FERAL GIRL ATTACKS ANDREW?! Gets KICKED OUT! HATER Marxist Feminist STORMS OUT?! | Dating Talk #234

Date: 2025-03-17

Duration: 8h 12m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAndrew Wilson >

KKenzie (Montana)>

AAndrea (UC Merced)>

AAshley (Softball)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Jen Stone(guest)

SPEAKER_04Kenzie (Montana)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Tia(guest)

SPEAKER_10Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_11Ashley (Softball)(guest)

SPEAKER_12Priscilla(guest)

SPEAKER_13Andrea (UC Merced)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Sarah (DNP)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduced

ControversyKenzie opens by calling Andrew a rapist based on marital consent comments

ControversyPriscilla drops F-slur and cracker, gets in Andrew's face. KICKED OFF.

OtherKenzie walks out mid-show

Key MomentAshley: never had boyfriend, never been on date, 600+ hidden Hinge matches

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Jen Stone, Kenzie, Andrea, Priscilla, Tia, Sarah (DNP), Ashley (softball).

Kenzie Calls Andrew Rapist

Based on marital consent comments. Heated debate on consent reversibility.

Priscilla Kicked Off

Drops anti-gay F-slur and cracker on stream. Physical confrontation with Andrew. Kicked off.

Kenzie Walkout

Walked out mid-show after feeling shut down.

Ashley Never Had Boyfriend

Never had boyfriend, never been on date, 600+ hidden Hinge matches.

IQ Test on Stream

Jen attempts IQ test while slightly drunk. Gets sample question wrong.

Transcript

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Jen Stoneyes yeah the most and maybe so the most lik comments are the ones that are least mentally ill no I would say she's not maybe mentally ill maybe there's a bit

Jen Stoneof dulu there delusion on who her and she's not there to defend herself so she's talking about the feminist I mean she's no the girl that's not here

Jen Stoneprobably a bit more well spoken than she's well spoken yeah but the whole r word thing I would yeah I but the thing

Andrew Wilsonis is like I don't but yeah the girl leg ill she has a legate wellth thought out ideology whether you agree with it or don't agree with it which I don't right

Andrew Wilsonit's at least a legitimate ideology that is well thought out and so therefore if it is legitimate and well thought out it runs like a social plague in people's

Andrew Wilsonminds so my job is to refute and destroy that ideology so that this plague cannot spread see my issue is when you have people like that person on the show it

Jen Stonemakes it seem like this is a normal generalized Viewpoint with women when you say a normal generalized Viewpoint for Marxist feminism in colleges I don't know what Marxist means so I don't know

Andrew Wilsonthat yeah well you not having the requisite knowledge to know these ideologies are real and are prevalent has nothing to do with the fact that they actually are yeah they really actually are and they really actually

Jen Stoneneed to be refuted I've never met anybody in in my existence of 37 years that have viewpoints like that so I just don't think it's that normal because

Andrew Wilsonwell here's the thing you anecdotally saying to me well you know I haven't met anybody in 37 years who has views like this I've met people all over the world that have views like this cuz you debate people and y'all bring on people that

Andrew Wilsonare going to have good view when I would just to make bring views I've been paying attention to politics since I was like 16 in fact less than that I was riding around the car with my dad listening to Rush limbo on his car when

Andrew WilsonI was a little kid okay I've been listening to these lunatics for years and years and years very few people combat their ideology and do it effectively just cuz you don't know it exists but at the same time you're like is decadent hang on hang on society is

Andrew Wilsondecadent is breaking down and I just want to leave and go in in a field and grow some [ __ ] food with my friends and Escape it's because nobody's combating the very ideologies that want you that you want to escape from and so

Andrew Wilsonsomebody says okay well I'll battle that ideology the first thing you do is go how dare you no how dare you just because I don't know what the word m whatever word you said I don't think the general population knows what that means

SPEAKER_07Jason Castle donated $200 there two other chats after this you are so dumb make a clever insult I insulted you by attacking your intellect essentially

SPEAKER_07calling BS on your claim of having a 140 plus IQ it's true show me your picture LOL WTF show me your picture of L thank you Jason Cassell for the uh message I do appreciate we have show me your

Brian Atlaspicture we have two more coming in thank you Jason casselle uh guys if you're enjoying the stream please like the video uh Lucas chair one honey with that FAA stop making fun of men's appearances that you've never seen and stop calling

Brian Atlasthem mentally deranged many of us are married to women way out of your league in every way continued to which he says oh hold on there's another one that kind of got interrupted by this Lucas so

Brian Atlasthere's also a lot of husbands and wives who watch show TP Bri hold on Brian stop stop Brian and Andrew are like Rome and chair one got the Carthage treatment chair five here's a little diddy Sarah

Brian AtlasSarah Storms are brewing in your eyes Sarah Sarah no time is a good time for goodbyes that's a poem for you I guess okay and then Lucas continued saying including looks wise we don't hate women

Brian Atlaswe hate your kind of woman finally if you want to talk [ __ ] find me on X and how me wife look same username tell me if I would even look at you if I was

Jen Stonesingle okay Lucas um my response is first of all you said I was insulting I haven't really insulted anyone I don't think um um and what is my type of person person hold on hold on hold on

Jen Stoneyou said Bri's podcast is more evil than only fans pretty big insult I say it was more evil just as social media social

Brian Atlasmedia I'd say no mod daily is this a mod daily like oh let me forward this like completely contentious position now let me walk it

Jen Stoneback because it's back you literally are saying no you're okay you're this podcast is viewed all I'm not even on the same Viewpoint and I see this

Jen Stonepodcast all the time that's cool so you're popular I don't watch only fans what I'm just saying it's pretty popular and like it's spreading like Andre I'm

