ADDRESSING DRAMA! Brian CONFRONTS Hater Girl Who Called The Podcast DUMB?! | Dating Talk #191

Date: 2024-08-28

Duration: 6h 54m

Guests

Brian Atlas

LLexi (Escort)>

PPayton (pay_irl)>

MMadison (SBCC)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00(audience)

SPEAKER_05Lexie(guest)

SPEAKER_06Payton(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Riley(guest)

SPEAKER_10Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_11Ava(guest)

SPEAKER_13Fern(guest)

Key Moments

OtherFern reveals her ex-boyfriend had a sexual encounter with her male best friend.

“Fern explains her on-off boyfriend (100+ breakups) turned out to be on the DL. Someone told her after their final breakup. She reconciled with the best friend.”

OtherRiley openly says she would go on a date with Lexi over the Chilean soldier guest (a man) sitting at the table.

“Brian asks Riley if she would go on a date with the Chilean soldier (a male guest). Riley says no — and she would go on a date with Lexi instead. "Brutal mogged" reaction.”

OtherPayton physically intervened when her boyfriend was held at gunpoint.

“Payton describes being with her marijuana-dealing boyfriend when an acquaintance pulled a gun. She grabbed a bottle and smashed it over the attacker's head. Police report followed.”

OtherAva and friends sold their bikini bottoms to a man at a nude beach for $100 each.

“Ava describes how an older man at a nude beach offered to buy their panties for $100; they negotiated up, went to his car, and sold them. Describes preparing them for sniffing.”

ControversyBrian and Lexie argue about whether she can claim to want traditional treatment while doing sex work.

“Brian points out that Lexie does OnlyFans and escorting, so it's inconsistent to want traditional chivalrous treatment. Lexie says she wouldn't want her boyfriend doing those things anyway so it doesn't apply. Extended back-and-forth.”

OtherRiley's crack cocaine admission — viewer's "ex-boyfriend" donation claims she smoked crack with him.

“A viewer donates claiming to be Riley's ex and says she smoked crack with him. Riley denies it was recent. Admits to smoking crack twice in her life total.”

OtherMan vs bear debate: all four panelists prefer the bear, leading to discussion about male danger.

“Brian poses the would-you-rather with a random man or random bear in the forest. All women except Payton (contextual) choose bear. Discussion of what percentage of men are dangerous.”

OtherSelf-rating round: guests rate themselves 1-10 (no 7 allowed) and rate Brian.

“Ava 6.5, Riley 8, Fern face 8/total 5, Madison 5 (declines to rate Brian). Payton rates Brian 7.2. Fern and Riley rate Brian 4.5. Ava rates Brian 6. Chat says girls over-ranked themselves.”

OtherBrian addresses Jake Shields Twitter drama — responds to claim podcast divides sexes and Daily Wire buying the show.

“Brian reads his tweet response to Jake Shields, pointing out Jake appeared on similar format shows himself. Denies Daily Wire acquisition. Mentions Cernovich also stirred drama. Guests react. Old scammer drama update deferred.”

Topics Discussed

Show intro and guest introductions

Brian opens show. Guests introduce name, age, location, occupation. Pre-show no-shows mentioned. Kiki (plush cat) introduced.

Relationship status round

Riley: 6-month situationship, sees guy 3-4x/week, not exclusive, deleted Tinder. Ava: single a few months, ended relationship under 1 year ago, bisexual. Lexie: single ~3 years, celibate. Fern: single ~1 year, 8-month situationship cooling down. Payton: single 7 years, celibate 4 years. Madison: boyfriend (works for podcast).

STI testing and sexual health practices

Lexi advocates STI testing before every partner, dental dams, and "dick checks". Discussion of risks of oral sex and STIs. Riley shares vape with Lexi; Brian objects due to Lexie's sex work.

Who should pay on the first date

Ava and Fern: go 50/50 or expect man to pay if he explicitly invited. Riley: depends on invitation. Payton/Lexie: women should pay. Brian argues paying is the optimal chess move but questions whether modern women deserve chivalry. Payton offered to pay on recent dates, wonders if that was wrong.

Prostitution legalization debate

Should prostitution be legalized? Payton: should be illegal, including for buyers; would reduce harm to society including porn. Others: legalization makes it safer. Brian: doesn't think prostitution is good but uncertain on policy position.

Relationship transparency and body count

Should Brian disclose he never wants to marry? Should women disclose body count? Lexi's OnlyFans / sex work vs claiming to be traditional. Brian argues you can't claim chivalrous treatment if you're not a traditional woman.

Body count discussion

Is caring about body count immature or insecure? Riley: hypocritical if man has high count but demands low count from women. Fern and Lexie: preference, not immature. Lexie declines to state her number on this episode.

Man vs bear debate

Would you rather encounter a random man or random bear in the forest? Ava, Riley, Lexie, Fern: bear. Payton: man (contextual). Discussion of what percentage of men would victimize a woman. Estimates range: Lexie 50%, Riley 10%, Fern ~10-15%, Payton ~1-2%.

Feminism and gender equality

Are guests feminists? Definition debate. Discussion of legal equality vs social treatment differences. Women being tipped more than men. Male bias against male elementary school teachers. Military draft and selective service: should women register?

Racism and racial discrimination debate

Can you be racist towards white people? Riley argues racism requires power differential (prejudice+power definition). Brian pushes back with standard definition. Extended back-and-forth.

Self-ratings (1-10 scale, no 7)

Viewer "Stiffler" asks guests to rate looks 1-10 (can't pick 7). Ava: 6.5. Riley: 8. Fern: face 8 / total 5. Madison: 5. Payton: 6.5. Guests rate Brian: Payton 7.2, Fern 4.5, Riley 4.5, Ava 6. Madison declines (has a boyfriend). Chat calls girls over-ranked.

