TANTRUM?! CRASH OUT?! Goth Girl Psych Ward DATING?! BPD Bipolar Girl LOSES IT?! | Dating Talk #258

Date: 2025-09-01

Duration: 7h 45m

Guests

Brian Atlas

CChloe (UK Goth)>

CCarmen (Arson)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_03Carmen (Arson)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Kelly(guest)

SPEAKER_05Malia(guest)

SPEAKER_06Jesse(guest)

SPEAKER_08Sydney (LDS)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Chloe (UK Goth)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Felicity(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduced

Key MomentChloe: psych ward 3 times, ~5 years total. 4-5 suicide attempts.

Key MomentCarmen: robbed 3-4 clients on ketamine from Seeking Arrangement

ControversyCarmen: slept with ~3 homeless men including one from a mission

ControversyCarmen's father put her on birth control at 13. Brian flags as potentially abusive.

Key MomentCarmen photoshopped fake herpes results and pointed gun on FaceTime

Key MomentSydney gifts Brian a Book of Mormon

ControversySydney's brother skip-traced Brian's personal phone during live show

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Chloe (goth/psych ward), Carmen (bipolar/BPD/former sex worker), Sydney (LDS/virgin), Jesse (married/child-free).

Chloe's Psych Ward History

3 admissions, ~5 years total. Self-harm. Suicide attempts. Snuck out to date.

Carmen's Sex Work/Robbery History

Seeking Arrangement $8K/month. Robbed clients on ketamine. Homeless men. Blood play ER visit.

Carmen's Father Enabling

Put her on birth control at 13. Gave the talk about masturbation at ~10.

Pit Bull Debate

Kelly defends pit bull Bashy. CDC stats: 66% of fatal attacks.

Sydney's Brother Skip-Traces Brian

Brother found Brian's personal phone number during live show and texted asking to remove Sydney.

Transcript

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Carmen (Arson)>> Because he >> he was worried you were going to >> he was just like I know kids and like I know like me like Oh, you know, like like he just wanted to prevent anything cuz he's like, "Kids are stupid and they're not going to tell me anything."

Carmen (Arson)So, yeah. >> So, he was trying to prevent a pregnancy. >> Yeah, of course. He want to 13-year-old >> 13 like junior high school. >> Yeah. >> I mean, I know. Look, I know people are [ __ ] But

Carmen (Arson)>> I'm not really liking it though. >> Do you think he promoted that idea in your head at such a young age? >> Um, possibly. Maybe. He it did like tell me it was like okay and like sex has

Carmen (Arson)never been like a bad thing in my mind. So, but yeah. So, like in my family like my dad thinks it's like natural. Even like he he was the one that gave me the talk on masturbating and stuff. He's like masturbating is okay and and this

Carmen (Arson)is how you masturbate, you know? And then and and then like at what age? >> I don't know. I don't know. When I was young, he was just like he was just like just so you know, it's okay and I will never be mad at you if you >> Wait, wait, wait. Okay. Hold on.

Brian Atlas>> Hold on. I don't want to be flippant about this because this is kind of a serious thing. Uh I mean, you're talking about it in I >> I think >> that sounds abusive to me.

Carmen (Arson)>> What? No. >> I'm sorry. That sounds bad. That sounds really bad. >> Mhm. >> And I'm not I'm not saying that to poke at you. Like >> that's bad. >> I think it's because in his childhood

Carmen (Arson)his his parents were like so Christian he wasn't allowed to do anything. So he he hated being so restricted. He hated, you know, like if you masturbate then you have to feel like you're going to hell. He hated that feeling. He would he didn't want me to ever have that

Felicityfeeling. So that's why I think that's not normal having a talk about masturbation. I mean they have like the sex talk but being like masturbation is okay to your child. It's really weird.

Carmen (Arson)>> I'm a dad too. It's the dad part cuz my mom my mom has like she was like she's not really she has like autism and so she doesn't really talk much. So if I go and talk to her about stuff she won't

Carmen (Arson)even talk to me. So he he basically was has been my mom and dad my whole >> that's kind of a dope setup though if the mom just doesn't really >> he likes it.

Sydney (LDS)>> Yo guys find yourself an autistic girl. Um but okay hold on. So your dad was essentially fostering a dysfunctional idea of six. And >> is that like grooming? I don't know. That's crazy.

Carmen (Arson)>> No, I don't think so. >> I don't know. So you were like 12 and he was like talking to you about >> masturbation. But like that I have loved him for. It's been other things that you

Carmen (Arson)know maybe I wish they would have done differently. That though has never I think hurt me. That's only made me more easily accept myself. >> Okay. But it's been a lot of other things that I haven't.

Malia>> It probably made you a little bit more hypersexual, which I I I do feel bad about that. But I think this dad is probably like, I can't wait to have a child to also like break all these

Maliatraditions that I grew up with. He's probably very passionate about the way he grew up, but does not make it right at all. I do think that he over >> I think he had the best of intentions. So I would never be mad at him for

Felicitytrying to >> Yeah. have having good intentions. >> I think you were a little bit enabled. Yeah. >> Like now you have a poor relationship with sex and that could probably be part of the reason. I say I'm not saying that

Carmen (Arson)to be rude. I'm kind of just like bring >> I think you I have a poor relationship with sex due to many other reasons, you know. So I don't think it has to do with that. But >> Well, that's like the foundation, right?

Carmen (Arson)>> It didn't. >> No, I think the foundation was that like as much as my dad did, right? like both of them being like they both didn't know how to show emotion. So I was like kind of emotionally neglected and so it's

Carmen (Arson)always been about emotion. Sex has always been about emotion for me trying to feel this emotion. It's never been about the actual sex itself. >> Wait, so but how old were you when he taught you he taught you how to

Carmen (Arson)masturbate? >> Not really. He just told me kind of like like this is like what happens like for a guy the penis gets erected. like he just wanted to educate me. Like he wasn't like saying like, "Oh, like let me give you these vibrators or

Carmen (Arson)something." But he was just like telling me like this is how stuff it works for. But I also cut him off. I was like, "Dad, I already know." And so like like >> your dad just had the talk with you. >> Yeah. It was just like it was just a

Brian Atlassexed talk. Like I think people should get sex ed especially like you know young people too >> I think it's I think there is some degree of it's okay for your parents to

Brian Atlasgive you some education on this topic but the way you originally framed it was I think the words that you said were and correct me if I'm wrong was your dad taught you how to master or

Carmen (Arson)>> not like taught me how but tell me that it's okay. I guess I should have said Tommy it's okay because like yeah he just said stuff like the coochie will get wet and like it's okay like he just tried to be like it's okay like this is

Carmen (Arson)this is I don't really know I was [ __ ] 10 I don't remember all the words or like I was somewhere around that age I was I was I was just like a kid you know or like 10 13 but definitely >> too early he he was he was just giving

Brian Atlasme like good like he was just trying to make sure I was knowing what's going on >> I mean I'm wondering though to I maybe I don't know look I I'm not sure

Brian Atlashow to best proceed with that whole situation, but like if a parent were to like catch their child doing that, would it then be okay for the parent to

Carmen (Arson)have >> a long matter? >> You know, >> I don't know. But I would say like I would be I would be kind of like >> the way you originally framed it though was

Carmen (Arson)>> I'll probably educate my children really early too because I would just like want them to know this stuff >> cuz I don't think knowing it has any effect on whether you're going to do it or not. I think that like comes

Carmen (Arson)naturally cuz he told me that stuff at an early age but I didn't start messing around till like two years later when it came naturally. His words had nothing to do with me you know. >> Okay. So >> uh we have some chats coming through. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00>> Yeah. That's not good. >> Pass George donated $200. Share two. You said that your dad actually showed you how to butterfly when you were little. >> Butterfly. >> Butterfly.

