2 RAGE QUITS?! Andrew Wilson! MANSPLAINING?! Social Justice Girl HEATED DEBATE! | Dating Talk #173
Date: 2024-06-26
Duration: 7h 43m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_01TTS(audience)
SPEAKER_02Maddie(audience)
SPEAKER_03Nick(audience)
SPEAKER_04Mia Huffman(guest)
SPEAKER_05Izzy / Avery(guest)
SPEAKER_06Sheena Ray(guest)
SPEAKER_07Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_08Anna Bochenko(guest)
SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_11Michaela(guest)
SPEAKER_13Lizette(guest)
SPEAKER_14Shai(guest)
Key Moments
00:04:06
QuoteIzzy (Coco) recognized as original Whatever Podcast episode 1 guest (two-year anniversary).
“she's an OG Coco here was on our first ever uh whatever episode”
00:21:03
IntroAndrew Wilson introduces himself as host of The Crucible.
“my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible it's the fastest growing debate channel on the internet”
00:46:09
QuoteShai reveals she has a roster of 30 men and rotates 4-5 per week.
“my roster is about 30 men... I rotate between four to 5 a week”
02:03:00
ControversyBrian threatens to kick Shai off show after she admits she wasn't listening to the AI girlfriends question.
“if we have to repat one more question to you and you're not listening I'm just going to kick you off the show”
02:22:27
ControversyShai and Imogen (both AU OnlyFans) walk off set at ~2:22-2:27.
“they just walked off the set without any justification or for any reason whatsoever”
02:25:36
Key MomentBrian publicly reprimands Andrew Wilson for repeatedly raising sexual abuse topic after being told not to before show.
“I'm getting upset because I've told you multiple times avoid it”
03:38:36
Key MomentLizette walks back mansplaining accusation on camera after Brian's questioning exposes she cannot cite a specific incident.
“honestly no I can't... I want to take that back... it wasn't necessarily the mansplaining”
04:44:06
ControversyMichaela states promiscuous women/OnlyFans creators will struggle to find true love — directed at Mia.
“99% of these girls will never find happiness in life... promiscuous women will never find true love”
04:51:00
QuoteMia reveals she filmed boy-girl OnlyFans content with prior 3-year partner who she expected to marry, and started OnlyFans to support her separated parents.
“I filmed boy girl for a short period of time with my partner of a long term we expected marriage”
05:30:00
QuoteBrian explains why women overestimate their looks: sexual access to attractive men skews self-perception vs. actual relationship market value.
“the difference is is like women will get some degree of attention from men who are more attractive than you... you get rejected on the back end”
05:53:26
Key MomentAndrew logically demonstrates a guest cannot simultaneously self-rate 9, rate neighbor 9, and claim she would not lie about looks out of kindness.
“there's no possible way that you can rate yourself the prettiest girl at the table and then rate the girl next to you as pretty as you are”
Topics Discussed
00:00:00
Guest Introductions
Guests introduce name, age, location, occupation. Brian gives show announcements.
00:21:03
Relationship Status Round
Guests share current relationship status, longest relationship, recent dating activity.
00:34:36
Dating Apps / Serial Dating
Discussion on dating app culture, free meal dynamics, and transactional dating.
00:47:06
AI Girlfriends / Sex Robots
Discussion on AI girlfriends and sex robots — whether women feel threatened, societal implications.
01:23:00
Marriage Debate
Extended debate: should men get married? Andrew, Brian, and guests argue pros/cons of marriage vs. long-term relationships.
02:22:27
First Rage Quit (AU Girls)
Shai and Imogen walk off show after sexual abuse topic raised by Sheena against Brian's instructions.
02:27:00
Cheating / Forgiveness Debate
Debate on whether infidelity can be forgiven in marriage; different standards for male vs female cheating.
02:41:40
Virginity / Body Count Stories
Multiple guests share experiences with virginity, first relationships, and body count.
03:06:15
Mansplaining / Social Justice Debate
Lizette discusses co-founding Women in Business UCSB. Debate on mansplaining accusation (walked back). Feminism waves.
03:46:40
Equity vs. Equality / Selective Service
Andrew and Lizette debate whether men should get double votes due to draft obligation. Equity vs. equality.
04:16:00
Age Gap Relationships
Guests discuss preferences for older/younger partners. Michaela and Sheena discuss their own age-gap experiences.
04:20:26
What Guests Bring to Relationships
Going around the table: what each woman brings to a relationship.
04:45:00
OnlyFans / Promiscuity Debate
Michaela argues promiscuous women/OF creators rarely find true love. Mia responds with her own OnlyFans story.
05:30:00
Physical Appearance / Ratings
Ratings round: guests rate themselves and each other. Andrew analyzes honesty/deception in female self-ratings.
05:30:00
Women's Self-Overestimation
Brian explains why women overestimate their physical attractiveness due to asymmetric sexual access to attractive men.
06:13:40
Type / Partner Preferences
Each guest and Brian shares physical and personality preferences in a partner.
07:17:21
Penis Size Debate
Guests guess average penis size; show measures against average.
Transcript
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Brian Atlasthose of you who are watching on Twitch we're going to do a raid here in just a moment so hold on guys all right GG well played to the panel oh actually call to action
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Brian Atlasfirst Mia I'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't use this as a mass a moment as an opportunity to give you a
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Brian Atlascall to action would you consider stopping sex work entirely ever tonight not tonight tonight Mia unfortunately
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Brian Atlasnot with the support of the whatever podcast yeah we will help you you should do you you're amazing I would do you
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Sheena Rayyour soul I want to tell is still being redeemed but you could make millions you could make millions by Leading other girls that were doing only fans and become an advocate and a speaker I'm
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