ADDRESSING DRAMA! Brian CONFRONTS Hater Girl Who Called The Podcast DUMB?! | Dating Talk #191

Date: 2024-08-28

Duration: 6h 54m

Guests

Brian Atlas

LLexi (Escort)>

PPayton (pay_irl)>

MMadison (SBCC)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00(audience)

SPEAKER_05Lexie(guest)

SPEAKER_06Payton(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Riley(guest)

SPEAKER_10Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_11Ava(guest)

SPEAKER_13Fern(guest)

Key Moments

OtherFern reveals her ex-boyfriend had a sexual encounter with her male best friend.

“Fern explains her on-off boyfriend (100+ breakups) turned out to be on the DL. Someone told her after their final breakup. She reconciled with the best friend.”

OtherRiley openly says she would go on a date with Lexi over the Chilean soldier guest (a man) sitting at the table.

“Brian asks Riley if she would go on a date with the Chilean soldier (a male guest). Riley says no — and she would go on a date with Lexi instead. "Brutal mogged" reaction.”

OtherPayton physically intervened when her boyfriend was held at gunpoint.

“Payton describes being with her marijuana-dealing boyfriend when an acquaintance pulled a gun. She grabbed a bottle and smashed it over the attacker's head. Police report followed.”

OtherAva and friends sold their bikini bottoms to a man at a nude beach for $100 each.

“Ava describes how an older man at a nude beach offered to buy their panties for $100; they negotiated up, went to his car, and sold them. Describes preparing them for sniffing.”

ControversyBrian and Lexie argue about whether she can claim to want traditional treatment while doing sex work.

“Brian points out that Lexie does OnlyFans and escorting, so it's inconsistent to want traditional chivalrous treatment. Lexie says she wouldn't want her boyfriend doing those things anyway so it doesn't apply. Extended back-and-forth.”

OtherRiley's crack cocaine admission — viewer's "ex-boyfriend" donation claims she smoked crack with him.

“A viewer donates claiming to be Riley's ex and says she smoked crack with him. Riley denies it was recent. Admits to smoking crack twice in her life total.”

OtherMan vs bear debate: all four panelists prefer the bear, leading to discussion about male danger.

“Brian poses the would-you-rather with a random man or random bear in the forest. All women except Payton (contextual) choose bear. Discussion of what percentage of men are dangerous.”

OtherSelf-rating round: guests rate themselves 1-10 (no 7 allowed) and rate Brian.

“Ava 6.5, Riley 8, Fern face 8/total 5, Madison 5 (declines to rate Brian). Payton rates Brian 7.2. Fern and Riley rate Brian 4.5. Ava rates Brian 6. Chat says girls over-ranked themselves.”

OtherBrian addresses Jake Shields Twitter drama — responds to claim podcast divides sexes and Daily Wire buying the show.

“Brian reads his tweet response to Jake Shields, pointing out Jake appeared on similar format shows himself. Denies Daily Wire acquisition. Mentions Cernovich also stirred drama. Guests react. Old scammer drama update deferred.”

Topics Discussed

Show intro and guest introductions

Brian opens show. Guests introduce name, age, location, occupation. Pre-show no-shows mentioned. Kiki (plush cat) introduced.

Relationship status round

Riley: 6-month situationship, sees guy 3-4x/week, not exclusive, deleted Tinder. Ava: single a few months, ended relationship under 1 year ago, bisexual. Lexie: single ~3 years, celibate. Fern: single ~1 year, 8-month situationship cooling down. Payton: single 7 years, celibate 4 years. Madison: boyfriend (works for podcast).

STI testing and sexual health practices

Lexi advocates STI testing before every partner, dental dams, and "dick checks". Discussion of risks of oral sex and STIs. Riley shares vape with Lexi; Brian objects due to Lexie's sex work.

Who should pay on the first date

Ava and Fern: go 50/50 or expect man to pay if he explicitly invited. Riley: depends on invitation. Payton/Lexie: women should pay. Brian argues paying is the optimal chess move but questions whether modern women deserve chivalry. Payton offered to pay on recent dates, wonders if that was wrong.

Prostitution legalization debate

Should prostitution be legalized? Payton: should be illegal, including for buyers; would reduce harm to society including porn. Others: legalization makes it safer. Brian: doesn't think prostitution is good but uncertain on policy position.

Relationship transparency and body count

Should Brian disclose he never wants to marry? Should women disclose body count? Lexi's OnlyFans / sex work vs claiming to be traditional. Brian argues you can't claim chivalrous treatment if you're not a traditional woman.

Body count discussion

Is caring about body count immature or insecure? Riley: hypocritical if man has high count but demands low count from women. Fern and Lexie: preference, not immature. Lexie declines to state her number on this episode.

Man vs bear debate

Would you rather encounter a random man or random bear in the forest? Ava, Riley, Lexie, Fern: bear. Payton: man (contextual). Discussion of what percentage of men would victimize a woman. Estimates range: Lexie 50%, Riley 10%, Fern ~10-15%, Payton ~1-2%.

Feminism and gender equality

Are guests feminists? Definition debate. Discussion of legal equality vs social treatment differences. Women being tipped more than men. Male bias against male elementary school teachers. Military draft and selective service: should women register?

Racism and racial discrimination debate

Can you be racist towards white people? Riley argues racism requires power differential (prejudice+power definition). Brian pushes back with standard definition. Extended back-and-forth.

Self-ratings (1-10 scale, no 7)

Viewer "Stiffler" asks guests to rate looks 1-10 (can't pick 7). Ava: 6.5. Riley: 8. Fern: face 8 / total 5. Madison: 5. Payton: 6.5. Guests rate Brian: Payton 7.2, Fern 4.5, Riley 4.5, Ava 6. Madison declines (has a boyfriend). Chat calls girls over-ranked.

Pay gap and women in workforce

Brian argues doubling the labor pool by pushing women into workforce lowered wages and caused cost of living crisis. Mating pressure from women (providers) explains wage motivation gap. Guests push back with general disagreement but limited counterarguments.

