She DISRESPECTED Him?! Based VlRGlN Mason & Brian Atlas vs. Women HEATED DEBATE! | Dating Talk 290

Date: 2026-04-13

Duration: 9h 01m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAngelica (RE)>

MMason Gregoire >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Angelica(guest)

SPEAKER_02Mason Gregoire(guest)

SPEAKER_04Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_06Molly(guest)

SPEAKER_07Jade(guest)

SPEAKER_09Dana(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduce themselves

Key MomentMason discusses surviving catastrophic motorcycle accident on 9/11/2024

Key MomentAngelica reveals giving ex-husband house and passive income in divorce

Key MomentAngelica confesses she 'fired the first shot' by telling husband he couldn't sit on couch until dishes were clean

Key MomentMason reveals he's still virgin at almost 30

QuoteBrian declares himself Mason's 'dick escort' and 'vagina virtuoso'

ControversyMolly's extreme trivia failures: doesn't know continents, thinks 5x5=20, never heard of Hitler

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Molly (19, OF/Mormon), Jade (28, holistic health), Dana (50, insurance), Angelica (41, real estate), Mason (29, EMT/virgin).

Mason Motorcycle Accident

Mason's miraculous survival from catastrophic motorcycle accident on 9/11/2024.

No-Shows Exposed

Brian exposes 7 guests who cancelled or no-showed with screenshots.

Angelica Divorce Story

20-year relationship, being breadwinner, collaborative divorce, giving ex house and assets.

Mason Virginity and Breakup

Mason's virginity at 29, breakup with Alexa, Brian vetting future women.

Molly OnlyFans While Mormon

Religious contradiction of doing OnlyFans while being LDS.

Molly Trivia Failures

Molly can't name continents, thinks Italy is city in France, says 5x5=20, doesn't know Hitler.

Transcript

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Angelica>> Yes. >> What if you have children? What if you have children and that there's a good man that wants to take care of her and her children? >> Tough. >> Tough luck. >> I kind of Is he asexual?

Angelica>> Okay. >> No, hold on. I I actually did have this conversation. I had this conversation with my ex-husband and I said, "If I died and something happened to me, I would love for you to have the

Angelicacompanionship of another woman and I know you would do a good vetting process >> and I know she would be wonderful to you and the children. >> I I >> Well, I'm f like for me, I would

Angelicaprobably if my wife of 10 years died, >> you know, I'll give it a couple weeks to do. But what I did say is in this scenario, if I'm in a coma, if I'm on a coma, do not ever pull the plug. I will

Brian Atlascome back. >> Okay. Well, look, ultimately though, I don't know. >> She has to be a virgin. >> If if a woman wants me to die for her, she has to be a virgin when we meet. And

Brian Atlasthen uh she can I have to know somehow. I don't know how I would ever guarantee this. She cannot [ __ ] another man ever. Ever. >> So crazy.

Angelica>> She's struggling. She's struggling financially. This man and his white horse. >> Oh, she's going to take dick. >> No, he's loving her. He's loving her. Another man wants to love her and take

Brian Atlascare of her. >> I'm sorry. The memory of me should supersede. >> I cannot. The memory of me should supersede her car her base base desire

Angelicafor >> I actually have a friend whose husband passed away and she has two daughters and she's wonderful and in when he was dying he said >> I would like you for you to move on but

Brian Atlasnever forget me always talk about me to our daughters that was his last >> I'm sorry I just I if she won't find someone who will I just have very you know I just want that woman who like I'm

Brian Atlasjust the final one, you know, even again, even if we only dated for like a month or something. >> She can't [ __ ] any more people. Like I don't care. I could like have after I break up with a girl, I could have been

Brian Atlaslike with three other women after I broke up with her, but she can't date anyone after me. >> You're delusional. That's a very dulu. >> Yeah, she's No, I feel like she's got to

Brian Atlasbe perma stuck to me. I'm kidding on that one. I'm kidding. That one's a bit ridiculous. But I will I'm not lying. I

Brian Atlasdon't think I should have to die for uh a woman who during her time on Earth after my death would allow another man to put his penis in her.

Jade>> Thankfully, the odds are in your favor. That's probably not going to happen. >> What's not going to happen? >> Uh that you're going to have to die for a woman that dramatically. >> I will say like, sure, it's unlikely. saying like, oh, like if you in that

Jadesituation where it's like you had to die for her, I do feel like you know what, like in a woman's place, it's the least you could do to just like he gave you life basically. Like he let you're the reason you get to walk this earth. The

Jadeleast you could do is >> not [ __ ] any other men while you're talking regular life. Like you died of natural causes like in I think after some time you grieve and you like you

Brian Atlasshould be able to like move on. But I also feel like it also hold uh by the way Tiffany any uh gifted 20 and over. I don't think I told you this. Not your fault. Uh 20 and over gifted. Leave them

Brian Atlasso I can shout them out. Yo, Natalia, thank for the gifted 50 whatever memberships. Uh Natal guys. W's in the chat for Natalia. What a [ __ ] legend Natalyia is. Thank you, Natalia. Love

Brian Atlasyou. >> Thank you, Natalia. Thank you. Oh my god. Oh, wait. I can do the gay voice. That's the one I was looking at. >> I know. I know.

Brian Atlas>> Oh my god, Molly. Your little butterfly tattoo is so cute. >> You do a good gateway. That was frightening. >> That's right. Oh my god, she's got braces, too. I just noticed. Oh my god,

Brian Atlas>> the lisp is real. >> Just like in the little pretty poison. You are so pretty. Oh my god, >> you sound gay. >> She's giving me nothing. Molly gives me

Brian Atlasnothing. Okay. Uh, all right. Next topic. Let me blast through this. Let me I'm gonna wrap the show early tonight. All right, we got Mason here. Your virginity is still intact. Mason, you can hide it. Natalyia, thank you very

Brian Atlasmuch. Natalia, thank you. Thank you, Natalia. Thank you. That was so bad. I My Trump impression is not good. >> The best.

Brian Atlas>> Uh I think Yeah, maybe. Uh okay. Uh I did. Okay, we already talked about the Mason stuff, dude. Uh

Brian Atlasyeah. Uh we got Jade, massage therapist. Uh you have Jade, you you have is it two de fathers or how many? You have how many kids? >> Oh, I have my nephew that I've raised.

