TANTRUM?! CRASH OUT?! Goth Girl Psych Ward DATING?! BPD Bipolar Girl LOSES IT?! | Dating Talk #258

Date: 2025-09-01

Duration: 7h 45m

Guests

Brian Atlas

CChloe (UK Goth)>

CCarmen (Arson)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_03Carmen (Arson)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Kelly(guest)

SPEAKER_05Malia(guest)

SPEAKER_06Jesse(guest)

SPEAKER_08Sydney (LDS)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Chloe (UK Goth)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Felicity(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduced

Key MomentChloe: psych ward 3 times, ~5 years total. 4-5 suicide attempts.

Key MomentCarmen: robbed 3-4 clients on ketamine from Seeking Arrangement

ControversyCarmen: slept with ~3 homeless men including one from a mission

ControversyCarmen's father put her on birth control at 13. Brian flags as potentially abusive.

Key MomentCarmen photoshopped fake herpes results and pointed gun on FaceTime

Key MomentSydney gifts Brian a Book of Mormon

ControversySydney's brother skip-traced Brian's personal phone during live show

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Chloe (goth/psych ward), Carmen (bipolar/BPD/former sex worker), Sydney (LDS/virgin), Jesse (married/child-free).

Chloe's Psych Ward History

3 admissions, ~5 years total. Self-harm. Suicide attempts. Snuck out to date.

Carmen's Sex Work/Robbery History

Seeking Arrangement $8K/month. Robbed clients on ketamine. Homeless men. Blood play ER visit.

Carmen's Father Enabling

Put her on birth control at 13. Gave the talk about masturbation at ~10.

Pit Bull Debate

Kelly defends pit bull Bashy. CDC stats: 66% of fatal attacks.

Sydney's Brother Skip-Traces Brian

Brother found Brian's personal phone number during live show and texted asking to remove Sydney.

Transcript

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Sydney (LDS)saying? >> It's not a It's not a racist." No, >> it's not like a racist song or something. >> I mean, their old one was like like take down all other nations where the purists, but they changed that.

Brian Atlas>> No, but that that's like a marching song. That's not >> That's their military one. That's not even their actual anthem. >> Pasty, bro. I can't see your super chats because it's freaking Canadian money >> and the music. >> Oh my god. Is Canada even real? >> Not really.

SPEAKER_00>> Just kidding. >> 31st day. >> I love Canada. >> I love Canadians. >> Have you been? >> Nope. Hasty George donated $30. >> Hey Brian, I'm considering what else you

Felicitycan do. Champagne. >> Oh, he doesn't need anymore. >> Yeah, we're getting cut off. >> Have to take him home. >> What can I do? >> I already

Brian Atlas>> Who's going to drive him home? >> I'm good. I'm fine. >> Someone's going to have to drive his car. Don't drinking drive. >> Barely hot in here. >> On an empty stomach, Brian. Like me. >> Wait, what? >> Yeah. Yeah. Go get some empty stomach. >> Oh >> yeah. Where's the pizza?

Felicity>> Oh yeah. >> They didn't get us pizza. >> Yeah, cuz you guys got pizza before. >> That's cuz they had special. >> Has anybody here ever had a threesome? >> Yes. >> Show of hands. Show of hands. >> Carmen. >> I don't. >> Kelly. Threesome. >> No. >> I was asked.

Brian Atlas>> Threesome. >> No. No. No. >> Threesome. More than a threesome. >> Oh no. >> Okay. Was it guy guy girl or girl guy? >> Two girls and one guy. >> Okay. Anyone had a hoe phase? Show of hands.

Brian Atlasraise your hand. >> What was Kelly? Kelly, get back here. >> Bring your pizza. You can bring your pizza. >> Oh, what about my pizza? Carmen, my pizza. >> Very hungry. >> I'm going to air fry it when I get back.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Wait. >> Um, >> what was your hoease? >> Me >> sleeping with my art teacher. >> That was your hoe. What was your ho phase? What did it look like?

Carmen (Arson)>> The face. Oh, >> it was all over the place. >> What are you doing, bro? >> This is yesterday and yesterday was today. >> Oh my gosh.

Brian Atlas>> Your face was the day before. >> Your your whole face was yesterday. >> Damn, bro. You guys going to have a weird [ __ ] ride back. >> Stop, bro. You're just trolling my my brain cells. >> I don't think she brain cells.

Kelly>> Okay, forget it. Carmen. All right, Kelly, you had a hoage. What was it? in high school. Um, I was just talking to a couple guys, going on dates. >> Oh boy. Okay. Good times.

Brian Atlas>> Not really. >> Anyone here hooked up with two guys in a 24-hour period? We know you did it. What about you? >> Why would you think that of me? >> I'm asking a question. >> No. >> Calm down, lady.

Brian Atlas>> [ __ ] she is tripping. >> Have you? >> No, I only have one party. >> Okay. You haven't. >> Almost done. We're almost done. We're going to rap soon. Just >> kidding. >> I'm very happy to report.

Brian Atlas>> Keep it together, folks. >> No. No. >> Not. >> Okay. >> Is it a dealbreaker if a guy uses the word [ __ ] >> No. >> Or [ __ ] >> No.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Soft nowadays. >> Sydney's like green flag. >> Deal breaker. Malia. >> No. >> It looks like you want to say it's a deal breaker. >> No, it's not a deal breaker. I just don't.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> You don't appreciate it. If he's yelling at a [ __ ] you're a [ __ ] >> That's a red flag. But if he's like, "I'm a retard." >> Demonic possession, bro.

Brian Atlas>> Then I love you. >> Yo, wait, Sydney. Uh, you need to do some like >> some sort of like I don't know, some

Brian Atlassort of get get her the [ __ ] holy water, bro. Look, she's [ __ ] exorcy [ __ ] can you do it literally an exorcism? >> No, I don't believe in exorcism. Catholicism that does that.

Sydney (LDS)>> I do I do believe in demons and whatnot, but >> I mean, we can pray for her, but I definitely >> Ryan, why are you think something's wrong?

Sydney (LDS)>> Oh dear. >> He thought he was Iron Man. >> Are you [ __ ] dancing to that like >> to the [ __ ] Stormwind music? >> Brian, I do have I do have something. Come on, Kermit. Go.

