FERAL GIRL ATTACKS ANDREW?! Gets KICKED OUT! HATER Marxist Feminist STORMS OUT?! | Dating Talk #234

Date: 2025-03-17

Duration: 8h 12m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAndrew Wilson >

KKenzie (Montana)>

AAndrea (UC Merced)>

AAshley (Softball)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Jen Stone(guest)

SPEAKER_04Kenzie (Montana)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Tia(guest)

SPEAKER_10Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_11Ashley (Softball)(guest)

SPEAKER_12Priscilla(guest)

SPEAKER_13Andrea (UC Merced)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Sarah (DNP)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduced

ControversyKenzie opens by calling Andrew a rapist based on marital consent comments

ControversyPriscilla drops F-slur and cracker, gets in Andrew's face. KICKED OFF.

OtherKenzie walks out mid-show

Key MomentAshley: never had boyfriend, never been on date, 600+ hidden Hinge matches

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Jen Stone, Kenzie, Andrea, Priscilla, Tia, Sarah (DNP), Ashley (softball).

Kenzie Calls Andrew Rapist

Based on marital consent comments. Heated debate on consent reversibility.

Priscilla Kicked Off

Drops anti-gay F-slur and cracker on stream. Physical confrontation with Andrew. Kicked off.

Kenzie Walkout

Walked out mid-show after feeling shut down.

Ashley Never Had Boyfriend

Never had boyfriend, never been on date, 600+ hidden Hinge matches.

IQ Test on Stream

Jen attempts IQ test while slightly drunk. Gets sample question wrong.

Transcript

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Jen Stonemakes it an issue that with fake media it goes on both Sid I mean fake F news it goes on both sides and people don't really know what's actually going on so wait what you're saying is that young

Andrew Wilsonpeople tie in to social media in order to inform their worldview and we're on social media assisting in informing their worldview why would this be a

Jen Stoneproblem I mean all of it's delusional like I said both sides um uh Democrat and Republican it's become a huge issue but young people are more susceptible to Democrats are not

Andrew Wilsondelusional and Republicans are not delusional areion and a lot of people who hold delusions and there's creators who hold delusions and things like this

Andrew Wilsonright you have opposition ideologies which people do come to through reasoned discourse in their own ingroup and they're not always unreasonable ideologies it is true it is true that

Andrew WilsonI'm not saying that I'm just saying people are heavily influenced they do need to be combed from my view right and from her view like let's take Kinsey for instance she's that's what she's trying to do she's trying to combat ideologies which she considers to be

Andrew Wilsoncounterproductive to the society she wants to see same thing with me trying to combat ideologies which are counterproductive to the society that I want to see if the venue that we do this in is social media you're saying that

Andrew Wilsonthat's where young people go right why in the world is that not exactly where we would be in order to produce the ideology you want to see for the world

Jen Stonebecause it's always uh left or right if you when you view one when you view one side it you only view that side and you don't view the other side and then if only there was a show that had

Jen Stoneconservative Christians and Marxist feminist debating listen I'm not I'm not where could we find not finished I'm not finished I'm not finished see like I I completely lost what I was saying because you interrupted me so what was

Jen Stonethe last thing that we said you were saying that uh essentially um you don't present the other side and so I was I was just saying I don't think there should be two sides okay there shouldn't be two sides

Jen Stonefirst of all I don't believe in a two-party system and that's where my opinion comes from is I don't think there should be one one's right one's wrong so I'd like to bring it back to the actual criticism yeah which is that

Brian Atlasyou bring on young women with no education so I've already provided statistics that we keep pretty thoroughly the average age of Our Guest say only you just criticized him for interrupting you I've asked you I've

Brian Atlasasked you to let me finish it's okay let me finish all right I tend to be fairly quick soor um you said that we bring on women young women with no education whether they're older young we do bring

Brian Atlasa women on with education uh there are women here who are educated we've had on phds we have on a PhD uh or I guess doctorate I don't know if it's still called a PhD in nursing or is it just I

Brian Atlasdon't know whatever in any case we bring on we've brought on women who have bachelor's degrees master's degrees phds we've also bring on women who have dropped out of college here's the thing

Brian Atlasthough just like me because I don't have some Advanced degree in uh sociology or politics or philosophy or any of this stuff I'm a College Dropout so I don't think it would actually can you actually

Brian AtlasState what what would be wrong with me as a College Dropout talking to somebody else who's a College Dropout what would actually be wrong with that oh I'm not talking about that when I say uneducated

Jen StoneI mean people with no life experience everybody has a life experience um if you're talking to only fan girlss who show their boobs online have never had a job and don't know anything about

SPEAKER_08politics then I would call them uneducated here's that only fans girls are 21 18 to I'm not saying it's a just

Jen Stonean a our old the Maj the majority of the girls on here that are on this side of the table are not conservative side of

Brian Atlasthe table not a single girl does anybody no girl here does only even the the the the the Great the no that that's great doesn't have only fans I just mean the majority when you have these it's not

Jen Stonethe majority it's 15% here tell tell me oh 15% gu guess how many of my guests do only fans well you said 15% that's it that's more than the average population

Andrew Wilsonuh well hang on of only fans we're looking we're looking at the potential that in the next 10 years of one in 10 Zoomer women do only fans 15 15% in that

Jen Stonedemographic it is a slight over representation but not much what's the it's still I mean it still applies to what I'm saying is it one in 10 now I don't think it

Andrew Wilsonis one I don't know anyone who does only fans hang on it's slated to be uh but the point is is that even if it's a slight over representation one it's not

Andrew WilsonZoomers it's across the board I'm just pointing out in Zoomers there's a potential uh well no it's not 1 and 10 I'm sorry maybe it's 1 and3 I don't

Andrew Wilsonremember but the point is it's still it's very very high okay whatever the percent percentile would be for Zoomers with only fans but the percentage of only fans models is increasing models

Andrew Wilsonthe only fans girls are increasing prostitution is increasing sex work is increasing it's a very easy way for a lot of women to try to make a buck I disagree with that well great that's

Andrew Wilsongreat you disagree with it but that means it's a representation of people have an ideology which needs to be combed if you agree with it okay I agree with that but when you're bringing on

