TANTRUM?! CRASH OUT?! Goth Girl Psych Ward DATING?! BPD Bipolar Girl LOSES IT?! | Dating Talk #258

Date: 2025-09-01

Duration: 7h 45m

Guests

Brian Atlas

CChloe (UK Goth)>

CCarmen (Arson)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_03Carmen (Arson)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Kelly(guest)

SPEAKER_05Malia(guest)

SPEAKER_06Jesse(guest)

SPEAKER_08Sydney (LDS)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Chloe (UK Goth)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Felicity(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduced

Key MomentChloe: psych ward 3 times, ~5 years total. 4-5 suicide attempts.

Key MomentCarmen: robbed 3-4 clients on ketamine from Seeking Arrangement

ControversyCarmen: slept with ~3 homeless men including one from a mission

ControversyCarmen's father put her on birth control at 13. Brian flags as potentially abusive.

Key MomentCarmen photoshopped fake herpes results and pointed gun on FaceTime

Key MomentSydney gifts Brian a Book of Mormon

ControversySydney's brother skip-traced Brian's personal phone during live show

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Chloe (goth/psych ward), Carmen (bipolar/BPD/former sex worker), Sydney (LDS/virgin), Jesse (married/child-free).

Chloe's Psych Ward History

3 admissions, ~5 years total. Self-harm. Suicide attempts. Snuck out to date.

Carmen's Sex Work/Robbery History

Seeking Arrangement $8K/month. Robbed clients on ketamine. Homeless men. Blood play ER visit.

Carmen's Father Enabling

Put her on birth control at 13. Gave the talk about masturbation at ~10.

Pit Bull Debate

Kelly defends pit bull Bashy. CDC stats: 66% of fatal attacks.

Sydney's Brother Skip-Traces Brian

Brother found Brian's personal phone number during live show and texted asking to remove Sydney.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasplease tell us your name, age, occupation, where you're from, and education. Go ahead. >> Oh my god. Wait, say it again. >> Holy [ __ ] bro.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Uh, my brain is empty. >> Name? >> My name is Chlo. C H L. >> Age? I'm 26. >> Occupation. >> Occupation. What do you think?

Chloe (UK Goth)>> I'll give you one guess. >> I don't know. Death metal vocalist. >> No. Oh, okay. Clearly, you think a bit higher of me than what I thought.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Uh, okay. So, you are in you are in a death metal band. >> No, I wish. >> I should be. I am an OAF model.

Brian Atlas>> OF model. >> Model. model. What? Like when you say OF model. >> OF vaka. >> Okay, I'll accept that. >> I don't know if I can accept OF model. >> I mean,

Carmen (Arson)>> you know, you know what I mean? >> But the definition of a model, you stand in front of a camera. So, it's like pretty much a model. >> I get paid for pictures of me. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> So, I fear that is a model. >> Feel like you're co-opting model too much. I don't know. You know. Yeah, you're trying and I fear you're failing. >> What am I uh what am I failing at? >> Making the explanation.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> No, it is a phenomenon. >> Okay, what's the next question? >> Well, it is a phenomenon where people are claiming to be a model. But when I think of a model, I think of like

Brian Atlasprofessional catwalk, professionally published in like magazines, this sort of thing. >> That's your definition of model? >> Yeah. >> Well, I post photos of myself on Instagram. Does that make me a model?

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Well, I guess if you're getting paid for it if you're doing an ad and you're taking photos of yourself for a company, that's technically >> Is that what But you said of model. >> Well, I get paid for it. >> You Well, you get paid for doing OAF. I

Brian Atlasget paid for doing social media and by extension of having an audience. >> Yeah, you can stop interrupting. >> Uh, so by extension of having, you know, a reach and following and an audience on

Brian AtlasInstagram, I can push them to my YouTube videos and I would monetize it that way. Does that make me a model? >> If you want to be a model, you can be a model. >> I am. >> Go on, say it. I know you want to be. >> I am a male model. >> There we go.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> I should have been featured in Zoolander. >> Period. >> Period. Period. >> Period. >> Period. >> Period. >> Uh, yeah. >> And that's on what?

Chloe (UK Goth)>> I've been featured in GQ. >> No, you I tried. Men's health. I tried. He didn't get it. I tried. >> You are a model. Look at you. >> I'm lying about that. Anyways, okay. Uh, >> where are you from? >> I'm from London. >> London.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> I'm from the UK. >> Have you been stabbed? >> Have I been stabbed? >> I hear there's a lot of stabbing. >> There is a lot of stabbings. So, I've stabbed myself, but I haven't been stabbed >> on accident or intentionally. You >> What do you think? That's going to be

Brian Atlasthe >> Was it like some Japanese har like Harari Sepu [ __ ] >> Huh? >> You said you stabbed yourself. You know Harikari seepu like when the samurai falls on his own sword because he dis he

Brian Atlasbrought dishonor to fam family. >> Is that >> what >> I think you just glitched? >> Yes, I did. >> I think I'm glitching. >> I think I'm making you nervous. >> I'm very nervous. I'm very nervous. My

Brian Atlasvoice is trembling. My hands are shaking. Maybe it's the caffeine. >> Can I ask a question about the stabbing? >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Did you get paid for it? >> Wait, she never said she got ped? Oh, I

Kellydid that to myself. >> I thought it was like an only fans only fans thing. Maybe >> that'd be crazy. >> No, I was going to say that'd be crazy. >> Wow. For coming up with selfarm. >> So, okay. Uh, you're from London. Were

Chloe (UK Goth)you born in London? >> I was born and bred in London. >> Born and bred. >> Born and bred. North London. I live near Wembley Stadium. >> Wembley Stadium. Okay, cool. >> But I don't live there now, so it's fine. No, I don't live there now.

Brian Atlas>> Oh, you used to. Okay, I see. like everyone >> and uh education. >> Education. >> Yeah. Did you go to college or uni? >> Uh I stopped going to school at 16. >> Okay. So, you dropped out of what's it called? Like primary school, high

Chloe (UK Goth)school. What's >> uh Well, I guess you do your GCES, which is like what you do before you go to college. College is 16 to 18. >> So, I don't know what that is for you guys. Like before you go to uni.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Okay. >> I dropped out the two years before. Two years before you're meant to go to uni. >> Okay. Have you done any uni or? >> No. >> Okay. All right. How long have you been doing?

Brian Atlas>> Since like 2021. >> Okay. So, you started at like when you were 21. >> Yeah. >> Okay. What do you do on there? >> What do I do on there? >> Is it solo content? Do you post tasteful

Chloe (UK Goth)gothic lingerie? >> Tasteful gothic lingerie. You know, I love that. >> Boy, girl content. >> Yeah, I do a little bit of everything. Come find me. CL Luna >> word. Uh, okay. >> Price right now.