Carmen (Arson)>> Uh oh. It masturbate. >> No, he just told me about it. Like, you know, like like like if you watch porn, it's okay. If you like touch yourself, it's okay. >> Okay. Well, hold. Okay. Now,

Carmen (Arson)your dad should not be telling a 12, 13year-old that it's okay to watch adult >> porn. >> I just think he just didn't want me to feel any type of guilt cuz I feel like he has felt so much guilt about a lot of stuff. He just didn't want me feeling that. And I am very grateful.

Brian Atlas>> By the way, let me clarify my statement. I was about to say adult content, but then I was like, I'm not going to self-censor myself. So, midway. Anyways, go ahead. But and at the same time like you guys are like judging my lifestyle but I don't think my lifestyle has been

Brian Atlasbad and I'm so grateful for all my experiences. >> I mean there are people who have we don't know all the details. We don't know everything. Maybe we're there's something lost in translation here but

Carmen (Arson)like a lot of people have been through certain things that are traumatic or >> Yeah. That what I would say is not education. Like if if my dad was diddling me that'd be way different.

Carmen (Arson)>> Okay. He wasn't doing that though. >> No. Never. Never. But yeah, so that stuff is obviously bad, but like yeah, just talking to your kids, being open with them, being able to communicate whatever you want with them. Like I could tell my dad [ __ ] anything. I

Carmen (Arson)could tell I just hook up with a crackhead. Like he paid me $200 and he'd be like, you know, so like he could be like, "Get in your bag, sis." cuz he

Chloe (UK Goth)>> I think that's probably giving a meshment because you and your mom didn't have a very strong bond or relationship or weren't able to talk about those things.

Carmen (Arson)>> You and him have like a you and your dad are almost like in a relationship with the way that you talk to each other. >> He's my best friend. Yeah. I would tell him anything because at the end of the

Chloe (UK Goth)day like he'll try to give me guidance. He'll be like maybe you should not do that. But also like I love you, you know? So like does he talk to you about his [ __ ] as well? Like his emotional problems and like

Carmen (Arson)>> Oh yeah, he has a lot of problems too. But so like that's why we're so close cuz we both we're both like the same person, but I'm like a smaller girl version. So >> his many me. >> There has to be a difference between

Sydney (LDS)sexual education and then grooming which and then putting all these ideas and knowledge into your head that shouldn't be encouraged at all in the slightest. And then also just basic sexual sex sexual education. That's what he was doing.

Brian Atlas>> I mean, I I agree with you. I think it's okay for parents to have like the talk or, you know, some sex education, but at what point can it potentially cross a line?

Carmen (Arson)>> Yeah. I think the thing that affected me more was like he kind of made it seem like drugs were okay cuz like from a young age he like he like always said how like acid made him have like this

Carmen (Arson)spiritual awakening and stuff and like he he always said like he wanted to do it with me one someday and so like I think from a young kid I kind of like thought like oh this stuff's not that bad because my dad did it and so like I think that more had a negative effect on

Carmen (Arson)me than anything I'm going to do with sex. I feel like sex is in the back. >> But yeah, that I think did. But I forgive him because I'm It wasn't his fault. It wasn't his intention, you know. >> It sounds like he wanted to be your

Carmen (Arson)friend, not your dad. >> I mean, no, he was also like he get mad at me for a lot for other stuff, but but at the end of the day, like you said, it's my choice. Like at a point like you

Felicityknow, you made the decision. >> He let you be promiscuous at a young age and he let you do drugs. So what did he punish you for? What were your punishments?

Carmen (Arson)>> Um, I would say it was just like if I came home like super like cracked out, like he could tell I hadn't slept for days or like and I was like having

Carmen (Arson)seizures, then he'd be like, "Girl, you're taking it too far. Like, smoke some weed. Like, what are you doing?" You know? And so like he he would get mad if I took anything too far, you know? Or if I try to kill myself, he'd

Carmen (Arson)be like he'd be like he'd be like mad about that. He'd be like, "Girl, like you're just taking things way too far, you know?" So, yeah, there there's a lot of things he'd get mad at me for, but

Carmen (Arson)like he wouldn't try to me. >> So, like doing too many drugs. And then what was the other one? >> And like if I try to like unal alive myself, he'd be like, "Oh, yeah." >> He'd be like, "You're being selfish. You're going to leave me here alone."

Carmen (Arson)And then like And then like But he's like a old hippie. Like imagine like our house is covered in tie dyes. Like he wears tie-dyes every day. He's like a old hippie. you don't care about nothing, you know. >> So, basically, like he only got mad at

Jesseyou when it was things that lead to your death, like that could lead to your death. That's when he got upset. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh, sorry. Unalous. My bad.

Sydney (LDS)>> There it sounds like to me there there has to be a difference between having grace for somebody's mistakes, right? Like a child's mistakes. A parent should be loving and try to you, you know, like

Sydney (LDS)if a child makes a mistake, but he shouldn't be encouraging towards selfharming behavior, towards destructive behavior, towards destructive sex. And now you have a bunch of a slew of emotional problems

Sydney (LDS)and emotional dissociations and dysfunctional sex problems. Couldn't that root from him having taught that from a very young age? Instead of saying, "Hey, if you make a mistake, we'll have grace, but go ahead and make all these mistakes and it'll be totally fine. Nothing's an issue. make all these

Carmen (Arson)mistakes >> just because he felt like he didn't get to make those himself. >> I think that my mistakes have nothing to do with him. I've always been like from a kid I've always been like a crazy ass

Carmen (Arson)kid. Like I always had like hella hyperactivity, hella ADHD. Like I've always been so like I and then when I got diagnosed with bipolar like I just knew like I like doing like out of pocket [ __ ] and that had nothing to do

Carmen (Arson)with him. That's like in my DNA, you know? And so like I think it was more like not communicating why this was going on cuz I was like having all these emotions and behaviors and I wouldn't know why I would I would and so like I I

Carmen (Arson)the only thing I wish I would have done differently is maybe communicating like teaching me how to communicate in a way where I would understand those emotions. But I don't think it had anything to do with encouraging me to like love myself. Well, as a parent,

