but I don't know how much that really counts. We were children. >> Okay. Um, so single for three years. Do
00:28:59Marley Jay / Ameliayou shoot content with men? >> No, I am strictly solo content and it is only topless. >> And then the three years you've been single, any guys in the picture? Um, I've definitely dated, but I would say
00:29:10Marley Jay / Ameliaright after that relationship ended, I started my Only Fans. Um, and since then, I've kind of realized in dating that a lot of the guys I was dating before are very similar to the guys who
00:29:20Marley Jay / Ameliafollow me on my Only Fans. And so, kind of being a walking fetish for the majority of my life, uh, it, you know, I have to be very picky and choosy about the men that I choose to uh, be with.
00:29:32Marley Jay / AmeliaAnd so that has left me a little bit preferring to be single until I find the right person. >> Wait, you have to be choosy because of your breast size. >> Well, it's more so based off of like the intention of why they want to date me.
00:29:45Marley Jay / AmeliaYou know, a lot of men love dating big boo women, but they don't really want to get to know who I am. They just want to have sex with me, >> which, you know, I also want like a a relationship where we have conversations
00:29:57Brian Atlasand they're not always just trying to suck on them, >> you know. That's fair. I feel like that's fair, right? It's fair. >> I mean, the the origination of most people's romantic interest in any particular individual,
00:30:10Brian Atlas>> of course, >> would be phys physical attraction. >> No, 100%. But sometimes it's just like >> I I suppose if it's super like a fetishization, like an obsession, that could be weird. But >> it's like I get really annoyed after like 5 minutes of nipple pinching, like
00:30:24Alex SteinI'm like, "Please stop touching me." >> Do you have that weird thing where like the guy's like trying to feed you and get you to gay? >> Oh my gosh. Yes, I do have feeders. Amberlin Reed, you guys. I don't know if you're familiar with her, but she's a YouTube icon. But yeah, you know, people are always trying to feed her. She's
00:30:37Marley Jay / Amelialike 600 lb. >> It's definitely a problem for me because I don't want to be 600 lb, but they give me so much money >> to eat. >> Yeah. >> To eat. >> I mean, do they do they want you to eat it on camera? >> Yeah. And I I always throw it up afterwards, though. >> What?
00:30:50Marley Jay / Amelia>> Well, that's that doesn't sound good. >> Well, it's because like I'll >> I'll eat until the food is at my throat and then there's no way to not then throw up afterwards. Why are people paying you to feed you? >> Because Because they want to see they
00:31:02Marley Jay / Ameliawant to see me be messy. They want to see me like all food on your boob. >> I'll put ketchup on my boob and dip my burger in the ketchup and eat it. >> There's there's like >> is that a turn for >> There's weird stuff too actually cuz I've actually looked into it because
00:31:15Alex Steinlike I'm like why do I and I don't watch that much mukbang but I looked into I'm like this is kind of interesting. You know what is mukbang? But there's like two folds to it. There's like the sexual aspect and there's also people have like weird eating issues and so they like to
00:31:26Alex Steinwatch other people eat. Like it's cuz they're either helps them either either they're like overeating or they're undereating. So sometimes they like to watch other people eat because you can people don't realize you can actually look at somebody eating and your brain like if you see somebody eating a hamburger you can kind of taste it in a weird way. Your body just has that weird
00:31:40Colette Fairmuscle memory. >> 100%. >> Yeah. >> What about you? >> I I'm still thinking about making her eat. Um what was the question? Dating single. Okay. I'm married and my longest
00:31:51Colette Fairrelationship is 13 years with husband number one. Husband number two is closely pulling up at 12 years married for nine and I had 11 years between
00:32:01Colette Fairmarriages where I was in some serious relationships but I did a lot of dating and it was really hard and illuminating and eyeopening and I think has helped me be a better therapist than if I had been just married for a hundred years.
00:32:15Colette Fair>> Gotcha. So two marriages. >> Two marriages. >> Any kids? >> Yes. I have two daughters who are 22 and 24 >> from the first marriage. >> From husband one. >> Husband one. Yeah. >> Both of them from >> both of them from husband one and
00:32:27Colette Fairhusband two has two kids. So I have two steps. >> But they're like in their late 20s and so we're we're in that empty nest phase. >> Empty nest. Gotcha. Okay. Uh the first
00:32:37Colette Fairmarriage it was 13 years. You said >> well we were married for 7 and 1/2 years. Yes. So I met him when I was 18 on the first day of school my sophomore year at two lane. And that's actually
00:32:50Colette Fairhow I got to Florida. He moved me there for his job. Was he your age? >> He was two years older than I was, but we graduated at the same time. And >> Gotcha. >> Yeah.
