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00:03:17Alienthe guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location and occupation go ahead hi I'm alien I'm 25 and I'm also from Arizona uh I work
00:03:28Alienat Amazon um I work underneath my mom for OMG sweet shop and then I also have a podcast with my best friend uh for
00:03:38Brian Atlasmusic what's your government name do I have to say it uh do you do you go by like a nickname that's not
00:03:48Brian Atlasalien or I can give you a hint on like is that is it just not out there your like actual name or even St I feel like
00:03:58Alienif I tell you my name is just sabotaging me and you're also not going to think it's real so is it girl trude ger trud I'm just
00:04:10JadenGNA call you girl trude the rest of the show then okay what about you uh my name is Jaden I am from Arizona I'm 24 years old and I'm a singer songwriter as well
00:04:21Kendallas a photographer I like to build the things and I am also a bartender server all right welcome what about you my name is name is Tara I'm 23 years old I am
00:04:32Brian Atlasfrom Canada and I'm a freelancer what part of Canada Ontario on is that the French speaking part no that's Quebec okay what kind of
00:04:42Lindsay Grahamfreelancing um I'm on upwork I just like help Amazon oh okay we might need poster checks from you when you're speaking to the mic but go ahead my name is lindsy
00:04:52Lindsay GrahamGraham I'm from Arizona I'm 43 years old I am a wife a mom of three a keynote speaker an author and I own a fashion brand called pretty little Patriot with
00:05:03Madelinethis hot little thing over here in pink thanks all right welcome my name is meline I'm 21 I also live in Arizona
00:05:13Kendallcurrently I'm a server but um I also do photography and yeah some freelance stuff but yeah my name is Kendall I'm from Kentucky I'm
00:05:24Kendall37 I am a wife a mom of three a political activist and I own pretty little Patriot with Lindsay all right welcome thank you my name is Ivory Amara
00:05:36KendallI am 24 years old I am a social media manager and yeah that's it where you from oh that's one that's
00:05:46Andrew Wilsonthat's the one I forgot Chandler Arizona I knew I I knew it I knew everyone's from Arizona yeah I know wait
00:05:58Brian Atlasiric she's from mostly everybody is from everyone besides you is from Arizona no I'm Kentucky don't forget kentu you're Kentucky but so everyone else besides
00:06:10Lindsay GrahamI've never been in we discovered this outside that we're all they drove guys we're coming to you live from Flag Staff Arizona whatever's on the road yeah we're on the on the road my uh we could
00:06:21Andrew Wilsonhave cared my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible it's the fastest growing debate Channel on YouTube to my knowledge uh a blood sport B political commentator and I do um also
00:06:33Brian Atlasa lot of political satire uh and I'm from Michigan all right welcome everybody so we're going to go around the table once more what is everybody's current relationship status so are you single
00:06:46Brian Atlastalking stage situationship Friends with Benefits relationship married polycule sex cult whatever it may be what if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever had go ahead so
00:06:58Alientechnically I'm single but I'm also dating a tree yeah a tree a tree what a tree you the audio tree what does that mean a
00:07:07Alientree um there's just a big tree this consensual yeah Tre consense ising the what type what's Tre
00:07:18Andrew Wilsongovernment name there's there's a filia for that isn't there what is the what is's a feeling I'm waiting for him to tell me his name no no there's an actual I don't remember what it is I feel like there's a
00:07:30Brian Atlasbut there's ailia for tree physical hey guys one One mic at a time please okay what kind of tree I don't know I I have no idea what he is but you have to learn more about him and
00:07:42Alienthen Rel I give him like little kisses and then you you said it was a he how do you know the gender of the tree um I believe most trees are are at least in well I guess actually yeah there are male and
00:07:53Jadenfemale trees actually fruit trees are female trees they're deiners and male trees are pollinators are you certain that it's like what if I identifies as a they though that's a great that's a valid question you know I don't know I don't
00:08:06Alienknow love them through and do you have like a physical relationship with the tree like I give him kisses like I kiss my hand and then I press it on him are you being serious right now I am so dead
00:08:16Alienass taking like a guy to go like see this tree with meit another you took another guy to see your tree how did the tree feel about that yeah think that's inappropriate I didn't introduce him as like I'm hanging out with this guy I
00:08:29Alienthink the is jealous I think the tree is jealous this we're going to get into this this is Juicy Juicy stuff how did you get into that me I just like nature so to me it's just like I saw him down the Stree I was like damn he looks
00:08:42Lindsay Grahamreally pretty like how soon is it how early can we walk out of this [Laughter] podcast yeah I'm so I'm just being dead
00:08:54Alienass with you guys by the way what is dead and is Ser I get what is like the future of you in this like what do you hope to accomplish with that I'm probably going to have to break up with
00:09:04Kendallhim soon because I'm going to be moving so a newe plenty of fish in the sea plenty of trees in the forest trees in Forest plenty of fish in the sea plenty of
00:09:16Alientrees in the forest I mean I'm not looking for specifically trees but I saw him and I thought like I said he was pretty so I was like that's my babe and it's a feeling and I felt like he connected with me as well
00:09:30Kendallthat's interesting I I do feel like I look around see a lot of pretty trees and I agree like super pretty but I would never are you happy I am yeah can can we matter bro you guys are enabling this I'm
00:09:45Brian Atlasnotus the most ever sorry bro stop asking your dumbass questions oh let me actually engage with you in good faith bro the
00:09:55Lindsay Grahamwhole tree shit's well you're all about good faith what she's bad F what you I think gertude knows that we know that hold on
00:10:05Alienhold on okay have you had carnal knowledge with the tree I are you just said stop asking huh Can you like explain that but like did you the tree did you
00:10:17Alienthe tree no not yet but maybe one day how would that work I get figure car a hole ien that staff on your I don't know as long as you're happy I
00:10:28Kendallfeel like no absolutely not no this is I got to say like this is I can't sit here this is not right like I truly don't think that she wants to marry a tree I'm pretty sure what makes you think the trees can't consent there's a lot well
00:10:41Jadenone trees there's a science behind plants that they do they can feel when there's a person around them Predator I believe that she's just saying that she likes the tree and she