Brian Atlas>> Oh, you don't have kids? I don't Sorry, I got my notes mixed up. Um you Oh, you've got disagreement. Some of his opinions on the value of a woman past a certain age. Uh so what are my opinions? What have I

Jadesaid? I'm trying to remember now >> the value of a woman past a certain age. Oh, I think it was um kind of like when

Jadeyou have mentioned before about like um >> like when a as a woman gets older, she loses her value like because of one like I think you've said before about like um

Jadeher ability to not have children anymore like you know she just loses her value as age but then at the same time you've like talked about like women getting like you know work done and this but

Jadewomen are getting work done to present themselves is younger so they feel like they have more value because you've said that like as women get older they lose their value. >> What does that have to do with the work done thing though? Well, first off I

Jadehaven't said that >> you did earlier you were when you were saying about like you would never pay for um like your girl to get work done like her Botox and her and this and that. >> What I'm saying that I've never said is

Brian AtlasI've never said that women lose their value as they age. I've never clip I saw. So maybe it wasn't inaccurate. >> Well, that's not what I've said. I've never said that. Um what I can say, so

Brian Atlasum just to be clear, let me preface this by saying that regardless of your age, whether you're young or you're old, all people have equal, uh whether you're a

Brian Atlasman or a woman, all people have equal inherent value, equal moral value. Now, perhaps you've heard me say something like, "When it comes to your value on

Brian Atlasthe dating landscape, in the dating marketplace, then yes, some people have more value than others." For example, I have I'm a chubby, overweight 36-year-old. I have I I have some

Brian Atlaspositive characteristics, I have some negative characteristics. I think a guy who's like in his mid20s, who's a professional athlete, who makes like way

Brian Atlasmore money than I do, who's incredibly fit and good-looking and tall. Uh he would be assessed as having more value uh by women. So, but but so there's not

Brian Atlasa cope that's going on on my end. There are things that can raise your value, lower your value. Not as a human being. Again, we have equal value as human beings, but the value that I the value

Brian Atlasproposition to the opposite sex when selecting for a a partner, a husband, a wife, whatever it is, people can have

Brian Atlasvarying levels of uh value proposition. So, like an obese woman, for example, uh probably generally speaking has a lower value proposition than a woman who

Brian Atlashas a healthy BMI. Mhm. >> Uh an a woman who's 70 has lower lower value proposition on the dating marketplace than a 25-year-old supermodel.

Brian Atlas>> Like more men are going to want to date the 25-year-old supermodel than the 70-year-old woman. Now, even going beyond just more extremes, I believe a a 20-year-old woman who's beautiful uh has

Brian Atlasa higher value proposition than a 40year-old woman who's beautiful. >> Yeah, I can agree with that when you're talking dating stance. Yeah. >> Right. Yeah. So, it's not about like

Brian Atlasit's not about saying that a woman as a human has less value. It's purely like just it's just objectively true that say like a woman who's 20 who's good-looking

Brian Atlasversus like almost all things being equal, a good-looking woman at 20 versus a good-looking woman at 40. More men are going to gravitate towards the 20-year-old across almost like most age

Brian Atlasdemographics. uh just because like let's say it's men who want to have children to be look women at 40 can still get pregnant but it's I mean it it it's

Brian Atlasharder greater likelihood of miscarriage birth defects etc etc um men have their own potential complications as they age too but not to the degree that women do so I don't know if that explains it or

Brian Atlasif you have any push back or >> No >> so would you agree though that generally speaking as people by the way I want to make something

Brian AtlasI also think that as men age they also lose some of their value proposition in

Brian Atlasexcuse me but tripping over my tongue here in a bit different of a timeline than women

Brian Atlas>> but like I genu generally think that um like there is a bit of a cope I find in some people saying oh well a man peaks in his 40s I'm

Brian AtlasWell, you take like a really attractive guy at 25 and put him at 40. I still think like the hot 20-year-olds would prefer to date the like him at 25 than him at 40. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> So, I think there's some cope there, but I do think men have a bit more of a a little bit more of a runway. men have a longer runway when it comes to um being

Brian AtlasI guess their attraction uh attraction assessment, but I do think like also some some men can age terribly and uh so I mean

Brian Atlasthere's all kinds of factors, but uh yeah, generally speaking, I think it goes it I think it's the both for both

Brian Atlasmen and women. I think as men age uh your value can decrease. >> Yeah. No, I can agree. >> But there are way like there are there's

Brian Atlasintersections here. So I think that like if a man at 20 uh was broke but then like when he becomes 30 he's making

Brian Atlasmillions of dollars a year. He's he's uh and sometimes often resources acrew with age, right? He's increased his value

Brian Atlasproposition. So, in that instance, you might argue that he, you know, when he's 30, he he's more valuable, so to speak.

Brian Atlas>> No, I can agree with that. >> And a lot of guys have the experience of when they were 20, they went wouldn't get any play, but as they got older, they they got more uh their options

Brian Atlasincreased. So, >> yeah, for sure. >> That's it. Okay. Um, let me see if there was anything else in terms of your disagreements then. Um, but yeah,

Brian Atlasgenerally I would say generally speaking, uh, men find younger women more physically attractive. They find them more appealing as partners. Now, can they get them? A lot of the time,

Brian Atlasno. Like, I would argue your average 35-year-old guy doesn't have the requisite uh, attractiveness to get like a hot 20-year-old. But will they still think that

Brian Atlas20-year-old women are more attractive than 30-year-old women? Yes. But they can't [ __ ] them. So, they can't get them. They can't. So, it's like uh they have to beggars can't be choosers, you

Brian Atlasknow. Um uh but yeah. Um you also disagree with how many bodies she has like and that mattering I guess. Well, that was like

Jadekind of like with the instance we talked about earlier where it's like um when you were saying should someone like a man who has a high body count like kind of like judge a woman who also has a a high body count? That's more where that

Brian Atlascame from. But >> I think that's fine. >> Yeah. >> Um well, I guess uh speaking of body count, uh what's your body count?

Brian Atlas>> Eight. Four. >> I don't disclose the information. Do >> you want to do a range like a ballpark? >> It's a respectable number. >> Less than 10. >> Um, it's a respectable number. >> More than 10.

