2 RAGE QUITS?! Andrew Wilson! MANSPLAINING?! Social Justice Girl HEATED DEBATE! | Dating Talk #173
Date: 2024-06-26
Duration: 7h 43m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_01TTS(audience)
SPEAKER_02Maddie(audience)
SPEAKER_03Nick(audience)
SPEAKER_04Mia Huffman(guest)
SPEAKER_05Izzy / Avery(guest)
SPEAKER_06Sheena Ray(guest)
SPEAKER_07Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_08Anna Bochenko(guest)
SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_11Michaela(guest)
SPEAKER_13Lizette(guest)
SPEAKER_14Shai(guest)
Key Moments
00:04:06
QuoteIzzy (Coco) recognized as original Whatever Podcast episode 1 guest (two-year anniversary).
“she's an OG Coco here was on our first ever uh whatever episode”
00:21:03
IntroAndrew Wilson introduces himself as host of The Crucible.
“my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible it's the fastest growing debate channel on the internet”
00:46:09
QuoteShai reveals she has a roster of 30 men and rotates 4-5 per week.
“my roster is about 30 men... I rotate between four to 5 a week”
02:03:00
ControversyBrian threatens to kick Shai off show after she admits she wasn't listening to the AI girlfriends question.
“if we have to repat one more question to you and you're not listening I'm just going to kick you off the show”
02:22:27
ControversyShai and Imogen (both AU OnlyFans) walk off set at ~2:22-2:27.
“they just walked off the set without any justification or for any reason whatsoever”
02:25:36
Key MomentBrian publicly reprimands Andrew Wilson for repeatedly raising sexual abuse topic after being told not to before show.
“I'm getting upset because I've told you multiple times avoid it”
03:38:36
Key MomentLizette walks back mansplaining accusation on camera after Brian's questioning exposes she cannot cite a specific incident.
“honestly no I can't... I want to take that back... it wasn't necessarily the mansplaining”
04:44:06
ControversyMichaela states promiscuous women/OnlyFans creators will struggle to find true love — directed at Mia.
“99% of these girls will never find happiness in life... promiscuous women will never find true love”
04:51:00
QuoteMia reveals she filmed boy-girl OnlyFans content with prior 3-year partner who she expected to marry, and started OnlyFans to support her separated parents.
“I filmed boy girl for a short period of time with my partner of a long term we expected marriage”
05:30:00
QuoteBrian explains why women overestimate their looks: sexual access to attractive men skews self-perception vs. actual relationship market value.
“the difference is is like women will get some degree of attention from men who are more attractive than you... you get rejected on the back end”
05:53:26
Key MomentAndrew logically demonstrates a guest cannot simultaneously self-rate 9, rate neighbor 9, and claim she would not lie about looks out of kindness.
“there's no possible way that you can rate yourself the prettiest girl at the table and then rate the girl next to you as pretty as you are”
Topics Discussed
00:00:00
Guest Introductions
Guests introduce name, age, location, occupation. Brian gives show announcements.
00:21:03
Relationship Status Round
Guests share current relationship status, longest relationship, recent dating activity.
00:34:36
Dating Apps / Serial Dating
Discussion on dating app culture, free meal dynamics, and transactional dating.
00:47:06
AI Girlfriends / Sex Robots
Discussion on AI girlfriends and sex robots — whether women feel threatened, societal implications.
01:23:00
Marriage Debate
Extended debate: should men get married? Andrew, Brian, and guests argue pros/cons of marriage vs. long-term relationships.
02:22:27
First Rage Quit (AU Girls)
Shai and Imogen walk off show after sexual abuse topic raised by Sheena against Brian's instructions.
02:27:00
Cheating / Forgiveness Debate
Debate on whether infidelity can be forgiven in marriage; different standards for male vs female cheating.
02:41:40
Virginity / Body Count Stories
Multiple guests share experiences with virginity, first relationships, and body count.
03:06:15
Mansplaining / Social Justice Debate
Lizette discusses co-founding Women in Business UCSB. Debate on mansplaining accusation (walked back). Feminism waves.
03:46:40
Equity vs. Equality / Selective Service
Andrew and Lizette debate whether men should get double votes due to draft obligation. Equity vs. equality.
04:16:00
Age Gap Relationships
Guests discuss preferences for older/younger partners. Michaela and Sheena discuss their own age-gap experiences.
04:20:26
What Guests Bring to Relationships
Going around the table: what each woman brings to a relationship.
04:45:00
OnlyFans / Promiscuity Debate
Michaela argues promiscuous women/OF creators rarely find true love. Mia responds with her own OnlyFans story.
05:30:00
Physical Appearance / Ratings
Ratings round: guests rate themselves and each other. Andrew analyzes honesty/deception in female self-ratings.
05:30:00
Women's Self-Overestimation
Brian explains why women overestimate their physical attractiveness due to asymmetric sexual access to attractive men.
06:13:40
Type / Partner Preferences
Each guest and Brian shares physical and personality preferences in a partner.
07:17:21
Penis Size Debate
Guests guess average penis size; show measures against average.