00:10:51Jadenspeaks with the tree I don't she don't think she I like a tree she's saying she's in a relationship with this tree yeah and then she said her relationship did specify romantic relationship a
00:11:03Brian Atlasrelationship with a tree regardless of romantic or not yeah Guys One mic at a time we they can't hear the cross talk go
00:11:11Jadenahead the question was what is your relationship status and the response was I'm dating a tree she said I'm technically single but I also have a
00:11:21Lindsay Grahamtree nearby down the street from my house is it decidious or coniferous I don't know amateur I I would like to move on to some real relationships if possible okay
00:11:33Brian Atlasso you're single then sure what's your okay what's your dating status with homo homo sapiens Homo sapiens it's uh it's single yeah okay
00:11:45Brian Atlashow long have you been single uh all of my life so 25 years so you're a virgin no okay so you've had some sexual relationships act but it's
00:11:58Andrew Wilsonnot dating what's the long longest consecutive period of time that you've dated somebody it's going to be like pulling teeth tonight dude holy commentor though he says the trees he
00:12:10Brian Atlassays the frogs are gay and the women are humping the trees I just couldn't could help it it was my you could pull it up since
00:12:19Lindsay GrahamAndrew's it's topical all right um Andrew did you see the treesome uh she brought a guy to the tree so it's a trees that was pretty clever it's the dumbest
00:12:32AlienI've ever heard in my life dating a tree I'm dating this microphone what else have you dated I mean your mouth's pretty close um nothing really I have like
00:12:42Alienchildren I have like little like a bunch of like teddy bears okay hold on hold on hold on hold on stop human children how
00:12:50Brian Atlaslong have you consecutively dated a human um it wasn't really like dating it was like a situation ship okay how long were you having sexual intercourse with
00:13:01Brian Atlasa person oh I don't know like six months six months okay so that's the longest uh romantic situation you've had with somebody okay and you said you so you when's the last time you've had
00:13:14Alienanything with somebody do I do I are you currently having sex with somebody uh I complete the fifth we don't have to tell them who it is you you I just yeah because like so you're
00:13:27Brian Atlascurrently romantically involved with somebody done maybe perhaps bro I'm so close to kicking you off the show engage in good faith please you're not going to plead the fifth to a
00:13:38Brian Atlasbasic question about your romantic dating life on a dating podcast you requested to be on the show kindly answer the question yeah but like do I have to talk about you don't need to tell us the details bro it does have to
00:13:50Brian Atlasbe like are you Curr like dating a guy that's the extent of my H out with a couple people okay you're currently dating multiple people maybe
00:14:02Andrew Wilsonokay so so these aren't these aren't gotches I don't see them as up because to me I just I'm I see so it's a world it's a world view thing yeah okay are you having intimate relationships with
00:14:13Lindsay Grahamhuman beings that could be considered sexual by normal people yeah okay Andrew thank you so much so you're cheating yeah man's caining maning cheating just
00:14:24Jadena question answered thank you what about you I am in a relationship and I've been in a relationship for almost three years
00:14:33Jadenand it is my longest relationship by a month how did you guys meet we met I was on Tinder looking for friends cuz I had a bad friend and then I met my
00:14:45Kendallnew life partner so you looking for friends yeah you never done that there's a bumble friends page I assume everybody looking for friends on Tinder is cheating just I the Geo interesting not
00:14:57Kendalleveryone so you guys m could be wrong met on Tinder yeah what about you I'm single um my longest relationship was 2 years and the last sorry I'm single the longest relationship I had was two years
00:15:09Kendalland the last time I did anything was October like the situationship whatever so you've been single for about six seven months yeah okay when you said the last time you did something does that mean situationship what does that mean
00:15:21KendallI'm I'm like I'm so old much older than everybody here okay so you've been C have you been celibate six to seven months yeah H
00:15:31Brian Atlascelibate means no sex right yeah yeah no carnal knowledge yeah okay I've been happily married for 12 years so simple guys that's it sorry boring married 12 I
00:15:42Brian Atlasassume this that's your longest relationship it is yes okay married 12 years is that your first marriage it is not my first marriage no second marriage second and last hopefully and last okay
00:15:55Madelinetill death do us part I mean 12 years is pretty strong that's pretty good on a roll and I'm in a relationship I've been in it for 3 years and it's my longest
00:16:04Brian Atlasrelationship are you two dating yes yes okay I I just wanted to clarify feel like you guys should let him know yeah I feel like that's a key point that would
00:16:14Jadenare you guys bisexual or lesbian or um honestly I she's the first woman I've dated and she just my life partner we're not really like sexually intimate like
00:16:25Jadenthat we just have complimenting char characteristics to your roommates no we share a bed and we cuddle and we kiss
00:16:33Brian Atlasbut we don't involve we don't do we're we don't have sex so ingu this is going to be the best podcast so couple
00:16:43Brian Atlasclarifying questions couple clarifying questions here so uh have you ever dated men yes have you dated men yes um so you
00:16:53Brian Atlasguys consider yourselves bisexual then in a sense biromantic but L I have sex I'm not sex neither of you are sexual but you you guys have said
00:17:03Brian Atlasthat you've been dating for 3 years three years ex have you been monogamous dating each other for three years correct there's been no other women or no other men in that threeyear time period correct that's what that means and you guys cohabitate you live
00:17:16Jadentogether MH yes okay have you guys ever had in the same room in the same bed you guys never had have you guys ever had sex we have and we honestly anytime I've ever had sex in my life it doesn't feel
00:17:27Jadenthat great to me because that's one I'm not married and I'm a Christian and that's not how I be rolling okay
00:17:38Jadenum and then so you guys are are you guys going to get married hopefully we would like to but in heresy Church land or yeah I actually know lots of pastors
00:17:50Jadensorry they're not Orthodox so they don't follow your exact beliefs but if God came to us and actually gave me a convicting feeling I would and we knew
00:18:02Jadenthat God does not want us to be together we've been blessed so much in our relationship we have we came to God together honestly and I mean as much as
00:18:14Madelineeach of us had our you know knowledge of God prior we came closer to God and to Christ since being together and you know if as much as we love each other if at
