TANTRUM?! CRASH OUT?! Goth Girl Psych Ward DATING?! BPD Bipolar Girl LOSES IT?! | Dating Talk #258

Date: 2025-09-01
Duration: 7h 45m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_03Carmen (Arson)(guest)
SPEAKER_04Kelly(guest)
SPEAKER_05Malia(guest)
SPEAKER_06Jesse(guest)
SPEAKER_08Sydney (LDS)(guest)
SPEAKER_11Chloe (UK Goth)(guest)
SPEAKER_13Felicity(guest)

Key Moments

00:03:29
IntroAll guests introduced
00:56:47
Key MomentChloe: psych ward 3 times, ~5 years total. 4-5 suicide attempts.
01:03:40
Key MomentCarmen: robbed 3-4 clients on ketamine from Seeking Arrangement
01:44:38
ControversyCarmen: slept with ~3 homeless men including one from a mission
01:59:03
ControversyCarmen's father put her on birth control at 13. Brian flags as potentially abusive.
03:27:34
Key MomentCarmen photoshopped fake herpes results and pointed gun on FaceTime
06:59:48
Key MomentSydney gifts Brian a Book of Mormon
07:19:42
ControversySydney's brother skip-traced Brian's personal phone during live show

Topics Discussed

00:03:29
Guest Introductions

Chloe (goth/psych ward), Carmen (bipolar/BPD/former sex worker), Sydney (LDS/virgin), Jesse (married/child-free).

00:56:47
Chloe's Psych Ward History

3 admissions, ~5 years total. Self-harm. Suicide attempts. Snuck out to date.

01:03:40
Carmen's Sex Work/Robbery History

Seeking Arrangement $8K/month. Robbed clients on ketamine. Homeless men. Blood play ER visit.

01:55:00
Carmen's Father Enabling

Put her on birth control at 13. Gave the talk about masturbation at ~10.

06:06:00
Pit Bull Debate

Kelly defends pit bull Bashy. CDC stats: 66% of fatal attacks.

07:19:42
Sydney's Brother Skip-Traces Brian

Brother found Brian's personal phone number during live show and texted asking to remove Sydney.

