She DISRESPECTED Him?! Based VlRGlN Mason & Brian Atlas vs. Women HEATED DEBATE! | Dating Talk 290
Date: 2026-04-13
Duration: 9h 01m
Identified Speakers
SPEAKER_01Angelica(guest)
SPEAKER_02Mason Gregoire(guest)
SPEAKER_04Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_06Molly(guest)
SPEAKER_07Jade(guest)
SPEAKER_09Dana(guest)
Key Moments
00:01:40
IntroAll guests introduce themselves
00:05:08
Key MomentMason discusses surviving catastrophic motorcycle accident on 9/11/2024
01:00:00
Key MomentAngelica reveals giving ex-husband house and passive income in divorce
01:36:40
Key MomentAngelica confesses she 'fired the first shot' by telling husband he couldn't sit on couch until dishes were clean
02:20:00
Key MomentMason reveals he's still virgin at almost 30
02:31:40
QuoteBrian declares himself Mason's 'dick escort' and 'vagina virtuoso'
08:15:00
ControversyMolly's extreme trivia failures: doesn't know continents, thinks 5x5=20, never heard of Hitler
Topics Discussed
00:01:40
Guest Introductions
Molly (19, OF/Mormon), Jade (28, holistic health), Dana (50, insurance), Angelica (41, real estate), Mason (29, EMT/virgin).
00:05:08
Mason Motorcycle Accident
Mason's miraculous survival from catastrophic motorcycle accident on 9/11/2024.
00:10:10
No-Shows Exposed
Brian exposes 7 guests who cancelled or no-showed with screenshots.
01:00:00
Angelica Divorce Story
20-year relationship, being breadwinner, collaborative divorce, giving ex house and assets.
02:20:00
Mason Virginity and Breakup
Mason's virginity at 29, breakup with Alexa, Brian vetting future women.
02:41:40
Molly OnlyFans While Mormon
Religious contradiction of doing OnlyFans while being LDS.
08:15:00
Molly Trivia Failures
Molly can't name continents, thinks Italy is city in France, says 5x5=20, doesn't know Hitler.
Transcript
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02:52:47
Jade>> by culture. >> No, like by by Yeah. Like I'm wondering like if the a lot of cultures like for instance Polynesians tattoos is like a right of passage like you will get tattoos very young like women and men
02:53:00
Mason Gregoirelike they mean certain things like >> Yeah. But like >> but I'm wondering if they did this in in America. I'm wondering if they took these statistics in America. It's probably the US. That's what I'm guessing. >> That's what I'm saying. That's >> Yeah, but like even if it was like
02:53:12
Brian Atlas>> look at a whole It's very different. >> Even if it was like Polynesian American or it was like world statistics, I don't think that um
02:53:23
Jade>> like Polynesian Polynesian and black cultures. Tattooing is a part of like >> tattooing is part of black culture. >> Yeah. If you go to Yeah. If you look >> Well, tattoos are part of all not tattooing but like you know they have
02:53:35
Brian Atlaslike scarring and things like that. That was part of like African. I'm half black. Well, I mean I would say >> well I mean I lived in North Africa for 4 years. So I >> I mean I would say that tattooing if
02:53:46
Brian Atlaswe're doing a comparison between like black Americans and white Americans it being part of the culture I would say is pretty >> well I corrected myself on like the black part cuz that was more like
02:53:58
Brian Atlasscarring and things In any case though, women are getting women are getting more tattoos than men >> for sure. >> And L. >> It's a pretty big L. >> No offense. >> That's actually a pretty
02:54:12
Brian Atlas>> No offense. Hey, look. >> I regret them. >> What's that? >> You You regret them, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, I mean, um I don't know. Uh I don't know. I brought You have a tattoo, too. Sean. >> Yes.
02:54:25
Brian Atlas>> Is that your ex? >> My brother? No, this is my brother who just passed. Oh, your brother passed, too. [ __ ] >> Your brother and your ex? That's Damn, that's crazy. >> Well, sorry to hear that. >> Thank you. >> Uh, do you have tattoos? >> I do.
02:54:37
Dana>> Really? >> And I got them when I was in my 40s. >> You would never see it like they're >> What? >> I know. You would never see them, though. >> They're for me. >> Are like rib tattoo or something? >> There's one right here.
02:54:51
Dana>> Okay. You have a cross. >> Small. All right. >> I have a small one on my foot and then I have a real small one right here. a [ __ ] stand. >> It's not. >> Dang. >> Is it on your lower back? >> It is not on my lower back.
02:55:03
Jade>> Oh, it's on your side. >> Yeah, it's like right here. >> On your back, but not in the center. >> Yeah. No, not like 1994 over your rear end. >> The tribal tattoo. >> No, no, no. Okay. >> It's not like that.
02:55:15
Mason Gregoire>> What is the negative of like women having tattoos though? Like in a man's opinion? >> In a man's opinion? Yeah. I I would probably say when I see a woman who has
02:55:24
Mason Gregoiretattoos, it generally suggests to me that she makes uh permanent decisions off of how she feels in the moment. Like, I feel like I really want to get
02:55:35
Mason Gregoirethis tattoo right now cuz I just really feel it. I'm going to get that tattoo. >> Mine very much means >> Well, okay. Well, I'm not saying that yours don't mean something to you. I'm just saying that that is generally what happens.
