FERAL GIRL ATTACKS ANDREW?! Gets KICKED OUT! HATER Marxist Feminist STORMS OUT?! | Dating Talk #234

Date: 2025-03-17

Duration: 8h 12m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAndrew Wilson >

KKenzie (Montana)>

AAndrea (UC Merced)>

AAshley (Softball)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Jen Stone(guest)

SPEAKER_04Kenzie (Montana)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Tia(guest)

SPEAKER_10Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_11Ashley (Softball)(guest)

SPEAKER_12Priscilla(guest)

SPEAKER_13Andrea (UC Merced)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Sarah (DNP)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduced

ControversyKenzie opens by calling Andrew a rapist based on marital consent comments

ControversyPriscilla drops F-slur and cracker, gets in Andrew's face. KICKED OFF.

OtherKenzie walks out mid-show

Key MomentAshley: never had boyfriend, never been on date, 600+ hidden Hinge matches

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Jen Stone, Kenzie, Andrea, Priscilla, Tia, Sarah (DNP), Ashley (softball).

Kenzie Calls Andrew Rapist

Based on marital consent comments. Heated debate on consent reversibility.

Priscilla Kicked Off

Drops anti-gay F-slur and cracker on stream. Physical confrontation with Andrew. Kicked off.

Kenzie Walkout

Walked out mid-show after feeling shut down.

Ashley Never Had Boyfriend

Never had boyfriend, never been on date, 600+ hidden Hinge matches.

IQ Test on Stream

Jen attempts IQ test while slightly drunk. Gets sample question wrong.

Transcript

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Andrew Wilsonwell not just that she's smaller than me but that there's going to be repercussions right because of the gendered expectation if I did do that right it gets in my face I can't really do anything anything except turn my head away or walk away to deescalate it right

Andrew Wilsonthat's the only thing I can do I'm literally at your mercy where any of you could have stood up and been like get back right which is hang on which is exactly what hang on hang on hang on which is exactly what would be expected

Jen Stoneif it was a man because you'd be under physical duress I'm under a different kind of duress you're not under duress when you're going like this just saying trying to escalate the situation it wouldn't matter would it matter what

Sarah (DNP)woman did I'm pretty sure we what the woman did if the man was in his face yeah no both cases first of all ass something just pointing it out yeah I just want to add something cuz I just

Sarah (DNP)don't I don't want to be included in The Sisterhood of agreement with that behavior because I don't believe I don't agree with that at all I don't think anyone is agreeing with her behavior I don't really think so either I think

Sarah (DNP)that that was a good example of someone who lacks um behavioral regulation and emotional regulation by the way a fight with me I didn't pick a fight with her

Andrea (UC Merced)being ableist weren't you no she attacked me first but you could restrain from acting like that I think what they're say so how dare I defend myself I

Andrea (UC Merced)think aniz I think what the defending yourself literally just being like get away from me stop no no wait wait a second wait a second when somebody when somebody attacks you right you have two

Andrea (UC Merced)choices you can take it or you can tack back so someone comes at me and then just for example I'd be like oh shut shut your F that was go ahead she's interrupting you now go ahead so like if

Andrea (UC Merced)someone came to me and I'm they're yelling at me for me to defend myself I'm going to say like shut your fat ass up like I'm not defending myself I'm just you know attacking them back that's that is defense attacking people who attack you is defense I don't need to

Andrea (UC Merced)say that you know like I I don't need to say that I could have said something way completely different you could have sure does that give a right to to physically do something to but you defend you defend yourself with those kind of words is just going to escalate it more which

Andrew Wilsonyou know it would well you don't here's the thing don't break it off don't tear it off if you can't handle it right so the thing is is like if you're going to get in someone's face should and like you hit them you should expect to get

Andrea (UC Merced)hit back if you're going to insult somebody you should expect to get insulted back but like um you can see how she's reacting already so you think oh let me add this on and it'll it'll make the situation better it's not going to make it better you know it's going to

Andrew Wilsonmake it worse you know so you can't but then you're you're scared you're hang she's in charge of her behavor and if a man got in your face even if you were being obnoxious to him wouldn't you

Andrea (UC Merced)expect the men to do something about it yeah and and the reason why so it wouldn't even matter if you had escalated it you still I was I was going towards her more to you know deescalate the situation is because you're you're a

Andrea (UC Merced)man you're bigger than her you're stronger than her I don't need to defend you really because nothing's going to happen I'd rather stop her if I if I did if I physically did anything I'm the one

Andrea (UC Merced)who's going to get in trouble for it not her yeah because you're you're just you're stronger you don't need to oh she gets she's like yelling in my face a little bit I'm going to knock her out you don't need to do that yeah right but it's because of that if a man got in

Andrew Wilsonyour face and somebody thought that's different yeah right it's different it's because you're you're way stronger we know what yes but do you understand that the consequences can be identical like police officers come in here beat the [ __ ] out of me drag my ass off to jail

Andrew Wilsonbecause a woman hit me and I hit her back right that's the commonality so we depend on women also to to push women back away cuz we can't we're not allowed to that's the societal structure I don't

Andrew WilsonI don't know you know like a woman is not going to really hurt you unless she has like I mean they can they can a woman can't hurt a guy that she couldn't grab this bottle and hit me with it she was literally looking for things to hit me with that's what she was doing over there she was looking for [ __ ] to throw

Kenzie (Montana)she was looking for things to hit people with yep and I will say Andrew I would have taken your side at that point I would have been the one to Defender so you didn't have to do nothing so I'm not a part of did in your face stood up to

Kenzie (Montana)try and deescalate and I I I do I do want to say I do appreciate you walking away yeah if we if we weren't like protecting you no one would have got up so what wait if we wer weren't

Andrea (UC Merced)protecting him against you guys were protecting him they got up yes you just said he was scared they tried to deescalate prot they

Andrew Wilsonprotected standing up and saying don't is not protecting he was escalating he wasn't a victim in this he was like so I just want to make sure that if you were mouthing off if a guy if a guy called you an insult you called him an insult

Andrew Wilsonback what good is it going to do hang hang just let me ask a question someone hits you you hit them back man or woman I'm just asking the question that if a if a man was being insulting to you and then you insulted him back and then he