Jen Stonenot saying you're bad at Andrew Tate I'm saying there's this there is rhetoric and it is being spread and we're making us more and more repulsed by each other and I'm trying to help that out so I

Brian Atlaswant there to be a fix cool you want there to be a fix so my show is a response to the overreaches of feminism look the reality is I'm not going to go on some long monologue as I've gone on

Brian Atlasbefore on this but you have to understand feminism has its clause in pretty much every single realm of society the people who are speaking like me who are talking out like in when it comes to anti-feminist rhetoric we are

Brian Atlasthe minority we are the counterculture the mainstream is feminism and it's not just like culturally culturally or socially mainstream it's backed up and propped up by every single system system

Brian Atlasand institution in this country you have the university system these these universities with billion doll million doll endowments you think I have influence with my little podcast here

Brian Atlastrust me the feminist studies and gender studies and all the These Arms of NOS NOS the university system billions of and there's you it's interesting you

Brian Atlastalk about brain only stop stop let me make my point so you have women who go into these universities mind you every single University or college in this country has a woman studies a gender

Brian Atlasstudies or a feminist studies yes it does no I'm saying stupid I'm saying that's stupid they should but it does and there needs to be a counternarrative because if you want to you these these

Brian Atlasuh students these young adults are paying thousands tens of thousands even six figures at a very young impressionable age and you think I'm

Brian Atlasbrainwashing my predominantly like 20 to 30y old male audience some you know it's actually I think 25 the demographic is 25 to 34 35 to 50 uh excuse me 4 44 you

Brian Atlashave 18-year-old women who are like often times required to take like a feminist studies course like as some sort of like General class or something I don't think they're required doesn't matter there's like tutorials like they

Brian Atlasget brainwashed in other ways that's brainwashing that's brainwashing at the institutional systemic level nobody's forced to watch my show nobody's forced to come on my show so you have the university level billion dollar endowments at all these universities

Brian Atlasthat feminist studies program then you have corporations feminism is absolutely sunk into corporations then you have journalism seeped into journalism you have the news seeped there it's in the

Brian Atlasentertainment industry Hollywood is absolutely in the grasp of feminism and then you have the government yes even in the government feminism has seeped its

Brian Atlasclaws into that too so this idea this idea that my podcast is doing is doing any sort of harm when I have 5,000

Brian Atlasviewers on average when that no I mean it live live you have 5,000 viewers yeah I I understand that my reach is greater than my live audience but this idea that

Brian Atlaslike oo this one really bad podcast is like talking about like men's rights issues and disagreeing with women whereas here let me ask you look men you have I'll make it super simple listen

Jen Stonemen's issues is important but the way yall go about it is not ites females no no sometimes it's repulsive like you're generalizing women

Jen StoneI do care about men's rights okay which ones yeah that's right I dude I'm not I was about to answer you're laughing at me I do I

Brian Atlasthink that women should be drafted if there's going to be a draft that's not aent right that's how women's that's how women's is Equalization that has nothing to do with men's rights what about what about men What men's rights do you care

Jen Stoneabout what no I agree about men being okay and what I'm doing what men's rights do you care about nothing you have nothing men and women's rights I care about nothing have

Tianothing men don't have any rights other than being drafted that aren't interesting okay interesting okay you had something oh and no I I do agree hold on I want to let her in for a little bit I know that Obama made it so

Tiathat y'all could get um the baby changers in mail bathrooms as well for husbands so that could put a positive energy to being a father and enact that

Tialaw so that they could be positive and that's a right for a man to be able to take care of his kid in the bathroom like a woman in my opinion okay I do agree there are some things I do think

Jen Stonethat there should be a fraternity test before someone has to pay child support that's not whatever I'm just FX like please don't make fun of me

Brian Atlasum there are things she correct you okay why are you not talking [ __ ] wait why are you not talking [ __ ] to her I would appre okay let me look let me ask you a couple questions do you think that

Jen Stonethere's a patriarchy um I think there's issues on both side I wouldn't call it a pat patriarchy okay do you think uh women are oppressed I don't think we're

Jen Stoneoppressed I think there's social things that are an issue are men oppressed I don't think men are oppressed okay uh are you

Brian Atlasokay yeah okay I think me pointing out that she said fraternity is well you didn't wer the only one point out she's okay if if you know she's done she's done so

Brian Atlasum let me ask you this uh do you think I just mess up words it's okay I just want to make sure clarifying I was just clarifying about the the anyways so uh if you were walking in the woods would

Jen Stoneyou rather come across a bear or a man I answered this question stupid because I think that um statistically there's only three to five uh bear deaths per year

SPEAKER_08why are you crying I it wait it might it might be a good for a break it was the dyslexic thing she corrected you yeah I don't like that how

Brian Atlascould the Marxist feminist correct you like that it's okay you can take a break that's fine it's not a thing I just look we can't hear you if you're not speaking on the microphone if you're going to that's fine you can take a break you can

Jen Stonetake a break but if you're speaking we have to hear you in the microphone okay okay I'm good I just needed a break that's fine that's fine you if you need longer you you're welcome to take longer my issue is is people correcting me when

Brian AtlasI get words wrong it's okay don't worry about it it was a we were just clarifying we're not we're not harshing on you

Jen Stonelaugh what no you laughed I saw it that's what upset upseted me well I give me a second that's fine that's

Brian Atlasfine okay here I'll do uh here we'll do a couple okay guys if you are uh you want to get a readin it's 100 TTS is 200 uh $200 for the TTS also like the video guys if you're enjoying the stream also

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Brian Atlasus you can do so venmo cash app uh whatever pod now let's see here we have uh I'm going to pull up Lucas is message oh wait I thought I saw one come in