Transcript

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00:59:09
Chloe (UK Goth)anti-anxiety, and then to help me sleep. >> Right. >> Cuz I don't sleep too good. >> When When's the last time you were in the psychord? >> Actually, quite a while ago when I was 19. So,
00:59:22
Brian Atlas>> okay. So, it's been seven years. >> Yeah. So, you've made some improvement. Very proud. I don't actually think he's proud of me, guys. Clip that. >> Well, I mean, I'm not saying that in a mocking way. I I think it's a good thing
00:59:35
Brian Atlasif people have been struggling with things that they can have some semblance of improvement. So I genuinely wish you well in that.
00:59:46
Chloe (UK Goth)>> Well, okay, you're not going to take it >> politely, but no, I I'm just like so self-deprecating. Oh, >> okay. >> I love it. >> Um and uh >> three times you were in there total for
01:00:00
Chloe (UK Goth)five years. >> Yeah. Did you? >> So I basically spent all of my teenage years in the psych ward. >> Did you date in the psych ward? >> Not other people in the psych ward, but I did date whilst I was there and I was >> people outside. >> Yeah.
01:00:14
Chloe (UK Goth)>> Okay. >> And they were not good people. >> Not good people. >> Yeah. >> Do you have your phone in there? >> In two of them, you weren't allowed your phone, which was absolute
01:00:25
Chloe (UK Goth)It was a nightmare. Can you imagine? We were all like 16. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It just sucks. No outside communication. You literally had a TV
01:00:35
Chloe (UK Goth)and that was it. Awful. >> Were there any like hell of funny people you met? >> Yeah. One time somebody sat in a teapot and we
01:00:47
Chloe (UK Goth)had to have a community meeting to talk about who shot in the teapot, but nobody would own up to it. So then we weren't allowed to go on our trip on Friday because we'd been bad and they had to
01:00:59
SPEAKER_00spend the money on a new teapot. >> Damn. Did you find out who it was? >> No, we never found out. >> Pass George donated $200. Chair four. Basically, the chat is
01:01:10
SPEAKER_00mostly saying based Mormon for being a virgin, wanting a husband and children, and not being a 304 like most Western women who are infected with feminism. >> Your response? >> I think it's okay to be normal. I think
01:01:23
Carmen (Arson)it's okay to want traditional values. So, I hope the chat supports that. >> I think it's okay as long as you're not like judging other people who have as long as you're not judging other people for like whatever life they want
01:01:37
Brian Atlasto live, you know? >> Well, I still believe in the freedom of choice. I just think that there is um better choices. >> All right. Uh okay. So, going back to
01:01:47
Brian Atlasyou, uh, Chloe, you, uh, you would go out, you used to sneak out the psychward going it's, um, you got kicked out of the psychord. >> I got kicked out the psychord.
01:01:57
Brian Atlas>> Um, you said you, I guess, moving off off of the psych ward stuff. You traveled 4 hours to meet a boy you met on TikTok who kept calling you autistic in a bad way.
01:02:08
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> From So, from London to where >> was he? Was he a Scousea? What >> does that mean? >> Yeah, >> he was a scouse. How did I [ __ ] It's not in the notes, boys. I just guessed that
01:02:21
Chloe (UK Goth)[ __ ] >> Yeah. No, he actually What is that? >> It's just It's like a part in the >> chicken. How do they say? What is it? Chicken and coke. >> Sheckch. >> I'm not very good. I don't >> Yeah. >> Do it. The chicken and coke. How do you
01:02:34
Chloe (UK Goth)do it? >> No, I'm say it. Come on. You got this. All right. Whatever. >> Uh, but so you traveled to Liverpool then? >> No, no, no. Not I Where was it? like Manchester. >> Okay. Wait, >> I don't know how
01:02:46
Brian Atlas>> Scar is Liverpool, isn't it? >> They're all the same to me. I live in London. >> Okay. Northern. Okay. All right. Um >> I'm >> So Manchester, you traveled four hours to meet him. >> Yeah. >> What kind of content did he make?
01:02:59
Chloe (UK Goth)>> Just like thirst trap boy star. >> Like he was a dancer. Like he did a little >> No, like >> lame ass Tik Tok dances. >> You you you know the kind of boy that I'm talking about.
01:03:12
Chloe (UK Goth)I've been disassociating. I'm not going to lie. >> Fair enough. >> What the [ __ ] >> Just like I I guess like outfit videos to like songs or like I don't know. Just
01:03:22
Chloe (UK Goth)like first trappy. >> Okay. How did that Did you Was it that a onetime thing or >> No, it wasn't a one time thing. I put
01:03:33
Chloe (UK Goth)myself through it like seven times. >> Did he ever drive to see you? No, I don't think he drove. >> Every single every single time we met in
01:03:44
Chloe (UK Goth)a different place in the UK. >> I would Oh, >> it's okay. You went to him? >> No, we both met somewhere in the UK. >> Okay. Interesting. All right. >> And >> how many followers did he have?
01:03:57
Chloe (UK Goth)>> I don't know. >> You said this is famous Tik Tok. >> No, I didn't say it was a famous Tik Tok. I just Tik Tok. I met him on Tik Tok. >> You met him on Tik Tok? That is correct. Well, I assume so. is not >> I don't know. He had like 40k or
01:04:10
Chloe (UK Goth)something. Oh, damn. >> All right, that's fair. >> Uh, was it Bivo? >> Yeah, obviously he's terrifying. Bivo, >> you've met him? >> No, he scares me. >> We've had him on the podcast. >> Have you actually? >> Yeah,
01:04:23
Brian Atlas>> he I mean besides >> Sorry, Bivo. You're a freak. >> I mean, I thought it was kind of entertaining to have him on. I mean, anyways, that's the type of conversation. Um, you said going to a
01:04:35
Brian Atlasbar for a drink isn't a date. It's an addiction and show far as how removed you are from your feelings that you need to use something aka alcohol to cope. >> Uh serial daters aren't in love with
01:04:47
Brian Atlaslove. You said alternative men hate alternative women. They don't want to date them. They just want to have fun with them. They want to date basic girls so they are the one that looks cool. >> Why does that happen every time? It's
01:05:00
Chloe (UK Goth)crazy. >> It's just the way it is. I think they don't like
01:05:07
Chloe (UK Goth)I don't know they want I don't even know brain off help my alternative counterpart. Yeah. No, I've
01:05:19
Carmen (Arson)also experienced that as well. I was just telling her how like I asked this dude to date me and then he was like, "I'm not dating right now." And then a week later when I hit him up, he's
01:05:30
Carmen (Arson)dating some girl. And I look at the girl and she's like completely just like, you know, like normal and stuff. And I was like, "That's so interesting cuz I thought you would like someone like more
01:05:40
Carmen (Arson)like me." And but at the end of the day, I do realize I probably am a problem in a lot of ways. So, and that's why I've been working on myself a lot. But, >> well, I you know what? Look, I don't
01:05:53
Brian Atlaswant to paint with too broad of a brush, but I think people who tend to be attracted or tend to be drawn to more alternative subcultures or whatnot. It's not always
01:06:05
Brian Atlasthe case. Some people do it strictly for some sort of aesthetic, but often times it's the case. These people disproportionately have various traumas. They have mental illnesses. I'm not
01:06:16
Brian Atlassaying this is an attack or an insult, but you know, for for you know, it is something that is studied and I >> and I see proof. No, I know I know it's true, but I'd like to see you pull up
01:06:29
Brian Atlasproof >> uh just because there's a study I mean I could cite to at least like for example people who have uh tattoos. It is an indicator of you know certain things.
01:06:41
Brian AtlasUm, typically tattoos are associated with more alternative lifestyle or alternative subculture, this sort of thing. Uh, I think though perhaps why it's the reason why alternative men
01:06:52
Brian Atlasstruggle to date alternative women >> because they want to date their mom. >> Hold on. >> I highly doubt this, but I think it's very difficult.
01:07:03
Brian AtlasLet's say they're flawed individuals and they have what baggage, whatever. It's very difficult for two [ __ ] up people to date. It's It's hard enough for like
01:07:15
Brian Atlasa mostly welladjusted person to date a [ __ ] up person, but two [ __ ] up people dating, that's like that is compounding
01:07:26
Brian Atlasthe potential uh opportunity for conflict in a relationship. So, it's like I don't know. I think I mean it can go that way often. So, I mean, look, this
01:07:38
Brian Atlasisn't a monolith here. There are definitely people who are [ __ ] up, who look who who seek out someone else who's [ __ ] up because, you know, you could I guess you could look at it from both
01:07:50
Carmen (Arson)dimensions, but >> yeah, I would disagree. I would say that's when it's like the most magical, like when you're both the same amount of [ __ ] up like, and you bond over that. That's like such a sacred bond. and I have been in a long-term relationship.
01:08:03