02:55:47
Mason Gregoire>> Oh, I agree. >> Yeah. And so when I see a woman with with tattoos, I see that she makes illog illogical decisions in the moment based off of her emotions and it's a permanent
02:55:58
Mason Gregoiredecision. Like you can't take that away. She didn't think through that. And she doesn't have people in her life that help her think through those things. So like that's a pretty big red flag to make. >> So are not all permanent decisions made
02:56:10
Jadefrom emotion though? Like if you when you get married, which I assume that I take that as a permanent decision, you are acting out of emotion because you love this person, you align with this person. So you're making permanent an
02:56:23
Mason Gregoireemotional >> There are plenty of plenty of relationships I've been in that if I would have made the emotional decision, I probably would be married today. Mhm. >> But I put those emotions aside and made
02:56:34
Mason Gregoirethe I think right and logical decision by putting my emotions aside and making the hard choice to not continue with the relationship. >> So you're saying that logic and emotion don't ever play hand in hand when you're making an impermanent decision.
02:56:46
Mason Gregoire>> Well, no, no, no. So I think emotions are essentially like a temperature gauge. I think emotions are good. God gave us emotions for a very knowledgeable reason. However, uh if you
02:56:57
Mason Gregoirebase your decisions primarily off of emotion, then that get leaves you going making terrible decisions. Um it makes like a um yeah, I mean some of the most
02:57:08
Mason Gregoireegregious atrocity atrocities in history were made by emotional decisions. So, but so it's a emotion can be a temperature stick. Why do I feel this way? And making that evaluation in into
02:57:19
Mason Gregoirecoming to a correct conclusion, I think that is correct. But if your emotions are being uh are wild and then you make a illogical decision based off of them,
02:57:30
Brian Atlasthat means you prioritize your decision-m using emotions versus making a rational decision. >> Here also uh I do want to add you were I think you're asking was it you who was asking why the tattoo says something bad? >> Yes.
02:57:43
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. So I mean I would say that the graffi uh if you see graffiti it lets you know you're in a bad neighborhood. >> Yeah. Not all >> Tiffany loves that by the way because she has tattoos so I'm basically talking
02:57:55
Brian Atlas[ __ ] about her I guess but um just kidding Tiffany love you but um in a platonic work sort of wayactly um in a
02:58:05
Brian Atlas>> so yeah it's like I I think it displays a lack of long-term thinking um which can be associated with sort of other risktaking behaviors um
02:58:16
Brian Atlas>> and even if it's not rational like for example logically it's possible that a woman could be fully covered in tattoos and she could be a virgin. She could have never done drugs ever. She could
02:58:28
Brian Atlashave never had a sip of alcohol. She could be like a highly virtuous person. >> But my just maybe it's [ __ ] maybe it's not. Maybe it's just reading
02:58:40
Brian Atlasjudging a book by its cover. But when I see a woman who's tattooed, especially heavily tattooed, >> I tend to make assumptions. >> Okay. There's a heavy correlation between the two. Not a causation, but a
02:58:52
Brian Atlasheavy correlation. >> Correlation. So, I tend to think she's probably sexually promiscuous, >> probably into drugs, probably into
02:59:00
Brian Atlasdrinking, um, probably has mental illness, probably has issues. That's my Now, to be clear, the tattoo you showed me on your wrist, >> they're just small. >> No, no, no.
02:59:13
Brian Atlas>> I don't think that communicates that. Not because of the symbol necessarily, but like it's small. The the wrist is also you can't see it when I >> And the thing is like you purposely got them in places where people aren't going to be seeing
02:59:25
Dana>> because I don't want to go for a job and it cost me a job because you know like you have to be rational about it if it means something to you then it really doesn't matter where you put it if it's for you and not for everybody else to look at. >> Yeah. And I can understand like what
02:59:37
Jadeyou're saying like placement can matter depending on job and stuff but like you know for instance I'm in an industry where that doesn't matter. What's the industry? >> Um, like like health and wellness like I do cuz I do massage therapy. I do
02:59:49
Brian Atlasholistic health. So, it's very independent. I like and I work even better honestly. >> No, I mean it's never >> Well, no. Like it's not going to inhibit you from having a job. Well, I I'll tell you this much. Like, if I'm looking
03:00:01
Brian Atlasonline and I'm con I'm trying to get a massage or something and I'm like looking at three different providers and one of them is super cleancut and has no
03:00:12
Jadetattoos versus I see somebody who does have tattoos, I'm going to pick the person who has no tattoos. >> So, you're just prejudice. Okay, that's fine. But >> I I don't know if it's >> Well, no, it's it's more like because
03:00:24
Mason Gregoireit's you think I'm just saying like, you know, and I'm not saying that you're wrong. You can have whatever you want. >> Sure. If you want to label it a prejudice, I'll accept it. Certain prejudices are are granted though. Like
03:00:35
Mason Gregoireif I if I saw a guy in here walk he walked in the door and he has a swastika on, I'm going to be somewhat prejudic towards him. Obviously not saying that tattoos are swastikas. >> Some are, but you know
03:00:46
SPEAKER_05>> if if I look at the sex offender registry, I'm going to have prejudice. >> I'm going to have somewhat prejudice. >> That's preference, not prejudice. >> Well, she's saying it's prejudice. Well, when you're saying that >> Well, no, it's prejudging somebody based
03:01:00
Jadeon something. >> Yeah. So, when you're saying, I'm not saying like that in a negative way, like everyone can have their prejudgments. That's fine. But I just mean like for instance, like you said, you know, be
03:01:10
Brian Atlasbecause I have a flower on my arm, you're going to choose somebody else just because I have this flower. Let me I guess let me clarify a little bit. So, I wasn't necessarily saying the degree of tattoos you have, but when I was
03:01:23
Brian Atlasgiving that example of like the guy who's cleancut with no tattoos, >> I'm thinking perhaps more tattoos than you. Like, for example, let me let me put it to like this. >> Um, >> if I saw you or I saw a massage
03:01:36
Brian Atlastherapist who had like a tattoo here and a tattoo on the forearm, >> I and like I wouldn't not get a tattoo with them or excuse me, I wouldn't not
03:01:45
Brian Atlasget a massage with them because of that. But let's say they had like full sleeves >> like yada >> and like maybe a face tattoo, neck tattoo.