Jen Stonemore only fans people and the normal population I don't only people who do only fans uh the normal world most of us don't really come I don't think that

Andrew Wilsonbrings on the representation population of doctors of nurses of if you take the show stats you probably they're too busy to do it no what I'm saying is that regardless of the population at large

Andrew Wilsonversus the percentage that comes on the podcast itself I don't think he probably has a representation population for any of them why would he that makes no sense because yeah they they have real issues to deal with I mean I mean we have a

Jen Stonewoman who has a doctorate in nursing here but in any case that's awesome yeah but um I told you my view on education I'm not saying literally doctorates I say people that like came from yeah they

Jen Stonecame from bad childhood they went into bad situations and you bring them on to generalize women or generalize men in situations so let me just address something you said previously it's

Andrew Wilsonactually specific right no you generalize all the time like you said this whole table didn't respond to it's a generalization I actually think that's totally fair to say that saying we're majority when it's not you make

Jen Stonegeneralized statements right but when we're talking to each individual here we're honing down on specifics that you gave us no yeah I'm yeah that's fine I I mean you my issue is

Jen Stonegeneralizing that people who go on here with um I guess like more [ __ ] jobs and stuff for like the general population and if you see the comments and stuff general population prevented from being a [ __ ] because they don't

Brian Atlashave a [ __ ] job wa wait hold on wait wait really quick hold on hold on one sec hold hold on there's did you see this funny meme on Twitter the other day it was like what people think [ __ ] dress like and what they actually dress like and it's like some Street walkers

Brian Atlason the left and what they actually dress like is they're wearing scrubs we have a nurse here um our nurse I mean I don't know if you want to throw I if you want toow your fellow nurses

Brian Atlasunder the bus but isn't it the case that a lot of the Nur not you not you but like the other nurses they get down right am I okay so that's a yes but okay

Sarah (DNP)go ahead go ahead okay I I personally don't know any but I will say that you don't know any I I don't the reputation yeah yeah but I would say that there is

Sarah (DNP)a certain reputation that people who work in a hospital have I mean what gr's Anatomy is probably not a good example but you know you see little hookups and things like that and there have been I

Andrew Wilsonmean I have I have seen things but these are not my immediate circle well and it makes sense right so you have a demographic of people who are mostly female working that job and you have

Andrew Wilsontons and tons of males who come through for a variety of reasons it makes total sense that there would be a lot of promiscuity in that industry same thing with flight attendants it's the same type of thing right very male flight

Andrew Wilsonattendants mostly female they go all over the place they interact with a lot of males it makes sense travel nurses is the intersection of that's just that's a

Brian Atlasrough one okay um I was a travel nurse so oh no oh no but I I not no I we need to get a giant red flag and like drape it on people something like that uh so I

Brian Atlasguess going back to it though uh if you have such an objection to the I guess the uh pool of guests that I bring on the show uh thank you for having me um I I just say I didn't finish my sentence

Jen StoneI'm sorry I'm sorry I didn't mean to interrupt I'm I'm buzzed um I got buzzed really early due to the three champagne it wasn't that much champagne but okay um I don't drink a lot light did you see

Andrew Wilsonwhat JJ matches you got to pull that up dude so funny it's the funniest comment I've seen I'll find it hold on it's a YouTube side I got it I got

Andrew Wilsonit that really attractive after a couple of beers of a little pump oh my God all right so

Brian Atlasum all right sorry um sorry I got uh okay so I oh you have an objection to the guest that I bring on you don't like the composition of the guests whatever

Brian Atlasuh how about this if it's such an issue to you um and I'll pay you a referral fee for each person you send me cool send me women who don't do sex work don't do only fans that you think are appropriate to come on the show and I'll

Jen Stonehappily book them well you pay for their travel expenses cuz mine my expenses were pretty expensive so yeah I mean they're yeah I'm lot of sure no one

Jen Stonecares about exposure in my friend group I that's the normal population like in my group taking selfies and putting it on Instagram wait so how else can we roll out the red carpet for people that

Jen Stoneyou would prefer to see on the show on our dime no cuz they don't care they have real lives like I mean they're they don't want to pay how do I get them on the show if they don't care he further

Andrew Wilsonflight so again so that you're so here was your brilliant plan hang want make get is Right brilliant plan yeah we I would like to get all of my friends on your show on your dime that you pay for all of them and then you then you go

Andrew Wilsonahead and host them no he said he'd give you a referral fee I don't want your money I don't care about your money I get it but but do you realize how absurd it is to say well uh the problem is is that you don't have the correct I'll

Andrew Wilsongive them my feed stop stop let them finish you don't have the correct representation of people that I feel like should be on your show and all you would really have to do to get them is pay them a bunch of money not of money

Jen Stoneno not money where they make profit but I live in Texas it's not cheap to like just my motel was like 3 people from California I don't have friends in California I'm from Texas right so be a

Brian Atlastalent recruiter I'll pay you a referral fee try to recruit women from Los Angeles or the surrounding area who represent the world VI you want to see on the show I what I know why would I do that look I'm I'm literally extending an offer let them do that I don't live in

Brian AtlasCalifornia I have no friends here okay so I've extended an offer to you there's an open invitation girls girls can DM girls can DM the sh stop stop stop stop sorry sorry sorry girls can DM the show

Brian Atlasif they want to be on the show if they meet your criteria we can have them on the show we're super open-minded people can disagree that's kind of the show it's good if they disagree we like to have them on anyways I'm going to move

Brian Atlason to your other criticisms so you said that you're a disabled woman yet you do construction and Woodworking and grow your own food and you know why because the government is so effed that you're preparing to Homestead and check out of

Brian Atlascapitalism yeah um I'm not really going to bite on that but uh you said uh you're a Libertarian you're last say fair capitalist right that's am I I yeah I mean it's okay I'm not going to bite

Jen Stoneon it not going to B I'm a range of things but I'm scared for just as General Libertarians are lass a fair capitalist I am a very introverted