Transcript
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05:36:59
TTSis not deep up as a side effect it's actually the goal and secularism no marriage of our steps on the way to get there yeah oh no I don't disagree with you I in fact half the reason I argue
05:37:12
Andrew Wilsonagainst some of these arguments is because they're bad arguments and I want in the ethos good arguments that stop depopulation right so that's why I trashed the bad ones but back to this so I'm not diverted and I never get
05:37:24
Michaeladiverted thank you Mountain tiger how is it that you're doing a kindness again do you want me to break it down again I will okay so I said first I said relative to age 7.5 and then you said I cannot do that and so then I said I'm
05:37:36
Andrew Wilsonjust going to stick with my answer anyway so then therefore that's kindness that's what I'm saying does that because because otherwise you would have changed your answer right uh perhaps but I'm not
05:37:47
Andrew Wilsondoing that yeah so then the kindness is that you li it's not exactly that but if you want well I'm sorry if you were going to change your answer to something that was more true and decided not to and that was kind then you're saying the
05:37:58
Andrew Wilsonkindness is that you're lying no no no I said I wasn't going to no no I said I wasn't going to I know that's that's worse right say I'm not going to change my answer ordinarily would change my
05:38:11
Brian Atlasanswer and that's the kindness and that means the kindness is that you're not telling the truth perhaps people wait you don't like hold on hold on hold on let me take over for a sec you don't like what I don't like comparing people
05:38:22
Brian Atlasin the slightest you don't like comparing people yeah you uh so you don't make any discernments in terms of the people you
05:38:31
Brian Atlasdate how so would you date a guy who's shorter than you um I have is it your preference no so if we had a guy who was 53 and a
05:38:43
Izzy / Averyguy who was 63 you wouldn't make any comparisons between the two not based off their height why not you wouldn't prefer to date the guy who's
05:38:53
Izzy / Avery6'3 sadly no I I guess not there's no I wouldn't prefer it I'm 55 that's like really up there so that's one inch taller than the average I've dated a guy
05:39:05
Brian Atlaswho's 6'3 before that was my last relationship I don't oh okay wait so the last guy you happen to be in a relationship with happened to be taller in like the one percentile of male
05:39:16
Brian Atlasheight yeah but you don't care about height interesting how that works um about I comparing okay all right well what about your previous
05:39:25
Izzy / Averyboyfriend um I dated one guy who was like 5'3 I dated um when you say dated what do you mean um okay another one I guess he was like five five
05:39:39
Izzy / Avery56 okay that was like the one outlier of the guy who I was like don't get me wrong like I'm attracted to talk so you don't care about like looks at all um I mean I can't say no to that that
05:39:52
Brian Atlaswould be so you would be comparing like one guy's looks to another if you were debating on who you ought to or not ought to date repeat it one more time
05:40:02
Brian Atlasplease you you wouldn't okay you have two guys M that are hitting on you whatever one is like super attractive one is not MH you wouldn't make a com it
05:40:13
Brian Atlaswouldn't factor into your comparison of which one to date just based on looks yeah no wait what like would I compare them just based on their looks or would
05:40:25
Izzy / AveryI compare them at all have you ever seen like a group of guys walk past you and seen one guy in the group and be like oh he's hot he sticks out I mean I guess but I meant it
05:40:36
Izzy / Averymore of in like uh I don't this might sound like I don't know I don't like comparing women oh it's okay to compare men I mean
05:40:46
Izzy / Averysadly that's the sex that I am attracted to so it's like how can I lie and be like oh I don't compare them you know what I mean fair enough right but we're you're not we're not asking you to
05:40:59
Sheena Rayyou're asking me to rate every single girl here that's comparing us since I'm the injector can I say so I'm I'm working with women all day regarding Beauty and they enhance their
05:41:11
Sheena Raylips and the cheekbones and everything yeah makes them worse looking goad not all the time but I want to say something all the a lot of the woman no it's not black and white I'm sorry I'm sorry yeah
05:41:21
Sheena Raybut a lot of the women they intend to um always lie to one another regarding their look like I would see a woman that go somewhere else to inject and they give him like a really ducky lips and
05:41:33
Sheena Raylike oh my God you're so gorgeous your lips are amazing and it looks ridiculous but because she's her friend she would be embarrassed to tell her the truth you know what I mean and you shouldn't be embarrassed well actually this is a great point this is a great point she's
05:41:46
Andrew Wilsonbringing up and I can demonstrate this now in real time now that we have all your answers so we're just going to go around the table for one last question because I know Brian wants to move it on right to whatever he wants to move it on
05:41:56
Andrew Wilsonto but I got to ask this one last question if you thought that it was a kindness to lie to the woman next to you about how pretty you actually thought she was was would you no what's the
05:42:10
Andrew Wilsonbenefit of telling going around hang on going around the table if you thought it was a kindness to lie to the woman next to you about her looks even if you
05:42:18
Sheena Raydidn't think she actually looked that good would you do it no no I never lie actually when I work with women I tell them you look hang on can we get the answers though right into the mic
05:42:32
Sheena Raystarting with you we'll go around I said no I said no as well no NOP I would never lie to a woman they need
05:42:40
Anna Bochenkoto hear the truth no once in a while yes once in a while for me the definition of beauty is
05:42:50
Sheena Raynot the outer so um sorry in front of men it's first of all the look after is your beauty they don't see your inside they pick Woman based on your look and your elegance and how you carry yourself
05:43:01
Sheena Rayeverything is visual that's why women is successful to do injections and all that because because women sells visually first of all so it's a lie to say no because when a man see you he doesn't
05:43:14
Sheena Raysee your personality he see how you look first I think it's hard to just that looks terrible right I'm sorry I know it's your job or whatever no no but I want to Brian I want to I want to I want to acknowledge you with something
05:43:25
Sheena Rayand I'll show you after pictures I have a lot of men that I injected to and now the most popular thing is to do things natural I can show you girls that you would never guess that they injected in America in fortunate
05:43:37
Sheena Rayeverybody do the same courses and they give them like crazy cheekbones ducky lips crazy Botox eyes they go like pointed really really there so this is the norm here if you go to other places
05:43:49
Andrew Wilsonthey don't inject like that but isn't those people and I'm sure you as a person who is a licensed injector wouldn't be saying that because it's a great promotion for your business that nobody lik injected as long as you're
05:44:01
Sheena Raythe in one doing the injecting I had listen I injected myself and I hate what I some of the stuff I injected myself we could totally tell by the way listen it's okay I'm not offended by that I hated what I injected to myself what
05:44:14
Brian Atlasprocedures do what procedures do you have I didn't do um uh let's do not just injections but all plastic surgery procedures I didn't do plastic surgery I did injections you don't have fake boobs
05:44:25