Sydney (LDS)that should have been his responsibility to say, "Oh, she has a tendency towards um like what was the word you used?" >> Like as an ADHD person, you have the tendency. So, you should have adjusted to that and just be like, "Go make all

Jessethe mistakes. Everything is fine. Here's how to do it." That's that's the where he went wrong as a parent. >> Yeah. But he didn't know better. So, I can't believe he basically enabled you, though. That's that's what he did. He

Maliaenabled you instead of >> holding you back from things that were going to harm you. He said, "No, it's okay." >> I think this has a lot to do with the discussion you two were having with Cali about kind of like, you know, being able

Kellyto make choices to change your life around. And here's like a prime example of how that's not always the case, >> right? I was going to I was going to actually bring that up earlier and I was going to say like how >> so like in her case like how is she

Kellygoing to get out of a situation like that if that's like if you guys are like you know like this is how her this is how her father is and then if you guys think that's wrong like how what is she supposed to do in that situation? >> Well for example she said that she was

Sydney (LDS)given the talk at 10 and then two years later was when she started to get freakier into the sex world. >> Is that her fault though? >> Yes cuz she made that decision. But but you guys were just saying that a 16-year-old is a child. But that's Yeah, that's what that's what I'm saying.

Sydney (LDS)>> She should be held accountable. Absolutely. 100%. So as a child, she does have a more of a tendency to make those decisions, but what we're saying is when she becomes an adult, she needs to make sure that she's making good

Sydney (LDS)choices and her life choices can affect the way her direction going. So yes, it was still wrong that she made those choices, right? There's still wrong choices, but yes, there is grace because her parent was so dysfunctional and >> but I mean it's wrong to me. It's not

Kellywrong. Like I would do all those things again. I don't think it's wrong. Everyone lives their life. >> And that's the other thing. It depends if she sees that as bad or not. >> Yeah. I still don't end. I was just saying like this is a prime like Mia

Kellysaid, this is a prime example of like a child who doesn't have who's different different direction than what we would consider a normal parent would give somebody. But that doesn't mean that like >> that's her fault. Like that's not or

Kellylike that's a that like she we could all say like she's being set back now because this is what her dad is doing. That's not her fault. And then even when she makes those decisions at 12, whatever, 10 to 6 to 18 years old, I'm

Kellysorry, but that's none of that is her fault. None of that is her fault. It doesn't matter if you think that she had a brain that was working. She was given a direction and she was following that direction because that's what children do. They follow. Children don't have the brain of their own so that they can't go

Kellyand make up their own mind, especially going and living in the real world themselves. Like they're going to follow whatever they're told. And if this is what this child is told, that's how they're going to think their that that's what they're going to think their life is supposed to be like that. But at this point in time, now that she's an adult,

Kelly>> sure. Yeah. Then she's all the decisions fall on her stemming from. Yeah. 100%. Again, it goes back to the conversation of you guys saying that it is fair that people are dealt all different cards. But which Yeah, sure. We could say 100%

Kellythat is fair because that's just how the cookie crumbles. But for but it's it it I think that you know, you guys could have a little empathy towards the people who are dealt with. >> It's not that I lack empathy. That sorry, that's not it at all.

Brian Atlas>> It's not the empathy. It's like this is a discussion, so we're boiling it down to the basics. >> You still have to Yeah, you still have to >> I'm going to move it off of this. Uh Cash App Chast, thank you for the five.

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SPEAKER_00>> Mike donated $200. Fit check. My sprinkler goes like this.

Brian Atlas>> Nice. >> Uh, okay. >> Come back like this. >> All right, we'll do a fit check. If everybody just stands up really quick.

Brian AtlasTry not to move your microphone. Do a little fit check. Fit check. Fit check. Okay, cool. There it is. As you can see, there's a little tattoo check, too, I

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Brian Atlas>> Uh, all right. There it is. The fit check. Is that a Mormon LDS? >> No. >> Costume. You You made the dress. You made the dress. >> You did not just call her outfit a

Brian Atlascostume. >> You called it a costume. >> Yeah. >> Oh, sorry. I should have said that about your costume. All right, everybody. >> All sit back down. All sit back down.

Brian AtlasSweet. Um, okay. That was interesting. Thank you for the fit check. >> Let me finish up these notes we have

Brian Atlashere. Uh, you know what? Uh, Carmen, you need to go back behind the scenes really quick if you can for just a sec. We need to tape something else.

Brian AtlasUh, all right. Moving on to Oh, it's okay. Into the notes, we have Jesse. You s Oh, that

Jesseuh you saran wrapped a guy's car once. >> Yeah, with my best friend Ashley. >> That's so funny. So, he apparently was over his ex, which he was not. um we

Jessestarted dating and then like shortly after Valentine's Day um I saw his Snapchat I think with his ex-girlfriend and they were like back together but like we were totally dating. Um but

Jesseanyways he liked to get salty about things so we like dumped a bunch of salt. We wrote sticky notes, don't even ask me what they said. And we stuck them all over his truck and wrapped it.

Brian Atlas>> Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Go back. The cheap part is fine. It's just the that part. >> Uh, okay. Mary, pull up a You're not going to show this. Okay. >> Okay.

Brian Atlas>> Pull up an Instagram tab and then it's the top chat, the mod chat. You're going to pull up this photo. Okay.

Jesse>> I'm actually so excited to say it's funny. Well, cuz me and my friend, we were talking about it last night cuz I'm staying with her and I was like, she was like, I don't think it's that crazy. like why did you even mention it? And I was like, well, cuz it's kind of crazy.

Chloe (UK Goth)Like if you think about it, we stopped him for like three nights because we had to make sure his car was there. Like that's kind of crazy. >> Also, you like went through the whole thing and like wrapped the entire >> It was a truck.

Jesse>> How long ago was this? How long ago? >> That was 9 years ago before I started dating. >> That was so long. I don't know. I think we have like two or three things. >> There's another one. Mary, do you have them?

Brian AtlasOkay. >> Yeah. >> All right. Okay. We can So, you saran wrapped this dude's car and you sent us photos. We have >> Yeah, I still have it.

Kelly>> We have the evidence surprisingly. >> All right. Pull it up. Make it bigger, please. >> All right. >> Did you put You said you put salt in his tank. >> No. No, we didn't put it in his tank. We

Jesselike kind of just like dumped it all over the Well, actually put it in the blanket and then put it in the Post-it notes say, >> "Oh, girl, I couldn't even remember." >> I'm sorry. We wrote a bunch of things

Jesselike you're salty or like you're you're a cheater. Something like that. >> Why did you saran wrap the car again? Sorry, I missed that. >> Cuz we were dating. We had been dating

Jessefor like months at this point. And um all of a sudden, like he I saw a picture of him like taking his ex out to dinner when like we were dating and she was

Jesseapparently out of the picture. So, it was just like a fine, you're going to do that, then I'm going to be petty and do this. >> All right. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Why do women go for the car? I don't know.