Brian AtlasSo, I know there will be someone who can take all my [ __ ] upness and accept me no matter what. >> Well, so I'm not speaking in a mon monolith here. So, of course, two people who are [ __ ] up this they date all the time.
01:08:15
Brian Atlas>> But I'm saying that I think maybe one of the reasons is it's difficult for a [ __ ] up person to date another [ __ ] up person. That's a lot of [ __ ] up to be dealing with. >> So, they perhaps I mean, look, >> you don't have to be alternative to be
01:08:29
Chloe (UK Goth)[ __ ] up, though. >> I agree. And then also I I have a standpoint more of that if you are [ __ ] up, no matter if you're alternative or not, whatever you are, >> probably shouldn't be in a relationship.
01:08:41
Chloe (UK Goth)>> Yeah, that's why go work on yourself. Like don't That's what I mean by like you're not in love. You You're not in love. You're in love with the idea of wanting to be in love and then putting that onto someone else. >> Have you worked on yourself?
01:08:54
Chloe (UK Goth)>> Yeah, I've been in I've been in therapy for about 12 years. Oh, okay. >> I've done every type of >> therapy. Yeah, I guess I agree. But let's
01:09:06
Brian AtlasYou shouldn't date if you're [ __ ] up, but people invariably date when they're [ __ ] up. >> Yeah. And then they wonder why the results are bad. >> Yeah. I mean, I think it's natural.
01:09:18
Carmen (Arson)Like, you have to go through the course of realizing you're too [ __ ] up to be dating and you got to try it out and have those trial and errors. And then once you have the realization like oh I'm the problem then you can start like
01:09:31
Brian Atlasto work on yourself. So I would say you could you know it's both >> word. Okay. Uh let's see here if we have any Oh Spyro did a raid. Uh thank you Spyro.
01:09:43
Brian AtlasI don't know. Uh all right. Is there anything else? >> You think that alternative men >> won't date alternative women because they want to date their moms? I mean,
01:09:56
Chloe (UK Goth)>> really, that's the reason >> there's always a little bit of that in the back of everyone's head, right? That's what >> they want to >> I've heard people say that too.
01:10:08
Chloe (UK Goth)>> It's just like too far removed from someone that they can envision in their head as like controlling them. >> That's actually like a psych like what psychologist famous psychologist said that I forgot his name. Yeah, Freud. He was he literally like had a whole study about that [ __ ] So,
01:10:22
Chloe (UK Goth)>> word, >> it got to be real somewhere. got the study. Um, going into >> just a bop. I told you I know things. Not very useful things, but I know things. >> She knows. She drinks and she knows
01:10:35
Brian Atlasthings. >> I'm sober. Actually, >> Game of Thrones quote. Never mind. >> Uh, Carmen, you >> Yeah, >> actually, you know what? Let's start with your new notes.
01:10:46
Brian AtlasNew notes from Carmen, otherwise known as arson, otherwise known as definitely not lighting trap houses on fire on the weekends. >> I would never do that.
01:10:58
Brian Atlas>> Never would do that. You wrote Oh, sorry. Okay. Found it. You are still living the female life. That female life. >> So, you're a female,
01:11:10
Carmen (Arson)>> I would say. So, I would say I very much so don't like men because they they really don't make no sense to me. >> You don't like men? >> Wait, what's the difference between female and lesbian? >> Female is when you don't like men.
01:11:24
Chloe (UK Goth)>> You just don't like >> you like you like >> That's not really what I mean. >> You like Okay, then what is it? Can you take this? >> You choose to not have sex because you don't want to have sex. >> Let's just think about the terms the
01:11:37
Carmen (Arson)terms here. Okay. >> Incel. Yeah. involuntary like I've I've seen what like incel is is like they they talk [ __ ] about women and stuff because they can't get no woman. You're a fem person who is involuntary.
01:11:50
Chloe (UK Goth)>> Incel incel is uh it stands for involuntarily celibate. >> Yeah. >> So a female would be a woman to have you. Nobody wants to have sex with you
01:12:01
Brian Atlas>> despite despite your desire and efforts to get laid. You can't get laid. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, a female would be an a female involuntarily celibate. >> It's more like
01:12:13
Carmen (Arson)>> you're celibate. I feel >> like every time I try to have sex like I cry a lot afterwards and like I I like have like full on breakdowns like I'll like like literally in the bed next to
01:12:25
Brian Atlasthem like I'll just start being like you know. Whoa. So like >> like act are you exaggerating or actual? >> I'm not exaggerating. That's >> so Wait, you just
01:12:35
Carmen (Arson)Do you Is it cuz you do you or do you not climax? >> You usually I use my vibrator so that way like it's like >> I don't know why that mattered. But
01:12:46
Carmen (Arson)anyways, u I So, okay. You just had cuz maybe I was like maybe the sex was really bad and that's why you're crying. Um >> it's more like I I wish I could feel
01:12:56
Carmen (Arson)something for them. Like I feel empty. >> Yes. I just feel so empty and like I wanted so to feel something. >> You're a vampire. There's nothing there.
01:13:08
Carmen (Arson)>> So you're an empty husk. Nothing. You feel nothing. >> I mean I feel like >> Do you feel disappointment? Like the sex was trash and you're like damn. >> It has nothing to do with like the sex
01:13:19
Carmen (Arson)really. But I like I do it I do the sex in hopes that I will feel that connection. But it's like it never happens because I don't know. No, there's there's a cage around my heart. But
01:13:30
Carmen (Arson)>> but yeah, and so like I'll just like have a full on meltdown and be like, I don't like you. Get out of here. And then like >> you you kick the guy out like you hit it like you kick them out right after sex
01:13:42
Brian Atlas>> usually. Well, it depends if if they're like >> you're like a dude. >> You're like a guy. Holy [ __ ] >> Yeah. >> The guy's like trying to cuddle you and [ __ ] Some nice alt boy is like, "Oh, can we cuddle?" You're like, "No, get
01:13:55
Carmen (Arson)the [ __ ] out." It depends. If they're acting like they like me, then that's when I do that. But if they act like they don't like me, then I want them to stay. >> Wait, so how many times have you cried after sex?
01:14:07
Carmen (Arson)>> Well, I don't even I haven't even counted every time. >> A lot of times >> more than a dozen. >> I would say a lot. I don't know if I've counted, but it's been a lot.
01:14:17
Carmen (Arson)>> When's the last time you cried after sex? Last night. >> No, I I wasn't date. I didn't date it. Honestly, not recently. I haven't had like a lot of I mean that's a lie.
01:14:29
Carmen (Arson)>> When was the last time you cried? >> Honestly, ever since like I haven't been crying recently. I've honestly been doing a lot better because like I live with like a bunch of my friends now. So if I start crying, they immediately come
01:14:41
Carmen (Arson)into my room and they're like, "Love, love, love." And then I stop throwing my pillows around and stop trying to stab the walls and stuff. But like, so like they they make me feel better instantly, you know?
01:14:53
Carmen (Arson)So, I wouldn't even count like those times, but like so like I would say it's not been for like seven months that I've really had like a full on like freak out. >> Wait, have you been celibate for 7 months?
01:15:04
Carmen (Arson)>> I wouldn't say I've been celibate, but I've been getting better at like not giving a [ __ ] Like I've been getting better at like I could like [ __ ] somebody and then be like I ghost them right after. >> Wait, you're getting better? That's
01:15:18
Carmen (Arson)better to you? >> Yes. Because before I used to be like so like if I [ __ ] somebody then I'm like I need you to date me now. And like now I can just be like do those I'm the man. I feel like I got a dick. Like my dick
01:15:30
Carmen (Arson)bigger than your dick. And so like peace. But like and nobody even cares cuz that's like dating culture now. >> And also it feels empowering. It feels empowering to me when I can do that.
01:15:42
Carmen (Arson)>> Are you suggesting that you've completely numbed yourself out to sex and relationships? >> I mean not love in general. I feel a lot of love for my friends. I feel a lot of spiritual love. So, I have a lot of love
01:15:53
Kellyand love for myself, but love for men. Yeah. No, cancel that. >> So, the crying when you're when you like said that you were like crying after you have sex, is that with men or women? >> I wish I could have sex with women, but
01:16:05
Sydney (LDS)unfortunately I'm not gay. >> I see. Okay. So, >> unfortunately, it's so loud. >> Wouldn't loving yourself actually want to treat yourself better and not put
01:16:15
Carmen (Arson)yourself through an emotional experience like that? and ruin a potentially very good thing. >> Loving myself meant being okay with being alone. Cuz for so long, like if I was alone, I've had so much anxiety. I
01:16:29
Carmen (Arson)want to [ __ ] kill myself. I want to like I want to do like I just think about dying over and over and over whenever I'm alone. And so learning how to love myself meant like spending
01:16:40
