3 RUDE FERAL GIRLS KICKED OUT?! 1 RAGE QUIT?! Andrew Wilson! DEMON Feminist?! | Dating Talk #153

Date: 2024-04-17

Duration: 6h 03m

Guests

Brian Atlas

LLindsay Graham >

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donation Voice(audience)

SPEAKER_01TTS/Donation Voice(audience)

SPEAKER_02Kendall(guest)

SPEAKER_03Tara(guest)

SPEAKER_04Lindsay Graham(guest)

SPEAKER_05Jaden(guest)

SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_11Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_12Alien(guest)

SPEAKER_13Madeline(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAlien reveals she is "dating a tree"; describes kissing tree bark and taking a man to visit it.

“"hi I'm alien I'm 25 and I'm also from Arizona" / "technically I'm single but I'm also dating a tree"”

ControversyAndrew Wilson makes joke referencing a previous "born again virgin" episode; Jaden accuses him of being offensive to sexual assault victims; escalates into first major conflict of the night.

“"he came to give us no he came to also give us Church"”

OtherAlien describes sugar daddy arrangement where she was paid extra to stay celibate for him; second sugar daddy pulled guns on her when she accidentally revealed the arrangement.

“"I had a sugar daddy and he was paying me more money for being celibate"”

OtherLindsay Graham reveals former life as meth addict and stripper; describes being coerced into abortion by abusive narcissistic boyfriend.

“"I was a dancer and a drug addict while attending church"”

QuoteAlien rates herself 12/10 on looks; claims she will continue getting hotter into old age.

“"I think I am the most prettiest girl in the world... I'm a magic person"”

ControversyKendall tells Tara to "bite her tongue" and submit to a man; group tension peaks before the kickout.

“"I would love to see you in a relationship where you bite your tongue like half the time"”

OtherBrian kicks out Tara and companions after prolonged combative behavior; "get the fuck out... your permission to be here has been revoked."

“"get the out get out get out just get out"”

OtherAndrew Wilson describes the "Great Ho Reformation" phenomenon: women in their 30s who "rode the carousel" finding Jesus and infiltrating churches to meet men.

“"women out there who are getting into their 30s and they've realized that they have written what we like to refer to as the Carousel"”

OtherKendall reveals she had thyroid cancer (stage 3) discovered the night before surgery; was also pregnant; chose to carry baby to full term before radiation. Now cancer-free but wears hearing aids.

“"I gave birth to her at full term breastfed her for 2 months and then did radiation"”

OtherBrian recounts being scammed $2,000 by David Spearman (spearmint social) for Instagram username @BrianAtlas; plays video evidence of scammer.

“"it's been over 7 weeks almost two months since I paid him $2,000"”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions

Guests introduce name, age, location, occupation. Alien reveals she is "dating a tree." Jaden and Madeline reveal 3-year biromantic asexual relationship. Relationship statuses discussed around table.

Same-sex relationship and Christianity

Extended debate between Andrew Wilson and Jaden/Madeline about reconciling their same-sex relationship with Christian faith. Topics: Paul's epistles, submission in marriage, nuclear family, sex and procreation, whether relationship is "just roommates."

Christian communities vs secular: happiness stats

Andrew and Tara debate statistical methods for measuring happiness in religious vs secular communities. Therapy, anti-depressants, divorce rates, polling methodology discussed.

Nuclear family and patriarchy in marriage

Panel debates whether husbands should be final decision-makers. Lindsay and Kendall argue for male leadership in healthy marriages. Tara and Jaden argue for equal partnership. Andrew runs hypotheticals (lasagna, school choice, business investment). TikTok clip of progressive woman lamenting inability to find masculine liberal men played.

Alien personal stories (sugar daddy, guns, tree)

Alien describes: two simultaneous sugar daddy arrangements, one pulling guns on her. Male racist who kissed her but refused to go further. Spending $10k and driving 15 hours to visit a cheating man. Wrecking a marriage; threesome story. Manipulating a man with love letters.

Dating dynamics: who leads, who initiates

Extended back-and-forth with Tara on dating expectations: who approaches, who asks out, who pays on first date, who initiates physical escalation. Brian demonstrates that nearly every step defaults to male initiative.

Self-ratings (1-10 looks)

All guests rate their own looks 1-10. Alien: 12 (self); Jaden: 8; Tara: 7-7.5; Lindsay: 8; Kendall: 8. Debate over objectivity vs subjectivity of beauty standards.