Pay gap and women in workforce

Brian argues doubling the labor pool by pushing women into workforce lowered wages and caused cost of living crisis. Mating pressure from women (providers) explains wage motivation gap. Guests push back with general disagreement but limited counterarguments.

Bowing to your partner discussion

React to video of woman bowing to partner. Would guests bow for a boyfriend? Madison: yes. Payton: yes if good provider. Others: no. Brian contrasts willingness to have sex with strangers but not perform traditional acts of submission.

Twitter drama: Jake Shields

Jake Shields (MMA fighter) tweeted that Whatever podcast is designed to divide sexes and make women look dumb. Claimed Daily Wire is trying to buy the show. Brian reads his full response tweet pointing out Jake appeared on same format shows, denies Daily Wire acquisition talks. Also mentions Cernovich drama. Old drama (scammer update) deferred to another episode.

Transcript

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Brian Atlassanctification Christ is King hallelujah thank you thank you thank

Brian Atlasyou what what were we talking about what are you talking about beer bear bear we should talk more about feminism

Brian Atlasand how it's terrible okay what do you want to what do you want to tell me I don't have anything to tell you I thought you were an anti-feminist why would you think I'm an

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Paytonof palad was that dark that was over to my channel that was dark women like the bad boy just be the Joker and then it'll attract women I guess you you it's is it bad to be

Rileyanti-feminist in my world yeah and people I surround myself with yeah yeah why is that cuz I am a feminist and that would be going against what I stand for what do you stand for feminism which stands for what we've already gone

Madisonthrough this I thought you said your beliefs don't Define who you are as a person oh my God yeah you wouldn't dat an anti-feminist stands for I mean

RileyI found it again same thing yeah it's not your entire personality so if you just cuz a lot of Madison's entire personality a lot of men will claim that they're not a feminist just because

Rileythey're afraid to say that they're a feminist because of bias around the word but they'll still be for equality so okay just depends on the kind of person wait but so you you think you have to be

Brian Atlasa feminist to be for equality no so then why be a feminist it's just a term to describe yourself so then you're not a feminist wrong you are

Rileya feminist yep but you can be for equality but not be a feminist yeah you could just not go by the label you could be gay and say that you're straight doesn't change anything actually no you

Brian Atlascan't do that in a world you could do that I get what you're saying you can say it but does it make it true I think that's what she's saying though yeah is that yeah

Rileyyeah she's saying you can say it but it's uh not true you can be a feminist and not say that you're a feminist you're still a feminist and you can have sex with boys and say that you are not

Rileygay and still be gay you know like I'm saying it's the label that's what I'm saying wait hold on you can have sex

Rileywith men but not be gay not lab you can say that you're not gay you can label yourself as but you're still gay I guess I'm saying you not label

Rileyyourself as something but still be it wait so but so what's wrong with being an anti-feminist in the world in general nothing you can be whatever you want in

Rileymy world of people I surround myself with I wouldn't want to just have people in my life that I argue with every day what what would you argue about with an anti-feminist um probably about feminism

Brian Atlas[Music] F okay okay so then uh what so okay here's my view of feminism right and I'll I'll give you my charitable definition and I'll give you the actual

Brian Atlaswhat I actually think it is the charitable definition is feminism is a woman's advocacy movement nothing wrong with women's advocacy what is wrong with it though is trying to paint it as an

Brian Atlasequality movement if it is a woman's advocacy movement because advocating for women does not mean you advocate for equality because equality stand to reason you would fight for equality even

Rileywhen it goes against advocacy for women right okay so so my question for you is would you say that you're for

Brian Atlas[Music] equality I am for equality so then I would consider you a feminist no no no you don't have to label yourself

Brian Atlasas a don't misidentify how I identify no I'm saying that's use my preferred adjectives prover what what would it be

Brian Atlasprovers wait chat what would it be what preferred definition preferred what uh what what identity label no preferred adjective is it an adjective or is it a

Brian Atlasis it a noun please use my preferred it's literally just a position position no there's a there's a English word for

Brian Atlasit English word help us out here okay can we get back on track yeah let's get back on track here so uh what did you say again sorry okay so this is my point

Rileyyou don't have to label yourself a feminist because of what you think of as a feminist is whatever you think that your bias around the word and the term but what I think as a feminist and what

Rileythe definition will probably say is somebody who strives for equality between men and women therefore you technically are a feminist I I reject your definition you

Rileyjust got feminized but technically what's being a feminist wanting equality between men and women and I just asked you if you want equality between men and said yes yeah but I I reject I reject

Brian Atlasthat feminism okay you don't have to identify as it so feminis I mean there's different there's there's different definitions uh my def my most charitable definition is it's a woman's advocacy

Brian Atlasmovement right now what it really really is

Brian Atlasis a uh a man-hating ideology that's my actual view of feminism it's a man-hating ideology that

Brian Atlasactually believes in Female Supremacy awesome that's not the actual definition so well how however they want or think it's described or defined in

Avapractice that's what I'm interested in well they if we don't have a definition like standard definitions we then we have nothing cuz that's your

Brian Atlasdefinition well so that's your claim so okay that's your opinion but if feminism was about equality why don't feminists fight for equality feminists do fight for equality

Brian Atlasno they don't okay what are they what are they equalizing the draft would be equality most women don't want to get drafted it would come to the detriment of women if they were subject to forced

Brian Atlasmilitary conscription AKA feminists do not fight for it because it comes to the at the detriment of women the same way it comes at the detriment of

Avamen I don't even consider myself the feminist but I feel like they they the feminists would be like the typical feminists would be like yeah women should get drafted they don't fight for