00:33:00Colette Fair>> And uh who initiated the divorce? >> I initiated the divorce. >> What was the reason?
00:33:08Colette Fair>> I mean, okay. So, the easy answer of course is that we grew apart. But there was a lot of Okay, we were young and we
00:33:19Colette Fairdidn't communicate well. And really for me, if I if I'm honest, it's that he was emotionally disconnected. I felt alone in the marriage. I tried really hard to find ways to get through to him and I
00:33:29Colette Faircouldn't. And so eventually I checked out and became very resentful and angry. And finally, I got to the point where even though I had two little kids, no matter what he said or did, wasn't going
00:33:42Colette Fairto turn it around. >> I see. And uh was it a contentious divorce or was he >> it was I think that for some people this is my personal opinion about him he
00:33:54Colette Fairwould maybe tell you something different but I think it wounded his ego to be left >> and at that point even though he was very I was very quickly replaced by
00:34:05Colette Fairsomebody who had nothing to do with the divorce and I really believe that but it wasn't two months into our separation till another woman was living in my house. you know, part-time mothering my
00:34:15Colette Fairkids. And I thought that I encouraged a friend of mine set them up and I encouraged it thinking he would be nicer to me and we would be amicable once he
00:34:26Colette Fairwas dating and it didn't help at all. To this day, I feel like it's not as as amicable as I wish it was. But we we can get along on the surface. You know, we go to the graduations and the birthday. >> You still with that girl?
00:34:39Colette Fair>> Yeah. Yeah. They're married. Yeah. And they seem very happy and I'm happy for them. I really don't care. >> Did he pay you alimony? >> He paid me two years of alimony. >> Okay.
00:34:48Colette Fair>> But I think that I he really got away with not paying me much at all because my own parents got divorced when I was young and it was very contentious and I
00:34:59Colette Fairwas afraid of fighting. So I just bowed out and said, you know, I think his tactic was if you leave me, I'm not going to give you a lot of money and you won't have anything. I had no career at
00:35:10Colette Fairthat point. None. And I had been a stay-at-home mom. And I basically was like, "Screw off. I'm smart. I'm smarter than you. I'll figure it out. I don't need or want your money." Which sounds noble, but it really was a [ __ ] show. As
00:35:23Colette FairI was a young single mom and didn't have any career for a while. >> Shared custody. >> Shared custody. >> 50/50. >> Yeah. I'm really close to my dad, so I didn't want to deny him that. >> Was he paying you child support?
00:35:34Colette Fair>> Yes. Yes. And I did get child support all the way through until my kids uh went to college, but it really didn't amount to that much. I went through a lot of really hard years where I had to
00:35:46Colette Fairwork, go to grad school, live on student loans, take care of my kids, and I didn't feel like he was really very helpful or understanding. It was more like look at the ma the bed you made and
00:35:58Colette Fairnow you have to lie in it. >> How much Just curious, how much was he paying you? I'm sure it changed over the over the course of 18 years. I mean, this is I'm divorced for 20 years. So, at the beginning, I think I got I
00:36:10Colette Fairprobably got around six grand a month in like child support and alimony, but this is a man who make a lot of money. So, >> well, let's Can we separate the alimony and the child support? So, >> yeah. >> And the alimony was two years, right?
00:36:22Colette FairSo, from the initiation of the divorce >> at that point, he was paying you 6,000 >> 7,000. So, he was paying me I just remembered. So I got about 2500 a month
00:36:33Colette Fairfor child support, something like that, and about 5,000 a month for alimony. >> Was he a high high earner? >> Yes. And this is again I got divorced in 2005. >> So this is a lot.