Gender pay gap and women's sports

Quick panel poll: all deny wage gap is significant today. Jaden notes she updated her view after research. Women's sports taking less seriously: briefly discussed.

Beauty standards: male vs female

Debate on whether female beauty standard is more achievable than male. Brian argues female standard (flat stomach, healthy BMI) is attainable by 90% of women; male bodybuilder standard requires genetics/steroids/years of training. Photos shown for illustration.

Tara rage quit and kickout

After hours of contentious debate, Tara and two companions (Madeline's group) stand up indicating they want to leave. Brian tells them to get out (~5:00:36). Three feral girls leave. Remaining guests continue.

Lindsay Graham personal story: stripper, meth, abortion, cancer

Lindsay reveals: former meth addict and stripper in her 20s. Became pregnant by abusive boyfriend who coerced her into abortion at 8 weeks. Thyroid cancer diagnosis (stage 3) discovered night before surgery; chose to carry baby to full term before radiation. Now cancer-free; wears hearing aids due to progressive deafness.

"Great Ho Reformation" at church

Andrew describes phenomenon of women in their 30s who "rode the carousel" now reforming and attending church to find men. Lindsay reveals her own similar background as context.

Brian's $22k scam story (David Spearman / spearmint social)

Brian recounts being scammed out of $2,000 (originally mentioned $22k at intro) by David Spearman and girlfriend Siara Stevens of "spearmint social" who promised to acquire the @BrianAtlas Instagram username. Paid $2k in crypto Feb 22; 7 weeks later no delivery, no refund. Video clips of David Spearman played as evidence.

Transcript

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Staff/Productionaround because I need to talk about something important so I do have to leave you down like push it for like 10 10 minutes be for real though how much

Brian Atlaslonger for real 10 minutes okay for for Reales okay okay Nick I'm going to send you something in the private chat that you're going to pull up into one of the

Brian Atlasinto the Chrome browser I'm going to copy the Dropbox link hold on guys I'm going to send it to you I think this should work what's that your scam thing

Brian Atlasyeah oh yeah yeah yeah got scammed um so pull that don't let it or mute the audio just so it doesn't

Brian Atlasautoplay um oh also hold on I need to send you I need to send you a couple links while I do that Madison can you ask a dating question go

Alienahead um no pressure you got this you got it Maddie what is your biggest

Alienick for the ladies gertude you start can we not call me that Dam alien feel like it's your Elish name

Alienelfish name oh have you ever dated a yet would you ever date a dwarf a little person oh no do you know any little people no I like like for me I like

Aliengrown ass men so I like men that are like kind of like yeah like older yeah how older um I don't really have a limit on that what's the oldest you've dated

Alienlike like would you date like I've been with like a 70-year-old man 70y old man speaking of do you have an objection to age Gap

Lindsay Grahamrelationship I think I think that there's I think that there's a a a gap that could be too far yeah it's probably in like far is probably like the 25 range 25 years like yeah I mean Gap

Lindsay Grahamthat's like a pretty decent ick right like that could be your child and I'm trying to be generous 25 is really generous Lindsay I 25 is generous yeah

Lindsay Grahamare you what are you I at 20 yeah 20 so 30 and 50 you disapprove 35 and yes do you have any takes on that Andrew so yeah well I just will ask if you have

Kendalla moral argument against it or if it just grosses you out just grosses me out yeah mine well and I have a moral if it's like when did you start dating like

Tarais this a 13-year-old and a someone let's say's say like adult relation yeah no I think it's you got the Nick just dick okay just dick he's got and I even

Lindsay Grahamhave a hard time with the 20i it's like 30 picture 35 and 55 not being that ick right and then I I know that I'm 43 so I'm picturing a 63y old and I'm like that's pretty gross too but unless he's

Alienreally good sh when but but like Hugh Jackman but what if we're all looking better when we're 70 right that's right if we're just if we're just looking amazing at 70 I mean I I like for me

Brian Atlaspersonally whenever I'm 70 I don't think I'm going to have a problem with like I think I'm going to look maybe the same maybe a little bit hot this is a quick question for the uh viewers on Twitch

Brian Atlasquick question before I get into the whole me getting scam thing it's quick it's three minutes it'll probably take me three four minutes to explain it um this is for the twitch viewers uh if you put your mouse cursor if assuming you're