Sydney (LDS)>> Come on. >> Oh, no. That's not necessary. Thank you. >> Wow. I've never seen that matched with >> a sexy dance. >> Yeah. Go ahead, Sydney.

Sydney (LDS)>> I love it. >> Well, um I hope you take this in good humor, but I do have something that could help. So, this is a gift to you. >> I hope you take it in good humor. >> The Book of Mormon. >> I would in good missionary spirit. >> Did you sign it?

Brian Atlas>> I started writing your name and then I it was in the Uber and I couldn't finish it. But >> I see. Yes. The Book of Mor is for you. >> Where's the part about the aliens and planets? >> The Aliens and Planets. Yes, that's

Sydney (LDS)>> what What are the What's it called? >> It's called DNC Doctrine and Covenants and it's in a different book. It's not in the book. >> Oh, but there is a >> Well, there is stuff in there. Yeah. Well, because like >> And then what about the planet stuff? What's that about? >> What? What planet stuff? Oh, you mean

Sydney (LDS)like collab? >> Something else. >> Are you thinking of Scientology? >> Are you thinking of like collab? is like like Christians do generally believe in like collab as like heaven or something >> as like a separate world.

Brian Atlas>> I have a thing with the red brace. >> Well, thank you. Thank you. I >> I will actually I'll add it to the bookshelf behind me. I'll add a moment to read it. >> I don't want to get it wet. >> So, I'm going to just put it right here. Actually, here. I'll just put it.

Brian Atlas>> Can I hold it? >> No. It will catch on fire. >> And I don't want to do that. It will catch on fire. Okay. >> It's the words that important, not the >> All right. Uh, let's see here.

Brian Atlas>> Oh, I think she had a question. >> Oh, is it the deal breaker if a guy has a podcast? >> Yes. >> It's true. >> Yes. >> No. >> Depends on what he's making his money

Felicityfor that 200k a year. >> Like if it's a super macho bro like like masculine podcast maybe. But >> more men.

Jesse>> What if it's like a failing podcast but he keeps posting? Oh, I still find something that's still support. >> I mean, I did have a question earlier

Jessewhen we were talking about like how much you want your man to make. Does it matter what type of work he's doing in order to make that money? >> Sorry, what? >> So, like when we were talking about how

Jessemuch you want your man to make, does it matter what type of work that he's doing? >> I say, >> wait, can you do can you do like >> No.

MaliaWait, can you >> No, like a rat. Like, >> okay, never mind. >> Feel like we're on a horror podcast now a little bit. >> Carmen's been sweet.

Brian Atlas>> No, horror like she's giving us like >> you tried to twist it to make it a positive. >> Oh dear. >> Carmen, stop molesting your belly button. Leave your belly button alone. >> Oh,

Jesse>> okay. Go ahead with your back. >> Wait, wait, hold on. Let her go first. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go ahead. So, when we were talking about what we want our man to bring, like how much they we want them to make, does it matter what type of work he's doing to make that money? >> Yes. >> Well, I hope he's not scamming or

Jesseanything. >> He can't be a porn star. >> Okay. But like I'm specifically talking like blue collar work. >> Rest of the show. You have to stare into this camera. >> You can't look away. >> Oh, no. >> You have to look into this camera. Go ahead.

Jesse>> Um, I'm talking more like blue collar work versus white collar. >> Like, does that matter to you guys? No, absolutely. >> I would prefer white collar. >> I love a blue collar. >> See, that's interesting to me. I want them to stay at home.

Jesse>> He's working hard to provide >> you can appreciate what he's doing so much more. >> Absolutely. >> That's what I'm saying. I think physical labor is more appreciated. >> Of course. But I hope people that are

Maliawatching are are also realizing that the number I'm stating is for like children and for like a home and for to supporting the family. all that stuff. >> But $500,000 is way more than you need

Jesseto do. >> No, but I'm saying that was like an unrealistic world like my dream world. But I said 200 crate realistically. I'm hoping. >> But like my question was more tailored to blue collar versus white collar

Jessebecause I feel like in society these days we frown upon labor work. Like everybody wants like it's work smarter not harder but like who's going to do all the other stuff.

KellyAlso, there is a study that I did just read about um a lot of students now students are graduating with no kind of skills. They're just graduating with the degree. And a a specific skill set is

Kellygoing to is going to get you a job way faster and it's going to get you a secure job way way faster than just getting that degree. So, blueco collar workers have skills. So, those blue collar workers will be employed for most

Kellyof the time. You're not going to have to worry about them, you know, whatever. But yeah, they're going to be they're going to be employed. So that's >> Yeah, I admire a hardworking man in general. >> Yeah, there's nothing wrong with no blue collar worker. We love them.

Kelly>> I guess I have a question. Cool. >> Yeah. Hey, you make your money as long as it's not illegal. As long as it doesn't affect me. >> If he's blue color, he's not going to

Kellyhave enough to hang out with me. >> So not true. Um, like I like that's just laziness. Yeah, that is just laziness because you can't get

Kelly>> work from like 5 in the morning till like 5:00 p.m., right? >> It depends. No, these blue collar workers are working from [ __ ] 5:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. I'm thinking like

Kellythe white collar workers, they're also work. My boyfriend's my boyfriend um is a white collar worker. He works from like depends on depends on the day but most of his shifts are 10 hours work from home. >> Like an electrician doesn't do as much

Jessemanual labor. Like it's not as hard but is a blue collar job as like a plumber or a concrete. >> For example, my husband is a fire protection system fitter. Like so he does fire protection systems in like

Jesseindustrial buildings and stuff like that is hard labor but he's working like uh 10our days. So but he's home in the afternoon. Like that's the thing because they start so early. They're home in the afternoon and so like he like hangs out

Jesseand chills and does whatever he wants and then I get home at 4 and >> we're fine. We hang out. We have dinner. >> Oh >> yeah. >> I think just a providing man is just all that matters. >> Yeah. And also for the blue collar

Kellyworkers too if you're worried about them like not having time for you because they work in the morning. They do get off at like 3:00. >> Mhm. >> And then you guys have the whole rest of the day to hang. >> That's what I'm saying. Like that's just laziness if you ask me. >> Yes. he messed up