00:36:45Brian Atlas>> That money went further back then. >> Yes. >> Well, so uh but you you said you only had al alimony for two years. >> Yeah. >> For how much was the child support once
00:36:56Colette Fairthe alimony stopped? So, the child support, I actually got less child support when the alimony stopped. But again, and this is why for any of you young women, if you ever find yourself
00:37:06Colette Fairin this situation, I was so traumatized by what my parents went through in New York State where it's very hard to get divorced, watching them fight for years
00:37:16Colette Fairover money and custody that I didn't want to haggle at all. And I should have because it may maybe it sounds like no money to you or maybe it sounds like a lot, but relative to what my ex-husband
00:37:29Colette Fairmade, I really got very little money and it was never enough to feel remotely comfortable even working and going to school. So I wish I had fought a little harder.
00:37:42Brian Atlas>> What are you thinking? Well, I mean, I think this this child support thing where >> the child support is for the benefit of the child. Yeah. Right. >> And so
00:37:55Brian Atlaschildren, I mean, I don't know if the children had any illnesses or anything like that. >> They're not they're not that expensive. And I think the child support system doesn't really take into consideration
00:38:07Brian Atlasthe actual cost of raising a child. So, I mean, I find it a bit dubious that well, I wasn't getting paid enough. It's like, it sounds like you're getting paid
00:38:16Colette Fairwhat two two to three or sorry, 2,000 to $3,000 a month. >> That's pretty good. I mean, >> okay. I mean, that seems fair. >> You are entitled to your opinion. But on
00:38:27Colette Fairthe flip side, I made a decision with my husband at the time to relocate away from my family. I did better in college than he did. I graduated kum laudy as a
00:38:38Colette Fairdouble major. We made a joint decision for me to stay home with the children. I then could not move. At the time that I got divorced, I had not worked for I don't know four or five years at his
00:38:50Colette Fairrequest. So the point of this is that I can't afford at this juncture to even rent a place and provide a home for the child. So it's not just a matter of
00:39:00Colette Fairputting food on the table. The courts want you to at least give a a a decent standard of living for your children. Now, our standards of living, most people will argue in court, which I did
00:39:12Colette Fairnot do, that you should maintain the same lifestyle you had. I was living a very high lifestyle at the time, and I went into living a very middleof the
00:39:22Colette Fairroad lifestyle. And none of that money was like keeping me and I went to work immediately. Like I mean whatever the opinion is, I didn't have enough money to do anything but go to work and
00:39:35Brian Atlasimmediately try to build a career so that I could support myself. >> What state were you living in? >> Florida time. >> So I mean you said though for the first two years you were receiving the alimony combined with child support.
00:39:46Brian Atlas>> That's $7,000 a month for a 2-year period back in 2002 >> five >> 2005 it's $84,000 a year. Yeah. >> So, I mean, and the housing prices back
00:39:58Brian Atlasin Florida, maybe what you could rent like a two to threebedroom house in Florida for >> 1,000 2,000 maybe. I don't know. >> No, not that low. Not that low. I bought a house. I bought a house >> 2005 in Florida. Well, I don't know. In
00:40:12Colette Fairany case, >> well, where I live in Winter Park, it's not inexpensive. >> Expensive taste. So, Brian, no. No. You know what I mean? >> I do have expensive taste, but I lost my ability to have an expensive taste. I
00:40:25Brian Atlashear what you're saying. It may sound like that, but I felt very poor. That's That's >> Wait, wait, wait. It's not But you had First off, it probably wasn't just that. I'm assuming there was like a distribution of community property.
00:40:38Colette Fair>> There was like no community there. It was just that. >> Was there a house? >> There was a house and at the end I walked away with about $20,000 in the bank. >> Can I make a point? >> That seems pretty good to me. >> Okay. Well, it definitely didn't seem
00:40:50Marley Jay / Ameliagood to me. >> I think I think that's fine. In about 2012, I was living in Florida and my parents got divorced while I was in the seventh grade. There was my dad kind of bankrupted our whole family. And um out
00:41:02Marley Jay / Ameliaof the divorce, my mother for three children in 2012 got $400 a month, no alimony. Um and yeah, and she had to restart her whole life. She hadn't
00:41:13Marley Jay / Ameliaworked um since I was born. Uh besides being a freelance photographer. Um, and she had to find a job and do everything on her own. And that was definitely a struggle for her.