Bowing to your partner discussion

React to video of woman bowing to partner. Would guests bow for a boyfriend? Madison: yes. Payton: yes if good provider. Others: no. Brian contrasts willingness to have sex with strangers but not perform traditional acts of submission.

Twitter drama: Jake Shields

Jake Shields (MMA fighter) tweeted that Whatever podcast is designed to divide sexes and make women look dumb. Claimed Daily Wire is trying to buy the show. Brian reads his full response tweet pointing out Jake appeared on same format shows, denies Daily Wire acquisition talks. Also mentions Cernovich drama. Old drama (scammer update) deferred to another episode.

Transcript

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Avawhen you're dating it's it's just like a societal gender Ro thing like it's just kind of the societal standard I guess of dating ritual and I just think that it's like a signifier of cuz if I'm if I'm

Avalooking for if I'm going on a date with a man like I'm looking for a relationship and for like I I'm I don't know like

Avasomething I I don't I I hesitate to say the word traditional but like something cuz I I wouldn't go all the way there but something leaning more towards what you that what are you looking for when

Avayou're dating a uh a woman I H to be honest with you I've I've never dated a woman before oh you're just attracted

Avato yeah it's more of like a a like a yeah fantasy SE sexual thing have you been with a woman yeah oh so you just like hit and quit it with the ladies

Avayeah I mean honestly like being bisexual I feel like I can kind of I mean if I were to like meet um a woman that I was that I was like super into yeah I would

Brian Atlaspursue it but I would prefer to just be with a guy mhm um to be able to like have kids and stuff sure Fair okay uh so

Brian AtlasI guess going back to this since you pretty much the only one at the table who holds this position men should you say men should pay on the first dat why I think it's just the chivalrous thing to do um it's a nice gesture I mean at

Avathe end of the day like yeah I'm always also going to like bring my wallet and be prepared to go 50/50 but I just think with our cultural stand standards set

Avalike it's kind of what's expected and it would show the woman that like oh this is like a guy that um is more chalous and

Avauh traditional are you provide traditional I would say that I I would want a relationship that's more geared towards that yeah well I know what so you're saying what you want but are you

Avatraditional how would you define traditional well you use the word so you said you want a guy to be chivalrous and traditional yeah like

Avalike just taking the more feminine role in things the more submissive like supporting role and this applies to romantic

Brian Atlasrelationships or Society in general romantic relationships okay yeah can you really disconnect the two

Brian Atlasthough um yeah mhm I I mean I I mean so but but so like for example ex Le I assume you want men and women to have equal opportunity when it comes to work

Brian Atlasyou want women to be paid the same as men hopefully for the exact same work yes because it that's how it used to be equal pay for equal work now it's just equal pay yeah I don't think that it should just be equal pay I think it

Brian Atlasshould be equal pay for equal work for sure but so if women are getting equal pay then why is there an expectation because this is a this is a hold over

Brian Atlasfrom when women were not really entering the workforce and there's an expectation on men to be sole Breadwinners and providers that's no longer the case that's been gone for a very long time that yeah that's why I say like like

Avasomewhat traditional like I wouldn't go full out there because in today's society like that's just not super realistic and attainable um in most households nowadays most relationships both partners are going to have to have

Avaa job to be able to um afford to live a comfortable life so the Dynamics are going to beight is um I mean unless you're

Brian Atlaslike why do I think that that both people have to work no but so why why do you think that it's now like you need two people to work to

Avasupport a um Family why do you think that is I there's I'm sure it's really complicated I mean I I I don't know why do you think it is so just I just want

Brian Atlasto preface this by saying I don't think it's wrong but I mean the reason Reon that it's the way it is is because when

Brian Atlasyou essentially double the labor pool it cheapens uh you know the the cost of Labor if you double the labor pool and that's effectively what we did when

Brian Atlasthere's this massive again not saying it's wrong but when we say hey there's this massive push feminist push women should enter the workforce they should disregard at least in their 20s pursuing

Brian Atlasfamily and children wait until your late 20s 30s then you can have kids and then still pursue a career and then just pay somebody else child support to raise your kids instead of you raising your

Brian Atlaskids essentially you double the workforce double the labor pool that's going to push wages down and so when when it used to be the case one income

Avacould support a family because that's what that's how it worked but now there's double there's double the labor pool essentially yeah I mean I'm

Avanot going to argue with you on that just cuz I'm not educated or like feel like confident to be able to speak on that topic I feel like it's more complicated but I will say I mean I've I've seen

Avastatistics that show that like and I mean maybe it is because of that I feel like there's probably a ton of different things that contribute to it but yeah I've seen statistics that show that just like the wage isn't keeping up with the cost of living for some reason we're

Brian Atlashaving a cost of living crisis so I guess to bring it back to the um men should pay for uh men should pay for dates do you think that men should P dates okay sure do you

Avathink that men should pay for first AIDS for all women um if it goes if it goes well if it's a woman that they're wanting to um pursue in a serious relationship and I

SPEAKER_00mean Boyfriend donated $200 AA you said you prefer boring guys was it boring when you hooked up and smoked crack with Me 2 weeks ago after

SPEAKER_00we had been broken up for 2 months and begged for me to take you back what is that

Avatrue well [ __ ] that's true I don't know what that is it says aa's x-boyfriend are you my ex-boyfriend

Brian Atlasis definely not watching this confirm or deny did you smoke crack what was it two weeks ago no deny all right have you

Avaever smoked crack I have twice in my life yes yes

Avait's a good question um but not anytime recently all right uh so you were saying I I asked

Avayou should men pay for dates for all women I think I mean it depends on what type of woman it is and well do you

Brian Atlasthink all women are deserving of having first date paid for them um no no oh

Avaokay well there's not much for me to argue with on them because my position I mean I mean if some chick is like you know she's totally rude on the datee and and like like yeah why would you what do