Brian Atlasit in my experience they they're not fighting for it it's not a talking point for feminists like we need to push to equalize the draft it's not a super pertinent issue right it's super

Brian Atlaspertinent issue are we are we about to draft people we're closer to war than at any point in the past 30 years is it

Avaactually is it still in the Constitution that or where where does it say that what is that women can't be this only men that are

Brian Atlasdrafted this I don't know there's maybe a selective service act I don't know the specific legislation but do you doubt that that's the case or you just don't

Brian Atlasno no I um yeah well here I'll give you an another example besides the draft so uh when it comes to this happened in Florida there was a bill that was

Brian Atlasattempting to equalize child custody between the parents so between fathers and mothers uh I believe it was the National Organization for Women which is one of the I believe largest

Brian Atlaswomen's or feminist organizations in the country and uh they actually uh they what's the specific term for it essentially they fought against

Brian Atlasequalizing child custody between fathers and mothers that's not a fight for equality that's a fight for keeping female

Brian Atlasprivilege okay and I'm not going to speak on behalf of every single person that claims to be a feminist you mean the leading feminist organization in this country that fought against

Avaequalizing uh child custody Between Women I think that should be a more pertinent things that's happening like every day with that okay well so here's

Brian Atlashere's where I think the big issue is with feminism so the patriarchy Theory do you believe in that what is the patriarchy Theory are you familiar with the patriarchy not that much okay so I

Brian Atlasmean if you take essentially any feminist course in college this is something that they're going to teach you they're going to teach you that there's a patriarchy

Brian Atlasessentially that um that uh I mean there it's it's difficult because there's so many different definitions of patriarchy uh the simplest one is just

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Brian Atlasthere's a couple different definitions I pulled them up here so uh a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it another one patriarchy is a social system in which men dominate over

Brian Atlasothers but can also refer to dominance over women specifically it can also extend to a variety of manifestations in which men have social privileges over others to cause exploitation or

Rileyoppression all right and okay how about this do you think women are oppressed do I think women are oppressed currently in today's day and age not by the patriarchy no by

Rileywhat from that definition do I think that men are ruling over women right now no okay so women are non oppressed then

Rileyinto oppressed I don't think I'd use the word oppressed no they're what I think women experience discrimination do men experience discrimination probably yeah

Brian Atlasat similar rates as women no women have a worse yes do men have more privileges than women today not much not much privileges

Rileythere's no male privilege no as compared to female privilege no I'm not saying that there's no there's definitely privileges that male have that females have like you know there's male

Rileyprivileges that females don't have and there's female privileges that men don't have okay but you said that women

Rileyuh was the word oppressed or did we not use that word I said I would say women are discriminated against women are discriminated against more so than men I think that's what it was how how so just

Rileyin general more so than men I'm not going to give a million examples but if you're going to ask me who experiences more discrimination I would say women who's

Rileymore likely to go to college no clue no idea no if I told you it was women would you believe me yeah but going to college that

Rileydoesn't have anything to do with anything that's not a privilege but you get into college because of your grades that you get in high school and then if I applied to colleges you know

Rileywhat I would get into not [ __ ] cuz I got bad grades they're not going to let me in because I'm a woman they're more likely to I don't think they are it really does depend on the grad it depends on your grades and what you have

Fernon your course your grades matter and they're not going to see um the profile that I'm a woman but I had a really shitty GPA but I'm a girl it doesn't mean you're going to like get the green

Brian Atlaslight immediately yeah no in any case women women are more likely to go to university they're more likely to graduate from University more likely to get college diploma good for women then because that has nothing to do with

Rileytheir privilege because you how is that not a privilege because you get into college due to your grades that you worked for you graduate college because you worked throughout college so are but

Brian Atlaswhat is happening in society that is either pushing men away from University or you're seeing less enrollment of men in University if they're not enrolling that's their choice if women get paid

Brian Atlasless than men it's also women's choice no you're just like so wrong like those are two completely different things oh but so whenever something is what hold

Brian Atlason hold on let me let me hold on so whenever there is uh something that disproportionately negatively impacts men it's because of men's choices but if something negatively disproportionately

Rileyimpacts women it's because of sexism patriarchy so forth no because your two examples when you go to college nobody makes you go to college you apply

Rileyto college you get into college because of your grades what you get paid is determined by your boss and your managers so you those are two completely different things you don't believe in the pay gap between men and women then

Rileywhen did I say that I'm I'm asking if you do I believe in the do you believe that there's a pay gap between men the gender pay Gap from my experience and jobs that I have had no because I've never worked in corporate or anything right but you've

Brian Atlasheard of it right I've definitely Heard It In fact Cala recently actually uh repeated this falsehood that there is a 80 I think she said 80 cents on the

Brian Atlasdollar to a man 82 cents on the dollar uh so repeated the myth but uh do you believe it exists I believe that it exists because typically if let's say

Rileyfor example the man charge of the company is sexist because not every man is sexist but let's say he is he's going to hire a woman and a man for the same job but because he is sexist he believes

SPEAKER_00that women are not as smart hold on L paladins donated $69.69 C maybe she doesn't realize that a bunch of schools just got sued and their case went all the way to the

SPEAKER_00Supreme Court because they were discriminating against Asians and whites and Men Harvard UNC y Harvard I think Yale too all the a lot of the I IV

Brian Atlasleagues significant discrimination against uh Asian students significant uh so what's the Discrimination I have not heard about that that essentially Asian students had

Brian Atlasto score way higher on like SATs and these sorts of uh uh testing uh tests in order to uh get accepted as compared to other racial groups because there were

Brian Atlastoo many Asians yeah so they were essentially discriminating against Asians but so back to the conversation you were saying I got I got lost I can't remember