03:01:56
Brian Atlas>> Um I might even if they're the only option for a massage and I mean there's quite a lot of providers in a >> mediumsized city, but >> I'd probably like have some apprehension getting a massage from them. Well,
03:02:10
Brian Atlasthat's more >> but if it was a choice between a cleancut person, whether it's a man or a woman, versus a man or a woman with tattoos, like like full sleeves and
03:02:21
Jade>> neck tattoo or something, I would probably pick the clean cut person. >> Well, that's more where I was like trying to get to the bottom of like understanding like, okay, so is it like someone like even with the dating and
03:02:34
Jadestuff, right? Are you talking about someone that's fully added or just because like they have a couple tech because I have six, right? But they're all um at least four of them are dedicated to, you know, people who I've lost who mean something to me and then
03:02:47
Jadetwo are just like my birth flower and then cuz I like to surf, you know what I mean? Like that's where I was kind of understand like, okay, so where are you deciding like, okay, this person has terrible judgment this and that because they have a couple tattoos that mean something to them or are you saying like
03:02:59
Mason Gregoireyou said where no offense, but like she just saw something on Pinterest like [ __ ] it, I'mma get this. It's like, you know what I you understand what I'm saying? >> No, I get what you're saying, but it it's still like I'm going to mark up my
03:03:09
Mason Gregoirebody with this permanent like marking. Like I don't know. I just don't see the the forward thinking like future knowledge in that. I'm not saying that like because you have your tattoos
03:03:22
Mason Gregoireyou're going to hell. No, no. I'm just I'm saying like there's >> and like a lot of these thoughts aren't really like conscious. It's a lot of subconscious stuff. So like why does someone get a tattoo? Like I would probably assume and probably be correct
03:03:35
Mason Gregoirein my assumption that the people who get tattoos aren't consciously thinking, "Okay, I'm a degenerate person, therefore I must go get tattoos because I'm short-sighted and blah blah blah." No, I'm I'm thinking that like what
03:03:46
Mason Gregoiremotivates them to get those tattoos to become not a skin virgin is they have these subconscious devils that they have not faced yet and they haven't healed from or conquered, I
03:03:58
Danawant to say. So, I mean, it's it's not again, it's just not conscious thought. >> Mine was from a healing. I I used to weigh 396 pounds.
03:04:07
Dana>> And um I made some big changes in my life. And the one on my foot is just reminds me I'm not going back there. So, if I ever look down and I see this, I know you're laughing. >> No, sorry. I was laughing at I wasn't
03:04:21
Danalaughing at you. >> Okay. I was like, really? But no, I was laughing at when I look down and I see that on my foot. I'm like, don't look down. Get it together. you know, you you you have overcome something. I overcame stage four terminal liver disease, you know, like I've had a lot of stuff
03:04:35
Danahappen >> and >> a lot of thought went into that. >> And I did it in my 40s >> and it was um cathartic. It was like an end
03:04:47
Mason Gregoire>> to what was >> and a reminder of what was going to be, >> if that makes sense. >> Yeah. Yeah. But again, like I mean you're not trying to flaunt that to the world because you have in a spot that's
03:04:58
Mason Gregoirenot typically seen. >> And so like Yeah. So I mean >> I like So you're one of the exceptions to this rule. Like technically speaking, I would still prioritize a skin virgin, but >> I get you're like one of the exceptions
03:05:11
Brian Atlasto the rule. >> I as far as the tattoos go, I would say. Do you have tattoos? >> I'm a skin virgin. >> Yes. >> There you go. I would say like for most men. Now there are some men who
03:05:23
Brian Atlashave fetishes. There are some men who maybe they have a tattoo. So maybe they view it as like a commonality where it can kind of get into a potentially a
03:05:32
Brian Atlaspositive. Uh I would say though, at least for me, that tattoos are at best neutral or negative.
03:05:42
Brian AtlasI there's never So when I say neutral, it's like I tolerate like there's never a woman I've ever seen with a tattoo. Not just to be clear, tattoos are not deal breakers.
03:05:54
Brian Atlas>> Although some like >> if she's fully blasted it's probably like I don't have tattoos. Like she's it's probably were so different it wouldn't work >> or whatever. Not necess I mean maybe it could but
03:06:07
Brian Atlas>> like we don't see a tattoo and it gets us going. >> Yeah. Like I guess it depends. It depends a little bit on >> placement, what the tattoo is, how many tattoos she has. It's like a scale. I
03:06:19
Brian Atlaswould say it's a spectrum of acceptability. So like, okay, she has a heart tattoo on her inner ankle and that's the only tattoo she has. Honest,
03:06:30
Brian Atlaslike to me that's totally neutral. Now, would I like slightly prefer her to not have it? Sure. But like I I don't really care that much.
03:06:41
Brian Atlas>> Um but would it be better if she didn't have it? Sure. But it would be like I don't know. >> How can I What's an thing I can compare
03:06:49
Brian Atlasit to? Okay. Your boyfriend makes $250,000 a year. It would be nicer if he made $255,000 a year.
03:07:01
Mason Gregoire>> But it's it's like that's the increment. It's like okay, he's >> an extra $5,000 is nice. Like if he's making $250,000 a year, would you rather him be a plumber or would you rather him be a firefighter? >> I don't know if that's
03:07:15
Brian Atlas>> Come on. Like >> I don't know if that's because it's not dangerous. >> That might be a pretty big >> a plumber. He can fix the house >> in terms of what I suggest. >> Make really great money. >> Yeah, they do.