Jen Stoneperson I don't like many people I would rather have a community [ __ ] does that have to do with being I'm going to tell you my plan with homestead if you would listen I don't really want another the plan I'm it's expensive no it's

Brian Atlasexpensive so I'm going to have a community of people can you just scoot your mic scoot your mic towards you no scoot scoot it towards you cuz you pushed scoot it to the edge of the table edge of the table okay okay go ahead um

Jen Stonemy worldview is I want to check out of normal society in general um and buy a bunch of land bring people I age with my friends and we are going to I mean not

Andrew Wilsoncheck out of capitalism completely that would I mean not that sounds like another type of ism what is that though that would be like so like let's pretend hang on let's pretend that I had that I

SPEAKER_09had a bunch we just pretend I had a bunch of friends and we went out to the middle of nowhere and we all shared resources and there was no capitalism it's not no and we were just like anybody who had a need of something the

Jen Stoneother people would provide for the need what type of ism would we be thinking about we still have jobs just not all of us have jobs and we just share yeah you

Jen Stonejust share according to their need right no no I I don't agree with any of that this is the opposite of libertarianism really is I I don't

Jen Stonelibertarian is I don't care about social stuff I I care about a small government Communists don't care about the Communist don't care about social [ __ ] either I care about a small government but what maybe it's the wrong view what

Andrew Wilsonis my view if I care about small government well it's not listen but I don't care about stupid crap that so so here's the thing what is my view I'm I'm going to explain it I'm going to explain it communism and

Andrew Wilsonlibertarianism are opposite sides of the same coin the tailes in of the heads end here's how it works Communists affirm a stateless society through the fact that there needs to be no communal property

Andrew Wilsonwhatsoever yeah I don't none no communal property Libertarians affirm that they want a stateless society where the only affirmation is property so so

Andrew WilsonLibertarians they affirm their view in property and and that's how they want their stateless society right the only rights you have is property rights and the Communist is the opposite end of that they're saying we want a stateless

Andrew Wilsonsociety where there are no Pro nobody has property it's classless completely classless and that so it's it's a Tales end heads coin this is what Anne Rand proposes as well uh if you read Atlas

Andrew WilsonShrugged or if you read the The Fountain Head if you read any of these this is what you'll find with uh libertarian thought leaders even if you go to what's that guy's name um I can't linger too

Andrew Wilsonlong yeah yeah just real quick I can't I can't think of his name for the life of me even though I've CED him multiple times but he talks a lot about monarchies you probably know who he is I can't he's a Libertarian thought leader

Jen Stonebut anyway the point is is like you're not talking about libertarianism here I'm not yeah I'm not I don't know the right what's yeah what's the correct term for that I don't know all I know is that I got to move it on I got to move it sure you can respond you can respond

Jen Stonebut I'm move it on what I'm saying is that it's a two there's a lot of stress in relationships due to where our economy is and power factors if we all wait did you just scoot your mic please no I didn't I didn't move it didn't move

Jen Stoneit really uh I didn't move it no I didn't I moved to the edge of the table and then you pushed it back no I no I didn't move it since you said not to move it we'll pull it back towards you

Jen Stonerewind okay sorry so my view on this is because can you didn't let me finish I look I do want to have the back and forth I'm just going to no just let

Jen Stoneme say my whole view because I have a reason to be here let me finish um there's power dynamics that don't work

Jen Stoneright so my plan is is because our economy where it is now is we need both people working to sustain a household for most people so if we work together

Jen Stoneand buy acres of land we don't need to do that it sounds like we still have jobs what do you what does that mean like tell me why you're

Andrew Wilsonlaughing well I mean you want so you want to buy these acres of land so that people have like housing and stuff like my close friends like three people like three families together do you want to

Jen Stonetell her what is smok can you tell me what that means no like I don't know like he's going way to smoke I don't know what

Jen Stonethat means so you're a Comm not libertarian how am I a commun we have jobs still we just share money as family yeah I don't think you're I don't think you're commun I don't think what you're

Jen Stonedescribing as a political ideology is no it's not a political ideolog ideology to because we're in such a weird state in society and the economy that we share resources of

Jen Stonepeople that we love and care about like our family and brothers and sisters like how is that communism we still have jobs and well you still have jobs in

Brian Atlascommunism we just share our assets with our family is that communism I know he wants to move on so okay let's move on all right you said uh basically you don't want to be anywhere near PE near people who are willing to keep doing

Brian Atlasthings that divide us as a nation instead of solving the real issues kind of like feminism um it's not it's just in general um can you just tilt your mic down a little bit like perfect okay um

Brian Atlasyou said that you wanted some time to think about coming on the show you have bigger things going on in your life than this stupid podcast you don't know if it's worth it for you to go out of your way and spend your money to come be on the show and tell your views to brainwash people so is it who's

Jen Stonebrainwashed like the other girls me Andrew who's the viewers who's brainwash I just think the debate style can be kind of brainwashed ing

Jen Stonesometimes um and I just think um if 70% of women are divorcing men why is a whole show based on hold on that's a different thing stick to the

Jen Stonebrainwashing no that is brainwashing what's brainwashing you're getting women who are prone to um uh with no education in the real world uh

Jen Stoneprone what do you mean by no education in the real world what does that mean people who are damaged mentally and emotionally coming on the show who are strippers and stuff are and men who are

Brian Atlasalso mentally emotionally okay so we can just talk about like the if you want to do like an appeal to the the this exception what exception okay so we already established that 85% of our

Brian Atlasguests are not involved in sex work it's not just the guests it's the viewers they're not involved in sex work either no they're prone if they have on one thing at a time said bringing on on the show who have no education and they're

Brian Atlasbeing brainwashed and who they they have like trauma in their past first off I don't know a lot of people who haven't gone through some degree of like a traumatic experience in their past but like what evidence do you actually have

Brian Atlasthat it's the case that the majority of our guests have like severe trauma I didn't say that so am I not allowed to speak to people who have gone through difficult things in their past that's great that you do um but what but what

Brian Atlasevidence do you have that that's that I the people hold on hold on what evidence do you have cuz I'm going to just reject your assertion immediately that the people who come on are