Avayou think about if she's like speaking to other guys yeah if it's if it's if it doesn't go well if it's not what you're looking for and yeah so I mean I think as a general

Brian Atlaspractice if as a man you want the highest success rate you should pay for the first date but I actually don't

Brian Atlasthink honestly probably most women aren't deserving of being of chival treatment you should treat you should be

Brian Atlasrespectful but chivalrous treatment goes beyond just respect yeah it says my time is more valuable than your time you need to pay for it if you don't pay for it there won't be a second date a lot of

SPEAKER_00women make this argument of well if he doesn't pay for for the date there won't be a second bricks and Mrs doc venil donated $200 refractory periods of a few minutes

SPEAKER_00are purely anecdotal looked it up since men never brag about their prowess we should believe them all when on crack

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Brian Atlaswas I've never played this but for now this Wild Buck has to roam free or he will die even when I was a young young

Paytonbuck young stud mhm five minutes it was not F it's okay Brian it's okay this is I wanted to ask you a question so you

Paytonthink that there's a higher success rate for a man to stay with a woman if they pay on the first date is that what you were saying uh it's just the most Optimum okay if you

Brian Atlaslook at dating if you're looking at it using an analogy here like chess paying for the date in every instance is the optimum chess move because while it

Brian Atlasmight not necess some women it won't if you split or whatever won't have an impact but there's enough women where it will and you won't know until that check comes and you pull the pull the move or

Brian Atlaswhatever the most Optimum move is to just pay for the day but but if we're having a conversation of like about fairness and egalitarianism and like how many women are feminists and not ladylike who are demanding chivalrous

Brian Atlasgentlemanly treatment then we can have a conversation about like what's fair what do women deserve and I don't think women deserve men to be chivalrous if they're not

Brian Atlasladies no offense to ladies most women aren't ladies and to be fair there's not a lot of I would say there's not a bunch of gentlemen out there either but that's

Brian Atlasthe that's the current dating landscape dating climate most women I don't think are deserving of chivalry because they themselves are not ladies or ladylike I was asking to that

Paytonspecifically because the past few first dates that I've had I've offered to pay and they let me pay and I'm wondering if that wasn't the optimal choice to make

Madisonin that situation it just it feels to continue to have other dates after that was that the wrong choice that ibe it's because they think that you're not interested that's what I was saying really I think it could be you think

Lexiethat they think I'm not interested and that's why I chose have you tried like speaking to them afterwards about your interest yeah oh of course yeah oh Brian that's exactly what I was saying always

Lexievery straightforward with my interest guys taking the lead in some aspects like paying on the first date you know what I mean like him do you think that was too masculine of me to do that or too straightforward you know what I mean

Lexieit's seems like you're even second guessing yourself there said it yourself he said that was the optimal Choice that's why I was questioning I don't think that would make a guy turn away

Brian Atlasfrom you okay yeah I don't think I mean some guys might welcome it I don't think it's going to like if you offer to pay I don't think it's going to like turn him

Brian Atlasoff of wanting to pursue you or anything so and I mean I if if a girl offers it's kind of a nice gesture I'll take her up on it why not

Brian Atlasbut no I mean now I'm just like I'm just going to pay for everything

Avabut but I'm in a play I'm like in a place too so what would you define as like lady like or you're saying that most wom are that's a good question

Brian Atlasso lack of promiscuity both current and past not to say that some women can't be redeemed but uh if she has a p to promis

Brian Atlascuity I think immediately now she'll probably still want guys to pay for dates and she can still get it but again if we're just having like a conversation here at a panel discussion about dating

Brian AtlasI don't think that type of woman is deserving of a guy being traditional she's not a traditional woman she had the opportunity to be she threw it out the window she's not traditional she's

Brian Atlasgot a body count of 20 30 40 50 that's wild I don't think she's deserving of having a date paid for her you weren't you aren't trai you're not a

Brian Atlastraditional woman yeah uh also if she's currently like if she's dating other men don't think she she's deserving of you paying for a date if she's sleeping

Brian Atlaswith another guy obviously there's no scenario where if a girl is sleeping with another dude now she might not tell you right but like if we're just looking at it bir I view

Brian Atlasremoved from the situation if we know those are the what's going on if a girl is sleeping with another guy there's no way that the guy like if she's going on a date with another guy yeah that he

Brian Atlasshould pay for a date with her yeah that's valid like how are you going to how are you going to give a girl chivalry when like after the date that you so generously and gentlemanly pay

Avafor she goes to the guy's house who she's [ __ ] and [ __ ] him yeah i' say you shouldn't be dating if you're like if if you go on a date with somebody for me I would hope it be under the pretenses of like you're looking for a

Brian Atlasrelationship a lot of people in the dating landscape are seeing multiple people dating M multiple people sometimes sleeping with one two three

Brian Atlasother people yeah and it's like you want me to pay on a date but you [ __ ] a guy last night hold on what are we talk are we talking about chivalry are we talking

Brian Atlasabout ladylike Behavior you just [ __ ] the guy yesterday common that is you know it's pretty common how promiscuous it's pretty if if compared they're on the dating app yeah probably got to go

Avaand assuming I guess i on dating apps too like people put their intentions we got two girls at this table who are single yeah but have been in friends

Brian Atlaswith Ben have who are in Friends with Benefits situations uh 6 Months 8 months mhm with one but they say they're single right no offense ladies yeah

Avayou are involved you're involved with the guys like you're not really single um I'd say that for in in those situations it's like yeah you just have to have a good picker on who you're going to go on a first date with I mean at the end of the day yeah you could go

Avaon a date with some woman who's like a total liar and she's like yes like I'm not seeing anybody whatever and you could never really know but I think that if if you screen the right people and like you're not just going on dates with

Avalike random hoes and you're like hey what are your values what are your um like do you do you engage in in hookup culture like what are you looking for whatever um if you want to date with

Avasomebody like that that is genuinely looking for a relationship and isn't doing that and is looking for like more traditional thing then yeah you should absolutely manage to pay on the first dat but I will give you those caveats for sure but I think it's up to those