Sheena Rayyeah only my boobs but I didn't do any plastic surgery in my face just injections I did my nose nothing with the nose he did something with the nose I injected my own nose I can show you I injected my own nose cuz I specializ
05:44:37
Maddiewith noses you don't have a BBL just a little bit no BBL who you got a BBL no you what you don't have your Bo different my boobs yes but I don't okay I thought you his butt yeah I know I
05:44:49
Michaelaasked her the boobs but I had huge boobs before I had my son after I had my son they dropped to my knees so I had to reduce them and put implants there's also people always ignore um the fact that you can get fillers for your backside too people always forget that
05:45:01
Sheena Rayit's not just but in America it's not allowed to do filler Ste but okay have you done any cosmetic procedure to my to the booty no fat transfer you
05:45:11
Sheena Raycan no I can't even show you in the bathroom you could see it andou but thank you it's a compliment because I really wanted to do it and I didn't do it cuz I didn't want to look
05:45:21
Sheena Rayridiculous right look good um thanks what don't you say actually I have a lot of cellulite and it's fluffy it's not even that nice without I would
05:45:31
Andrew WilsonI would like to just point out uh also that there's no possible way that you can rate yourself the prettiest girl at the table and then rate the girl next to you as pretty as you are and then have
05:45:42
Andrew Wilsonthe position that you would not lie to another girl out of kindness I just want to let you know that that's just an objective truth not you not you I'm talking to the G in Black right that's
05:45:53
Michaelalike that's an imp it's a logical impossibility I'm just I'm just pointing that out yeah I think it's it's just regarding the honesty I think what are the benefits of being honest about that
05:46:05
MichaelaI I weigh the pros and cons of the truth that decide to uh hit people with and I'm sure there's there's nobody in this room or on this panel including yourself with all their respect that is 100%
05:46:17
Michaelaalways honest with people no matter what even if even if it will give them a reality check about their looks I just don't think it's always necessary but I I respect your perspective on it I get
05:46:29
Andrew Wilsonthat and it is better to be honest but at the same time like what are the pros and cons you know not that beneficial I guess so the thing is is like okay fair enough
05:46:40
Andrew Wilsonbut let me just ask you this directly MH right just between me and you right and we'll get the most on will you be honest with this answer well let's see they they they all lied right I mean they all lied when they were pointing at
05:46:53
Andrew Wilsonthe girl next to him and raiding him they were lying to every single it wasn't basically everyone except the blonde was lying the entire time weren't they who about the raiding I wasn't
05:47:02
Michaelalying she wasn't lying too I really do think she's an eight no no maybe Madison wasn't but like every other girl lying weren't they can you can you say your actual question part of that again what
05:47:15
Andrew Wilsonis your question wasn't pretty much every girl on that panel as they were raing the person next to them minus the blonde in the back and Madison
05:47:25
Michaelalying not necessarily not necessarily what I mean what do you think so you are asking my objective my opinion on everybody's looks ultimately is what you're saying like do I think
05:47:36
Michaelaeverybody's is less attract I'm just asking you if you think that they were not telling the truth when they were ra I don't think every single person wasn't I think perhaps some people fluff the numbers like you know you're just going
05:47:47
Michaelato be yeah which which ones I'm not I'm not going to answer that Andrew Andrew Andrew darling why don't you answer that why don't you answer that for us here I'm going okay
05:47:58
Michaelaokay I will I'll answer it but I want you to promise that after I do you will is that fair and let's do this quick sure let's go wait will you will you answer it if I do sure but everyone needs to repeat their ratings cuz I don't remember I'm
05:48:11
Andrew Wilsonsorry okay I just I I just if you remember then you go ahead and do it sure okay we'll start we'll start from the right going left okay so first girl lied about the girl to her left girl to her left lied about the girl to her left
05:48:24
Andrew Wilsongirl to her left lied about the girl to her left girl to her left lied about the girl to her left I didn't Li blonde blonde did not lie about Madison Madison did not lie about you you lied about the
05:48:35
Andrew Wilsonred head next to you that's what I think that's my official statement now you go ahead I'm not red hood she's a blonde anyway I don't remember she's as blond I don't remember
05:48:48
Andrew Wilsoneveryone's ratings I said that before you started so I can't tell you okay well the the ratings were a girl in Black said that she's a nine said the girl next to her is a nine can we just start with that yeah I think that's
05:48:58
Andrew Wilsonincorrect okay do you think that she was um not being honest well therefore yes no okay sorry I just want to say that men did this all the time too though no they don't nope we don't in fact if we
05:49:10
Lizettesee a guy who's better looking than us we make sure to call him ugly just to keep his ass humble I mean I've been in situations where they're like oh yeah I have a friend he's really cute I'll bring him
05:49:21
Lizettefor you and then that's different the one IIT wait but that's actually you're saying they'll bring a friend who's cute no they'll they'll say he's like really cute and then he'll show up and he's not
05:49:31
Brian Atlascute at all but so do you think it could potentially be when you made determination that this man is not cute that he's actually your looks equivalent
05:49:43
Brian Atlasbut because you have an overinflated sense of your own physical attractiveness he's actually your equivalent but you think you're more attractive than you actually are I don't
05:49:55
Brian AtlasI don't think this person was equivalent he's kind of I I want to see a F this guy he was on the bigger side for sure oh he was he was big okay
05:50:07
Brian Atlaswell I mean uh uh sorry I got distracted by 20 different things going on um okay
05:50:17
Brian Atlasso you think that men will overestimate their physical appearance to the same uh at the same frequency as women no definitely not hold on let let her fin
05:50:29
Brian AtlasI'm not asking you the question I'm asking it to her let her answer I just said you got to speak into the mic too I just said I think M do it too they do it sure they do it too but women
05:50:41
Brian Atlasdo it way more and I'll tell you why here's the difference I'll Grant to you that there are some men who are delusional I'll Grant to you that the difference is is
05:50:52
Brian Atlasthat men get rejected on the front end so if I if I step if me if I step to a Victoria Secret model I'm getting an instant
05:51:03
Brian Atlasrejection instant rejection I I can't get anything from a girl who's like in terms of her attractiveness is more than me typically she might be there could be
05:51:14
Brian Atlasa specific girl who is maybe she's attracted to it could be something else my toxic personality she could be attracted to status money whatever looks wise if I'm just a normal dude and I
05:51:27
Brian Atlasstep to a girl who's more attractive than me it ain't happening I'm not getting a date I'm not getting a conversation I'm not getting I'm certainly not getting casual sex as a
05:51:37
Brian Atlaswoman if you're a six and you step to a nine and you make yourself sexually available to him he'll have sex with
05:51:46
Brian Atlasyou it never works the opposite way around like oh I'm going to make myself sexually available to a girl who's three points more attractive than me she'll
05:51:56
Brian Atlasme once or twice but then that's it in order for a in order for a woman to sleep with a man he needs to be at least physically attractive enough for her to consider being in a relation