Brian Atlasthat's weird um one sec guys oh also big Leia matter um just thought I would throw that out at this opportune moment and we were G to you know what Let's do

Brian Atlaslet's uh pull up the dating app review because we have a note here from Tia from I I from your dating app okay where is it did I say your name right by

Tiathe way I go bu te tea my bad okay yes yes uh okay I going to cry are you am I going to cry yeah I could cry about it

TiaI'll make somebody cry before I cry uh make it uh control mouse yeah perfect uh can you read it for us that's yes hi I'm T this is a very short inversion of my

Tianame I don't do friends with benefits I heart tips and Subs Graham honey t103 y'all get that if we not going on a date don't swipe right cuz y' already know um I like to roller skate if you broke I'm

Tianot the woman for you cuz I do not go 50/50 my biggest um Flex is I got poetry published and being an award-winning promo model um

Tiafor 20 friendly and um I don't smoke nicotine and I like to be in charge shopping and double dates and cliff jumping and my favorite type of dates are my favorite types of dates and

Brian Atlasoutings um yep I already said that I don't go wait so just a couple questions here so you don't go 50/50 love yes but you like to be in charge so like when you say you like to be in charge what

Brian Atlaslike what does that mean like you got to do what I tell you to do um wait can you just I'm going to adjust your mic can you like straighten it like this okay so when you say you're

Brian Atlasgoing to tell the guy to do you going to do what I tell you to do like give me an example um if I'm hungry and you tell me you're not doing

Tiaanything you should probably go give me food and I'mma wait and see if he'll he you know offer cuz you know pretty princess hungry but okay yeah if not I'mma tell her but sometimes you know

Tiawhat else should a guy do should he pay your should pay I should have to should he pay your rents should he pay your bills um bills bills no that's probably going to come when I'm like engaged or married or something cuz I I can handle

Tiait myself I feel like maybe if my career wasn't so much fun and I didn't love doing it as much I would depend on a man more for that cuz sure getting money to

Brian Atlasdo what I I actually you know what I don't know if this is even a contradiction because you said you like simps but you want to be in charge so you want a guy to be provide but not from a position of like he's like really

Brian Atlasmasculine he's a provider he's going to take the lead you want it to be from like a more subservient like he's a s and you're going to boss him around yeah but

Tiaalso there's a negative connotation with like the word simp the reason I like to use it is because it scares a man a away that isn't going to put in any type of effort or be there to listen or who is

Tiaonly there to want to have sex you know so um what wait when you tell man I like simps I like men who are going to do what I want who worship the ground I

Brian Atlaswalk on do this this is and that worship worship the ground you walk on okay would you say like Gomez Adams is a s I can't remember who that is was that

Kenzie (Montana)from Adam from Adam's Family oh wow did I just myself no I know who that is which Adams Family variation uh the r Julia op par which one is it which one

Kenzie (Montana)is that I don't know what else what like decade um probably '90s okay mhm yeah would you say Gomez Adams is a s yeah okay like I just want my man obsessed

Brian Atlaswith me like maybe she hasn't seen that version Perhaps Perhaps um so wait so okay guy you want a guy to go not go

Brian Atlas50/50 you want want to pay for stuff you want to S but you also want to be in charge and he has to worship the ground you walk on yeah so when you say in charge like you're going to make the

Tiafirst move and stuff um probably not I would say maybe you know I'm not going to say nothing but I'll like a look so he has to do a VI like they'll be a Vibe you know what I'm

Andrew Wilsonsaying change the split so wasn't Patricia Adams a virgin though so mortisha Adams mortisha sorry put pretty confident since the show ran back in the 50s that that's how it was

Kenzie (Montana)portrayed right don't think in the movies that I bet you would know the 50s rendition better than I would so I don't know so you're saying men should only for virgins no no I'm just saying like

Tiait makes more sense that he was way into her that's all I mean some sometimes like you I think men can tell when a woman has more going for herself

Brian Atlasthan like other women like you want to be in charge but the guy has to take all the initiative he has to make the first move he has to go for the first kiss he has to move things forward he has to pay for dates do you want do

Brian Atlasyou want chivalry too yeah like most huh like you want a guy to like open you want the guy to like open the car door be a gentleman maybe you want flowers not really okay no flowers

Brian Atlasthat's fine you want a guy to open the car door maybe pull out your seat for you to sit in would you guy would you want a guy like if a guy another guy disrespected you on a date would you want him to like fight you on or sorry

Tianot fight you fight the other guy maybe not fight cuz like I I don't want like any repercussions for them personally like legally or anything but I would definitely want them to stand their

Tiaground talk to the person who's running the establishment like do all that extra stuff to defend your honor right but I'm not I would say that could definitely lead that could definitely lead to

Tiaviolence if somebody defends right but not the gentle giant that I love and well I mean how's he going to defend your honor if it doesn't risk offing making sure he lead a premises and there's a freaking repercussion right so

Tiathen that could lead to violence for him no we can't if you go to somebody like what are you talking about if somebody's disrespecting me publicly they're causing a public disturbance so they're going to [ __ ] freaking leave am I

Andrew Wilsonallowed to say f yeah it's okay okay so yeah they're they're going to they're going to leave yeah but what I'm saying is that whatever guy you're with he goes over to a guy and he's like hey you don't talk to my girl like hang on hang

Tiahang on hang on you don't talk to my girl like that that does put him at risk of bodily harm the second he does that yeah well I feel like that's also does

Tiabut want to put do that but it puts him at risk to do it right it does yeah that's Brian's Point okay yeah that's pretty good valid point I guess but most

Brian Atlasmen want to stick up for their woman and be um you said that the word simp being abused and ruining love mhm so men should be simps mhm guess how how are we defining s like sucker idolizing mediocre [ __ ]