03:07:26
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. I think ultimately though it for me it's neutral at best. >> Okay. too negative to the point like of the spectrum of tattoo having.
03:07:36
Brian Atlas>> So neutral to ne negative you're falling somewhere on the spectrum. >> Okay. >> Neutral here would be like very minimal tattoo small
03:07:50
Brian Atlasversus like all the way here like massive negative. Obviously we're talking face tattoos. We're talking whites of your eyes tattoos. We're talking like blackout tattoo like
03:08:02
Brian Atlas>> then we're getting into like this other territory. Um >> she's got [ __ ] gang tattoos. She's got like tattoos that communicate something actually. Like for example,
03:08:13
Brian Atlaslike if somebody has an MS-13 gang tattoo, like that does say something like about you, either your current state or your past affairs. >> So, um I actually wrote down some notes.
03:08:25
Brian AtlasI'll just blast them super quick on the tattoo topic. So, it says something about your impulsiveness, long-term judgment. There's a potential for regret there. Um, it could signal a pattern of
03:08:36
Brian Atlasbehavior which someone might make more like emotionally driven choices. Um, association with risky behavior. Um, they do show correlation with higher
03:08:47
Brian Atlaslevels of risky behavior, drinking, drugs, uh, criminal activity, sexual promiscuity. there is a correlation um
03:08:56
Brian Atlasparticularly with like certain types or placements neck face tattoos um there's a professional social image component
03:09:06
Brian Atlasnow um I don't know if you're like a corporate businessman or you're an attorney or you're going to these functions where uh not that I do these
03:09:17
Brian Atlasthings but where you're like bringing your wife and they're meeting the CEO and your wife is like blasted in tattoos that could have like in those professional settings that could
03:09:30
Brian Atlas>> have an impact. Um >> there's also just an incompatibility with uh aesthetics >> like aesthetically you might just be like I don't think it looks good. Um
03:09:41
Brian Atlas>> and it could signal narciss narcissism or attention seeking. All right. Sorry to pound on you guys for [ __ ] 20 minutes. I guess >> mad about my decisions. >> But uh >> I feel like we're sitting down from most
03:09:54
Brian Atlasheaded to least >> pretty much. Yeah. >> Well, yeah. You got the butterfly the the Do you have any other tattoos or is it just those? >> I have
03:10:04
Mollythis one and then I have one here also and then one on my ankle. >> Yeah. So like I wouldn't say you're like you're definitely pretty close on the spectrum there.
03:10:17
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Like okay to like no no no tattoos to like wa that I mean >> you what what's the style called where it's just like [ __ ] >> patchwork.
03:10:29
Brian Atlas>> You have the patchwork patchwork. Okay. >> Yeah. So I mean this one here you got the one there. >> Uh do you have like the lip one? >> No. on the lip. Do you have any on your fingers?
03:10:42
Brian Atlas>> Oh, I I guess the hand one. >> Yeah, I got the hand one. >> Yeah, I mean it's uh I've seen worse obviously like there's
03:10:54
Mollypeople who are just [ __ ] of course like super blasted. You're not quite there yet, but >> it's definitely a preference, but I do regret all of mine and I want to get them removed and I do plan to, but it's
03:11:05
Jadenot like an easy thing and I'm scared. >> And I think that kind of speaks to what she was saying like, you know, she didn't put as much thought into it, right? where versus like you and I where like we said like there was so much
03:11:18
Jadethought that went into it and it was like healing cathartic where it's like I'm and it's like people I love so I'm never going to regret honoring the people I love you know versus >> well yeah there's there's like varying degrees of the
03:11:31
Angelica>> when I was younger I wanted to get tattoos but one rule I put on it was if I still want it in a year I'll get it and if I don't and I never wanted it so I never got any >> yeah and I I think I had at some point
03:11:42
Brian Atlassome temptation But I was like, I I've never had a tattoo. Uh it's crossed my mind at moments, but I was like, you know what? If I still want this in a
03:11:53
Brian Atlasyear and it's like, but even then I was like, eh, no, I'll change my mind. Like I was never wanting it. >> I always thought I'd do my kids' names and I never did it. And but I think the other thing that we since it is a dating
03:12:05
Brian Atlaspodcast, I think one component so if you're like let's say you're a man who's wanting to like have a stay-at-home wife and she's not making any money and
03:12:17
Brian Atlasyou're making money and she's like a tattoo fanatic, that's a financial liability. Like she's going to come to me wanting me to pay for the tattoos. And I'm thinking like that seems like
03:12:31
Brian Atlasfrom my perspective that would be a waste of money. If we're going to have kids, we have a household. Like so what does it say about like a financial responsibility? Because it does seem to
03:12:42
Brian Atlasbe the case that people who are not often in really good financial situations get tattoos. And I'm like, okay, that money could have been, yeah, maybe it's what, a hundred here, a
03:12:54
Brian Atlascouple hundred here, here and there getting a tattoos. Some sometimes like over a lifetime people are thousands tens of thousands of dollars. >> Like how much was your two tattoos?
03:13:06
Molly>> These were each 150. >> 150 each, right? Like how much were your tattoos? >> This one was like 300. These were 150 each also. >> Okay. >> And so it's like,
03:13:17
Brian Atlasyou know, you'll see uh >> So what you said was 300. >> This was 100 total. Yeah. >> 300. I mean, [ __ ] $300 for some people that's like a lot of money.