Andrew Wilsonwalked over and got in your face pH and look like he's physically going to do something would you expect me and Brian to do something about that wait I you assulted me first I assulted you back and then this guy comes and gets in your face do you expect us to do

Andrew Wilsonsomething about that didn't the assault already happen assult not assault assault okay yeah so he comes he gets in your face do you expect us to do something about that didn't you say the

Andrew Wilsonassault already happened both parties sorry I'm not hearing prop yeah so he insults you insults and then you insult him back and then he comes and gets in your face do you expect me and Brian to

Jen Stonedo something about that yeah okay right so hang on if if you're doing this and laughing while she's there it doesn't seem like you want anybody to oh I see so if you right just kind of laughed at

Andrew Wilsonit what are Y what else are you going to do yeah yeah but at a guy you're just laughing you don't want us to do anything okay well if you were taking it seriously then maybe we would have taken it more seriously yeah you could tell when a woman is scared when a man is

Jen Stonetrying to flirt with her or be aggressive you seem back on scared I was laughing because it was like you know like why would first of all I can't get over

Kenzie (Montana)there but they did get up once she was threatening you that was nice of them I mean I didn't want to like start

Kenzie (Montana)physically restraining anybody um like I said I like I said you know I I do appreciate you walking away as an attempt to diffuse the situation cuz

Brian Atlasthat was the ultimate goal yeah that was uh I don't know if we did a sal sal cheers to Robert Tanner

Brian Atlasfor the um thank you uh cheers to Robert Tanner for the you know what we'll uh can I have that one yeah that's for you sry cheers to Robert Tanner Salo thank you sorry for the delay I'm going to let

Brian Atlasa couple chats come through just because uh we need to uh get those all right um we're not even I'll pull it up but Andrew if two people are drunk having that are they

Brian Atlassimultaneously unable to consent but can consent to graping the other person same action difference is her arbitrary consent presupposition correct okay and then we have uh M

Brian Atlasconsent thank you for that we have Metro mat coming in here sorry for the delays on these guys um I had to kick her out things crazy donated $200 thank you man

SPEAKER_07hey fake comedian please stop speaking I'm sorry also there's zero cognitive reasoning with any of them except maybe chair one chair 2 hi behind

Brian Atlasthe facade of false intelligence word you can respond I mean I don't know thank you I think that was chair two oh I think said one oh oh

Brian Atlasthere is a dimensioned chair one yes he liked her uh let's see here we have Jason coming in Jason

SPEAKER_07$200 well that was entertaining this is what feminism has done to women I hope all you feminists out there are happy I say appeal the 19th and women should

Brian Atlasonly speak when spoken to yeah look I I'll just finish it on this and then we'll actually get into the show um look before the show we went

Brian Atlasover some roles um she's been on the show well she was on the show last week and then she's been on the show before sometimes I I give a bit more

Brian Atlasleeway to people who are new to the show she's been on the show she's heard those instructions that were given to her at least two other times three other times something like that you can't it's just general you don't interrupt it's rude to

Brian Atlasthe person who's speaking she was interrupting she was doing sidebar conversations I was trying the reason I was trying to like get her to actually be like hey tell me what you did wrong is so that we could have a smooth stream and carry on with the stream and so she

Brian Atlascould stop doing that because if I didn't get her to actually make a concession that she was interrupting then she would just continue to be acting in the way that she was not prepared to take any accountability for I can't have a productive stream if

Brian Atlaspeople are interrupting each other talking over each other I like to give people opportunity to speak she just wasn't having it instead of just being like you know what yeah I did interrupt I was doing a

Brian Atlassidebar sorry I would have just moved it on she had to be Lippy she had to give me attitude and then I said look if you can't follow the rules you're going to

Brian Atlashave to leave I gave her I trust me if she was on the certain another podcast she would have be gone much quicker than here I gave her a lot of opportunities I tried to tell her what she was doing wrong so she could correct

Brian Atlasit she didn't she got the kick and then after when the uh predictable kick was coming based off of her conduct after I warned her then she was like okay well let me

Brian Atlasjust try to maliciously sabotage your show by saying these things are not appropriate for the platforms um then she attempted to assault Andrew that's actually like a criminal act Andrew if you were so inclined you could probably

Brian Atlaslike f call the police in my benevolence I'll let this one go the patriarchy is benevolent so

Brian Atlasbefore where I was getting to we haven't even gotten into relationship status uh I was about to say that the debate partner that you have for tomorrow Andrew uh she has canceled she's

Brian Atlascancelled uh I'm going to try to fill with something else okay um doesn't matter maybe Kenzie wants the round two tomorrow I don't know I leave at 5: a.m. tomorrow unfortunately not but I'll try to replace with

Brian Atlassomething else but the everything else is solid uh but maybe just come and do a Q&A possibly uh Blake I'm going to have you pull up the window tab but make sure

Brian Atlasnot to show the Instagram so guys this woman has bailed on Andrew I don't know if you recall this woman she was on a dating talk panel Andrew I don't know if you recall this this woman here uh just leave it there that's fine and just

Brian Atlasleave leave it there leave it there and so uh she did this already once to Andrew now mind you Andrew th he flies out here at at time

Brian Atlasand expense we help him out with that with the costs so this is the second time she's kind of done this at this point I have to assume it's Mal malicious excuse me we relied on her

Brian Atlasagreement and promise this is the lawsuit component we uh we agreed and relied to our detriment there's legal principle called detrimental Reliance if

Brian Atlasyou rely on the promise of somebody else and it detriments you in some way you have a a claim so I'm actually going to file a lawsuit against this girl because

Brian Atlasit's just I can't have people doing this to Andrew they're just last minute oh and the the reason was which mind you she she was already aware she was like oh I don't like his

Brian Atlaslike political leanings and like his positions I'm like you were aware of that before we booked you what that's what you're coming on to

Brian Atlasdebate in any case um so I am going to follow lawsuit against her and just because I can't have people [ __ ] over Andrew like this can't have people [ __ ] over the podcast Andrew comes out here he's got a family he's got

Brian Atlasother stuff going on it's incredibly disrespectful and rude uh to the to us to Andrew so I have to do something like hey if you're going to [ __ ] with us and Troll and take up uh a booking I'm just