Brian Atlaspeople who are going on the date to like do proper screening to like go on a date with somebody that does deserve it sure uh Nick let's go to Twitch really quick then we'll get into more pre-show notes

Brian Atlasguys go to Twitch . tv/ whatever drops a follow and a prime sub it's been uh a minute since we last had a prime but it's probably got rebug can you help

Brian Atlashelp help and Discord discord. guys go to discord.gg whatever drop us a follow in the prime sub if you have one discord.gg

Brian Atlaswhatever if uh discord.gg whatever uh check it out guys okay uh your next notes Here you say if you Brian doesn't want to get married no one should have

Brian Atlasto convince you as long as you're transparent about that that's just one of your dating preferences that women can either take or leave you might have a

Brian Atlasslightly harder time finding a solid more not uh Trad non strumpet woman

Brian Atlasthough non non non 304 304 but I use strumpet instead it's a little more polite s slightly maybe yeah a bit more polite yeah I don't see that issue with

Avayou not wanting to get married I mean basically what I said yeah but you you said I should as long as you're transparent about as long as like a woman knows like somebody marage well

Avayeah I mean if if you're like engaging in a relationship with someone you see it going somewhere and like I feel like you guys should and in any relationship you should know what you're looking for do you guys so just to give you guys

Brian Atlascontext if you don't know uh I don't see myself ever getting married not to say that I don't want to have well I do want to have a long-term relationship I could date the same

Brian Atlasperson for 10 20 30 40 years monogamous have kids Etc just don't want to have uh the marriage the the get the state involved the government involved um so

Brian Atlaswith that said do you think that I have a duty when I'm starting a data girl early on to be transparent and disclose this to a

Rileygirl I think when once you're dating then yeah once dating but not like early on okay yeah I would say that's a weird thing to mention on the first date that

Rileywould honestly scare a girl away because why are you already talking about marriage but maybe after like 4 years you should mention it uhh but wouldn't wouldn't that make you non-traditional

Paytonone here your um I'm getting older so I think anyone that I'm with or that's with me we should be straight up we should tell exactly what we're looking for and if they're not interested that's

Paytonthe end of it so I think you should be completely transparent from the get-go like first date say this is what I'm looking for you're not interested then that's that but are you going to answer my question what's your question so

Brian Atlaswouldn't that make you non-traditional though sure yeah okay so you're not traditional so in some ways I'm traditional in other

Lexieways I'm not okay so bring it back the last couple podcasts I was here I said the same thing I said in some ways I'm traditional and some ways I'm not and you got on my ass about it and you were like nope you can't be one or the other

Lexieso now I'm just here to say did I say that though I think you're misre I'm finally here to say on social media that gotcha there and it's perfectly okay well hold on let's it's perfectly okay

Brian Atlaslike I I still have love for you willage we agree on that part I love well there's a bit of a difference though there's a bit there's a bit of a difference so while I don't want to get

Brian Atlasmarried I'm perfectly uh I'm very much interested in and can have a longterm monogamous relationship that may or may not involve children perhaps you could say that this

Brian Atlasis not traditional but I don't know if it's a fair comparison because you are a prostitute okay but still so and I'm not saying that to insult you but I'm just stating but it's still non-traditional I

Brian Atlasyeah yeah but it's a little different it's a little different hold on but the the degree to which you are non-tradition it doesn't matter it's still non-traditional a traditional value

Lexiewould be to get married and to not have sex with anybody before marriage and to get married to that person yeah and I have and I TR I have no problems with

Brian Atlaspremarital sex so yes you're right it is nontraditional that's all I'm saying what so what do you you saying that you're non-traditional in some aspect difference but the the the difference is

Brian Atlasis that I don't really claim to be this like stalwart stalwart is that the right [ __ ] word no one saying that you are I don't claim to be some super tra guy

Lexienobody's saying you are I was just pointing it out that that was pretty cool Andes not stalwarts I use that word incorrectly sort of sort of maybe hold

Brian Atlason more definitions maybe who knows anyways go ahead that's it oh I don't know if it was really a gacha though but it was like it was like

Lexiea good a good point of growth right there like I don't know it was great it was a point of growth it was like a good point right there yeah like you just said that you kind of traditional kind

Brian Atlasof not and I was like that's exactly something that I said from the last so here for example you might be like well Brian can you really demand a a traditional woman then but here's the thing right no I'm not saying that oh

Brian Atlasokay cuz sometimes people will say well Brian you want a Trad woman but it's like I will date a woman who will have premarital sex in the same way that I have premarital sex you could say it's non-traditional to have premarital sex

SPEAKER_14right exactly yeah so that's what but like that maps on one to one whereas like you say no but you say I you're trying to dig deeper where it has to go

SPEAKER_14I'm not trying to say anything no but you want want to like you want to like go deeper than what it is I'm just saying that we can both agree that we have we can agree okay we can't agree

Lexieand I know and that's fine too but we can move on from this because that's all I have to say but I'll engage with it a little bit so I can't agree because uh

Brian Atlasthe degree to which engaging in sex work prostitution that is such a degree of non non-tradition non-traditional but

Lexieyou can't be a non-trad guy and say hey that's not traditional either when you're not traditional you know what I mean so it's

Brian Atlaslike but okay hold on I can call out if here's your take here no no no hold on ma'am stop I will answer stop okay so

Brian Atlasyou will say for example here's my expectations of a guy and you'll say well I want these sorts of traditional things in a guy and I I think in the previous show I pointed out well you

Brian Atlashave these expectations of traditional treatment from men but you're engaged in sex work you do only fans you I don't know if you do sugar daddy stuff you do all this stuff right and so excuse me

Lexiethat's not really like doesn't really mesh but I said that if I were to be in a relationship with a guy that I wouldn't want my boyfriend wanting me to

Lexiedo those things anyways so that's where I told you that I was partial traditional and partial not you know what I mean and that's why sure I