00:41:26Brian Atlas>> Sure. >> There there's a bit of difference in circumstance here. No, for sure. >> $400 a month versus $7,000 a month. >> It depends what the husband earns. >> I I personally object to that metric. I
00:41:38Brian Atlasthink there ought to be some caps on child support, for example. Uh, you know, the in California, it's just based off income. There's no cap. So, and I think most states there's no cap. So, I
00:41:50Brian Atlasmean, if you're making millions and millions of dollars a year, uh, what you're going you're you're basically it's just wealth transfer. It's not actually has anything to do it's not
00:42:01Brian Atlascommensurate at all with the actual costs of raising a child. So, I mean, I think some of these uh some of these ridiculous child support payments are not in line at all with the actual cost
00:42:14Brian Atlasof raising a child, which I think is what it should be for. >> Yeah. >> It shouldn't be wealth. It shouldn't be wealth transfer. It shouldn't be It should be child support, not I'm going to continue providing a
00:42:27Marley Jay / Amelialuxury lifestyle for the woman who divorced me. So what do you think of the perspective that you know if a husband makes more money and the wife divorces and so the husband should not have to pay for the
00:42:39Marley Jay / Ameliawife to have you know an equal lifestyle should the husband not then be the one taking care of the children >> if the mom can't afford >> they have split custody >> they did but if you know if if he's not giving all child support >> I mean in the split custody situation I
00:42:52Marley Jay / Ameliawould actually make a compelling argument that there should be no child support >> yeah but if if the kids are then going to live a much worse life half the time shouldn't the just be the one to take care of them. He can provide a better life for them. >> Or the mom. If the mom makes more money
00:43:06Brian Atlasthan the mom, >> give the dad full custody. I'm in favor. Why not? >> I mean, it is like it was children and she chose to leave. >> Uh I mean, look, to be fair, um I'm fine with 50/50 custody. And I think, you
00:43:17Brian Atlasknow, if there's some Look, if there's some compelling argument that she's completely skillless and she's going to be homeless, >> uh I can see some compelling arguments for child support in this situation. In
00:43:30Brian Atlasany case, you had two years of alimony, which should have covered that. And you graduated from college. You >> But it takes years to build up income. And then >> How old were you when you were divorced?
00:43:40Colette Fair>> I was 30 uh 31 when I got divorced. And I had not worked since I was 24. And I had worked for like two or three years out of college. >> I kind of think that's a windfall for women. This idea that
00:43:51Brian Atlas>> everything for you was paid for for years. You didn't have to work. Uh your rent was paid. >> Mothers a job. I imag like imagine me as a dude. I was just living off my girlfriend. Didn't have to pay rent.
00:44:03Brian AtlasDidn't have >> flip the rules. Flip the rules and and y'all will be very tilted about if a man tries to siphon money from women. This idea that oh, she never she didn't have
00:44:16Alex Steinto work and the guy was paying for everything. That's a I think that that's a windfall for the women. >> Well, here let me ask you guys a question. What about Kevin Federline? You guys know Kevin Federine. I know. And what happens when I say Kevin Ferline?
00:44:30Alex Stein>> I think of Britney. >> I know you think of Britney, but why? Because Britney had to pay him all the alimony. And what did you guys think about that one? >> I think it was audio only. >> I said just have a child. >> Glad to know. I almost told you something else.
00:44:43Taylor>> And >> Okay. Where were we? talking about like child >> talking about child support. >> We talking about Kevin Federine. How
00:44:54Marley Jay / Ameliaridiculous. >> If I marry a man, if I anything like that cuz I know that I'm the one who makes I I don't know if I'll find a man who makes more money than I do. Um I am all for prenups and like everyone should
00:45:08Colette Fairhave. >> Me too. And I have that with my husband now. We're totally >> That is good. Yeah. And I think we're back. >> And I would never make those same choices. I mean, >> yeah. Again, having lived through what I've
00:45:22Colette Fair>> That's very thoughtful. >> No, I would never do that. And I did not fight for money at all and there was a lot of money on the line. So, you know, that's not like I I don't that's not my
00:45:33Colette Fairpersonal value system. All I can tell you is in my experience, it was much harder to support myself than I envisioned. Like I was like, I'm fine. I'll go get a sales job. I'll make a great living. I found it very hard to
00:45:45Colette Fairhaving all those years out of the workforce. I think things have changed a little. Again, this is 20 years ago, but I would never ever I tell my daughters every day, whatever you do, don't give up your career completely because you
00:45:59Colette Fairdon't know what's going to happen and it's too hard to recover. >> It couldn't even be a divorce. It could just be your husband dying and then that's, you know, >> or your husband could leave you. You think your life's great and all of a
00:46:09Colette Fairsudden you get like a post-it note on the stairs and now he's dating a man. >> I had a client whose husband she came home and there they've been married 30 years and there was literally a post-it note on the >> Wait, you said something interesting.