Brian Atlasgoing to follow a lawsuit against you so anyways um so that was the update before we got into the whole uh waking up with that sort of okay hey it's Chris Scott good guy Chris uh I've seen a lot of episodes Brian has the P patience of a

Brian Atlassaint most people would not tolerate the amount of disrespect women give him uh hey Christopher I really appreciate it thank you man yeah I mean dealing with somebody like that my patience is going to be pretty limited but I like to think

Brian AtlasI gave her some opportunities to try to correct course because my instead of just kicking somebody off I'm like here's what you're

Brian Atlasdoing wrong can you stop doing that and if you can't help me out and be like you know what yeah I shouldn't interrupt sorry I won't do it again but if you're

Brian Atlasjust going to be antagonistic like she is she's going to get the kick so don't like to have to kick people but it is what it is okay um we got a couple things coming through here Chromo Jones

Brian Atlasgifted I I don't know if this already came up kaiaka thank you for the choma Jones thank you for the gifted 10 kaiaka thank you for the gifted 20 uh thank you man also guys if you are enjoying the

Andrew Wilsonstream kindly oops kindly like the video please like the video and let me um let me go make a call I'm pretty confident that my wife is probably freaking the [ __ ] out and wanting to come down here and probably beat a woman up so I'm just

Brian Atlasgoing to go make a quick call and I'll be right back yeah yeah yeah does she want to do a call in tonight like a cameo ask her that sure she will but okay let me add yeah that's fine uh Andrew will be just back he's going to do a call uh guys if you want to get a

Brian Atlasreadin it's 100 TTS is 200 also like the video please and if you want 100% of your contribution to go to the podcast YouTube takes uh 30% streamlabs you

Brian Atlasdon't have to pull it up it's fun um streamlabs takes uh 30% or sorry 3 to 4% you can do it VI venmo cash app whatever pod and then also discord.gg can you

Brian Atlaspull up the Discord but before you do put it on the uh behind the scenes tab so I those of you some of you just tuning in we had to kick a girl off she's being

Brian Atlasbehind the scenes she's being just completely uh obnoxious so can you ex out that white or the yellow bar up there yeah uh no that that's fine that's

Brian Atlasfine um so I'm going to post the behind the scenes of the madness that just ensued on discord.gg whatever we have the behind the scenes tab there um she was yelling

Brian Atlasat me as she was leaving she was hurling insults I I think she said that she hopes that I never h uh what did she say Andrew I

Brian Atlasoverheard it hopes that I never have a wife or girlfriend and get her pregnant or something I don't know whatever uh just a bunch of uh insults were flowing so if you want to see that [ __ ]

Brian AtlasInsanity I'm going to post at discord.gg whatever all right here we go we have a couple other chats that I'm going to read then we're going to actually get into the show uh blaest Andrew this

Brian Atlasisn't a house fire or an emergency double standards haven't been paused for effect yet what is that about not entirely sure I'll pull it back up though when Andrew

Brian Atlasis back oh my oh boy you guys are going to get okay hold on here I'll do here before wait let me read these first Lucas just in case there were any lingering doubts about whether modern day women automatically deserve chivalry

Brian Atlasby default I think that wait I think that earlier incident all but wrapped up that debate in a little B oh you know it's funny that girl's been on the show before and she was like oh yeah men should pay for First Dates men

Brian Atlasshould be shiverers blah blah blah and it's like your conduct is not ladylike you don't deserve chivalry uh okay we have but Lucas that's a very good observation wal the day Andrew Grace

Brian Atlastheir podcast was the mo most important day of their lives to him it was Tuesday okay I'll pull this back up when Andrew's here um let's see here uh oh boy okay thank you wal appreciate that then

Brian Atlaswe have Charlie bro you're going to get us all uh well okay thank you Char donated

SPEAKER_07$1,000 pop champagne hey don't even need to drink this is just to help you Ryan and Andrew out thank you man also if Rachel wants to do a call in off of this that would be great to have Rachel

Brian Atlastonight yeah thank you um yeah that would be awesome to have Rachel I'm going to guys I'm going to get it I know the panel is kind of uh antsy to get to the actual content of the show I'm sure the viewers are too we're going to get

Brian Atlaswe're going to get right to it I apologize for the uh the chaos there we're going to pop this bottle and then we're going to get right into the actual uh show so um while I'm doing that does

Jen Stoneanybody um I I have something I just have to say I didn't expect to get um buzzed before we even start anything but thank you we

Brian Atlasneed it after all of that I have thank you Charlie thank you Charli let's see here hitting women podcast defending yourself against women is like

Brian Atlasdefending yourself against children I don't know if you're in I don't know if you're in favor of of ma men defending themselves or against it I don't know but uh thank you for the uh the message

Brian Atlasman do you want to pour for uh the people here uh we I think we get Kenzie's been fair I think Kenzie you want some not a lot oh no you know

Brian Atlaswhat I I I didn't allow her to have champagne initially but now she's like no I I I don't know why that upsets you no it's it's kind of fun it's actually

Kenzie (Montana)kind of funny it's clever um it is uh it is good I mean I I appreciate I appreciate the offer if you want me to say if you want to thank I'll accept it I'll accept it I have something to say I

Andrea (UC Merced)have something to say oh um so you were upset that she called Andrew a Grapist and that you know she made his image look bad in front of thousands of people sure but then right now you were saying

Andrea (UC Merced)that oh I heard you say that you understand what the slurs that she was calling us you said that earlier like oh you understand you said that you understand the slurs that she was saying why she was saying these slurs when I

Andrea (UC Merced)didn't say I understand I don't understand if somebody on this side's talking just switch it over okay and I'm saying I told you that I did not agree with the slurs that she was calling you or saying on the podcast but then you're

Andrea (UC Merced)trying to make it seem that you know in front of this in front of this podcast in front of thousands of people that I am okay with that and I do agree that she was saying that why why would you make me look bad like that when you

Brian Atlasdidn't want him to look bad like why why did you think that was bad but not you making me look like that was yeah so I'll answer that in three parts so the first part is uh I don't have the same level of rapport with you that I have