00:18:25Jadenthe end of the day God didn't want us to be together he brings us a husband and says this is your husband I'm obedient to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ what are your thoughts on the fact that the Bible says that marriage is between a
00:18:37Andrew Wilsonman and a woman well hang on we want to get through we's see if we can get through the the questions oh we're still doing introduction sorry follow back up yeah we'll we'll
00:18:47Kendallcome back to that so uh okay so uh what about you um I've been married for 14 years and I was a virgin on our wedding
00:18:56Kendallnight married 14 years you got married at 23 yes 23 okay I am single and my longest
00:19:05Brian Atlasrelationship was 5 years and I've been single for three years wait your longest relationship was five
00:19:14Brian Atlasyears you've been single for 3 years but you're 23 so this was like a oh 24 for some reason I put down 23 um so this was like kind of a high school relationship
00:19:26Brian Atlasthe fiveyear one correct okay and that was a 5-year relationship yes okay with uh what's your orientation I'm straight straight okay
00:19:37Andrew Wilsonall right Andrew what about you uh yeah I've been married for 12 years I think okay uh well
00:19:47Andrew Wilsonthen Where Do We Begin where do okay I vot go back to this let's go back to this previous conversation we were
00:19:58Andrew Wilsondiscussing um so how do you reconcile the fact do you just decide to move off to your own
00:20:08Andrew Wilsoninterpretation that this is I'm trying to figure out how to how to frame this for the purpose of to that Christianity is not approving of the type of
00:20:19Jadenlifestyle that you have that's my question Christian is also Christianity is also not approving of the type of things you talk about on this podcast um
00:20:28Brian Atlaspeople having this hiccup culture God is this a two quot quo yeah do you want to just answer the question though what was your question again yeah
00:20:40Andrew Wilsonso the the the question is how do you reconcile it even if assuming that everybody else is around you is sinning that in and of itself and not justify actually don't excuse that as sinning
00:20:51Andrew Wilsonbut right that's my point how do you reconcile that well I do believe that we're not in a a wrong relationship this
00:21:03Madelineis the best relationship that I have ever been in I've been a lot I've been in seven relationships a lot of them were really bad um most of them were with men I actually didn't date any
00:21:14Madelinewomen until I dated her she pulled me out of really dark times and I'm the best version I am because of her you could say we're like nuns together then
00:21:25JadenI think it's really beautiful say cuddle and make out and I personally believe even marriage um I believe Apostle Paul in
00:21:36Andrew WilsonCorinthians it says that man it says that man and woman and man must with man nor woman so I think it's
00:21:45Jadenpretty rude that you also he also says no we he hates us now because we I don't I don't I don't hate you I just we're having a conversation um but you you interrupted it's cuz which mean automatically means you don't interrup
00:21:58Andrew Wilsonme so which means she doesn't respect me so anyway back to this I don't respect you good then it's the feeling is mutual go ahead cool you're not a very Godly man yeah well I don't know I'm not the one making
00:22:10Andrew Wilsonout with someone in the same sex in a bed we don't make out we don't make out we hav't K said you make out and cuddle in the same bed what you talk about kiss kiss and we actually haven't even made we haven't kissed once this so you just
00:22:21Jadenroommates that's that's what it is just roomat there's so much more that goes into anyways what I was saying about Corinthians thank you very much is actually marriage Apostle Paul believes
00:22:33Jadeneverybody should stay single and if you want to get married it's because you can't control yourself and your sexual desires and that is also what he means by submitting to each other because you
00:22:44Jadenare the human race is so disgusting and wild that we want to everybody what so we we need to what not everybody wants to do that that's that's true the
00:22:55Brian Atlashookup culture I'm generalizing like they do and um I feel like it makes sense wait why is the human race disgusting what were
00:23:06Andrew Wilsonthose your words they defin when Jews and Gentiles the Gentiles were not that's how the state we're in right now H up culture yeah but how is this not perpetuating that same that same state
00:23:17Andrew Wilsonof Degen anyway marriage was only is brought because men and women can't control themselves so you need to pick one person yeah the opposite sex is what Paul said he said you must take a wife
00:23:29Andrew Wilsonyou must take a wife if you can control yourself to men you must take a wife he specifically forbade Mandalay with man a woman with to lay with woman in Corinthians this is why I don't believe
00:23:40Lindsay Grahamin can I can I ask you girls a question um if you let's say you cut the kissing out Kendall and I are like we're besties man like we would love to do everything
00:23:51Lindsay Grahamwith each other all the time what's stopping you guys from just being best friends if you thought that the Bible told you what Andrew is exactly saying that that is to be man and woman why
00:24:05Lindsay Grahamcouldn't you two just say well let's just stop kissing and then we're best friends and we are the best relationship ever but now our relationship is biblical what's to stop that that's kind of where we've been heading to okay and
00:24:17Jadenin that case I would not be pursuing anybody else for the rest of my life me as well and I mean and I would not want I wouldn't necessarily want to be pursued unless I literally knew God said
00:24:28Lindsay Grahamthis is your husband why not just become a nun yeah would you consider yourself asexual I prefer not to have sex so maybe yeah yeah why not just be a n that make sense I can be is there something in your past that
00:24:41Jadencaus but I'm not Catholic is there something in your past that causes you to dislike sex I know that's personal I'm sorry but no that's okay uh yes I've been sexually assaulted on multiple
00:24:52Jadenaccounts but it didn't stop me from wanting a man when I was younger as I just got older like graduating from high school I just realized I didn't want
00:25:01Jadenthose sexual connections and to me since I have been sexually assaulted and that is how I lost my highman so I know I
00:25:11Andrew Wilsoncan't get it back because somebody took it from me so in that case your funny joke remember and it was a funny joke it wasn't it was it wasn't it was really a funny joke because you're a man and you
00:25:24Jadenlike to make jokes at the expense of other people's emotions oh okay I'm sorry what makes a joke funny something that makes you laugh you're not funny to and it made me laugh
