She DISRESPECTED Him?! Based VlRGlN Mason & Brian Atlas vs. Women HEATED DEBATE! | Dating Talk 290

Date: 2026-04-13

Duration: 9h 01m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAngelica (RE)>

MMason Gregoire >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Angelica(guest)

SPEAKER_02Mason Gregoire(guest)

SPEAKER_04Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_06Molly(guest)

SPEAKER_07Jade(guest)

SPEAKER_09Dana(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduce themselves

Key MomentMason discusses surviving catastrophic motorcycle accident on 9/11/2024

Key MomentAngelica reveals giving ex-husband house and passive income in divorce

Key MomentAngelica confesses she 'fired the first shot' by telling husband he couldn't sit on couch until dishes were clean

Key MomentMason reveals he's still virgin at almost 30

QuoteBrian declares himself Mason's 'dick escort' and 'vagina virtuoso'

ControversyMolly's extreme trivia failures: doesn't know continents, thinks 5x5=20, never heard of Hitler

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Molly (19, OF/Mormon), Jade (28, holistic health), Dana (50, insurance), Angelica (41, real estate), Mason (29, EMT/virgin).

Mason Motorcycle Accident

Mason's miraculous survival from catastrophic motorcycle accident on 9/11/2024.

No-Shows Exposed

Brian exposes 7 guests who cancelled or no-showed with screenshots.

Angelica Divorce Story

20-year relationship, being breadwinner, collaborative divorce, giving ex house and assets.

Mason Virginity and Breakup

Mason's virginity at 29, breakup with Alexa, Brian vetting future women.

Molly OnlyFans While Mormon

Religious contradiction of doing OnlyFans while being LDS.

Molly Trivia Failures

Molly can't name continents, thinks Italy is city in France, says 5x5=20, doesn't know Hitler.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasif it is low, I'm a price to be won. And I don't want either of those. >> Wait, but hold on. Don't you Wait. When you're dating, you want to put your best foot forward. >> If I'm 18, 19, 20 years old. Yes.

Brian Atlas>> No. Even if you're Hold on. >> Not in. >> No. When you're dating, regardless of age, you want to put your best foot forward. If there is something about you, a characteristic or trait or what

Brian Atlashave you that is appealing to men or is something desirous to men, I I don't see how it be to to your detriment.

Angelica>> I'm being objectified because now I'm a prize to be won. It's a thing. >> Well, hold on. A prize to be Okay, so you tell a man, but I don't understand. So, >> you're objectifying me. How would it be

Brian Atlasobjectifying >> if I tell you oh my body count is two that would not be objectification that would be you possess a positive trait

Brian Atlasthat like okay what if um >> what private person wait hold on what if a guy wants a woman who likes to read books

Brian Atlas>> and you disclose to him that you read books and he's like more attracted to you because you read books are are are you a prize is to be one is he objectifying me.

Angelica>> No, that's not that's not objectifying me because that is not a taboo subject. That is not that is not an that is not a subject of purity. A a badge of honor.

Angelica>> Well, I I don't see why the tab >> men wear that like a badge of honor. That's why they ask >> what >> purity. They wear it like a badge of honor. >> A badge of honor. You know, you have you have this like

Angelica>> be able to say they cracked them. >> I got I got a girl that's, you know, she's 30 and she's only had two bodies. Like, I got a good one. Like, that's a badge of honor for you.

Angelica>> When do you go, oh yeah, my girl likes to read books. Yeah. You don't do that. >> Well, I mean, I was giving sort of a a unique, >> but it's a badge of honor. You're That's why it's being objectified in my

Brian Atlasopinion. I think there's plenty of scenarios, maybe not the book thing, but I also think it I would I would actually like it uh to be honest if a girl read books. Uh, one of the girls, the

Brian AtlasSamantha girl who was supposed to be on the show, uh, she actually apparently at like the age of I think she's in her 23 20 22, she had only read her first book

Brian Atlasin 2024, whereas like but like at 18 or no, she must have been 20. And I'm like, that's kind of sad. Like, you're supposed to read books in school. Like, what the

Brian Atlas[ __ ] But, um, so I actually would find the book thing kind of appealing. But um uh uh so sorry, restate your thing. >> Uh it's taboo because it's private

Angelicainformation. You're not going to go around parading to people that your girl only has two bodies. >> I wouldn't even if you're so proud, you know, hey, we got along really well.

AngelicaWe've both read uh The Tempest by Shakespeare together again. You know, that's something that you can share with other people. >> Well, hold on. The it's not an ego thing.

Brian Atlas>> Internal ego. Absolutely. >> Well, it depends what we mean by ego. But uh first off, I'm I'm not sharing details about my

Angelica>> my girlfriend with my friends like that, >> right? Because it's private information, >> right? So, it wouldn't be a badge of private badge of honor. >> It's your ego. It's your it's stroking

Angelicayour own ego that you have somebody. >> So, wait. It's wrong to desire things. you find positive in a partner. >> That's not wrong to desire that. The

Angelicareasoning of why you ask that is to stroke your ego. >> What? Wait, I don't understand. So, like >> that you have a prize to be won. Someone

Angelicathat's untouched. >> Well, if body counts too, she's >> I mean, except for he he has all the right to do that because he is untouched. >> Someone that's 100 people, it's

Brian Atlas>> they don't have that. What is it? Ain't that the pot calling the kettle black? >> No, no, no, no. So, again, you don't need to possess the trait to desire or want the trait. >> Well, that's a taboo trait. It's a

Angelicacontroversial trait. >> I don't see Hold on. I don't see how it's taboo. >> Because it's it's taboo because there's judgment. You immediately have judgment. Are you going to judge someone because

Angelicathey like books? Are you going to judge someone because they like to swim? Are you gonna judge someone because they like to uh dance? Are you gonna judge

Mason Gregoiresomeone for another trait? >> So, I I I agree with this point here. Um the reason we make that judgment is because there are there are a ton of negative outcomes that come from a woman

Mason Gregoirewho has slept with a lot of guys. >> That's not a trade. It's a lifestyle. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, correlation causation, but >> I don't know. I would argue it could be causation. just correlation does not

Mason Gregoirenegate causation. >> So I would say I mean probably causal factor to them being a a an bad wife is

Mason Gregoirethat she has slept with a ton of guys. Now I'm not saying that every single woman who has slept with a ton of guys is a bad wife cuz I I there is a woman out there I know she's incredible wife

Mason Gregoireand she slept with way too many men. But it's because she has beaten herself up for having done that and she's worked extremely hard to get out from that situation. So, I'm not saying that it

Mason Gregoirecan occur, but the sleeping with a ton of guys has caused it is a cause for very terrible traits. And to eliminate those, hey, I'm just going to find a

Angelicalady who hasn't, even though I have, >> right? So, when you're vetting your person, all of those negative traits will come out without having to ask that.