Jen Stonedisproportionately like have like a ton of trauma Dy issues and y'all yourself in the show listen listen you and

Jen Stoneyourself and and not you uh every time there's a woman that is in sex work or strippers they're like yeah there was no dad like you can y are the ones that

Brian Atlasmake that assumptions yourselves they didn't come in normal households so cool let's go ahead I'm going to just grant that yes well I don't even yes sex workers do come on the show why don't we

Brian Atlasput that aside because I've already established that it's 15% of the guests that we've ever had on are involved in sex work there's no sex work workers on this panel yeah explain to me the component of brainwashing okay I I'm

Jen Stonesaying that um the more you view a video the the more you're going to get that type of content right so um if someone's damaged and they just got a guy let's

Jen Stonejust say a guy got cheated on and got like someone stole from them they're going to view more of those videos and if you have women that are no no no hey those aren't can you those aren't for

Brian Atlasyou guys okay can you can you just get like normal water the alkaline water is too [Music] expensive can just there's there's

Jen Stonebottle wat waterers there's the the water over there okay yeah I thought that was bot water there's the Kirklands all right go ahead oh yeah I don't know what I was saying yeah I don't I have ad can you speak

Jen Stoneinto the M I have ADHD I don't remember what we were talking about talking about you're alleging that I am talking to uh people who are brainwashed oh I'm not saying just you I think you're

Jen Stonecontributing to a large factor of social media brainwashing it's not just your show in general I think in um I think okay what am I doing that's brainwashing

Jen Stonegeneralizing women what have I done that's generalizing women you say women all the time women do this women do that maybe it's true what there's no statistics on that maybe it's true what

Brian Atlashave I generalized um hold on yeah let her let me think while she speaks no it's your

Jen Stoneposition justify your position what are you generalizing um just that women um care about money or status and stuff and

Jen Stonenot about What specifically have I said pertaining to that oh um I've never think I've called a woman a gold digger on the show never called did I ever I didn't say that you're saying did I say

Jen Stoneyou're saying that men are protectors and providers no we and you don't say anything about connection and qualities that we want I don't care about a man's money and if you look at the comments yeah you're totally

Brian Atlasstrawmanning my position what's my position I know strawman is you're misre okay how about this you're representing my position I I didn't say your position I just mean said you said I generalize about women and that they all they care

Jen Stoneabout is money never have women do this women do that women like this but it's really not women generally like tall men is that like misog that's true no that's true oh that's true but it's a

Jen Stonegeneralization so is it wrong no that one's not wrong okay so there's a lot of things you do like do I have wrong you make things very transactional that we expect

Jen Stonefor you to pay for everything um like you bring on girls that do expect that because they're very transactional people the majority of women don't feel that way we is that your position no I

Brian Atlaswe understand as a normal person Society I understand that ah so normal women if they want a guy to pay for a first date that's like not normal behavior for not in today's society wow you're completely

Brian Atlaswrong completely wrong I I don't think it's it's a lot it's it's the majority of conservative women's position conservative one third of the population relationship hold on hold on it's the

Brian Atlasmajority of conservative women's positions that they want men to pay for first AIDS this is just indisputable and then even liberal women who have perhaps a greater tendency towards being okay

Brian Atlaswith a 50/50 relationship even liberal Progressive women want men they want chivalry they want tradition on the men's part and they want men to pay for first AIDS I don't think it's as much as conservative women but to just say all

Jen Stoneliberal women are all aggressive women don't want to go 50/50 is just completely dubious yeah no I'm not saying all of anything I'm saying you generalize people like it's a majority

Brian Atlasum any I think the I I don't know if it's a majority stics it's not majority I think if I don't know if there's polls on this but I would I think hold on hold on I do think it's a fair to say that I

Brian Atlaslook I'd have to see the poll but I think it's fair idea going into a date like a lot of women do have an expectation that men that's the majority for sure like I haven't seen the peer reviewed study that like oh do women

Brian Atlaswant men to pay for first AIDS I look at the sky it's plue there are well like there are they do definitely let's bring those up they definitely I'm just saying

Jen Stoneum yeah it's just don't generalize all the population if it's not it's 80% it's not not all I've never made say the word women so many times on the show like let

Brian Atlasme how about this how about this you said women do this when and do that that's what I have a problem with hold on well hold on I typically don't actually make that claim but hold on do you ever say the word they wait wait

Andrew Wilsonwait hold on hold on so like they like they did X yeah sometimes yeah so then all you're doing is you're making a reference to a specific group in the context you're talking about I'll

Andrew Wilsonexplain so if you if you bring up women right if you say well what I've noticed is that and so let's say Brian qualifies what most women will do is they want X let's just say they want

Jen StoneX for the rest of the conversation he can say the word women because we now have the reference to what he's talking about yeah I mean that's still the same thing if you put they then if you say women want can I ask your question the

Andrew Wilsonsame thing yeah but if you qualify it first so we could do this with anything let's say if I say firefighters firefighters put out fires for the rest

Andrew Wilsonof this entire conversation if I say they I'm referencing what firefighters right so if he qualifies I'll explain so if he qualifies conversation at first and says well most

Andrew Wilsonwomen will do X the whole rest of the time he's referencing women in the source of that conversation he's referencing that most women X yeah but I what I disagree is when you

Jen Stonesay most women I don't agree with that like that it's most women in my world the things that you say I don't think I've said most women want men to pay for first AIDS in a previous

Jen Stonepodcast I'm not saying that in general I never said that that I said it I never said no I never said that you said that did I isn't that what we're arguing about I'm say no I'm saying in general

Jen Stoneyou say women do this women want this when I don't believe that's the case what's not the case I don't remember the exact like I have AG if you bring up the

Jen Stonetopics I can tell you uh women wanting men to pay for First Dates yeah I I agree that a lot of them do I would say it's 50/50

Jen Stonebut if I say like women if I say women likes men who are taller than them that's true do you think I'm referencing every woman on plan no I agree the majority what is this critique I think

Jen Stonewhat is this critique listen I think in a lot of the times when you say you're generalizing things that aren't true I'd say that men yeah that General