SPEAKER_05>> Respectable number. >> More. Mason, what about you, bud? >> Zero. >> What is it? >> I'm not going to disclose. >> What is it, M? >> Zero. >> V. You're virgin. >> I'm a virgin. >> I'm also a virgin.

Brian Atlas>> Very nice. Very nice. I'm a virgin. >> Swear. I knew it. Uh-huh. >> I knew it. I knew you were a person all this time. >> Uh, let's see here. Um, you went on a a date with a guy that [ __ ] his pants

Jadehalfway through. >> God. >> Now, was it before or after you kissed him? >> It was after. >> Nice. >> Oh, wow. I Okay. >> Goodness. >> You did kiss him, though. >> Yeah, it's Well, it's the guy I'm

Jadecurrently seeing. >> Oh my gosh. >> What? >> That would be crazy. Yeah, we were walking um the Oceanside Pier and we were just like chilling. All of a sudden, he just like let go of my hand

Jadeand walked ahead and I was like, "Oh, like [ __ ] I think he's mad at me or something." And he just sprinted towards the bathroom and then I finally caught up to him. But and he was like, "Yeah, I projectile [ __ ] all over the bathroom." And

Brian Atlas>> I was like, "Well, I guess it's >> I guess that's kind of like a girl >> in his fairness." So, he had IBS at the time. >> I mean, [ __ ] I mean, that's a that's a good girl, though. like you did something embarrassing on the first date

Brian Atlasand she still >> stuck it out. >> Stuck it out, you know. So, good good for him, I guess. Uh, you said why uh why men aren't men anymore.

JadeOh, that yeah, like >> why men aren't men anymore >> as far as like why men do fall more into like the femininity of like um the

Jadegender roles pretty much like men at least a lot of the men that I've encountered like in my environment is I know you don't like the word beta but like they have that aspect of like they would rather be the one that's chased.

JadeThey would rather be the one that's just like, you know, catered to and that they don't like very low effort and then expect immense effort from a woman rather it be like give and take give and take. >> I love that.

Brian Atlas>> I feel like you do. >> It's a better dynamic. I think it's a better dynamic to be honest. Now look, I I've dated a lot of women. I've shot my shot. I most of the women I've dated I've shot my shot. But uh I think it's

Brian Atlasbetter for the woman to be the s. It's way better for the woman to be the Sim. Now, my belief though, my belief, I think the woman should I think the Well, one, if the woman likes you, it depends

Brian Atlasthe I mean, it depends on the context here. If the woman likes you and you don't even know she exists, like let's say she's a fan of yours. Yeah. >> Like, you have a toxic podcast and she

Brian Atlaswatches your show and you have no [ __ ] idea who she is. How am I supposed to be the traditional man? I don't know who the woman is who likes me. She has to shoot her shot. Otherwise, how the [ __ ] am I gonna ever

Jade>> Well, I don't even mean like shooting the shot because I'm not opposed to like a woman like addressing a man of being like, "Hey, like I'm interested." But I just mean more of like when you are now

Jadein the aspect of dating >> and putting in no effort and expecting 100% from you, but not giving you that same 100% back. Well, I think the woman can at least shoot her shot and then you

Brian Atlastake on the reigns from there. You're you lead the way from there. That's been my experience. If a girl shoots her shot with me, uh I'll take on the reigns. I'll move things forward. Although it is

Brian Atlassometimes annoying when like the woman shoots her shot and then she has like zero follow through and it's just like >> what is follow through to you? Like it's like, "Okay, you're shooting your shot

Brian Atlasand then like I'm kind of all right, cool, talk, talk, talk." Blah, blah, blah. Great. Let's meet. >> And then she's like >> taking like she's she's uh making it like a pain in the

Brian Atlasass to actually like make that happen or whatever. Like making it a big [ __ ] complication. Whereas some women make it see like completely seamless. It's just like, "Okay, cool. I'll come see you."

Brian AtlasBoom. Make it easy. Um I don't know. But uh Okay. Uh, but are women women? You say men aren't men. Are women women? >> No. A lot of women aren't women anymore.

Brian Atlas>> It's all [ __ ] up. We should just I don't know. Let the robots take over AI. Um, >> what makes someone uh We're going to skip that one. Why Why do men say they

Brian Atlaswant a wholesome woman but only go for Insta Hose? That's what you wrote. Uh, so I think men shouldn't be following any women on Instagram to be honest.

Brian Atlasuh they shouldn't be liking photos, they shouldn't be following them. Uh but you you say that like a lot of these guys um they claim they want like wholesome women, but they're following these like

Brian Atlasfake titty women on IG and they're being gooners and degenerates. Is that >> is this a fair trade as representative of the male delegation? By the way, I

Brian Atlasdon't follow any women on Instagram. I don't like women's photos. I don't care. Um, but as representative of all men, obviously,

Brian Atlasdo you take the following trade? Us men, not me, but us men, we agree to never follow another woman on Instagram. We agree to never uh like a woman's

Brian Atlasphoto on Instagram. But in exchange for that, you women can't have social media. >> That's fine. I don't >> Do you take the trade?

Brian Atlas>> I take the trade. Okay, maybe that's a big ass, though. What about this? Uh, you women can't post revealing photos. You can't post thirst traps. You can't post bikini photos. You can't post photos where it's like, "Here's my ass."

JadeYou can't do that [ __ ] >> Do you take the trade? >> Like, are you talking about like in general or like when you're in a relationship? Cuz like if I'm involved with somebody, I'm never doing that

Brian Atlasbecause that's just disrespectful. >> I don't do that period. >> I don't know. I'd have to look at your guys' Instagrams to be honest. >> Just my babies and my kids. >> Well, there you go then. >> And my business.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Um, yeah. Uh, Dana, you definitely have raised your daughters to be independent and capable of taking care of themselves, but they do expect a traditional man.