AngelicaBut I could just make it e easier by asking the hard question immediately >> or very soon. you yes I think you you can you you have earned your right in

Mason Gregoire>> well no even so even say like I had slept with 50 people I want to rip I want to know all these stuff I want to know all this stuff quickly because I don't want to invest my time get that

Mason Gregoireemotional attachment to this person just to find this later on down the road and the hard and the decision to end things is going to be infinitely harder whereas I could have just asked this question

Jadeearly on figured it out and been like this just isn't for me. I'm sorry. >> And I also feel like at the end of the day, if you guys have that big of a disagreeance on body count, like for instance, like you feel like it's that

Mason Gregoireimportant and I don't and like that's your deal breaker. Okay. Well, then you're probably not meant to, you know, >> Exactly. Which is why we need to ask you probably should ask that question. Figure that out pretty quickly.

Mason Gregoire>> Yeah. But even if I did have 50 bodies, it's probably good. Like I mean I I can make the determination, okay, a woman who has as few bodies as possible, hopefully a virgin. Like I know that

Mason Gregoirethey're not going to have that baggage that I know comes with having a bunch of bodies. So that is my preference. That is what I'm going to choose and I'm going to probably sort through all I mean all of the women. I'm going to sort

Mason Gregoirethrough the women that have all those bodies. I'm going to sort them out and I'm going to pick out the ones that do have very low body counts. Look, I think there's nothing wrong if a guy has

Brian Atlas[ __ ] a bunch of chicks and he's like, "You know what? I've seen what's out there." And it happens to be the case that the women with a low body count, I find them more attractive, less likely

Brian Atlasto have an STD, more desirable, etc., etc., etc., nothing wrong. If he wants, he could have slept with 50 women, 100 women. Now, I'm not saying he's going to get her. Maybe she doesn't want to date

Brian Atlashim. I'm not saying the woman should date him. I'm just saying it's fine if he in his determination has said this type of woman is more attractive. Therefore, I want to date her. There's nothing wrong with that.

Brian Atlas>> I married him. >> The the the trumpet >> a ho dog. Yeah. >> Your your husband is a playboy. He was a wild guy. >> He was a horn dog. >> He was a horn dog. >> Oh boy. >> I didn't know it till I married him.

Brian Atlas>> Man though that >> you turned him good. >> Where where's he from? Tennessee. >> He's from Helena, Arkansas. Oh, you got them Arkansas. Boy, I tell you what, that them men from Arkansas, they're

Danaknown for getting some their saw. >> We had been married a couple weeks and I asked him and he he goes, "What's yours?" And I told him, I said, "What's yours?" He goes, "No." >> And I was like, "What do you mean no?"

DanaHe goes, "Not telling you." >> And then he finally did decide to tell me, but he couldn't remember. So he carried around a little pad for a few days putting tally marks on it. And when we got to like I don't even remember but

Danait was just this ridiculous >> was it three figures like a hundred plus? >> It was a lot of hoes that he'd been with in Arkansas. >> And I looked at him and I said stop >> I can't do it. >> We're going to let it go. I've already

Danadone it. We're married. >> Damn. >> To this day it's a joke around the It's It's >> Yeah. >> Bless it. You have stepchildren you haven't even met >> probably. I probably probably so I

Brian Atlasprobably have children somewhere. >> Well, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what, man. Um I'm just saying. Look, >> it it I don't see a problem with a man

Brian Atlaswho's been around the block wanting a little southern virgin woman. Like I I don't see a problem with that. >> I was not a virgin. I have a six-year-old. But >> I'm not talking about Well, I'm not talking about you, but I'm just saying,

Brian Atlaslook, I don't think there's a problem. Ultimately though, the thing is is that men uh men don't want to marry the town bicycle. Let me tell you that much. Uh yeah, us men, we don't want the town

Brian Atlasbicycle. We want a woman of of good virtue and character uh purity. We don't want no town bicycle. I'll tell you what, because uh she'd been written by everybody. >> Brian, why do you and I keep going down

Brian Atlasthis >> line of weird voices together? >> Hold on. What if the town bicycle is a Ferrari? >> I could do like an Italian. I could do like a New Jersey. I could do a New York.

Brian Atlas>> What's one I was thinking about doing? I could do like kind of an upper crusty British accent that I >> You should do it. >> Used to annoy Tiffany with

Brian Atlas>> Tiffany de Get me my loafers. >> Chop chop. Uh, what else do I know? I

Brian Atlascan do southern. I can do hm. What else? I don't know. [ __ ] it. Uh, anyways. Uh, let's see. What else on the questionnaire? What else on the

Brian Atlasquestionnaire? We have from uh Dana. >> Yes, sir. >> Wrong for a man to dump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex.

Brian AtlasAnd you did write depends on why. >> Depends on why. >> Uh, so yes, of course. I mean, uh, so let's rule out some extremes. She's not she doesn't have a terminal illness.

Brian AtlasShe's not ill. She doesn't have health problems. um like severe health problems. >> Uh but um

Brian Atlasoh DPG. Oh my god, this guy's a [ __ ] legend. Been a while. Howdy, Brian. W stream. Cheers. Oh my goodness, guys. I need to see W's in the chat for DPG

Brian Atlasthing. This guy's a [ __ ] legend. Uh any single ladies? Actually, no. None of you are single. Well, you're single, but >> See, I'm I'm trying to be um I'm trying

Brian Atlasto wingman for DPG. I'm trying to get him some some baddies. So, >> DPG, where you live, bro? You're going to North cuz she will be single in a a couple months, right? >> She's planning the the breakup.

Brian Atlas>> Wait, how? Cuz you >> I don't have an age cap, though. >> No, no, he he's like in his 30s. Don't worry about it. No, he's he's like 37. Um, but so, um, >> when are you moving to North Carolina?