Rileywhat I was saying every time one of those I like forget what I was talking about we were talking about wage the gender wage Gap you're saying if if the boss is sexist okay so in the situation

Rileythat the boss is sexist and he has a mindset that women are not as smart as men because a lot of sexist men do have that mindset then he's going to think

Rileywell she doesn't deserve the equal pay because he is more qualified so he's going to pay her less that's in a world where he is sexist not all bosses are sexist that doesn't happen everywhere

Brian Atlasbut does that happen yes couldn't I just say the same thing most HR departments which handle hiring are made up of

Brian Atlaswomen so so women are women can be sexist too in those scenarios also if it was the case that there actually was a gender pay Gap

Brian Atlaspeople are in the business people are in business to make money you could just hire your entire Workforce could be women you could save 20 25% on labor costs you can outcompete your

Brian Atlascompetitors lower your prices get more market share simply by hiring just women but it's just not the case it's totally been debunked there is no gender pay Gap so you don't think that the scenario

Brian Atlasthat I just described you don't think that's ever happened oh yeah there sexist men sure absolutely they're sexist men they're sexist women uh think that maybe a man paid a woman less he

Rileyemploys two people same role and you don't think that if he's sexist that maybe he pays her less Because he believes she deserves less cuz she doesn't have as much qualifications just cuz she's a woman well does she actually

Rileyhave less qualifications no same qualifications but a lot of men if the woman can prove it it she could bring a lawsuit against him yeah she could she could but you so you're telling you don't think that that has ever happened

Rileyand that the pay Gap exist sure it's totally happened okay so there you go there's the pay Gap because of because of no because of sex there's a pay Gap you just agreed with me right but then

Brian Atlashere's hold on here's the rebuttal there can be W there are women who are also sexist and who have a preference for hiring other women and they exclude men

Rileyfrom their own hiring practices so it just equal out okay but your argument is do women get paid less and that's what we're talking about I'm addressing your

Rileyargument perfectly I can say the same thing about women but that's not what the argument's about it hold on yes it's totally relevant Argent totally relev do women get paid less nobody's talking

Rileyabout men getting paid less when you bring up the wage Gap when you bring up the wage Gap make your okay no when you bring up the wage Gap what do you think oh the argument is women are getting

Brian Atlasless money but you're saying well because there are some sexist men that that is evidence of the wage Gap but then I could just say well let's assume that there's an equal amount of

Rileysexist women so it would just cancel the sexism would just cancel out okay but that assumption is also kind of inaccurate because why is it inaccurate women are way more sexist women are more sexist

Avathan men wait can I ask you a question like what is an example of a man being sexist that you could give what is an examp example of a man

Brian Atlasbeing uh related to the payap thing just anything what's an example uh of a man being

Brian Atlassexist [Music] H how is it I'm just I'm not sure how it's really pertinent to the conversation at hand I'm sure I could give you an example but I'm not sure

Avait's really going to move I think like a definition or like just an example would help in the context of understanding an example okay a man just

Brian Atlasoutright refused to hire women I suppose that would be sexist okay because they're women okay I suppose that would be sexist yeah okay but it would also be

Paytonsexist if women refused to hire men so yeah definitely yeah I can I say a personal experience that I've had that

Paytonrelates to this um so I was when I was 16 years old I was hired as a general manager of a dominoes and by a woman and I was

Paytonworking there and she refused to pay me as much as the general manager she had before that and then they moved a man in

Paytonand this is going to get kind of iffy but I was 16 years old like I said and the man told me he was going to take my

Paytonjob J unless I I sent him nude photographs and also that woman that hired me had his back and said that I

Paytonwould be fired if I didn't agree to whatever he said I hope you Su I didn't know I didn't I was too young I didn't know to tell anyone about that but they were both in it together they were both

Paytonsexist against women that's [ __ ] I know that goes a little bit against of what saying but at the same time they were both being sexist and also not paying me enough

Paytonthey were paying me $10 an hour to be the general manager compared to the man that was going to be the general manager and did you have the same qualifications as that man yes I was younger but I

Brian Atlasstill had the same qualifications so that sounds like a pay Gap to me yeah one anecdotal example does not prove that there's a widespread pay one example in this room of people okay

Brian Atlaswomen on the only fans make more than men that's women models who do the exact same job make more than men and that again inaccurate because your argument

Rileyno because your argument is the same as when we brought up basketball there's more people subscribing to these women because more men watch only fans women don't subscribe to only fans that's the

Rileyreason they're making more only fans you set your own price so just because you get more is on only fans does it make it unfair that nobody's subscribing to your only

Paytonfans yeah we also think about Caitlyn Clark in women's basketball do you know how many people tuned in to watch Caitlyn Clark more than the Celtics

Paytonwhich usually have more viewers but because Caitlyn Clark has gotten so big she she has been making more than the Celtics do even though they have more viewers which is to the point that you said earlier

Paytonwas it just from basketball or is it like just from basketball are you sure yes and that again proved my point because I think I'm agreeing with you because it's it's does come to sexism I

Paytondon't think there's a a wage Gap I think it's more whoever is being sexist in that instance is what depends on however much that person is going to be making

Brian Atlasyeah and more commonly there's going to be a lower wage for the woman because it's debunked it's been debunked economists have debunked this actually a

Brian Atlaswoman recently won I believe it was a Nobel Prize on this in economics on this a woman debunked the wage Gap it comes down to women's

Brian Atlaschoices is it like it has you said earlier it has to do with male choices right when it comes to going to college same thing applies here wrong you want

Brian Atlasto pull up pay scale you can pull up the pay scale thing so that's not it it's the go down it's like the two circles why