DanaWhat does that mean though to be independent? I feel like all women, girls should know that they can go out and they can take

Danacare of themselves, that they can provide for themselves, that they can get a place to live, have a car, pay their bills, >> because I never want my girls to one day

Danabe married, and it not turn out how it was expected to. Maybe they're abusive. Who who knows what can happen? I don't want them to ever feel like I can't get out of this bad situation because I

Danadon't know how I'm going to take care of myself and my kids. Like I I want them to be able to know. It's kind of like me. Even though I didn't work when my babies were little, >> if something were to have happened, I

Danahave an education and I have the ability to go earn as much as my husband if I want. And I just I really my girls are independent but yet they still want quote unquote the white picket fence

Danasituation. But I think in this day and time you have to raise your daughters to be strong because they are just being unleashed into a society that is nothing like traditional

Brian Atlas>> if that makes sense. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, obviously the question is is like, okay, what should a woman do prior to meeting a guy? Is she just

Brian Atlassupposed to be destitute? Is she supposed to be homeless? Is she just supposed to stay with her parents? Um, I don't think the answer is yes to any of those. Perhaps the staying with parents

Brian Atlasis fine, but I I think there tends to be a component here where

Brian Atlasis the woman's career ambition? So, and does her career ambition interrupt or

Brian Atlasdis dis uh what's the right word? Does it conflict or cause problems in a relationship she has with a man? And does it prevent her from meeting a man? Because I think it's one thing. Okay,

Brian Atlasgreat. You have a 9 to5. You have a regular anticipatory schedule. You don't you're not like some boss babe hustler who's like it's a guy asks you out on a

Brian Atlasdate on a Saturday and you're busy with your hustle. Then that becomes like it it goes from just she's making money to

Brian Atlaslike sort of provide for a base level of comfort in her life to like chasing something beyond that creates complications in a relationship. I've

Brian Atlasdefinitely encountered situations where I'm like trying to like a girl's just so involved in her business or her hustle or whatever where I'm like it's hard to make a plan with her. I'm trying to date you,

Brian Atlas>> right? >> You're too busy. You, as a woman, you should never be too busy to go on a date if you like the guy. >> Mhm. >> Like, you should never be too busy like

Brian Atlasthat. So, I I think there's a balance that women can strike between make having a job that isn't like I don't

Brian Atlasknow, maybe they shouldn't be um some like 70 hour per week attorney. >> Mhm. >> Where it's like, "Hi, I'd like to take you on a date on a Saturday at 7:00 p.m.

Brian AtlasOh, sorry. I got I got a big case coming up. I can't go on a date." Not that I don't like you. So, there's a balance that I think women should strike there when it comes to being independent.

Brian AtlasUm, if if like it's complicated, like you got [ __ ] going on and I want to see you on a on a you know, a weekend or something and she can't, it's like, okay, well,

Dana>> well, have you ever heard that saying that th those who want to make time? >> I think. >> Yeah. There's also gen >> genuinely you don't have >> there are genuinely um types of jobs where >> you are that busy.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, that's true. >> It's like I got [ __ ] to do. I got the deadline. I got XYZ. And so I think those types of jobs maybe are not well suited for um >> someone looking for marriage and traditional.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Cuz I I think like if I encounter a woman who let's and look, sometimes women will use the excuse because they're just not that into you. But let's assume that they are into you, but

Brian Atlasthey're genuinely busy to the point where it's a frustration to go on a date with you. Or she cancels like she, oh, something came up and I've got to cancel. Or you could just have a

Brian Atlas9-to-five job where you're not going to get blindsided by some [ __ ] and uh prioritize meeting up with me. And I'm like in my mind I I've had situations

Brian Atlaswhere even like a girl who's got like a shitty $20 an hour job. I've I've had this situation occur and I'm thinking in my head, okay, you can get any 20 you

Brian Atlasget fire you could get fired from your job and you can find another job that'll pay you $20 an hour. Like that's not some big career loss to get fired from a like a 20 an hour job. But I've

Brian Atlasliterally like and I look I'm I'm not going to brag, but like I make good money and it's like I'm literally my value proposition that I'm offering here is if you're with me, you're never going to have to work. And I have women who

Brian Atlaswill cancel a date on me because they got called in to their $20 an hour job. I'm like, are you [ __ ] [ __ ] If you're with me, you never have to work. You're gonna cancel my our date because

Brian Atlasyou got called in to your $20 an hour job. >> Okay. I see where your I see where your uh your uh [ __ ] what's it called?

DanaPriorities. Priorities are >> and it's like I don't know. >> I think it depends on what the woman wants. I mean, obviously, if you're in that kind of

Brian Atlassituation, you don't really want to date, you know. I don't know. But um okay, let's see. Uh

Brian Atlasgoing to I think Molly's notes, right? Um wait, where was I? How did I get there? Uh I saw you did some content with Churley's Molly. Are you um are you

Brian AtlasPaulie? >> You and your husband. Are you Paulie dating other people or whatever? >> No. >> Okay, never mind. I was going to I saw you did content with Chirley's. I was

Brian Atlasgoing to ask if you smashed Chley's. No, >> but no, you're not Paulie, so disregard. Uh, you went on a date with a guy who happened to have a girlfriend. He told you upfront he was looking for polyamorous

Mollyrelationship and you agreed to also date him while he still dated her. >> So, I actually was when I was you sent me those are the first questions and then the second ones I kind of answered

Mollyit in my second ones. What I mean by that is uh me personally, I think well, for example, that's my now husband. He had a girlfriend, which I didn't care

Mollybecause if I'm going to be with someone forever, I feel like the guy I wanted him to be able to choose. Like, I'm not I'm not a jealous person. So, I think it's okay that a man can explore his

Mollyoptions and choose. But when it comes down to like being with someone forever, you only get one person, which he chose to be me. >> Okay. So he was in an open relationship.

Molly>> Yeah. She the girlfriend didn't quite like having someone else around, but so eventually they did break up due to that. But yes. >> So you were both dating him at the same time though? >> Yeah. But we were not dating each other.

Brian AtlasMe and her. No. >> No. Not Not you and her. But you were both dating your now husband. >> Yes. >> Okay. She got jealous and then she broke up with him. >> Um and now Wait, I'm confused. Wait,

Brian Atlaswait, wait. You said you're married, but when did you reach out to us? >> I reached out to you like this week. >> You said he's the guy you're currently

Mollyengaged to. When did you get married? >> We got married like we got together right about when I just had turned 18. Maybe a few months after that. So, we

Brian Atlashad been together. I don't know. >> When did you get married? >> I don't I don't know the exact date, but >> How do you not know you're Whoa, that's Hold on. What >> happened? >> Huh?