Brian Atlas>> December. >> Okay. So, like in eight months. All right. DPG, where you living, DPG? It's the It's the lighting, to be honest. He's 37. Where you live, DPG? Because I'm I got

Jadeyou, bro. I'm hooking it up. Do you like white guys? >> I mean, I don't like I wouldn't say no. So I have a preference of like letting >> He saved me from a bear once.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. So he'll protect He'll protect you. >> He will protect a rough and tough white boy. Like I can't do like a tech bro, you know. >> No, he's rough and tough. Okay. >> He's got guns.

Brian Atlas>> Nice. >> He he was back uh he was uh in high

Brian Atlasschool he won uh county in JV wrestling. >> Yeah. County County.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, and um, he's he's he's got money. He's he's got moola. So, >> DPG, >> big alpha, >> huh? >> Big alpha. >> Big big >> big alpha. >> Big alpha.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Like a big energy. >> I don't like the alpha beta thing, but >> it's just to get to the point. >> He is an alpha male. >> Okay. >> Oh, yeah. Big time alpha male. He's even

Brian Atlasa sigma male. Goodness gracious. And he's >> Apex. >> Apex predator. Apex predator. >> Can Brian do a Yoda impression? DPG already has a girl. Oh, he's got a girl.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. >> Well, if you're I don't know if you're trying to do like an Andrew Tate like multiple wives thing. DPG thing. >> We don't share. >> We don't over here. >> Question for you though.

Brian Atlas>> For your perfect man. >> Mhm. Rich everything like all the traits that you care about maximized personality perfect for you money richest man in the

Brian Atlasworld perfect everything perfect in bed perfect body perfect everything would you share him >> no >> okay all right >> deal breaker

Angelica>> that would be horrible >> I think some I think a good amount of women would share >> a lot of women would like I think a lot of women would share the Newport uh Newport Coast moms. They They go in there, they walk in. Oh, I didn't see nothing. I didn't see nothing.

Brian Atlas>> Yoda. >> A lot of I cannot do it. >> Pasty. I cannot do a Yoda impression. I don't know how to do it. I can't do it. Um, yeah. >> What do I know? I can do the British

Brian Atlasone. The like kind of Italian. I can do uh like a southern uh [ __ ] What else can I do? Uh,

Brian AtlasI'd like to learn how to do a Vietnamese accent. Like a fresh off dangerous one to be going. >> Fresh fresh off the boat Vietnamese female. >> Do it. Go. Go to a nail salon. You need

Brian Atlasto pick it up quick. >> Bro, I need to just go. I want to hire a Vietnamese lady to read the messages so she can do it in the Vietnamese voice. >> The girl that does my I can >> Oh my god. That's That's rough. Oh my

Brian Atlasgosh. >> Oh boy. That's a dangerous road to go down. >> Oh [ __ ] >> Carnal knowledge. Yikes. Bro. Yikes. >> Bro, you're not supposed to eat. By the

Brian Atlasway, George, you are not supposed to eat bears because apparently uh even if you cook it there, they have like I think a parasite or something. >> No, you have to cook it like it's a higher temperature it has to reach before you can eat it.

Mason Gregoire>> Have you had bear Mason? >> Possibly. >> Hey, hunting is fun. I did hear though like you can die from that [ __ ] The >> Oh yeah, you can. If you don't cook it well enough, you can die from it. But it's like it is actually pretty difficult.

Brian Atlas>> Have you had kangaroo? >> I have not had kangaroo. I would try. >> I hear it tastes like kamar. >> Honestly, I would try. >> I hear it tastes good. [ __ ] kangaroos, too. They're kind of dicks. >> Okay. Um, wait. So, hold on. The the question is, though, wrong for a man to

Brian Atlasdump his girlfriend if she regularly turns him down for sex. Uh, how where did we where did we >> It was me. I said it depends. It It

Danadepends on the situation. >> Oh. Uh well, let's not use any extremes. Like, let's just say it's like >> the typical >> Oh, if you don't want to do it, then yeah. I mean, if there's no reason you're just like, "No, not tonight."

Brian AtlasThen I mean, yeah, I get it. You would probably end up getting dumb to bed. >> Well, I think it's okay like in individual instances to just not be in the mood and like that's okay. Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Um, >> but yeah, it's more like if there's a pattern like I don't think okay you've been dating you've been dating a girl for 3 years and she doesn't want to [ __ ] once like

Brian Atlas>> no you shouldn't break up with her over that but like 3 months and she's like turning you down more often than she's having sex with you. >> Pattern recognition something's going on. That's then I'm like

Dana>> I was I think I'm thinking from like the married standpoint like I had some really bad surgery complications and it was a few months I was like you got to get away you got to get away from me. >> Oh well yeah if you're like physically

Brian Atlaslike incapable or you're in pain or you're recovering that's different. That's different. But we're talking like she's ablebodied and she's just like

Brian Atlasthere's maybe a mismatch in desire or a mismatch in um uh what's the not desire libido. So >> then you got to cut that loose cuz that

Brian Atlasdoesn't work. Yeah. >> Yeah. Um let's see. We have

Jadeuh dating is Jade. you uh agree with the following statement. Dating is harder for women. Why is that? >> Well, just speaking from my experience

Jadeof like here to be honest because like Southern California compared to like like where I'm moving to where a lot of like some of my values of what like a relationship and marriage is is a

Jadelittle more aligned to over there because of those moral values. where where I'm at in SoCal, it's just kind of like everybody's just trying to [ __ ] everybody energy and that just like doesn't so it's harder for me to find

Jadesomeone cuz nobody wants to just be with one person and be loyal to that person >> like they want that polyamorous or just that playboy lifestyle. >> So that's what I would say is like just

Jadeif your environment doesn't match your values, it's harder. >> Okay. Um >> I also think that there's a lot of really good women

Brian Atlasout there versus like at least for my demographic than like some of the men. >> There's a lot of good women. >> More good women than there are good men.

Jade>> Like I think the way that men are becoming, which is like that passenger prince type of vibe is kind of like what a lot of women are running into now. And to me, like that's why it's harder because most women are looking for a man and that's just not really what's out

Angelicathere. >> But like >> right now, >> so men are not being men. Yes. >> Are women being women? >> No. >> No. A lot of women are being men. Like they're putting their >> Well, a lot of women are being children. >> Mhm.