Brian Atlaswatching on desktop and not on mobile for the twitch viewers if you put your cursor over the screen do you get like a thing on the right center that pops out

Brian AtlasPrime gaming benefits reminder and then there's a green Dynamic follow button uh do you get both of those it's just something kind of new and then okay

Brian Atlascool cool that was the only thing I wanted to ask there also guys before I tell you about the scam story guys if you're watching on Twitch please drop us a follow and the prime sub if you're watching on YouTube go to twitch.tv whatever drop us a follow and a prime

Brian Atlassub if you have one really appreciate uh all your support over there guys uh thank you for all the follows and the uh primes tonight or the tier ones all the sub Subs uh really appreciate it guys

Brian Atlasthank you so much um okay so let me tell you the uh quick story of how Brian you know I I don't think I've ever been scammed in my life I I usually have a

Brian Atlaspretty good eye for this but I got scammed I got scammed recently here's what happened so here's the story I have I wanted to I have notes so I'm going to be reading from notes so just cuz

Brian Atlasthere's a lot of details and I you know I haven't um I'm going to give you the short condensed version I could show you like screenshots and stuff but I I do have a video compilation that

Brian Atlaswill capture most of it but if you know I have receipts but it's just I don't want to get maybe I'll do a follow-up

Brian Atlasvideo but um so January 20th I received an Instagram DM from Spearman social now Nick can you pull up the first Instagram

Brian Atlasthat I sent you spearmint social and I'm I'm okay so that's the first one but that's the primary account uh just so

Brian Atlasyou guys know and um and uh and I'm I'm saying this because I want to try to prevent other people from getting scammed because I actually ended up getting in contact with with somebody

Brian Atlaselse who was also scammed by this guy so this isn't just like uh you know I didn't just get scammed like he's there's other people getting scammed in this um so Spearman social January 20th received an Instagram DM it's run by

Brian AtlasDavid Spearman and you can pull his Instagram up uh there he is uh you can zoom out a little bit so you can show the yep there he is

Brian Atlasand then and it's also run by his girlfriend Siara Stevens and you can go to the other one that's his girlfriend they both run this social media company that they have uh and they message me

Brian Atlasand they say we can get you at Brian Atlas on Instagram something that would be nice to have uh but I'm not really super active on my personal it's not a huge priority for me but having at

Brian Atlaswhatever almost everywhere and preferring clean usernames and URLs it did pique my interest but I was skeptical and I actually initially waved it off but the guy was super persistent

Brian Atlashe message me almost every day and after a month uh of him and his girlfriend following up me following up with me almost every day he offered terms that I was willing to do he said if it didn't

Brian Atlaswork out I'd get a full refund he said he worked with Justin Waller he had all these testimonials blah blah blah blah blah Nick don't show that while I'm doing oh my God bro why would you oh my

Brian AtlasGod okay Nick come on why would okay so it would take a few days it's

Brian Atlasokay oh my God bro wait so whoever's editing this video you're oh my God thanks Nick he said okay so after a few months of him and his

Brian Atlasgirlfriend following up with me almost every day so offered terms that I was willing to do he said if it didn't work out get a full refund blah blah blah he told me this process would be very quick and it would take like a few days and

Brian AtlasI'd have Brian Atlas on Instagram at one point he even told me he would be able to get it done same day so I accept and we agreed to $2,000 for this and this is

Brian Atlaspretty common price for like username acquisition and then I'd pay him 1,500 after he gets it done so I transfer 1,000 in crypto February 22nd transfer the remaining a th000 a day or two later

Brian Atlasnow it's been over 7 weeks almost two months since I paid him $2,000 back in February it's now April they've not delivered they've been giving me the

Brian Atlasrunaround for well almost two months now say and they'd always say like oh later this week or next week at nearly every single week for seven weeks and again him and his girlfriend told me

Brian Atlasrepeatedly that this would be a quick process and so basically what happens is this guy contacts you off offing social media Services username claims and he does some real work I

Brian Atlasguess to get testimonials from people and maybe these testimonials are fake and these other people are in on it but they use these testimonials to seem legit so they can scam

Brian Atlaspeople so weeks have gone by when you previously said hey we can get this within a couple days we'll do a refund if we don't been asking for a few weeks now for a refund he refuses they're

Brian Atlasmocking me uh in the DMS insulting me in the DM I'll do follow up on that at some point but for the time being um yeah