Carmen (Arson)enough time alone and doing like so much mental work. And like every night I'm like watching Buddhism videos. Every night I'm like I'm like trying to watch hypnosis videos. Every night I'm like
01:16:52
Carmen (Arson)learning, studying. I'm going to school for psychology. I'm doing all this stuff to try to better my mental so I'm okay with being in my own skin. >> Well, the part that confuses me if like maybe you could just explain a little is
01:17:04
Jesselike you said that you felt empty and that's why you were crying after sex, but now you're like I'm trying to disassociate from it and not have any emotional connections. So that to me is emptiness and why you would be feeling
01:17:18
Carmen (Arson)that way. >> So it's it was it's a fact of embracing the thing that I was so scared of. Like that's why honestly I feel like I do a lot of things that scare me because when I do that it's it it fulfills this part
01:17:31
Carmen (Arson)of me of this fear I have >> gets you past it. >> Yes. On if I can embrace that fear and become it fully then I'm not scared anymore. >> What kind of things are you doing that
01:17:42
Carmen (Arson)you're scared of? Um, you know, not too much anymore. I was that was like a lot of stuff I was doing in the past. But honestly, a lot of stuff I was scared of is just like
01:17:53
Carmen (Arson)even moving here and coming here, you know, like it took leaving my whole life, my whole family, not coming here with any money. I was like, you know, like couch hopping at first, like, you
01:18:04
Carmen (Arson)know, doing things where I didn't know what was going to happen to me. Going to men's houses that I didn't know was going to happen to me. But once I did it and realized I'm going to be okay. I'm going to be okay no matter what like
01:18:16
Carmen (Arson)because the universe takes care of kind people and um so yeah, just doing anything and everything I'm scared of. Even even stuff like going to school or like going to work every single day like
01:18:28
Sydney (LDS)like Yeah. >> What about you crying after having sex was scary to you? Like what what was it that that was scary? You know, it wish I
01:18:38
Carmen (Arson)wish I knew the real indepth part, but I think just like when you're bipolar and have BPD, your emotions are on 10, you know, like and maybe a normal person would feel like a little bit, but
01:18:49
Carmen (Arson)because of like some sort of stuff from your childhood past, maybe you or even just genetically like I felt so much emotion in that point of time, so much anxiety, like it's just coming out.
01:19:02
Sydney (LDS)Would you be willing to Would you be willing to concede that that emotion surge of emotion might be because you weren't confident that what you were doing was good because you kept on trying to fill the emptiness with more empty sex?
01:19:15
Carmen (Arson)>> Mhm. Yeah, I was definitely looking for love in all the wrong spot. For sure. >> I agree. >> You think it was like a form of self harm? >> Uh >> like sex, meaningless sex.
01:19:27
Carmen (Arson)>> I don't think sex in inherently is self harm. I think it's just as natural as blinking and farting. You know what I'm saying? >> I mean like for you. >> But for me, um I don't No, because I wouldn't say I
01:19:39
Carmen (Arson)regret any of the things I've done in my life ever because they make me who I am and I wouldn't and I love who I am. So So even if I've done mistakes in the
01:19:50
Carmen (Arson)past, I like acted certain types of way, I just forgive myself every time because I'm >> Do you regret robbing people? >> No. I mean, if I had robbed nice, kind people, I would have regretted that. But
01:20:02
Carmen (Arson)these men were crusty. Musty, dusty, crusty cretins. >> How long did you talk to them for them? >> Usually I hit them up like the day before and then I'm there or like the
01:20:13
Carmen (Arson)weekend. I don't know. Not too long. But girl, these men were like if you're paying women to have sex, that in itself is a crime. So it's like crime to crime. So it's like
01:20:25
Carmen (Arson)>> that's a fair point. So, you didn't really know them? >> No, not at all. >> Would you cry when you had sex with them? Like >> I would cry in the Uber there, but once I have the money in hand on the way back, I'm like,
01:20:37
Carmen (Arson)>> "Are you sure it's not like a form of self harm?" >> Cuz I know that people with uh borderline personality disorder sometimes they'll I mean, sure, if you want to call it that, I don't mind calling it that, but like it was just
01:20:49
Carmen (Arson)work. this is like what I was doing for income at the time because I didn't I didn't I was trying to get a job but it doesn't work like you can't like immediately get a job you know so I was really like only trying to do it to survive I didn't have any money I didn't
01:21:02
Carmen (Arson)have anybody to give me money and I didn't have any way to like live so I just had to make money ASAP you know and I just asked my friends guys I have no money I don't know what to do and they're like I know a guy who could give
01:21:14
Carmen (Arson)you money so it's like you know what I'm saying so but now that I've had time to apply and get a job I would rather their work because I I didn't like crying in the Uber on the way there. Some girls
01:21:24
Sydney (LDS)are very strong, you know? I'm a [ __ ] So, I just wasn't able to continue to do that. >> So, you put yourself through emotional turmoil just for the sake of money. I mean, there's always a way to make money
01:21:35
Carmen (Arson)without compromising morals. No, I definitely did it because so like when you have bipolar disorder, so a part of it is that you your fight or flight is like it's like ready to go a lot and but
01:21:48
Carmen (Arson)you're sitting down, you're being still so you feel like anxious and so like a lot of times I would do dangerous things to match how I feel inside and then it
01:21:57
Carmen (Arson)would make sense to me as to why I was feeling so amped up and so like I did it to match my reality, right? It's called cognitive dissonance. >> Mhm.
01:22:08
Sydney (LDS)>> Once you I feel like maybe having maturity, emotional maturity would be able to have those emotions and not act out in such rash ways is have the emotional. >> Yeah. Yeah. And also being able to
01:22:21
Chloe (UK Goth)actually >> feel the emotion and sit with the emotion and not do anything to try and push it away. >> That's what I practice. >> Oh yeah. That's cognitive dissency.
01:22:30
Chloe (UK Goth)>> But I do I did have to go through Seven, eight, nine years of doing it the other way
01:22:40
Chloe (UK Goth)to even care enough about myself to want to do it in a different way. >> I have a question for you. Have you ever and excuse me if this is rude. Have you ever been medicated?
01:22:51
Carmen (Arson)>> Oh yeah, for sure. For sure. >> And were you medicated when you were doing sex work? >> Uh, kind of. I was like really bad at taking it. So like
01:23:03
Carmen (Arson)not really. But also they had put me on like the craziest most like heavy dose stuff where like if I took it I was like a robot. I didn't think any thoughts. But now I'm on like a very low dose. And
01:23:14
Carmen (Arson)I think it it's because I was so bad at taking it that it wasn't working. But now that I've been taking it for a long time, I feel a lot better. >> You feel more stable now. >> Yeah. >> That's good. >> I mean that makes sense. Your brain is
01:23:26
Jesselike the most powerful thing and you can convince yourself of anything. So if you're not right there, >> so many other things follow that. >> That's so true. >> If you cuz I know you said earlier, you were telling us how like you sucked at Only Fans, which
01:23:39
Kelly>> Oh yeah. >> Okay. If you were like really good at it though, like let's say like you were hopping on Only Fans, would you quit your job now? >> [ __ ] I might have honestly because like
01:23:50
Carmen (Arson)I'm so ADHD, bro. Like that's that stuff was like it was just I don't know actually no money is a motivator I probably would have kept doing it. I don't know. I can't say for sure. >> Both. >> No. Right. >> What I thought was you got shouted out
01:24:02
Carmen (Arson)by Elon Musk so your popularity had have gone up which >> No, it didn't. I didn't even notice the new followers. >> Yeah. What was that? >> It was like oh do you think white people can be racist or some [ __ ] And then I was like oh no. It was like do you think
01:24:15
Carmen (Arson)you're being racist towards white people? And I was like no. And then Elon Musk was like, "Oh, but white people were slaves first." And I was like, "Nobody really cares though." >> I mean, that is true though. >> What?
01:24:28
Carmen (Arson)>> Nobody really cares though. >> Yeah. Think about it. If you if you're in a room and you say like white people are slaves first, I doubt anyone's going to be like, "I'm so sorry." You know what I mean? Like, >> well, we're in the United States. I don't think
01:24:40
Jesse>> Well, it's probably because we don't care about >> Wait, so hold on. Um >> yeah, they they were like a small portion. >> They were >> everyone's like every race has. So it
01:24:54