Brian Atlas>> Tantrum tantruming little baby Oh, >> [ __ ] >> Go off, queen. >> Yes. >> Well, I I think there's a degree of mutual inspiration. So, I don't want to place full blame on women. I don't want

Brian Atlasto place full blame on men. Well, certainly not that, but but I do think this might fall a bit more on women. I'm not saying it's fully

Brian Atlaswomen. I think that there's a lack like for men to be men, there has to be what are the incentives? And it seems like there's not a lot of incentive

Brian Atlasuh for men. And look, you can say the same for women, but there there's a lacking of inspiration. So, like what

Brian Atlaswould inspire a man to be a man? And it's like, okay, I'm gonna be this beacon of traditional values and I'm going to be a beacon, a paragon. I'm

Brian Atlasgoing to I'm going to be a provider and I'm going to be a protector and I'm going to be the knight in shining armor. I'm going to be the embodiment of virtue. I'm going to be the embodiment of traditional gender roles. And then

Brian Atlasthey get onto the dating marketplace and they see promiscuous women blasted in tattoos, no offense, uh, drug drug addicts and

Brian Atlas[ __ ] alcoholics and all this [ __ ] And it's like the the women aren't holding up their end of the deal. I feel like um they're

Brian Atlasthey're ran through and it's like why should I be a man? Like why should I be a man to this woman when like I don't know why should I for

Brian Atlasexample like a lot of women have an expectation for men to protect why should I protect why should I be willing and also for question four husband husband should be willing to die

Brian Atlasprotecting you uh husband for all of you you circled that right and you're not wrong for circling that but I think to myself like if I got to die the woman should at least be a virgin.

Brian Atlas>> Oh my. >> Yeah. Like I think it's a bigger ask that for for me to die or potentially die or have the willingness to die for

Jadeyou than for me to ask women or for my woman or a woman to be a virgin. >> I don't think it's a big ask in the sense of I would be willing to die for my partner, for my husband. Like if that

Brian Atlasif I had to take a bullet for my man, like I'm going to take a bullet for my man same way I would for my child. >> Not not all women think that. But I I I I guess that adds some validity. However, I would say that in a

Jadehypothetical scenario where only one of you dies, who should die? >> Well, then that's like an impossible choice because I would never choose my husband to die over >> My husband wouldn't let me. >> He wouldn't.

Brian Atlas>> He wouldn't let you. >> No, he wouldn't let me be the one. Who do you think Who do you think should be the one willing to die if one of you in a hypothetical has to die?

Angelica>> I can't answer that to be honest. >> Okay. What do you think? >> I like someone comes into our house and enters our bedroom and >> No, it doesn't even have to be. So,

Brian Atlasokay, the hypothetical is simply one of you has to die. It could be >> one of you has to die or I'm going to kill one of your children. Like >> no, it's just supernatural. So like the

Brian Atlasthe grim reaper appears and is like you guys can talk amongst each other. Uh you have to pick I'm taking one of your lives.

Dana>> All of us or none? >> No. My we we would I would be like I'll this is how it would go. Be like I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. And then finally he would just push me out of the way and do it. Like I know our dynamic. It would be both of us like I'm

Danagoing to do it. You know what I mean? And then finally he'd be like, "No, it would be a sit down." And he would do it. He He >> Okay. But would you want him? >> I wouldn't want him to. No, I would try to do it, but >> You would try to do it. Okay.

Angelica>> I would, but he wouldn't let me. >> How I read it is like if we're confronted on the street, like I do believe that a man should walk on the sidewalk side of the street for protection,

Brian Atlas>> all of that. So if we're getting mugged, >> Yeah. >> Yes. I do expect him to protect me. >> Okay. But so what do you think? >> I I Can you repeat the question?

Brian Atlas>> Uh so okay, in a hypothetical scenario where the man or the woman has to die, which one do you think should take the death?

Brian Atlas>> Um for me personally, I would do it. >> You would do it. >> I would do it. >> Okay. How about this? Let me change the scenario a little bit. You are on a

Brian Atlasboat. Mhm. >> And you see a boat in the distance. Now, you're not able to intervene because the choppy seas or whatever. You're on a boat.

Brian AtlasYou see a husband and a wife on that boat. They don't have children. There's one life preserver on their sinking boat. There's no loopholes, by

Brian Atlasthe way. They can't hang on to each other. They can't swim. The outcome is predecided. Only one of them can get the life preserver. The other one will

Brian Atlasdefinitively die. In that circumstance, they can they can amongst each other make a decision as to who gets the life preserver. Which person would you more harshly

Brian Atlasjudge for getting the life preserver? So you see the man uh opting to wanting to survive and taking the life preserver. the woman dies or the woman uh they came

Brian Atlasto determination and the woman keeps the life preserver, the man dies. Do you judge the woman more harshly or do you judge the man more harshly? >> The man would get judged more harshly.

Angelica>> Yes, I agree with that. And when I'm viewing it from a different perspective, uh the women should live because they can go on and carry life and do more.

Jade>> Whoa. Okay, hold on. Before I respond, I'll get the other answers. Like in that circumstance, yes, I believe like a man would be judged harsher. So >> a man would be judged harsher.

Brian Atlas>> Well, would you would you judge harsher? >> Would not? Cuz like that's just a decision I could never >> Okay. But you do acknowledge society would judge the man harsher. But do you

Mollyjudge harsher the man or the woman? >> I if I if it had nothing to do with me and it was just like if I had to pick one, just random people. >> No, you you don't pick who dies. They

Brian Atlasyou there's two scenarios. Either the man is choosing to survive or the woman's choosing to survive. >> The man should be the one to give it the >> to give his life. >> Yes.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Uh now you said do you think that men and women don't have equal inherent or moral value? >> Moral value when it comes to which?

Brian AtlasWell, you if I recall, you said that uh that the the woman should get the life preserver because she can go on to have children and do more. Is that's what you

Brian Atlassaid? >> Like basically procreate. She can make society bigger. >> Men can men's genetic material is necessary and needed to have children. >> Yes. But one man can seed an 500

Angelicafemales. >> Okay. But so >> we need less men than we do women to carry the children. It's it takes so

Brian Atlasmany months like that's a m macrolevel analysis here. Um you would acknow I I

Brian Atlasdon't even understand the argument to be honest but um so so the the woman could have kids so she's more valuable

Brian Atlas>> in that instance. Yes. Why would she be more valuable if men and women, if you have one man and one woman, do they have same value or does the woman have more value?

Angelica>> Depends the age and what they have. >> They're both 25, no kids. >> Then she would probably have more value because she can go and uh find another man who could then she could have

Angelicachildren with. >> Okay. But that man can find a woman. So, okay, she >> that woman is already on the island and safe. She's gonna go find somebody else. She's already procreating. >> He doesn't She doesn't need him.