Brian Atlas>> Ah, too late. Uh, >> you tried again. I'm not >> I know. I failed. I failed on the button. I have a million buttons. I didn't get to it. >> All right. Uh, that's cool. What about you?

Brian Atlas>> My name is Arson. And uh, >> what's your government name? >> Carmen. >> Carmen. >> Why don't you That's a nice name. Why don't you uh, say you're Carmen? Because all my friends have cute little

Brian Atlasnicknames and I was like, "All right, no, this not fair." When y'all need to come up with a nickname for me. >> Why? Why arson? >> Because I make lighters. >> Oh, you make lighters. >> Have you ever lit something on fire that

Brian Atlaswas technically a felony? >> Possibly. >> Have you ever >> But no. >> No. Okay. >> No. >> That you can admit on the podcast. I

Carmen (Arson)have a question for a guy. >> Is your name reflecting your views? >> Sure. >> Well, I'm not saying everyone go commit arson. That's obviously bad. But in

Carmen (Arson)terms of like just being like neurode divergent in some way or like >> what off from the normal?

Brian Atlas>> What's your divergence? >> I have bipolar disorder. BDD. >> You have Beckloid. What's that? >> Bipolar. >> Oh, bipolar. Sorry, I misheard. So you have bipolar and BPD. >> And BPD,

Carmen (Arson)>> possibly autism. Both my parents are autistic, but I don't know if I I never got like screened for it, but there are signs. >> So you have um >> but I have been diagnosed with bipolar and and BPT.

Brian Atlas>> So you have three plus >> Yeah. >> mental illnesses. >> Yes, we live. >> Yeah. >> Oh my word. This is one of >> You have the mentally ill. You have a

Brian Atlasmental illness hat trick >> together. We have like 12 the mentally ill actually. >> Okay. Um so bipolar BPD and others that

Brian Atlasokay fun um you know what I'm going to write a note talk about BPD bipolar. >> We'll come back to that. We're going to come back to it. >> Uh welcome back to the show. By the way,

Brian Atlasyou were on the show before. >> Uh if anybody's wondering which episode she was on, >> it was with the dog girl. the dog girl. And then she got she got uh retweeted by Elon Musk,

Brian Atlas>> right? >> Uh so you're famous. >> I I am famous. >> You are famous. Elon Musk retweeted a clip of you on our podcast. Um and

Carmen (Arson)you're also in a cult. You're in a cult. >> Are you still in the cult? >> Honestly, the cult has disintegrated. It >> disbanded. >> Yeah. That was very unfortunate. >> I wanted to join it. >> I'm kind of in a new cult, though. But

Carmen (Arson)>> there's another cult. Yeah. I don't know if I'd necessarily call this one a cult. We're more just like a band of like misfits. Like I I live with like seven people and we're all just like we're all

Carmen (Arson)artists. We live in like an artist loft with like a art studio on the living room and it's really just cute and slay. Everybody gets along and fights at the same time and it's Yeah, >> we're kind of a cult, but we're in like a band.

Carmen (Arson)>> Kind of a cult. A band. Do you play instruments? Uh, well, a lot of my like I have a one that's a DJ, one's a producer. Okay. And so like there's always music going on like every single

Brian Atlas[ __ ] day. So I would say Yeah, we >> Sorry. Remind me your age. >> I'm 25 now. >> 25. Okay. 25. Uh, what do you do for work?

Carmen (Arson)I used to do Only Fans and Seeking, but within the last six months, I recently just got employed with a real job and I work for Child Protective Services now

Carmen (Arson)at one of their temporary care shelters and I'm going to school to become an art therapist. >> But you work for Child Protective Services. Like what do you do? Do you go out on calls or what do you do?

Carmen (Arson)>> I So it's like it's like a shelter and it's like I'm one of the youth counselors. So basically when the kids get taken away from their family, they come in. My job is to make them feel better.

Brian Atlas>> I see. Okay. So you you're not going out to like >> calls or whatever? Nope. >> But how big how many people are in the shelter? >> Uh it's different every single night

Carmen (Arson)depending who comes in. But >> it's rotating all the time. Okay. >> It's not like long term then? >> No, they only stay a couple like a few days to a few weeks till we can find them at home. >> I see. Okay. Okay. What's the age

Brian Atlastypically? Are they >> just 18 under? So they could be like later >> and so like they could be five, they could be 16, 17, 18. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um and you you said you uh did seeking you did >> OF

Carmen (Arson)>> but not like totally done. >> I was I sucked at it. Like I was not good at it. I was a broke be like when I did that. So I >> [ __ ] >> I I was not slaying like these like or like like this girl right here. Like I

Carmen (Arson)was not making no money. I was so broke. So, I was like, >> "How much were you making?" >> Like 1,500 a month. Well, on seeking I made like 8,000 a month, but that came

Carmen (Arson)with a lot of like danger and stuff because I would try to rob them and they would come after me sometimes. >> What? >> Oh,

Carmen (Arson)>> wait. You try to >> Sometimes it just be too ugly. Like you'd be like, "Oh, I can do it." But then you get there and you're like and so you're like making drastic maneuvers to get out of there

Felicity>> while robbing them. >> Yes. Yes. >> That's so mean. >> Ugly. Yes. Girl. I mean like

Carmen (Arson)>> if you're having to pay for sex like you should know the rest, you know? I mean look at me. Do I look like I'm going to be there being like No, you're paying

Carmen (Arson)for a person that of my personality, you know? So you you buy at your own risk. >> Um. >> Wow. Okay. Um, so how many people did

Brian Atlasyou rob? >> No. Okay. Not that many. Not that many. I would only say like three or four. >> Just three. Casual. Three or four. >> Yeah. >> Did you um give Did you Oh, yeah. A little closer to the mic if you can.

Brian Atlas>> Did you give them uh like >> the sex? >> The sex. uh like mindaltering substances so it would be easier to rob them.

Carmen (Arson)>> No, most of the time they were giving it to me, but I liked that. That's always a plus. >> So you you >> It's like a tip. >> They would give you stuff. >> Yeah, I like I don't I liked it when

Carmen (Arson)they gave me ketamine. >> So you were committing robberies on ketamine. >> I don't >> I mean I'm usually like always on ketamine but >> Oh, okay. So, it's kind of just a baseline.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Yeah, I'm just kidding. >> You operate best >> with your robberies on >> You know what that is? That is actually now like a treatment for mental health.