Brian Atlas>> How would you Wait, wait, wait. No, no, no. That's [ __ ] [ __ ] >> That's [ __ ] [ __ ] >> Do you want to call him? >> No. That's total [ __ ] Who doesn't know the exact date they get married?

MollyThat's like your anniversary date. Well, I have I mean, you're putting me on the spot, so I have anxiety about it. I can't answer things on the spot, but I am very much

Brian Atlas>> Could you answer when your birthday is? You don't have to tell me, but Right. But that's a date. Like, how do you not know when your you got married? >> Because I don't know the exact >> Was there was there a wedding?

Molly>> Not really. It was kind of just like >> So, you just go to the courthouse and >> Well, it was in Vegas. I I I honestly don't know the date, but I like I told you, we were together. >> So, wait, you got legally married or you

Mollyhad just like a ceremony with an Elvis. >> Legally married? >> Okay. Um >> I don't know why I'm being questioned for if I'm I don't That's an

Brian Atlas>> Well, because in your messages to us, you said you were engaged. >> Uh-huh. >> And you messaged us a week ago. >> So, did you get married in the past week? >> No. So then why did a week ago you said

Mollyyou were engaged? >> But I I don't know if you realize, but I also messed up in my other message by saying that I was Paulie, which I'm not. >> When did you say you were Polly? >> Like you just said, if you read my first

Mollymessages, they're a little bit different than my second group of messages. I said that I said yes to being in a polyamorous relationship. But then I clarified that because when I don't know

Mollywhen I was doing the questions, I was super excited. I wasn't thinking but upon answering the second questions you gave me there's way more detail and the answers are correct.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. So then you were mistaken in your messaging then I guess. Um but you said currently engaged to. >> Yes. But we're we're married legally. >> Legally married. >> Yes. We've been married for over a year.

Brian AtlasI mean I'm about to turn 20. We got married like within >> three or four months of being together. Um, you said it was controversial. It's controversial. You believe women are uh

Brian Atlasare meant to serve men >> and men should be treated like what? >> Well, I mean, >> wait, wait, wait. Men should be treated like what? >> Did your Who wrote this for you?

Brian Atlas>> I wrote this. >> Men should be treated like what? >> I don't know. >> You These were your own words. >> Yes, but I don't wrote

Brian Atlas>> Who wrote this for you? I wrote that for myself, but I don't know. >> Men >> exactly what I wrote. >> You You wrote, "Women are meant to serve men, and men should be treated like kings."

Molly>> Okay. Okay. Well, I could have answered that, but I didn't know if I would have wrote that. Anyone could have answered that, but that's so like it. >> Okay. >> But that's also not controversial to anything we've talked about today. I was

Mollyexpecting it to be controversial. Controversial. But >> why do you ask these women? Well, I was expecting a bunch of liberals, so that's why I said it would.

Brian Atlas>> I'll I'll debate you on any of this, but um Okay. So, I mean, even conservative women will have contentions with conservative women. We'll have contentions with you about >> your claim that women are meant to serve

Angelicamen. I don't know. I think these women might disagree with you >> and they probably do. But I believe that >> Do you are are women meant to serve men? Not meant to serve but

Angelica>> gladly when the dynamic is correct. >> Exactly. >> You have my complete submission, devotion, all of it. >> Obviously, he has to do his part. I'm not meaning any random man, but

Brian Atlas>> my husband, yes, I'm supposed to serve him. >> All right. You You also said that men should also be allowed to >> explore their options in dating. Is that what you're talking about? >> Like date

Molly>> multiple women. Multiple women. Yes. before. So, like I explained the situation with my boyfriend at the time. Um, I believe guys should be able to

Mollydate multiple girls in the beginning before they decide to settle down with someone so they can see if that's the right fit for them,

Mollywhich not everyone agrees with, but >> yeah.

Mason Gregoire>> Goodness. I mean,

Mason Gregoireyeah. I mean, it just I don't know.

MollySo, reexplain your point again. I'm trying to I'm trying to wrap my head around this. It's very different from probably what you would agree with, but um I just believe that if a guy is going

Mollyto dedicate his life to being with someone to take care of her forever >> to like like provide protect that he has the right to like have choices. He shouldn't just meet me and then I should

Mollyexpect him >> to instantly devote everything to me. I there should be a period of like the dating period where he still has other options and he chooses the best wife for

Mason Gregoirehim, you could say. >> Mhm. Yeah. Well, so I I I guess what like the issue I think Brian is having is like

Mason GregoireI don't know. It seems like there's like a you're saying certain things but then like you come back and infer other positions. I don't know. It's It's just

Mason Gregoirekind It is kind of strange. It is kind of strange. Like Like it does sound like a You might not have written these messages. So >> I can write my messages. I mean, I can

Mollyprobably if I don't I don't know how I wouldn't have written them. How did I know what that one said before he even said it? >> I mean, if you you wrote it. >> Yeah, I wrote it. I don't know what why I'm being questioned. I mean, did I Are

Brian Atlasyou saying if I wrote AI to answer my questions? I can't answer. >> No, I don't know. Like either an OF manager or your boyfriend. >> I have an OAF manager. >> Your boyfriend. Well, I mean, even if you uh even if you did have an OF

Brian Atlasmanager, you wouldn't a lot of women wouldn't admit to it, but um >> or it could just be your husband or fiance or boyfriend or whatever. But, uh you say you find you're Republican,

Brian Atlasyou're very religious, but your line of work is against all that. I mean, we kind of talked about that. Um, you said you're very religious though. >> Yeah. So, I do believe in God strongly.

MollyEven though I know what I'm doing isn't in line with that. I do believe in him and I know what I'm doing is wrong, but I do consider myself to be very religious.

Brian Atlas>> I I don't know how you So, you can believe in God, believe in religion or whatever. Um, but I don't know if you can take the label very religious. Yeah. >> Like I think when I think of someone

Mason Gregoirevery religious, this is somebody who very much observes the religion. >> Yeah. Like at cost at own personal cost, I will dedicate my life to this religion.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> And so your your worldly uh materialism supersedes um because you would agree that people can struggle financially and not turn to sex work.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Right. So your desire for material through your sex work um is contradictory to religion.

Molly>> Mhm. >> So you might believe in God. >> So yeah, I guess >> but I don't think you're very religious. >> Yeah, I agree with you there. Maybe I'm wording it like wrong. I don't follow

Mollyall the beliefs. So if that's what being very religious means, then I guess I'm not. But I do believe in God and everything he says. But I don't. >> Well, you know, you know who else believes in God and everything he says?