03:13:29
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> $300 like that's that's your rent, that's your food, >> that's diapers. So, it's like I don't know if I was dating a girl and she was like, I want to get tattoos. This also
03:13:41
Brian Atlaswould apply to like a woman who's has high degrees of vanity. So, like I guess as a next uh sort of hopping off topic, a woman who wears a lot of makeup, a
03:13:52
Brian Atlaswoman who wants plastic surgery, a woman who has a lot of upkeep, she's getting Botox, she's getting lip fillers, she's getting procedures done. I would want a
03:14:02
Brian Atlaswoman who doesn't have a leaning towards needing uh plastic surgery or caking on makeup cuz I view that as a financial liability
03:14:14
Brian Atlasin a relationship, especially at least for me. I'm I mean I'm in a position where I can take care of everything. I'd prefer my my girlfriend or whatever down the road
03:14:25
Brian Atlaswhen we have kids. she doesn't have to work, but I also want her to be uh responsible financially, especially if it's my money that she's
03:14:37
Brian Atlasspending. Um, >> so for me, when I see a woman who's like clearly has mental health issues when it comes to plastic surgery,
03:14:49
Brian Atlaslike I just think, okay, every couple years it's going to be a $10,000 surgery. Like I could afford it, but nah, you're not getting it. So even if she wanted
03:15:01
Angelicait, even if I could afford it, no, that money can be better spent. >> Do you have hobbies that you spend money on? >> Our money, it would be her money cuz
03:15:12
Brian Atlasshe's it's I think relationships are 100 100. >> Well, I'm not I'm never getting married, so yeah, it's always going to be my money. It's always going to be my money. But >> and a traditional Christian woman is going to be okay with never getting married. not Christian. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah,
03:15:26
Brian Atlas>> I didn't know that. >> But uh you know what's I mean some of these Christian women are I I want to do air quotes though. Christian women, most of them are completely if they're into
03:15:38
Brian Atlasyou, they're just they get completely bulldozed. M >> like they just they claim one thing and
03:15:47
Brian AtlasI'm waiting until marriage and then they're [ __ ] like I mean it not all Christian women to be clear. >> There's a lot of hypocritical Christians though. I agree.
03:15:57
Jade>> But uh yeah I mean I'm not getting married. I mean I do agree like you know when you are married right like it's an hour thing especially if you're following
03:16:09
Jadethat gender role of like okay he's the one that's going to be working then like it's an hour situation >> but a good woman is going to have standards and most 90 I don't know what percentage it is but a vast majority of
03:16:21
Brian Atlasthe good women that you want are going to expect marriage >> um I disagree with that to a degree of
03:16:29
Brian Atlascourse an unwillingness to get married uh definitely will close the door for uh perhaps I don't know the percentage I
03:16:38
Brian Atlaswould assign to it. Uh but there's plenty of I think um good virtuous women who would make for good girlfriends, good mothers. >> Well, there are some people who are meant for singleness. Like that's like
03:16:50
Jadein the Bible. Like some people are >> I'm not talking about being single. No, I just mean like that's like unmarried like in when you're talking biblically like single like a singleness like God can give to a singleness because like
03:17:03
Jadeyou're not meant to be tied to like that rib or that person like you have a different purpose for whatever. >> It's not what I'm talking about. So um
03:17:11
Brian Atlasyeah, that's so I can have a long-term girlfriend, stay with her forever, be in monogous, have seven children with her.
03:17:23
Brian AtlasWhat changes? Huh? >> He essentially wants marriage just without the government contract, >> right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I can have so all those things in
03:17:34
Brian Atlasmarriage, the children, the family, I can have all those absent marriage. >> Why does the government contract scare you so much? Or do you don't like you dislike it so much? >> Yeah, I mean primarily just uh financial
03:17:47
Brian Atlasliability and I don't need the government involved. The government is [ __ ] Um, and I don't need some woke, [ __ ] judge
03:17:58
Brian Atlas>> telling me how I should distribute my money and how the assets should go and oh, my wife cheats on me. I and we've been married for 15 years in California.
03:18:09
Brian AtlasI have to pay her alimony for her entire life. [ __ ] the government. [ __ ] the laws. If she wants to be with me, and I hope she wants to be with me for life, and we're going to have a family, and we're going to have kids, great. But I'm
03:18:21
Brian Atlasnot going to let the government ever put me in a position like marriage is a contract. Marriage is a is it's literally a contract. And I'm a
03:18:32
Brian Atlasbusinessman. You know, I'm a businessman because you find me at my places of business. And so when I look at what marriage is from a legal perspective,
03:18:43
Brian Atlasit's a terrible [ __ ] contract. Oh, here's a woman who didn't help you build your business at all. And at any moment, she could be cheating
03:18:54
Brian Atlason me. Or even if there's no cheating, she could just be like, "Well, I don't like him anymore." Which fair, but now he has
03:19:05
Brian Atlasto pay me for the rest of my life x amount of money. That's [ __ ] [ __ ] I'm not going to ever enter enter into any sort of agreement
03:19:17
Brian Atlasthat would allow for that. That's so dumb. So, yes, it's a financial liability. >> What about if you get a prenuptual agreement? >> Uh, yeah, sure. So, okay, prenuptual agreements can be challenged. Uh,
03:19:30
Brian Atlasprenuptual agreements can't be unconscionable. So, for example, the prenuptual agreement cannot state, well, yes, Brian, you make millions of dollars per year and you're uh going to marry a
03:19:42
Brian Atlaswoman who makes nothing and you're married to her for 20 years. You in the contract, it cannot be like uh she gets nothing. That would be an unconscionable contract. So, like prenuptual
03:19:55
Angelicaagreements, they're she still gets something. >> Correct. But you agreed to it upfront and you can have a clause in it that states this prenuptual agreement is to be reviewed every year just like you file tax returns every year. Review it
03:20:06
Brian Atlasevery year. >> But so the prenup so I believe and it depends on the state. I'm not an expert in this prenuptual agreements can can protect assets
03:20:19
Brian Atlasbefore the marriage. anything gained from the marriage onwards is fa the I don't believe the prenuptual agreement can really address it. It would then go community property.