Carmen (Arson)>> Yeah, it's like a therapy. It's like a literal therapy. >> Work. >> Well, I I guess she don't be ringing. >> My mental health is so much better. But I don't do it so often anymore cuz now I

Brian Atlashave a job. So, obviously, I can't do it at work. Have you ever robbed any of the children? >> No. No. I love the >> They're kind of vulnerable. So you >> Yeah. No, I don't do any drugs. That's

Carmen (Arson)like a reckless. >> Do you only rob men? >> Yes. Older men that have the money? You know, >> they can take the hit, right? >> They can take the hit. Like >> Okay. >> Mhm. >> Um >> I never rob any of my friends or anything like that. Like no. I like No.

Brian AtlasThat would be >> Are you less or more inclined to rob somebody if you're on ketamine? No, I would say that has nothing to do with it. >> Oh, that's separate. Okay, I see.

Carmen (Arson)>> All right. Um, any other kind of sex work like any escorting, anything like that? >> No, that was the only one was seeking, but yeah.

Carmen (Arson)>> But so you you said on seeking you were making $8,000 a month. So >> I'd usually have like like like 14 dates in a month or something. But so so you'd meet what what was the average

SPEAKER_02age of the men you were meeting? >> It could be anything. I I was with dudes in their deathbed like one foot in the grave. That [ __ ] was >> you wait. You went to a >> a hospice?

Carmen (Arson)>> No. He looked like he could be in hospice, but he wasn't. He was >> uh No, but >> he he was like trying to make me dress up like Marilyn Monroe. Like that's how

Carmen (Arson)old he was. like he was trying to get me to swing dance with him and I was like >> I was like what the [ __ ] am I doing? And then he got really pissed. He was like he was like acting like Marilyn and I was like what the

Carmen (Arson)but >> did did you go to uh swing dancing with him? Actually >> I tried to do it. He put me in these like big red heels but girl I know how to do is pump my fist. So like I was not

Brian Atlasfitting his fantasy and he was getting mad about it. >> Okay. Good times. Uh, good times. But, uh, so when you went on these seeking dates here, you know what? I'm going to

Maliarevisit that just for this just so I can get everybody's intro. Uh, what about you? >> Um, my name is Malia. I'm 22 years old. I'm in my senior year of college at Sea

MaliaSun studying communication studies. Um, I have a recept receptionist job at a med spa and I do content creation for

Brian AtlasTik Tok agencies. >> You do. Sorry. You do what is it? >> Which one? >> The Well, there's the med spa, you said. >> Yes. >> And then there's What is it for the Tik

Brian AtlasTok? >> Uh I like do Tik Tok like videos and >> Oh, you make the content. >> Well, yeah. >> Okay, gotcha. Uh any And you said, okay, you do comm or you're studying comm.

Brian AtlasWhere are you from? >> California. like uh Reading, California or like the Tijuana border. >> Okay. Victorville, California for all of

Sydney (LDS)my high desert people out there. >> Damn. Sorry to hear that. Um >> I know. >> All right. Uh welcome. Welcome. What about you? >> My name is Sydney Zufel. I'm 18 years

Sydney (LDS)old. Uh currently unemployed, but I I'm a military brat, so I've lived everywhere, but most recently moved here from Germany. Um, I'm unemployed because I'm about to start my freshman year up

Brian Atlasat BYU Idaho. So, just waiting to get up there. >> All right. And, uh, BYU, that's a LDS. >> Yeah. Brigham Young University, Idaho. Yes. >> But they don't

Sydney (LDS)>> they don't like Mormon anymore, right? >> So, it's technically a slang word, but um, so we prefer LDS or um, >> Wait, Mormon is like a slur. >> It's technically a slur, but >> Wait, hold on. Yeah.

Sydney (LDS)>> Wait, it's a slur now? >> Yeah. So, um, like obviously >> Wait, isn't the It's called the Book of Mormon. >> So, we're not named after the Book of Mormon. >> Sure. >> Yeah. But people started calling us

Brian AtlasMormon to call us out for that. So, >> Okay. So, you Mormons or sorry, LDS don't appreciate >> being prefer LDS. Yeah. But, yeah. Oh, yeah. Period.

Sydney (LDS)>> Okay. >> Uh, and you were living in Germany for your whole life or >> No, we were stationed there for three years. I lived there two years of the three. So, >> okay. You grew up in the US mostly or

Sydney (LDS)>> um yeah, mostly in the US, but we've lived in Mexico and um and then across the US and in Germany. So, >> Okay. Do you speak German? >> No, I don't. I was only there for 2 years and we're an American community, so it's pretty hard to learn the

Brian Atlaslanguage. >> What part of Germany were you in? >> Uh Bavaria. >> Bavaria. Okay. >> Your dad is in the military? >> Yeah, he is a military chaplain. >> What branch of the military? >> Army. >> Army. Okay, got it.

Brian Atlas>> All right, cool. And you are going to be studying what? >> Political science and costumeuming. >> Costumeuming. >> Yeah. Pretty polar opposites. >> All right. That's going to be Well, I

Sydney (LDS)guess BYU is pretty conservative across the board, right? >> Um the values of the church are generally conservative, but the school is just a liberal institution. Um >> Okay. >> Like colleges. Yeah.

Sydney (LDS)>> Cuz I feel like >> I mean family values. Yes. >> Absolutely. fellow uh family values followed but sure um yeah >> isn't it the case that that school at BYU

Sydney (LDS)so this is an LDS school in Utah right Salt Lake City or >> uh so there's actually four colleges there's Idaho uh Israel ID Idaho Israel Utah and Hawaii >> wait there's a BYU in the state of

Brian AtlasIsrael >> oh okay I didn't know um so and you're in the one you're going to the one in Utah though >> in Idaho >> oh in Idaho >> byi yeah >> okay I Um, what are there rules on

Sydney (LDS)campus? Like, isn't it the case that men or the the college men, they can't be in the same dorm room with a woman or something? >> I am living on campus and men are allowed in the in the dorms. The dorm

Sydney (LDS)policies change, so it's like mine is after I think 10 p.m. There can't be guys in there, but there's like a curfew. Um, but no, it's Yeah. >> Okay. >> There there are values that need or >> I see

Jesse>> uh standards that must be followed. So, >> all right. Welcome. Appreciate it. What about you? >> Hi, I'm Jesse. I'm 29 years old. I

Jessegraduated college in 2019, uh, with my business administration degree. Okay. >> Um, and I have a minor in communication studies. And I lived in California my

Jessewhole life. Um, except I moved out to Arizona last year. >> All right. Cool. And what uh what do you do for work? Um, I am the senior administrative assistant at a copper mine. >> Copper mine?