Brian Atlashigher okay so the uncontrolled gender pay Gap this opportunity pay Gap measures median salary for all men and all women the controlled gender pay Gap this measures median salary for men and

Brian Atlaswomen with the same job and qualifications that one is 99 cent it's one cent

Rileyoff okay so my point is in a world where the manager is sexist or whatever more commonly a woman will be paid less than a man is going to choose between the two

Rileyand pay the man less that's sexism that's a wage Gap right but that can equally apply to sexist women that's why I was agreeing with

PaytonBrian so while I I will grant that there are sexist men there are also sexist women and that's what the page Gap depends on there can be a a a wage Gap

Rileybecause of sexism not because they're a woman or a man yeah but also to your story the person who was giving you less pay was a woman so not depending on whether it's a man or a woman in charge

Rileyit's depending on whether it's a sexist person in charge that's what I mean exactly so what you're saying is Well what if it's different if a woman's in charge it's not it's different if the person is sexist and that's it whether

Rileythey're a woman or a man because she got paid less by a woman who was sexist towards women do you agree with that Brian I'm

Brian Atlasnot discounting that there are sexist people that's not the argument here the argument is whether there's a wage Gap that exists and if it's due to sexism it's not it's due to sexism

Paytonthere's no actual wage Gap is what I'm saying I think any sexist people exist yes yes and that's why there ever is a wage Gap not because there's a wage Gap

Paytongenerally for every between men and women I think it's if they are in a position and then there's someone above them that is sexist and that's why there would be some type of different in wage

Paytonnot because there's a wage gap between men and women it's just whoever your boss is that's what your your pay depends on look the reality is it comes

Brian Atlasdown to choices men choose to work more hours they're more likely to take on hazardous jobs that pay more they're more likely to relocate to bump [ __ ] nowhere that pays more to work they're

Brian Atlasmore likely to work overtime they're more likely to work a night shift women are much more likely to prioritize work life balance flexibility fulfilling

Brian Atlaslives over men will go work on a [ __ ] oil Derek in the middle of the ocean with 30 foot waves crashing up against this [ __ ] and not seeing anybody for

Brian Atlasdays weeks or months at a time men are willing to go do those kind of jobs they also tend to gravitate more towards certain stem fields that pay

Brian Atlasmore women will prioritize certain jobs and have interest in certain jobs that tend to earn less money okay so that has nothing to do with the wage Gap though what we're

Rileytalking about is two people no because you're wrong you're not you're inaccurate right now there's two people how am I wrong because we're talking about two people in the same position making a different wage you're talking

Brian Atlasabout two separate jobs you're saying well men will do this instead no [ __ ] if you do a harder job you get paid more money that's uncontrolled we already pulled it up from pay scale so do you

Brian Atlasagree that the wage Gap then that you're talking about the controlled wage Gap you're going to see that it's 1 cent off I'm not saying that in general in the

Rileywhole world that there's a wage Gap I'm just saying that in the world there is a sexist manager they're most likely going to be sexist towards the woman because

Brian Atlaswhoa I reject your premise re I reject hold on I I reject you just okay I'm not going to allow you just say they're more likely going to be sexist towards women because actually

Brian Atlasthey've done studies on this so women have a very strong ingroup bias for other women and then men have a slight outgroup bias for women so this idea

Brian Atlasthat like I actually think this idea that men hate women no actually men have an outgroup bias when I say bias it's a positive bias towards women slight but

Brian Atlasthey don't have an ingroup bias towards men the same way that women have a massive ingroup bias for other women and we can pull up we can even find the study if you doubt that

Rileybut you can pull it up I don't doubt that but well now you made me lose my train of thought I forgot what I was talking about oh my goodness okay um I had a point and then you you went on a

Brian Atlasrant and now I'm lost also Asian women make more than white men just thought I'd throw that out there okay so is that both racism and sexist towards them yes

Brian Atlasyes that is is it I don't know I don't know uh anyways we'll move off of the wage Gap in any case but I would say there are far more important

Paytonyou is she she says it's a W for her no I said that was for you that's the same thing as saying it's a W for you prob she didn't say that set it with my f cuz you did not eat I'm

Brian Atlasactually more interested in much more important like for example you know there's um men are more likely to work dangerous

Brian Atlasjob dangerous job Gap there's the dangerous job Gap die on the job Gap electr electrocuted to death Gap crushed

Brian Atlasto death Gap fall to their death Gap injured on the job Gap work in [ __ ]

Rileyundesirable disgusting Dirty Jobs Gap working bum [ __ ] nowhere Gap like men choose that these are all jobs that you choose to work just like women

SPEAKER_00choose to work values moral boundaries and it benefited societal cohesion until the 1920s that's when feminism took over it values moral permissiveness which has

Brian Atlasbeen to the detriment of societal cohesion that's great thank you good good newes also men are more likely to work

Brian Atlasjobs that prop up the entire infrastructure of society so you can all live your Pampered cushy lives and your air conditioned office jobs there is that Gap too no but the thing is that's

Rileya gap we should talk about that Gap no but these are choices right this is why you're no you're inacurate right now because you're comparing you're comparing jobs that men choose to do and

Rileyyou're comparing wages that we are forced to accept what you not forced we don't choose what we make at a job negotiate but I choose my

Rileyjob but do you think more women try to choose to do those jobs that men do I don't think a lot of women choose to do those jobs but oh but men choose yeah

Rileyyou sign up for your job what are you talking about but women don't choose no women choose their jobs they don't choose what pay they accept neither do men or do they no they don't so then what's the point point of bringing up

Rileythis argument of women don't choose their salaries neither do men the point is the wage Gap that you are bringing up and I'm saying that in a

Rileyworld where there is there is no wage Gap though there's no wage Gap I said in a world that the manager is sexist not just in general in every and in a world where there's a female sexist manager