Jesse>> or not taking you into consideration because you know you can also spend time together but apart like you're doing your own thing but you're together like that's a thing >> if you're a man like provided enough

Maliathat you could have kids have a stable home um would you guys choose to stay home? >> Yeah, absolutely. >> I want to stay home. >> Good for I love that question. I've actually been waiting to talk more about that stuff but I'm I'm glad you asked

Maliathat. >> Do you want to stay home? >> No. You want to stay home? I'm I say I'm only reason why I said that I feel like a lot of times the modern day men do not want to be the providers and actually do

Malianot agree with traditional man and woman morals. So I I wanted to talk more about that today like how a lot of our modern men these days do not want to pay for your guys' dinners. They want it to be

Malia50/50 and actually do not and are not ready to provide for a family. And I think that's a big discussion we didn't have today. Well, I think it's important because like if females if all they're

Sydney (LDS)wanting to give is like sex and quick relationships, not any real, then why would men want to pursue that? So, I think it's two-sided where >> it isided. It It honestly does start

Kellywith what had happened. I think feminism had a big part of that of the reason why men want to act the way that they want to act. That's 100% true. It definitely was feminism that pushed this new wave

Kellyof men. But it is I think in my opinion it is still true that a lot of people they just are really soft nowadays and can't handle >> can't handle a lot of things. Women

Kellycan't handle a lot of things that has to do with men and what what it what it's like being with like a man like this. And then a lot of men they just don't they don't want to be a provider for some reason. Men don't want to be independent nowadays. It's weird.

Malia>> Absolutely. I've just experienced a lot of men being scared of providing for a woman and that's why I was just kind of waiting for the conversation. do have a theory that nobody wants to have to take

Jessecare of somebody else. I think if you have to take care of somebody else, it becomes a chore and like it's not out of love anymore. Right now, if you're providing for your partner, like this is something you discussed like you're going to stay at home and I'm going to

Jessego work. That's totally different. But like if you're starting to expect somebody to take care of you, I think that's where that line is drawn. Well, if I expect somebody to take care of me, but I'll in return do the housework. You

Jessegot >> But again, that's a conversation. You've had that conversation. >> Oh, yeah. If if you're dating, then that should be like one of the first things you talk about. >> But like women just expecting things, I think that's very wrong. >> Yeah.

Malia>> And a general standard, though. >> How do you guys feel about like a woman who fully like can provide for themselves and is with a man that kind of refuses to be a provider even though he knows his woman can provide for herself? >> I think that's their relationship.

KellyThat's what she chose. I personally don't agree with it. I wouldn't ever choose that for myself. >> Okay. >> It's a preference at that point. >> Okay. >> No, he's a [ __ ] >> Go for it. >> We're just talking about general conversation.

SPEAKER_00>> No, I know. General conversation. If a man doesn't want to take care of his woman, I think they're a [ __ ] >> Where the girl in chair is covered in tattoos and strangely touching her body to World of Warcraft music while Carmon

Sydney (LDS)tells us about being saved by Christ. >> Plot twist. I hope to never live in that reality and I'm very happy to be a wholesome person. >> Jesus is amazing. >> Thank you, Cha. Good to see you in the

SPEAKER_00chat. Appreciate it, man. >> Hasty George donated $30. The reason why good men don't want to pay for dates anymore is that women have used men for free meals for far too long. >> True.

SPEAKER_00>> They have had enough. >> I I can see where he's coming from with that. >> Yes, >> I definitely think it is a donated $30 W chair for tonight. Brian, you've got

Sydney (LDS)Flint on your women's fight. Would Brian more, please? >> Oh, damn. >> I definitely think something that Brian talked about in episodes past too was like, why should men have to pay for the

Brian Atlasdate if it doesn't go anywhere or I think is that one of your position? >> Yeah, that's just like I debate on the who who should pay thing. Yeah, devil's

Brian Atlasadvocate, but it's never it my argument is never well uh if the man doesn't get anything out of it. That's never my argument. >> Brian, I have a question. Oh, sorry. No, no.

Malia>> Yes. Go ahead, Malia. I know you're >> so curious about my >> I I just have never really watched of like >> Oh, yeah. What's up? I I I kind of want to know your position on as far as like

Maliabeing a man and um the role you play when it comes to a woman. >> Um do you believe in 50/50? Do you believe in providing fully for your

Maliawoman that you want to marry and have children with? I'm I'm just curious. >> That's a good question. So, if I'm with a girl, she's my girlfriend.

Brian AtlasI'm going to take care of everything. >> Okay. >> Um

Malia>> I don't know if is is there more? >> That's it. That's it. That was really easy, actually. I was expecting a little bit more. Did you enter in the 50/50? Oh, sorry. Go ahead. >> But >> if she expects it though, like if she

Brian Atlascame at you expecting that, would you still feel the same way before take over? >> That's what that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to take care of everything. I don't want her I don't want her to have to work at all. >> Really?

Brian Atlas>> Oh, so you're traditional. >> Well, I don't think traditional is totally black and white, >> of course. But uh in that in terms of the dynamic between a girl

Brian Atlaslike long term, yeah, I don't want her to have to work. >> Okay. >> And she won't she won't have to. I'm going to take care of everything. She won't have to work. >> Okay. >> But I am going to have expectations when it comes to the household, when it comes to children.

Brian Atlas>> Mhm. Absolutely. As you should. >> But to your I I forgot if it was you or you asking me >> like I wouldn't want a woman who's like in has an entitlement. >> Uhhuh. M >> she can want it, but if there's an entitlement that's unattractive and then

Jessealso just >> um >> I guess like but if she came to you and she was like you guys were obviously talking about dating and like what you want for your future and she was like I expect you to do X Y and Z you'd be okay with that?

Sydney (LDS)>> No. >> Like if it's an expectation like you don't do this like this isn't going to happen. Well, I feel like the entitlement comes from expect wanting the traditional values but then not returning the traditional. But I think it's just like a I think it's a standard

Sydney (LDS)that you set for yourself like no my man is going to provide everything but I'm going to be doing everything in return. >> Okay. >> So like traditional expects traditional. You can't have somebody expecting traditional not being traditional. >> Absolutely. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> But yeah, I mean I long-term relationship. I'll I'm going to take care of everything. She doesn't have to work. But I am going to expect the bow.