03:20:31
Brian AtlasSo if I'm making a million dollars a year and she's making jack [ __ ] and we're married for [ __ ] 10 years, trust me, she's getting millions of dollars in the divorce regardless of if
03:20:42
Brian Atlasthere's a prenuptual agreement or not. I'm sorry. I'm not giving a woman if she's even if I >> child support is the bigger liability at that point. >> Not necessarily because that would that
03:20:53
Brian Atlaswould have a limit as to how long it could go and uh I if we have children uh whether we're married or not that that's something you can't escape, >> right?
03:21:04
Brian Atlas>> So I why add another liability in that case? So I don't there's no point. Yes. Okay, you got me. Yes. If I have children with her, I would have to technically pay her child support. I'm
03:21:15
Brian Atlasokay with that. I get I mean I'm actually not so okay with child support. I think that can be kind of [ __ ] too in some ways because sometimes it it's um >> most often the word most often child support isn't even used for the ch
03:21:28
Brian Atlaspaying for the things child needs. It's not in in some cases the child support doesn't cover enough for the child care expenses, but sometimes it can be very exorbitant, especially if you're a high earnner.
03:21:41
Brian Atlas>> Uh especially in California where the calculation is based off of uh your income and it's just a percentage. Okay, you make this much money. Uh say you make $100,000 a month, you're going to
03:21:53
Brian Atlasbe paying her $10,000 uh in child support a month. It doesn't cost $10,000 a month in child support to raise a kid. >> [ __ ] the government and [ __ ] her, frankly. Um, that's ridiculous that you
03:22:04
Brian Atlaswould ever A lot of these child support payments are completely exorbitant is the word I was looking for. Um, the woman is going to use the child support for things that
03:22:15
Angelicahave nothing to do with child support if the payment is exorbitant. So, that's [ __ ] That's completely [ __ ] There should be a cap on it. I I would challenge you on that a little bit and
03:22:28
Angelicatalk talk to an attorney about it because I think you're shutting out a lot of women that would be otherwise aligning with all of the values that you have.
03:22:38
Brian Atlas>> Well, I mean, my perspective on this is is like, okay, woman, uh, so if I'm making millions of dollars a year, but I won't give you marriage, but it could work. Or you could go marry a guy who
03:22:50
Brian Atlasmakes $100,000 a year. Like, that's the trade-off. the woman's like going to have to make. I think
03:22:58
Mason Gregoire>> I think uh I I definitely agree with Brian on this. Um I like personally I don't see any benefit to getting a legal government contract to get married. I
03:23:09
Mason Gregoirethink it is a a covenant made between God and so it's a covenant in God's eyes made between a man and a woman. Where is the government supposed to be in that? >> Right? >> Not supposed to be anywhere because the government is essentially incentivizing
03:23:21
Mason Gregoireyou in ways. Hey, if you get if you do this divorce thing, we'll give you this. We'll make it comfortable for you. We'll make it easy. And essentially incentivizing people to do a divorce right
03:23:32
Mason Gregoire>> and the marriage for their own vain feely reasons. And I mean, especially once we've like uh instituted um uh gosh
03:23:41
Mason Gregoireno fault divorce laws, like I think this absolutely shot uh marriage in the foot. like it absolutely destroyed it because I mean all it is now it's saying I don't
03:23:53
Mason Gregoirefeel like this marriage is working out and I have these divorce laws that I can fall back on to. I can have all these incentives and benefits if I do end this end this marriage and ruin our
03:24:03
Mason Gregoirechildren's lives, ruin our lives. I think um yeah, I think having a marriage where there is no government contract involved makes you think very hard before you get into that marriage. you're gonna bring up all of those
03:24:16
Mason Gregoirereally difficult topics that need to be brought up before you decide to marry this person. Like all of the do you believe in abortion? Um what are your political views? Uh like do you think we should be going to church every single
03:24:29
Mason Gregoireweek? All of those extremely hard topics that people tend to avoid right now because oh I could just divorce him if we find something that we disagree on. I mean, I think there's both sides to
03:24:39
Jadebecause I do agree like I don't really love the role that government plays in marriage because I also agree like it's a commitment between you, your partner, and God. Like, I would be totally fine getting married in a field with just me,
03:24:51
Jademy partner, and my family under God, you know. But I also think that in one way where yes, it does give people that easy out. It also does make people think like, okay, like I need to make sure if
03:25:02
JadeI really marry this person, like I'm in this because if we do get divorced, like that's messy. It can be bad. Like a lot of this kind going in Well, going into
03:25:12
Mason Gregoirethis, I don't know why people who aren't Christians get married. Honestly, it's the dumbest thing ever. >> Like Yeah. I think it's so dumb. like you get in a governmentally binding contract uh to spend the rest of your
03:25:25
Mason Gregoirelife with this person. Like you don't really believe that you're in a covenant with them. Like you're doing it for like I guess so you're not alone and you have like a fleshly pleasures with them. But like why do people who don't believe in
03:25:38
Mason GregoireGod ever get married? That's blows my mind. I have no clue. But if you are in a Christian, if you are a Christian, you get married to somebody and they divorce you and they take everything. Well, if you're part of a good healthy church,
03:25:49
Mason Gregoirethe church is what takes care of you. I mean, my church um in my motorcycle crash, they they took care of me. I mean, I I had people visiting me every day at the hospital. Um when I was
03:26:00
Mason Gregoirerecovering, uh people just lend me room rooms in their homes to live in while I recovered until I could start working again. Um the church is designed and it's really good at taking care of its members. A really good solid church. I'm
03:26:13
Mason Gregoirenot talking about those mega churches out there that like you might know someone's name and that's it. Yeah. No, like really solid churches that are actually your family. Like when when those messy divorces happen, that's what
03:26:26
Mason Gregoirethey're what that's what the church is there for, to be able to take care of you. And the government sucks at doing that. >> It always prioritizes in the wrong ways. It incentivizes people to break that marriage. Um where I mean, if you go
03:26:39
Mason Gregoireinto a marriage without that government contract, >> shoot, it's so much better. And if you're a Christian and something does terrible, something terrible does happen, there is that uh you can fall back into your church and they're there
03:26:51
Angelicafor you. >> Um the only legalities uh then if you're not married would be to consult with an attorney of how you can pro protect your wife or your significant other if
03:27:02
Brian Atlassomething were to happen to you >> because she doesn't have spousal rights >> under the laws of man. Well, well, so I mean, okay, if you're like thinking of
03:27:11
Brian Atlassome sort of scenario where you're incapacitated or you, you know, uh, die before you otherwise expected to, you could, that's called a will and testament. So, okay, >> that's not enough.