Jen Stonegeneralization about men I mean women liking tall men that's true but a lot of generalization do you take issue with I I don't remember if you bring it up I will but okay um here so I have ADHD I

Brian Atlasmean well I was asking you you were alleging that uh I brainwash people I think I didn't say you in general or brainwashing your mic down please let's just try to leave it where it is I

Jen Stonedidn't move it um no I yeah most of my issues on the show is you yeah my entire job is to convince people of my worldview yeah and it's and I really want to do that for the world no I think it is good for the world and your point

Andrew Wilsonof view and women shouldn't have rights but in my point of view yeah okay well my point of view is that women shouldn't have rights or that most people shouldn't have the right to vote I think

Jen Stonefirst of all no no I want you to tell me my what my actual view is I think your view is because uh men are drafted that women shouldn't have the right to vote I think women should be drafted what's the

Jen Stonejust what's the justification of what of why it is that if men are drafted women shouldn't be able to vote what's the justification because uh to vote they have to sign

Andrew Wilsonsign off to be in the draft right that's not the justification you're incorrect about my position my position is that people shouldn't be able to vote to send people off to Wars they themselves will

Andrew Wilsonnever be qualified to fight you say qualified can I bring up something like if you can't be drafted I think you vote to send people off to war then you are

Jen Stoneparticipating in being able to send people off to war to fight a war that you yourself could never be eligible to fight let me say is that true or false that's true but let me totally F I'm not saying true in

Jen Stoneeverything you're saying I'm saying um first of all combat has changed so much oh there's technology there's drones there's not oneon-one

Jen Stonecompact uh combat like it used to be yes there is not as much yeah all you got to do is look at Ukraine and Russia yes there is you're wrong you got to be you got to be switching you got to be

Jen Stoneswitching um yeah that's that that's the US US has higher technology than that first of all we gave them our bad technology but no we them good technology okay yeah we gave them drone technology they have both sides have

Andrew Wilsondrone technology do you know how the Russians defeated Ukrainian drone technology they they brought back the draon what they did was they got on a motorcycle that goes really really fast with shotguns and take down drones that

Andrew Wilsonway Frontline combat Frontline combat is still men with guns killing each other it hasn't changed since World War II yeah but um when you say front line women who are controlling all other

Jen Stoneaspects there's not like a um back in the day where someone starts here and someone starts there and then we charged it's just like that it's like a big giant uh the map is huge women are

Jen Stonegetting uh it's always been that way and I think a big giant 600 like women died it was like

Andrew Wilsonone3 listen out it was onethird people were women where I don't remember I statistic nowhere there's nowhere ever

Andrew Wilsonthat one of the combat troops were women who died that's insane and 1200 were men where I I don't remember are you talking about a battle or are you talking about the actual casualties you okay casual no

Jen Stonecasualties in an entire War I think it was Afghanistan like 600 women died in in what war are you talking about I think

Andrew Wilsonit was yeah with Afghanistan uh Iraq Afghanistan Iraq what the whole oil and Ben Laden do you think that we had 600

Jen Stonewomen who were front line troops who front line no I'm not saying front line I mean they were in the map of the front line I know where we're even arguing this it's like these are volunteer

Jen Stonefemale soldiers females can't be drafted okay so what they're volunteers can be drafted that's his position they should be drafted women should be drafted they can control the drones and

Jen Stoneeverything else that doesn't mean we shouldn't have rights but they're not currently well we should change that that's what I'm here for is to change for the better not to just make everyone

Andrew Wilsonpoiz on you're right hang on I was hang on yeah during the Afghanistan war 13 US service members died were females no I don't I'm not the right on the war

Jen Stonewhatever I looked up with 600 I'm not a history buff 13 no I'm not a history buff there probably the wrong 13 different than it's the wrong War dude

Jen StoneI'm not a history puff like you I don't all I know is a something where 600 women out of yeah it was it's the wrong I have to look it up yeah but I mean so think of it from my are dying how many

Jen Stonemen died compared to women in that look up that uh I don't think that's that would be all that would be all other deaths how many deaths though total thousands of of of you want to get into

Andrew WilsonCas when you to get into casualties I think it's over 100,000 casualties meaning I got a leg blown off got an arm blown off so what happens in war is this yes what happens in war is this so if you go from World War I to World War II

Andrew Wilsonand you're taking a look at deaths versus casualties there was a lot of deaths to casualty ratio you go to World War II medical technology advanced there's still tons of casualties but not quite as many deaths to casualty ratio

Andrew Wilsonyou go forward to Vietnam same thing go forward to Iraq Afghanistan you still have tens of thousands of casualties right I think there's over 100,000 casualties can I can look it up but the

Andrew Wilsonthing is is uh ultimately medical technology has come so far that if you get your arm and leg blown off and shrapnel all over you and you get burned you still live but you're still a casualty of War maybe the that was the

Jen Stonestatistic was casualties how how am I brainwashing people I didn't say you were brainwashing I think the whole red pelt like thing is it's it's making hate

Andrew Wilsonwomen hate you and Men hate us what if it's made the right kind of women hate me like I want feminists to hate me because um they should why because U I

Andrew Wilsonrepresent an ideology which literally wants to destroy feminism should you try to help them change whatever Viewpoint or or you mean by like I don't know debating with them repulse them debating

Andrew Wilsonwith them how how how should I how could two people enter into an oppositional discourse with each other in a way that would convince other people of their ideology what would be a thing you can

Andrew Wilsonthink of off the top of your head that could do that sorry I I blinked out you said opposition is yeah yeah so I'll try I'll try this again what what could two people do through the through the course of if you wanted to have discourse with

Andrew Wilsonhim with opposition views in order to convince a ton of other people of your position what is the single word that comes to your mind that two people could do to do that it's debate but your views

Jen Stoneare taking away women's rights and you no you think that Comm okay I do want to have the back and forths here ah your view is

Jen Stonethat things were better in the 50s when women look I I'll give you time women could vote in the50s the 19th amendment pass 1920 I'm talking about you you said

Brian Atlason the show that women were happier in the 50s I I don't believe that you guys I will give you guys time later on in the show to discuss this I need to get through the notes though okay so you I you still haven't really explained to me