Brian Atlaslike >> wouldn't you think white >> wouldn't that point towards a privilege >> if black people complain about the racism that they experience
01:25:04
Carmen (Arson)and it gets cared about? Wouldn't that point towards a sort of privilege? But >> but look at all the [ __ ] that they be having to go through in ghettos. In ghettos that's primarily black. Like all
01:25:17
Carmen (Arson)that [ __ ] stemmed from [ __ ] slavery, but like yeah, there's white people in ghettos, too, but like it's just not as much statistically. You know what I'm saying? >> I strongly disagree with that. I feel like you end up in life where you are
01:25:28
Jessebased on your choices. Everybody has a choice every single day to do all different things. Like the family that I came from, I don't feel as though my life reflects how I grew up. So it's it's choices.
01:25:41
Carmen (Arson)>> I mean, everybody has their own resiliency. You know, I see the same thing like especially in my new job now. I see kids who like you have come from these broken homes and they're like, I want to be better. I want to be doing this. But there's a lot of kids that who also are like I'm I'm fighting. I'm this
01:25:54
Jesseand that. >> Well, it goes one of two ways, right? You either see how your parents are in the life that you're living and you either follow the path or you say this is not what I want and you go the opposite direction. It is really hard
01:26:05
Kellythough for a lot of those kids that are coming from households and to go that opposite direction because all that they're seeing is one thing. So it's really hard for them to go and seek that help cuz they don't they everything that they're doing right now they think is
01:26:18
Kellyright. So that's why I would say >> it's not impossible though. >> No, of course it's not impossible. A lot of people >> Yeah, it is the American dream. But a lot of people are >> a lot of people are born into families where they are set back way more set
01:26:30
Sydney (LDS)back than a lot of other people. But we believe in um we don't believe in equity. So >> if if you believe in equity then that would make sense that that line of thinking but because we believe in
01:26:41
Sydney (LDS)equality and uh not starting from the same point but the end goal is the same point. >> Yeah. >> You shouldn't booster somebody who yes may be less privileged but that's their choice to rise above. >> Okay. Then let me ask you a question. Do
01:26:53
Kellyyou think it's more respectable about of someone who was born a millionaire to end up with still a million dollars or somebody who was born with zero dollars and ends up with a million dollars? >> Will you restate the question? >> What's more respectable? Somebody who
01:27:05
Kellywas >> who worked for and earned it for someone who inherited it? >> Not that's not my specific question. My my specific question is what's more respectable? somebody who was born with a million dollars and died with a
01:27:18
Sydney (LDS)million dollars or somebody who was born with zero dollars and died with a million dollars in their bank account. >> Well, the person was born with a million dollars still had to work to keep the million dollars. So, yes, the person who was less fortunate had to work, I would
01:27:31
Sydney (LDS)say, harder to get to the point. >> So, which is more respectable is the question. >> I don't I think it's respectable that they both both worked hard. I think it is very respectable that somebody did work from poverty all the way to a million dollars. That's absolutely fabulous.
01:27:45
Kelly>> Do you think they worked harder or do you think they worked less? >> Probably harder. Yeah. >> Yeah, that's Yeah, but that's what I'm that's that was kind of my point is just that this these kids for you guys to say that oh like well just because this person yeah they had a harder life well they should have made the right
01:27:57
Kellydecision. It is harder for a lot of other people to make the harder decision to make that decision. So >> work harder. It's harder for you to make that decision, but you still chose to make that decision. Whether
01:28:10
Kelly>> Well, what is this kid going to do if they can't pay for their if they can't pay for the food on their table? >> Is that kid that kid you you're just going to You think that kid should make the cognitive decision to go and mow some lawns and so that they can get $8 so that they can pay for their dinner.
01:28:22
Kelly>> Child, of course not. But >> that's what I'm That's what I'm saying. So, calls on the parents, but again, okay, we're saying that they have bad parents. That's >> right. Well, I I think that you guys aren't understanding. There's so many bad parents out there. parents that are drug dealers, parents that are
01:28:35
Kellyprostitutes, parents that are hookers. There's all these parents that I know so many people that I've had parents and like they grew up in these situations and it's so sad to see and look back at it because there's so many things. Yeah, they could have made a better decision.
01:28:48
KellyThey she could My I have a friend, her mom's a stripper and she's always been like [ __ ] up or whatever what everybody else would say is [ __ ] up, but she is still at the end of the day she was really nice, but at the I look at her and I'm just like, dude, I didn't
01:29:01
Kellyknow she became a prostitute. And then once I saw her and I was like it it it makes sense cuz her mom was a was a stripper her whole her whole life. What other direction is she supposed to take when her her sister's a prostitute and her mom's a stripper? >> So the other direction that you could
01:29:13
Jessetake is there are many different things in many communities that help children in bad homes. >> How is that child supposed to know where to go? And how is that child supposed to know that there are things that >> I think they have to have like at least
01:29:25
Chloe (UK Goth)one good influence. Yes, somebody had to have been an influence in their life. >> And that is why some people, >> how is the child even meant to know that what they're going through is wrong? >> They have nothing else. >> That's how you're totally right. Cuz
01:29:38
Sydney (LDS)those kids who have a mentor, those are the kids that really do make it out from poverty. It's the ones who have a mentor. >> That's the whole point of having a community. That's the whole point of having um community specifically looking out for children. We're not denying that. Of course, there should be
01:29:49
Sydney (LDS)communities looking out for children. children like there's all sorts of different um uneven circumstances of course. But what we're saying is when that child can still make the decision
01:30:00
Sydney (LDS)when they're 16 whether or not to have sex or whether or not to do drugs or whether or not cuz at that point they are aware of right and wrong. Like that's >> I would say >> they're aware of right or wrong but you
01:30:10
Chloe (UK Goth)have no idea how strong their neural pathways are by that age already. >> Well, for sure. You still have the ability to make choices >> almost as long as you've been alive.
01:30:23
Chloe (UK Goth)Like if you've lived that way for 16 years, you're going to have to spend 16 years on learning all of those behaviors. >> Yeah. Fixing what your parents thought. Don't learn that. That's stuff you learn as adult. >> And that's what you have to choose. You
01:30:35
Kellyhave to act as an adult. That is your that is your responsibility to >> Yeah. But you can't do that until you're an adult. can't or makes it into you don't have >> you don't have like even the knowledge to even like understand that you have to
01:30:48
Kellydo this. So for example like I have a friend who literally has no idea how to schedule a doctor's appointment herself. >> Well that's the failure of the parents and the parent. >> I know but okay so again you're saying it's the failure of the parents. I know
01:31:01
Kellythat I understand that you're saying it is the failure of the parents, but it is un I I think it's unfair for you guys to say that well this this child could have chose this direction in their life and that's why necessarily speaking to children. I was speaking about adults
01:31:13
Jessebecause at some point you realize wrong and right, right? So when you hit adult like when you hit the age of adult where you can make decisions for yourself and you're still choosing to do the wrong
01:31:24
Jessething or go down the wrong path, whatever that may be, you came to a conclusion that that was wrong. And when you have full autonomy of yourself. >> Okay. So, a 16-year-old who is >> That's a child. Again, I'm talking about adults.
01:31:37
Kelly>> I know. But don't you think a 16-year-old's decision 16 is almost 18. That's almost a grown person. So, it's like if that person is at 16 years old and they make the wrong decision in two years, their life can be [ __ ] up. So, by the time they're 18, what they're an
01:31:49
Jesseadult, right? They should have made the right decision. That's what I'm trying like childhood decisions lead up to the adulthood decisions that they're making. Again, if your parents put you on the wrong path, this is what you chose. By the time you hit adulthood and you take