05:52:06
Brian Atlasrelationship with him for men to sleep with women men will sleep with women that they would they would immediately disqualify from a relationship just on
05:52:15
Brian Atlasthe basis of her appearance but they'll welcome the immediate and easy access to sex and so for this reason women will be able to sleep with men who are have
05:52:28
Brian Atlashigher status who are more physically attractive who make a lot of money a 19-year-old college girl can go an NFL player can go an NBA player can
05:52:37
Brian AtlasDrake can fake fake a famous musician actor what have you preach literally like you'll hear these stories these
05:52:49
Brian Atlas19-year-old college girls famous people in their DMS yeah there's not 19-year-old like normal-ish to to decently attractive college guys who are getting hit up by Taylor Swift
05:53:01
Brian Atlasand Rihanna two taken people well I mean if whenever they were single right so there's just this differential here so what ends up happening is because you
05:53:13
Brian Atlashave sexual access to men that would never be in a relationship with you but they'll you you'll think well if I can a guy who's a nine I must be a nine yeah he's
05:53:23
Brian Atlasright so you think okay well but that's not that's not your league so you'll think okay well I can frequently sleep with men who are eights and nines that's not your league though your league is
05:53:35
Brian Atlasnot the men who you can the your league is the men who you can get long-term commitment from Andor marriage and so but what ends up happening is if you start getting sexual
05:53:47
Brian Atlasattention from these men and some of these men granted will act as if they're interested in in a long-term relationship with you uh but they're not
05:53:58
Brian Atlasin order to even further aside from the differential in physical attractiveness in order to further their aims of having just easy access to sex with you they might even kind of uh lie and say that
05:54:11
Brian Atlasyeah I'm open to a long-term relationship blah blah blah 100% some might be honest though some might be honest and just keep things casual but you might still even entertain that really hot attractive guy uh just because he's hot and attractive and you
05:54:22
Brian Atlaswant to the hot dude um and also I mean hookup culture is also a culprit here but so I guess what I'm getting at is the
05:54:32
Brian Atlasdifference is is like so you women will get some some degree of attention from men who are more attractive than you you'll get sexual attention you typically won't get long-term romantic
05:54:45
Brian Atlasattention but you at least get sexual attention whereas like I said if I step to a girl who's a nine instant rejection whereas women you get rejected on the
05:54:54
Brian Atlasback end when I say rejected on the back end I mean uh two weeks you date a guy for two weeks and then it's done mhm but it see I don't know if that's the case with you necessarily cuz you kind of are
05:55:06
Brian Atlasover for them too but like you you'll hook up the guy once then he'll never talk to you again whereas for men it's like we will'll continue as soon as I as
05:55:16
Brian Atlassoon as I step to a girl want sex ew not not that I would approach that way but like you can't just slaying dick that like girls you can slay but guys can't just go up and to like a chicks
05:55:28
Brian Atlasthat's out of our league and try to slay dick right the girl will be like instantly I can't even talk to her for 5 minutes uh you're beneath me but
05:55:40
Brian Atlasas a chick it's like H she's kind of mid but the pussy's probably okay all right you know we'll for a couple of weeks whatever I'm just putting you on the game yeah I'm giving you some game here feel like I'm here for a
05:55:50
Sheena Rayreason I want to I want to add something yeah regarding to what Andrew said before okay when he mentioned about my face I'm actually writing a book that coming in about a month or two it's in
05:56:02
Sheena Rayediting and I was writing a whole chapter about it if I knew what I know today about myself and about injections and all this and not influence when I was actually learning the injections and
05:56:13
Sheena Rayeverything I would never inject myself actually I stopped doing it and I said that when we start the podcast you can see my forehead no more Botox and I'm wishing to my face I know don't dismiss what I'm saying it's disrespectful well
05:56:26
Brian AtlasI mean I was in the middle of having an on topic conversation and then it was like me me me me me no it's not me me me me okay you you dismiss what I said almost through the whole okay so anyways
05:56:38
Andrew Wilsonback to how was it not me me me me me it was my book if you look at my book and everything that I've done no but I didn't mean it from a me perspective I'm saying it's not what I meant I meant that any girl here could be doing what I
05:56:51
Andrew Wilsondid when I was a little bit younger there's more of that me me me it's not what I mean it's like you guys well I mean you can you can roll your eyes but he's right you did cut them off in the mid conversation it's not my intention I
05:57:02
Sheena Rayjust wanted to give an example I'm not happy with that that's my point me me me me anyways anyways um okay you can laugh all you want but the girls here got what I'm saying okay so back to the thing this
05:57:15
Brian Atlasthing really quick one of the other differentials here so uh can I ask the ladies a question if you know that you can sleep with a guy do you also know with certainty that you can get him into
05:57:26
Brian Atlasa relationship God no no you don't have certainty like you you're you're like I could definitely like sleep with this guy but is it always equally apparent that you can
05:57:38
Sheena Raylike lock him down for a relationship no no and that's not even a thought going through my head no you guys instead of shaking your heads you have to say no I said because we have audio only with sleeping with a
05:57:51
Sheena Rayguy actually it's not going to be a relationship if you wait maybe you have the chance to a relationship it's only worked once in my case
05:58:00
Anna Bochenkoyes no okay but not in like I'm individual case in general yes yeah the question is if you sleep with the guy you could get him into the relationship yeah if you sleep with him
05:58:12
Anna Bochenkoearly on oh is it a guarantee that you can like pretty close when I when I was younger I used to think that way not anymore okay so here's the other
05:58:22
Brian Atlasdifferential as a guy if I can sleep with a girl there's a pretty good chance I can get that girl in a relationship but I don't think women can say the same
05:58:30
Brian Atlasthing yeah it's true like almost if as a guy if you can sleep with a girl there's a very high chance you can get her in a
05:58:40
Izzy / Averyrelationship it's true can't say the same really yeah about women I mean women get attached much faster much much faster than men but again you're coming
05:58:51
Brian Atlasfrom the sense that it's the guy trying to pursue the girl in this case right like he thinks if he can sleep with her he can get her into a relationship well like it would be both directions so if I'm pursuing a girl and
05:59:03
Brian Atlasshe sleeps with me I'm very confident like and let's I I do want to remove like one night stands from this like cuz I mean that's that's its own like one night stands you meet at the party right
05:59:13
Brian Atlasyou hook up like if if you meet on a you know it in on a dating app or whatever whatever it is I mean we could even include this too but if I'm pursuing her
05:59:23
Brian Atlasor she's pursuing me if I sleep with her regardless of the direction of Interest initial interest in E either scenario I can get her in a relationship in fact if
05:59:36
Brian Atlasshe's pursuing me the chance of me getting her in a relationship is orders of magnitude higher whereas if the guy is pursuing you I would I feel like I