Mason Gregoire>> The devil believes in God and everything he says, >> but he lives his life exactly opposed to it. >> Mhm. >> So, who is your God? Cuz it's probably not the one that you say it is.

Mason Gregoire>> It's not the devil. >> I'm not saying it's the devil. >> I'm what it sounds like. is saying that you are your own God because your desires, your life is more important

Mason Gregoirethan his commandments and his desires for your life. Cuz I mean, you might be able to say that that that's not true, but your life suggests otherwise. >> Do you think God wants you doing sex work? >> No.

Mason Gregoire>> Yeah. >> Okay. Um >> which which just it suggests that you don't actually see God as God. You see

Mason Gregoireyourself as God because your cares and desires and the thing the struggles that you would have to put up with are more important than the things that he puts

Mollyimportance upon. >> I believe that God loves everybody and I know that what I'm doing is wrong, but he will forgive me for it and he is able to understand everything everyone is

Mason Gregoiregoing through. So >> yeah. Well, do you think he's gonna forgive everybody for everything they've done? He >> Yes, he will. >> Really? >> He will. >> So, hell is empty? >> No.

Molly>> Okay. So, who who goes to hell then? >> I guess it depends what you do. I If you kill someone, but it does he does say that God forgives everybody. He will forgive you. >> Well, so then who's in hell? People that

Mollyhe's already forgiven. >> I don't know why people would go to hell. I don't know. I don't know what decides like you're going to hell, but God will forgive everyone. So, I guess

Mollymaybe the people who are in hell are people who went to hell and they didn't repent for their sins before they died. >> I do have a chat coming through here.

Brian AtlasUh, Blest, I was told recently that beer is full of female hormones. I disagreed, but later on I drank nine or 10 pints. Then suddenly I find myself to be quite

Brian Atlasobnoxious, opinionated, and I couldn't drive at all.

Brian AtlasHops. He's I think he's talking about hops in the beer. Thank you, Blafes. Appreciate it. All right. Um I'll just move it on. >> Uh you said your first date led to moving into someone's garage less than

Brian Atlasone week in. It brought you to a house, to a mansion, and then living on the beach, all within 1.5 years. Is that your current guy? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um,

Molly>> we moved in together basically immediately, very quick. >> Mhm. >> Um, and then he was working on the business in Utah and got things going

Mollyfor us. And it's always been his dream to come to LA. So we eventually moved here and that's when he got sick. >> Okay. Uh you said modern day women have

Brian Atlasforgotten what being a woman is. Feminism has destroyed so much. Uh woke Okay, agreed. Um wokeness and men hate,

Brian Atlasexcuse me, wokeness and men hate is out of control and is ruining relationships. You also think God should be involved. So, uh, what is the man hate that you

Mollylike disagree with? I guess >> I think now a lot of women hate men just because it for one, it's a trend. I think just I hate men because who knows

Mollyreally why it's just a trend. But I hear men are just cheaters. Men, you hear all the things they do wrong. And all men are bad. like the bear example that they

Mollymost women would say they'd rather be alone with a bear than a man, which is just crazy. I mean, you're there's that's just not logical at all. Mhm.

Molly>> So I just feel like men get hate for no reason when I mean if you were to say the same

Mollyexample about anybody else like I don't know if I was to if I saw a black person kill someone. Can I be scared of all black people now because they killed

Mollysomeone who is white and now I can hate all of them? No, I can't. So the same thing should go for men or anybody.

Brian AtlasYeah, I mean agreed. Um, you u support ICE also?

Brian AtlasUh, okay. Does anybody anybody else here an ICE supporter? >> Hell no. >> Hell no. >> Yeah. I mean, yeah. >> Mics, guys, please. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yes.

Jade>> Yes. >> So, hell no. Why do you say hell no? because I just don't believe that as well I don't agree with the way that

Jadethings have been handled with ICE with how like current situations I do believe that in a country we need like areas of protection absolutely there should be

Jadeenforcements that are there to protect us but going after people who aren't an actual threat to us like our own citizens who do also pay taxes and and I

Jademean if you want to be real like this [ __ ] is stolen land at the end of the day. So >> Oh boy. Okay, here we go. >> That's just what it is. Okay, hold on. >> We're all No, I just mean like we are all we all come from somewhere >> like I come from like my ancestry comes

Jadefrom somewhere different. Your ancestry comes from somewhere different. So I don't think that is a basis of Oh, because you were not born here, you don't belong here.

Jade>> Okay, hold on a couple things. Um what is stolen land? Well, this land was stolen. It was not the mic. >> This land was stolen. It was not even like all of America.

Brian Atlas>> All of America. So, Native American Wait, wait. So, Native Americans prior to the arrival of Europeans, >> they uh Native Americans

Jadeoccupied all pieces of land in the United States. I mean, I cannot like say, "Oh, they occupied 100% of every >> What percentage of land did Native Americans occupy?"

Mason Gregoire>> But they a lot of land, but it's just the fact that you can't murder people, take the land, and like >> Oh. Oh. Well, but that's what the natives did, though. I mean, they skinned each other alive. They they

Mason Gregoireabsolutely obliterated each other. They did horrendous things to each other, taking each other's land. But I'm saying when you're talking about immigration, right, we're >> they >> colonizers, whatever, right? Like

Jade>> settlers. Settlers. Yeah. >> They came here. >> Agreed. >> They are not born here. So, does that mean every person >> did you know that >> that comes after them doesn't belong here? >> Indigenous people weren't actually born

Jadehere either. They actually traveled here from uh what was it? Asia. >> Okay. So then when there was a land people say then like oh because you weren't born here, you don't belong

Mason Gregoirehere. No one was born here. None of us were here because I am a citizen. >> Because because I'm a citizen here, I belong here. >> But there because people in invaded this country

Jadeas non-citizens demanding all of the benefits citizens have committed domestic terrorism, murdered innocent people and children, and they were from here. They were born here. They're Americans

Jade>> and they go to jail. >> They go to jail society. And when we >> I'm not saying they don't go to jail, but I'm just saying that you can't say that because someone is from somewhere else that they don't have a right to have a better >> Wait, wait, hold on. Oh, go ahead. Go

Mason Gregoireahead. >> So, if somebody else's child broke into my house and let's say uh broke a vase of mine, should I put them in timeout into one of my bedrooms? No. I should kick them out of my house. I should tell

Jadetheir parents, hey, you need to punish this kid because he broke something in my house. Okay, but this is that's the exact point I'm making. You're talking about someone who has done wrong. >> I'm not talking about people who are committing crimes.