Tiaoh I didn't know that was a AC oh I didn't know that's what that's what it means that's crazy mean sucker idolizing mediocre [ __ ] I've never had anybody tell me that but I don't think it's I

Tiadon't really that's the I think he made that up I feel like some urban Dictionary what it means that's where it came from I think so that's crazy I I promise you that's what it means but

Brian Atlaswhat was the question well so I guess mov on to the next thing you said that you you like modern dating and you hate it at the same time because when you were on Bumble you've had like 4,000 potential matches and out of those 4,000

Brian Atlasonly 200 reached your standards so I think that's 5% if my math is right so like only 4,000 matches only uh 200 of them reached your standards so what are your

Tiastandards um they're kind of I want to say no come on tall it's tall and rich

Tiano tall is one intelligence is another one I'd say like hustle and drive is it doesn't even have to be rich it's like the the first man I ever how much let me talk I just want to know how much

Tiacuz I asked you questions you answer not my question how much how much does he need make it don't matter right now it don't matter cuz I'm making my own bread it's if he can take care of me like it's not even it's not even like what you're

Tiamaking cuz I'm not moving in with you or being engaged yet right now it's like how much are you willing to invest in me as a person not as like what you making in a year cuz I really don't care cuz the first that me just like give me a

Tiasandwich and [ __ ] like that I mean give me a sandwich like I put on there take me shopping cliff jumping trips there's other things you could do to show a woman that you care about her if he takes you shopping you pay h no well

Tiathen well then he has to make something what do you mean how is he going to take you shopping without money I'm trying to tell you there's no limit on it for me because the amount don't matter for minimum the

Tiaminimum yeah yeah like if if I feel like to take probably take it take over at least 120k a year to do what the things

TiaI like to do and you expect him to pay to spend 120 a year no I don't how much do you expect him to pay I think he should be investing in himself doing what he needs to do to progress in I'm

Andrew Wilsonjust asking for you for the beneficiary how much do you estimate this man's gonna have to spend in order to take care of you yearly to I can't give you that cuz I just roughly I can give you

Tiawhat I spent on myself a month when it comes to my nails and my hair and all that um nails hair um sometimes flights I'd say it's

Tialike 1,000 like it's a whole another bill okay so you want him to spend at least $11,000 a month on you no it could veryy like it's but like there's no

Tianumber I put on it like that's like that's kind of like the fun part for me and the part that's important is seeing what they will do like on their own like it's like I'll tell you but it's like after a while it's like you should know

Andrew Wilsonthis is what I want this is this is how it's going to go okay well maybe I can frame it differently let's say man makes zero money okay okay what ways would he invest in you that you would see him as

Tiaa potential partner even if he's making no money like making no money probably like cuz my my promo modeling I'm an independent contractor so um I push myself and um do reviews for other

Tiabusinesses so if he was helping push my business I am a brand ambassador for a nail girly so if he's giving out cards for me and stuff that's an important one

Tiaum the the um probably the trips and excursions is a big one but it can't take you on trips with no money oh right so you're telling saying with no money

Tiawhat can hang on into the mic end the mic yeah you're saying with no money moneyone yeah no money um not [ __ ] right support no he could support me do you value

Tiacompanionship like just support me in my business continue to thrive in whatever he's doing even if he's making zero money if you are still driving for something like if you're doing real

Andrew Wilsonestate or in school or doing something so he can benefit you by like doing business leg work yeah okay and he could also benefit me in like picking like cars you could pick me up are you ever going to take this guy out on dates with

Tiayour own money I feel like I may pitch for excursions what does that mean like there's a Bas sum and I pitch in maybe

Tialike 30% so you're not going to pay for the date no no cuz I I am I'm I'm the prize I I'm not I'm not bringing anything to the table because I'm the guest of all so the guy with not a lot

Andrew Wilsonof resource or almost no resources he can assist your business by doing a bunch of leg work for you but he essentially gets zero out of it right he gets to be with me in my pres but is he

Andrew Wilsonwith you yes he's just in your presence I think are you don't get to exp you are you hooking up with that bum are you going to hook up with that bum yeah yeah you're going to hook up with them if I'm if I love you and you

Tiacontinuing to support me even in when you have zero money cuz when I get with you you going to have some money I'm going tell you that right now you mean when you hook up with them no when when they asked me for my information I'm not going to get with a bum period but if

Tiathey ask me for my information and I got them and they're very driven and they got a job at the very least but then they have no job I'm I'mma stick it out because I see that they were there when they had okay now I think we've

Andrew Wilsonestablished a floor base so to get with you yes what's the minimum amount for that there isn't one you just got to how like I said well there is a minimum there has to be a minimum one probably a

Tiathousand you have to to a thousand what you said on excursions like food nail hairs like I I feel like I said a th

Tiaalready like that like you like you asked me like what was everything overall like in a month mhm and I said it like $1,000 or a little more um cuz

Tiayeah and like fat like I like to I'm On My Feet a lot as a model so I like to get foot massages and other things so it's like if I'm going and I already scheduled he could just pay for his and he could come with me and I'm not going

Tiato expect him to pay for it you know what I'm saying so I feel like it's like a it's like a mutual respect but at the end of the day I want you to be a man I want you to have money yeah I want you

Andrew Wilsonto want good for yourself if I got money you w have money but how much money should he have at least as much money as you eventually if you are on a path to

Tiahave more money than me that's valid cuz you don't have less money than you

Tiawe might have a discussion about so you do want your guy to end up have making more money you okay but right now it's not super important still hella young you know what I'm saying so we still got time to learn and these men get the

Tialuxury of being in your presence and helping your business yes and coming to things with me like I've done um like a lot of events and they just get come

Andrew Wilsonwith me you know whoever can I ask you something like let's say that you do you do you like uh are your parents both married um no my my well my mother is