00:25:35Jadenso it was funny to you yeah well it made a lot of people laugh thousands upon thousands of people it made thousands thousand we have you here to tone police us thank you so much I believe you're on this podcast just to insult women and
00:25:47Jadennot actually to learn anything about women you talk about how women don't want an average mediocre man or that men have such a hard time getting laid and maybe that's because your focus is on getting laid what yeah I I literally don't talk about
00:26:01Andrew Wilsonany of that I don't know what you're talking about he does oh yeah how do you know because I watched the podcast a second ago you were you were attributing that to me so clearly you don't watch the podcast I do watch the podcast then why would you attribute that stuff to me
00:26:13Jadenbelieve she's referring to a comment you made in one of the episodes which is I probably like three episodes ago I think was it three episodes ago maybe the hman
00:26:21Andrew Wilsonone I think so right I saw it on Tik Tok yeah that was that was super funny to well so talking about born again virgin yeah right and this particular woman
00:26:33Andrew Wilsonhappened to which is the real thing Jesus way happened to be a yeah Jesus want you to be so anyway um yes the the Heyman Comet there's no born again virgin and she was an only fans uh
00:26:46Andrew Wilsonprostitute I I watched the thing and you said oh yeah can you get your himman B that's a lot different than do you know one and three women have been sexually assaulted does that mean that one of three women have been sexually assaulted and that's what removed their Heyman a lot of of women have lost their him in
00:26:59Andrew Wilsonthat way no I don't think they have actually yes they have no they actually haven't you're lying through your teeth I'm not lying through teth you are what are the stats then for women who have
00:27:09Jadenfrom go ahead tell me she's a hang hold up I'm not a feminist you are feminist because that statistic no I'm really not a feminist statistic I'm not particularly
00:27:21Brian Atlasinclined hold on his joke I'm not a feminist his joke I don't think women should do whatever they want with their bodies I finish my statement cool hey stop one person at a time but I don't
00:27:31Jadenthink he should control everything stop his joke had it was had nothing to do with essay yes but it was insensitive to people who have been through essay but you don't understand because you're a man and you've literally never experienced the things that women
00:27:44Brian Atlasexperienced this is a fallacy this is actually a fallacy men can't be aay it's a fallacy that you're a man and you don't know what women have experienced it's a fallacy to say that I'm not allowed to have an opinion because of my sex that's fallacious it is fallacious
00:27:57Jadenargument ation I can't have a position on something because you know what I do have I have you can have an opinion but it doesn't mean it's facts it seems you put all your opinion as a factual
00:28:08Lindsay Grahamstatement like like I said you're not through learn from you I'm I'm going to be a little bit controversial here because I should be on like team woman but I think it's not fair to be offended
00:28:18Andrew Wilsonby a joke about a Hyman when it wasn't your Heyman and it was a joke about he also proceeded to say women AR funny and can never be funny and that's why women didn't laugh that joke true because you're here tone policing and being a
00:28:30Lindsay Grahamwhne ass about jokes I laugh all the time and I find people funny what what do you laugh about have men tell me I'm funny all the time I don't I the joke was about a prostitute not a sexual assault victim and I I hope I'm not
00:28:42Brian Atlashearing you like say that she wasn't sexually assaulted right this conversation is all over the place his joke had nothing to do with so so like the your logic wa wait hold on hold on stop interrupting let me say one
00:28:55Brian Atlasthing let me say one thing your logic here is a bit failing because you're you're reaching you're you're reaching for he made a joke about let's say he made a joke about sex and you you're
00:29:06Brian Atlassomehow coming to the conclusion if you make a joke about sex or bodily uh Anatomy that that's somehow always going to be related to women who get ESS your
00:29:18Jadenlogic no it's the fact it doesn't lead to one or the other no no it's the fact that you were talking about born andagain Christians and some women did not lose their virginity by having sex for pleasure and in that case no they
00:29:29Andrew Wilsoncannot get their so that wasn't that actually that makes it funnier how so in both cases in both cases the joke works if you're saying God made me a born
00:29:40Andrew Wilsonagain virgin okay me asking did God give you back your Heyman how in the world would that be offensive to sa victims or
00:29:50Andrew Wilsonprostitutes why would you say that to an essay victim he didn't she's asked question my my my question is why would that actually be offensive to one though if you did say it to an sa
00:30:03Andrew Wilsonvictim it actually would be offensive you didn't so it's not the why but but you're not hearing me because an asking if God gave it back to you how could that be offensive because they didn't choose to have it taken away I get it but what does that have to do with God
00:30:15Kendallgiving it back to you I don't even feel like I don't even understand these men also don't believe wom say the joke directly to her so that's not the situation but if he did
00:30:26Brian Atlassay it I don't even feel like it's worth engaging on their level because your joke wasn't even about essay she's reaching but it's still but even and she's trying to deflect from the
00:30:38Brian Atlasconversation about how does she reconcile your relation if if you're consider yourself Christians if you guys consider yourselves Christians it's a fair question to ask how do you reconcile that with your faith that's a
00:30:52Brian Atlasfair question if you want to like if you want to deflect by like bringing up you this is a really bad faith thing where you just try to like deflect a hundred
00:31:02Brian Atlasdifferent things his joke I answered the question no no no no no she didn't because she immediately went well what about Christians who do XYZ that's not actually addressing his point I'm not
00:31:12Andrew Wilsonsaying that I can have a relationship with a woman because other people are sinners okay great so then how do you reconcile the fact that you're in a same-sex relationship and consider it a
00:31:24Andrew Wilsonrelationship you said we're just best friends yeah no I asked you you said no said we're just roommates and I said yeah we can be that I said well that's what it sounds like but you said no yes yeah so then that to God not to you
00:31:37Kendallaccording to her it's not she doesn't view it as roommates but for your definition of what roommates would be you can apply it to them yeah all right I have a question then you guys are well
00:31:48Brian Atlasyou it's I'm a little confused because you guys said you were maybe waiting for sex until marriage no we didn't say that you okay maybe I misheard maybe I Mard definitely do um a l but you're not have