Brian Atlasdon't really date okay cool no and that's that's fine exactly what I was saying good cono good talk great it was good it was a good talk are you done I am but that's all I

Brian Atlaswanted to point out all right stop flirting with me relax Lexi me flirting with you ohsh take it take it easy all right jesz all right okay let's uh going

Avaback to notes um oh the marriage thing I don't know if we finished up fully on that damn girl you wrote a lot D I thought everybody did so you said uh I should so you think I should be

Avatransparent yeah yeah I mean and I and I didn't say I'm not saying like come out on the very first date and be like I refuse to get married but like you know just if you begin casually dating

Brian Atlassomeone you could see it going somewhere um I think it should be something they're aware of and and then I think that it's totally fine do you think women should be transparent about their body count like on the first date I mean

Avaagain I would say maybe on the first date like that that's a little like bit of a of a strange encounter actually stop st stop stop stop stop stop I just

Brian Atlaswant to are you guys uh sharing a The Vape yeah no I just had our whole it I have a dress on no no I I actually don't mind that you guys are vaping but like have you guys been hitting her Vape no

Brian Atlasso it's in my dress I'm not I'm not like calling you out I'm just have you been hitting her Vape yes oh has she been yeah

Rileywhy um it doesn't bother you that she sucks dick for a living I suck dick too just not for a living why would I care that's not like

Brian Atlasshe has dick in her mouth right now why would that bother me she brushes her teeth you know but like it doesn't bother you that she's a woman of the night damn it doesn't bother you that I'm a woman of the night and I'm

Brian Atlasliterally just sitting right before your eyes well I wouldn't like share a I wouldn't share a VAP I'm sharing this table with all of you guys yeah but like if if you share if you put your lips on

Rileysomething don't make me come over there and give you a hug don't make me come over there give you a hug no but who cares she brushes her teeth you can't get

Rileyare you trying to say that I suck someck right downstairs in your alley but the thing is right before I got here right before the Pod suck a dick and walk through the door did I just suck some

Rileysome and then come right through your doors and then come right STDs that you said sex workers are typically the most safe about STDs everybody everybody in this so not true

PaytonI would trust she has been saying she uses dental dams say anything herpes can be caught by just using the you can smoke a cigarette

Lexiewith someone if they have herpes herpes from literally drinking out of the same cup I let you borrow this yeah that's why I wouldn't drink out of your cup Lexing no but herpes is a visible thing I don't see not always it can be

Paytonundetected you can have no symptoms it can be undetect act like you've never like kissed anybody kiss your part

Fernhooker or a prostitute as as I know exactly it's okay we see what other population has um mouth herpes here freaking out can we see the

Brian Atlaspopulation I'm not trying to throw shade at Lexi I'm just I noticed you were hitting her Vape I'm maybe it's [ __ ] rude for me to point it out

Brian Atlasbut me personally I wouldn't share a vape I also licked your door knobs in your bathroom I believe it and then I sucked cockre before I came here I'm not trying

Rileyto be mean to you Lexi I'm just I I'm just saying I'm not trying to be mean to you Lexi but I'm just saying I'm these are 19-year-old girls are sharing a vape with a well my answer to that question is no it doesn't bother me because I'm

Rileypretty sure am I being mean I'm just you're not being mean am I being mean being realistic you're being realistic you're being a little silly you guys should be thanking me for no I mean she told us before this started like I knew

Rileybut I like that's kind of first of all that's kind of discriminatory to be like my you know who Brian Atlas is you you're a sex work you can't hand my vape like and also she brushes her teeth wait

Rileyit's discriminatory yeah to be like you're a sex worker so you can't hit my vape or is it just it's okay Brian I forgive you don't worry Brian I forgive you am I am I just

Rileyokay God bless you I mean it's just a preference that you wouldn't do it but like it's like it's not that deep yeah I don't know I trust her especially after she's talking about dental dams and she gets tested after every partner make out

Brian Atlaswith her right now do it why would I do that damn hell no you were flirting with her both Bu you're both buying for free for the views wait yeah we're not going

SPEAKER_14to give you some free [ __ ] right now subscribe to my only fans to see us make out right after this podcast oh my gosh kiss her are you I'm

Brian Atlasjoking but um you're going to do sex work now no what what did I say that I bro he's just joking just joking kissing her isn't sex work no I thought you were

Lexiegoing to do a collab with her for jokes [ __ ] and Giggles no okay I'm just saying you got to be a little more

Rileyprotective with your Vape I think I don't know I trust her I don't you know I've never met anyone else in real life that's used a dental dam can I make another point though you

Paytonalso have a cough so you don't know if you're getting sick she could have a cold mon you could be getting yeah but she's having the cough drops you could be getting a cold from using that I'm

Avataking it the other way that's very different than a cold what if you got a these are the depths the nicotine addiction monkey malaria godamn girl I have it all yeah I'm scared as [ __ ] you're the one

Rileythat's going to get no and I also told her she said can I hit your vape and I said I have a cough by the way everyone can hear it everyone knows and she said that's gosh I just want her to spit in my mouth obviously she wants the cough

Brian Atlasso that's [ __ ] disgusting okay I don't know okay going back to the transparency thing uh so you think I should I should yeah I'd say that after if you're

Avaif you're dating somebody and you see it going somewhere then that should be disclosed oh I and I was asking should women be transparent about body kill again if you're dating a woman and you see it going somewhere yeah I don't a

Avaproblem with disclosing body count so like would do you think it'd be wrong for a guy to ask a girl first date like what's your body count it might be a little bit uh out of the or like it's

Avait's not usually the normal thing it might throw a woman off a little bit but um you know like if a guy does that I'll be like good we can have a discussion

Brian Atlasabout it um I don't mind disclosing that and so just one thing like when it comes to me not wanting to get married is it something that the woman should ask if it's something that it's important to

Avaher or that I should willingly disclose I mean I think it just naturally comes up in a uh relationship you you end up having but is the burden on me to disclose or is it on her if for her to