Andrew Wilsonmarried now but they're divorced do you know your father pretty well he's a kind of kind of yeah I'm his firstborn daughter so he kind of kind of a little bit but he's not really around too much

Tiaokay when did when did that happen um young like probably like six basically your mom raised you yeah okay got you military mama okay what what branch uh she's in the army

Andrew WilsonSergeant did she move around a lot yes she did yeah yeah that's how that works right different stations milary brat yeah military brat okay uh did you go overseas um not with her no she just did

Tiaokay okay so so but just backing up um does your mom have male friends who've been like a part of your life for a long time um yeah they're not hella around but uh she has a she has a husband so

Andrew Wilsonit's like do you have a good relationship with him yeah okay okay so if if he was sitting down right with his son mhm would you advise his son to date

Andrew Wilsonyou I think if you're dating well I mean do you think he should advise his son that he should date you if he the son's like Dad I'm looking for the right girl

Andrew WilsonI think that's weird sister I'm kind of in I'm kind of in the middle of of different thing let's say you weren't related you just know him okay yeah yeah okay so you just know him right but would you if he was telling son right to

Tiadate a woman like you is what I'm asking I think if if you have the means to date a woman like you cuz a lot of the time the men who are bums and don't have no money don't have a car they're just

Andrew Wilsontrying to have sex they're not trying to look for a relationship they're not like that sure yeah so and they're seems but doesn't that seem like it's way easier than getting your [ __ ] coffee and

Andrew Wilsonpromoting your business and as a man that could be your opin spending thousands of dollars on you in the hopes that maybe something will happen rather than just going ah I would just Smash If I can and then find a woman who's way

Tialess work than that I don't think so cuz I'm a I'm I have a lot of goals and I'm very driven yeah men don't care about goals They Don't Care About You Financial they do they don't care they don't give a [ __ ] see this is what she

Jen Stonetalked about generalizing care which majority of people need uh two incomes to make house a lot of men want to be stay-at home dads these days they don't yes they do most people most people

Andrew Wilsonmarry in the same socioeconomic status that they're in that's true because that's what women will marry is at least a man who is within who is within the same socials econ or higher they usually

Kenzie (Montana)marry up actually I'm just talking about people in general not women not men but this makes my point thises my and nobody's disputing

Andrew Wilsonthat either both of these make my point so they do care if they can care listen man the man themselves don't care that much about women's economic goals they don't care about them if they can't afford rent and they want a family then

Andrew Wilsonyes they do why are they not marrying poor women they do well we just agree that the majority marry the same rich men marry poor wom but but you contradict yourself here because you say they marry people based on proximity I

Andrew Wilsonagree they marry people based on proximity usually the people that you're going to meet are going to be at like work sure they're going to be in areas like this so they're probably going to be making around the same amount of money you do but men do marry poor women

Andrew Wilsonespecially rich men marry poor hang on marry poor women all the time women do not marry poor or uh rich women don't marry poor men and women of good uh high

Andrew Wilsonsocial economic status they usually still marry up not down that is the case and I think that's good I mean I I'm I'm just asking if men don't really care why

Kenzie (Montana)I mean obviously agree because of proximity because of proximity that's who they have access to yeah that's who they have access to if they had access to only poor women they would marry them okay yeah don't you agree um I mean no I

Kenzie (Montana)I think uh within today's society that uh most people generally want someone who uh at least is able to to take care of themselves yeah but or take care of

Andrew Wilsonthem but I think it's mostly women women seem to want to to uh have men who make more than them and Men seem to care less about if women make more than them same as them or less than them they don't

Kenzie (Montana)seem to care as much I I don't know I I think a lot of women really do uh invest in what they perceive as potential um you know either he's starting a career he's doing something new he's not making

Andrew Wilsona lot of money um and then they kind of grow that together but it depends on the age bracket that you're in yeah sure but I'm just telling you that if most men if

Andrew Wilsonyou had to pick the choice smoking hot 10 uh Starbucks Barista right who treats you well you you can marry her right and she makes almost nothing you're going to

Andrew Wilsonbe taken care of for the rest of your life or you can marry kind of like the uh three who makes as much as you right or a little bit more than you maybe they'll take the 10 Starbucks Barista if they have money if they do yeah well if

Andrew Wilsonthey if what I'm saying is if they have access to it they will yes if they have that access if they don't have the access they won't because they don't have the access and I feel like that ties into

Tiawhat I was saying because this man had has access to me when I'm very selective with even who my friends are so it's like it's very yeah but the man who's in

Andrew Wilsonthe situation where he can have access to you based on the huge list and criteria that you have has access to other women like you and all they need to do is just be less obnoxious or whatever from their perspective I'm not

Andrew Wilsonsaying you're obnoxious I'm just saying you really don't think I'm obnoxious at all I'm not saying you are I'm just saying from their perspective all that they would have to do is say okay this woman over here is has less negative trait than this woman does for the same

Brian Atlasamount of investment they're going to go for that okay then he don't love me for real he's looking for something else so uh you said women are the prize yeah and then Andrea you agree with that I think on the previous s you said women are the

Andrea (UC Merced)prize yes why is that because so first of all the men reach out to us right most of the time so obviously we're the price period that's

Brian Atlasliterally the answer yes us it's starting to change and hopefully it'll change more and more and more there are women that's actually the best argument I've heard for women being the P it's a it's a good it's a decent

Andrea (UC Merced)argument you you ask us to go out to dinner you pick us up if I thought you were the prize I would be doing that for you for a guy you know it's like but I'm not doing that for a guy this is this is but it's really funny that you bring

Andrew Wilsonthis up right because I don't think it's a great argument I think that this is rooted in cultural tradition right that is based around around an kind of a