Brian Atlaswith Andrew Andrew is I've known Andrew for two years he's a friend of mine I'm going to come to the defense of a friend quicker than a total stranger who's actually an op and opposition secondly

Brian Atlasum I think her me saying that you agreed with the statement that she said is not on the same level of uh egregiousness as

Brian Atlasher calling him a literal that's not what I said okay what in any case whatever you did do and whatever my interpretation of it my interpretation would be is that what she did is more

Brian Atlasegregious than whatever I did to you by saying that you were like kind of backing her and like kind of like yeah you go girl no I never was like that I would liter like oh my God they're such

Brian Atlasjerks yeah you were like you were like you want me to push her out no it's going to make the situation worse no but I don't think you need to be like co-signing her conduct oh that's your phone that's your

Brian Atlasfun that's for fun sometimes you got to be positive to get the problem out the way sorry I'm not that's fine it's not a big deal I want to move on from The Meta conversation but I don't think it's like I don't really think it's a fair comparison to be like it's it's

Brian Atlasliterally just you know just treating human beings you know like respect I mean I'm calling you out for you being like a part of The Sisterhood and this is something this is just a generalized

Brian Atlascriticism hold on hold on yes this is a generalized criticism that I have of women is that there's a tendency to like look at bad conduct that other women are

Brian Atlasdoing and just kind of like uh what's the perfect word for it uh condone no there's another word for it like um brush it off uh it sort of brush off but it's a specific condone did you already

Brian Atlassay it is condone but I'm looking for a specific turn of phrase um sort of like rug sweep or like you kind of just like sweep it under the rug it's not sweep it under the rug it's kind of like wave janies no not no it's like they're

Brian Atlasjanies they're janit they're janning it up no no no no it's uh chat help me out because I'm I'm totally brain fogging here oh whatever I just thought that was kind of weird how you were acting like that and then just like you could do

Andrea (UC Merced)that towards another person when you're upset that someone else did that like you're upset that someone else can act like that but it's okay for you to do it I think my assessment of kind of weird and you're a grown adult so like you

Brian Atlaskind of you should know that's that's like it's common sense to not be like that but you know you you obious it's handwave I was looking for hand waving a lot of women handwave other women's poor

Andrea (UC Merced)Behavior I wasn't telling her you were hand waving her poor Behavior I was literally never telling her like good job or nothing like no I was not giving her an award for I was not aing so jerks

Andrea (UC Merced)I SL slay Queen you're so I'm not going to lie you are you you guys are disrespectful like you like you were your eyes like a little child how was I disrespectful until I was disrespected I

Andrea (UC Merced)mean you can you can disagree with someone but still be respectful like how how was I specifically disrespectful till I was disrespected so this is still a job right this is not just like for funsies like cuz we're getting paid for

Andrea (UC Merced)it so this is a job so you're going to go to a job place and you don't agree with someone you're going to roll your eyes at them like that's kind of weird that's childish you guys are grown men

Andrew Wilsonwhen did I do that you guys do do that I just 100% owning di you guys is plural you meaning to meaning not just him but

Andrew Wilsonalso me when was I disrespectful to anybody till I was disrespected when you have been disrespectful towards me also you guys how give me an example so I could have right now when you said how

Andrea (UC Merced)when I was talking I could have been like hey let me talk cuz you guys do that towards too like hey like let me speak let me speak I'm not upset about that we're having an exchange that's disrespect how was I disrespectful till I was disrespected is my question again

Andrew Wilsonplease answer it how were you disrespectful until I was disrespected honestly there's just so much it yeah so you know it's nothing nothing you have nothing because I was

Andrew Wilsoncompletely respectful to everybody here until she came over and she's like uhuh let me give you a peace of my mind before I leave and I [ __ ] you I I don't care about your peace of mind we if you're give me a piece of yours I'm

Andrew Wilsongoing to give you a piece of mine but if you're respectful to me when have I ever not been respectful to anybody here at this table as we've been sitting here uh even one time can I say something sure you

Tiahesitated or I don't even think you did like um acknowledge when we when we said you said sure when she said she asked for permission to talk that that's all I got to say that's the only time I have

Tiathought you were a little I don't have any idea what the hell you're talking about whatever like we said we move past it but I said that was the one time other than that I have not seen you be disrespect I'm moving this song yeah who was I I wasn't disrespectful to anybody right that's not what I said who was I

Brian Atlasdisrespectful to no nobody yeah you got nothing you got nothing I mean I I could keep going but I'm just let's get into the content of the show let's get into the content

Brian Atlasof the show uh Charlie we did I think there's a champagne pop that went off while you were gone uh there I think we poured some champagne for you uh Charlie Lou thank you for the champagne pop

Jen Stonecheers I'm getting held responsible for anything you do Brian I'm just sitting here like what did I do I won't defend you a lot but tonight before she escalated it I don't think you did

Andrew Wilsonanything I didn't do anything totally totally respectful to everybody until disrespected by the way that's the way it always goes kiny for future reference

Andrew Wilsonwhen you do your uh your like video [ __ ] Talk reviews just remember that if you go back far enough you'll always see that it's not until somebody disrespects

Andrew Wilsonme that I'm disrespectful to them okay ever did I say no I'm just giving it to you for future reference great thank you if you can do your like your little micro Grapist aggressions then I can do

Brian Atlasmy microaggressions too that was a microaggression I thought it was a macro my bad oh macroaggression yeah okay so um here guys uh give me

Brian Atlasjust one sec okay guys uh yeah sure okay so uh I'm a little lost on some of where we're at with the chats uh let me see there's a few coming

Brian Atlasthrough uh as a follow on I feel sorry for the sucker that takes that raving spawn of Hell to the altar chair too my wife laughs so hard that her drink literally came out her through her nose

Brian Atlaslistening continued to which he uh continues here in just a moment uh thank you Lucas for the uh message appreciate it we're going to get right back on it guys I'm just letting these come through

Brian Atlasto your crackpot dissertation on the proprietary of bedroom activity be between husband and wife she' we each should we each execute a notorized proxy authorizing blanket sexual consent do

SPEAKER_08you require one or two witnesses and she hates Purity culture that's the funniest part about it she hates Purity culture but she's super concerned that you're GNA wake your wife up with your dick bro she's so concerned she going to wake