Angelica>> Wait, what? >> The woman that's already safe. If you save the man, if you save the man, the woman, you're saying that she he can go find someone and procreate with her. But that woman was never in danger.

Angelica>> Oh [ __ ] >> Ah, >> sorry. Repeat that. >> Sorry. You're saying that she can uh that the man if he survives he can go

Angelicaand find a woman and procreate with her. But that woman was never in danger. >> So why that woman uh this this is this is the lake and this is where everybody

Danaelse is in civilization. >> She's talking about when you said you're watching the boat go down. You're the one woman. Which one should she's she's saying >> which one are you judging more harshly?

AngelicaRight. I'm judging the man more harshly. Why? They're 25. >> That's so incoherent. I don't know what you're trying to say. >> Okay. They're both 25 and they're on the boat,

Angelicaright? >> Okay. Your claim is the woman has more value. I'm asking >> at 25. At 25, she has more value because she can go back into society and procreate and make children.

Angelica>> 25-year-old men can't go back to society and procreate and have children. >> Yes, he can. But >> so what's your argument? That makes no sense. >> The the argument is that he would only go back into society to find a woman

Angelicathat was never in danger in the first place. So she was already going to procreate with other men in society. She didn't need that man on the boat. >> What

Dana>> she's literally when you were first talking and you told her, >> "Pretend you're watching the water and you see a boat out there and there's two people on She's talking about the woman that's watching this happen. Is that

Danacorrect? Yes. >> Okay. She she took the scenario you gave her. >> What? >> That's what she's talking about. When you said you're you're watching the boat go down and there's a man and a woman

Danaand only one will survive when you were asking her which one should drown. She's taken when you said that >> into effect. But that's not part of it. >> What? >> Yeah. >> That's still incoherent. >> Yeah. It's not part of it. It's just

Angelicawhen you were trying to explain it. >> You're talking about the viewer. >> Yes. Yes. What? That wouldn't change anything. >> You're making zero sense. >> Okay, let let me tell you. There's men

Brian Atlasand women on this boat. >> There are two women and two men in society. >> Where the [ __ ] did I ever include that in the hypothetical?

Angelica>> Because the woman you're saying the woman has, you're asking me does the woman have more value? And I said in that scenario, yes, she does. >> What scenario? Okay. Then >> when did I grant that there's Wait, what? Hold on.

Angelica>> You told me there were 25. You told me there were 25. That's why I said it depends. >> Their age is 25. >> Yes. >> Why would that >> That's why she's more valuable at that

Brian Atlasage because she's of childbearing age. >> The man can is also fertile at 25. >> But the woman

Angelicais the one that can actually make the baby with somebody else. Okay. Same with the man, >> but the man isn't carrying the child. He's not the vessel, but >> he still makes it.

Brian Atlas>> Hold on. But there's other Okay. There's other men who can give her seed and there's other women who are the vessel. >> Yeah. >> But if you get rid of a let's say there's only two people, two women left in your society that you're going back.

Brian AtlasOkay. >> But they was never granted in the hypothetical that this is Wait, hold on. So wait, wait, wait. That doesn't even wait. This even using your backwards framework. So, okay, let's say there's

Brian Atlasonly four people alive. Or wait, hold on. Wait, wait, wait. There's four people alive. There's two men and two women. >> This is getting so complicated. >> Okay, so then why why are men drafted

Angelicainto the army? >> You're all over the place. Hold on. Wait. >> That's that's the same logic that I'm that I'm stating. men are drafted into

Angelicathe army because society will go on more uh successfully if you protect the women and the children.

Brian Atlas>> Uh this works in like small tribal >> conflict. Uh it it it really doesn't map unless you're like having massive wars.

Brian AtlasWell, no. The reason men are just better soldiers absent reproduction. >> Men are better soldiers. Men are physically stronger than women. Men are physically superior to women. >> Yes.

Mason Gregoire>> That's that's why men are I mean, >> if we're going to fight a war against like some other country, I'm going to want to send my men because I know they're going to send their men. I'm going to send my best versus their best. >> I'm not going to send ladies. That's why

Brian Atlaswe draft men. >> There there is a component when it comes to the like keeping women in the interior and protected. there is a like

Brian Atlashistorical component when it comes to warfare. It it is true that when it comes to like repopulating uh you know if you get decimated in a

Brian Atlaswar uh and like repopulating your your population that yeah like in that sense

Brian Atlasum like a given woman has more value in that sense but I'm talking about moral value inherent value in a in a society like there's billions of people

Brian Atlascurrently alive so in this hypothetical scenario IO the man goes back to society there's plenty of women he can impregnate the woman goes back to society there's plenty of men who can

Angelicaimpregnate her men and women have inherent equal value in uh equal moral value >> okay so where my mind went was if I had to pick one cuz I have to pick one I

Angelicahave to pick one >> that's that's why it matters by age to me I have to pick one

Brian Atlas>> okay So, if the woman is 50 and she can no longer have children, you pick the man. >> They're both 50. >> Uh, >> so the woman >> No. >> Wait, hold on. Women are basically infertile at 50. >> Yes, I know. That's what I'm saying. I'm

Brian Atlasnot >> The man can still bust nuts. Yes. >> And get women pregnant at 50. Okay, great. So, after >> at that point, there would be no judgment. There would be no judgment. >> Wait, wait, wait. No, no, hold on.

Brian AtlasYou're going to actually, so your logic here, you're actually going to have to say the moment any woman who's either infertile or doesn't have the capacity to have children or she's above a

Brian Atlascertain age, she has to die. That would be the that would be the entailment of your position. She has to die. So any woman basically, you know, when she has no ability,

Brian Atlas>> she doesn't. They have equal value. >> Wait, equal value? But hold on. Your whole argument is the ability to reproduce. A man can reproduce into his 50s, 60s and 70s. So therefore, men like beyond the age of like 45 or I mean

Brian Atlaswomen >> but they don't they still don't need his seed. There's plenty in society. >> But then this this would have to equally apply to the other women. Uh other women

Brian Atlashave eggs. So the logic is flawed. Other women have eggs. If she dies, I can go and impregnate other women with my seed.

AngelicaIf your seed is that desirable, then yes, I agree. But >> it has nothing to do with >> there's plenty of other men willing to spread their seed already.