Avaask um I I think in well I mean it depends the type of I think in general women especially if you say that you're more traditional in some aspects

Avalike and want a woman that's not sleeping around and stuff like I'd say that the average woman does want to date for marriage right so I would say that um it is something that you should

Avadisclose as it is somewhat out of the norm um I'd say most people kind of expect that you know like mhm that the person that they're dating will eventually want to get married and if

Paytonyou're somebody that's not into that then yeah you should could I okay could I add something sorry um I think I agree with her and I think that

Paytoneven if you sound crazy you could be on a first date I think you both should be totally transparent say exactly what you want say exactly what you mean if they have a question they want to know your body count you tell them I feel like if

Paytonyou're looking for something serious You' just be totally open and honest from the get-go and if they're scared away then they're not the right person and that's just how it should be that's

Brian Atlasbeautiful yeah that was beautiful um should we just get into I mean it came up I guess we could get into body count to bring it up uh so yeah I guess

Brian Atlasuh well first off do you think men who care about body count do you think it's immature do you think that they're insecure no yeah say

Brian Atlaswe'll come back to you what do you think um do I think it's immature like if a man cares about B like let's say he wouldn't date a girl because of her body count do you think that's immature do you think it's insecure what do you

Rileythink I think that it depends on his body count because if a man is a virgin and he wants to be with a girl who's a virgin that makes total sense like you want your first if it's five and he

Rileywants a virgin I think if he wants a virgin you can want what you want but let's say he's going on a date with a girl and he likes everything about her and then finds out that her body count is like

Rileytwo she's not a virgin but it's like two any end stuff with her I think I think it's just hypocritical the main thing that I don't like in this situation is hypocrisy you know so if that guy's a

Rileyvirgin and he wants a virgin fine by me but if this man has a 50 body count and he calls women who have a body count of five a [ __ ] then you're being a hypocrite well what if he doesn't do

Brian Atlasthat but he does have a body count of 50 but he wants a woman with either a low body count so like say less than five or

Rileya virgin is that an issue there for you um I mean you can want whatever you want in the end but if he's it just

Rileydepends is he being a dick about it is he saying you're a [ __ ] is he insulting the girl that's a different story no he's not he's not insulting them but he's like I would not want to date a

Lexiewoman with a body count of more than 10 but his body counts 50 I would just say that's hypocritical hypocritical okay we'll get into that

LexieLexi I think it preference comes down a preference

Fernright but so do you object to men caring about body count I think that's their preference okay I mean like yeah if they care then they're not for me I don't

Fernknow it's kind of just like preference too do you think they're insecure if they care I don't think it's insecure it is just a preference but it's a little bit hypocritical I do agree with Riley

Ferndo you think it's lame to care about body count no no no not at all but not for you if they did care about body count you wouldn't date them I mean it would depend on like how they act about

Brian Atlasit you know what I mean okay I think everyone should care about body count whether they're male male or female okay uh Lexi those and we're going to get into

Lexieit oh wait before that one though can I say one one we're talking about my stories right oh boy okay are we talking about my stories what stories you were going to ask me about my list right your

Brian Atlaslist the list I sent you what were you going to ask me you mean the Instagram yeah what were you oh no we're still on body count so oh okay then never mind wait wait before you get up before you get up hang tight did not listen oh can

Brian Atlasyou just hang tight for like three minutes um Lexi Lexi what's what's your body

Lexiecount my body count um I say a lot I'd say a lot on this app right now and I say a lot in General on

Lexieall my social media platforms but this is a question that I will not be answering today wait haven't you answered it before on the show

Lexiemaybe oh just come on be a good sport hey I already said yeah but there's new people on the panel there's new viewers I know hi new viewers you're going to have to check out the previous episodes

Brian Atlascheck out the one with me on cand ens don't be lame and the other ones and maybe you'll find out just answer stop you've answered it before though what's like the

Brian Atlasrange I've literally said yeah but don't be laying have to look it up was married for 42 years my body

Brian Atlascount was one my deceased wife was two today's women are crazy Dean thank you for the message not sure why it came through with the ding oh I see why okay

Brian Atlasuh not a TTS but thank you Dean appreciate it man uh okay but like while I have the stand now can I have a mod look at uh are you just you going to make me have my mods it's

Lexiejust going to waste a bunch of time wait listen so I no we did the story right can I tell you the crazy story no you can't tell me the story answer the question wait the story though please

Lexieokay you you can tell the story but hold on you can tell the story but you no I'm not doing it I don't ever do it and I'm not wearing you wear the D and you have to say it while this music is playing no

LexieI don't okay well tell your story then great so I was walking into the gas station

Lexiejust to like buy a regular red bull you know and as I was going in there just dressed in like a Lululemon outfit this guy the cash register guy was like I was like how's your day going and he was

Lexielike it's going good I get to see hot women like you walk in here all the time and I get to look at their to and I was just like see he didn't know I was doing only fans or anything of that

Lexiesort and there we go he was talking about my toes I think all gas station men are kind of creepy weird though yeah what are we doing with the babies just hanging

Brian Atlasout body

Brian Atlascount you've already answered it on the show Lexi stop being uh subscribe to my only fans to find on my body count oh my God uh can we have a mod can we have a

Brian Atlasmod just find it um I'm trying to think what episodes you've been on next I think if you just search on the whatever page for Lex is

Brian Atlasit Lexi with two x's I don't know oh my God bro you're so annoying I know [ __ ] why are you flirting with me Lexi guys it's Lexi with two x's so just

Brian Atlastry to find it and if anybody in the mod chat you you can either DM it through Discord and Nick will tell me find it uh or you if you're one of the mods just DM

Brian Atlasit to me on Instagram uh okay going around the table then body count 12

Rileyokay not answering a come on you got say not you answer yours no body count I'm not saying it my take was body