SPEAKER_08your wife up with sex like almost every other American has done since it's so crazy to me is is is Rachel going to be free for a cameo yeah she said she wants to call it talk to Kenzie she's we'll do that not not right now but maybe she

Brian Atlaswant Kenzie to call her a Grapist to her face okay sure we will have Rachel do a call in all right this is perhaps the latest Brian straight out the ball yeah

Brian Atlasum this is perhaps the latest that we are getting through the uh relationship portion of the show so and I'm bus already yeah and there's been there's

Andrew Wilsonbeen three champagne pops show than yeah but you know what you know what there hasn't been six and that's the problem I'm after the thing the thing is thing is is that I'm disappointed in The Crucible crew oh not enough yeah not enough not enough I don't know man we're

Brian Atlasgoing to run we might run out of champagne balls but no we we we got unlimited flow okay so going around the table what is your current relationship status and if you're single how long have you been single and what's the

Brian Atlaslongest relationship you've ever been in starting with you I am single I have been single since since 2021 um longest relationship is 4 years all right uh single so single for about

Brian Atlas4 years and longest relationship four years right yeah mhm okay was it what was it not on her

Brian Atlaswhen it was on her when she said okay um okay so and you've been single for four years yeah you've been celibate um like not the whole time but majority

Brian Atlasoh sorry uh not the whole time but the majority of it yes okay um and in the four years you've been single have you been dating at all has there been something shortterm like a couple months

Jen Stonea situationship anything like that um nothing pasted like three dates three dates okay um but mostly I don't date um last time I dated was like a year and a

Brian Atlashalf ago okay so you've been celibate for a while then yeah and uh I think in your notes you mentioned that oh I'll come I'll come to those later pertaining to uh like interesting dates

Brian Atlasand stuff um all right Kenzie what about you um I'm single I've been single for 3 years and my longest relationship is 11 years okay so you said single for 3

Brian Atlasyears yep longest 11 years uh were you married yes only time married yes okay

Brian Atlasand uh how many times uh or who initiated the divorce me okay and um um you have one kid yes just just the one

Brian Atlasyes okay single for three years have you been dating it all in that time period no okay uh no dating uh anything at all like maybe a short-term fling or

Andrea (UC Merced)anything like that or just no dating no dating okay all right what about you single um my longest relationship I

Andrea (UC Merced)don't know like a few months it was long distance didn't really count okay long a few months I'll just say 3 months never

Brian Atlashad a boyfriend is that correct um yeah basically okay and uh okay uh are you currently uh dating a

Andrea (UC Merced)guy or seeing a guy um no I was kind of seeing someone but it ended like a few weeks ago okay yeah all right what about

Tiayou um my longest like can you tilt the mic down tilt the mic down sure you kep adjusting yeah okay um the longest Like official relationship where like we met our

Tiafamilies and stuff was like a year but the longest like situationship like is four years yeah what else what was the other thing so you're single currently yes and longest relationship four years

Tiahow long you've been single again longest relationship was one year but the situationship which I count as kind of like single okay so you've been single for how long 3 years 3 years but you did

Kenzie (Montana)have a situationship which is ongoing yes okay got it are you loyal to your situationship yeah just like talking but not committed

Andrew Wilsonor how how usually it's humping without without committing okay well so you can have a situationship without him you can but it's not usually the ones I hear about Blake Blake you got to be there's

Tiasex going on in most of the ones I hear about just saying I think we so it's just an uncommitted yeah relationship like we're both just money producers and he's in school so we just got other

Sarah (DNP)things to focus on you know but yeah so you're currently seeing a guy yes okay I am single uh my last relationship

Sarah (DNP)was 3 years ago and my longest relationship was a year uh okay one year was that the one that ended three years ago yes okay and

Brian Atlasuh I my understanding is you are uh you're Christian correct I am and you're waiting until marriage I am and you're virgin is that correct yes I am okay and you are what denomination I'm a seventh

Ashley (Softball)avist okay mhm okay what about you um I am 21 years single uh I wouldn't really say a

Ashley (Softball)situationship um you could throw it in there but to them it was nothing um yeah wa so our situation St like you can can you be exclusive to your situationship

Ashley (Softball)no I wouldn't even call it a situationship um sorry no you're good I wouldn't even call it a situationship um it was um someone who I really liked for a long period of time voice that to them

Brian Atlasand I would say according to them it was not reciprocated even though the actions were um shown to be different okay so you're single yes sir never had a boyfriend correct um let me

Ashley (Softball)pull up your notes on this because I have a couple uh have you ever been on a date um just recently I went 20 years without dating um but I told myself going into this year I wanted to at least open up

Brian Atlasto it um cuz nothing will come from anything if I don't give it a try Okay um hold on I'm I'm trying to get to your notes on this and uh you're Christian also correct yes sir the nomination uh

Brian Atlasnon denom I grew up Methodist though gotcha okay and uh you said in your notes you never dated anyone nor gone on a date you said you don't trust men correct you don't believe men correct

Ashley (Softball)and you don't understand men correct when you say you don't trust men what do you mean um so I put it out there pretty

Ashley (Softball)early that I'm not into hookups I'm not into um just hitting and dipping I am not about that I'm not for that um I know a lot of people are and I voice that very early on to talking to someone

Ashley (Softball)and I've gotten myself into a lot of situations where I tell them no I tell them I'm not going to do it get into it and they try to pursue something and I have to get myself out of something thing that I shouldn't have to um I make

Ashley (Softball)it very apparent at the beginning of talking to someone that I'm not going to have sex with you like I'm not doing it and they you know they still persist and it's just very frustrating and you you

Brian Atlaswrote here so you've never been on any dates nor gone on a date uh you are Christian you said that in your notes that you lost your virginity at 20 so like about a year ago uh yes sir okay with someone who you said you were very

Brian Atlascomfortable with and you trusted correct uh how long but you I'm a bit confused because you said you've never dated anyone or gone on a date yeah so I kind of planned on being in a relationship um

Ashley (Softball)I have never met anyone who was a virgin um at my age and I never felt uncomfortable with it I never I was honestly very proud of it like it wasn't a something that I was ashamed of um I