Brian Atlasshe's also discriminating against men and do you think that's common yes women make up the majority of HR departments they H they handle hiring and you think men are

Brian Atlasdiscriminated against yes because they're not hiring have you heard of diversity equity and inclusion and affirmative action do these discriminate

Brian Atlasagainst women or against men diversity Dei diversity equ it's diversity equality and inclusion and

Brian Atlasthen affirmative action does affirmative action benefit men or does it benefit sounds like it's trying to benefit everybody no you just said equality it's

Paytonleaning more towards women it's it's feeding into trying to make everything equal so they're trying to push more women and

SPEAKER_00diversity GMD gy donated $69 I employ 80 mostly women men there before 5 a.m. women show up around 7 to

SPEAKER_008 leave by 4: will not stay late men don't leave until everything is finished which are more valuable to my

Rileycompany you want to answer the uh you want to answer the question that's those women I know what I do at my job and I stay until everything is finished sure so that's

Brian Atlasthose women but if there were stats to show for example that men are more likely to work overtime they're more willing to work longer hours

Brian Atlasask for raises so this is coming back to generalizing and you're saying it's wrong no there's statistics it's not hold on it's not generalizing if if there's literally statistics from like

Brian Atlasthe Bureau of Labor Statistics or whatever other you know organization releases these kind of Statistics if it actually shows that men work more hours than women and they work longer hours

Brian Atlasthan women and then they work more overtime and they work more over uh Hazard pay and they they're more likely to do uh night shift graveyard shift which tends to be paid more then how can

Rileyyou not come to the conclusion that men are going to be paid more under these circumstances because that's generalizing you are generalizing if you no it is generalizing because

Rileystatistically yeah that's higher but earlier when I was talking about statistics you're talking about oh well that's generalizing that's discrimination so I'm saying the same did I say hours ago when we were talking about something else so I'm talking

Rileyabout generalizing you can't say that statistically because men do this more often that every man will do that and you can't say statistically that because men like women will do it less often that not a single woman is going to work

Rileythe graveyard shift or work the over women can work I'm not saying that women can't or don't do that they're less likely to but so when if you're hiring two people and you see same qualifications you're going to hire the

Brian Atlasman because of the statistics you don't think I think that's discriminatory I did not say that that's your argument that's not my argument at all I'm saying why at the end of the day it could be

Brian Atlasthe case there's many factors that that uh relate to the uncontrolled gender pay Gap and those are a few of

Brian Atlasthem also I actually not sure if there would actually be anything wrong if knowing these things about how men and women tend to work differently what would actually be wrong with that cuz

Brian Atlasthat's generalizing and we've come to the conclusion that generalizing is wrong let me ask you a question you run a factory and in this Factory you need

Brian Atlasto carry 100 pound from point A to point B throughout an entire 8 Hour workshift you know that men are going to be able to do that better it's going to save you money if you hire men maybe you pay the

Brian Atlasmen a bit more but they're going to be able to do the job better they're less likely to get injured if they do it who do you hire probably the man okay you are sexist how

Rileydare you there are there are strong independent boss [ __ ] so that's what I'm about to say so what if a woman comes up and she's in the same interview interviewing for that job and she says that she can do all of that are you just

Rileygoing to not believe her cuz she's a woman if she can do it then [ __ ] yeah hire her her sure so what's the argument what's the argument from you we are

Brian Atlasagreeing right now you are arguing for nothing we are literally in agreement oh jeez okay how about this last thing uh I

Brian Atlasactually think part of this if there even is a pay Gap it's women's

Rileyfault here's why here's why okay they're done here's why check this out so let's say 50 don't make me do all the talking

Brian Atlasright now yeah let's hear from your friends okay what percentage of women have her expectation that men should pay for first aides you think it's

Brian Atlas50% I don't [ __ ] know I don't know well let's do you think like 50% of women are conservative women no no 40% probably okay um I don't know

Brian Atlasprobably 30 40 let's say it's 40% of wom depends on the area in California I would say it's a pretty low let's say 40% well let's the whole us let's say it's 40% of women are conservative of

Brian Atlascourse we have to grant that there's plenty of liberal women that still want men to be traditional and pay for first aid right not only that they not only do these women want men to pay for first

Brian AtlasAIDS they want men to be providers they're attracted to men who are successful and ambitious and all the these things so women's own sexual preferences and dating desires actually

Brian Atlasdictate that men will have more motivation to achieve to become successful because women place a mating pressure on men that men don't place on women and so on this basis alone I think

Brian Atlasit would explain a way as supposed again I reject that there is a pay Gap it explains away the pay Gap because of women if it even exists because women

Brian Atlasplace a profound and significant mating pressure on men to be providers and to pay for First Dates men are very motivated while both women and men are

Brian Atlasmotivated by their romantic prospects and if men can't get romance they can't get a partner they can't date because they're not financially attractive to a

Brian Atlaswoman they can't pay for a first date they're going to be zeroed out in the dating Marketplace men don't zero out women because women don't pay for dates never

Brian Atlashappens so it's women's fault because of the mating pressure women place on men for this supposed pay gap which doesn't even exist but just for the sake of argument it's women's fault or is it

Brian Atlasjust logical Checkmate so once again generalizing not all women are like that oh hold on doesn't even matter even if it's a minority of women even if it's 40% of

Brian Atlaswomen demands that men pay for first dates that is such a significant amount of women as to make it a I mean 40% right make it would create a massive

Brian Atlaspressure on men to fall into the provider role because if they don't they can't attract a woman if they don't pay for a first date they're not going to get a second date if they don't pay for dates they're not going to get laid well according to you the payap doesn't exist