05:59:48
Brian Atlaswould and is it it's actually probably a little similar like if the guy's pursuing The Woman versus you pursuing the man there's still probably a higher percentage chance that you can get the
05:59:59
Izzy / Averyguy who's pursuing you into a relationship but in any case it's it's uh goes both ways it's very high for both I feel like it's like more likely if a girl makes the first move I don't know if it's like the same kind of thing
06:00:12
Izzy / Averybut if a girl makes the first move I feel like it's more likely that that relationship will go maybe not go somewhere but like it'll work out in whatever way it's meant to's
06:00:21
Brian Atlasmore interested you mean I feel like I get that anyways so so going to last thing on the rating thing um will you be more physically attractive in 10 years starting with you what what does that
06:00:34
Brian Atlasmean you think you'll be better looking in 10 years like compare okay so are you better looking now or will you be better
06:00:43
Brian Atlaslooking in 10 years time no no I'm in my Prime yeah probably
06:00:51
Lizettenot no you got to you got to speak sorry um uh or no I think I'm peeking soon no
06:01:01
Sheena RayI think I'm not going to look better in 10 years no no yes at you're going to look better at 57
06:01:10
Anna Bochenkoversus 47 absolutely so it's for me you know it is not just the physical look but it is a the internal yeah we're talking about like physical I mean the confidence it's just about the
06:01:22
Anna Bochenkoconfidence how I actually feel about myself as a person you know so it is uh like Andrew said you know I'm talking about your looks yeah I'm talking about your looks physical you're going to feel
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Anna Bochenkobetter but maybe the world doesn't see you like that I would feel very confident about who I am whether it goes
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Sheena Rayfor looks or you know Beauty it's not what he asked so answer yes right okay uh let's see here we have more
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Brian Atlasnotes uh going to wait we did that lazette did you provide any pre-show notes I don't think
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Brian Atlasso right no okay hold on Avery okay Avery get Avery finally when you turned 21 you went on a
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Brian Atlasdate oh did you tell us about this the 30-year-old oh yeah did you tell us about I don't think so what's the story what okay or do you want me to read it
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Izzy / Averyno I'll let you tell it go ahead so when I turned 21 I had just gotten out of my long-term relationship my threee relationship so then I made a
06:02:32
Izzy / AveryTinder for the first time and the first date I went on with was with a guy who was like 32 maybe and he picked me up in his Tesla i' never been in a Tesla
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Izzy / Averybefore and he just kind of like drove around he wanted to like show me how the Tesla worked he's like oh yeah so this is and I'm like oh that's cool I guess
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Izzy / Averyand you know then we went to a bar or whatever got a drink and I was like you know I mean it's like the first like drink so I'm like I can like pay for my
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Izzy / Averyown drink so then we go to another bar and he orders us like these shrimps and he's like oh no I got it like it's okay and I'm like okay and so then uh I'm
06:03:14
Izzy / Averytrying to get him to take me back to my dorm but he just like won't like take no furnit so he drives around for like 30 more minutes finally I like I'm like I have a test tomorrow like I really need to go back takes me back to my dorm and
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Izzy / AveryI'm trying to get out of the car but then he tries to like grab me for a kiss and I'm like oh no like would you be okay with the hug awward and he got super pissed at me and so then I was like okay well I think I'm
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Izzy / Averygoing to go so then I got out of the car and I was walking and he rolled down the window and he was like I hoped you like the shrimp and he drove off so then and then he tried to like message me after and
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Brian Atlassay yeah it was a really great day but I didn't respond obviously so damn I have some thoughts on that before I do guys TTS is now 69 if you want to get any ttss in we've lowered the threshold a
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Brian Atlaslittle bit actually I'll leave that up um so okay he hope you like he was all butt hurt because you turned him down yeah yeah
06:04:17
Brian Atlasthat's weird I mean just you got to take you got to take the L gracefully you know yeah if she's not into it she's not feeling it just what do you it's not it's just kind
06:04:28
Brian Atlasof weird when girl when it's it's weird when guys get mad like you got look you're going to part of dating's rejection like you just got to take the L you know did you enjoy the shrimp though was it good shrimp no it wasn't
06:04:40
Izzy / Averyit wasn't even good shrimp that guy it wasn't even good that guy he had all the shrimp I had like a bite I didn't like it so old shrimp like I didn't like shrimp shrimp was bad for me
06:04:51
Izzy / Averysh shrimp and you said he fetishized your ethnicity yeah what's your what's your are you Latino so I am but I'm also um
06:05:00
Izzy / AveryNative American so when I told him about it he was just like oh really he's like wow that's like really cool I love that like that's really hot and I was just
06:05:12
Andrew Wilsonlike trying to was he trying to colon so so what he should have done has been like oh God that's cringe gross ew colon yeah got he was yeah he was a white guy so I was like well
06:05:28
Sheena Raymaybe that's funny that's hilarious he's trying to colonize you what I had to pull up my pants relax guys um you're trying to colonize
06:05:44
Brian Atlasher uh anyways um wait so but yeah I mean like what you said like didn't it doesn't sound that bad really like if he
06:05:56
Izzy / Averywas like oh that's cool yeah was there more I just thought it was like did you want to put on a headdress and like let's get to business I mean I know he like he kept going on about it bringing up throughout the night and I just thought it was a weird
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Izzy / Averything to focus on like somebody's like race or ethnicity that being like beinged in your culture you know what I mean no I mean he wasn't like interested in he was just like oh like that's really hot and I'm like that's a weird
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Brian Atlasthing to say it's hot yeah he said it's hot that you're Latino or Native American Native American Native American I don't know maybe uh I don't know so like what what what did he say
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Izzy / Averyspecifically that was strange just it was yeah I mean I think he probably said other things I just don't really remember it was a long time ago and it just it weird cuz he was he was white oh
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Izzy / Averyno that's not the reason I just think it's weird when someone like like is like oh I like hyper focuses on yeah exactly okay all right trust me I had
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Brian Atlasdwars oh yeah it's weird because I had the exact opposite thing I was dating this Native American girl and she was really into the fact that I was white she was like she wanted you to colonize
06:07:07
Andrew Wilsonher yeah dude yeah I I felt uncomfortable yeah but Brian isn't it super weird that she was fetishizing you I was being fetishized you were being