00:32:00Jadenyou you guys have had sex though which is this lady said for you to fix that one little hanging piece of hair that you have I'm anyway yeah back to this I I
00:32:11Brian Atlasjust asked you a question what did you ask did you guys come on to troll no absolutely not yeah you're being like you're being a bit too belligerent for the otherwise good faith question that
00:32:23Andrew WilsonI'm asking what's your good faith question the good faith question Lally still trying to figure out how you make this recation let me okay he he said he asked something that was what you asked sex until marriage something about don't
00:32:36Brian Atlasleave that and we said no I literally answered your question about the sex till marriage but you guys you if I recall correctly you guys did have sex and we and we don't feel right about it and we don't have se you don't do it
00:32:47Brian Atlasanymore thank you yes but are you guys desirous of getting married honestly I'm not I don't even know but
00:32:58Brian AtlasI just want to be we romantically involved are you desirous of potentially one day getting married I would want to get married but I mean at the end of the day it depends
00:33:11Madelineon what God wants from us and I'm not going to and so do you and so you guys do you want kids foster foster kids okay but so you're not desirous of
00:33:23Madelinehaving sex with each other or potentially sex with other partners no moving down the world I feel like you waste a lot of time if you focus your energy and mind on sex you can do a lot
00:33:35Jadenmore with yourself if you just open yourself up and when you find people someone that has complimenting or like you know an opposite traits of you so that you can come together and create beautiful things beautiful work
00:33:47Brian Atlasbeautiful business beautiful life and if I hold on if I recall correctly if this is my understanding one of the reasons you guys don't want to have sex is for
00:33:58Jadenreligious reasons is that correct and I just don't really like sex kind of grosses me out all the stuff is it the same for you or is there is there a religious component to not wanting to have sex I mean the religious component
00:34:12Madelineis kind of in the back of our mind it's a yes but at the same time we don't feel right it's a very icky thing to do and you know we feel convicted so yes at the end of the day it is a religious thing
00:34:23Kendalland I feel the same way having sex with men if that makes sense okay but we are not here to tr yeah I had I didn't like having sex with men either so do you ever think that it was maybe the person that you were having sex with was just a
00:34:36Madelinebad like it was a bad situation no in some cases gross and aggressive and painful also had some good men here hang on I hear you out because you're saying it's gross and
00:34:48Jadenaggressive and painful those are all words I don't like the bodily saliva thing and I'm also I feel like you're supposed to have sex when you want to procreate we just have sex to have sex and that's kind of why I said if can't control yourself yeah take your husband
00:35:00Kendalltake your wife you have you have been in a situation with sa and so I feel like for you you're viewing sex from that Viewpoint from I was attacked I was abused sex isn't only for procreation do
00:35:12Andrew Wilsonyou think that husbands and wives should only have sex for as many times as they want to have babies then why do you not believe in premarital sex that's not what I said if sex is not only for marriage ni could you close I mean sorry
00:35:23Kendallsex we're talking about it through a religious pris though because God between a man and a woman yeah but but husband I'm sorry husband and a wife premarital sex in general yeah I I get I
00:35:35Andrew Wilsonget what you're saying but you have a worldview conflict so we're trying to speak within within a worldview that she claims she has I claim that I have that you do not have So within this worldview
00:35:46Andrew Wilsonshe justs are slightly different cuz you're orthod she just said I'm just the adaptation of the worldview versus secularist would' be much harder for them to understand it than for you to understand it so within the confines of
00:35:57Andrew Wilsonthis you say sex is for procreation right yes I agree but you would not agree that but in Genesis that me let me finish the question let me finish the
00:36:07Andrew Wilsonquestion but you would agree that inside of a marriage having sex external to only having children is not a bad thing right if the man and woman desire it then yes but I do believe there's several people even who haven't been um
00:36:20Andrew Wilsonsexually assaulted that don't have a desire to put do that they just don't I think there something for that's I mean but come on that's not very common most
00:36:31Lindsay Grahamof the time married couples and couples have sex did they all get sexually assaulted that's totally exception exception you can't you can't go from like a few women don't like sex bring up
00:36:44Andrew Wilsonsexual assault but I was you're are you are you have you done something she's not just answering what what I'm just saying why are you so offended by that like honestly because because of the graphic nature of it you has to be very careful about how it's phrased on the
00:36:57Jadenchannel I said sexual so I didn't never say the told me use essay in essay okay but he's still going say what the is your problem with that was the false accusation you were about to make I wasn't going to false accy I was
00:37:09Jadenquestion what were you about to say implication for sure why are you getting so defensive about sexual assault what were you about to say n that's not what you were about to say it's not
00:37:21Brian Atlaswe I know so I know what were you say this is why the podcast takes 6 hours yeah I know no because you're about to throw out a very serious accusation um no it wasn't an accus it
00:37:33Jadenwas going to be a question no you were about to ask have you ever done X right that's what you were about to say have you ever made a girl feel uncomfortable is what I was about to say and is that why you are so offended I'm just wondering why you're so offended have
00:37:45Jadenyou ever made a man uncomfortable yeah totally do you do it a lot maybe so you're the perpetrator um it's not on purpose it just it just Happ I think men feel uncomfortable when women question
00:37:55Andrew Wilsonthem it's just by accident sure no okay I don't just sit there and go oh my gosh sounds sounds like you're the perpetrator here sure
00:38:07Lindsay Grahamokay oh wow I'm sure he wanted me to argue with that don't need you to argue with that I'm happy with that answer how did we all get speechless how did we all get speechless on this topic I want to I
00:38:19Jadenwant to go back to the generalization bullet there's no you are like the king of talking over everybody that's good because most you have nothing good to say listen I were women were women no no