03:27:24
Angelica>> Huh? >> That's not enough. You minimally need a trust, a living trust that will make it revocable when you die. >> You are acknowledging that you can have that sort of way.
03:27:34
Angelica>> Well, there's there's that's what I said. If if if in one way um you believe that the prenuptual isn't protecting you, then what security or protection
03:27:46
Brian Atlasdoes she have? And >> okay, so hold on. But you're you're now that's back to what the woman wants. Um how do I benefit?
03:27:57
Brian Atlas>> Um how do you benefit? Uh >> yeah, how do I here? I can I can list out all the negatives.
03:28:07
Brian Atlas>> Tell me why as a male bread winner I should get married. >> Um, you don't have to do anything you don't want to. >> I No, but what are the So, okay, if you're making a case for marriage, if you're arguing for marriage,
03:28:22
Brian Atlas>> Yes. >> aside from contending with my criticisms, what are the pros? What are the Why should I, as the man get married as the male bread winner? You don't have to, but that's not what I'm asking you.
03:28:34
AngelicaI know I don't have to. It'll be e I think you're cutting off a lot of very traditional women that you're expecting to find. >> That's actually I think that's compelling to a degree.
03:28:44
Angelica>> Um but that's not enough. >> And have you talked to a family law attorney to get all of the laws and specification for the state that you live in? I would want to ask all I mean
03:28:55
AngelicaI'm not there. I'm not getting married. I just divorced. But if I were to remarry, I would want to talk to the family attorney and say, "Okay, I need a bulletproof
03:29:06
Angelicalegal in all 50 states, prenuptual, very blanket, uh, you know, prenuptual. What are my options? I would want to educate myself on that before I get married."
03:29:15
Brian Atlas>> So, I I mean, ultimately, I guess you're right that the laws vary state by state. Um, and I don't have like indepth
03:29:24
Brian Atlasknowledge uh necessarily about specific outcomes or specific uh laws, but I have
03:29:34
Brian Atlasa baseline understanding of marriage and divorce laws in the United States. I know, for example, that prenuptual agreements aren't this magical contract that means you're going to have a good
03:29:46
Brian Atlasoutcome in the event of a divorce. you're still going to get financially [ __ ] simply by virtue of having the marriage. You're going to get lawyers involved. Um that creates an expense
03:29:57
Brian Atlasright there. It creates a financial liability immediately. If you do get married uh through the court system, then yes, you're immed you have to get a divorce if you want to separate. That is
03:30:08
Brian Atlasgoing to cost money. Whereas, hey, okay, we don't want to be together anymore. Well, okay, we got to figure out the the child legal situation. But that that would be the only legal component should
03:30:21
Brian Atlasyou have children. If you're married, then the divorce comes into play. Then it's like, okay, we got to untangle our money. If we bought a house together, if I earn things during the marriage, if I
03:30:33
Brian Atlashad [ __ ] Bitcoin, you got you're going to grab my [ __ ] crypto. You're going to grab part of my assets. You're going to grab all these things. And so again, I'm asking you, why should the why should me as the man, the male bread
03:30:45
Brian Atlaswinner, get married? I'm the woman and I paid it. >> Okay. So I So just to be clear, I I understand that the the laws also do apply to women too. But I'm asking from
03:30:58
Brian Atlasfrom >> as it is the case that generally speaking, men are the ones who get [ __ ] in divorce generally. I'm not women can get [ __ ] too. men, women, if the woman's making more money and the
03:31:08
Brian Atlasthe man's the stay-at-home dad or whatever, yeah, the woman would uh be paying alimony, would be losing money, would be in a financially bad position. >> So, I guess,
03:31:20
Brian Atlas>> but that's not that's not what I'm asking. I guess if if you want to divert it to the gender thing, why should the bread winner, why should the person who make, which is mostly men, why should
03:31:32
Angelicathe person who makes the most money out of the two, why should they get married? >> Um, well, I think you would have to be fully educated on it. I don't know
03:31:43
Angelicaenough to speak intelligently about it yet because I haven't talked to a >> uh attorney about the prenuptual legalities and protections. And if you review it every year and you can amend it every year, I'm sorry, but it's going to be very difficult to contend
03:31:56
Angelicasomething that you just agreed to last year. >> Wait, what? I >> if if you have in my opinion, I I don't know enough about it, but in my opinion, you have a prenuptual agreement that gets you both agree before you get
03:32:08
Angelicamarried. It's going to get reviewed every year for any changes, if any, >> and you agree to it every single year. >> What does that mean? How are you how are you go how is she going to
03:32:19
Angelica>> uh defend or cont contest it in a court of law when she just signed it last year even if you've been married for 20 years >> that you're not communicating.