Andrew WilsonRemnant idea of not quite chivalry but something close to that uh came from um kind of 16 1700 uh you know Europe European

Andrew WilsonCommonwealth Traditions when it came to courtship of course men always approached women and they had to go through the father they had to go through the family things like this and there's a remnant of that that went over

Andrew Wilsoninto American dating and European dating but that's become eroded eroded more and more and more and more and more and it's funny when women [ __ ] kind of about Andrew Tate but Andrew Tate's

Andrew Wilsonpopularity is because he's like nah you don't have to do that it's not important if you work on yourself and you end up with a bunch of cash and you end up um in really good shape and you kind of up

Andrew Wilsonyour level right women will come to you and he's right they will so the and his proof for this which is pretty decent proof is that the men who are in a

Andrew Wilsonreally high socioeconomic status right and good fly women out from all over the world whenever they want to and they're contacted by them just based purely either on fame or money or things like

Andrew Wilsonthis so he seems to have a great Point here that women will be the pursuers if you are in a higher socioeconomic status that you put yourself in so he's like why waste your time pursuing them when

Andrew Wilsonyou can do a b and c and then the women you actually want pursue you there's a lot of resistance to that but he seems to have a very valid point for from my

Brian Atlasperspective once uh we have her back we'll get into some of the rest of the show here um so uh I guess are you coming back or okay so uh ask everyone

Brian Atlasto rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10 you can't pick seven starting with you go ahead six okay a five

Andrew Wilson10 nine The Sisterhood was bet betay I saw that I saw that I saw that you betrayed The Sisterhood elbow right there you

Andrew Wilsoncan't hide that [ __ ] from me I see everything what what she was doing like this she was doing like well she's like 10 and then she says nine she was like what the [ __ ] she like what the [ __ ]

Brian Atlasbefore we explore that let's have you answer go ahead eight okay six six Andrew what do you give yourself four I give myself a five um damn so I mean you wanted evidence of The Sisterhood you

Andrea (UC Merced)like you did girl no I just expected her to say 10 because she's a models I mean have you seen it looked like you were disappointed like plus

Brian Atlassiiz models are yeah so it's I I mean this idea that like if you're a model air go like you must be a 10 I don't understand that I think so like what if I'm a model am I a 10 I mean you could

Jen Stonebe a model if you want to yeah there is a lot of Instagram models out there I just have to to say it doesn't mean you're an actual model and for the for the for the 10 for the 10 and the nine

SPEAKER_08it sounded like you almost wanted to say 10 though um there's like a smidge of humility in there came up and she was just like cuz I could see it she was

Brian Atlaslike a n like like if Andrew's talking you got to Yes um

Andrea (UC Merced)so 10 do you think all women are tens do I think all women or tens M or should they view themselves as tens I guess yeah I think they should view

Andrea (UC Merced)themselves as tens okay are all men tens are all men tens honestly I I don't really like I don't know I don't want to like answer these

Andrea (UC Merced)questions that's kind of the point of theast I know well it's just um do I think all men or tens um they could think that they can think of themselves as tens I don't know but like I don't

Andrea (UC Merced)like are you saying like if I find them attractive like to them T like every guy internal metric is yeah for what a 10 is I don't do I think every guy's 10 I I

Brian Atlascan't say yeah is Brian a 10 no okay well then not every guy's a 10 but all women are tens um think you you could be a 10 like yeah no but are all women tens like you

Andrea (UC Merced)acknowledge I guess they could rate themselves as 10 but do you think all women are tens like if she thought she wasn't a 10 and she still like if people think that she's not a 10 I mean and she waits herself a 10 I would be like okay

Brian Atlasyou're a 10 you know you go girl okay and uh and then do you think all women are well you said you were nine so I don't know if you're going to say that uh do you think women should like rate

Tiathemselves higher or I do think women should rate themselves higher especially when like the reason I rated myself a nine instead of a 10 is because I'm not exactly who I want to be yet and I know

TiaI can have there is a better version of myself in the future so that's why I didn't rate myself as a 10 and I also have like things I'm working on myself like mentally and physically and stuff

Brian Atlasso okay yeah that's the main reason uh I do have a question on this um can you guys tell me for I want to do for the the 10 the nine and the eight can you

Brian Atlastell me a someone that we could Google like a guy it could be a celebrity could be just some dude on Instagram um who you think is your looks equivalent my

Brian Atlaslike yeah that you think it' be like okay we're like on the in the same league in terms of looks like a celebrity yeah yeah like tell me a guy who you think is a 10 well I'm you no Tom

Andrea (UC Merced)Holland I don't know I can't think of one right now I'm like well tell me a guy that you think look is a ten in looks but not look like um Henry Cav like you don't need to look like let

Brian Atlasthem huh come back to me you are part of it but I'm starting with with okay who's a guy who you think is like uh a nine a nine name

Tiayeah Trevor Jackson Google that please Google Images I don't even know who that is he was um the man on gronish and he was also on Austin and Alley which one

Tiaon gronish he uh he was he that's him oh he was Austin he would be a 10 if he cut that thing oh that

Tiarat the rat ta yeah brought him down a bit scroll down yeah okay he's so fine

Tiaoh but yeah yeah the rap tail it may it I it may go as he grows but if it stays that's cool for him you know what I'm saying but that's who I feel like my

Brian Atlasequivalent is is that chat do you think that's a fair assessment like looks equivalent it look I it could be I don't know um and then do you have a guy who you think is a

Andrea (UC Merced)10 yeah there's like an artist like that I listen to yeah yeah his name is Chris Palace okay we can pull him up yeah I think he's a 10 it's usually bad if they

Andrea (UC Merced)bring up musical artist but we'll see how this goes this guy yeah he's that okay yeah that's like his more