00:46:22Melissa PereiraYou had that >> you had that a post-it note about you? >> No. No. So go back. So you're dating a guy then you came out gay. >> This was years ago in high school. I dated a guy for about a year. >> I guess high school they're kind of ying and I
00:46:34Melissa Pereira>> And he then told you he was gay. >> Well, actually no. No, he refused to tell me. I found out on Facebook back when it first I guess came out that um he was making a lot of u you know when videos were a thing with your Yeah. Um
00:46:46Brian AtlasYouTube >> before Tik Tok way before Tik Tok. >> Uh so sorry about the lag there guys. I looks like we got it fixed. It was about two or three minutes there. My apologies. Uh really quick getting back
00:46:57Brian Atlasto the topic at hand. Uh, Alex had brought up a point that Britney Spears was paying child support to Kevin Federline and I I just Googled it really
00:47:06Brian Atlasquick. She was paying him by the end of it uh $40,000 a month in child support. I believe they have two >> kids together. >> $40,000 a month in child support.
00:47:18Brian AtlasPersonally, I think this this although it's a woman paying it to a man even then I think this is incredibly excessive. uh it doesn't cost $40,000 a month
00:47:28Brian Atlas>> to raise children. So, and then also recently Hali Barry, she was married to like some super male supermodel. >> They got divorced. I'm not sure who
00:47:39Brian Atlasinitiated it. And she's having to pay him child support. I don't know if anybody in the chat can tell us how much. Do you guys know how much Halib
00:47:48Brian AtlasBerry Hali Halib Berry is paying her ex-husband in child support and alimony or whatever? I think it's even more than what
00:47:58Colette Fair>> Let me I Halib B >> uh like child support. >> The theory is to maintain an equal standard of living for the kids, but it
00:48:08Alex Steindoes seem outrageous. >> Oops. I think kids will be happy,000 a month. >> They see that they're not too bad. >> It's not crazy. >> I mean, it's a lot.
00:48:21Alex Stein>> It's still weird that she's paying him, though. I mean, that's still >> I love it. >> Yeah. There you go. >> Well, it's like all these women, you know, they they complain about the gender wage gap when in reality, Only
00:48:33Alex SteinFans, that's where the biggest gender wage gap is. Guys make no money and girls make all the money. So, you know, you guys are a bunch of hypocritical hoes, so we're sick of it. No, just But that is true. You know, >> but these are all new phenomenons that
00:48:45Alex Steinwomen have these ways to make money. >> I know. But is I mean, I guess there's not that many different ways, though. I mean, >> I mean, only I mean, is that the new thing? What's the new thing? >> You could be doing Tik Tok live streams.
00:48:57SPEAKER_00>> Social media. Social media. >> Two, your mom had to work while getting $400 in child support. Single fathers have to work and they get no child support. Is that equality?
00:49:10Marley Jay / Amelia>> Does the single father who's not getting child support have the kids or is he just a single father now without kids? Cuz I mean I mean I think we've talked about you know with Britney Spears her I mean
00:49:23Marley Jay / Amelia>> like where's the mom at in the picture? >> Yeah. Yeah. Who's taking care of the kids? I mean, you know, I ended up choosing my dad. So, I lived with my dad uh because me and my mom just were so
00:49:35Brian Atlasexplosive. So, I think after a while, she was making good money and didn't need child support. >> Um, moving on. Relationship status. >> Happily single. >> Single. Happily, happily sing. Not just single. Happily single. >> Yes.
00:49:48Alex Stein>> Okay. Um, >> um, I love it. I love my freedom. >> How long you been single for? >> Two months now. >> Two months? >> Yeah. >> Well, that's not that long. You're acting like you've been single that long. She's Filipina. They're spicy. You know what I mean? >> I'm just glad it's over.
00:50:01Camila (Cam)>> She's like, I'm so single. I'm so single. How long you been single? Oh, 20 minutes. Okay. >> And uh longest relationship? >> Two and a half years. For some reason, it's always two and a half years with
00:50:14Camila (Cam)me. It's like the weirdest. I don't know why, but it just >> So, the one that ended two months ago was two and a half years. >> No. >> Oh, how long was that one? >> That one? A year? >> One year. Okay. How many two and a half
00:50:25Brian Atlasyears have there been? >> Three, I think. Three. Yeah. >> Three. Okay. >> Yeah. >> And in all three of those, who broke up with who? >> It's always me with them. >> You always break up with them. Even the most recent one?