00:38:29Jadenthey literally do not respect wom I'm not dumb that wasn't not you're like you're going to get canel you're a bigot and that's all if every single T
00:38:42Jadengets up by who the rainbow pride parade what are they going to do there are different levels of being smart you can be okay your your behavior is actually you're you're Brian acting dumb and uneducated you're so educated but you
00:38:54Andrew Wilsonact like a little boy oh really the cancel culture Queen over here I'm the one who's the problem I'm not I don't canel anybody listen you're a goding no I I pointed out the
00:39:06Andrew Wilsonjoke as his character he has bad character it's com and a brat but if I say a word about it I'm the evil villain you're not an evil villain yeah good then stop whining and let's have the
00:39:17Kendallconversation we're having a conversation who's whining been doing is whining I've been keeping the sameone the whole time you're literally just ax man think she's whining what because she's whing about often what
00:39:30Andrew Wilsonhappens is when women are made to feel uncomfortable they have two options the first option is they could argue but they suck at that so they usually got option two which is to whine and complain and be Bratz and talk about
00:39:42Jadennonsense how long have you been married for oh my wild to me thank you dude he is not a real man did you just not he is not and he is not he wants a
00:39:53Brian Atlaswoman to do whatever they want not real maning in you you're a you're a biological man bra sh hold on stop stop stop everybody cease with the ad homs
00:40:06Brian Atlaseverybody stop with ad homs we're going to try to get through this podcast without it having to devolve into like personal attacks every five minutes go ahead okay speaking of personal attacks
00:40:18Lindsay GrahamI would like him to go around the table and tell us exactly who he thinks is dumb on this podcast cuz I've I've literally just tried to move things along just drop it I told everybody to stop if we question them we're wrong
00:40:31TTS/Donation Voicethey can question us we have to answer all their questions if we ask them it's your private life $200 Andrew Wilson get I just didn't realize you guys were actually this bad
00:40:41Jadenanyway my sprinkler goes like this I'm trying to you I agree with the com Jesus would not agree and I'm very upset and I'm sure he is too comes back like to tell it to your priest who marries your
00:40:52Brian Atlasyour preacher or whoever it is okay no my priest just understands that he doesn't have enough knowledge of the Hebrew language to act like you you need to stop the Hebrew language you
00:41:03Brian Atlasguys need to stop we're going to stop devolving into ad homs we're going to stop having meta conversations I tried to move things on why are you bringing it back to a meta conversation and trying to like let me
00:41:16Brian Atlasmove the conversation on so he can have a show by the way don't ask him don't ask him to go around to every table and state why everybody's D only called the person I was
00:41:28Lindsay Grahamthat's what I wanted to hear is that you cuz you generally said you all are dumb I wanted to hear that that was you know we're going to stop having meta conversations we're going to get into
00:41:37Brian Atlasthe actual content of the show this is the content no it's not okay act like you don't want all the drama not really not really okay did you
00:41:50Brian Atlashave a different question that you wanted to ask or was that it nothing at all okay this all started because you made y y y yo did you did you not just hear what I said cease with the meta conversation do you know what a meta
00:42:02Brian Atlasconversation is no Andrew conversation about the conversation we're going to cease having meta conversations let's actually get into the content okay okay
00:42:11JadenGod damn holy that was just an intro man of God mhm he's not not I've heard him say it which means he's he doesn't identify as a Christian so don't
00:42:24Brian Atlassay you're a man of God then it doesn't matter he doesn't he has he called himself a man of God with her with her parents or whatever wait so hold on now now you're saying that well hold on whoever I'm questioning you I'm
00:42:37Brian Atlasquestioning you because you took the lord's name in vain guys please don't uh high horse on this like come on you guys are not we're not highing
00:42:48Brian Atlasyou high horse as well if you want you guys are not you guys yourselves are not level men so we can't act talking stop interrupting I'll submit to you yo you've got a really nasty
00:43:00Brian Atlasattitude for this show to work you can't be interrupting you can't be having medic conversations you can't be like throwing out these little quips and Jabs do you
00:43:09Brian Atlasunderstand what are you doing so we're allowed to be interrupted but by as the so first off not by he wasn't he's not the host correct is that correct okay you interrupted me interrup you're
00:43:21Brian Atlasinterrupting me now interrupted me first I'll try I wanted to make it clear you're the host we yield to you will try to limit Interruption from everybody but I was in the middle of talking and you
00:43:32Brian Atlaswere interrupting me this time yes I'm done now bro you got a bad attitude holy you immediately started you no you also have a bad attitude let's keep going I don't you've
00:43:45Brian Atlasbeen I've been trying to get this back normal back straight but you you got a bad attitude what's the next question can I talk about my 12-year
00:43:55Taramarriage no not juicy enough can I talk about my virginity um Nick what's the first thing that we're going
00:44:05Brian Atlasto let's let's do some of our reacts first if we can hopefully we can try to uh you want that
00:44:15JadenInstagram we're all going to be okay oh I'm totally fine you too
00:44:28Brian Atlasokay that's funny soccer player kaka's ex-wife that's a weird name but says she divorced him because he was the perfect husband uh next Nick what and this is apparently a quote from her and I've
00:44:40Brian Atlasseen this all over the Internet he says Kaka never betrayed me he treated me well he gave me a wonderful family but I was not happy something was missing the
00:44:48Brian Atlasproblem was he was too perfect for me she needs therapy so treated me well this guy I assume he he was a soccer player he's probably
00:45:00Brian AtlasRich successful gave her a wonderful family um but she was not happy something was missing the problem was he was too perfect for me so I want to get the panel's reactions on this do you
00:45:12Brian Atlasthink that you know ending a marriage that especially involves children because she uh she wasn't happy because he was too perfect do you think that's good pretext for a divorce and the end
00:45:25Alienof a uh breaking up of a family ending of a relationship no I think like I just think people need to have their
00:45:34Alientogether or whatever before they step into a marriage honestly so I don't agree where where she's coming from for not being happy like you can't just walk