Brian Atlascount doesn't matter so yeah exactly I thought body I thought body count doesn't matter if it doesn't matter why don't you want to I me in the why don't sh it I meant I meant in the sense that I don't care so why would you care and if if my partner does care and like

Brian Atlaswants to know then I'll tell him if we're sexually active but we're not sexually active wait what if she tells the body count will you guys share it no don't care what if the German

Brian AtlasSoldier sorry CH it's ch I swear no it's actually it's Chilean I mean the helmet's German but yeah World War I though

Brian Atlasum if he reveals it how about this range no more than 10 I'm not answering that sounds like yes I'm going to say more than

Brian Atlas100 I'm not answering okay it's more than 100 God it could be a thousand multiply it by three and that's the real number how about how many women can you give us that

Brian Atlasone barely one bar half of one half of one half of one top half or bottom

Avahalf what I don't know you know what he means I just like a little I will say one woman as well I feel like but that's not sex you just touch a little boobs I

Brian Atlasfeel like the women am representative uh Josie DMD me Nick did you get any DMS on Discord do you do you know where the DMS are wait you didn't even go all the way

Rileyaround the table any

Brian Atlasmessages okay Josie says that Lexi said probably over a thousand multiply by three and that's the real

Brian Atlasnumber what are you doing to that she's promoting her fans human on lipstick abuse or something don't look at me that way

SPEAKER_14please I'm he's getting nervous he's blushing he's getting red iing I managed to do this every time to no it's just look at you your red oh he's

Brian Atlasblushing I'm impervious to your deacy okay uh so anyways where where were we probably over a thousand no disclosure you're not going to disclose what if Maddie discloses why

Rileywould I care about Maddy's body count that doesn't help I don't know aren't you into women why would I care about this random you're not helping all right that's cool that's cool um let see you didn't ask all the

Rileyway around though like are you going to ask that oh well he's yeah whatever he doesn't speak English they're talking about me

Paytonanswering oh yeah go ahead so I have had carnal knowledge with seven men and two

Avawomen cool okay sweet that's dope thank you for sharing word knowledge I've never heard that term before it means

Avasex okay can I add an addendum to mine sure I just want to say that I'm not proud of it I had a phase and I've

Avalearned that um that the number has not moved in a while I'll say that I cuz I I

Avahave not enjoyed uh hookup culture yeah he but no shame for whatever personally just personally after my response I just

Paytonwanted to say I am reformed I was bisexual I'm no longer bisexual she's to clarify bisexual what does that what does that mean to be reformed bisexual that no longer that I've learned that I

Paytonhave I'm not actually or it was just like a gay conversion yeah I went to a gay conversion Camp are you serious yeah and then now I'm straight oh really so what did can you tell us a little bit more about the gay conversion camp and

Lexiewhat they do to you there they teach you to not be gay so how like do they put posters on the wall of like the opposite sex they they ask do it might be this

Rileycould be to they teach you things so you know bra really against the gay conversion yeah I will stay away wait are you are you actually for real though an moving moving on next top so moving

Brian Atlason wait Brian what's your body count I'll tell haha you no I just asked you first too bad I've never revealed it you almost had it

Avabut offer revoked okay um going back to aa's notes oh my God you said your ex got with a prostitute when you were on a break but still exclusive yeah I didn't know until after

Avathe end of our relationship was it a guy a guy prostitute no it was a woman oh okay yeah would you have preferred if it was a guy prostitute

Avaor um I think either way like that is something I just wouldn't prefer in general when he did that and then got

SPEAKER_14with mean wait I'm sorry but any who any who read this real quick cuz it has my name in it so we got to do it now too um actually no hold on and the daddy long

Brian Atlaslegs is so true want us to read it now I'm going to intentionally wait and allow Ava to continue her thing but we'll get to it later go ahead AA um

Brian Atlasthat sh was good wait do wait what was I saying what were your just give us the 10-second PL okay okay your ex got yeah

AvaI just if if if he did that when we were on an exclusive break and then got back to getting with me without telling me I think no matter who it is uh male or female I think that I wouldn't prefer it

Brian Atlasat all and I think it's super messed up just so Lexi start stops spazzing out over there keep put your mic to that yeah can you you get to read it you're going to read it though and hopefully you stop

Brian Atlasspazzing out but oh wait okay you get to read this one too no not this one this one no you have to read it it came up read it read it quick before it disappears oh my God Maddie read it real

Madisonbody count is ooo she is living as a human sex doll each of her customers would be better off buying a sex doll and calling it like I look like a sex doll is that what you're saying thank you very much for the compliment John G

SPEAKER_00donated $200 D the other hello Brian I'm John G at the urban landlord on YouTube please strike A's ex-boy friend TTS from the record as I have evidence that a

AvaVietnamese stock broker snatched the crackpipe out of is this true okay um basically I'm so this person knows you no so the per the

AvaAA X boooyfriend person was a troll um who is mad at my being on this podcast because they got rejected to be on this

Avapodcast um I am in recovery from you got rejected uh Andrew Andrew Wilson would know them uh he probably warned you about them they're they're a troll that

Avathey're trying but basically I'm I am in recovery from addiction and uh I'm very

Avaopen about that and uh I I I don't know what this is Vietnamese person whatever is somebody that I have been on some

Lexielive streams with but the I he was just joking around with that part okay all right Lexi go ahead and read it if you covered Lexi's face in flowers she'd

Madisonlook like long legs I love that like I am you want to finish reading it before it disappears no I don't care because all I care no this is this is my name go out on the

Madisonstreet if you want to be a prostitute resend everything nice I said about pton with the new info because listen I have very long legs and I can put both my

Lexielong legs behind my head so and I'm a very lanky girl 58 oh I did not mean to oh yeah thank you but anyways I meant to

SPEAKER_14press daddy long legs is my it's the two Stiffler the two Stiffler buttons right next to thank you Brian I appreciate it I had you flustered

Brian AtlasI don't it's okay don't blush uh what do I do so nervous what the [ __ ] okay cool uh word word or