Malia>> I feel like I feel like I'm your wingman right now. You know, the women in the in the live are like >> Yeah, the women are like, "Okay, Brian." >> I mean, it's like mostly dudes watching. >> I know.

Brian Atlas>> Maybe. No, I'm happy because they can take notes off of, you know, >> how a man should really >> notes >> represent, >> I guess. But well the butt that I was going to say is I feel like a lot of women aren't deserving of that kind of

Brian Atlastreatment. >> Of course I like a lot of women are not holding up their end of the deal. But I I want to say I hold men to this too. If you're a guy and you have certain expectations on women, you need to hold

Brian Atlasup your end of the deal. But women, I feel like they're failing to hold up their end of the deal when it comes to because very often you'll have really modern women, progressive, liberal,

Brian Atlaswhatever, and they have traditional gender expectations on men, but they've they what is the word? They have not revoked. I say this [ __ ]

Brian Atlasall the time. How can I [ __ ] alcohol? I blame it on the alcohol. >> Alcohol. So don't judge me on my um country list. >> They have abdicated. No, it's

Brian Atlas>> abstained. >> Abandoned. >> Neglected. >> Abandoned. Yeah, they've uh they've >> they've uh you guys a lot of women have

Brian Atlasaband not redacted. What the >> red spelling out the big words? >> Rescended. No, it's not. >> They've abandoned words. >> Rescended would be surrendered.

Brian AtlasRescended. Now relieved. It starts with an R, not [ __ ] It starts with >> rebuke. >> Revoked. >> Revoked. >> Revoked. >> Revoked. I don't know. Whatever. It doesn't matter.

Brian Atlas>> I don't know. >> You got a lot of modern women who are not traditional who want traditional treatment. >> I think if you want traditional treatment, you got to be a traditional woman. >> And I love that. And I really do love

Jessethat. I hope you right there. >> Maybe. But I think women are way more selfish than men. especially way more selfish than men. >> Way more selfish by the way. >> Always about me. Think about it. When we

Jessetalk about main character syndrome, it's usually about a woman. >> Most people don't even say thank you for their dates, which I find. >> Hey guys, here's what we're going to do for the last like 10 minutes of the

Brian Atlasshow. I lowered the TTS to we're doing a 20 effectively $20 TTS 1999 >> uh TTS roast. If you want final call, last call 10 minutes. >> Literally >> TTS roast.

Brian Atlas>> The third time. Also guys, you can do roasts and get some Whatever merch. shop.what whatever.com. Uh you can make a purchase and then you can include a message in your purchase. So we have

Brian Atlast-shirts for like 30 bucks. >> Very very nice. >> It includes So if you buy a t-shirt, you get a little bonus. You can do a a roast basically uh for just an extra for an

Brian Atlasextra 10 bucks, you get a t-shirt basically, at least for how the current price is for the roast. $20 TTS. Get them in. Great. 10 minutes. >> I like the slot one. That one's cute. The slot one. >> You are so welcome.

SPEAKER_00>> Can I have one? >> John there donated $30. Just want to make everyone a t-shirt cuz I can. >> No. What? >> Cuz I can.

SPEAKER_00>> Okay. I need to get whatever. >> That's the power. Take that. >> Hasty George donated $30. The reason that a lot of men do not want to marry

SPEAKER_00western women anymore is because of the divorce 304s that marry just for money. >> Are not a complete guarantee against gold diggers. >> That is true.

SPEAKER_00>> Justin Martins donated $30. >> Are we going to get Brian made free wear caution tape? >> It's because it start >> I think it actually looks really cute

Malialike that. >> It looks good. You should just never wash it like that. I know it's a statement piece. >> You could probably You could probably sell that for a lot of >> I just don't think you should actually take the tape off because you're not a cheap [ __ ]

Malia>> Well, >> you don't want to represent it. >> I just don't want it by wearing it. I love cheap pores. >> It's probably for the best.

SPEAKER_00>> If she wants to be a cheap, she can be a cheap. It's not funny, baby. >> Stuff and junk donated $69. I married my wife. We were very

Sydney (LDS)different. You can make all things work with a strong man and a submissive woman. No like God intended. >> That is so good. You have to be able to change and grow together. >> Rude. Felicity. >> So, I think getting married young is

Brian Atlasbetter. >> Yo, Justin, thank you, man. >> Cuz you can grow together either. >> That was stuff and junk. Thank you, Stuff and Always a good idea, too. Wait, >> quiet guys. Quiet guys. We got to let

SPEAKER_00Chaw come in here. >> TTS, >> if you're actually curious why men have departed from the traditional roles you expect, the answer is simple. Women

SPEAKER_00abandoned their feminine duties, men have no incentive to fulfill theirs for you. >> But it's so crazy cuz they'll get a very traditional woman and still refuse.

Brian Atlas>> Sometimes that does happen sometimes. >> Yeah, that happens. Yeah, >> that happens. Oh, the bow video. Okay, this is my expectation first. Oh, did we do the laundry? Did we talk about the laundry?

Brian Atlas>> Wait, like barely. But >> I feel like Okay, play play the bow first. We'll play the bow. >> Saw the song. >> Oh, wait. Hold on. >> George, the bow. >> Pasty George donated $30. Many men are

SPEAKER_00not seeking Western women anymore because of the gross entitlement and ego that they display towards men. This is why MTO and Passport Brothers are

SPEAKER_00growing. Traditional women FTW. >> Lucifer Mooning Star donated $20. Why does chair one look like she was the

SPEAKER_00tattoo artist dummy? Was it his first day on the job? >> A thank you. Love you.

Brian Atlas>> $20 TTS. We got seven minutes. If you guys want $10 $20 TTS, also if you guys want, you

Brian Atlasbuy a shirt shop. It'll just come through as a TTS. You can include a message. >> Thank you guys. You guys are [ __ ] legends. Thank you. >> Being married nowadays to women in this age is not a good idea.