Ashley (Softball)think morally I'm very there I'm very right and I just never met anyone with it and so finding someone who I had a relationship with a really good friend and I felt comfortable with him enough

Ashley (Softball)to have that connection with him um and unfortunately just never went anywhere after that I see okay and uh so I want to stay too I made like we

Ashley (Softball)waited about two years um of being in a friendship and I knew that it wasn't a sexual thing oh hey you can't you got to be careful you

Brian Atlascan't if you kick under the tripod is right there man um I'll have to go fix that in a sec um okay go ahead yeah no I just I knew it wasn't a sexual thing I

Ashley (Softball)had plenty of people tell me around me that um he was just in it to you know get it from me and there were multiple different situations where he actually didn't want to pursue it with me um because he didn't want to lose our

Ashley (Softball)friendship now that I matured a year later I kind of look back at it um and kind of see some of the manipulation um that happened but I will never reg it a

Brian Atlascouple clarifying questions here so you were you were friends with him correct for two years yes sir and so was there a

Brian Atlasperiod of time where prior to you guys having hooked up that you had where it was going in like a more romantic direction or was the hookup like you guys were always friends and this was

Ashley (Softball)like you did have like a comfort with him and it was kind of maybe spontaneous hookup um no it was definitely a connection with him I he's the first guy

Ashley (Softball)I've ever really liked like that I can count on one hand like the amount of people that I've liked in my life and um I felt that connection with him I felt that bond with him I'm not someone who flurt with guys I have a hard time

Ashley (Softball)talking to people actually and I he's the first person I've ever been able to open up to um and truly truly truly grow connection with and that's when kind of the gaslighting and manipulation comes in cuz I thought it would maybe

Ashley (Softball)potentially turn into something more before having a sexual relationship with him uh I had such a good friendship with him that I thought something would come from so I guess I understand that you guys were friends for the initial part of your uh

Brian Atlasrelationship with him and when I say relationship that could apply to a friendship or just your your relationship with him in totality including the friendship and the uh romantic and sexual component um so I

Brian Atlasguess how um had you guys did you guys only hook up once um no it was a few times um a couple times um so how I guess how long into

Ashley (Softball)the friendship did it kind of get more into like a romantic feel I guess um it was always there and that's kind of the problem

Ashley (Softball)that I have with it is he actually ended up dating someone like in the middle of our kind of connection I would say and when I voiced that to him like I never talk bad about him I always stood up for

Ashley (Softball)him I'm like he's a great guy like I was happy for him I hope I wished him the best honestly um I just wanted him to be happy at the end of the day and people were talking bad about his name about about the fact that he didn't like me back and how I was such a great person

Ashley (Softball)and he actually got on to me and was like you're bashing my name and I'm like I would never I would never do that and I told him I'm like we we've Kissed before we've had intimate moments together and he told me that there was

Ashley (Softball)nothing there and that he never felt anything um and that basically I was just making it all up in my head so so is this after you guys had hooked up this before Oh before yes sir wait so he told you he feels nothing for you

Ashley (Softball)correct and why did you pursue it um it was that was about a couple months later whenever our relationship actually grew as friends from him being trying to grow a

Ashley (Softball)connection with this other person um and yeah I honestly I like I said I trusted him enough um it was

Ashley (Softball)more the moment that I did I guess lose my virginity and stuff like that as to come hoping to be in a long-term relationship with someone who I truly

Ashley (Softball)love I loved him um and I told him that I genu how he respond um I cried for like 3 weeks so he said

Ashley (Softball)thank you he he um he was in shock like I said he told me that we would kiss like non you know not just like we were at a bar and we're making out like we

Ashley (Softball)would have those moments together and he he later on confessed that he just said it because he didn't want me to like think that there was an Ever chance with

Ashley (Softball)us um so they were just what did he say he he told me like so beginning he told me that I just made it all up in my head then later on he told me that there was actually something there but that we

Ashley (Softball)could never be together he was Hispanic so his first excuse was that his family didn't speak English um and then his next excuse hold

Ashley (Softball)on he wait so what was he blaming on his English as a second language status yeah that his parents didn't speak English so he could never date a white girl because

Brian AtlasI wouldn't be able to have that relationship with his family oh okay I I see what he was saying I thought you were saying there was a there was like a miscommunication and he blamed it on

Brian Atlassecond the second language no um one sec I'll get to you in a sec um and so you um so how long I mean did you continue so you guys hooked up how long did you

Ashley (Softball)continue to see him after the hookup a couple it was on and off um for I would say a couple months but I began to realize that it was only when it was convenient for him um and when you say

Brian Atlasconvenient for him you mean like spending time together when he wanted to so he would text you at 11:00 p.m. on a Friday saying what are you doing come over um it was more of like we went to

Ashley (Softball)the gym together we would I bought food for him like we would go out we would we spent a lot of time together and he was my genuinely like my best friend and it was just kind of I guess that side of it

Ashley (Softball)that we were helping each other out on cuz I only had one body and I'm keeping it to that and um that was just kind of what that was there for right so you wrote here that uh you will you're going to be waiting until you find your

Ashley (Softball)Forever person to get with anyone further on so are you waiting until marriage um I want to be in love with someone knowing that they will be I I plan on talking about this because it's

Ashley (Softball)so hard to say 100% I would love to wait to till marriage I would give anything to do that and for my last person to be my forever person the fact of the matter is if you say that to a guy that you

Ashley (Softball)just start talking to and just meeting it scares them away I I I can't voice that enough that I can say straight up how I feel that I want the next person that I have intimacy with to be my

Brian Atlasforever person I can't say that without scaring someone away okay um and you said you only have one body and you plan to keep it that way until you meet your Forever person yes sir um

Brian AtlasI guess my I guess my confusion here a little bit is it did it doesn't sound like this was your standard with this

Ashley (Softball)guy is that fair to say yes sir yeah it 100% wasn't and I will never regret anything um obviously I do wish that I lasted 20 years and I planed to keep

Ashley (Softball)doing that my Purity and um you know where where my morals are was not kind of how I acted in it but I think I still have those in me and I know I still have

Ashley (Softball)those in me and I sounds like you regret it I will never regret anything um like I way you talk about it though you say it sounds like you do regret it I wish