Brian Atlasthe whole brainwashing component but we'll save that for the end you said you think that the show is just as harmful as only fans on society yeah

Jen Stonesocial media is uh is um like I said many times that we're making women more repulsive men and men more repulsive women okay so I'm going to just repeat

Brian Atlaswhat you said you said that you think the show is just as harmful as only fans on society so I have a couple couple clarifying questions same sure um can

Jen Stoneyou articulate precise nicely how my show is harmful to start because if you look at the comments and the feeds there's a lot of hate there's a lot of hate and um I think that all of the

Brian Atlascomments and all the people that come through it yeah it's lot of very hateful I'll get to the comment section so and and I'll address the comparison of it to

Brian Atlasthe harm women are doing the same thing yeah hold on so I do think you seem to greatly overestimate the reach and influence that I have that the show has

Brian Atlasso yeah whatever podcast more harmful than only fans in totality in its entirety I didn't say it was more harmful I said it just as harmful oh

Jen Stonejust okay excuse me just as harmful um I I'm not saying a you populations like it has to be exact equal or one has a higher population um cuz I don't know

Brian Atlasthe statistics I just mean that only fans is also being harmful towards men and women sure okay so um are you like in favor of adult

Brian Atlascontent creation consumption no sex work okay no um so I'd like to quantify this so my show which gets I mean now we're actually have about 10,000 live viewers

Brian Atlasbut typically we're like 500,000 or sorry 5,000 to 7,000 live viewers um 10,000 Awesome by the way yeah thank you guys for uh tuning

Brian Atlasin five but the average is between 5,000 to 7,000 live viewers um more harmful or sorry excuse me I not it's not more harmful just as harmful to society as

Brian Atlasonly fans which is a multi-billion doll international company which has introduced millions of women to sex work who wouldn't have otherwise done it not to mention the harm that this is doing not just to women but also to men for a

Brian Atlasvariety of reasons but one of these reasons that I tend to harp on quite a bit is the whole like you know the Casual defrauding that's occurring on only fans when it comes to uh and these sort of girlfriend exper fake

Jen Stoneexperiences there's a lot of fraud going on um whatever podcast Ju Just as harmful as not just I think the whole rep like the whole um it's not it's just

Jen Stonethe whole red pill not saying you're exactly red pill I just mean the whole movement in general is I'm not interested in it's just say like one only fan girl vers whatever podcast you

Brian Atlascan't just say the whole of one thing the whole of the other thing I'll repeat what you wrote cuz that's what I'm contending with you said I think your show is just as harmful as only fans on

Brian Atlassociety so I'm not going to do a defense of other podcasts I'm my own person I don't know what other people are doing I have my platform that's what I meant I have my platform I have my PO oh that's

Brian Atlaswhat you meant here are your words once again I'll repeat them back to you I think your show is just as harmful as only fans on society in general with all the other so how am I supposed to

Brian Atlasinterpret when somebody says so so for example if I said you commit a crime and then I say oh no it's actually like just it's just like white people I was

Brian Atlastalking about white people what oh my God okay I'm not responsible for anybody besid you are responsible for you yeah that's right your show you said your

Brian Atlasshow I think your show is just as harmful as only fans which is a multibillion international yeah just as harmful okay not just you and your 200,000 views or whatever I just mean

Jen Stoneevery other podcast I'm not affiliated with other what like you are putting that out there and they're watching your videos I'm put yes I'm putting my worldview out there and yeah that's that's the point that

Jen Stoneyeah it's bad for society is it or is it not bad for society that's good for well you could and your Viewpoint not not his view I'll go ahead and Grant not your Viewpoint not yeah

Brian AtlasI'm going to go ahead and Grant that my podcast is bad for society how the [ __ ] do you come to the conclusion that it's just as harmful okay sayans I'll say I

Jen Stonewas wrong in that but it's very harmful it's I'd say it's pretty not just you but the whole narrative I don't care about the other people stick to the stick to just show I will succeed in that no but I'd say this whole my point

Jen Stoneis not just you in general I'd say these types of podcasts is what I meant by that no I'm going to take your words at face value I think show I said I'm wrong if you're taking by face value but

Jen Stonethat's what I I'm not prepared to do a defense of other podcasts I'll defend my show I told you I was wrong if you're taking it by face value but what I meant by that it's different than what I said okay sure and so your position is

Brian Atlasbecause looking at the comments on my videos and other similar ones it's really frightening there's a lot of hate that's being spread yeah in the comments or my my own rhetoric and positions or

Jen Stoneis it just the comments no you're not that bad I just mean okay but but okay but okay but the comments are really no no it's I think that yeah people who

Jen Stonehave been hurt like if you tell them if you spread stuff that makes them want to hate women more they're more prone to you you you know what say well well I'm not going to grant that but so just

Brian Atlascurious so okay the comments are really bad you know what I agree I do want to ask though so is this like your first day on the internet like this isn't something that's exclusive to

Brian Atlasthe hold on no just let me finish this is not something that's exclusive to the whatever podcast you can go watch a Minecraft video and on the Minecraft video there's going to be like

Brian Atlasridiculous comments on a Minecraft video this is just you know YouTube comment section kind of just notorious for being bad but honestly have you seen the Tik Tok comment section which I I go on Tik

Brian AtlasTok that's fine I think TP Tik Tok which is absolutely dominated by women I look at the uh comment sections on a lot of uh Fe like female Centric uh Tik toks

Brian Atlasthat are often dating related and off the the mandry and man-hating and sexist comments I see on there is uh pretty objectionable but I guess what I'm trying to say is this is not something

Brian Atlasthat's purely exclusive just the whatever you're adding to it just well I mean I think no matter what you do like there are going to be nasty comments and if you're in a field like dating if

Brian Atlasyou're talking about dating if you're talking about relationships especially if you talk about politics that's it comes with the territory people are going to say nasty things things in the comment what I can tell you is I'm

Brian Atlasresponsible for what I say that's my view as a man I'm only responsible for the words that I say I AG some guy in the comment section who says some crazy