Malia>> You're just not finding the correct woman. And I like you can find so many of women that want to take care of you. >> That's ridiculous. >> Yeah. If you're not if you're not have

Sydney (LDS)those exact same standards for yourself, then you can't expect it from someone else. So, if it's not a good idea, if you wait, >> Sydney. >> Uhoh. >> I love you, but I have to call you out.

Brian Atlas>> But it's not really you. >> It's not really me. >> I got to call you out, Sydney. >> Okay. What is it? >> All right. Should I do it, Nick? >> Yes. Do it. >> Uhoh. >> You know what? I'm a social assassin, so I guess I have to.

Brian Atlas>> I'm social. I'm nervous with you. >> Okay. So, randomly, like earlier, a couple hours ago, I got a text message on my personal number. >> Oh, no.

Brian Atlas>> Which I don't give out. >> Hello, Brian. This is your brother. Uh, >> my brother? >> My parents and I are extremely disappointed with the way this episode is being handled, and we feel like

Brian Atlasnothing productive is being discussed. Would you please tell Sydney that we'd like her to leave the podcast? If she chooses not to leave, >> would you please at least start talking about things that matter and not just

Sydney (LDS)let those mentally and morally crippled girls talk about their horrible life decisions? Thank you. >> How did my brother find your number? >> Psychopath. >> So I asked because

Brian Atlas>> that's so >> and he says, "Sorry, I'm not going to disclose that. I'm honestly just worried about my sister and hope that this episode becomes higher quality. I'm not going to share this number with anyone else. I was just wanting to get that

Brian Atlasmessage to Sydney and and then I was like, do you think that's appropriate to like do some little [ __ ] internet thing, you know, try to >> I don't know what is it? Skip tracing or whatever. You can find people's [ __ ]

Kellynumbers. It's [ __ ] weird. Weird. That's [ __ ] weird. And to text you live is even [ __ ] during the show. Like that's a [ __ ] go off [ __ ] I'm sorry, but that's [ __ ] weird. Like if you're looking up [ __ ] people's numbers and watching them on the show at

Kellythe same time and texting them about it and telling him how to run his [ __ ] show, that's weird. Sorry, but it's weird. >> But a lot for stalking. >> That's a form of stalking. >> That's hella weird. I would be [ __ ] creeped out. I would be like, "Bitch,

Kellywhat the [ __ ] How the [ __ ] did you get my number?" And you won't even tell me how you're going to get my number out. >> I told him >> I was like, "Do you think that's appropriate to text me on my phone personal number?" >> I have no idea. I he is very very

Brian Atlasprotective and I think >> is he like a private investigator or something? Was he do what does your brother do for work? >> He just got back from a two-year mission actually. So

Sydney (LDS)>> why bro? [ __ ] I'm not even Mormon, bro. And they're already [ __ ] coming for me, dude. What the [ __ ] >> I don't know how you got your number, but I appreciate for me. And >> there's ways you can do it. You can do another all this [ __ ]

Jesse>> but um >> Wait, what? >> I I said I have a hot take. I think all Yeah, I think all religions are a form of a cult and they're only there. >> We don't have time >> I don't have time for that. But

Malia>> what >> I really do appreciate your, you know, your outlook. >> Yeah, I know. I love what you stand for, but a lot of times they also like target Mormons, >> but I mean I I do appreciate a lot of

Jesseyour guys' like, you know, your standards, but I say cold there. >> Chill out, Felicity. My other part though is I think he was just saying

Brian Atlasthat there's crazy that is crazy but he just going I just had a I just had an epiphany about this. >> So he says I hope that you can

Brian Atlasunderstand where I'm coming from as a brother sir. I think that's >> which is weird because I >> do have a sister so I don't know if he's

Brian Atlastrying to like >> and he found that during his skip trace >> you could definitely find that we had a we had an incident two weeks ago by the way two weeks ago I never mentioned this on stream cuz it's [ __ ] creepy as

Brian Atlas>> [ __ ] it >> two weeks ago >> guys be be quiet two weeks ago the reason we were like what like 30 minutes late >> we had these two girls who came together

Brian Atlaswith their manager and their manager, I don't know if he was on drugs or drunk or whatever. >> He was weird. >> I I'm trying to get the show going. I'm I'm super busy. Uh pre-show.

Brian Atlas>> I get a call on my phone and it shows my It says dad. >> It says dad on my phone. And so I pick it up and I'm like why? I'm I was already kind of nervous cuz you know

Brian Atlaslike my dad Why is your dad calling? >> My dad knows I'm doing the show. like this must be emergency that my dad is calling me like right before the show and then it's another person's voice >> and my heart sinks. I literally thought

Brian Atlasmy dad died. >> Yeah, that's so scary. >> I'm not even joking. Like if you get a call from >> they spoofed your dad's real number and >> they spoofed my they spoofed his number.

Brian AtlasBut initially I thought oh my god he's [ __ ] dead. Somebody found his and I was like literally right before the show and then it's this [ __ ] we dude. I'm like who is this? And he's being weird

Brian Atlasand then it's like oh uh can I can I come up? I came with those girls. And I'm like no we have a no guest policy. >> Mhm. >> And then and then uh I'm like yo I got

Brian Atlasto go. So I hang up and then he proceeds to do that and it pops up mom. So he spoofs. Then he called for he called my sister. >> What? >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Ryan, what the [ __ ] >> This is the [ __ ] I deal with. >> This is the public figure. Public figure. >> This is And so my sister called me and she like my actual sister. It didn't It

Brian Atlaswasn't him spoofing. My sister calls me and she's like, "Hey, some [ __ ] weird guy just called me." I'm like, "Why the [ __ ] is this weirdo? I never I've never talked to this dude. Why is he calling

Brian Atlasmy sister? Just weird [ __ ] like that. Now your brother, he didn't do that. Was what this other guy did was worse than what your brother did. >> But like >> and oh, you know, the funniest thing is

Brian AtlasI was telling the girls, I was like, "Yo, this is a security risk. Like we can't have you on the show if your [ __ ] manager is like trying to contact my family. That's so [ __ ] weird. >> That's bad."