01:32:02
Jessea step back and you look at your life and you say, "I don't like the way this is going." Yes, they've made these choices to get there. Then >> don't vape. If you're going to vape, like blow it behind you or something. >> My bad. My bad.
01:32:14
Brian Atlas>> It's okay. >> Anyways, I'm rather finding this to be a dull affair. I'm going to move it on from No offense to people talking, but >> I don't know. Whatever. [ __ ] all I had started talking about kids.
01:32:27
Brian AtlasWhatever. >> Oh, that's a good point. >> It was a good >> What's your diagnosis? You >> do you have diagnosis? >> Oh, do I ever? >> What are they? >> I have BPD. I have autism. I have
01:32:39
Chloe (UK Goth)epilepsy. I have functional neurological disorder. >> Uh, that's about it. >> Thank you so much everyone. What do I win? What do I win?
01:32:52
Chloe (UK Goth)Uh, >> do I win win a whatever t-shirt? >> You win a lifetime of difficulty. >> No. Can I win a whatever t-shirt? >> No. >> Why not? That's so rude. Whatever. Get
01:33:06
Brian Atlasit. >> RIP. Um, what the hell? Uh, okay. We have a chat coming in for the friendly LDS lady, Uno
01:33:17
Brian AtlasMomento. It's taking forever to pull up. If you guys want to get a message in $100 TTS, $200 or sorry, $100 read, $200 TTS. Felicity, can you read this? You're
01:33:28
Felicitygoing to read the hundreds. >> Coming from a RM graduated from BYU, why in the celestial kingdom are you on the podcast LDS girl? Walk right into Outer Darkness. Why don't you lol?
01:33:41
Sydney (LDS)>> That's funny. Do you guys know what RM means? No. >> Return missionary. So, somebody who just came back from their two-year or year and a half mission. So, I chose to come on this podcast because I love debate. I
01:33:51
Brian Atlaslove discussion and I think it's a great way to um expose more ideas. So, love that. >> Good times. Good times.
01:34:01
Brian AtlasDarth Picious. Uh thank you. I guess are are Mormon women sorry LDS women not allowed to do podcasts? >> Apparently not. Apparently we're not
01:34:11
Brian Atlasallowed to talk about good values. >> Um okay. So, I want to you you were on seeking. You robbed people. I guess that was
01:34:23
Brian Atlascool. Um uh >> wait, hold on. I don't Okay, I think what kind of got the conversation a bit
01:34:32
Brian Atlasoff track, you said you cry after sex. >> What about it? >> I want to ask the the women during >> during too. Oh, wow. Mhm. >> Does it does that usually stop or does
01:34:46
Carmen (Arson)it keep going? >> Like do you want it to stop or do you want to keep going when you start crying? >> No, I want to stop but usually I let them finish just cuz I'm nice like that. >> You're generous like that. Yeah. Um
01:34:59
Brian Atlasthat's nice that I guess that's nice of you. >> Mhm. I'm very >> I feel like if a girl I would want to stop right away. >> You'd think, right? >> Well, I would even if notice even if she was crying but she's like no, keep
01:35:11
Carmen (Arson)going. I think if a girl started crying, I'd like instantly I'd lose. >> You think guys signs all the time? Like like so many times girl will be like giving signs they don't want it, but guys are just like they they're thinking
01:35:23
Brian Atlaswith their pee, so they don't care. >> I don't know if girl starts crying. Are you a loud crier or are you kind of like the soft >> No, I'll just like shed a tear.
01:35:34
Carmen (Arson)>> A singular tear like from that commercial where the people were littering. It'll just it'll be straight face. It'll just like flow out. >> So you don't make a noise. >> So cuz if it's doggy style then they
01:35:47
Carmen (Arson)probably couldn't. >> Yeah. Usually just like go mute. I'll go mute. I won't I I won't even try to like moan or anything. >> Yeah. But maybe that's the autism. >> This is why the boy called me autistic. >> Yeah. Cuz he was eating me out and I
01:35:59
Chloe (UK Goth)wasn't saying anything. >> Oh well that was his mistake. >> And he said, "Have you got something to say?" And I said nothing. And he said, "Don't go non-verbal on me, you little autistic bitch." That's >> Can you imagine it? That's actually what
01:36:12
Carmen (Arson)I said >> cuz like I won't want them to feel bad for making me cry cuz it won't necessarily be in the chat. >> So I'll just be like, "Sorry, I'm autistic." >> Wait, can you repeat what he said? >> No, that's >> Yes.
01:36:23
Chloe (UK Goth)>> Don't you dare go nonverbal on me, you autistic little [ __ ] And that was whilst he was eating me out. I said, "Babe, it's been 10 minutes. Nothing's going to happen." I think he was embarrassed.
01:36:34
Brian Atlas>> So romantic. [Music] Wow, she she's dropping some B. These are actually good tips, men. You should try some of these. >> You should try this out.
01:36:47
Brian Atlas>> Autistic. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I think somebody once told me a story of a girl asked a guy to talk dirty. >> She wanted him to talk dirty and he was
01:36:58
Brian Atlasbecause I guess he was a bit quiet. He's very new, you know, he's very fresh, very, very green. Didn't have a lot of experience. never did that before. And
01:37:08
Carmen (Arson)the what he resorted to was, "Yeah, you like that, you [ __ ] retard." >> Was that was talking dirty. >> Oh my god. Tell me why I've had that same thing happen to me. And I swear
01:37:20
Carmen (Arson)that's why I started crying because like we were doing it and I was like I was like, "Okay, everything's fine. Everything's fine." And then as soon as he was like he was like, "Mission
01:37:30
Carmen (Arson)accomplished." And I was like, >> I cringed so hard inside that it it just made everything inside me shrivel. I think my my vagina inverted inward and
01:37:42
Brian Atlasdropped out my butthole. >> Mission accomplished is absolutely wild. >> You know those Metal Gear Solid or No,
01:37:51
Chloe (UK Goth)no, no. Metal Slug games, you know, with the little the old arcade games. Mission complete. >> Yeah. Yeah. Are you showing your age now?
01:38:03
Brian Atlas>> I don't know that >> Metal Slug has been remains to be a very popular arcade franchise. One of the bestselling arcades. >> Yeah, sorry. >> Yeah, Gen Z doesn't respect the Metal Slug games.
01:38:17
Brian Atlas>> Sorry. >> Thank you. >> You're so welcome. >> No, it that when when those uh prisoners >> I have autism. I can't understand context.
01:38:27
Brian Atlas>> I get it. That's been established. Uh so anyways uh okay wait so you cry during during and after. What about before?
01:38:40
Carmen (Arson)>> No. Usually I'm pretty optimistic. >> Optimistic and then within 30 seconds you're just immediately crying. >> Yeah. It depends. Like if they're just like not the vibe. I can just like tell
01:38:51
Brian Atlasand then I get mad and then I be like >> and then I'll get pissy towards them and then it'll be all bad. Damn [ __ ] >> Yeah. But >> I have a question. If any of you were
01:39:03
Brian Atlashaving sex with a guy and then he cried after like right afterwards, would that be a kind of a turnoff or >> I might be more concerned about the situation that just happened? >> Oh, >> what about you, Malia? Is it Malia or
01:39:17
MaliaMalia? >> It's Malia. >> Malia. Okay, got it. >> I think I'd be worried. >> You'd be worried like you did a bad job. >> No. >> No. >> Like are you okay? Like he did something wrong. >> No, like what's wrong? Like I think I'd
01:39:30
Carmen (Arson)really be like concerned for him. >> Yeah. What if he started crying after like what if he was mid thrust? >> E. >> Yeah. Really bad. >> That's how sex works. So >> I would just be like compassionate like
01:39:42
Carmen (Arson)what's wrong, you know? And usually I do talk it out with them and like they make me feel a little bit better. Not really. Just cuz like >> but and so like usually I'll like just like talking like I'll try to stall it for as long as I can.
01:39:55
Carmen (Arson)>> You stall the cry. No, I stall the the the smecks part. You know, >> you can say sex. It's fine. >> Yeah. >> You stall. What do you mean stall? >> Like you ever like just start yapping, right? You'll start yapping and yapping
01:40:06
Carmen (Arson)yapping, but then they start being like, you know, like towards you and then so you're like trying to yap even more and then and then like eventually you're just like, damn, I have to fold and get this over with. >> I have a question. Why don't you just
01:40:18
Carmen (Arson)cry privately? >> Oh, most of the time I do. It's that was really only once that I that he noticed and and usually when if I do cry I don't make it known and usually I'll go to my
01:40:28
Carmen (Arson)car afterward and so I can like you know have my little technology freak out all by my own like please cry quietly in the corner table >> going around the table when's the last
01:40:38
Carmen (Arson)time that you cried? >> Um I cried on Tuesday. >> It's Tuesday in it. >> Yeah. I cried when
01:40:51
Carmen (Arson)um I don't know, this dude was ghosting me a couple months ago and I was just like I was doing the absolute most. Like I was like messaging him like I'm going to kill myself and then I sent him like old pictures of me slitting my wrist and
01:41:02