Brian Atlas>> So, okay, a given woman has opportunities for getting pregnant. A man will have future opportunities to get women pregnant. If there are

Angelica>> you're >> if there if there are a hundred women to one man that one man those 100 women don't need 100 men they only need one. >> I totally agree. >> So that's why >> why does it why does that have to do

Angelicawith anything? >> It has to do with is that male really that critical in that scenario? No, his he's not that adding that one more man from the boat isn't adding any more value because that one person could do

Brian Atlasall of it, >> right? There's no there's no dispute about the biological reality that uh eggs are expensive and sperm is cheap. That there's no dispute there. However,

Brian Atlasuh there it wasn't granted in in the hypothetical that this is some like reproduction. >> I had I had to get one value. No, but it wasn't granted in the hypothetical that

Brian Atlasit was some sort of like reproduction apocalypse where it's like this this is the woman who is going to be responsible for for like propagating uh the

Brian Atlaspopulation in society. Correct. It's >> but I had to give it a reason. What would my reason be? >> But it's >> I had to give it a reason. who

Brian Atlas>> in the the hypothetical exists in the uh in the current state of affairs of the world which is there's like 4 billion other women in the world. There's 4

Brian Atlasbillion other men in the world. The man can go and [ __ ] a woman and get her pregnant. The woman can go and get [ __ ] and get pregnant. >> I had to give I had to give it a reason because I don't >> I I don't have a choice. I have to pick

Brian Atlassomething. >> All right. That's crazy. Oh [ __ ] Oh my god. I'm such a scumbag. I was I was so bamboozled by your thing that I missed this

SPEAKER_00>> six minutes to indie donated $1,000. >> Mason, so glad you made it, brother. >> Brian, it's homogeneity. The word from before. >> Homogeneity. Homogeneity.

Brian Atlas>> That's it. >> You're such a homo. Um homogeneity. >> Homogeneity. Yo, Timi Indie, thank you, man. You're [ __ ] legend. Uh, Tiffany, dear, get me a champagne bottle. Chop

Brian Atlaschop. Make it quick. Dear, quick, quick. Yes. Good job. >> Then get me my loafers. Uh, Indie, sorry, I missed the uh that was like

Brian Atlassix. It came in six minutes ago. Sorry, I was so zoned in. I was so zoned in. So, >> uh, can you give me uh, do you Wait, how old are you? Sorry. Uh, Champagne. Champagne. Champagne.

Brian Atlas>> Yes, please. >> Champagne. >> I'll take it. >> All right, I'll take it. >> I'll take it. >> Uh, two chains. Five cups. F. Wait. One, two, three, four. Four cups. Four cups.

Brian AtlasYeah. Thank you very much. Let me open. See if I can open this. Uh, thank you, Tiffany.

Brian AtlasTiffany, pull up that super chat so Mollington can read it for us. Go ahead. Pull it up for Mollington

Molly>> for for the Rachel comeback tour. Men don't bail because a woman gains 200 lb in a long relationship, but women will

Mollybail if he steps out because she gains 200 lb. Make it make sense. And if Rachel ever becomes single, I know a guy, >> bro. >> Oh my god.

Brian Atlas>> Rachel, look. Rachel, I think she's in the chat, by the way. Uh, Rachel has a wonderful husband. That's crazy that you [ __ ] say that, right?

Brian Atlas>> Wild. And I'm fairly certain Rachel would bury herself with with her husband. >> I You know what? I not to be morbid here, you know? I that that thing we were talking about earlier where I was like if a woman breaks up with me, I

Brian Atlaswant her like >> on the on the like if I take a Mississippi boat ride, I want her on the cliff crying every evening waiting for me, hoping for me. I feel like that's what Rachel would do.

Brian Atlas>> I don't know if Rachel like starts dating again. Like I don't think she remarries. I think she's just like Rachel, chime in. Um yeah, let us know. >> Yeah, let us know. I think Rachel just like I don't know if she becomes a nun

Brian Atlasor something like that. I don't think she um I I I don't think that she she like starts dating or remarries. Like I just think she's got a picture. >> I feel like she does what the the Steve

Mason GregoireIrwin's wife has done. It's like nothing. I met my one true love. That's it. I'm done. >> Rachel, confirm or deny? >> Yeah, confirm or deny. >> Yes, indeed. >> Indeed, Rachel. Indeed. >> Indeed, Rachel. Oh, no. I don't know if

Brian AtlasI'm going to open be able to open this one. I do have a bodybuilder next to me, though. >> This is true. >> Wait, hold on. You got this, Brian. I believe in you. >> And do it. >> It's [ __ ] slippery, boys. >> I got I got this, boys. >> Goodness gracious.

Brian Atlas>> Feel like this. >> Oh, he's got it. He's got it. >> Oh, no. It's letting It's not >> Hello. >> There we go. >> A little a little underwhelming the pot there on that. We still got a pot. Hey, >> yo. Hey, Indie. Thank you very much,

Brian Atlasman. Appreciate it. All right, let me pour some liquor here for the fine folk. >> The fine fine folk. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Help me with the >> I got you. >> Help me with the cups. >> Yeah. What are you doing? >> What are you What are you doing, Mason?

Brian AtlasWhat are you doing? >> All right, pass it down. Pass it down. >> All right, there we go. Bubbly. >> Hey, [ __ ] Indie. Thank you, man. I Hey, Indie. I want to thank you, dude. >> You're a genius. >> Thanks, Indie.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, bro, today was a tough day for me. Today was a rough day. I need some champagne. I need this. >> I Bro, today was rough. Today was really stressed out. >> I was a stressed out indie. So, I

Brian Atlasappreciate your uh patronage, man. And uh >> booze me up. >> No, there's just one. >> Little more for Mason there. Okay. All right. Uh cheers. Saloo to Indie.

Brian Atlas>> Sal. >> Uh I do say >> bingo.

Brian Atlas>> Very nice. >> Andrew has ruined me for all other men. Nobody could ever compete >> with Andrew's ghost. Exactly. See? >> Exactly. Makes sense. >> Yeah. I was saying earlier that like I I

Brian Atlaswould ideally want, you know, if I've been dating a girl for 3 months that she should just be on the cliff side crying every

Brian Atlasevening waiting for me to return from my voyage to the new world. She should be waiting. She shouldn't be dealing with some other dude like. So I I feel like Rachel

Brian Atlas>> I don't know. I think she's she's just loyal to Andrew >> in perpetuity. In perpetuity. Good word. >> In perpetuity. That's a good one. We got to bring that back. >> Yes.