00:50:38Camila (Cam)>> Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. What What's the reason? Typically >> the most recent one or any of them? >> Most recent one. Yeah. >> I would say I broke up with him because he actually stood me up on my birthday. >> He was >> He stood me up on my birthday.
00:50:50Camila (Cam)>> Stood you up on your birthday? >> Yeah. So I was like really really heartbroken by that. That was like a huge like >> you know like a big punch to the gut. >> Clearly he didn't like you to do that. >> Yeah. It was like and the thing is he
00:51:01Camila (Cam)made like so many promises before my birthday like oh you know we're going to do this blah blah blah blah and then >> no that's the worst. >> He wished me a happy birthday but then it was just kind of like no follow through. So I
00:51:14Camila (Cam)>> went to Paris by myself and did my >> Have you had a rebound? >> Sorry. >> Have you had a rebound in the past two months? >> No. I've been just super focused on myself. >> Okay. What about you?
00:51:24Jenna (Paris)>> Um, so I am in a poly relationship. Um, but I have one partner currently. >> All right. Uh, for how long? >> About two years? No. >> Does your partner have any partners? >> Yes. Yeah, he does.
00:51:38Brian Atlas>> Mhm. >> So, two years straight. Like, it hasn't been on on and on. >> Two years straight. >> Okay. And it's a poly relationship. Can you explain that? >> Um, so we take our relationships very
00:51:49Jenna (Paris)seriously. we're not just like sleeping around with whoever. Um so in that in that instance, you know, he found somebody that he really enjoys spending time with. Um so he spends time with her
00:52:00Jenna (Paris)quite often. Um >> Okay. And you see other guys? >> Well, I do I do porn for >> Well, besides for work, I guess. Um sometimes. Yeah. Um I tried to date
00:52:13Brian Atlassomebody for about a year, but it didn't work out. Like also >> Okay. And is the guy who you're seeing the poly relationship guy, >> is he in the industry? Is he a >> No. No. He's a cop or whatever. >> No. >> No. He's a cop. >> He's a cop. >> Yeah. >> A cop?
00:52:28Alex Stein>> Yeah. >> Cop and porn star. Cop cops like to bang. They like to bang, you know. That's why they're in the field. They >> They like to bang in multiple ways. >> That's what I'm saying. They need that adrenaline rush and then >> Yeah. I'm not surprised. A lot of cops
00:52:41Brian Atlasget freaky. >> I love that on someone's neck, then bang another girl. >> That's a pretty deadly combo. Cops. I know. Think about what he does with that night stick. I mean, oh my god.
00:52:53Megan>> Uh, what about you? >> Um, currently in a relationship um since about May, April. Um, two divorces. >> Two divorces. Okay. Wait. So, uh, 6 months your current boyfriend.
00:53:07Brian Atlas>> Mhm. >> Okay. And two divorces? Yes. >> Uh, you're 34. Let's do a bit of a timeline. Uh, first marriage. Uh first
00:53:16Meganmarriage was 2014. Um that lasted about four years and then second marriage uh 2021 to just this year.
00:53:28Megan>> Kids? >> Yes. Three >> from uh how many fathers? >> Um two. So I have two to my first marriage and then one from a guy dated
00:53:38Brian Atlasin high school. >> Okay. So high school father. >> Mhm. Then you got married, but not to him. >> Correct. >> So, two fathers? >> Yes. >> Do you plan on having more kids or are you tapped out? No,
00:53:52Brian Atlas>> I'm done. >> You're done. Okay. >> Um, have has it been an issue dating like the two father thing? Is that a problem or >> It's It's been okay. >> Okay.
00:54:04Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, and then question. The two divorces, who initiated them? >> Um, I did for both. >> For both. And uh briefly, what was the
00:54:14Meganreason for the first one? >> Uh the first one just um he was kind of uh manipulative and uh controlled. >> Controlling? >> Yeah. >> Anything else?