Jesse>> Okay. But like that was 9 years ago. And I didn't do any damage. Like I could have egged it. I could have baloneyed it. I could have jolly ranchered it and I didn't. No damage. Just a little annoyance. >> Just a little annoyance

Kelly>> cuz they can't get anywhere else. So they got to go. We got to go for the car. >> Exactly. I mean, >> not me. My car got keyed. So, I'm just saying from my own. However, >> they will go for your car. >> I did forget this point. I think he

Jessefound out that it was me cuz like a couple weeks later, I had like a footprint in my door. Like somebody like kicked my door. >> So, you know, it all comes back around.

Brian Atlas>> You said your husband 9 years ago drove out and crashed your family vacation in Vegas. >> Yes. >> And you hadn't even gone on a date yet. >> Yeah. So, me and my husband, we met

Jessethrough a mutual friend that we had at the time. Um, this guy, he had always had like a crush on me, but I was very clear like I never let him on. I'm not

Jessethat type of person. So, like he knew very well. Well, him and Josh, which is my husband, they became friends. So, we all kind of started hanging out together. And then Josh was actually

Jessereally respectful. He was like, "Hey, buddy. Like, I like her. like, "Do you mind if I like start talking to her or this and that?" And he was like, "I'm totally cool with it." But then he

Jessewasn't cool with it. Um, so he kind of fell out and we started talking and we had hung out with friends, so not by ourselves, like a date like I would

Jesseconsider. And I was going out to Vegas with my family. Well, one night I was texting him and Ashley, who I'm staying with, she was out there with me, but she was leaving. So I was like, "My friend's leaving. Like you could drive. >> Wait, hold on. I'm sorry. I have to

Brian Atlasinterrupt. Why do girls include totally unnecessary, boring details? My friend was out there, but it's totally irrelevant to the story. >> No, it makes sense because she was out there. That's why I wasn't going to have him come, but then she had to leave. So

Jessethat's why I was like, "Oh, you could come." And I didn't think he was going to come. And now he and he did. He just showed up.

Jesse>> Story adding glitter to her story. Let the girl be. >> That's not glitter. That's That's [ __ ] uh >> If she was there, I wouldn't have even told him to come out. That was the

Brian Atlaspoint. >> I guess I didn't need to include it, but I >> You could have just jumped to Okay, so here's a bunch of stuff happened before this and I was born here and D and then this happened. It couldn't have just

Jessejumped to >> She would have been dumb by now, but I got >> What happened? What happened? He drove out to Vegas while I was on a vacation with my family and I ended up like ditching my family and hanging out with

Jessehim >> and that was it. But like we had never gone on a date. I had literally hung out with him maybe twice. >> Why am I crashing out over this? >> I don't know. >> I don't know what you want from me.

Brian Atlas>> No, it's not your fault. I just have trauma. I just have issues. Um, so anyways, uh, you said though, cuz I was really wanting to get into this, uh, you agree with a lot of what I say. Of

Brian Atlascourse, of course you do. >> Such a smart guy. Um, >> you you disagree with me on doing a man's laundry the first time you go to

Jessehis place. And then you said that's the uh, well, there's another thing, too. You said >> there is another thing. >> We'll get to that, though. You said it's weird, though. The laundry thing. Why is that? >> Yeah, because I can't lie. If somebody

Jessejust came over to my house like we're supposed to hang out and like you're not spending time with me instead you're doing my laundry and like I don't even know you and you're touching my things like that's really weird.

Jesse>> Oh, it it would be weird for somebody else to be touching your stuff. >> Yeah. Like you don't find that weird? Like if I don't know you and you're going through my things like even though it's for a helpful reason I find that

Brian Atlasstrange. >> Wait, question. You're now husband. you when he did the whole like and you never went on a date with him, right? He meet out meet met up with you in Vegas, right? Like crashed your family vacation.

Jesse>> Yeah. >> Did you just did you like hook up pretty soon like first date? >> Oh, so um Yeah. Yeah. Like we hooked up. >> You're married. It worked out. >> It worked out. It did work. Actually, he

Jesseasked me to be his girlfriend that weekend on our way back to Vegas or from Vegas. So, it did work out so good. It may have. But here's here's what I don't understand. It's

Brian Atlas>> you were saying how how could you let somebody touch your stuff? >> Okay, I see what you're saying. >> If I'm going to let if I'm going I guess this would be from the male perspective because I'm the one demanding she do my

Brian Atlaslaundry. >> If I'm going to allow allow this woman to s the D or we do P in the V, carnal knowledge. Yeah, she can touch my laundry. What the

Jesse[ __ ] I don't care. >> But like for the female perspective, >> it'd be weird to be touching. >> I think that's something. But you will put >> I think that's a childhood trauma. >> I think that's a childhood trauma. Be

Chloe (UK Goth)completely honest. >> Put a man's penis in your mouth but touching his laundry too much. A little too much. >> It just feels really gross to like handle a male pair of underwear.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Just something about it. They're like, >> I find it wrinkled up and like >> uh >> I don't want to touch that. >> No, I think the crazy part is like >> luckily there's like t-shirt. >> We'll have a one night stand with

Jessesomeone so random we don't even know who they are. We've never met them in our life when we I thought was that not I thought you met your boyfriend. >> So yes, but like I mean we had been talking. It wasn't like I he was a random guy.

Kelly>> I know that's what I'm saying. But that's still if you >> Thank you. It's I think it's still considered a one night stand if you um meet up with somebody the very first time and have sex and have sex with them. It's not a problem. A lot of people have it. But you did you you met up with this guy for the first time and

Jesseyou had >> No. No. So like we had hung out in a group setting but this I mean I guess when he came to Vegas that was the first time. Yeah. Us being by ourselves. >> Yeah.

Kelly>> So maybe you should save both for when you have commitment to each other. >> Yeah. I mean, >> it's late for a lot of us. >> I guess my argument is

KellyI don't know if people be [ __ ] and sucking and doing all this crazy sex [ __ ] >> but like doing laundry that's too much. >> It sounds crazy when it's said out loud, but that's just how like that.

Brian Atlas>> Well, for me, >> it's more common. It's more common for a woman to insert >> your penis deep into the recesses of her

Brian Atlasmouth and her tonsils deep back there. Oh my goodness. Deep [ __ ] causing throat damage and [ __ ] >> But you won't do a little wholesome

Chloe (UK Goth)laundry folding. >> I only have sex once I see someone's full panel test results. I don't have >> good for you. >> Thank you. >> Even for content. >> So

SPEAKER_00>> say that again. Even for content. Oh, >> but mostly for cold and tan. >> Mostly past George donated $200.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Thank you, Py. >> It's a homemade dress. Nice. Here you go. >> That's impressive. Seriously, >> it's not a costume. It's a dress.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Yeah, we got Look. Okay. Don't Why are you talking [ __ ] about her dress, bro? >> She's commenting on your bra. >> Why are you talking about her? Why you talking [ __ ] on her dress? >> I'm being nice. I love it. >> She's saying you're you're commenting.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. The fact she made it is sick. I'm also an artist. >> Not everybody. They don't have Hot Topic in Idaho. Okay. >> Well, guess what? We don't have Hot Topic in the UK either. >> Okay. Whatever. The UK version of Hot Topic.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> We don't have one. Thank you very much. >> Against Hot Topic. Hot Topic is so cute. >> I know. I do. >> I I'm saying you guys get your clothes from Hot Topic. >> Girl,

SPEAKER_00>> girl, why are weifying him today? >> George donated to >> J five. You and women like you give other women a bad rep as petty, immature, entitled brat.