00:45:46Jadenout after having kids if that's really what she said um I feel bad for the man I have to agree I think she probably
00:45:57Lindsay Grahamneeded some therapy more so than just leaving the family correct I think um people both men and women are too quick to decide that minor issues and not being per and being perfect is not a
00:46:09Lindsay Grahamminor issue it's not an issue at all people are too quick to toss away the beautiful arrangement that God has made which is man and wife and children and a nuclear family so shame on her if it's true right this is the media we don't
00:46:22Lindsay Grahamknow what is and is not true or what there is behind closed doors or absolutely the truth so but that quote sounds terrible yeah yeah that's her quote that she could have made something up at least like for real yeah we could
00:46:34Madelinehave validated but no leaving a man for being perfect is bad disgusting wrong yeah I agree with that I mean it doesn't really make sense if that is what she really said then I don't agree with it
00:46:45Madelinejust cuz everybody goes through stuff and you can work through it if it's a you know a family that you're talking about at the same time you should you know think about your kids first and try to work on it I'm goingon to go a
00:46:57Kendalldifferent route I think it sounds like she's struggling with something so I feel like is she this is a big accusation is she feeling like guilty for something that she did and she feels bad because her husband is a great man
00:47:10Kendalland she doesn't want to pin him in a bad light so she's like I'm just going to dip out now but he was a great guy no I like that you brought that up just because I feel like a lot of women feel like they have a really good man but they are missing that spark and it's
00:47:23Kendallunfortunate now that she has children and kids also and that brings a whole different thing but she should have probably figured that out before they got married and she
00:47:34Kendallprobably had something in her head that said I should not marry him but he's a great guy he probably has a good job he's probably showering her with all his attention not talking to other people
00:47:46Kendalland it's it's poor because he he just picked the wrong woman at at the end of the day but there was probably signs somewhere in there between yeah can you move your mic to the corner please yeah absolutely uh Andrew your
00:47:59Andrew Wilsonreaction uh yeah it's all I mean it's all but too common so often times we see this happen over and over and over again where we'll see these women especially
00:48:08Andrew Wilsonwith high-profile uh men say this kind of stuff right oh I just I just don't like him anymore conveniently enough they also happen to not like him and
00:48:18Andrew Wilsonwalk off with millions of dollars of his money so it makes me think maybe there's an ulterior motive behind it other than saying sure the perfect man now give me the millions but I mean I'm sure the money doesn't hurt I that's the reason
00:48:32Andrew Wilsonshe would have walked away from a whole family it could be I mean if you if you had to guess if you had to guess if somebody said ah you know he's perfect in every way I just adore him but you know I'm going to leave him and take
00:48:45Kendallmillions of dollars of his money so I'm saying I agree money doesn't hurt but I think the reason she doesn't want to stay is probably cuz she wants his money no she needs therapy I don't think she's happy with well how she
00:48:57Kendallwe're not sure if they don't they they might have a pre I feel like a lot of celebrities and high profiles have prenups put in place as well so we don't know what the end up surprisingly far fewer than you think
00:49:09Kendallthen that makes them dumb right you do but I mean when you get don't disagree with that this is pretty Dum the day so I think if anything they should sign the prenut based off of whatever you make after when you are together keep in mind you guys she's probably not walking away
00:49:22Lindsay Grahamfrom her family more times than not the women get the kids so she's leaving her perfect husband possibly penniless and childless probably fighting for rights just to see his children and the only
00:49:33Kendallthing she's saving him is not slandering he has she he still has half of his money it's still not an easy decision he's not Penn no PO that poor girl is I just can't believe it I I feel bad for
00:49:45Kendallher it's terrible okay so she is wrong I'm not saying that she's not wrong but it's still not an easy decision for her to make like she's making it because she needs help she doesn't realize that she's not happy with peacefulness and content M she she needs some turbulence
00:49:58Kendallin order to feel like she matters or whatever PS she needs she has traumatic experiences need therapy that's it but I don't think she made the decision I don't think she made the decision to leave her family because she was like I want money let me just go get money then
00:50:11Andrew Wilsonwhy you tell me why would you break up your family with your kids because hang on with your kids the kids being the primary thing here walk away from the
00:50:20Kendallfamily break it up destroy the lives of the kids and take the money because in her mind she's thinking I'm not happy here this is going to be the rest of my life yeah and she doesn't want that oh
00:50:32Jadentoo bad for her not necessarily about the money she not saying it's good you're arguing with her when she's just giving another option of what to fight me on a point that I'm not fighting you on what about her Duty what what do you mean what do you think her duty is I
00:50:45Kendallthink her Duty even if she's unhappy even if she's unhappy he's not doing anything wrong she made the vows they have children I agree with you but I don't think she leaves only because the
00:50:55Kendallmoney I think she leaves because she needs therapy the money is just a bonus you are so obsessed with women taking your money time she's not saying like oh I I I don't like him because he's so amazing
00:51:08Kendallbut the money was just really really really tempting and I just like the money more than him that's not what she's saying she's saying he wasn't enough despite him being perfect because she's not enough and she needs help the money was probably a bonus she it didn't
00:51:20Andrew Wilsonhurt you both agree you both agree that she should not have left she's you're just saying shame on her and she's saying she needs I'm say don't need the bridge I just want to dive into this why do we immediately assume that it's therapy and she's not just a selfish
00:51:33KendallI mean that is I mean which you need therapy for if you're a selfish you need therapy why cuz people can how fix yourself how do you know that that's going to fix think a selfish is going to sit down there and finally have some self-awareness to be like you know what I'm a selfish
00:51:46Kendallno sometimes you need to go to a therapist and have a therapist be like you're a selfish the thing that's funny therap calm down are you going to jump in every time I have a conversation with anybody I thought we were allowed to disagree