Brian Atlashaven't haven't got the username still bdas and still um they're still not doing a refund now here's a quick if

Brian Atlasanybody is curious about you know the extent of the representations that he made to me here's a quick two-minute video compilation of just some he would send me video notes see the thing that

Brian Atlasthrew me off right and I I was very skeptical even despite this this most scammers aren't going to show their face right um so Nick can you play the

Brian Atlasvideo oh wait before you do sorry hold hold on this the video includes just just so you know what to look out for multiple times stating how quick the process will take bear in mind I paid

Brian Atlashim back in February it's now April it's been two months uh and that he gives refund so just be uh cognizant of that go ahead my name is David Spearman if you're watching this you might think one of two things one while his username

Scammer Clip / Backgroundclaims and two where is he well to answer one of those questions I'm currently in duai Marina I don't know if you guys can tell in a penous so we'll be able to claim the Brian Atlas by

Scammer Clip / BackgroundFriday if we did it today um basically guaranteed some days it's only two days will Brian get his app today it would obviously be good for your pages for the whatever page it says owned by Brian

Scammer Clip / BackgroundAtlas and just for your own personal brand of course he Brian Ro while as well uh let me know if you get that off get done very easily you'll have the app owned in a couple of days Ryan you an

Scammer Clip / Backgroundask why are we not getting an upot of social issues so if want like and we definitely can get yours we've been ready to go like we're ready to go you see how fast you respond we get you the op brother I have no idea where we

Scammer Clip / Backgroundhaven't got you you're at yet when Justin wired us and we refunded him his money when we didn't get his and we can 100% get yours and you don't need to give anyone a login you would own Brian Atlas you had it by now so if we refr to

Scammer Clip / BackgroundJustin Waller you literally have zero risk of anything and also we have testimonies of people we've done it for many people yo Brian happy Monday morning um let if we are getting you

Scammer Clip / BackgroundBrian Atlas today uh this set up today should have Friday you have literally nothing to lose because I've refund adjust in the 3K payment at once so you have literally nothing to lose the thing maybe Monday and then you'll have it

Scammer Clip / Backgroundlike Tuesday Wednesday Thursday but uh the only reason I was trying to push it the rep had a stot today and he seemed like he could get it done today which is pretty awesome and it would just be done one of the 2K deposits so the deal is

Brian Atlasnow active to potentially have it done by today you're crying over 2K like it's Millions so that's a the last thing there was a voice memo when I was like

Brian Atlasasking for a refund and he says you're crying over two anyways my gosh wow yeah and look um I'm going to be fine I'm you know it's pretty clear and he actually sent me a message because I contacted a

Brian Atlasfew of his testimonials and I was like hey this guy scammed me and I heard from one of the guys who's like yeah I got scammed too oh um and uh and uh I just

Brian Atlaskind of want to put it out there because when I like I googled this guy I did I tried to do my due diligence um and uh you know I just kind of want to make

Brian Atlasthis video not to whine you know not to whine really but to warn other people bro I mean you could you know I'm doing okay but for somebody else like that

Brian Atlascould be catastrophic look I still want my money back bro um so quick couple things here if oh and the other thing like people are like you should

Brian Atlashave been like we had Justin Waller on the show I talked to Justin Waller he he did a claim or something for Justin Waller so it's not like this is a totally a non dude who like his the

Brian Atlaslevel of scam that he's got going on he'll do some legit but scam other people apparently it was all good with Justin Waller who I know personally so yeah you might say Brian you you

Brian Atlasup you shouldn't have trusted him but it's like look you know I knew Justin Waller Justin Waller said hey uh seems seems legit whatever so whatever um I

Brian Atlaswill say if anyone knows any lawyers in Dubai uh this couple David Spearman and CR Stevens they're scamming people out of Dubai and um apparently I'm not the

Brian Atlasonly person that they've uh scammed so uh be careful guys uh just want to put the message out there and uh yeah that's it on that okay those of you who are

Brian Atlaswatching on Twitch guys drop us a follow in Prime sub I'm going to do a raid over there on Twitch I'm gonna do a

Brian Atlasraid let's see here hold on guys is a RAID a pizza party no no we're going to raid let me see I'll do my outro and then I'll raid you guys to let's see who

Brian Atlaswe have we have World of Warcraft Grandma okay we're going to do her Nick if you can get that pulled up I'll start doing my outro here okay guys uh GG well played for