Brian AtlasGiovani or a Legends or yo Giovani are you do any uh you do any personal injury stuff you do what kind of litigation do you do CU I know you're an attorney what is it uh corporate law are you a

Brian Atlasmaritime lawyer are you a tree lawyer are you a dog bite lawyer are you a uh intellectual property attorney criminal

Brian Atlasdefense what do you do tax attorney Taxidermy are you really tax dermist okay so going back to Ava you said it's

Brian Atlasdumb to sit around talking about which gender fault certain modern modern dating issues are mhm was that like a criticism of the

Avapodcast no no i' I'd say specifically I was watching and you guys were talking about you said who's fault do you think hookup culture is and I feel like it's

Avajust not productive to be like who fault is it and it it would be more productive to be like how can we what is the solution to this okay

Brian Atlasum so it was about the podcast then is it about when we're like assigning blame G so in your pre-show notes you say this you say it's dumb to sit around talking

Brian Atlasabout which gender fault certain modern dating issues are yes but then in further notes that you provide you say and it contradicts it says male

Brian Atlaspromiscuity drives female promiscuity because men are leaders and the enforcers yeah but more so because because DB as me I'm not going to partake in it because I'm going on this

Brian Atlaspodcast no but so you said you said that it's DB to sit around talking about which gender's fault certain modern dating issues are but then in the same breath say male

Brian Atlaspromis you say male promiscuity drives female promiscuity because men are leaders and the enforcers yeah well there's one do you see how those two statements contradict a little bit can

Avacan I respond and sure and then two I disagree but go ahead okay uh I would say I said that because I was I was listening and I heard that specific thing of you talking about hookup

Avaculture and promiscuity and you already put that out there so it's like sure I'm going to I mean honestly I mean I'm not going to defend myself super hard on that you're kind of right that was a little bit hypocritical of me

Avaum I guess that was just line of thinking that I was going on is that like since you said that I'm like I'll just disagree with what's already out there but you're kind of right about okay so then we can at least tackle that

Brian Atlasthe actual statement though that male promiscuity drives female promiscuity that's worth having a conversation over so my position on this and we've talked about it on the show while there are hyper promiscuous m out there and the

SPEAKER_12whole panel I'd like the whole panel to weigh in on this is that oh my gosh there's a big ass holy [ __ ] bro I think I might have to get I

Brian Atlasflinched Maddie you got this bro I you got this Maddie it's 20 ft in the air wait don't don't throw the don't throw the toilet paper you're there's no way you can I mean you got a good throwing

Brian Atlasarm Nick you got a good throwing arm but not the toilet paper let it go to the light and it will die yeah let it it's going it's going as long as it's just get the broom get the broom Nick we need

Brian Atlasa get get the we what do we need sorry guys we have a dragon

SPEAKER_02[Laughter] oh oh it's triping boys oh my God there's wait don't birck Nick's about to kill a bird my go oh it's so cute and

Avatiny Kill a Mocking Bird Nick get no I'm going to cry [ __ ] is happening I'm actually going to cry wao that's

Brian Atlastrippy oh my God oh my God oh [ __ ] oh [ __ ] oh my God you why did they all just

Brian Atlasoh my God what is going on in the whatever podcast yo this is a zoo it's a there's two birds there's a [ __ ]

Brian Atlasdragonfly oh [ __ ] oh [ __ ] it's [ __ ] going into the lights bro just oh [ __ ] Bros wait did the birds

SPEAKER_00leave roore PSA donated $200 throw the baby doll at at Maddie I don't want this actually I kind of need it to prot yeah you need you need that to protect

Brian Atlasyou wait wait don't go up there Lexi just come down Lexi come

Madisondown out you got the dragonfly I would fix that but I don't want to get

Brian Atlasup maybe if you like go food on the balcony what kind of food I don't think I don't know how many how many feminist women does it take to get two birds out

SPEAKER_01of the studio I am not I think it's stuck under that I'll gra my hands you don't care if I go upstairs wait dude what oh my God you guys are going to [ __ ] [ __ ] up bro we should probably leave the birds just

Brian Atlasleave them just leave them it's fine we'll continue on with the show it's [ __ ] Birds who cares they're we'll ask them we'll have them join the panel it's

Brian Atlasfine so why don't you guys instead of totally failing to get the birds out rejoin the panel so that we can continue on I will with the

SPEAKER_01show okay this is not an opportunity for you guys to go back there and interrupt the show let's get seated again F to get some medication from the

Brian Atlascar she'll be back who oh okay do you want to just be down there waiting for her yeah

SPEAKER_00okay oh my goodness did the did the TTS come through Maddie did this one come through I didn't hear in all the in all the chaos roore PSA donated $200

Brian Atlasthrow the baby doll at it MADD need it for protection I'll wear that hat now too you want to pass it to me all

Brian Atlasright that was interesting dude my heart is racing so fast right okay so what we we were talking about uh sorry guys how am a hypocrite there's a [ __ ] dragonfly and then there's two birds I

Lexiedon't even are they gone or they still no they're still in here I don't know why we shut that door though because she's out there [ __ ] bro she's out there

Brian Atlassmoking terrible time to oh let me take a smoke break while the Birds trying to escape ter good job good job with your

Avasmoke break [ __ ] oh my god dude she need to hit the Vape I think you needed join in the yeah but she's out there oh she's out there

Brian Atlassmoking um okay sorry guys so anyways somebody jump start what the [ __ ] we were talking about about how she's a hypocrite yeah what no we

Avaalready moved on from it's a male promiscuity or whatever driving female promiscuity what's crazy is I kind of want to do the bear question after two

Brian Atlaslike birds this big came into the studio and how everybody like freaked out and [ __ ] about birds I think I was the only one that was

Brian Atlasscared yeah you birds are my biggest sure the dragonfly scared me cuz I was like oh my goodness I didn't know what it was okay

Lexieso where Is It Anyways is it like right above us the bird the bird somewhere up there over we need to get off the topic of the bird it's going to keep

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