Tiarecent look right there with the black hoodie he doesn't have colored hair right now uh no very fashionable you know no no you know how he was saying Thug you know

Jen Stonehow he was saying you sitting there like a thug I don't know weird it's pretty like the eyebrow thing I don't know it makes it difficult because he's got like a kind of um like

Brian Atlasatypical sort of style to him that makes it difficult to do an assessment here um also is there a component here where you're like you really like his music so that's going to like amplify your attraction for him yeah he has good

Brian Atlasmusic yeah is this scale just based on appearance yeah mhm just looks yeah that's it oh I was doing other stuff okay okay um and then going around the table and oh I forgot how to show you I

Brian AtlasI'll come back to this to the back there to figure out how to pull up all the stuff from Discord but uh do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time so going around the table you're 37

Brian Atlasdo you think you'll be better looking in 10 years at 47 no okay and you're 37 do you think you were better looking 10 years ago at 27 no uh and so better

Jen Stonelooking now at 37 um I'm on the decline I'd say 33 34 was the peak okay so uh

Brian Atlaslet's say 33 your Peak going back to uh 23 better looking at 23 or 33 I don't know if you remember like the

Jen Stone'90s and 2000s it was very bad stylish and makeup wise so I would say 37 you I

Jen Stonewas born in the ' 80s um I grew up in the '90s late when I'm saying she was no I'm saying in my early I'm saying the

Brian Atlas20 early 2000s the you would have been 23 in like 2010 2010 yeah it's 2025 right okay what was

Jen Stonethe question again uh what age sorry okay so comparing your Peak at 33 yeah going back 10 years better looking at 23 or Peak 33 Peak 33 I had horrible style

Brian Atlasand the emo haircut and all that all right uh Kenzie you're 30 better looking do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time at 48 okay uh 20 years time 58 no okay and then going backwards

Brian Atlasyou're uh 38 better looking 10 years ago at 28 or better looking now I I think it would be a VAR of metrics but yeah uh yes better looking okay uh but

Brian Atlasbetter looking at 48 okay you're 23 uh Andrea better looking in 10 years time at 33 um I think so okay 20 years time

Andrea (UC Merced)43 um I think I still look good honestly at 43 but better looking oh no I don't think better looking than 33 oh not better looking at 33 no no she means 43

Brian Atlaswon't be better looking yeah 43 won't be better looking yeah I won't look I will look better at 33 than 43 but 33 better looking than now uh you're oh wait she's

Brian Atlasgone okay uh you're 21 better looking in 10 years time at 31 yeah better looking in 20 years time at 41 yeah 30 years time 51 M uh 40 years

Brian Atlastime 61 into into the mic please 40 years time 61 what did you say no in 40 years at I ain't doing like [ __ ] math

Tiaequations here sorry what did you say 40 years at 61 oh no okay yeah no all right uh you are 33

Brian Atlasbetter looking in 10 years time at 43 I think I think so okay uh 20 year time 53 no okay and then you're 33 were

Brian Atlasyou better looking at 23 10 years ago my body was better but I think I've grown into my facial face face better okay um so in totality better at 33 or

Brian Atlas23 better at 33 by the way uh just I know the lean for the mic is a bit awkward there you want to scoot your mic back this way just so you're not like awkwardly yeah uh and then you're 21 better looking in 10 years time at

Brian Atlas31 no I think so um all right so I need to get up so I can pull up some things we need to react to um Andrew do you want

Andrew Wilsonto ask the panel question for a little bit while I do that sure sure so when when we ask about the rating 1 through 10 what do you guys think we

Kenzie (Montana)asking uh I thought it was more of an assessment in terms of uh your like how you would be as a partner oh okay well that I mean that makes sense like you're emotional mhm uh

Andrea (UC Merced)capacity you know yeah what do you think we're asking like about reading ourselves 1 through 10 yeah I thought literally just physical features I didn't think anything like same mentally or anything no I definitely thought like

Tiasorry I definitely thought like as a whole person like who you are so I yeah well it says looks and caps so I

Andrew Wilsonthink you were talking about just the Aesthetics yeah yeah okay got it why do you think it is that so many women even though the question is asked based on

Andrew Wilsonlooks how would you rate yourself they rate themselves on a metric other than looks why do you think that

Kenzie (Montana)is um I I think as a woman um we are attracted to different aspects than just looks and so that's kind of like an

Kenzie (Montana)internal um you know if if someone in looks is an eight or a nine but has a [ __ ] personality then I would reduce them down to a five but if someone maybe in looks is a five

Jen Stoneor a six but we're just so compatible meets all checks all the boxes then I would definitely increase it to an eight or a n you agree with that um I mean like for datability yeah

Jen Stoneon that scale of datability but looks is a different scale than than that okay uh so here's my follow-up question just uh just real quick going around the table

Andrew Wilsonmore good looking women or good-looking men there's more good-looking women women women women women women got it

Andrew Wilsonokay so then the question is out of that percentage pool of good-look men that there are what do you think the percentage pool is like if you had to give the percentage goodlooking men of

Andrew Wilsongood-looking men out of the whole pool available to your demographic for dating what would you put the percentage at just looks wise or just just looks wise

Kenzie (Montana)just looks like 30 30% um yeah I'd say 20

Andrew Wilson20 I don't know maybe like 40 you find 40% of men attractive no way um so like I mean four four out of 10 men you see she did show us that one

Andrew Wilsonguy yeah yeah into the mic it could be valid got to go into that [ __ ] could be valid four four out of 10 um maybe 30 then 30 so three out of 10 men that you see you're attracted to

Andrea (UC Merced)yeah like so if I go out I L like literally will see like five or less this is all ages of men um yeah even like cuz I do go out and it's literally like so three out of 10 men find TR that