Brian Atlasthose of you who made it to the end here um last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me I appreciate that thank you to everyone who super chats donates and supports the

Brian Atlasshow we will be live again Sunday and Tuesday 5:00 p.m. Pacific any girls who want to be on the show DM out whatever on Instagram if you can make it to Santa Barbara 07s in the chat like I said over

Brian Atlasthere on Twitch we are going to raid uh wo wow Grandma I never can say it right wow Grandma 78 uh she's 82 she plays World of

Brian AtlasWarcraft she's got 200 viewers i' like to I try to raid people with uh smaller viewership on Twitch just to kind of help them out give them a little boost

Staff/Productionum Nick if you can pull that up okay oh what the oh yes we wore big plastic boots that's when I took the guy up and Ranger had me take him up

Staff/Productionwell I'm going to raid her um another raid coming in oh okay so thank you for watching on Twitch follow us on this is 12,000 ft this is a disappointment Cleaver oh she doesn't

Brian Atlashave her camera on it's okay you know where the Cleaver's at no it's fine it's fine we we she's like doing a a uh reviewing some phot photo photo book that's M Baker she has

Staff/Productionno idea that you're M Baker no I think she knows she knows okay I'm going to send you guys over thank you uh Mount Adam thank you for watching on Twitch guys appreciate

Staff/Productionit jny oh yeah well why climbed there so going to going to uh whatever is back

Staff/Productionagain thank you whatever so this is climbing hello whatever this is climbing Mount a um I hope you guys enjoy it over

Brian Atlasthere uh be nice be nice to her okay all right all right you can you can pause it um I don't I don't know I normally she plays World of Warcraft but she was doing like Photo review on Twitch oh

Brian Atlasthat's hilarious of memories so she's she's nice you just like somehow hack into her computer and see yes I hacked into yeah I hacked he just sent his chat from twitch over to her yeah I pushed

Brian Atlasthe the audience over there oh uh I think uh that's it um is there anything else wait aren't we going to be live sooner

Brian Atlasthan Sunday oh we guys yes I forgot uh Andrew is going to be here for some debates uh Thursday probably Friday

Brian AtlasThursday Friday um and then some other cool things are on the work some like potentially some IRL stuff um some anyways um we'll talk about that more in

Brian Atlasa different stream But be sure to uh go subscribe to Andrew's YouTube channel The Crucible the fastest grown debate Channel on YouTube check it out guys check it out

Brian Atlasand uh he's my Caucasian what does that like what do you mean why do you always say that now what he's my Caucasian Spencer is my Caucasian Nick's my Caucasian what is she any white I don't

Lindsay Grahamknow if I could actually Madison you're my Caucasian too and Joe back there you're also my Caucasian she's isn't she an Asian I'm not white she's you're

Brian AtlasAsian I know I know but like for example like Joe oh boy oh oh I see like I'm a white guy right

AlienJoe you could like your fellow say that I'm your oh oh I get you I get you I get you you get it yeah I think I get it am I your do you want me to say it cuz I

Brian Atlashave the I have wait are you going you going to she can say it is that what you were referring to I huh is that yeah like you could be even though you're not a Caucasian you could be my Caucasian

Brian AtlasI get it now oh yeah I get you it's like it's like the the the white version yeah of that thing okay is that is it is that is that like cancel can I get canel for that I think it's no not for I just feel like we should talk about think of a

Brian Atlasmore politically correct thing to say than Caucasian my CAU my Caucasian never heard he's my he's Andrew's my Andrew am I your Caucasian I Andrew friend whoa whoa whoa

Brian Atlaswhoa hold on you're my Caucasian why can't can I say that though or can only you say that no that would be

Brian Atlassay like sorry sorry sorry Madison you can what what could mad my my what I don't oh wait don't say it I don't know I really don't

Brian Atlasknow like do you have a word in mind wait okay anyways uh thank you for uh wait actually I probably is would it be no no good I know what it would

Brian Atlasbe I don't know what but you can give me what's like the first letter what's the first letter no no no okay I'm going to wrap up the show Curious okay 07 07 wait what are we're forgetting something I

Brian Atlasswear we're forgetting something Kendall just do it I don't know why but do you want our handles on Instagram so everybody can follow us uh that's everything's in the description okay 07s in the chat good night guys have a good night

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