06:07:17
Andrew Wilsonfetishized I was being fetishized fetishizing you no actually it was kind of nice it was nice I like to be us men it didn't upset you wait kiss are you
06:07:28
Brian Atlassaying it didn't upset you that you you don't have retroactive cope about this no no at all I good it's nice you know like I don't know if you've SE
06:07:39
Brian AtlasAndrew have you seen American Pie fil oh yeah so at the very end after it's a almost 30-year old movie I'm going to just spoil it whatever all right Jim he
06:07:48
Brian Atlasjust hooked up with the The Band Geek and uh she he wakes up and she's gone and he was like I've been used I've been
06:08:01
Brian Atlasused that's how it feels like a guy like oh sweet she used me for sex sweet it's terrible it's awful fetishize me I don't
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TTSmind just kidding Paladin donated $100 women are disgusted by agreeableness her date would have agreed with anything she said about herself brickson knows that it's always the
06:08:23
Brian Atlasgirls that he disagrees with that stare the hardest no that's not true at all bro you think I have these like eight six seven hour arguments and the girls are like dying to what's
06:08:35
Brian Atlasyour like afterwards no they like get me away from this toxic this toxic masculinity bro what I said what's your roster huh what's your roster what do you mean what are you talking about
06:08:47
Sheena RayI'm a I'm a I'm a one girl kind of guy Okay Christian girl I only got eyes for one like if I you know one girl you know I saw that podcast that the girl was
06:08:58
Sheena Raypursuing you oh I couldn't stop watching it it was so hilarious the one that you said she talks about her Lea oh my God I couldn't I couldn't
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TTSbelieve that show donated $69 are there even any good women left who want to date or serious relationship I'm on lots of dating apps and I can't
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TTSget a date everyone just send me to Instagram and then try to get me on on Van all right nacho nice man yeah there's plenty dude there's lots of good girls out there you know
06:09:32
Brian Atlasyou got to get out of the you can't meet them at the club or the bar exactly or Tinder I mean there's there's good girls on Tinder too meet theml they're rare
06:09:44
Anna Bochenkosupermarkets do you think that uh because of so many applications out there daing is harder now compared to like 10 years ago or is it easier
06:09:54
Brian Atlasdefinely for man for the average man it's a lot harder you were dat in 10 years they easier to have sex but way easier for like the top te dudes to
06:10:06
Anna Bochenkojust run through chicks way easier for those guys but the ones who actually looking substance it is a lot harder it is exactly I think it makes it a lot harder I think it's
06:10:18
Brian Atlasharder um wait going back to what's it called what was where was I going with this something about I was going to bring back up Natural Body
06:10:29
Brian Atlassupremacist I'll get to that in a bit okay um wait so okay go okay back to Avery [Music] um no that was it that was good all
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Brian Atlasright good job a all right lazette what you got for us give us some give us some some something good something good what do you want to talk about wa what that you want to talk about being a
06:10:54
LizetteSwifty is that what you want to talk about you think I give teeth no I do not think so I don't think well cuz he said like isn't it a thing Swifty teeth and he's like you look like a Swifty I'm
06:11:07
Brian Atlaslike what the hell but then she did the hawk to thing she did well she said it and you said oh h Huh wow that was oh yeah the H that's when he kind of changed wait but let's actually I do
06:11:19
Sheena Raywant to Deep dive into that did we play the video last time it's in the drop ah we don't need to play it you guys know what it is what everyone here has seen it right the I don't know okay pull it
06:11:30
Brian Atlasup what are you talking about it's in the Dropbox folder isn't it Nick pretty sure you pulled it up last show
06:11:38
Brian Atlasdid you ever rate us as well no no I'm not going to because sorry I'm not a toxic misogynist like Andrew is just
06:11:51
Lizettekidding just kidding oh my gosh wait no he's not the misogynist I do have a really embarrassing story that I'm totally willing to share yeah let about someone I dated
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Lizettewhich I don't know why I thought it was a good idea let's go um when I was this is I was 18 Rec um yeah 18 they were 17 Again don't know why I thought that
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Brian Atlaswas a good idea so they were are you younger wait you were 18 and they were 17 uhhuh hold on wait hold on oh no oh no don't do
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Lizetteit it's not you can't even see it I thought it was a megaphone me too um
06:12:36
Lizettebut this person was a very at the time devote Orthodox
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LizetteChristian oh um so he was like a no no until marriage and I don't know again what the was going through my mind I don't even mention this to
06:12:54
Lizettepeople um but I was very much on the you know what this is an opportunity for me to like try or for me to experience of a relationship in which it's like
06:13:04
Lizettecompletely kind of emotional base like you know type no no physical type um but yeah after like a
06:13:16
Lizettemonth maybe week three I was like bro this sucks you needed you needed a DEA appointment well it was just kind of awkward too we'd be having like make out sessions and he'd kind of just like move
06:13:27
Lizetteme on like kind of to the side when he got a Bonus really but it's nice I don't know it's cute um okay uh but yeah and I felt really or I just felt super bad cuz he was he was really
06:13:39
Lizettereally nice he was super duper sweet he was super duper sweet um and then yeah eventually my sister got pregnant and by
06:13:50
TTShim no my sister he bang bang donated $69 I love Andrew but he is the whole reason I would never let my girlfriend
06:14:01
TTSon this show he would eat her alive and she would end up crying bro is too smart talk about abortion okay uh thank you thank you B
06:14:12
Lizettein the middle um yeah so so I kind of use that as a like I have to focus on my family for like the next couple of months like
06:14:23
LizetteI'm really sorry I'm just not going to be available like I am now is your sister married no it was a unexpected pregnancy are they still my Orthodox
06:14:34
Andrew Wilsonbrother out there did not falter is that what you're saying he did not falter he stayed the course and he did not go through with the he did do he did know which is why I don't even like really
06:14:44
Lizetteconsider it um oh yeah why I don't think you missed a good guy he stayed strong he stayed strong you could not steal his
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TTShe stayed strong Jes the Pagan donated $69 would Brian marry if he found a woman that could give two dimensional BJs and didn't mind his dlap your belly
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Nickunlap overa I don't get it wait didn't mind mind BJ I don't get the Dunlap part though your belly dun lapped
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Lizetteover confused um but this person did end up you know or like years later cuz he did give me some kind of when he
06:15:31
Andrew Wilsonfound out I wasn't a virgin wait um I'm confused this is the same person that I'm why are you confused going so this is the Orthodox
06:15:42
LizetteChristian you were with he was upset that you weren't a virgin yeah or not he was just like oh it's something that I need to consider while you were still dating him
06:15:52