00:51:58Andrew Wilsonyeah can you calm down till we're done having at least our back and forth is that okay sure are you sure for you okay thank you it's very kind to you you're so welcome so anyway when you talk about therapy a lot of times therapy will
00:52:09Andrew Wilsonexacerbate situations like this in fact you have a bad and I wouldn't surprise me if the reason she left is because she had a therapist who said you got to do what's good for you girl you got to do what's good assumptions here do
00:52:21Kendallyou understand you're making a lot of assumptions too about therapy I said is that she needs therapy cuz she left the how do you know she's not in therapy and her therapist in to her to do it that's an assum she is then her therapist is bad that's an assumption though no it's
00:52:34Andrew Wilsonnot I said she needs therapy that is not an assumption but if the therapist says to him okay you know what you should therapist is a poor one a therapist is who are you going to qualify what's a poor not a poor therapist there a lot of bad therapist I feel like we're now
00:52:47Kendallarguing about the therapist and the whole comment was about what she said and regardless of why she said it she's leaving her spouse which is a horrible situ problem here is is that you're just
00:53:00Kendallassuming that she left solely because of the money which I think is like a really weird thing to think when people don't genuinely think like that right maybe the bunny is like one factor but they have a whole family you think a woman's not going to think about the entire
00:53:11Andrew Wilsonfamily that's exactly why I think she has an alternative motive because if you were actually thinking about your family the last thing you would do is leave a man who you say is a perfect man break up his family break up your children's relationship with a father and take a
00:53:23Andrew Wilsonbunch of money unless you didn't actually give a about that I completely agree with him I just disagree with the way that he's saying it the tone but I completely agree with you the reason why it's so frustrating
00:53:35Andrew Wilsonto have uh women inside of men's spaces immediately is because it's always tone policing who cares about toone policing why do you think toone policing who cares about toone policing because it's
00:53:46Kendallabout the approach on how you talk to someone it's about what's being said not how you interpret it no that's not true actually intention lies within your just a bunch of feminist Bullit I'm not a feminist care about
00:54:00Andrew Wilsonthings different a time one at a time one you come over now Johnny it's about that I'm going to say it exactly how it needs to be said hold up go around the table raise your hand if you're a
00:54:11Lindsay Grahamfeminist cuz I'm not oh we'll get to that in a minute proud feminist okay so by by us saying that we tend to want to agree with you but if we could just deliver it in a way that just get you to do it how we want oh I'm sorry there's
00:54:24Lindsay Grahamno interrupting right remember there's no interrupting each say something and we can agree with you but let's say it in a way that actually makes a difference and you're oh tone police tone police not tone policing you we're saying how could it
00:54:36Andrew Wilsonnot be a t police if you literally are saying to me I agree with what you say I just don't agree with the tone in which you said that's not how she said it that's not how she said I said I agree with what you're saying I don't like how how it's being delivered right you don't
00:54:49Andrew Wilsonlike the tone it's literally tone policing you say that was nothing she totally they all agree with me they don't they don't like that fully say that no I just don't like the delivery system you think women only
00:55:00Lindsay Grahamleave because of money this one and this one no I think why would she leave because of money if he really was perfect she would stay because then she has the husband the kids the house and the money exactly that's more of a win
00:55:12Kendallfor her to stay why do you why do you think she's just leaving because of money so you don't that's what he's saying you don't agree with him no what he said and tell me if I'm wrong what he said was no woman should leave her her
00:55:25Kendallchildren a husband who's supposedly perfect in any situation I don't care if she needs therapy or not she shouldn't be leaving that's not what he said he said it the reason she left is because of money no
00:55:38Andrew Wilsonthat the alternative motivation if you're looking at the alternative motivation for looking at the evidence that's in front of us you literally agreed with me if we say she goes well the husband's perfect everything is
00:55:50Andrew Wilsongreat it's just that I just have to break up my whole family and walk away with millions of dollars of his money you said yeah I could see that that that being
00:56:00Andrew Wilsonmotivation then you moved over to then you moved over to she needs therapy my counter to that was well maybe she's in therapy or therapist told her for all you know I did not say that you didn't so it's not it doesn't sound like a
00:56:12Kendallpowerful motivator money no not if you're already with a person who's making you perfectly happy like she just said and already has all the money in the world why would you need to leave him and then take some of his money with
00:56:22Kendallhim cuz here you want to go find yourself girl that's not money BOS that's what she thinks and that's why she needs therapy but that's not exactly the alternative was not for money
00:56:34Andrew Wilsonjudgmental it would be great if she just left it with him what do you mean well I have a feeling she's not going to just be like well I'm going to leave and not take any the money she's going to take the kids with her maybe or maybe they got joint custody
00:56:48Andrew Wilsonbut I guarantee he's going to be paying a lot of money so you don't think he should be paying any child support I think that if you did she C clean rub his back rub his feet for a lot of years take care of the kids oh my goodness first of all that's a whole who who
00:57:00Andrew Wilsongives a if she did she's sitting at home on her Pamper Das where her kids are at school getting taken care of by other people who gives a pampered ass yeah pampered you don't know exactly what she's going you don't even know what women actually my goodness I don't
00:57:12Jadenknow what women go through that's not what you didn't even let me finish my sentence you started saying something probably p no hit me no that's what I thought so anyway back to where we were at I have the man statement remember
00:57:23Jadenwhere we inside what the honestly lost my train okay Andrew's trying to be a good sport here you just again did an
00:57:33Brian Atlasad hom do you see every woman good sport you should you should you don't know the definition what's the definition of good sport oh my God bro I'm trying to bring