Jesse>> Uhoh. >> Your ex dodged a bullet. >> We see through your BS story. >> Well, I will say I that was almost a decade ago. Like I'm a different person.

JesseI've grown with my husband and the way I view relationships and things. >> She grew. >> I did. I grew. I'm not the same. >> You didn't do the shout out of the comment that called me cool earlier. >> Oh, >> that was rude.

Brian Atlas>> Probably wasn't enough. Girl, >> it's below the threshold. >> I don't know how it work like that. >> I didn't spend enough money. >> Oh, shoot. >> Yo, DC Vin, thank for the It looks like you gifted 20 subs. Well, to in batches

Brian Atlasof 10. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. We got Josh Brooks here. I feel like laundry is the bare minimum. Bare minimum. It is. You know what? Doing a man's laundry bare minimum. So, question to the panel. What do you

Brian Atlasconsider the bare minimum versus the king treatment as far as doing things for your man after carnal knowledge? >> What's the bare minimum treatment >> for your man? Starting with Kelly

Chloe (UK Goth)>> that they should do to us or >> No, they do them. >> You do for them. Go ahead. >> The bare minimum. >> Bare minimum. Kelly, bare minimum. It should just be cook and clean and

Kelly>> sorry. Go ahead. Not laughing at you. >> [ __ ] suck. >> Cook, clean, [ __ ] suck. That's it. >> I mean, that's pretty or like be nice person like listen like you know listening like I think that's all bare minimum.

Jesse>> Yep. What about you? >> Bare minimum um loyalty. And I mean like if we're talking about chores, I mean like I guess taking care of the house like because he comes home and he's worked all day outside. I don't

Jessedo that. Even though I have a job, being outside is a totally different breed. But >> I mean, taking care of the It really is. It really is. I think I don't think I think people frown on blue collar work way too much. Um >> True. >> Yeah. Uh

Jesse>> true. >> And blue collar work gets paid, too. So >> Oh, yeah. >> They get paid. >> Yeah. >> Well, I mean, the trades are lacking right now. It's awesome. >> What do you think?

Sydney (LDS)>> In general or in my own situation? Uh well the so what do you consider the bare minimum >> as far as doing things for your man?

Sydney (LDS)>> Well I think um in my case it would be after marriage he would literally take care of me completely and have a house. So I believe having kids taking care of the house almost completely um creating

Sydney (LDS)a peaceful environment cuz a no man should come home to ter uh crazy household. So >> a quarreling wife. Yeah, a curling wife. Like, but what if you feeling some type of way? You don't want him to calm you down. You don't know the

Sydney (LDS)>> Well, of course, I can have emotions and have conversation, but at the same time, I shouldn't come home and be like, "My day was so hard." Like, of course, we can have of course I'll have hard days, too, as >> a man, >> but he's not your like dumping ground

Sydney (LDS)all the time. So, when he comes home, put his feet up, give him dinner, and then have a conversation with the kids. >> Massage his feet. >> See, I think that's king treatment. I think that's king treatment. Massages.

Brian AtlasLike that's extra. >> Bo wanting massages isn't a kink. >> If I marry somebody, my bad. Okay. I thought you said kink. >> No. No.

Malia>> Bare minimum. What's the bare minimum you should do for your man? >> I agree with Cali. Like cooking, cleaning, um >> [ __ ] sucking as she put so eloquently. >> Okay. No, I

Malia>> Okay, that part and all that, but cooking and cleaning definitely. >> Is it not bare minimum though? I mean, >> or is that considered? That's not considered. I I mean, I agree with you, but >> I would I would say that's bare minimum. >> I I Yeah,

Kelly>> bare minimum >> in a relationship. Yes. But not like when you're like >> No, no, no. Like in a relationship. Yes. >> Yeah. No. Especially not dating either. >> Yeah. Not Not dating. That's not bare minimum. >> Not bare minimum. >> Bare minimum. >> Carmen, I would say I'm not good at

Carmen (Arson)cooking. I'm not good at cleaning. I'm not I'm not good at a lot of things. So, my presence. My presence. Kitty cat. >> Your presence. I have a question for you after Chloe gives her answer.

Brian Atlas>> I forgot the question. >> Wonderful. We're going to skip you then. So, going back to Carmen, you said you don't cook, you don't clean. What? So if >> I know you would never do like people

Brian Atlasaren't gonna sell themselves in this some in this way, >> but if you had to word it, if you had to articulate it,

Brian Atlas>> what are the selling points of dating you?

Carmen (Arson)>> That's a good question. I can make you laugh. I can make you laugh. >> Make make you laugh. >> I can make him laugh and do it like that. >> All right. Cuz that's what I like. That's what like in a guy if they can make me laugh, I don't even care if they

Carmen (Arson)could be homeless. They could be this that. If you make me laugh, that's the only one. >> Wait, what did you write for the How much money do you want your man to make? >> I don't care. I don't care. Like as >> he doesn't care.

Carmen (Arson)>> As long as like I'm not having to like pay for you a lot. Like I don't mind splitting everything because I know it's a struggle because I rather personality matters more than money cuz I've never

Carmen (Arson)been like a money person. And like money is like such a weird concept to me to even have. I'm >> Well, didn't you say that you would just go have sex for the motivation of money? >> Oh, yeah. [ __ ] got to survive out here. [ __ ] got to eat. But like at the

Carmen (Arson)same time, I'm not like I'm not my future. Like I always just imagine being like happy emotionally and I don't think that's correlated with money in my life. Like you'd be happy sleeping on the floor with somebody who really takes

Brian Atlasgood care of you. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's fine. A lot of people are like that. Yeah. >> So, what are your selling points, though? You said you're funny. >> I'm I'm really

Carmen (Arson)>> You cried during and before sex. >> I'm a good listener and I'm good at talking about emotions. So, if they have emotional problems, come to me, baby. And if um

Carmen (Arson)>> Okay. >> Yeah. I would say uh and I'm really artistic. So, if they're artist, >> you're artistic. >> That too. But I'm really artistic. I make good art. So if they like art, we

Carmen (Arson)can make good art. >> Why haven't you made me a canvas? >> Oh, I don't make that kind of art. I make >> What do you do? >> I make digital art and I make resin art. I make lighters. That's why I'm called arson.