Brian Atlas>> And then I was like, "You guys have to leave." So, we actually had, it wasn't a rage quit, but we had to kick two girls off the show. Uh, was it two weekends ago? >> Yeah, it was two weekends ago. Had to

Brian Atlaskick them out. And then the guy proceeded to text me for like the entire show. He was texting me. >> Um, and uh, my sister was freaked out, my parents were freaked out, >> rightfully so.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, cuz like who's this [ __ ] weirdo calling and [ __ ] And it's like, >> so anyways, >> it was weird. >> I recently had another experience like that. I thought it was worth sharing. >> You may need to change your number.

Brian Atlas>> No, no, no. Look, it's not that my number is out there. It's that there are certain tools that you can use where you can like you just put in somebody's name. It'll give you >> Okay. So, it doesn't like actually say your number. It just says your name and

Kellylike you're texting them. >> Well, no. You can pay for for for certain things and you can literally it's like $30 a month and you just look up someone's name and it'll show you all of their previous addresses. It'll show you all their previous phone numbers. It'll show you their job, their job

Brian Atlashistory. It'll show you everything. It'll find your social media. That's crazy. It'll pin everything. >> Yeah. So, well, so >> the internet is a crazy place. >> Yeah. So, there is Look, there's ways you can like spoof numbers or whatever,

Brian Atlasbut like to trick the caller ID. I'm not I'm not sure exactly how it works, but I know it is a thing nowadays. Apparently, >> he was a he is a bail bondsman or

Brian Atlassomething. I don't know if that's like against the Bale Bondsman rules or some [ __ ] but you know, like for example, a police officer, like if he's trying to go on a date with a girl, it's

Brian Atlastechnically like I think it's against >> their policy to like use police databases to like look that's not related to like investigating a crime.

Brian Atlasif they're just like trying to do a background check on >> uh like on some girl they're going to go on a date with. It's I guess I don't know if that's the same with Bale Bondsman. Anyway, it's [ __ ] weird. >> Mhm. >> Um

Sydney (LDS)>> well, we're sorry about that and >> it's all your fault, Malia. >> I blame you. >> It's a turned on brother, which I understand. >> I don't think it has anything to do with Norman. I think he's just a protective brother. I'm grateful for that, but I

Kellydon't know if that was one of the best ways to go. Overstepping, >> but it's overstepping. >> I It's really overstepping. I like >> cuz you're a grown woman. One, that's what I think. And then I don't know. >> Well, but two, it's Brian's podcast. He gets to run it the way he wants to run

Kellyit. >> And then the number. You found this random man's number. That's the craziest part is just finding the number. >> Freaking stalked you. >> It is. It is a bit. And then so he Let's

Brian Atlassee. Um he oh yeah I was like he says he apologizes for the direct communication and I I told him I was like this is completely inappropriate.

Brian Atlas>> And then he says I believe that my texting you personally is the least inappropriate thing that has happened in relation to the podcast tonight. I'm grateful for the opportunity that you're providing to my sister as she joins you.

Brian AtlasI was simply disappointed with the lack of intelligence and morals involved in the conversations so far. From the clips that I've seen of your show before, there had always seemed to be a higher

Jessestandard of the content and the debate. >> Clips are taken out of context. If you're not watching the whole show, you would have no idea like this. Like I don't think we've gone off topic of what you normally discuss. Well, regardless

Brian Atlasof if there's any merit to like his criticisms of the show or the panel or whatever, it's completely inappropriate to >> text like find my personal number, text

Brian Atlasit. Completely inappropriate, dude. Ban these retards in the chat. W protective brother. Okay, that's a perma ban. Um, yeah, it's never appropriate to

Brian Atlas>> It's fine to be protective. Mhm. >> It's fine to be protective, but to find my personal number and text it while I'm in the middle of a podcast,

Jessethat's completely inappropriate. There's no justification whatsoever. >> Well, that to me is not protective cuz she's not in any danger. Like, in order to be protective, you need to be in danger.

Sydney (LDS)>> He just doesn't want her to be on the top. That's a really good point. >> She doesn't want to be surrounded by like more cross language than I guess. Well, yeah, but you asked. Hold on, Sydney. You asked to be on the show.

Brian Atlas>> No, I fully recognized that I willingly came on the show. Yes, >> we talk about dating and >> we'll talk about all kinds of topics. >> Aware of this podcast and she's been on

Brian Atlasthe show before. So, this idea that oh well, this particular guest is just I I didn't expect such, you know, a kind of >> let's just say unique guest. She's been

Brian Atlason the show before and she was on a very popular episode and she had viral clips. So, this idea like, oh, you know, I don't know. >> I love the hair that happening. >> Well, but it's also like he doesn't

Jessetrust you to stand your ground and stand for your morals. Like he's thinking that we're going to change your mind and that's not the case >> and you have a different outlook on society and your views where you come from because it's so vastly different

Kellyfrom the rest of us. >> I think he also could have gone about it a different way. He could have sent a $30 TTS and told him could have told DM the Instagram. Yeah. >> Yeah. Could have DM' the Instagram like

Brian Atlasgoing and I don't think he even sent like a DM anywhere. So like he skipped over all other lines of communication. >> He went to an extreme to go to to do my

Sydney (LDS)uh cell phone. That's just >> my my number. That's weird. They're very I think they're very passionate about >> well I do believe that I do believe in

Maliamy morals completely but I don't know if it has to do with the podcast. Yeah. No, I think like your guys' morals and beliefs like they kind of stray away from a lot what's going on in our

Maliapodcast today and you guys are a very very strong religion. So I think that's hence why >> there's different values and ideas. >> Nobody's criticizing the religion. I'm making a criticism of a personal action

Brian Atlastaken that has nothing to do with the religion. It's just inappropriate >> to like skip trace somebody's phone number to like >> Yeah. >> very inappropriate.

Brian Atlas>> I know. He wanted to like call me out that bad. Like where are you? Like >> I don't know, man.

Brian Atlas>> I I don't know. Chat, what do you think? Wait, somebody Ivan having that data is privileged and to see it is one thing,

Brian Atlasbut when you use it is wrongful. >> Oh, he's talking about the bail bondsman from two weeks ago. >> Oh. Oh, >> yeah. >> It's a weird guy. >> Do you know why he would do that,

Sydney (LDS)though? I I'm just confused. >> I don't um >> Yeah. Like, do you think anything was said? >> Maybe. I My parents are very protective, too. So maybe they reached out was just like, "Hey, maybe have her come off the podcast." And >> did you tell your parents you were going on it?