Jen Stonechanges are we bringing up 8year olds in our ratings cuz I don't think are 8y old oh 80-year-old I'm sorry no I don't think the majority of the population are bringing up all ages okay so let's try

Andrew Wilsonit this way we'll frame it an easier way right so between the ages of 20 and let's say 50 how's that how many does

Andrew Wilsonyour answer change 2250 no um no I think it's 30% 30% you find three out of 10 hang on I just want to make sure at 50y olds me do you find

Andrea (UC Merced)three out of 10 50y olds attractive there are some good-looking 50y olds but like right three out of 10 I me I'm two out of 10 what's that I was two out of 10 that makes sense to me but three out

Andrea (UC Merced)of 10 50y old so the one difference is I mean but it's from 20 year 20-y old to 50y old yeah yeah yeah and there's lots of silver foxes you know

Andrea (UC Merced)yeah only 50 only 50 year olds I would say like not many yeah prob 20 20 and not many 40 year olds right um 40 year olds um probably not probably still like

Andrew Wilson20% so maybe like 30 to 20 something in there you find most most of the guys in that age bracket what would be the percentage around that age bracket like 40 to 50 10

Tiato 20 okay go over here um I feel like cuz of my my job and like where I go I feel like it's higher so I feel

Andrew Wilsonlike it's like 50 for me yeah yeah just men that you literally see everywhere CU you see men everywhere I feel like I'm around men who take care of themselves

Andrew Wilsonyou walk on the street don't you yeah but not very often yeah when you look around and you see men do you find five do you find half of them attractive they

Tiahave to be like atrociously ugly and out of shape for me to find find not find them attractive really if I'm being honest like they you they're like like

Andrew Wilsonin my opinion coming from a like a beauty industry so you think 50% yeah okay and then you did say that you think there's way more attractive women than men right yeah okay so then what's the

Tiapercentage of attractive women then I don't know 60% 70 no I feel like because women are more likely to take care of themselves in the long run there's more

Tiaattractive women so what's the percentage from from the 20 to 50 you

Andrew Wilsonsaid okay I'll do 6040 6040 okay so 60 women 40 men M

Andrew Wilsonyeah so 60% of women in that age bracket are uh good they're attractive and 40% of men are are okay so how many men do you find attractive within the age

Sarah (DNP)bracket of like 20 to 50 I would say there's a little bit more in LA because of I guess the culture and what La

Andrew Wilsonattracts but I would probably say 20% 20% okay I would say appearance wise 10% 10% yeah so 10 to 20% that's a pretty

Andrew Wilsoncommon answer right for what women find attractive so this doesn't surprise me at all so so here's here's what we found and at least the the studies that we've

Andrew Wilsonwe've looked at I think Brian can actually pull them up on what women find attractive or don't find attractive but you can see for mate selection that if women only find 10 or 20% of the entire

Andrew Wilsondating pool that's available to them attractive most men are they're not going to find most men attractive right yeah they're just not going to and if you think that there's way more women who are attractive than there are men

Andrew Wilsonthen that lower lessens the amount that are available to him even more right mhm yeah mhm okay so if this the case

Andrew Wilsonright then this percentage of men the small percentage of men who women do find attractive more women are going to want to get with those men right so

Andrew Wilsonthose men have options that other men don't have yeah sure yeah so then the this is called hypergamy the idea of hypergamy which is that uh women generally will go to this top percentile

Andrew Wilsonof men not because they're rich and this and that but just because that's the only percentage of pool they generally find to be attractive that's it right for me I mean I definitely give

Andrew Wilsonpeople chances even if I don't find them attractive just because people could be very attractive I personally I just don't find them attractive I wouldn't even dispute that but if a man was available who you did find attractive versus a man who wasn't you would s for

Andrew Wilsonthe man who you found attractive right I think for me it would depend on different criteria but if a man had the criteria that he wanted and was attractive and another man had the criteria you wanted and was not attractive wouldn't you

Andrew Wilsonstill select for the one you had attraction for I would say most likely but I think it would also depend on um like the uniqueness of the relationship yeah sure sure but you're not going to you want to have physical relationships

Kenzie (Montana)with men you don't find attractive generally people don't want to have physical relationships with people they don't I'm not disagreeing with you I'm just saying that I think people can become more attractive depending on certain criteria of their personality

Andrew Wilsonand people can become less don't disagree but you have to have a shot right and the best way to get a shots to be attractive to the other sex yeah I think for women like personality I've

Jen Stonedated more people you could consider like less than average and attractiveness because of personality I was just

Brian Atlasbro how you got back here go ahead pull it pull it up

Brian AtlasGod that's a sad wow so what we're going to do this is your like age advancement photos with the AI so um better looking

Brian Atlasyounger or older younger okay next okay there you go nice 48 I'm not

Brian Atlassure what age that is but some mil NE whoa why did that happen I next next whoa yeah I don't I don't think the that that

Brian Atlasmiddle one is not how old are you 23 no that middle one is not 33 oh well it's just like I it's not precise General aging this is what

Brian Atlashappens when you age next oh my goodness oh say that again oh my goodness okay

Brian Atlasnext oh wait oh no no no we'll show hold on go back it's humbling go back oh wait didn't we didn't we skip over one no no

Brian Atlaswe got them all wa no the girl the girl I can wait the girl that left yeah sure oh my gosh so pull her up no's her name the the girl that left I

Brian Atlasdon't know her name either did you out of it okay just can you go in the Discord oh god oh they look pretty much the

Kenzie (Montana)same I sad yeah the the two yeah they look the same that's uh so okay let's go

Tiaback it's not too bad all right there you go he's the cutest you're so cute oh Karen Karen now you like you have your own talk show

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