Brian Atlas>> Mhm. >> Could you get me a discount on some copper? >> We don't sell to the public and we're actually not in production yet. No. >> Oh, shoot. Really looking for the >> some copper? Yeah.

Kelly>> All right. Um, >> on your phone. >> All right. What about What about you? >> Um, hi everyone. My name is Kelly. I'm 23 from Los Angeles. I'm currently working as an associate editor at our

Kellymarketing company. Um, I'm a influencer and I do social media for Nordstrom and I also am doing Tik Tok live streaming right now. >> All right. Welcome, welcome back. You're you're a regular. You've been on the show.

Brian Atlas>> You're one of the OGs. You've been started coming on in 2023. So, >> yeah. It might have been before that 2022. >> I don't Wait, >> maybe >> actually. Wait, maybe >> it might have been. Yeah, >> could have been. >> Mhm.

Brian Atlas>> Somebody find somebody find out. Somebody find out in the chat uh when she came. All right. Uh All right. What about uh Felicity? >> My name is Felicity. I'm 19 from Santa Barbara.

Brian Atlas>> 19. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. You know, people don't age as fast as they do in the UK. >> Um 26.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Sorry, did I say that out loud? My bad. >> Wait, what? Sorry. Oh, Felicity, you're what? Have you know that when I go to the supermarket, they won't even let let me buy Red Bull?

Brian Atlas>> Cuz you have to be 16. >> Wow. Okay, cool. Did you finish your intro? >> Yeah. >> Oh, okay. Rock and roll. All right. Uh, we're going to get into relationship

Brian Atlasstats here in just a sec. Let me We're testing out this new thing with some of the messages. I'm sorry for the delay on these guys. Mike Davis, I apologize.

Brian AtlasOur StreamYard is broken. Not sure why. Let's see. Hold on. Did it come through? There it is. Her brain one on her. Okay. Oh, wait. You guys, don't worry about

Brian Atlasthese. Okay. Um, I'll get those pulled up in a sec. Mike Davis. [Music] Uh, so going around the table once more. What's your relationship status? If you're single, how long have you been

Chloe (UK Goth)single? And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in? I am single and how h >> how long you been >> I've been single for like two years.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Okay. >> Um and the longest relationship I have been in was like a year and a half. >> All right. Was that the one that ended two years ago? >> No, that one was like a year. >> All right. The most recent one. Who

Chloe (UK Goth)broke up with who? >> I broke up with him. >> The year and a half one. The longest one. Who broke up with who? >> I broke up with him. Okay. Uh, why for both?

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Well, kind of. Well, I guess they both were just like more interested in like

Chloe (UK Goth)themselves. >> Okay. >> They didn't want to do things together. They wanted to do things apart. >> Like what?

Chloe (UK Goth)>> I don't know. I can't remember. It was like 2 years ago.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Okay. >> My brain doesn't go back that far. >> Is it the ketamine? >> I don't do drugs. I'm sober. Sober, boos. >> Okay. Um,

Brian Atlas>> it's just the mental illness. >> Gotcha. Gotcha. Uh, okay. And, uh,

Carmen (Arson)so Okay, I'll come back. What about you? >> Me? Uh, I've been single two years also. Um, my longest relationship was four years.

Brian AtlasUm, is that out of question? >> Yeah. So, longest relationship four years. Is that the one that ended two years ago? >> Mhm. >> Who broke up with who? >> I had to break up with his ass. It was

Carmen (Arson)so hard. I love him so much. >> Why? >> Because he was going like really hard off the perks and also he was like becoming a demon and also he got cancer and he had to get his egg amputated. I told you about that last time.

Carmen (Arson)>> He got his what? amputated. >> He got his leg amputated. >> Oh, leg amputated. >> But there was just like so much and he was getting so mean and it was really making me cry every day. But yeah, so I had to leave him. >> Good times.

Malia>> Yeah. Long story. >> All right. What about you? >> Um I'm newly single. It's probably been like 3 days. Um that was my longest relationship and it lasted three years.

Brian Atlas>> Oh, wow. Okay. Just ended three days ago. Three-year relationship. Who ended it? >> Me. >> Why is that? >> He just wasn't growing up.

Brian Atlas>> Wasn't growing up. So, you guys dated from like 19 to 22? >> Yeah. >> Same age? >> No. >> How old was he?

Brian Atlas>> He's 27. >> 27. Okay. And you're 22. All right. Um, he wasn't growing up. So, he's 5 years older than you, but immature, basically.

Malia>> Yeah. which is I mean I thought men's brains developed around 25. >> It's not always the >> Drag him, girl. Drag him. >> No, no, not dragging him, but it just was taking a little longer. And um

Malia>> we're going to wait it out with that one. >> Uh have you guys ever broken up before? >> No, this is like our first like breakup. >> First and last breakup. >> Well, okay. Well, I'm not telling the

Maliafull story. >> Yeah, you're not. Uh, do I go into that right now? >> Uh, yeah, sure. You can give us a short version. >> I'll give you guys a short version. So,

Maliawe kind of broke up in um late May and then two weeks after we're still back in contact and trying to work on our relationship, but then May to August and

Maliasomething happened in August, which was a few days ago, and I finally came to my decision that it just wasn't working. And he just wasn't getting better. and being the man that I need him to be in order for us to continue this three-year

Brian Atlasrelationship. >> Did he cheat on you? >> No. >> So, what was the thing that was the issue? Like, was there a specific event?

Malia>> I mean, yeah, but it's it's it's based off immaturity. It's just, you know, not >> He was immature. >> Yeah. Just not

Malia>> Yeah. What did he do? >> Okay, fine. Um, basically Jess was having a um a breakdown on like his own life as a man and being a a provider and

Maliajust like coming to the realization that there's a lot of things that he is lacking as a man and it was kind of projecting in our relationship and it was kind of pushing me um away from him

Malialike but he didn't know that he was doing that and I kind of came to my decision that I just don't deserve that and I think I give him everything as a woman and he's lacking a lot of things

Maliaas far as just trying to become more mature um trying to move on with his life. So then I decided when I was in college in finals, he did something very hurtful by not wanting to listen to like

Maliamy finals and what I was going on in my life and I realized I don't feel much as a partner to him um that I should be in a three-year relationship. I feel like he should be invested in me as much as

MaliaI'm invested in him and what he's doing. So then I decided to split ways and um we got back in contact again two weeks after and he still did something immature, >> which was what?