Jesse>> Yeah, they're fully aware. Yes. >> But again, protective means that you're in some sense of danger. And I don't know about you, but I don't feel danger here. >> They just seem upset that you're here with people who aren't in the same share

Sydney (LDS)beliefs as you. Yeah. >> No, I think it's just the way some people behaved. >> I think it it way. Well, I just think it's a little bit more extreme than they probably expected. >> It's fun. >> So,

Sydney (LDS)>> okay. Yeah. >> Okay. >> But, but I mean, >> that's that's part of the podcast and I came on here fully understanding that, but you've watched full episodes, right? Not just clips. Okay. Okay.

Malia>> We're trying We're trying to defend this podcast and you're doing this right now. >> What? >> What? >> What? Oh, you're not you're not watching. >> Did I miss something? Yeah, she's just I missed it. I missed it.

Felicity>> She's just itching out right now. >> Just hurts so bad. My in crawl. She's ready to go. >> She's done. >> She's done. >> Inappropriate. Oh my god. Strange. >> Drink of water. >> Yeah, like I said, I don't think

Jesseanything was >> strange off the cuff compared to other episodes. >> There's been so much >> Actually, this is probably tame compared to other episodes. Honestly. >> Wait, what? Oh, yeah. This is a very I

Jessemean I've never heard you guys talk about dogs on here. At least since I've been watching like that was a new dog. I'm sorry. I'm a dog mom. I can't help it. But >> like that's why I'm saying like I think

Brian Atlasthis was way tame compared to other episodes that I've watched. >> I don't know. To me >> you think otherwise. >> I mean it was it was like a little a

Kellylittle wild but there's definitely been I don't know. It was fun. It wasn't cheated. It wasn't angry. I don't think anybody here was angry. >> My bad. >> Wait, Kelly, what do you think about the whole number thing, though?

Kelly>> What number thing? >> Like the brother texting me on my >> Oh, I think that's No, I I I'm saying this because I know how people cuz that's this shit's happened to me before. Like, this [ __ ] is weird. And I don't like that. And I think that's weird for you to go out of your way to

Kellygo and look somebody up and find a find a certain phone number to go and text them just personally without them even knowing who you are. It's like an invasion of >> and you skip the step and then it's like you're watching and then I think it's also just the fact like I feel

Kellyuncomfortable like you're literally watching us live and you're over here saying like this whole show is inappropriate and you want your sister to come off the show. Like I understand reason that >> No, I understand the protective brother. I mean maybe I don't understand cuz my

Kellybrother is not protective of me but I understand the whole protective thing but yes I I like you you're watching the show you see your sisters not in any kind of harm at all. No one's even

Maliaaround you. No one's like >> I don't think it has to do with harm. I think it has to be a little further away or something, but like >> Yeah. I think he's just disappointed of his sister.

Kelly>> Yeah. >> And the community and I it is it is inappropriate. >> That's not inappropriate. >> But with those kinds of morals and like respecting like the the the religion and

Kellyeverything. So I well I maybe okay this might sound ignorant but like in the Mormon religion is it is it like do you guys look at other people as like >> I don't know like you look at this person and you say like oh like you're

Malialike this so I'm not going to [ __ ] with you because you act like this but I mean >> all of our communities are so different and I think that's why we're so confused. >> I'm sure they were just shocked shell

Sydney (LDS)shocked by cuz it's it is more um >> Oh so you didn't prep them. Yeah, you didn't tell she didn't. >> I told my mom what podcast >> You just told them that you were going on a podcast and said, >> "Yeah, they know what podcast and they

Jessewatch some clips." But um >> Oh, well then you can't watch the clips. The clips are taken out of context. You have to watch an entire episode to know what you're getting into. >> Yeah, but the clips are more wild than the podcast.

Brian Atlas>> So, even if you even if you only watch the clips, that would give you a good sense of like, okay, what you're getting into. I don't I mean his think his big labas matter. Like >> you wear that almost every time.

Felicity>> It's true. I >> I mean it's very I'm sure good intentions but his actions were inappropriate. >> I don't think there should be accountability taken for those actions. Should be a pass just

Brian Atlas>> because I'm just saying like how about this? Like how would your brother feel if a bunch of dudes who watch this podcast skip traced you >> and started texting you? >> No. Of course you wouldn't be

Kellycomfortable with that. >> That would be that would be like a violation. >> Mhm. >> Your brother did that to me. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> You have every right >> absolutely

Brian Atlas>> to feel the way you feel in the [ __ ] >> And it's not just that the dude it's not like the dude is in [ __ ] Idaho. the

Brian Atlasdude is in like in the the vicinity >> and then that creates >> I don't know creates a >> I mean a bit of a like a safety concern.

Brian Atlas>> I'm not tripping I'm not saying I'm not tripping about it but it is like it is on our radar for security reasons. >> Mhm. I'm sorry about that. >> He's he he won't do no harm. He's >> Yeah. I'm not Look, I'm not worried

SPEAKER_07about it. >> Chill. Oh. Oh. Is this what happens after sex? >> Oh my god. >> Sorry, was it too soon? >> Cuz

Brian Atlas>> this is so long. >> Earlier for those who are just tuning in. Earlier in the show, she cries after sex. Sometimes it's during, too. All right, we're going to wrap. Um, we're going to wrap. I'm going to let the

SPEAKER_10chats come through. Sorry for the delay on these, >> guys. >> She's giving up. What just cover some of the things I wanted to talk about? >> I know. There was so much I wanted to talk about, too. >> Good show, guys. >> Yeah, >> good show.

Malia>> Wait, there was >> there was stuff there before you guys wanted to talk. >> Yeah, we were like just talking about like absolutely emptiness. Like, I feel like you'd ask questions. >> I mean, like, okay, so a big one for me

Brian Atlaswas like how >> how the internet shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Felicity, read this so I can get this. >> Interesting podcast. All ladies very

Brian Atlas>> Wait, just stop. >> Why is this so >> chill? Chill out.