Carmen (Arson)then and but then he didn't even reply to it. I was like you're a [ __ ] >> So the last time you cried was a couple months ago. >> Yeah, like a few from a few months ago. >> Couple days ago. I mean, I cry over like little
01:41:15
Carmen (Arson)inconveniences, but I don't like count that. >> That counts. Do that. >> No, that counts. >> When's the last time you cried, period? >> Um, >> dude, I don't know. It was probably like >> yesterday. >> Not really. No.
01:41:28
Sydney (LDS)>> Was it the past week? >> No. No. >> Oh, okay. All right. What about you, Malia? >> Um, probably Thursday. >> Thursday. Cried. Okay. What about you? >> Um, right. The night before I went to the airport to move here. No. >> Oh,
01:41:40
Jesse>> which was when? >> Uh, like almost two weeks now. Two weeks. >> Two weeks ago. What about you? Last time you cried? >> I couldn't even tell you. I have no idea. It's been a long time. >> Long time. >> Yeah, >> years.
01:41:52
Kelly>> No, not years, but probably several months. Um, Kelly. >> Um, probably last week for my TikTok video. >> I see that today.
01:42:05
Felicity>> You cried today? >> Yeah. >> Did he make you cry? I was really stressed out. >> Yeah, I think stress think >> Felicia, you were on the [ __ ] boat today. How
01:42:16
Brian Atlas>> I told you the engine failed like >> Oh, and you had to go down to the [ __ ] engine room on the boat and fix the [ __ ] engine, you [ __ ] boat engineer. >> That would stress me out. I thought >> And then you cried because
01:42:28
Felicity>> And I just felt bad. I was like, I don't want to disappoint Brian. >> I feel bad. I don't know. >> So, it did come back to you at the end of it. >> Yeah, I was really stressed out. I was told I'd be back on time and stressed me out.
01:42:40
Felicity>> So, you cried on a boat while there were dolphins and whales. >> It was like when we were we were like about to get into the harbor and then the engine just like died. I was really stressed out cuz I was already late. >> I don't know. >> All right. Good times. Good times.
01:42:54
Brian Atlas>> I can't cry. >> Um No, you're banned from crying. >> When did you cry, Brian? >> Last time I cried. >> Um last time I cried >> today when we were late.
01:43:05
Brian Atlas>> Oh, yeah. deep deep tears. >> Uh, last time I cried probably I think when my grandma died a couple
01:43:17
Brian Atlasyears ago. >> I was there in the hospice witnessing it. That was pretty tough. >> I think that was the last time I cried. >> Yeah. >> Was there like a sad movie? I'm trying
01:43:29
Brian Atlasto think. Hold on. >> No, that was it. Pretty sure. >> Did you cry in Game of Thrones at all? No. E. >> What? >> Game of Thrones.
01:43:41
Carmen (Arson)>> No. >> I thought you liked that show. >> I Wait, was there a >> There's not one scene that made you cry. >> Oh, yeah. That's actually probably last time I cried on TikTok. >> Cute.
01:43:53
Brian Atlas>> Game of Thrones. No. >> Um, >> damn. I feel like there's a a while ago there was some touching movie that I saw and I got a little misty or some [ __ ] A little misty.
01:44:04
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Not not full-blown balling. There's some movie that that moved me. What was the [ __ ] movie though? >> I've never cried at a movie. I cry at Lanking every time I watch it. >> Beautiful. >> Desert judge donated $200.
01:44:18
SPEAKER_00>> Thank you, George. Appreciate it. >> Shout out to my homies in the Discord. Observation. So many drugs on display with this panel. Brixen, please send the asteroid and put us all out of our misery. Society is cooked.
01:44:32
Carmen (Arson)>> Drugs. >> He should send another one. and tell us what drugs you think everyone is on. >> Yeah, I feel like there's certain drugs that you shouldn't be on and certain drugs that may have helpful benefits,
01:44:44
Brian Atlasbut not if you do it all. >> Crazy. Thank you. Uh, all right. But so you say you're a female. When's the last time you had carnal knowledge? >> Does that sex?
01:44:57
Carmen (Arson)>> Yeah. He and the V. >> He and the V was with this one dude. He was so fine. Um he had dre so cute and it was like
01:45:06
Carmen (Arson)>> white cultural appropriation. >> No no he was he was like >> black guy who's like Ethiopian or something like that
01:45:16
Carmen (Arson)>> but um >> like a immigrant illegal immigrant or >> I didn't ask his immigration status but >> did he have an accent? I was m No, he
01:45:28
Carmen (Arson)was like he was I I wish I would have liked him way more, but he was like homeless. >> Was his name Carson? Wait, hold on. >> Carson. >> He was homeless. >> Yeah, he was homeless. >> So that's the last guy you hooked up with.
01:45:40
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. And he was doing all my drugs and I didn't like it. And >> when Wait, when was this? >> Um this was like two weeks ago. >> Two weeks ago. >> Hold on. August. So you sent me this August 2nd.
01:45:52
Brian Atlas>> Still living that female life. So that's four weeks ago. >> Yeah. >> And then within two weeks of you sending them that you're a fem cell. Within two weeks
01:46:04
Brian Atlas>> you had a homeless Ethiopian [ __ ] you and doing your drugs. >> She has BPD. This is on a daily basis. >> Today and then tomorrow I'm like I'm hook up.
01:46:15
Carmen (Arson)>> Bipolar. Okay. I guess that makes sense. Um so how many times did you see the homeless Ethiopian guy? So, I was gonna I invited him over to get like like the like this cuck was trying to pay us like $800 to watch.
01:46:29
Carmen (Arson)>> Wait. >> But then the cuck was like, "I don't like black eyes." And so I was like, "Fuck." Right. >> I didn't have I didn't have anyone else that I was talking to, so I didn't do it. >> Hey chat, what's worse, that he's a
01:46:40
Carmen (Arson)racist >> or that he's a cuck? >> I kind of think like, pick a struggle. >> That's true. >> Yeah. So true. >> What else was wrong with him? I don't know a lot. He wanted to be put in a dog
01:46:52
Carmen (Arson)cage and all this and that. >> Did he actually watch? >> No, because like racist. >> He was trying to get me hook up with white boys and I don't like white boys. >> Oh, what do you like? >> I like anyone with like a little color in them. >> The melanin. >> Yeah, the melanin.
01:47:06
Carmen (Arson)>> I see. >> I don't care what you are. Just a little bit. >> Are you like a pet? Like you like pet stuff? Cuz you have like a little collar and then the >> dog. Am I a pet? No, I'm not freaky
01:47:17
Carmen (Arson)dicky like that. Like I'm I like other people will be but like I just show up. I just lay there. You know how many friends? >> How many uh >> home how many homeless people have you
01:47:31
Brian Atlashad sex with? >> Oh my god. Probably the worst guy was this dude like I was like volunteering. >> Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. How many homeless people have you had sex with? And then you tell me the worst one. >> Probably only like three, honestly. Just
01:47:44
Kellythree homeless. When you say homeless, are they like couch hopping or they're like on the street? >> Uh like skid road. >> Yeah, he was living at the mission. >> Like at the mission. >> The mission. >> The mission. Kelly, >> I I just the mission. Kelly,
01:47:58
Carmen (Arson)>> you know what? Like I don't know if she's walking on the street meeting a guy she thinks is fine. And >> I was volunteering at the mission and I didn't like him at first because he was like, I just got out of jail for the last 10 years. But he kept following me like following you like physically.
01:48:10
Carmen (Arson)>> Wait, is this the Ethiopian guy? No, somebody else. >> This is the guy before him. Yeah. >> But and when was that? Was that late July? >> That was like like two months ago. But >> word. >> Yeah. But yeah, he like I went to the
01:48:23
Carmen (Arson)library. I was like, I'm at the library. And then he was like, I'm on my way there now. And I was like, no. And then he just showed up. And then he started like being like, oh, I'll fix all your broken stuff at your house. And I was like at first I was like, okay. And then
01:48:34
Carmen (Arson)he started making moves on me. And I was like, this kind of weird because like you're so bad. But but then I ended up ghosting him because he did not fit in with my friends. Like my friends were like
01:48:46
Carmen (Arson)>> your witch cult. >> Yeah, cuz he was just like a different kind of like you know at least have some standards. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Do they have a phone?
01:48:58
Carmen (Arson)>> He he did have a phone. They get free phones there. You can actually go to like what's it called outside of the the place where you get food stamps. They're giving out free phones for anyone on food stamps.
01:49:10
Carmen (Arson)>> So you blocked his like Obama number. >> Do I want his phone? I wish I could get food stamps, but they've been playing games with me. >> Did you not time? >> That's crazy.
01:49:22
Brian Atlas>> We have a message here from George. >> Oh my god, that was his name, too. >> Pasty. Do you prefer pasty? Do you prefer George? What do you prefer? Let me know what you prefer. >> Pass. George donated $200.
01:49:33