Mason Gregoire>> Say a neighbor's kid. So, say a neighbor's kid just walks into my house. What should I do? Should I welcome him in? Hey, you you haven't done anything wrong yet, so you should just say >> just if a child just walks into your house, you're not going to be like, get

Jadethe [ __ ] out of my house. You're going to inquire what's going on first. >> You're going to kick them out. >> You're not going to immediately kick a child out of your house. I can assure you I did one. >> You're going to kick a child out of the house. So, a couple things here.

Brian Atlas>> Oh, no. It's not unrealistic. >> Let's establish a couple things here. So, you're in favor of deporting the illegal immigrants who commit crimes. >> Correct. >> Who are violent. >> Who are Yes. Who are violent.

Brian Atlas>> Let me go back actually. You are in favor of deporting illegal immigrants who commit crimes. >> Yeah. Like crimes that are like harming against people like drugs. >> What about just commit crimes?

Jade>> Okay. If we're talking about people who are like traffic [ __ ] and stuff like that, then no. Like I don't think that's validity to kick someone out. But if someone >> traffic >> Yeah. Like there's some people who like >> traffic drugs or what do you

Jade>> No, no, no. Like traffic stop like traffic violations like civil violations. >> No, I'm talking about crimes. >> Yeah. But if you're talking about like drug crimes, murder things like Absolutely. like that's you don't

Jadedeserve to be like I understand and like I said like I come from you know an immigrant ancestry and I know certain areas right like that have that's deadly

Jadefor them. So like if I'm I'm thinking parentwise right >> if I have an opportunity legal paper-wise or not to give my family a better opportunity I'm going to do that and I'm going to once I'm there I'm

Brian Atlasgoing to earn every day that I'm there. So, if you're here illegally, unless you like overstate a visa or something, although this might still come, this might be some other sort of uh

Brian Atlasimmigration crime. Uh illegal border crossing into the United States is a federal crime. >> That is a crime. It's 8 USC. I just looked it up. 1325. >> Mhm. >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> It's a federal crime. I'm not saying it's okay. But so my position would be even if you're completely law-abiding and you're here illegally, deport. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. >> Deport.

Brian Atlas>> Yes. >> Deport them all. >> Are you >> Are you an illegal immigrant? >> No, I'm not. >> Okay. Don't worry. I'm not going to call on you. Um >> you can. You would. >> I know. I even Look, if I had an illegal

Brian Atlasimmigrant on the show, I would not call ICE on them. I would not. That would be um inappropriate. But uh yeah, so basically anybody who is here illegally

Brian Atlaswho is not a citizen, they should be subject to deportation. >> I disagree. >> Okay. So I understand well you were saying this argument of well um who

Brian Atlaswouldn't want a better life. So perhaps even myself if I was born in Honduras or some [ __ ] maybe I maybe I would try to get into the country, but I wouldn't be

Brian Atlassurprised if I got deported. So I I understand the motivation for wanting to live in the United States. It's one of the most prosperous nations in the world. I think it's >> like the best country in the world

Jade>> with like >> the the the department of ice in a whole. I'm talking about like currently the state of things, how things have been handled, how people have been treated. I do not

Brian Atlasagree with that. I didn't, you know, I wasn't like, >> okay, >> super anti ice, but the way that things have been, I do not. >> Well, there's a lot of propaganda and politics involved in that. People were

Brian Atlasbeing deported in just a similar way back during Obama, back during Biden, even like going you can go back back uh illegally.

Brian Atlas>> A problem with the kid. I was socially aware of that then as I am >> Obama deported a bunch of people. They were being apprehended sometimes physically, sometimes violently. >> And if that's if that's I was then

Brian Atlasthat's wrong, too. >> No, it's not wrong to physically detain. >> It's happening the way that it's that I see it happening. >> So, so hold on. Let's go ahead. Let's cut through the noise. Let's go ahead

Brian Atlasand grant that ICE has made some mistakes in either like their conduct towards um citizens of the United States or it's

Brian Atlascertainly if you're going to be mass deporting people. Yeah, there's going to be instances where ICE um you know was a bit rough or there might have been brutality or whatever. And I'm going to

Brian Atlasagree with you in all provable and true instances of police misconduct or police brutality or even unjustified killings, which whatever. Let's go ahead and agree

Brian Atlasthat those are all wrong. Now, the central mission of uh ICE is to deport illegal immigrants. that mission uh ought to continue going on despite their

Brian Atlasperhaps look if you're going to be policing an entire nation. You're going to be uh enforcing immigration laws. Police are not perfect. They're going to make mistakes. Let's go ahead and grant

Brian Atlasthat. Yeah. um if there were instances of unjust killing or there were instances of them being too rough or whatever it is that hm maybe that maybe that should be addressed, maybe there

Brian Atlascan be redress in the court system, maybe the specific officers involved in that should be reprimanded or fired. But the core mission of ICE is to deport illegal immigrants. You're against that?

JadeI mean, for me, it's just like if someone is here and they're not posing a danger and they're literally just providing a better life for their family, they're paying the same tax as I am. Like, >> so I don't see an issue with them being

Mason Gregoirein this country. They're not posing. >> It is damage. It is a threat. Do you know Do you know how it's a threat though? It's because it costs the American taxpayer so much money. Why do you think the taxes in California are so

Mason Gregoirehigh? because a ton of fraud is going on. Who's the who's the guy? Um, no. Was it Nick Shirley? Why? Yeah. Yeah. Nick Shirley. He just he helped

Mason Gregoireuncover like what is it almost like millions I know hundreds of millions of dollars of fraud being occurring in California a lot because of illegal immigration

Mason Gregoirebecause they they can take that money with no tax no tax on it. uh they can have all of these benefits that we as Americans pay for. Yeah. You know, be fantastic and would probably lower taxes

Mason Gregoirea lot if all of those illegal immigrants were deported. Then we'd be able to afford the housing that we need. All all prices for things would drop like rocks.