Lizetteyeah again this guy's awesome like hold on hold on hold on wait wait wait so then years later he did come back and we caught up and he did
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Lizetteapologize for basically given me kind of a bit of a bit of for it or yeah for feeling some type of way towards it
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Lizetteand he eventually yeah did leave the church or Orthodox is very very strict yeah they're like more strict than Jehovah's Witnesses and I grew up as one
06:16:23
Andrew Wilsonso I would know okay um that's good but trick how huh how are the Orthodox more strict than Jehovah's
06:16:33
Anna BochenkoWitnesses they were just that's a different topic well there is orthodox and there is like non-denominational if you compare them
06:16:42
Andrew Wilsonit's uh you know I was uh I was born as Orthodox and I was uh yeah I know but all B you know if you're just a baby in an Eastern European country you're born
06:16:53
Anna BochenkoOrthodox that doesn't mean nothing and now I belong to non denominational uh that my husband introduced me to so it's just the way uh the connection is just
06:17:04
TTSuh more understandable it's easier it inspires you to rent donated $69 to offend a strong individual tell them a lie to offend a weak individual
06:17:16
Andrew Wilsontell them the truth I like that I I haven't heard that before that's a good one uh so so yeah back to the how how would they be stricter than Jehovah's
06:17:25
LizetteWitnesses or I just are not necessarily strictor I just felt like they were more judgmental I guess let's not linger let's not yeah but but anyway yeah he
06:17:37
Brian Atlasdid end up coming back apologizing for that but I just always so Nick why don't you do the hotah thing then we'll do the B video cuz he was asking about the marriage thing so I can find up YouTu verion do
06:17:50
Sheena Rayyou know how he's life turned up if he is a no in the military I think go ahead in the military okay H to what is this what's one move in bed that makes a man
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Sheena Raygo crazy every time oh you got to give him that Hu two and spit on that day you get me oh my god I've genuin that's the first time I've seen that yeah she's gone viral I guess she's going vir
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Brian Atlasimagine her parents yeah I don't know now that it took so long to get it I don't even remember what I was uh let me guess what school she went to Old Miss I don't
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Nickknow feel like that she was preschool teacher oh yeah is that a really yeah you wanted to B next she's a preschool teacher te she's a preschool oh I remember why I wanted to
06:18:38
Brian Atlaspull it up I don't know why people are going so crazy about it like the actual like that doesn't do
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Andrew Wilsonanything like why are guys oh my God she HW Tua does maybe does nothing maybe that's why it's going viral it does nothing because guys are like that do
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Izzy / Averycouldn't hear the what did she say she said HW to oh my God basically she spits on the D she said spit on that thing spit on it like for blow she given a
06:19:11
Mia Huffmanblowj job oh my God but she's like making it like an elaborate like you got to really spit on that thing I don't think so oh
06:19:21
Anna Bochenkomy I it wouldn't do it for me you know wouldn't do it for me if you like girls it would but you're not so so you saying a GU some more attracted to that and
06:19:32
Anna Bochenkosharing that video sley guys love or women for sure who is making it viral oh it's probably dudes it's dudes so that's where the world is going uh wom's Pits on the mic and guys this is this is this
06:19:44
Brian Atlasis the kind of woman I want though go ahead Nick line that up I'm intrigued boom what did she do Bow it started a little
06:19:56
Brian Atlaslate but it's okay all right look she's running doing my laundry Yep this is my girlfriend by the way are you serious look I get home from my
06:20:06
Brian Atlaspodcast after a long day of my dinner is ready she's got a beer ready for me she opens the beer attentive my needs are being met she stir my noodles you know
06:20:18
Brian Atlasit's great dinner's ready attentive one more time let's see the bow boom boom look at the bow full
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Anna Bochenkorespect bow that's Brian honestly get get out of here with the hwk T I want bow huh is this done through artificial intelligence that one that that particular that is a real woman I bet
06:20:41
Brian Atlasshe can't even squat the bar I'm not sure what she is she looks Korean to be honest so would you guys bow for for your man yes would you would you bow for for
06:20:52
Brian Atlasyour man what man if you had H the what did what did you have oh sorry oh my God I'm about to ruin it sorry Andrew how would you feel if you didn't have
06:21:01
Izzy / Averybreakfast this morning I didn't or lunch what do you [Music]
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Andrew Wilsonmean is the volume boosted um at least you said it right A lot of people say I just want to make sure you didn't I don't think I understand what you meant by that I well no I just want to make sure you didn't have breakfast
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Izzy / Averythis B what's the iast code word for something or like no no
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Izzy / AveryI'm just I'm just asking the question no I had like a really late lunch but I had breakfast dishy stuff for lunch I had
06:21:46
TTSlike Greek yogur oh my God who the hell cares you asked yeah I was I was just that's
06:21:56
TTSall aore war zone donated $69 to the people on the panel for someone with crippling IRL social anxiety and a low opinion of themselves
06:22:07
TTSI view myself as a four what advice would you give to try and start any sort of relationship are you a man or a woman first of all uh I mean War Z work on
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Brian Atlasyourself first could be a chick LEL up work on yourself I would say uh I mean one of the benefits of dating apps
06:22:28
Brian Atlasis that it sort of avoids you having to uh actually go up to somebody and face potential like upfront it's very easy like it to just get unmatched or
06:22:39
Brian Atlasrejected on a dating app is like nothing compared to an in-person rejection so I mean you're probably going to have to do dating apps I guess don't pursue let people pursue you I think it's well if that's a man if you're a man you're
06:22:52
Mia Huffmanhe said any sort of relationship follow that advice so I think for myself like with my social anxiety I started practicing kind of talking to like strangers that I had to talk to so if I was at a store I'd try to get at least
06:23:04
Brian Atlasone sentence and in addition to hello or thank you yeah actually let me revise crippling IRL social anxiety a war zone do not be beholden to this
06:23:15
Brian Atlasinvention in your mind you have created an identity for yourself as somebody who has crippling IRL social anxiety everything is within your realm
06:23:26
Brian Atlaseverything is within your grasp so don't allow yourself to be identified for the entirety of your life as I have crippling IRL social anxiety you must
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Brian Atlasovercome you can do Progressive uh what's the term Progressive self-work no no it's it's Progressive what what's the term for
06:23:47
Brian Atlaswhen you put yourself in a situation empathy no what's there's spe no there's a specific term for it Progressive Nick pull up the chat so I can see it somebody in the chat will
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Brian Atlashave it uh no one exposure I think exposure yeah just keep doing it and uh Progressive exposure I think there's a