Ashley (Softball)that I wasn't I'm not going to use the word gaset I wish that something would have came from it at least because I did genuinely I love this man and um now

Ashley (Softball)back at it but it sounds like he basically always told you it was n reciprocal he later on told me it was but then that's when the excuses started to come into play of why we could never

Andrew Wilsonbe together but you hadn't slept with him at that point right um the beginning no I hadn't yeah so the the term from that to when he said no it's never going

Andrew Wilsonto become anything to then the later time where you actually did sleep with this guy what was he saying to you then

Andrew Wilsonafterwards yeah um no up to the point up to that point after so let's go to point a point a is gaslighting says he can't really be with you this and that then he

Andrew Wilsonsays he can yeah right but then he also says Ah but not really yeah so then how did you get from I don't really want this long-term relationship to now I'm sleeping with the guy yeah so what's odd enough is

Ashley (Softball)that the day that we got together I actually met his family for the first time that day um when I had just turned 20 he sent me a long paragraph about how he doesn't think that it's right for us to do it and that he doesn't want me to

Ashley (Softball)catch feelings and that if I did I would fall madly in love with him Bubby I was already in love with you before like we hooked up frankly getting with him did nothing like it didn't change where I was with him so he sent you all this before you hooked up with him yeah this

Ashley (Softball)was like months before this was like three months before we got together so you were the pursuer um no not necessarily because he sent me that and that's how I knew that it wasn't for a

Ashley (Softball)sexual reason like he truly wanted to be we were truly best friends that he liked me for who I was and he would defend me till the end of the day like it wasn't a sexual thing for for a man to tell a woman that I don't want to hook up with

Ashley (Softball)you because like I want to keep our friendship like I don't want you to catch feelings for me all that stuff I mean that says a lot about who he was that's how I saw it I was like you you're not going to you know you're giving I'm basically I was here like I

Ashley (Softball)had had a little bit to drink that day I was texting him I was ready and for him to tell me that like no I don't think we should I mean that said a lot to me and

Ashley (Softball)so passed forward three months I drove all the way a couple hours to go pick him up from his family's house met his family everything um went over to watch I had I had slept with him like before like

Ashley (Softball)watching movies and stuff like that but nothing more than you know that um staying with him I guess you could say um and so just there's been times where I've said no I'm not ready and this time

Ashley (Softball)you know I was ready and cuz I trusted him so much to have that connection like I was embarrassed like I'm very self-conscious in myself who I am as a person body all that stuff and so I

Ashley (Softball)trusted him so much that I was ready to open myself up to him it still sounds kind of like you were the pursuer

Ashley (Softball)though like am I wrong there or um I don't want to say I thought something would come from it not that I would hook up with him and that oh he would fall madly in love with me no I

Ashley (Softball)just had that connection with him and like I said like I don't regret doing it I don't I don't know I don't know I don't want to stay on the pursuer I think it was completely Mutual like cuz there's been times where I've told him no I'm not ready and like we could have

Andrew Wilsonvery much so multiple different times yeah right but if it so I guess this the mindset I'm trying to get um so multiple times this guy told

Andrew Wilsonyou yeah I really don't want to do this cuz if we do it's going to ruin everything right and then when he did it did ruin everything right no no you're still still good friends with this guy

Ashley (Softball)um I've distanced myself because as I said like I've matured and I'm ready to open myself up to a future husband and a lifelong relationship so after you slept with him he's da he started dating other

Ashley (Softball)people right uh yeah he went back with his ex after he yeah okay yeah I kind of figured so so the thing is is I mean he he did he did kind of tell you though um

Ashley (Softball)he did that's why like I don't like frankly I would never get in a relationship with him even after when we were hooking up um I knew that nothing would come from it and I didn't want anything come from like it sounds like

Andrew Wilsonif he if he walked away from his current girl right this second called you and said you know I actually do adore you and I just made a huge mistake that he would be right back in there Andrew I refused to because I gave this man everything I could have offered him

Ashley (Softball)everything and he turned me down and I refused to be the second choice yes I was hooking up with him at the time but that was strictly because I'm not I'm definitely not adding another body to me

Ashley (Softball)and you know it was pleasuring um but the way that he treated me the way that he made me feel I refused to ever feel like that again I I refuse to and I I swear on all like if he would have

Brian Atlasthrown everything down and said I'm ready to be with you I would never I I would not do it cuz I know what I deserve and like at the time you know I was immature and all right I'm going to move it on but what we can maybe come back to some of that a little bit later

Brian Atlason so okay uh going to Jen here I'm going to need you to scoot into the table cuz you're just yes far away um so Jen you wrote in your pre-show notes that you would like to come on the

Brian Atlaspodcast as someone who looks like a bimbo but has an actual IQ yeah we're going to go split okay um so fix the

Jen Stonesplit uh so what is your IQ I guess um I am dyslexic in in school I um actually

Jen Stonegot tested not one of these stupid um online things um yeah I was one for 43 damn well that's is that men wait you

Andrew Wilsonyou were over 140 yeah 143 I have a twin sister she was 142 my brother the percentage of the population that's over 140 is extremely small I know wait you

Jen Stoneyou said you took it on yeah I did it in school eth grade cuz yeah I was hold on hold on that's what I was about to ask you said you took it in school how old were you when you took it

Brian AtlasI was um fifth grade you got had 143 score on the IQ test in fifth grade 11 in

Jen Stonefifth grade yeah what what was the cost what was the cost for the IQ test um there was no cost I was having issues I had a slur

Jen Stoneand I wasn't like performing um like that's actually really common they take they do assessments so yeah they were trying to like hold me back grades and stuff but yeah during the assessment um have you had a tested as an adult no you

Jen Stoneknow it fluctuates yeah I know yeah but I mean when I see people on the show still the same or I mean I wouldn't say it's that high but I'd say it's higher than average okay all right um You said that

Brian Atlasyou don't sleep around and you would like to debate on things you said you agree with a lot that is said on the show there are just some things you would like to give your input on um so I guess the first thing is some of the

Brian Atlasthings that you want to get into I think we had initially had you scheduled but then there was a cancellation and you wrote to to us saying the following considering what is happening to our nation right now I'm not sure it is in