Mason Gregoire>> Uh, okay. We have here. Mason, can you read this one for us? >> I'll read it. >> J O D. >> Okay. Uh, you serious panel? Women literally want men to be their beat

Mason Gregoire>> [ __ ] I guess >> I guess I'm sure. And don't want back back talk. We get called sassy and women don't respect us. They want us to obey them and let them do as they please. This is true. This is true. That is the typical

Brian Atlas>> thing I run into. >> Yeah, man. Honestly though, on that note, I think that the relationship works best when the woman is more into you than you're into the woman. >> I could say that. >> I think I think that's the best dynamic.

Dana>> I kind of agree. >> You know what I mean? >> I agree with that. This is weird to me because I don't have this kind of relationship with my husband. Like it's >> you're both just into each other. >> Yeah. We just we obsessed.

Dana>> Okay. Yeah. We're not saying like he's not into you. It's like, hey, I'm going to be very very into this lady, but I want this lady to be more very very into me. >> We've been together a long time. I I

Mason Gregoirethink it takes that might be okay like at the beginning, but when you've been together as long as we have, >> it's different. >> Yeah. No, I I could agree with that. Like when I look at my my mom and dad, like I can't say like there's no way I

Brian Atlascould ever rate who likes more. >> Right. Right. >> Um wait, I had a thought on something. [ __ ]

Brian Atlas>> [ __ ] Totally forgot. Uh it's like the the admirer or the admired? Admirer or the admired?

Brian AtlasWhich one is better? Because the admirer feels like they're getting like they're getting more whereas the admired.

DanaYou're just kind of like she's there. Great. I don't know. I don't know. Um >> you have to make a conscious effort, I think, every day to choose your person >> and to be on both sides of that

Brian Atlastruthfully. >> Wait, really quick. Going back to our little dispute here over the sinking boat or whatever. Uh, it's below the threshold, but this actually brought a good thing. One man can impregnate 100

Brian Atlaswomen, but one woman can't have 100 children. Now, what about this, though? Who's more valuable in Wait, hold on. Let me think about

Brian Atlasthis. Who is more valuable? Who would be more productive or valuable? Uh, there's the sinking boat. Sinking boat. And this is an island civilization, and it's the only civilization.

Brian Atlas>> There's a sinking boat. Okay. >> Uh, and well, who would be who would be No, you know what? [ __ ] it. There's not a sinking boat. There's an island civilization, and on that island there's

Brian Atlasone man versus a hundred women or you have 100 men with one woman.

Brian Atlas>> Oh my god. No. you would want to have. >> So those are two separate uh two separate hypotheticals. I would argue >> that

Brian Atlasthat one man is more valuable than that one woman. >> Yeah. >> In that circumstance. >> Oh yeah, >> agreed. >> Because that one woman she can only get pregnant like she can't get the dudes

Brian Atlaspregnant >> but she can die from a hundred men being after her all this. So, I don't know if we're going to take that. If you're going to go down that road, I think we would have to say that you you have a

Brian Atlassituation 100 women, one men, one woman, 100 men. That one man is more valuable >> comparatively than the one woman. This

Mason Gregoireis a really [ __ ] scenario. >> I just made up the man. I could see the man. >> Technically speaking, it's well, it's is more valuable to have more women.

Brian AtlasIt's a well the in this in this scenario >> the other scenario that's a more optimal scenario I agree because a hundred women can get pregnant only one it's so your your society is going to be more

Angelicaflourishing >> but but uh that that man's >> okay I don't know whatever >> all the children it was a really >> I know you want an insensuous society so

Brian Atlasyou need more >> variety >> at that point >> true fair True. I would do my duties if I >> I'm sure they would have to hold a gun

Angelicato your head to get you to >> It would be a lot of suffering in that >> be so terrible. >> It would be so terrible. Awful. >> How would you make it? >> How could I ever survive? >> I think they do that with cattle with like cows and bulls.

Brian Atlas>> Oh [ __ ] You put one bull in a >> Yeah. They get all the Yeah. >> Yo, Indie. But Indie Indie, I don't know if he's like watching from like 3 hours back. When did when were we talking about homogeneous? That was a long time ago >> at the beginning. I think he just

Brian Atlasreferenced it. >> Yeah, he just referenced it. >> What a [ __ ] legend. And by the way, DPG thing just dipped after I just gave him all those compliments and I was trying to get him set up or whatever. I was trying to get him like a lady friend

Brian Atlasor whatever. Maybe he's watching with his lady friend and the lady friend's like, >> "Yeah, it's over, bro. You're never watching this [ __ ] again." He's trying to I didn't know. But to be to in my defense,

Brian Atlas>> I did not know that >> he had he had a lady Yeah, the lady friend. All right. Uh, okay. So, dating harder for Okay, whatever. Um, let's see if there's anything else there.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, you think women put in more effort when it comes to dating, Angelica? Why is that?

Angelica>> I can speak for myself and my friends, uh, women, we

Angelicahair, makeup, dress, shoes, you know. >> Mhm. shower, shave all the things, you know, it's

Angelica>> it's a lot of work. You know, we're we're getting ready for like two hours just cleaning ourselves. >> But men, they don't care. You could show up in a paper bag and they'd be like, "Sup,

Brian Atlasthey don't care." >> I mean, I think a woman could do like the equivalent of men's prep. So, like >> take a shower, >> you know, maybe just do a bit of stuff to your hair like so it's not a total mess. Put on your clothes

Brian Atlasand men would be fine with it. Most also is it women wear makeup for men or they do it for themselves? Pick a lane >> or themselves. >> Um,

Angelica>> so if they're going to do it for themselves, you are back. You're not. I feel better when I have I don't wear a lot of makeup to begin with, but fair enough. I do >> feel more put together and I don't have a lot.

Mason Gregoire>> Do you wear makeup for for your man or do you wear makeup for yourself? >> I like to get up and do bare minimum tinted moisturizer. >> Well, so yeah. Okay. That's not

Mason Gregoirenecessarily the question I'm asking. Like, are you doing your makeup because you like it or are you doing your makeup so it appeases the man? I like it. So, I feel put together. >> Okay. So, it's for you.