00:54:27Megan>> Not really. That was kind of it. >> Uh really quickly, how was he controlling? >> Um I couldn't spend any money. I had to get permission to spend anything. Um I didn't work. I stayed at home. Um I had
00:54:40Meganto cook. I had to clean. >> Oh, wait. Hold on. Uh, we can dive into those first few things, but cooking and cleaning is controlling. >> No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Like, so he
00:54:50Meganwas um to the point where if I didn't have dinner ready when he expected it to be ready, he would be upset >> when he How what did he do for work?
00:55:00Megan>> Uh, he worked at a phone store, >> like a retail sales, like sales. Yeah. Like >> So he's on his feet all day. Uh, I mean kind of
00:55:10Brian Atlas>> like is that like a minimum wage job or >> Well, it got based off of commission. >> No. >> Okay. It makes sales commission. >> Yeah. >> Um, okay. And you stayed home and he provided everything.
00:55:22Alex Stein>> Yeah. >> And you wouldn't have dinner ready when you got home? >> Well, I had to maintain two small children at the time. >> Was he like strict about the recipe or something? Was he like, "It's got to be hamburger helper."
00:55:35Megan>> No, he wasn't anything like that. No, no, no. Um um the I mean that really wasn't like the main thing. The main thing was um I couldn't go hang out with people. I
00:55:46Megancouldn't like if I wanted to go to the gym like I had to be home within a certain amount of time. >> Okay. >> Um just little things like that that's kind of like added up if that makes sense.
00:55:58Megan>> Okay. And uh but you said manipulative too. How was he manipulative? Uh like uh just kind of like made me feel bad for wanting to do something
00:56:10Megan>> like what? >> Like if I wanted to buy myself like a new outfit, he'd be like, "Well, we we got to use this money for >> And you guys have kids, right?" >> Yeah. >> Mind you, you had a kid from a previous partner.
00:56:22Brian Atlas>> Yes. >> Uh so, okay. He's I mean, this guy's already a [ __ ] saint as it is. So, >> well, he didn't really treat my first child. I don't know all the details, but in any case, just off of what you're
00:56:34Brian Atlastelling me here, >> um, isn't it prudent, especially if you're the one who's actually making the money >> and it doesn't sound like you had a high paying job,
00:56:45Brian Atlasisn't it kind of makes sense that he's like, "No, you're not going to buy that because we have to we have rent. We have to pay for food. We have two children." I I'm I'm assuming this guy made [ __ ]
00:56:58Brian Atlasno money. >> You would be correct. Well, then you Yeah, it's like, "Hey, babe, we can't go buy X thing because I'm working a shitty retail job." Of course, that makes total sense. >> But was she trying to shop at like Gucci or like T?
00:57:11Colette Fair>> Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter if he's like, "Nah, we can't afford it." End the story. >> But was it like that or was he mean to you about your choices and your desire for freedom outside of the relationship?
00:57:24Megan>> He he would make it sound like he wasn't mean. Like, do do you know what I mean? like he would just kind of he was very good with his words. >> Did you have friends that you were allowed to go see? Yes. >> So his friends kind of became my
00:57:37Meganfriends. >> Um and one of our friends, >> and this is going to sound bad, who ended up being my second husband, um stopped coming to our house because he said he didn't like the way he talked to me.
00:57:50Megan>> And >> wait, so you started dating one of your buddy's good friends? the friend he was worried about and didn't want her ended up coming. I I know I'm not a good person. Like I'm I'm a I'm a [ __ ] bag. That's a
00:58:03Brian Atlas>> Wait, what's the Sorry. What's the timeline on that? So, you were you were friends with >> a guy and then you started dating >> friend group. She started banging her boyfriend's best friend. >> No, they weren't best friends.
00:58:16Brian Atlas>> Well, they were close enough. >> He still does get this straight. They were not best friends. >> Not anymore. They're not. Truth. >> The two guys. The two guys. You had been
00:58:28Brian Atlaswith both of them >> romantically. >> After she divorced the first one. >> After I divorced the first one. >> Was there overlap? >> Wait, I'm so confused. Hold on. >> Yeah, there was some overlap. >> No, there wasn't. There was no overlap. >> Wait, explain. Sorry, I'm Maybe I'm just stupid. Explain it to me. So, okay,
00:58:41Meganthere's a friend group. >> You slept with one of the guys in the friend group >> after the divorce. >> Okay, I see. Okay. Oh, okay. So, and wait, did you [ __ ] doring?