Brian Atlas>> What the [ __ ] >> What the [ __ ] >> Brian, >> Nick, Nick, how do you want to proceed here? >> Nick, you're our security guard.

Brian Atlas>> Where's the security guard? >> All right. She's just Look, she's taking a breather here. Stop. Stop. Stop. Guys, be quiet. God damn. >> That's why it's going on so long. Interesting. I have had a Yorkshire pudding. Never. >> Shut up. Let Felicity read. Godamn.

Felicity>> I was answering his question. >> It has to be red first. >> All ladies, very feminine. Still had opinions. Chair one, you chair one. You ever had a Yorkshire pudding? I made for

SPEAKER_09Brits a long time ago. >> Yeah, that um hold on. night on the >> um

Brian Atlasdo we have a blanket we could give her or something?

SPEAKER_00>> Yeah. >> Did you read the whole thing from Avon? >> Yeah. >> Okay, Avon. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. >> Should I answer?

SPEAKER_00>> Selena donated $29.99 items. One total $29.99

SPEAKER_00MSG. Great show tonight. W Brian W. Andrew W whatever. >> Uh thank you Avon. We'll come back to

SPEAKER_00Have you ever had Yorkshshire pudding? >> Yeah, they're really good. They're yummy. >> Okay. >> Huh? >> They're yummy. >> Yeah, >> they're yummy. >> They're my

SPEAKER_00>> um Okay. Hasty George donated $20. I was actually hoping to hear more talking from chair 4. Instead, we had to hear many madeup

SPEAKER_00stories from chairs one and two who are just posers.

Brian Atlas>> Um, well, thank you. I'm glad that you appreciate what I say. >> All right. Thank you, Pacey George. Appreciate it. You have had Yorkshire pudding. Did I miss that part?

SPEAKER_00Uh, okay. Thank you, Avon, for the membership. We have Desert George.

SPEAKER_00>> Desert George donated $20. Sure, good women do exist in the West. We call them unicorns. Dot, you know, the mythical exquisite creature that doesn't really exist. >> A unicorn means something else.

SPEAKER_00>> That's unfortunate. >> Aan Marlo donated $30. >> Already read this >> interesting podcast. All ladies very feminine still had various opinions. Chair one, you ever had Yorkshire

SPEAKER_00pudding? I made for Brits a long time ago. Hasty George donated $20. While I do not agree with cell phone spoofing, I

SPEAKER_00totally agree with what happened to the Tapp leak. LFAO. >> Yeah, >> I had an epiphany. I'm wondering if that happened when >> your XD donated $20. If he's unwilling

SPEAKER_00and afraid to allow you to confront immorality where it lives, then he's being a coward. We don't care about your convictions if you are too cowardly fight for them. >> Edge Walker 100 donated 20.

SPEAKER_00>> Thank you, Ch. Appreciate it. >> Might be hard to find a husband with that level of weird following you around. >> Is that to me >> or? No, I don't think so. >> Okay. >> I'm pretty sure that's to to you,

Brian AtlasSydney. >> Oh, was it? Yeah. >> Or I mean maybe it applies to any of the girls on the panel. I don't know. >> Uh Daniel, thank you.

SPEAKER_00>> A Marlo donated $19. Interesting. >> All ladies very feminine. Still have opinions. >> Share one. You ever had Yorkshire pudding? I made for Brits a long time

SPEAKER_00ago. >> I like Yorkshire pudding. >> Tasty George donated $20. We're going to let these >> I think the chair for's parents were concerned about their daughter being

SPEAKER_00around and feminism infected women. If I had kids, especially a daughter, I wouldn't want them around my children either.

Sydney (LDS)>> Not super donated $20. Some people need some help. >> Um, to respond to the Mormons weird question, I think different doesn't

Sydney (LDS)define weird. I think that we just have high morals and high standards that sometimes isn't found in normal society. So just because it's different doesn't mean it's weird. >> Vector donated $30.

SPEAKER_00>> Thank you, Vector. >> Brian, I have it on full faith that Chair Six's brother is dangerous. In fact, her brother is a big bull. >> No, that's your son. >> Uh, okay. You, Sydney, you had something

Brian Atlasyou wanted to address or whatever. >> Oh, um, I dressed the weird one, but I think that was it. >> That was it. Okay. All right, guys. Uh we are going to wrap the show. Excuse me. Wrap the show.

Brian Atlas>> Uh we're just going to we're just going to wrap. Uh okay. So, uh I'd like to end the show by seeing actually whatever. Uh would you consider stopping sex work?

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Take my glasses off for this one. >> Oh my god. We don't need the We don't need the >> No. No. I would not consider stopping sex work right now. We We don't need the uh >> the story. >> Oh my I'm so tired. I can't even think straight right now.

Brian Atlas>> That's okay. >> We don't need the preamble. That There it is. Don't need the preamble. Um Oh, we didn't do the [ __ ] makeup.

Brian Atlas>> Ah, [ __ ] It doesn't We don't need to do it. Doesn't matter. Um okay. GG. Hold on. GG. >> Well played >> to the panel. Thank you guys for coming. Appreciate it. Last call. Hit the like button, please. On your way out. Also,

Brian Atlasplease leave a nice comment. Once the live ends, I read them. Positivity is nice and it helps the algorithm. Thank you for tuning in tonight. You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me. I appreciate that.

Brian AtlasThank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show. We are viewer supported. We uh we couldn't do it without you guys. We don't we've done like three spons three, four

Brian Atlassponsorships. Uh a lot of our stuff gets demonetized. So, we are viewer supported. really appreciate all the support, guys. Couldn't do it without you. Uh, we will be live again Sunday at 5:00 PM Pacific.

Brian AtlasI think we have a good guest coming through, but it's a bit on the fence. We'll see. But we do have a good panel. In any case, any girls who want to be on the show, DM whatever on Instagram. If you can make

Brian Atlasit to Santa Barbara. I want to see 07s in the chat. 07's in the chat, guys. It was a fun stream. And uh, thank you guys

Brian Atlasso much for tuning in. Y O Okay, 07's in the chat, guys. Good night and we will see you guys next time. Good night, guys.

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