Brian Atlasmy best interest to be associated with your podcast we are in the uh [ __ ] around and find out stage of politics yall say that Democrats are the delusional ones but that's not ACC I'm not a Democrat first of all sure but you did say you all say that Democrats are

Jen Stonethe delusional ones but that's not accurate at all I say I think both sides are delusional that's what I meant okay yeah so Democrats are delusional but s of the Republicans all of it the whole

Jen Stonesystem uh dulu dulu okay um you said that well you also realized like Brian's an independent right oh yeah I mean I didn't know that but um I'm just saying

Jen Stonein general I'm not blaming Brian for the dulu of the world um I'm not blaming Brian for the dulu of the world okay yeah Am I who did I vote

Jen Stonefor well you independently voted for Trump oh sure I had to give Trump many independent sure sure that's I'm not

Brian Atlasblaming Brian I mean show in general and uh sure sure aspects of that um so I'm G to wait so hold on I'm going to make a note to come back to this but I'm going

Brian Atlasto jump to some of your other disagreements um so you said that uh we're good at debate techniques AKA

Jen Stonemanipulation techniques oh yeah a lot of debate is just a form of manipulation like it's not about winning the debate it's about uh controlling the conversation whoever's in control um

Jen Stonethere's a lot of people that aren't um used to debate and those tactics so they're quiet and uh they get confused easily and they are more

Jen Stoneagreeable in those situations and it doesn't really it's not constructive to actually coming to Solutions in society it's more like who's the winner who's the loser and it just kind of when you

Jen Stonesay that there's birth problem birth rate problems and hatred uh well he does um it's kind of not sorry finish the hatred of oh on both

Jen Stonethere's more hatred on both sides of the Sexes comments and people um if if you want a

Jen Stonesociety to work we should come to Solutions instead of uh having uh see like I love this type of ideology

Andrew Wilsonletl I have more respect for the Marxist feminist over there next to you and here's here's here's actually why yeah okay cuz she picks a side she and here's the thing right it's like hang on hang on I'll explain right so if you're a

Andrew Wilsonknight on a battlefield and you're going out to battle right and in the modernity in modernity the battle is the infowar and debate what sorry the information war that is the battle in modernity and

Andrew Wilsonthe tool that we have one of the Primary Weapons we have is debate and discourse people are going to be good at it they're going to be bad at it I agree with that portion of it right yeah you're a good Master the worst part the worst part is when people refuse to pick

Andrew Wilsona side of it oh I mean hang on hang on hang on almost done it's when they refuse to pick a side of it right at least I know her side and at least she knows my side so at least when we go to the battlefield right and we're duking

Andrew Wilsonit out um we understand what the hell it is we're fighting for you like the position that you have of the perceived neutrality right I'm not that neutral that's the thing right is that I don't

Jen Stonethink you're neutral I think though that you're trying to frame this as though you're I'm not neutral I I'm I'm not a Democrat I'm not blaming you for this I'm here for a solution I'm libertarian I'm here for a

Jen Stonesolution not just fighting against each other and making with people who disagree with libertarianism the Marxist feminist does and I do I'm coming I I don't care I want a solution to the

Kenzie (Montana)problem instead of fighting against each other all the time do does it bother you that he's independent just curious I I'm more independent that he's independent since he hasn't picked that was like

Andrew Wilsonobviously me joking I don't know if you picked that up or not but that's why he was laughing oh gotcha okay so I was like that's why I'm here is I was obvious that was like obviously me joking but anyway that that yeah why I'm

Jen Stonehere is um like we're all repulsed from each other and what your show is doing is making us more repuls from each other what is it actually doing to help Society sure well I'll I'll answer that

Brian Atlasin a couple ways so before I do don't want to quite let you get away with this so you said uh we're good at debate Tech techniques AKA manipulation techniques uh I explain that why I say it's

Brian Atlasmanipulation yeah give me a precise example of like a a scenario in which either tonight or like a previous show I have I hold on hold on let me finish stop stop stop stop stop let me finish

Brian Atlaslet me get my words sorry sorry can you pre present either tonight or previous episode a manipulation technique I've employed go ahead oh it's

Brian Atlasnot you it's him uh really yeah yeah I don't have that many problems with you you're nice oh I never said problem okay well I'll come back to that and you guys can have that conversation then let me I'll get through it's not you but you

Brian Atlashave an issue with the show so I'll address that one you said that uh let's see here you wrote well I'll come through a couple things you said that uh you that we bring on young women with no education to to bait on things they know

Brian Atlasnothing about yeah like only fans girls and stuff yeah well so very small percentage so let me um let me hold on hold on hold on so like to address the multiple false

Brian Atlasclaims here when you say young woman give me an age like early 20s that's a okay I'm 37 so I would call that like young so what do you think is like the appropriate age where you're allowed to have like a conversation with somebody

Jen Stoneoh you can have a conversation any age I'm just saying if you mostly get people who are not educated and like get their views off of Tik Tok then you're not going to get a realistic hang I just

Andrew Wilsonwant to point something out yeah how old are you 23 and what your education level bachelor's anything else no I'm talking about social media influence I don't know I don't get it no wait I really

Andrew Wilsondon't get it 23 years old you're bachelor's degree I have no bachelor's degree hang on I don't have any bachelor's degree I'm not talking about

Jen Stonelike going to college I'm talking about just real world experience yeah so these people vote yeah maybe I don't agree I I

Jen Stonethink we should raise that I think we should raise the age of alcohol 25 25 so look I'll just address the multiple false claims you said that we bring on their opinions okay you said that we bring on

Brian Atlasyoung women with no education I'll just explore the young woman part that so we keep statistics on our guests the average age of the guests on our show are 26 cool that's good I I just mean

Andrew Wilsoneducation on we're not just bringing in what's the oldest oh older than me we've had on women in their 40s 50s and 60s are you talking about me are like consistently average usually there's panels with most panels are pretty mixed

Andrew Wilsonwhere you have an older and younger demographic so I'm just curious even right now even right now we do so I'm closer in age to you want y to take what I say and use it like I

Jen Stonemean what I do mean is that people in a younger generation are influenced by social media and they don't really have that much real life experience and that

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