SPEAKER_00>> I got money. >> Is the worst type of man ever to exist? second only to simp. >> Here's the thing, right? You know what I think? This I think
01:49:43
Brian Atlas>> Oh, wait. Hold on. Let me frame this so it doesn't come across terribly.
01:49:50
Brian Atlas>> Well, isn't >> James makes no sense. >> I was about to say, you know, look, people >> am I worse than a cook? Sometimes, you
01:50:02
Brian Atlasknow, racism can be internalized, you know, whatever that woke terminology [ __ ] >> but like being a cuck is a choice. >> I feel like being a racist is way worse
01:50:13
Brian Atlasthan a cook. >> Sometimes, you know, getting money, can you help? >> But here's my thing. Does that sound bad? >> Most cops are going to be micro dicks, right? >> What?
01:50:25
Chloe (UK Goth)>> Most [ __ ] they're going to have micro dicks that you can't choose. I mean, there's probably Look, let's be fair. It's possible. >> Listen, if >> a cuck could have like a giant hog,
01:50:36
Chloe (UK Goth)>> okay, but then they're still choosing. Like, I guess they know what they have and they don't want to use it. And that's that's a choice. >> It's definitely worse to be a cuck
01:50:49
Brian Atlasthan a >> I mean, you can stop being a cuck. >> Yeah, >> but you can't stop being a racist. Oh, nice. >> Well, isn't that like w isn't even the woke people say you can't change your
01:51:02
Carmen (Arson)Can you stop being racist? >> You could stop being racist. You just have to have the right influences. But I don't know. People really want to stay in that way is Yeah.
01:51:12
Brian Atlas>> Would I rather have a racist son or a cuck son? Oh, definitely a racist son. >> Oh my gosh. That's racist. Racist daughter >> going around the table. Would you have
01:51:23
Chloe (UK Goth)rather have a racist son or a cuck son? >> [ __ ] son because then I can just laugh at him like the pathetic little piece of [ __ ] >> That's a troll answer. All right.
01:51:34
Carmen (Arson)>> I definitely would rather a cuck son. >> But like I also wouldn't be like like my dad used to be a little racist. Like one time he said the n word with a hard R around me, but I've educated him.
01:51:44
Carmen (Arson)>> But you're Are you like Mexican? >> He I'm mixed. I'm mixed. >> What are you? >> I'm Filipino and my dad's white. Oh, >> but he he just came from another tribe. >> You're Filipino. >> Yeah.
01:51:57
Carmen (Arson)>> Okay. >> Yeah. And so like they just need some education. Like for real, some of them, you know, so he's changed a lot. >> Um >> but I don't have any empathy for like racists like Trump. Like I feel like
01:52:10
Carmen (Arson)he's not changing. >> But how could your dad be a racist when he had sex with a Filipino woman? >> Oh, he'd be surprised. >> Obviously that's not possible. I well toward like just towards like black
01:52:23
Carmen (Arson)people cuz like I had like a black boyfriend and he didn't like it because >> he was like >> but then again he it's different because he would call like Obama he would be
01:52:33
Carmen (Arson)like that's a good black person but a black person that sells drug is a nword and I'm like >> and I'm like that no and I had to like talk to him about it but he understood in that. >> Are your parents married?
01:52:46
Carmen (Arson)>> Yeah >> they're still together? Yeah, they bro, they're old as [ __ ] They've been married for like a million years. They're like 75. >> Yeah. Huh. Uh, would you rather a cuck
01:52:57
Maliason or a racist son? >> Um, okay. I don't judge. What is a cuck? Someone who pays people to >> someone who likes to watch. >> Yeah. Um,
01:53:07
Brian Atlas>> well, usually their wife or girlfriend. >> Yeah. be like fine with his girlfriend or wife getting >> and perhaps watching getting effed by. >> No, I think the watching is the main
01:53:20
Jessepart. >> Well, no, because there's there is people who like to watch and it doesn't matter if they're like together or not. And then there's people that are cucks, which a cuck to me is like that's your partner and you like to watch them have
01:53:32
Maliasex with other people. >> That's cuck or racist son? I'll go with racist son only because I feel like there's always a little
01:53:43
Maliainternal racism that we all experience in our heads towards all groups. >> We're all racist. >> So I think
01:53:51
Malia>> we're just all racist. But >> we've all had some stereotypical racist. >> Who are you racist towards? >> Oh, not not I I'm like three different
01:54:03
MaliaNo, I'm saying >> I'm Chinese black and white. So >> she's not there. She can't be racist. >> My like my grandparents have experienced racism from my own grandma. Like I'm not I'm against racism.
01:54:15
Malia>> But you have a racist son. >> Wait, that's got to be like rather >> tell me the breakdown. Uh so your is your dad >> My dad is black. My mom is Chinese and white. And
01:54:28
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> What? >> Wait, your mom is is half She's half white, half black. >> Yeah. So my white grandma had a Dad is black >> and your mom Chinese and white. >> Correct.
01:54:41
Brian Atlas>> Or did I [ __ ] yeah? >> That's correct. Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, I'm saying my white grandma >> grandparents question for you.
01:54:50
Brian AtlasGrandparents on the mother's side. Was there some racism >> on the mother's side? >> So, your grandma, >> my my >> like your Chinese >> No.
01:55:03
Malia>> grandparents. Oh, >> were they >> Well, my they don't speak a lot of Well, >> they don't speak a lot of English. Um, so it's really it would be hard for me
01:55:13
Maliato know what they're saying in Mandarin. But as far as like my white grandmother, that's my mother's mom. Yes, she's she's a little racist. >> Oh, okay. Cuz I I've
01:55:24
Brian Atlas>> towards my father. >> Asians are racist against other Asians. >> They are. They are >> all the time. But like >> Asians are >> can be very racist. >> Oh yes, they are. >> Towards black people, >> especially the old ones like the
01:55:38
SPEAKER_00grandmas. >> The granny's. >> The grandmas. >> Yes. >> It's non-traditional for them. >> But past George donated $200.
01:55:50
SPEAKER_00>> You can call pronounced paste tea. >> Paste. >> Paste tea. >> You want me to annunci? What's the term? I was like, >> pasty. >> Oh, well, thank you, Pasty. We have
01:56:03
Brian Atlasanother one coming in. Then I'll let you ask your question. Then we have this. Then we have that. I'll be back. Thank you, Pasty.
01:56:15
SPEAKER_00>> Pasty. >> Past George donated $200. I would rather have a racist son than a cuck son. I would disown my son if I found out he was a cuck.
01:56:28
MaliaI feel like that can be cured with some therapy though. >> Yeah, for sure. That can be cured with therapy. >> I feel like racist people don't want to be changed. >> Oh, yeah. I agree with you. Deter it. It matters what kind of racist person you
01:56:40
Maliaare. That's why I chose a racist son cuz he can say like a random >> you know these stereotypical comments that are not they're not correct. But I rather have that than a son with no morals. I feel like that's very
01:56:52
Brian Atlas>> I mean those are pretty [ __ ] up morals be racist. >> Yes. I have but I have your question. What was your question? I know >> you had a question earlier for them,
01:57:05
Maliadidn't you? >> Oh, I was I was going to just tell her like I just think a cuck son like that's just dis that you're just disgusting. Like you're >> I mean
01:57:17
Carmen (Arson)sexual things but like but like I don't know. I feel like that's the only reason I love my dad. He's never judged me for any of my sexual stuff. Like one time he even caught me when I was like 16. I had like two dudes in my bed and he was
01:57:28
Carmen (Arson)like, "Oo, you guys have a fun night, you know? He was just he was just always he's always like like >> being so nice, you know?" And so like I would never judge my son for what he likes. Like girl, you like to watch some weird ass porn. Go ahead. Like
01:57:42
Carmen (Arson)>> you know that's not something that matters to me. But like being mean to people cuz if you're not harming nobody then harms people. >> Your dad it was at your house. >> Mhm. Mhm. >> You were in bed with two boys.
01:57:55
Carmen (Arson)>> Mhm. >> Getting double teamed. >> I wasn't getting double teamed. I just saw one of them while the other one was sleeping. But he didn't know that. >> So, he only saw one of the boys. >> He saw both of them, but like he was like, >> "Bro, if I'm at my house,
01:58:07
Brian Atlas>> I was like in the act." >> If I'm at my house. >> Mhm. >> And my 16-year-old daughter >> murder >> has boys. No, I'm not going to murder him. First off, >> I know some people that would murder
01:58:18
Brian Atlasthem. >> I'm going in there. I'm girl the the I'm grabbing the [ __ ] kids off and I'm [ __ ] throwing them out the house. What the [ __ ] >> That's crazy. >> I don't know. I He put me on birth
01:58:31
Carmen (Arson)control when I was 13 and he just like always was like, >> you know? Yeah. Like he like told you to go and do it or like >> Yeah. He like made me I like didn't want to cuz I wasn't even sexually active but he was like you have to because >> why?