Jen Stone[ __ ] I agree I'm you are responsible for that but you also own like this is your show and you put these comments on but yeah um oh like the super chats oh yeah

Jen Stonesometimes they're nasty they're nasty than me they call me fat makeit they say all kind of [ __ ] about me my big thing is that women should stop women hating and advertising that

Jen Stoneand men should stop okay yeah uh women should stop man hating and women should stop should we just take YouTube down because like the comment because because YouTube is no I get that so I think

Brian Atlassocial media is bad for society should just because bad thing happen in society should maybe we should just end societ like should should I not have the podcast is that your gratification no I mean if if you agree it's bad for

Brian Atlassociety then that was my point is that is bad for society and I yeah so it's good for society though good for society you and your Viewpoint yeah wait so let me ask you a question let me ask you a question so let's say uh you said you're

Jen Stonelike libertarian I mean I don't know the words I I I think she's walked that back or okay well you you um I don't care about social crap I I care about a small

Brian Atlasgovernment I I don't believe in I'm just that's okay but so what is that a small government and okay so whatever your worldview is let's say there's like a representative of your worldview who has

Brian Atlasa YouTube channel right yeah and maybe it's a political figure and maybe he's forwarding all your political values your worldview Etc in the comment section on his YouTube channel there's like nasty comments and they're talk

Brian Atlasthey're like saying nasty things about like the political opposition like maybe let's say it's a republican let's say you're a Republican and you like a republican candidate and in the comment section of his YouTube videos they're saying oh these Liberals are stupid and

Brian Atlasidiots and their big big mean faces whatever the mean things whatever the mean things they're saying in the comment section even though he's forwarding your world view should he stop doing it because like the mean comments on YouTube no but when you

Jen Stoneallow people on your show that don't like care about human rights and men are you know that makes difference I've never actually seen Brian put anybody on the show that doesn't care about human

Andrew Wilsonrights women's rights yeah I'm sorry I'm sorry you said human rights human rights is women's rights if I say that I think that men and women probably shouldn't both vote yeah I mean can you explain to me

Jen Stonehow it is that I'm singling out women because you don't want them to vote I think that they should also have to um but I'm how am I singling them out if I'm saying both shouldn't both

Andrew Wilsonshouldn't vote men and women shouldn't vote if I say that I want to go back to our constitutional founding where no one votes what constitutional founding or I'll let you guys have it but I I hold on sorry I that was confusing because

Brian Atlasthese chats are about to fall off I don't want to repeat of what happened yesterday where where we weren't able to pull them off uh Lucas chair 2 also out of sure curiosity did you have these Looney Tunes views while you were married and if so did your ex have a man

Brian Atlasbun and did he head up the local white dudes for Cala get out the the vote this is for you um did I have these Lon views when we were married um no My Views were

Kenzie (Montana)more uh more liberal rather than uh leftist what was what was the other part just I think if you had the views while you're married and did your ex have a man bun no and did he was he like white

Brian Atlasdudes for Cala uh no he's he's not a liberal so okay it's a very very common post- divorce for women to go the feminist Marxist rout by the way we have Lucas here chair one you have nothing of

Brian Atlassubstance to say you portray yourself as a squishy fence sitter which in and of itself is abhorent you're his historically illiterate and fail to understand that continued yeah there's

Brian Atlasthree I mean I'm not just wait I'll read it I'll read just one sec one sec yeah I'm not a history societies were built on a Clash of ideas as far back as deanes for that matter this Clash of ideas was the very

Brian Atlasunderpinning of the for the Socratic method and the paretic school sorry I I haven't heard that one before uh continued he has one more coming in from Lucas thank you man uh furthermore he furthermore our entire legal system

Brian Atlasespecially at the appet level is grounded on adversarial argumentation and that's just some examples so quit your whining develop your ground principles I'm not whining first of all I think there should be more than a two-party system and that's okay yeah

Brian Atlasthat's that sure all right based astronaut says two questions for all the women on the panel one do you believe in astrology two can you define what a civil war is so first off uh going around the table do you believe in

Ashley (Softball)astrology no no yeah yeah guys into the mic please no is it uh astrology is that like your

Jen Stonescience horc oh no okay all right and then uh can you define what a civil war is a war in a nation that's like half

Jen Stoneand half they're fighting for some sort of issue okay uh yeah two uh groups in the same

Andrea (UC Merced)country fighting War yeah correct okay um textbook definition no but um I guess we're like yeah we're too too parties

Brian Atlasare fighting I guess I don't think the rest of girls need that to answer um all right uh unless you guys want to weigh in on I just want to say thank gosh he said it first you know what I'm saying I think that's fine for a proprietary

Brian Atlasdefinition I think most people would probably say that that's okay what would come to most people's brains as two groups fighting in a nation Lucas and do so comprehensively and with granular

Brian Atlasdetail and finally pick aide otherwise you're effectless lemming spewing nonsensical circular prattle Andrew was he F bat or M rothbard I think he's talking about the

Andrew Wilsonlibertarian that couldn't think of oh no it wasn't what am I what is it called it's a guy it's the libertarian who always is talking about um how monarchies are actually better I can't

Andrew Wilsonthink of his name off the top of my head he's like a short pudgy guy with glasses I just can't think of his name so me picking aide means that I'm worse than who what do he say that I'm worse than

Andrew Wilsonwhat oh that some chubby guy no he was asking me who I was thinking about earlier when I was referencing um the the guy was ref I just for some reason sometimes you have

Jen Stonethat like brain fog when you're trying to reference a specific person you can't think of it same I have that all the time yeah okay uh let's see we have Jason sorry for the delay on this

SPEAKER_07Jason Jason Castle donated $200 chair one you are a effing idiot shut up dummy thank you Jason um let's see let's see what you look like

Jen StoneJason uh didn't we show him a pre we might have shown him a previous was that the guy that you showed recently that had the picture of him laying down that was weird you Jason possibly possibly Jason

SPEAKER_07Cassell is based yep oh Brooks Brooks jt7 donated $200 I didn't mean to call you fat Brian I just meant that maybe you should eat