SPEAKER_00so why are you arguing against it well it doesn't exist you're trying to make an argument against it donated $69 brixon been doing this for over 40

SPEAKER_00years hundreds of women employed only one women ever worked as long and hard as the men she dates my older brother now because he values her work

Avaethic thank you so men are attracted to work appreciate it appreciate it yeah Jim it smells so good right now

Brian Atlaswho knows what that is oh yeah we'll go to Twitch guys go to twitch.tv/ drop us a follow follow drop us a prime sub drop us a follow in the prime sub also discord.gg whatever drop us a join join

Brian Atlasthe Discord discord.gg whatever thank you guys appreciate it what other reacts do we have Nick do we have any other reacts do we have the other reacts what the heck was that do we have other

Madisonreacts you been here before I you should know I don't know I usually ask right uh Maddie can you read it my girlfriend told me she used to get

Madisongang banged before we met I knew she was a college student and I know how College works but I thought she was different we went out to drink with her friends and they started talking about all the things they did there's a weird feeling in my stomach I never asked her about

Madisonher body count or anything I can't really see see her the same way IDK if I want to break up you don't know if you want to break up after you heard she got gangbanged girl that's harsh what if

Rileyshe's like a like reformed born again Christian she was gangbang there's no going back from that okay so that's the same saying that you were bisexual and

Rileythere's no going back from that you were formed from that yeah same exactly if a guy has a problem with that then he shouldn't be with me yeah so if they have a problem with that then they shouldn't be with her exactly I totally

Paytonagree if she's not okay with it he should break up with her I totally exactly you're right you're confirming you're confirming what I just said boys TTS is 30 we're going into the roast

Brian Atlassection so get your ttss in then we'll uh wrap up the show here hopefully pretty soon uh guys get your get your I can't believe the bird is stilling I know I no I told you it

Paytonwas getting Wicked weak and then I tried to grab it and now it's woken back up cuz Brian told me to stop trying to get the you did try and you couldn't I know I tried for a couple

Brian Atlasminutes guys get your ttss in if you want we have boom boom boom also big

Brian Atlaslaia matter but also $30 TTS if you want to get it in uh any uh anyone from the panel any disagreements you have with with anything I've said or like from

Brian Atlasprevious shows or you have some oh I mean just I was saying yeah what's that Nick reacts we have more reacts what you got for me what you

Madisongot oh this looking for a guy with the provider provider mindset no I'm not joking I know what relationship style suits me willing to spend money and take me out

Madisonas a must I'm not a gold digger I provide for my man no problems I know how to be an amazing partner and I want the same a feminist but traditionally feminine pre prefer to date men with good paying jobs cuz I need stability

Madisonalso I'm pretty hot and deserve a good man at this point in my existence feminist located in Utah 57 have kids aist blasted in tats H well

Brian Atlasactually I don't know if she has that many tses have t whatever and it looks like a hip uh looking for a guy with a provider mindset she's not joking but she's a

Brian Atlasfeminist but she wants a guy to be a provider but she's a feminist but she's hot but she doesn't believe she believes in equality but also the guy should be a provider very

Brian Atlas[Music] confusing is that it is there another one redefining

Brian AtlasTrad what's that the blond next one actually a tube top oh wait is that

SPEAKER_00one we'll do the drama we'll do the drama hey Brian you playing War within also when are you bringing asong gold on the panel can you ask the panel if any

Brian Atlasof them game also ask the loot Council question tongue sure I can do that uh asmin gold I'd be down to have him on the show yeah I don't think he'll do it though I don't think he leaves

SPEAKER_00Texas I'm not playing any thundor inore 4K donated $70 just saying under child labor laws miners are required to work Less hours

SPEAKER_00equals less pay doesn't matter the gender if you worked more than 18 hours at ages below 18 it is illegal

Paytonplus he wants to see the bow video how are you 4 hours a week I was working 16 hour backtack shifts and it was completely illegal it was child labor AB check thank for the 50 but I still did

Brian Atlasit to make my money we'll do the B video then we'll do the drama Intel wild good to see you in the chat man you can pull that one up too uh

Brian Atlasafter I guess uh okay this is what I want in a girl DT BT W go ahead boom huge bow did you see that

SPEAKER_00look at that yes storm blessed donated $30 you can Google Brian look up on her arms I think she is pretty close to look her up Nick let's see what she let's see what we're working she worth committing

Madisonwar crimes worth committing war crimes damn uh no sorry do young I think she do young I

Brian Atlasguess yeah I feel like she I think she's already pretty young sheer she looks like seven or eight I give her baby

Brian Atlasdoll chick was better yeah yeah Adrian Lima yeah I I think this girl is gorgeous not bad yeah she's attractive

Madisonbut uh only from certain angles an Montana okay some of these photos [Music] she oh the one where she's like staring

Brian Atlasvalid that's valid word wait what were we oh the bow let's see the bow one more time yeah play it one more

Brian Atlastime boom boom huge battle Dam do it the same so what do you what do you guys think uh would you be willing to bow for

SPEAKER_00a guy for for your boyfriend Council of men donated $30 brixon the High Council of men were called in for an e mergency session to review your reaction when the

SPEAKER_00bird and dragon fly entered the studio your man card has been temporarily suspended my reaction was super mas4

SPEAKER_00donated $30 Blondie is bombastic BL kite using a bunch of ventriloquism to argue non-existent points honey if women are

SPEAKER_00paid less they are not you are perfect reason as to why they should be hi from UK say Hi l Paladin $30 blaming as mongold for not leaving

SPEAKER_00Texas is unfair I haven't ever seen a whatever podcast outside of California take this sheet on the road too much time in Carly for your unfair 9 super