Malia>> Um I had a breakdown before this um this semester of college cuz I was just kind of like I live on my own now. I pay all my bills and I'm kind of stressed out

Maliafor this new semester as a senior. and I had a breakdown and I wasn't really wanting to talk to him cuz I kind of res at him as my man in a way and uh he

Maliadidn't like that I needed space. So what he did is he went to Instagram and uh followed his ex from 10 years ago.

Brian Atlas>> What the [ __ ] Um you mentioned though that you had a breakdown. So what does what does that mean?

MaliaI kind of I kind of just got a lot of anxiety and I got a little in my head about like my relationship with him and like about

Malialike what's going on in my life and like just being very stressed out and I and I just talking to him just made me more mad like in that that moment like I don't want to talk to you cuz you're a main source of my issues right now and

Maliait just doesn't make me feel any better like what what you've put me through and then you trying to be here for me right now. I I just it makes me more angry because it should never got to this point. I shouldn't be an independent

Maliawoman without you. Like you want to be in my life, but like we should be boyfriend and girlfriend. You should be, you know, investing in me as I invest in you. I shouldn't be living in my own

Maliaapartment now. I shouldn't be like, you know, it it's just he wants to make up for his mistakes. And I and I gave him the opportunity to do that. But for some reason, I just got frustrated

Maliatalking to him again. I kind of don't know if I want to be an independent Malia or be a Malia that's with my, you know, exartner. I wasn't sure. >> Were you guys living together at any point?

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Oh. Uh, so you were dating him for 3 years. How long were you living with him? >> A year. >> At the end, right? >> Mhm. >> Okay. So, you guys still currently living together? No, I moved out when I like >> three days ago.

Brian Atlas>> No, I moved out in May. >> Oh, okay. Moved out in May. >> Yeah. >> And then broke up three days ago, but you were living together for a year. Was he paying all the bills? >> No. >> Uh, most of the bills.

Malia>> Yeah. >> Or was it 50/50? >> He He was paying most of the bills, but like my independent bills, like my car payment, my phone bill. >> Oh, okay. But was he paying the the rent? >> Yes.

Kelly>> Okay. Okay. Was he paying for the food? >> Okay. Well, >> your friend Kelly won't say anything. >> Your friend Kelly's got I'm going to let her say whatever she wants to say about it. She has the

Kelly>> um So, okay. He was paying the rent. How much was the rent? >> Tell her [ __ ] about that. I mean, that's not that big of a deal. >> You got this. >> Okay. >> Well, you don't have to say how much. I'm just saying like this the living

Maliasituation. Just it it makes more sense of like the whole the whole thing. >> Okay. There's absolutely no judgment in my situation. So, let's not judge everyone. >> So, um we lived we

Malia>> no judgment. >> No judgment. >> Uh we lived in a in a back house of a family member of his. >> Okay, that's fine. >> Yeah, I don't think that's weird. >> There wasn't like a big rent portion

Maliathat was due. Um, but he did pay like utilities and like all of like the streaming networks for like his family and and us, but I would pay like a

Brian Atlasmonthly 150 as part of like my rent. >> So, he was living there for free. Do I have that correct? >> Yeah. >> But he was paying utilities, but it was

Brian Atlaslike a family hookup, so he wasn't paying rent. >> Yeah. >> Okay. But you were living with him for

Brian Atlasrentree. Um, okay. Um, and he would pay for food and stuff. >> I'm sorry. >> He'd pay for food.

Brian Atlas>> Yes. >> Okay. And and all the household expenses, but he wasn't paying for your bills. >> Correct. >> You said car. >> Yeah. like he kind of he kind of his

Maliaperspective is like he's working towards like you know being the provider of you know being a man that like takes care of a woman and kids etc right

Malia>> and like he wanted to be um able to do that so that I pay for like going shopping on my own and you know like if I'm at school like I'm able to buy myself lunch like he want me to be able

Maliato do those things like still be independent that's just how I am naturally But there was some little odd things about um the living situation like as far as like it was a 150 that was required for me to pay for. A lot of

Maliapeople will say that he should have been paying for it because he's not paying rent. So it's like at least like if I live with you and you're my man like you kind of should be paying the bills and I agree with it, but at the same time I

Maliajust couldn't judge him. I'm just so used to being independent. I guess I was just grateful like to be able to like have a shared space with him and be able to do like my own responsibilities like go to college, have a job, have

Maliainternships. So, I'm a very grateful woman. >> But I think I looked back on a lot of different things and was like, "Oh my god, like >> you couldn't pay that 150 for me or like

Maliayou couldn't step up to the plate or like did you not want to? Could you not afford it?" And part of me is like, "He could afford it." So that's not true. >> Okay. Um, earlier on you said that you were I tell me if I'm misquing you. You

Brian Atlasgave him a lot. >> Yeah. >> And he wasn't doing his part or something like that. >> Yeah. >> Uh, when you say you gave him a lot, what were you giving him? What does that

Maliamean? >> Um, I just didn't give him any problems. Like I had no baggage. Like I brought no

Maliabaggage to the relationship. Loyal. right away like oh like and I know loyalty it should be a given thing like I know well in the dating >> sorry one sec Carmen could you it's not a big deal

Brian Atlas>> uh just take it off because even when you move it kind of clanks a little bit >> if you can just take it off continue go ahead continue >> okay um

Maliaum what I mean by that is like I felt like I was a just a very good girlfriend like very devoted very loyal like you know I would you know what I mean Like, oh, do you say that? >> Isn't that a given though? I mean,

Malia>> no, it is a given. But that's not always a given. And like our dating society, like women are not always >> Okay. >> But if you've been dating for 3 years, I loyalty is kind of assumed and

Brian Atlasestablished. >> Okay. What I mean by that, like [Music] >> like as far as when I mean loyal like I >> You said you gave him peace or sorry, what was it you said you didn't give him problems or >> Yeah. I just I wasn't problematic. Like

Brian AtlasI didn't bring baggage into the relationship. Like no act. >> Wait, but you said what precipitated the breakup is you had a breakdown. >> No, that's not >> Didn't Didn't you say you had a breakdown? >> That's a That's post breakup. Like we

Maliaare still We're broken up. We broke up in May. I'm talking about in August 3 days ago. >> Hold on. Wait. I'm confused. You said you >> Yeah, before. >> So you broken up twice? >> No, >> but you said you've been single for 3 days.

Malia>> Okay, let me >> But you broke up in May. Let me rephrase >> August. >> So May, end of May, I we split. I moved out. >> But through that split, we were still like trying to work on our relationship.