Brian Atlasburrito with less calories cost the microwave just as bad as the oven for high calorie food got to lose some weight thank you uh Brooks I do appreciate it thank you so much for your uh message man it's in it's in the works we're going to lose some weight boys

Brian Atlaswe're we're all going to make it bro okay um finishing off here with I guess some of your notes uh you said uh okay we talked about like the comment section yeah comment's bad um you also wrote

Brian Atlasconsidering how much considering how much uh domestic violence there is in the world I don't think it is very healthy spread rhetoric about women to mentally damaged

Jen Stonemen there's aaims here uh what evidence do you have that the men who are watching the show are mentally damaged I think that I think that a lot of society is mentally damaged if they've been hurt

Jen Stoneby women same as women with men if if they're more in tune to like being hateful towards women I just are you a feminist just curious not really I don't I don't know you might be um maybe in

Brian Atlasyour definition I don't really know okay um so can you explain what is the rhetoric precisely about women that were spreading the generalizations just

Jen Stonegeneralizations about women caring about status and and money and and stuff like that like I don't care about a man protecting me I think that's rhetoric you don't care about the man protecting

Jen Stoneyou I mean I'm an introverted woman that Gardens all day I don't need a man to protect me well I mean you do by proxy but why from other men sure why not that could I I don't need let me ask you a question that means I shouldn't be with

Brian Atlasa man right say you need men to protect you from men 90% of murders are committed by men so and like 90% of like in infant murders are committed by women cool yeah are committed by mothers okay

Jen Stonecool true postpartum depression is okay let's just let's just allow women to murder their children because I'm not saying they should I'm not saying they should murder no I don't I don't agree with abortion in most stances do you

Jen Stonehave any evidence that the men who watch my show are mentally Dam I think that uh not all of them I think a large portion of them if you look at the comments are mentally damaged with the hate the hatred like the hate comments they're

Jen Stonesaying just as if I see women saying crazy things about men I think that they should probably get some me comment section the comment section wouldn't even necessarily like people are inclined to leave comments that's like

Andrew Wilsonprobably yeah they're the mentally ill ones thank you 10% of the audience maybe who even leaves comments most you got 100 bucks here that says this that Brian can pull up any random video

Jen Stonehe wants okay and the first 10 comments what they're probably okay how many comments do you I don't read all the comments I see the top ones where people are liking and then you can

Andrew Wilsonassume if they're liking all that that the other people agree with it so okay so so uh let's say this my00

Andrew Wilsonversus you leaving the show for what okay hang on my we got to get through I'm kidding you want me to leave the show all right all right1 we're not going to do we're not

Andrew Wilsongoing to do any gambling on YouTube so I'll just put the 100 up against my I guess myself you get it if you're right and I get it back if I'm right so you don't you have to put up a steak so it's not even gambling right so Brian can

Andrew Wilsonpull up any random video go through the first 10 comments and I don't even think they'll be that bad I don't even think they'll be that bad which video any pick you pick okay let's see uh okay so here's I guess

Brian Atlashere's how we can do it do you want for the live randomized randomized live stream yeah live stream randomized okay so here's what you're going to do Blake private chat I sent you the link to our

Brian AtlasYouTube page let's see the comments of today to hold on hold on see it just okay one second um hide streamyard I'll

Andrew Wilsongo fix it all right yeah yeah we'll just pick a random one I bet you the first 10 aren't even bad like the top ones are the most like recommended um there's the first 10 comments the ones that are the

Andrew Wilsonmost liked I bet they're not even that bad

Andrew Wilsonokay but I'm just betting against me so I mean I I don't always read the comments All I know is just yeah you can pick the video every video I've done this do you know I've done this experiment dozens of times with callers

Andrew Wilsonwho've called in and said that you can tell by the comments and I'm like okay pick any random video we go to the first 10 comments they're never that bad never just like their opinion of the show I

Andrew Wilsonthink chair 6 was wrong about X well that's fine but when you scroll down there's a lot of hatred oh so out of thousands of comments some people say negative things I would say at least a third of them are pretty bad a third

Jen Stoneyeah that's a lot all right you want to do the gorlock episode here you want what gorlock oh I mean I've seen that one of course they going to call gorlock okay which one which one do you want

Jen Stonewhich one um I don't know I I'm not just pick a random one don't picklock pick pick uh what's her name uh rage quit the one first the one

Jen Stoneafter that pick that one all right sure go to the first 10

Brian Atlascomments oh you very tiny um p word is okay andw do you want to read the comments yeah it's it's um I'll make it

Andrew Wilsonyeah okay there we go so it starts with p p word's okay as long as I'm getting paid for it someone call the cops please that doesn't sound bad Hensley I don't like Asians girls woohoo you go girl Chase I don't date

Andrew Wilsontrans how dare you transphobic bigot doesn't sound bad to me I'm pretty sure I could talk to Nicolet for two hours straight and not learn a single useful thing again doesn't sound bad Kiko is the biggest hypocrite on planet Earth again doesn't sound bad Chase these

Andrew Wilsongirls would rather see women at 18 sell their bodies and guys online than get into caring and loving a monogamous relationship with an older guy this such a clear sign of how Society has fallen that's a bad how what's bad about that

Andrew Wilsonit's literally just his General opinion on what he's saying like this is bad it's crazy to me that these 18-year-olds would say this thing the next one is Chase is the guy who walks into the valley of death and fears no evil doesn't sound bad Nicollet is the

Jen Stoneperfect example of what every woman should avoid and why every man should avoid dating hard to know if you haven't seen the episode I agree with you yeah so none of these look bad none of these look bad I know I those people are not

Andrew Wilsonmentally ill oh not those people just everyone else 10 comments okay I hang on hang on do you know why this experiment works so well why are they the top

Andrew Wilsoncomments cuz they're the most liked so if they're the most like that means the most amount of people are saying I agree with this person on this and if the top 10 are not mentally ill and the most amount of people are agreeing with them

Jen Stoneon the likes what can we figure out from that thank you I agree with you but no I I do agree with you on that point but also the mentally ill people on the show

Jen Stoneum I just think it's a generalization um that's unhealthy which girls here are mentally ill no one here that I know of that one girl that left I would say she's mentally ill

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