SPEAKER_00>> Oh, well, you should you still should have given us a gift, but >> Oh, sorry. Where's my gift? >> Pretty rude. >> I'll bring one next. Donated $200.

SPEAKER_00>> Look for the bare necessities. The simple bare necessities. Forget about your worries and your strife. I mean, the bare necessities, old mother nature's recipes that brings the bare necessities of life.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Imagine he paid $200 to >> I know that song, >> bro. Pasty George. >> Okay, >> he's got the money. >> He This is like >> George. >> Each of these is like

Brian Atlas>> I've got some content for you. >> He doesn't want to see your [ __ ] >> Why? He only the only only fans he w would would even consider he doesn't subscribe to og girls but if he did

Brian Atlas>> is that you >> yeah it's he's subscribing to my actually you know what yeah onlyfans.com/w whatever >> have you ever chulong >> huh >> have you ever have you ever subscribed to someone's only pants

Brian Atlas>> no >> you look like you were lying >> okay you're lie detector you look like you did kids disprove it >> why would you say that >> prove that you don't dle. >> But why would you say that though? >> Why would >> I believe her?

Chloe (UK Goth)>> What? >> I don't believe. >> But why would you say that about? >> It's unfalsifiable. How am I supposed to >> What is Yeah. What does that mean? >> He's saying that you touch kids.

Malia>> Yeah. Prove that you don't. >> I worked in at a daycare for seven years. Do you not say that? >> Yeah. This is what I mean. >> You look like you did little kids. Well, because you said you said, but you work

Maliawith Okay, but why'd you get so offensive? You didn't have to get so offensive. I was just joking with you. >> I diddle with kids hearts to make them happy.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> What the [ __ ] That sounds bad, too. >> Okay, wait. I didn't mean it like that. >> No more conversation about >> Maybe we should use that for anything. >> All right. I don't know. It looks like

Maliayou I don't know. It kind of looks like you um want to peg your boyfriend. I don't know. >> Me? >> No, Malia. It seems like she's into pegging your boyfriend. Prove that you don't. >> I like I said again, I was just I was just joking with you.

Brian Atlas>> No, but do you like to peg? >> No. >> Oh, it seems like it kind of looks like you were lying there. [ __ ] bro. It kind of looked like you were lying. >> I was just trolling. Okay. Oh my gosh. >> Right. Doesn't it look like she's lying that about the pegging thing? She

Brian Atlasdefinitely pegs me back. >> She keeps on coming back, too. Wait, that's why it didn't work out because she was trying to like peg too much and he was like having >> prolaps. I can't you guys like pegging. >> Anyways, whatever. Good talk.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> My boyfriend has been pegging. >> Oh boy. Okay. Anyways, whatever. Um, >> trying is the most important part. It really is. >> Pegging. >> So, no for him over there. >> I really respect you for trying at least.

Brian Atlas>> Oh, I get >> trying it. >> Just try in general. Mhm. >> Yeah. Men tend to be better at trying than at than women. >> God loves a try. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You're welcome.

Brian Atlas>> You know, >> men tend to be better at trying. What? Trying. >> Huh? >> Trying Peggy. >> I want to make like a really insensitive joke, but I probably shouldn't. Anyways, uh Okay. >> I won't cry. >> H

Brian Atlas>> I won't cry. >> No, it's okay. It's just It's not for you. It's for the for the other things. Uh let's see. We have Sydney here.

Brian AtlasUh actually uh hold on.

Brian AtlasWait. How women perceive men based on their meds. >> Mhm. >> Meds. >> Yeah. Like medications. >> Not that many men. >> What meds? What are the meds that men

Sydney (LDS)are taking? birth control specifically, but also um but also like depression drugs and antiscychotic drugs. It literally changed your perception of men. Um how women view men. So women,

Sydney (LDS)for example, birth control, a woman will go on birth control at I mean it's suggested even down to 10 year olds, right? It's it's very very young. So they'll go have birth control all the way through um puberty. They'll never

Sydney (LDS)have a real period until let's say that they're like 25 and they want to finally settle down and have kids. their whole hormonal um body is they don't even know what their body is what having normal

Sydney (LDS)puberty. So the way that they usually end up breaking up with their men and that's another reason for divorce is because they realize they don't like the men they dated while they were on birth control. >> Do you know how to churn butter?

Brian Atlas>> Did somebody say that? >> Somebody said that. >> These are the important questions that we invest. >> I do know how to turn butter and I do love making things homemade. So >> wait, hold on. Actually, this is totally

Brian Atlasimpromptu. Nick, pull up the Discord. Uh, I wanted to show, you know, I like women to do my laundry. I like women to

Brian Atlasbow for me. I like women to do all a variety of chores and various housework for me pretty much right away. Uh, I like I call it chore play. Chore play.

Brian AtlasNothing gets me more excited and turned on than the woman who makes my life easier, does chores around the house, cleaning

Brian Atlasimmediate just it's like primal. It's [ __ ] primal. I see it >> really traditional. Then >> she could be in a burka and but she's just like cleaning a toilet. I'm just

Brian Atlasimmediately just in the zone. I'm [ __ ] locked in, boys. [ __ ] locked in. >> I don't think you're alone. >> You also get turned on when >> No, but not me.

Kelly>> Oh, your boyfriend. >> No. Well, I mean, yeah, but like men get turned on by that. Like men love coming home and seeing their women like like what in lingerie like washing the dishes or something like >> Yes.

Brian Atlas>> Why not? >> Why wouldn't a man like that, you know? >> Or a burka. >> Or a burka >> doing the dishes. I'm not a Muslim, but

Sydney (LDS)She could be in a perka. >> Why do you think the granny night crowns work so well? >> Let me see them ankles. >> Good point. Do you have a Nick? >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> The very bottom of media. >> So, this clip has been going viral. I believe it's a traditional butter churning dance in Tibet. Full screen

Brian Atlasthat [ __ ] Nick, this I'm telling you. Start from the beginning. Sir, >> can I put my glasses on for the full effect? >> Nobody. Just Oh my. Just play it, Nick. Do what you want.

Sydney (LDS)>> I don't like it. >> I'm telling you, boys. >> Way to make a like a task fun. >> Yeah, maybe I'd be into butter turnurning if it was a whole day. >> Look at the technique.