Brian Atlasmodel rating wait what what was the last part super what about the supermodel rating damn all Paladin's coming for me dude thank you man appreciate appreciate all

Brian Atlasyou guys sending in the ttss wait what were we we were the Bow bow your boyfriend he asks you to Bow would you do it if he's a provider he's

Lexiea good man yeah no and that's why that's why what go ahead Lexi I do whatever my man asked me to do you're so far away from the I

Lexiedo whatever my man asked me to do okay that's cool thank you you asked okay no would not bow yes Maddie

Brian Atlasyes yeah sure that's cool why wouldn't you bow for your man why would I bow for my

SPEAKER_00man before you a whole thing what thr meia donated $30 soing drama is the KN with Spug boys also a four with pay

SPEAKER_00world viw is more attractive than an eight with number two's world view you say right thanks

Brian Atlasdo you want kids one day oh wait I already asked she said she doesn't know you want to get married I don't know you don't know

Brian Atlasuh what's weird to me I'm not speaking specifically about you but so a girl

SPEAKER_00within 30 minut minutes of meeting a guy will damn L paladins donated $30 than you Paladin legit called a supermodel

Brian Atlasalmost approaching a nine come on bro you think you have it bad come to Cleveland for a week we fight to the death over Ohio man Ohio it's tough out

Brian Atlasthere in Ohio [ __ ] I'll give you that look you know um a lot of beautiful women in Santa Barbara you know what I mean don't get me wrong Adriana Lima she's a very beautiful woman but uh you

Brian Atlasknow what I mean paladins have you seen a woman prettier than her in Santa

Brian AtlasI have in person yeah bro I have with no work done no work work makes them uglier that [ __ ] makes them uglier if

Brian Atlasthey have work done I know that's the joke I was making wait what was I saying about the bow oh yeah no girl will like meet a guy and within 30 minutes of him of meeting him at some party be like

Avaessing the D but she won't do a bow like she'll suck his dick total stranger that sounds like a 304 to me why would she why would she bow for a man's 304

Avawait going around the table have you ever had a one night stand yes I have yeah yes yes yes yes no

Brian Atlasyes i' I had a I had a one night stand once we've all had those moment we we've all been there we've all learned lived and learned but question how quickly

SPEAKER_00after GMD donated $30 brixon you are not a good judge search her in the bond no

SPEAKER_00time to die movie again war crimes you would need a binding resolution against

SPEAKER_00me we love you Jim [ __ ] bro get out of here baby uh Alpha Smasher donated $30 for the panel same question but in Reverse

Lexiewould you want your man about to you if yes how is it different anybody want their man to Bow no no weird what about I could not care

SPEAKER_00my yeah you say say that louder girl Paladin donated $30 if I can get her to I can get her to bow for me the reason your panelists

SPEAKER_00don't want to bow for you is because they don't think you are attractive it's that simple that's not true if I can get her that's wait what was I oh right so have you had

Brian Atlasa one night stand uh so from the point you met to the point y'all had carnal knowledge how much time passed about

Avafive months oh that's not really a one night well it's like we like we knew like we knew each other I feel like night stand

Brian Atlasis when you meet somebody you meet them and then that same night you have the carnal knowledge what if that's not I don't think I have done that what that what if that's not the type include this can even include like you did do that

Brian Atlasbut then you kept seeing them like that still counts for the question that does sense what about what about you like from meeting

Brian Atlasto doing the deed probably like six hours in total what that's a bit long come on be honest you never been at a party and then like

Rileyno Boom Boom Boom 1 hour 35 minutes later to actually talk to me CU I'm entertaining to talk to so I have conversation with them before I [ __ ] them okay all right yeah I don't think

Brian AtlasI've done that I don't think I've done that Lexi I promise but Lex see okay how about for your work how quick from like coming to the ranch how quick from like

Brian Atlashi I pick you Lexi to be my prostitute for the next 30 minutes from that like how quick like like 5 Seconds five five

Brian Atlasminutes I 15 15 [Music]

SPEAKER_04minutes usually it'll take about as long as it takes for

SPEAKER_04uh us to complete this panel podcast tonight nice

Brian Atlas[Music] here sorry I'm sorry Nick pressed it

Brian Atlasthat was Nick Nick Nick rude uh what about you probably a couple

SPEAKER_00hours okay LOL paladins donated $30 Brian has talked to her for 7 hours the dude that got sex after only 6 hours of listening to her dri got the better deal

Brian Atlasi' give up after about 15 minutes I do this every week dude uh yeah I'm just saying I'm just saying bro a girl will let you like literally

Brian Atlasblast on her face within hours of meeting but you ask her for a bow and that's where she draws the line or or even how about this a girl will let you

Brian Atlasput your penis inside of her but she won't cook you a meal she won't do your laundry she won't be submissive I thought we were talkinging about what I

Paytoncould I answer no that's okay go ahead I knew a guy for only a few hours and I did hook up with him and then we got in a serious relationship after that and

Paytonbow that's cool well that was my hookup what do you mean and would you have vow would you have vowed for him yeah yeah so there you go they will bow no but

Brian Atlasokay the same women the same women who will like I'll [ __ ] a dude within hours of meeting mhm you'll literally let him

Brian Atlasbe inside of you but like he's like oh can little a little a little bow a little accents you're doing you won't do a little bow it's crazy you're

Rileytalking about sex like it's only for the men you know women have sex with men for their pleasure too right and a woman bows to a man also for her pleasure no wait didn't you wait

Rileydidn't you just say earlier that like most of these women aren't coming yeah I did say that yeah that's actually how I get no not roasted you

Fernyou did not eat that point you're right I don't eat you didn't no you made no point right there no yeah because yeah I do have like people do have sex for pleasure but then they don't end up

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