MaliaAnd it was starting to get more serious within July and August of us really trying to work on our relationship, getting back together. But then I'm having issues with what he put me through. And us being back together, it

Maliait was giving me like insecurities. is like I kind of sometimes I'm like I don't know if this is the right thing to do is continue this relationship or move forward and just try to work on myself

Maliaum without him. So in this time I'm trying to work through our relationship but I'm having trouble with like moving on from what happened in our relationship.

MaliaHence why we broke up in the first place. And so one of these nights, which was like three days ago, starting my senior year, I had this epiphany that this is just a lot of stress that I am

Maliafeeling. And I don't know if being back with him is worth it because I'm seeing he's not really growing. And that's when I was, you know, trying to push him away. Like not sure if this is working

Brian Atlasfor me. >> Wait, so you guys, you said you kind of split up in May. Mhm. >> So May, June, July, August, 3 4 months. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> You guys have been in a 3 to 4 month breakup negotiation. Is that >> Yeah. >> And was he not wanting it to be there? >> No, he did. >> He Oh, he wanted to break up or he

Maliawanted >> No, he wanted He wanted to be with me. He he realized all of his all the things that he was doing. >> But you were on the fence for 3 to four months or >> Well, a lot's been happening. like I I had to move to Orange County from Los Angeles.

Malia>> Wait, are you guys long distance? >> We were for a little bit that there's a lot more to the story. So, if it's not making sense, so I had I moved out of LA to go to Orange County for like 2 months until I figured out my finances to move

Maliaback to LA. >> Once I was able to do that, I moved back to Los Angeles and that's when things obviously I started to see him physically. So, two months, no, we didn't see each other. >> Okay.

SPEAKER_00>> It was just long distance. And then, >> oh, we have P >> George $200. >> Thank you, man. >> Chair three, she means he wasn't doing what she wanted.

SPEAKER_00>> He is most likely one of the men of 8 to N on the attractiveness scale of 1 to 10. >> In other words, she couldn't control him. L MFAO. >> Oh,

Kelly>> do you want to response pasty to it? If you don't want me to, Malia,

Kelly>> go for it, Kelly. Um, eight or nine is very generous for this peon who again sorry. Why can't you pay $150 for your

Kellygirlfriend? Huh? Doesn't make sense to me. So, yeah, she won. W >> What did he do >> for Malia? >> Like for work? >> I don't know. Real estate. >> Drug dealer.

Brian Atlas>> No. No. >> I mean, what what part of he was in LA where you guys were living together? Yeah. >> Like, was it a nice area >> or was it the the

Brian Atlas>> the ghetto? >> No, >> it was nice. >> Not at all. >> I mean, $150 rent contribution living in Southern California.

Kelly>> I don't think it's the worst deal for a a young couple. >> It's the It's the fact that he didn't have any bills to pay. That's what I think is the problem with it. It's if the It's like

Brian Atlas>> But he's paying the utilities, right? He's paying for all the food >> utilities. Utilities. What? $300? >> He's paying for the Netflix for the $20, >> the Hulu, the Amazon Prime, >> the $15. >> I'm grateful and I

Malia>> a month. That [ __ ] adds up. >> Yeah, I know. You're grateful. >> I'm saying grateful for it, but there's obviously more to the story than I'm, you know, that I've sad. >> Um, >> you beat him up. >> Cherry on top. >> You beat him?

Chloe (UK Goth)>> No. >> What? Oh, sorry. I must have my ears are playing tricks on me. >> So >> you did you >> Is that what you want someone to do to you? >> Is that what you want somebody to do to

Brian Atlasyou? >> Is that >> No, I don't know. [ __ ] I sometimes uh I don't know. Just I get intuitions, but sometimes I'm wrong. >> Not getting flustered. >> I don't know. You seem to be getting

Carmen (Arson)flustered. >> Me? I'm just chilling. Okay, cool. Thank you. >> Her with a age joke, but that don't even make no sense. >> That's like 30 minutes ago. >> Were you looking like the dude who was one foot in his grave? Who I was hooking

Brian Atlasup with? So, like, make it make sense. >> She said >> I I looked like the dude that you were hooking up with >> that was sitting in his grave. >> Closer to it. Closer to it. >> I mean, I looked like him. You You [ __ ] him for money. I mean, that seems

Chloe (UK Goth)like it's >> not for money. For money. >> Yeah. That's not for free. >> It's still bad. >> Of course, not for free. That's still bad. >> Worse than having >> I mean you wish people would pay you.

Carmen (Arson)>> I I wish pe people would pay me to >> You sound like you get no [ __ ] >> What? Um okay.

Carmen (Arson)>> What? What do uh you say I sound like that. What what about what I'm saying makes it sound like that? I mean, any man who would come for a woman's age just that just >> that just gives

Carmen (Arson)>> What did I What did I say? Remind me what I said. >> You I don't really remember. >> She doesn't even remember what I said. >> It has something to do with her age, though. She said something about my age. >> Yeah, she said you look young.

Carmen (Arson)>> No, she said you're 19. >> Yeah, like in a way that you're beautiful and usually 19-year-olds look like >> I don't care. I'm just saying that she made a comment and then he made a comment. >> Yeah, but her comment wasn't inherently bad. >> No, I'm not offended. But I'm just

Carmen (Arson)saying that's where it came from. >> Yeah, but her comment wasn't a bad word. It was just like, "Oh, you look beautiful. You're 19. That's crazy." >> I love causing mystery. >> You even take it as bad. >> Then why did he say something back that was bad?

Kelly>> What did he say? >> What? What did he say? I >> think you said something people in the UK. >> People in the UK must age faster. >> Yeah. People here don't age as fast as the UK. Yeah,

Brian Atlas>> that'd be [ __ ] topical because she was surprised that I assume the implication here is Felicity >> looks >> older, younger. I don't know the implication.

Carmen (Arson)>> I'm making an assumption. Interesting. It was a joke. Is that offensive that Brian said that? >> I mean, she probably wasn't offended, but I just don't I just didn't like hearing it. >> You were offended. >> I wasn't.

Brian Atlas>> Bro, you literally [ __ ] robbed people. What the [ __ ] >> Okay. And >> you've admitted to multiple felonies on the podcast and you're offended that I made a comment about not her age, but the age of >> say I was any better.