Brian Atlas>> Play it one more time. One more time. Start it from the beginning. Look at this. You know, look, they they're doing something right into bed. >> That's an action. They're doing, you know, we got to get this as a sport in

Brian AtlasAmerica. >> Traditional butter turnurning. >> She's having a lot of freaks would pay for that. Look at the technique for this. That takes that takes years of

Brian Atlasdedication and training to get that amount of dexterity and wrist strength. That is >> And think about all the butter. >> Like

Sydney (LDS)>> I don't think it was really about the butter. Hey, that's you. That's something in your mind. >> That's something. >> Personally, I I've seen like the question go around social media where it's like, "What is the guy's version of

Sydney (LDS)flowers?" And it's always like banana bread and stuff. >> I heard Yeah, I heard banana bread, too. >> So, just some homemade bread on some really good. >> I prefer chocolate chip cookies. >> Doesn't matter. >> Banana bread's kind of gross. >> If it's If it's made correctly, then

Brian Atlasit's not. >> It probably just had a good day. You know, the the UK, England's not known for its culinary >> seasoning. >> You know, the the cooking, the food in England is not

Brian Atlas>> Maybe the food was too good for you. You might want to lay off it. >> I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. >> Are you calling me fat? >> I'm sorry. >> Okay, anorexic lady. >> Um, all right. Hey, it's cool. We both have eating

Brian Atlasdisorders. >> I'm not going to argue with that. Yeah. >> What's that? >> I said I'm not going to argue with that. Yeah. See, I'm spot on. I [ __ ] read that [ __ ] It's okay, though. I'm

Chloe (UK Goth)>> in the car. She said to me, "So, you have BPD, right?" She just read me. >> I didn't say it. She just goes, "How did she know? So, you have BPD?" >> How did How did she know? >> I don't know, but it was really It was

Kellysomething. No, they're like total soul sisters. Their senses were tingling. >> No, like their senses. >> Yeah. How was that car ride for you? >> Oh, no. It was interesting. >> Yeah, it was so funny. Were you guys just quiet sitting in the

Kelly>> No, that's how we are. Like we're honestly just I don't know. Like we saw each other two days ago so we kind of like chopped it up already so we didn't have too much to talk about. But I swear like once they got into the car it was just like them two like it was a perfect

Carmen (Arson)match. Like it was it was so fun. >> But I was also complimenting them cuz I think you guys are so slay. I think every I think all girls are so slay. I'm a girl's girl and I'm even if you have a different opinion than you, you're slay cuz you're a girl and [ __ ] are slay.

Brian AtlasOh yeah. >> What? Um, wait. What was the thing you said earlier about you not liking men? I'm trying to remember. >> No. What about it? >> I don't know. You said something about not liking men.

Carmen (Arson)>> Yeah, [ __ ] them. But >> uh, do you feel that way too? >> May. >> Yeah, >> sometimes. Well, okay. [ __ ] all men except for like

Carmen (Arson)I do have a best friend. My best friend is actually a man, but he's like 56 years old and he's like, >> "Have you had sex with him?" >> No. No. >> Does he provide for you? >> No. >> He's just he's just a really good artist and I respect him for it.

Carmen (Arson)>> He's not homeless, right? >> No, he gave me a home if anything. >> That's beautiful. >> So, like I think any man's a friend. >> Yeah, he's a friend. I think men who can be friends with you actually shout out

Brian Atlasthose men. But any men >> question if you real >> is he married? >> Nope. If you offered him a slice, would he take it?

Carmen (Arson)>> Maybe. I don't know. >> Does he want Does it seem like he's trying to [ __ ] >> Dude, we're like besties for the resties. I've known him for like a year and we're we're just besties.

Carmen (Arson)>> I love that for you. >> Yeah. He said his psychologist said he has like the emotional intelligence of a 20-year-old. So even though he looks

Brian Atlas>> Wait, question for you. What do you think about what's going on in England? >> What's going on specifically? >> I don't know what's going on. >> I'll be more specific. >> So that recently there was that viral

Brian Atlasvideo of that girl. I believe she was maybe Scottish or whatever and she was holding up the axe and the knife and some like immigrant was harassing her.

Brian AtlasAnd this I mean there's been brewing conflict in England but this has I don't know if that was like the major precipitating factor but now there's been all these people who are hanging up

Brian Atlasuh what's the name of the fl the the specific like with the red cross that flag is it the flag of England >> can I f >> you you're [ __ ]

Chloe (UK Goth)>> I stopped going to school at 16 my brain stopped working when I was 30 >> you live in London like isn't there Massive. Okay. >> I had more things to worry about like the psych warden and who was [ __ ] in the tea party.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> But that was 6 years ago. >> What is it happening right now? I don't know about the flag. What the flag is confederate >> like the rampant immigration. Okay, whatever. Um,

Sydney (LDS)>> UKIP question mark. >> So, what do you think about all that though? >> Nigel Farage. >> Oh my. >> Was it to do defense against immigrants?

Brian AtlasIs that the question? >> No, just there's been a lot of uh a lot of protests in England. It is the flag of England. The flag of the UK. What is it called? The what is there's a

SPEAKER_12name for it. >> St. George's Cross. >> No, the flag of the UK. Which one? >> Which one's that called?

Brian Atlas>> The flag of Great Britain >> or Okay. Do you have thoughts? No, >> I don't have any thoughts. >> Well, you live in London. I mean, have you been impacted by >> When was this?

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Have you ever dated an immigrant? >> When was this? >> This was like a week or two ago. >> Well, I'm here, so I don't know cuz I'm not getting the UK news. >> Does your family live in >> My parents are on holiday right now.

Brian Atlas>> You Okay. >> None of my friends care enough. >> Find the Find the Wikipedia for the flag of England. We'll show it to her. friends doing fun things, >> being gay and doing fun stuff

Brian Atlas>> like getting their losing their country to >> immigrants. That thing. >> Wait, what? >> I don't know. >> No, click on the flag. Click on the flag.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> I think he was right. You know, the St. George's Cross or something like that. >> Sounds about right. >> Yeah, >> but I was asking about the the flag of the UK, which is different. It has a nickname or something. Do you have it?

Chloe (UK Goth)Pull it up. >> The one with the blue on it. >> Huh? >> Just full screen it. >> Yeah, that flag. >> We don't use that flag. >> I mean, >> we use the one with the blue on it. I

Chloe (UK Goth)swear >> they've been using that flag. >> That one's like what they use for like the England football team. >> Okay. So,

Brian Atlas>> what was the question? [Laughter] You don't have any thoughts about what's going on in England right now? >> I guess you don't. You just don't know. You just don't know.

Brian Atlas>> I tried to not know about anything. >> Has England gotten better or worse since you were a child. >> London, I should say. >> I don't know. It's definitely got less safe.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> And is that >> there's more crime? >> Yeah. Why is that? >> Why? Cuz people are poor and they need to steal things. Yeah. Who? Okay. >> So,

Brian Atlaslook, listen. I'm an anarchist. I don't believe in any sense of government. So, >> you're an anarchist. >> Should I have not said that? >> No, it's fine that you said it. Uh, what? So, when you say you're an anarchist, >> I just don't believe.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> What does that mean? What does it mean to be an anarchist >> for me? >> Yeah. What does that mean? >> I just hate the government. I hate I really shouldn't be saying this on the internet. >> I mean, it's okay. Freedom of speech.