Mason Gregoire>> Yes. >> Okay. So, you're not doing it. So, it's not effort you're putting into the relationship. It's effort you're putting into yourself. You would be putting into yourself regardless. >> Correct. But I would I put on more

Angelicaeffort like to do a little bit more. >> If I'm going on a date, I would >> So, it's a little more effort. >> Yes. Day it's 5 minutes. Uh fair enough. On a date, I'm probably spending 20

Mason Gregoireminutes. >> Okay. Okay. Uh, yeah. So, I mean, do do you not think like I think men put in they're are obviously not putting makeup on, but I would say

Mason Gregoirethey probably put more effort in. It's just behind the scenes effort that you don't get to see. So, like the only reason a man's going to be able to date you is he makes more than you. So, he's going to have to have a job. He's going

Mason Gregoireto have a job that he's been pouring a lot of work into for so many years. The all the work that you haven't been able to see. and like uh and that's just pretty much any any woman that sits down

Mason Gregoireat this table. I always say he has to be making at least what I make or more. So, he's had that behind the scenes work. He's also probably I'm going to guess you guys probably uh with like a fit man

Mason Gregoiremore than an unfit man. So, you're going to want a guy who spends hours and hours in the gym. I mean, I love the gym. So, regardless of if I'm have a woman or not, I'm going to go to the gym. But I've spent I've poured 15 years of my

Mason Gregoirelife, blood, sweat, and tears in the gym. Um, there's that. There's uh he like he has to have had some kind of experience that he he can demonstrate

Mason Gregoirethat he's a mature man who knows his way around a room that uh he like comes off to people like he is authoritative, he is a provider, a protector. uh he has

Mason Gregoireall of those traits um that take a lot of extra work to to uh obtain. Traits that

Mason GregoireI don't know if uh women tend to have to put that same amount of effort into. I I think having been in a marriage

Angelicawhere I plan the dates was that was easier than the actual getting ready part for me. >> Mhm. because it's a reservation, you know, and

Mason Gregoire>> Yeah. Well, I'm not saying like uh well, I mean, there is the I mean, generally speaking nowadays, I mean, I'm not speaking to your like the situation you were in, >> but men typically have to do all the

Mason Gregoirethings I just listed, plus they have to go out of their way to like ask you on the date, which I think is good. I think it it should be a man who does that. So, he needs to put that effort in, but it

Mason Gregoirehas to risk getting rejected. He also has to plan the date, which I think he should, but he has to plan the date. Uh, he also has to pay for the date. Um, uh, eventually, I mean, then he continually

Mason Gregoirehave to pay for this relationship. I mean, obviously, sometimes maybe you'll throw something in, but generally speaking, he'll have to pay for all that stuff, and eventually he's going to be the one who has to buy the ring, get down on the knee. It seems like he's

Mason Gregoirehaving to put all of this effort in, and all you have to do is kind of just sit there and have makeup on, >> look pretty. >> Yeah. I'm not saying that's all you do, but in the G dating scheme, it seems

Angelicalike that's all you have to do. >> We also have to I mean, I haven't date in a long time. I think I went on >> obviously

Angelica>> four dates before I found the man I'm with today. And I was appalled, you know, by what I saw. >> Yeah.

AngelicaUm, but I just think yes, I guess men do, uh, I guess from a financial standpoint,

Mason Gregoirethey have to pay for a lot of dates to then find the one. >> Mhm. >> Um, >> yeah. >> But I don't think, you know, >> and it's not just like paying for the dates. I also think they put the reputation on the line. Like, I'm going

Mason Gregoireto go ask this hot chick if she wants to go get go on a date with me. And if we're in public, like she can absolutely eviscerate me in front of like a bunch of people. I've seen too many videos of that happening. I mean, I'm sure like

Mason Gregoirenot just in video format, but I'm sure that happens way too too often. Like I know guys who walk up to girls at the gym that they're into. Like it could ruin their ability to go to that gym because if that girl goes to the gym all

Mason Gregoirethe time, well, I can't go there anymore because goodness gracious uh compar like everyone at the gym is going to have seen me get rejected by this girl. she's going to rip into me. Like all this

Mason Gregoiredrama could be brought up. I don't know if I really want to do that. So, it's like there's a lot of there's a a great like social as well as financial cost. >> Yes. >> Upon men.

Mason Gregoire>> Um that I mean in the social cost not generally found upon women. >> Um I think the question was it's harder. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like that would be harder. >> It's harder. Um

Angelica>> women don't get rejected really. Um, >> and if they do, it's very gently. >> Yes, it was. I I I never approached a man, but I did give the eyes like, "It's okay to come talk to me." I didn't know

Angelicahe was married, but he was. >> I didn't see the ring. I I just His hands were down here. >> Uh, but he's like, "I I saw you. I didn't make eye contact with you because I unfortunately I'm married, but trust me, I I did see you."

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Yeah. Fair enough. Fair enough. >> Well, I maybe we can make a determination like this. We could, you know, go back and forth. Women have these struggles. Men have these struggles.

Brian AtlasI think that men would be willing, and this might be the easiest way to settle this, I think men

Brian Atlaswould very happily switch in terms of the the dynamics when it comes to dating

Brian Atlasand relationships. I think men would very happily switch uh the dynamic. So women pursue, women pursue, women pursue. We're p we're more passive.

Brian AtlasWomen come to us. We pick amongst the women who uh not not that there's anything that would even prevent us from shooting our shot in the same as is the case for women. But although women

Brian Atlasoverwhelmingly don't do that, I I think men would be more willing to change roles, not change sex to be clear. Men stay men, women stay women. But I do

Brian Atlasthink men would be way more open to uh from a dating perspective, swap roles. >> It would make things easier honestly.

Brian Atlas>> And when I say swap roles, the complication though with this scenario is what role specifically? Like are we talking okay are women masculine and are

Brian Atlasmen feminine? I don't think I'm talking about that. I'm talking about like okay uh women approach men But I think >> like that dynamic swapped

Brian Atlasum and maybe the entailments of that might change. Okay. Well, in the way that men will pursue women purely for sex and women get used for sex. Well, sometimes men get used for sex in the swapped scenario. It's

Brian Atlas>> real. >> I think men take that trade. I don't know if women take the trade. Like I don't think I don't know if women take the trade of you guys have to shoot the shot. You guys have to pay for dates. You guys have to take all the initiative.

Jade>> Excuse me. You have to move things forward physically, sexually, etc. You got to make all those first moves. I don't think women do that trade. >> No, we're not. Cuz I will say like men definitely have more pressure when it

Jadecomes to like the dating scene cuz like because it's I think back like cuz I kind of operate off like courtship, right? you know, and it is like the man has to go, you know, talk to the family. They have to go pursue this person. They have to plan the dates. And I think

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