SPEAKER_12>> Be quiet. >> The age of people in the UK. >> Yeah, but >> I want a girl. >> But I picking shoes like these are >> She's for the girls. I'm

Carmen (Arson)>> exactly. You don't get it. This was towards a man. >> Yeah, I don't get it. >> You wouldn't. You simply >> Right. You wouldn't cuz you're a man. It's probably not there yet. >> He was defending me, right? >> But he wasn't defending you because she

Carmen (Arson)didn't say anything bad towards you. So, he was literally just attacking her for no reason. >> Bro, you're tripping. [ __ ] lay off the drugs. Holy [ __ ] >> [ __ ] >> Maybe you should try drugs. It sounds like you should try them. >> No, I'm okay. >> Maybe if you did some acid, you would be kinder.

Brian Atlas>> I'd be [ __ ] like you. >> I actually love being [ __ ] Actually, >> wow, that's a Thank you. Clip it and ship it, boys. She admitted that she doubles down on the retardation. Okay, cool. So, anyways, moving on. have a hat that's

Brian Atlas>> good derailing though. Well done. That was a good derailment while while I was having a good back and forth with uh Malia here. Okay. >> So, anyways, back to Malia. Uh okay.

MaliaYou're dating this guy. Whatever. You were upset that you had to pay >> said that. Who said I was upset about it? >> Oh, I guess Kelly was upset on your >> upset. Yeah. I never I literally said

Maliamultiple times that I was very grateful for our circumstances. I never said I was. >> Yeah, for sure. She She was I I was more mad for I'm more mad about it than she is. >> Wait, hold on. I got I'm sorry. I have

Brian Atlasto come back to this. >> [ __ ] Carmen. Carmen, bro, hold on. You're like, you look like you don't get [ __ ] or some [ __ ] bro. Last show you said you were you called yourself a fem cell and I'm pretty sure you DM'd us

Brian Atlassaying >> that you're still a fem cell. >> But I didn't say I'm any better. I just said you also look like that. So we're both in the you you're suggesting gladly gladly we're both in the same predictor. I don't get no [ __ ] Okay. >> Yeah. You're just pissed off about it.

Brian AtlasShe's embracing it. >> But but that's like >> that's the difference. >> I mean it's somewhat unders even if it was the case that I was struggling to get [ __ ] Uh even if that was the case

Brian Atlaseven if it was the case >> it would occur to me that it's so easy to get dick but you must be so offputting >> that you're a fem cell. Mhm.

Brian Atlas>> I mean, that seems to be like a bigger indictment of you than it would be of me. >> I probably am very off-putting, but I still love myself being off.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Have you thought for a second for like maybe we dress ourselves to be off-putting for people like you? >> Yeah. >> For me, >> we do that on purpose. >> Thank you.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> You are so welcome. I'm glad we have an agreement. like a warning. It's a warning sign. >> We do it for your benefit. >> Um, so I I appreciate that. You're so welcome.

Brian Atlas>> No, I think it's good. I think it's good that uh women, you know, have signs, you know, like how the poisonous frog is often brightly colored. So, these women

Brian Atlaswho put like color in their hair or, you know, the tattoos, I think it's it's a really good warning sign for men to be like, >> "You're so welcome. Don't date these

Brian Atlaswomen because they will ruin your life. >> That's >> Come on. You How many lives have you ruined? >> You robbed people.

Carmen (Arson)>> Okay, but like they deserved it for being for being ugly. >> I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I I don't say that. Ugly people matter too. And also I'm ugly to some people, so that's all subjective. But um Okay.

Brian Atlas>> Honestly, I forgot what the question was, but yeah. [Laughter] Okay. Um, >> it's good though. It's good. Um, okay.

Brian AtlasSo, anyways, we need to we need to finish up everybody's relationship status. What about you? >> I am single and I have never been in a relationship. So, >> all right. Um, any any dates? Ever been on a date?

Sydney (LDS)>> I've been on Oh, yeah. Of course, I've been on dates, but um just we've moved so often that it made it difficult to actually have a relationship and I also want like I believe in dating to marry and obviously I'm too young to date to marry. So, I wanted to wait till I was

Sydney (LDS)ready. So, >> how old? >> How old? I mean 18. >> No, I mean after you said you're waiting to date to marry. So, >> I mean I would love to be in a very loving, healthy relationship right now. I mean, but

Sydney (LDS)>> but what age are you going to start to date? You said you're too young to >> Well, I just meant like under 18. Obviously, you you shouldn't get married if you're dating. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Well, are you waiting? When would you like to be married by?

Sydney (LDS)>> Um, well, I do believe in getting married young. I don't know if 18 is exactly too young, but I would love to be married by 25. Yeah.

Sydney (LDS)>> Okay. How many dates have you been on? >> Oh, um, I don't know. It's just wherever we go there's a few guys and I'll go on dates and they're usually they're always

Sydney (LDS)really fun. So I don't know. Um >> I mean have you dated like 50 guys or >> No. No. Like probably 15 maybe 20 dates. >> First dates? >> Mhm. >> Any second dates? >> Yeah, there's been a couple. >> Third dates?

Sydney (LDS)>> No. >> What's the long Okay. So it's only made it to the second date. >> It It's more of just like friend group. It's like a group date. So you just go and do something fun. So it's not really

Brian Atlasoneonone. Yeah. >> Uh, okay. Um, and are you your LDS? Are you waiting until marriage before you have carnal knowledge? >> Yes, sir. >> And you are not moon

Sydney (LDS)>> like learning about have sex. >> Sex. >> Yeah. >> No. Sex before marriage. >> P and the V. >> Oh, I'm >> Yes. I believe in waiting until marriage. I think it's the >> You are a virgin. Is that correct? Virgin. Okay.

Brian Atlas>> All right. Waiting until marriage. >> All right. Do we have any any Mormons in the chat who want to uh >> I believe I'm the first LDS member to be on this podcast. >> No, we've we've had some Yeah, we've had a couple. >> Oh, good. Can I ask you a question? Yes,

SPEAKER_00ma'am. >> Before you do, one sec. Hold on. We have Sorry, Pasty, for the delay. [Music] >> Pass George donated $200. >> Yo, thank you, Past.

Brian Atlas>> Holy [ __ ] Your voice and manner of speaking are more annoying than chair MFA. Yeah. Who's chair three? I think >> uh chair three and then Kelly's chair six. Hey, be nice to Kelly. She's a

Brian Atlashomie. >> Kelly's the homie. She's >> the homie. >> Okay, >> be nice. Thank you, George, for the TTS. Appreciate it. Okay, you have a question

Chloe (UK Goth)for >> um if it's too invasive, don't answer, but are you allowed to wear tampons? >> Yes. Yeah, >> that's a good question. That was a good question. I've actually never thought about this. Can I ask a question? >> A really good question. Yeah, of course.