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Nickdifferent word for iture there's a different word for it but um like this yeah the chat's got a couple ideas but just go to the gym just lift lift
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Brian Atlasweights smoke dude don't be beholden don't be beholden to this just sack Up all In Your heading just or just
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Anna Bochenkouse dating apps it or just get H themselves the right way first of all to get their right attention I mean to show the values of who they are what they
06:24:39
Anna Bochenkobring to the relationship oh go on why yeah no it's just yeah yeah I was GRE and then get attention and then
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Anna Bochenkotalking on the video get more comfortable then go on a date yeah there you go what do you do about no you
06:24:58
Izzy / Averywouldn't bow for your boyfriend even no husband he's like I want to see you bow maybe right now if he took me to the
06:25:08
Brian Atlasballet and we dance I'd bow to it's more like a curtsy but okay what about you you you you've been daing a guy for three years or whatever wait wait why would someone take you to the ballet and
06:25:19
Andrew Wilsonyou would dance with them yeah I didn't that was a question you know you don't go to the ballet to dance with people that's not how that
06:25:29
Izzy / Averyworks that's not how ballets work what you don't join the ball you don't they don't like bust out a ballet disco ball or anything you know I guess if he
06:25:39
Lizettewould bow back I would like bow back you just B because he doesn't respect me because of what reason yeah cuz they do it out of like out of respect so as long
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Lizetteas I got a bow back but if they're just like bow to me I mean yeah no it would not be I like it would not be a
06:25:57
Lizettebow back you just hit the bout yeah hell no no you wouldn't do it if he got again yeah no if if there's no
06:26:08
Lizettereciprocation if of that then no no reciproc okay I'll hold on let me write that down reciprocation reciprocation well because it's a it's a again out of like respect type thing so okay so okay
06:26:21
Sheena RayI'll get everybody's answers but I want to come back to reciprocation I think the most sexy thing in a relationship is to bow to a man and make him your king based I love it there you go I said it
06:26:32
Brian Atlastoo hold on mil thanks Nick sorry I B on stream yesterday I didn't wow nice we should we should have like a a
06:26:45
Nickdonation trigger like everybody has to bow or you I did it for $50 FU oh my God I said if someone sends in $50 I'll do it all right what about you would you bow I would be honored to she would be
06:26:57
Brian Atlashonored okay was it yeah if it was important for my man absolutely it's very important for me very important for me uh so you wouldn't do it you it needs to be reciprocated well uh like for my
06:27:10
Lizetteunderstanding for my understanding it's a um it's out of like respect type thing so if they're just like bowed to me then it's like do not respect me what if it's
06:27:20
Lizettemore playful like let me see bow B if it's like playful like bend that ass over what they let me give you a mobile
06:27:31
Izzy / Averyif they bent me over what the then that's a different type of bow yo She's A lowkey Freak over here she's a freak right going to mat my freak H she's hardcore not a Swifty hardcore not a
06:27:43
Brian AtlasSwifty she's like a sexy red hell uh okay so you said reciprocation though I'm just curious for you then should a guy pay for the first
06:27:57
Lizettedate oh balls not necessarily I feel like I um uh
06:28:05
LizetteI feel like if it went way no I will say this I feel like i' i' offer to split um
06:28:15
Lizetteon the first date for sure and I feel like I don't know why I feel like I'd kind of interpret it like if they did make me split 50/50 then it maybe didn't go too well but if they're like oh no no no I got to it wait I got I got a
06:28:29
Brian Atlasquestion for you have you ever had the one night stand uh no never no have you ever like hooked up with somebody the same night
06:28:37
Brian Atlasthat you met them same day never no oh a woman sorry you a woman a woman okay sorry
06:28:47
Brian Atlasuh one time okay all right it's just crazy to me and here's why I maybe I'm not speaking about anybody here specifically when I say this bow thing people like get really up in arms about
06:29:00
Brian Atlasit that I want a girl to Bow but you will have have girls who would absolutely refuse to do a bow who would like maybe not the first date but
06:29:09
Nicklike second third date you will let a guy come on your face oh my God but you don't want to do you don't want to do a
06:29:17
Brian Atlaslittle battle there's no you don't want to let a guy do all kinds of sexual
06:29:26
Brian Atlasacts for second third date she let you do it but yeah cool oh my God you won't you object to like the most mild milk
06:29:38
Mia Huffmantoast wait what do you mean it's horrible you're aren't you you're an only fans how only I'm just laughing at the fact that she's saying it's
06:29:48
Brian Atlasfacial facial I thought that was good times good times I'm just saying ladies I'm just saying I've never
06:30:00
Sheena Raysubmission to a man it's kind of degrading I don't know I gring when you let someone do it on your face that has nothing to do with my conversation I'm just saying I guess I
06:30:10
Sheena Raywould bow that's all I said I don't I don't really get that either though it's like the whole on the face whole idea is coming from I don't know it's degrading
06:30:23
Anna Bochenkoit's disrespectful making a joke out of a joke you know you know I just don't really miss anyways she likes Bo
06:30:34
Brian AtlasI prefer bowing for the woman to B it's different some cultures that's what the women do when the men come from work no there's nothing wrong with that should I just USA what's every I let's see I I need to get through a few more pre-show
06:30:46
Brian Atlasnotes I want to hear what's everybody's type give me one uh physical thing and one like personality type thing go ahead then I'll I'll give you mine physical thing a nice smile and personality
06:31:01
Izzy / Averything motivated mhm um physical I'd say I eyes sorry uh physical is eyes and then what was the other thing that I have to say
06:31:12
Lizettepersonality personality uh funny I would say curly hair and like kind I do love a man
06:31:22
Lizettebun um so maybe why is that so awful for you a man bun she likes a man bu long hair I love long curly hair um and and and funny got
06:31:35
Sheena Raythe jokes uh I like don't laugh at me but I like a man who is like a really old school chauvinist but not in a bed way like I like that the man would tell me
06:31:47
Sheena Raywhat to do where to go how to dress I love it like for me it's the most attractive me thing to be submissive to my man and I don't really care about the look as long as I'm attracted to him
06:31:58
Sheena Raythey like tall short white whatever I don't I don't care about they it needs to be like a real man like a real old school man yeah but what about the man
06:32:07
Sheena Raybun uh to me asking I'm not I'm not I'm not really I'm not really into it I like short hair I like rough man I like hair I like hair in the chest I like like real real men you that's like that's
06:32:20
Andrew Wilsonpretty soy jacked right that's the soy Jack mean is the man bun and the neck beard and the you know we just kind of point that direction I feel like you said curly hair and I just thought about the person that I dated that was really
06:32:33
Izzy / Averyattrative to that had curly long curly hair and a man so uh I would say like dark features like dark hair dark eyes and I like when a man knows how to control his
06:32:46
Michaelaemotions yeah exactly strong arm specifically forearms every time and a leader for sure a