Carmen (Arson)Well, what about actually I take it back >> because I feel like I take it, >> you know, I mean the parts about government, you know, helping homeless people, healthcare, I feel like that shit's good, but like the government

Chloe (UK Goth)taking away. Yeah. >> Maybe in the UK is more to do with like the royal family. >> Oh yeah, they were they were kidding. >> We don't Yeah, we don't [ __ ] with them. Sorry.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> But the parliament would still be in would still be in power. So, you're not an anarchist. >> Yeah, anarchy would be what? A lack of government. >> I just don't like any of them. I don't

Chloe (UK Goth)like government. I don't like the royal family. I don't like higher powers. I don't like religion. >> Okay. >> It doesn't mean I don't respect any of it. I just don't personally. >> But so, anarchy that would indicate

Brian Atlaswhat? You don't want any government? >> Yeah. I think people should just >> just do what? >> Just >> Okay. So, question for you. >> Chill. Have fun. So if somebody commits a crime, how how do you deal with that

Chloe (UK Goth)under anarchy? >> Well, I think that it would probably just because I I believe in anarchy doesn't mean that I think it would be a good thing for

Chloe (UK Goth)the state of the world right now or I think it would have to like the the universe would have to start again for us to rebuild as like an anarchist society. >> The univer Hold on, let me repeat that. The universe would have to start. I

Chloe (UK Goth)don't [ __ ] know. >> America, the UK, whatever. >> We would have to start again as civilization to be able to rebuild doesn't an >> What does it mean to start again? >> Well, we none of us would be here.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> So, you want >> So, it's not important. My belief like me thinking I would want this to be I have these beliefs that I know it's not reality. That's never actually going to happen. So, I'm just saying it cuz

Chloe (UK Goth)that's >> So, you don't want humans to live on the planet? >> No. Are you Are you actually dense? Are you being intentionally dense? >> No. You You said that

Chloe (UK Goth)>> I fear you. >> There would have to be a restart and we would have to be here. Well, I'm just saying for that to actually come to fruition, for there to be no government

Chloe (UK Goth)and no anything, then we would have to restart cuz otherwise it's not going to happen. >> What does that mean? Restart. >> I don't know the world to explode to be multiple.

Brian Atlas>> Are you dense? That liter. Okay. >> If the world exploded, then >> then we wouldn't be here, would we? And then new people would come. So I that wouldn't even >> there wouldn't be new people. There wouldn't be a world and so there

Brian Atlaswouldn't be opportunity for there for an anarchy to exist. There would just be nothing. >> Yes. Which is why it's hypothetical, >> right? But so you're but when you're talking about an anarchy, you're not

Brian Atlastalking about some like extinction level event where all humans die. >> Where are you getting these thoughts from? >> It's your position. You're in fa. You want anarchy.

Chloe (UK Goth)So >> I just don't like the idea of government and I don't like the idea of monarchy and I don't like the idea of any of these things. I don't believe in it. It's not what I >> Yeah. >> I don't believe in it. >> People pay for healthare.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> No, they should. >> We should pay for healthare. >> I think everyone should like put a little bit in. >> Do people have a right to healthare? >> I mean depends. I think people give into society what they get out.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. So to my question though, >> I think everyone should work together, >> right? But my question if you do your job right but >> asked to do then you get >> back what you're owed

Brian Atlas>> under anarchy what happens when somebody commits a crime >> don't know depends what the crime is >> do you okay let me ask you a question

Chloe (UK Goth)>> but if we were to rebuild in a society where anarchy is like the thing that we are looking at right let's just think about that hypothetically

Chloe (UK Goth)>> in my head not saying it's true because guess what? My thoughts aren't always correct. I can just think. >> Yeah, go ahead. >> That's okay. >> Make the argument.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Um >> like we are we are going to rebuild in a way that the crimes that people commit now we're not going to have that line of

Brian Atlasthinking to make people want to commit crimes like that because we don't have things holding us back in society in the first place. So practically speaking though, what do you think is more likely some scenario where basically everyone's memory gets

Chloe (UK Goth)>> I understand the practical sense but I am to say yeah actually I think I prefer anarchy over whatever the hell it is right now. >> Right. But so you would prefer an

Brian Atlasanarchy that exists that that assuming society as it currently stands transformed into an anarchy and all governments dissolved. You would agree

Chloe (UK Goth)that that wouldn't deprogram criminals. >> So what do you do in an anarchy with I just show holes for a living? So don't get me involved. >> You said hold on. Yeah, that's fine. But

Brian Atlasyou believe in this thing. You said you're anarchy. >> Just because I believe in it doesn't need mean I need to know anything about it. >> Right. But I'm not asking you for like deep philosophical questions about anarchy. >> I think you are.

Brian Atlas>> It's lit. This is like very surface level. So I'm asking you for example, do you do you want to have kids one day? >> Maybe. I'm not sure. >> Okay. Do you have a sister? >> No, I'm an only child. >> Do you have any women in your life that you care about?

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Okay. If they were essayed, how do you what under anarchy? What is the >> kill the man? Yeah, we do it ourselves. >> Okay.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> Everyone in killed. >> You You just kill the man. >> Well, yes. Or cut his dick off. Why not? I actually did that. >> And so, but what if um what if you don't

Chloe (UK Goth)know? What if you don't know the >> when men sad me and then I told stop and we beat >> when men essay me I went to the police and they did nothing. So that's why I didn't >> There we go.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Right. So, okay. >> And in the UK, you're not even allowed to have like protection. You're not allowed um pepper spray. You're not allowed

Brian Atlasanything to protect yourself. So, are we really even like is the crime trying to stop the crime there now? Anyway, >> there's a lot of issues with the

Brian Atlasgovernment in in the UK. My Yeah, but my question is when crimes occur, >> how do we solve those? How do we address them?

Brian Atlas>> I think as a group of people wanting the best for each other. >> Okay. But so and that group of people is who?

Brian Atlas>> Everyone that is in the vicinity. >> But you would agree that certain people should specialize in certain things. >> Yeah. >> Like for example, somebody who's like a police detective or I guess under an anarchy there would be like a person

Chloe (UK Goth)who's like good at solving crimes. I would prefer it to be >> just a random person >> like like a therapist that specializes in like >> a therapist should investigate murders and

Chloe (UK Goth)>> no essays. >> No, like specializes in why people commit crimes like behavioral analysis kind of vibe. >> Yeah, that doesn't solve crimes necessarily.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Why do you need a sticker at the end to say you solved it? >> Maybe it would. What if we got therapy from like day one? What was that? >> This is what I mean. Therapy from day one. You fix the problem before it starts. >> At the root of cause. >> Yeah. At the root of the cause. Get

Brian Atlasthose dentists. >> So, okay. Um, who pays for the therapy? >> I don't [ __ ] know. >> Who's And then is there money in your anarchy?

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Yeah. Let's all just sell half. Maybe everyone would just give it. >> Let's trap all the really really rich people in like a cage and just like use

Brian Atlasthem like a money dispenser. >> Okay. So, in anarchy there is money. >> Do you want there to be money? >> Babe, we're restarting. You can

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Would you say Marxism matches your beliefs more? It sounds like a Marxist society. Anarchy. >> I will say again, I I stopped going to school when I was 15. I don't know what that is.

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