Sydney (LDS)>> So, have you ever done that thing where they shake the bread? >> Oh, soaking. Um, what? >> So, in the culture, people like try to find loopholes. You know, with every standard, there's a loophole.

Sydney (LDS)>> It's a common joke to have a loophole. If you're an actual committed member, if you actually cared about like your reproductive health and wanting to have a healthy relationship, you wouldn't actually be pursuing that and trying to find loopholes. If you are, you're

Sydney (LDS)probably not, you probably don't care about the church very much. So, >> yeah. >> Valid. Invalid. >> Oh, and can I comment on the tampon thing really quickly? >> Sure. >> Oh, so the tampon thing, that's like a feminine care product. So, it doesn't really have anything to do with sex. It's just a feminine care product. So,

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Okay. >> Yeah. >> So, anything healthare and like feminine care wise, it doesn't make a difference. >> As long as you can take >> it is allowed. Okay. >> Allowed. It's just normal. >> What about you?

Jesse>> I am married. I've been married for 4 years, but uh we've been together for nine. >> Okay. Is this your longest relationship? >> All right. Any kids? >> No. >> Planning to have kids?

Brian Atlas>> No. >> Oh, okay. Uh like 100% set on that? >> 100% set on that. I've been like that my whole life, though. >> Okay, gotcha. And um pets?

Kelly>> Yes, I have two black labs and they're at home waiting for me. >> All right, cool. What about you, Kelly? Um, I am in a relationship and we have been together for 4 years now.

Kelly>> Damn, I think four years. >> Yeah, it's been a while. >> When's he going to pop the question? >> I don't really want him to. >> Oh, you don't want to get married? >> Not yet. No, I I'm I I want to. Yeah,

Kellybut um I see >> I like >> my wedding I want it to be really specific and I know it's going to take a while to plan. So, >> what do you want? Well, something intimate, but like it's going to be I

Kellywant to do everything. I don't want to hire a wedding planner. I don't want to have other people doing it. Like I want to make like the little name tags myself and everything. I want to make the invitations. I want to make like all the

Kellydecorations or whatever. So, I know like that's going to take a while. And I'm just enjoying like where we are in life. He he's more like pressed about like

Brian Atlaswanting to pop the question, but um >> Okay. I'm not I'm not pressed about. >> Is he the one? >> Yeah. >> All right. Do you Are you planning to have kids at some point? Yes. You want kids? >> Probably. >> Yeah. We've already talked about that.

FelicityLike in the next like four years. >> Got it. All right. Felicity. >> Single for a few months. Longest relationship was two years. >> All right. All right. That's everybody's

Brian Atlasrelationship status. >> Yours? >> Oh. Uh, top secret. Top secret. I'm a virgin. Yeah, >> I'm a female >> and inel >> and a virgin.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, okay. So, >> just kidding about all of it. Uh, let's see here. Oh, there was a question I had related to this

Brian Atlasrelated to is anybody else a virgin at the table? Guess not. Okay, congrats. Congratulations.

Brian AtlasBased redpilled W in the chat. Um, all right. And will you only date a guy who's LDS or could it be a Christian?

Sydney (LDS)>> So on that, so essentially, you know, dating your political beliefs, like you want to date someone who's similar to your beliefs who can actually like get along. It's the same idea. So personally, I'd prefer dating someone who's Mormon just because then we're

Brian Atlasactually compatible >> with the same standards. >> Okay. How many children do you want? >> Um, four to six. >> Mhm.

Brian AtlasNot bad, right? Not bad. All right. Uh, Mormons, you can hit her up, I guess. Uh, sorry, LDS, they don't like the Mormon term. It's a slur. >> What? >> Oh, what's the Discord comment? It says,

Brian Atlas"Wait, based by >> I know. What are they saying?" >> Don't worry about it. They're just talking. >> They're saying very polite. >> Yeah, I I fear you don't want to know what they're saying. And they're also they're complimenting they're

Chloe (UK Goth)complimenting all of you and saying how nicely all of you are dressed. >> Oh yeah, I'm sure. >> And how wonderful all of you are. >> A that's so sweet. Thank you so much. I

Brian Atlasreally appreciate it. >> It is uh you know a a thing that they do. Okay, we're gonna get into some of

Brian Atlasthe pre-show notes starting with Khloe here. Chloe, you said that you used to sneak out of the psych ward to go out on dates with your boyfriend and you got

Chloe (UK Goth)>> caught and kicked out of the psych ward. >> Yeah, I did. Dot dot dot. >> What? Uh, how many times have you been a psych ward? >> How many times? Well, I've been in three

Chloe (UK Goth)times, but I was in it for 5 years. >> Jeez. >> Three times. Five years. Cuz in the UK we do really long admissions like

Brian Atlas>> I think like a year and a half, two years. >> Like really long admissions cuz our healthcare is >> Why were you in Was it different each time or for the same reason? >> No, all always for the same reason.

Brian Atlas>> Which is what? >> Cuz I just kept trying to kill myself. >> Uh just for the the rest of the show, if you can use like uh Oh, sorry. >> It's okay. It's okay. We didn't go over it. Uh, >> use uh on alive.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Okay. >> On live or like selfdelete? It's okay. >> Selfdelete. Delete. Delete. >> How many times have you tried to selfdelete? >> Um,

Chloe (UK Goth)maybe like four or five times, but mostly it was the I don't What would you call the the other one?

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Just self harming. >> Yeah. How would mute? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We We see. >> Oh, yeah. Obby. >> Obvious. >> Contrary to popular belief, I did not fall through a window. I did this to myself. >> Got it. Okay. And

Chloe (UK Goth)>> I have a reason why. >> Do I have a reason why? >> Sure. >> Oh, no. That wasn't even your question. That was her question. >> You can answer that. >> Why not? No, I'm joking. >> Childhood stuff.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, you said that >> why not? Would would you uh would they give you medications? >> Yeah, that was one of the best bits. Felt like I was floating. >> What kind what kind of medications were

Chloe (UK Goth)they giving you? >> Tamasopam, dasopam, uh every different type of antiscychotic, anti-depressant, mood stabilizers, >> everything. >> Are you taking anything currently? >> Yeah.

Chloe (UK Goth)>> What do you take? >> Why do I not act like I am? >> What do you take? I take well they're called different things because in the UK it's different but I take

Chloe (UK Goth)daspam promethazine melatonin sodium valprate and certillene. >> Okay. And are any of those antiscychotics?

Chloe (UK Goth)>> So rude. >> Why is that rude? You said you were on them. >> I'm >> I just don't know >> what some of those are. No mood stabilizer. >> Okay. >> Anti-depressant,

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