Jade>> It would be so much better. So, it is very devastating and harmful to American citizens. >> But not every immigrant even here in California doesn't pay illegal immigrant

Jadedoesn't pay taxes. I know many and they all pay their taxes from their job. So that's why I'm saying like I'm not talking just about like people who are coming in just taking like I'm talking

Jadeabout people who are even though they didn't come in the way people like like the right way with the paperwork and all that they are doing like the same job that I am. They are paying their taxes.

Mason GregoireThey are being law-abiding citizens. They just got themselves in. >> So they should be rewarded for cheating the system that a lot of people H hold up one second that they're being

Mason Gregoirerewarded with being granted into the country while other people are waiting in line to be able to get in the right way. Why should they why should the people who are waiting in the line to

Jadeget in correctly? Why are they being punished for people who shouldn't even be here? >> Okay. But then you could also say for some of the people who are coming here the right way, why is it easier for some

Jadecertain people from different countries to get in here faster than others? If they are doing at the same time and they have the same mission, why do like white immigrants get to get in here faster, which I have seen on many occasions versus people from like Central America,

Mason Gregoirethe Caribbean, like Asia? >> There's a whole lot of there's a whole lot of things that come up behind that. So if someone comes in from a country who is like okay so say someone tries to come in from Afghanistan like there's a

Mason Gregoirelot of things I need to be able to look into for someone who's coming from Afghanistan like I need to figure out if they have any ties to any terrorist organizations. I got to figure out exactly where they're coming from. Who are their connections in Afghanistan

Mason Gregoirebecause there's a lot of shady stuff that goes on there. However, if someone is trying to come here from >> there's a lot of shady stuff that happens in every country. >> No, not like that. If someone's trying to come from England, like, and they're

Mason Gregoirean Englishman, their family's lived in England forever, and they're trying to they're trying to become a US citizen, there's a lot less I'm going to have to really dig into. There's a lot less like I'm going to have to figure out, are

Mason Gregoirethey a felon? If they're not a felon, okay. Um, well, like there's not really too many things. I mean, we're allies with England, so there aren't too many >> that there's not like >> there's not nearly as much drug. Well,

Brian Atlasthey're they're also the people from England speak English. They're going to be able to assimilate to the culture. >> So much easier. >> They're going to be able to like maneuver uh through life easier if you speak. >> There are a lot there are a lot less

Jadehurdles that they're going to have to jump over to be able to integrate to our society. >> Okay. But when you go to another country even to travel, you don't learn the entire language immediately like

Jade>> No, but I respect their customs. >> Um Okay. you may be able to get in those certain ways, but there are certain prejudices that prevent people from getting in the right way. Like,

Brian Atlas>> so even if we were to grant that there is, and I I actually haven't seen any evidence of this, that there's some sort of prejudice that uh offers white people preferential treatment in legal

Brian Atlasimmigration. legal immigration is completely irrelevant to to to for the most part it's completely irrelevant to the question of illegal immigration. Uh

Brian Atlasso in this case if you want to levy criticisms of the legal immigration system and suggest that it's racist, you're welcome to do that. But that doesn't pertain whatsoever uh as to illegal immigration. So uh yeah, we

Brian Atlasshould deport all the illegal immigrants. I don't care if they've committed zero crimes or whatever. They all have to go. >> Well, you can go ahead and feel that way, but I disagree.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. So, um I want to get back to the stolen land thing, though. So, again, most someone in the chat might be able to correct me. Quite a bit of American land was purchased.

Brian Atlas>> So, you had the Louisiana purchased. We purchased like Alaska, for example, from Russia. Um so, much much of the United States was actually purchased. Um the

Brian Atlasrest of it was um conquered not stolen conquered that's different. Um you all countries in Europe uh were conquered one way like the people were conquered

Brian Atlasthere there was kings who were conquering each other fighting each other. So um you might not like it but uh conquest for all territories in the United States is the way that nations

Brian Atlashave been formed pretty much everywhere. Um, so is European is like uh European countries are they stolen land from other white people, I guess. Um, but

Jadeyeah, I don't understand the stolen land thing. >> Well, when I say stolen land, I'm not talking about like I mean obviously I'm not talking about every single piece of land, but there were absolutely

Jadeinstances in our history as far as America where they were forcefully purchased. Right. when you say like either you're going to sell us this land or we're going to kill you.

Mason Gregoire>> Well, it might be the case. >> Absolutely. However, pretty much every other piece of land in on Earth is under the same circumstances. >> And I do not agree that that's right. >> So, every piece of land is stolen. >> What is your proposal? Should there not

Jadebe borders? I'm >> not saying there shouldn't be borders, but I'm just saying but it's stolen land. But everything stolen land that you shouldn't be able to >> Is Mexico stolen land? I mean, didn't you just say every piece

Mason Gregoireis stolen at this point? >> I didn't say that. I'm trying to use your logical I'm trying to use your logic to be able to come to a conclusion. >> My logic is that I feel like everybody

Jadehas a right to make a life better for themselves if they're not posing like a violent or dangerous threat. If someone wants to come here and make a life for themselves with their family and escape

Jadedanger from the where they currently live, I don't have an issue with that. That's my personal opinion. That's you can absolutely feel differently, but I will >> wait hold up. So if a homeless man decides he wants to get out of his

Jadeterrible situation, he breaks into my home and demands that I take care of him. >> He is he is posing a threat to you by breaking into >> that is completely different than entering a country. >> They broke into the country though. >> Yeah, this is our >> they broke into the country and they're

Mason Gregoiregoing to take they're going to take the benefits of our country for themselves. >> We're just not going to agree on this. But >> because your conclusion is not based in logic, it's based on feelings. Okay. But that's my conclusion. So,

Mason Gregoire>> okay. I mean, as long as you understand that your conclusion has not come from any logical basis. It's based upon literally how you feel because logically speaking, we're trying to walk you through it.

Brian Atlas>> And it's just you're just refusing to do so. >> I am. You're right. I am refusing to do so because for me, I just can't see it that way. >> Well, really quick, the stolen land thing is curious to me. Even if we grant

Brian Atlasthat the land is stolen, are you saying then thus there can be no laws as it relates to uh borders on that land? >> No, it's honestly honestly where the

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