03:32:29
Mason Gregoire>> Well, okay. So, what he's asking is like how do the benefits of getting married overweigh the benefits of not getting married? So, he he's listed all of these benefits to not pursuing that government
03:32:42
Angelicacontract. How is it getting married outweighs that? >> Because there's a solution to that to that worry. I think there's not >> by speaking to an attorney that knows a little bit more.
03:32:55
Dana>> It would not be beneficial for you to get legally married and especially if you're not a Christian and you have someone who has the values that you like and they want to be with you, it would not be advantageous for you to go into a
03:33:06
Danalegal contract with a woman who brought nothing monetarily to the marriage. Um, that is 100% true. You and if and if I mean that may be a deal breaker for her, but when you find the right one, she
03:33:19
Brian Atlasmight be like, "Hell yeah, Brian, let's do it." And you may be with her 50 years and have 10 kids. You >> My belief is, my perspective is is that if the woman only wants to be with me on
03:33:31
Brian Atlascondition that we have a governmental marriage, like a legally uh like through the courthouse or whatever, she's just not that into you. she ain't the one.
03:33:41
Brian AtlasUm, further like now I if I wanted to date a woman who like maybe I'd be I think I'd be okay like
03:33:52
Brian Atlassay she was Christian or whatever and she wanted to have the ritual. >> Yes. without the corresponding legal uh complexity. >> Obviously some states there's like
03:34:04
Brian Atlascommon law marriage and I believe if you were to >> like hold yourself as if you were married you would technically have a common law marriage but in California and there's other states too. I don't
03:34:17
Brian Atlasknow the breakdown of all the states that are have common law marriage or whatever. California doesn't. Um >> but yeah okay you want to have like a ritual. you want to have. >> I guess I'm okay with that. >> Just a profession of love, you know,
03:34:30
Brian Atlaslike your relationship >> if she really wants it. I guess we could do it at in Vegas or something. >> Vows under God in church somewhere. >> But actually having a legal government marriage.
03:34:43
Brian Atlas>> Absolutely not. >> Absolutely not. Wouldn't do it. There's pretty much the only reason you should do it. I mean, I I would say you should get married if you're a Christian
03:34:54
Brian Atlasbecause that's a something you should do as a Christian, right? Um >> law. >> It calls for it. It calls for marriage. However, oh boy. Um however, uh
03:35:06
Brian Atlas>> they don't like our stream. >> Yeah. Yeah. Um hold on one sec. Uh one sec. Uh wait, let me just check something really quick. Keep the camera there.
03:35:24
Brian Atlas>> Just a [ __ ] bird or something. >> Yeah. Okay, cool. >> Yeah. Yeah, we're good. We're good. Um I don't know. Um, >> I mean I agree as well like I don't
03:35:34
Jadethink it's necessary if you're not like you said like Christian to have that marriage in general because like that is a profession of you declaring your love and your faithfulness, your commitment
03:35:46
Jadeunder God to that person. And if you're not under that faith value, then it doesn't make sense like for you to just go into a contract just for love, especially one that's more likely to hurt you than
03:35:57
Brian Atlas>> Well, I mean, the other thing to consider though is all my concerns still apply to Christian men. Like all those concerns in terms of the financial liability,
03:36:09
Jade>> even though you're a Christian and you're called to get married, you still have to take these things into uh consideration. Yeah. And that's what I mean like I wouldn't like if my future
03:36:21
Jadehusband or whatever was like, "Hey, I don't want to like get married on paper." >> I would be fine with that because to me it's the commitment that matters, not this little paper we have to sign because that this is what's going to
03:36:34
Mason Gregoirereally matter down the line. >> Well, I mean cuz when you sign that paper, it puts in a bunch of incentives to end it to get a divorce. incentives start to appear once you sign that piece
03:36:46
Brian Atlasof paper. If you don't sign the piece of paper, there's no incentive to end that divorce or end with divorce. >> So, I mean, >> and then I I the other thing I was just thinking about is uh and that is a good
03:36:58
Brian Atlaspoint. It's like, well, okay, we're having an argument. Oh, if I divorce him, I I get um alimony for the rest of my life and I get like
03:37:07
Brian Atlasthousands of dollars every month. And so it's like creates an incentive for for women or whoever the >> like
03:37:16
Brian Atlas>> the is not the bread winner to maybe just be like well do I re do I receive a benefit by ending this whereas if I just have a girlfriend and she ends things
03:37:29
Angelicawith me. >> Mhm. What about her perspective? Um, where you can just leave because
03:37:40
Mason Gregoire>> she can just leave too. >> Well, right. But you are also incentivized not to really try when [ __ ] gets hard >> because you just leave. >> I mean, so two I guess two things.
03:37:52
Angelica>> Well, if you just leave, you lose what the bread winner was providing. No, but let's say she's let's say hypothetically in 15 years after seven kids,
03:38:04
Angelica>> uh, you just turn into a monster to her, like you're just an [ __ ] to her, like verbally abuse her. >> Um, you slap her once, you're like an alcoholic, something >> hypothetically speaking.
03:38:15
Angelica>> Sure. Okay. >> Okay. Um, and she's trying or, you know, and you're just she criticizes you on it. you know, if you would stop drinking that alcohol, I think, you know, it
03:38:27
Angelicawould be better for our relationship. >> And you're like, "F this, I'm just going to leave." >> Uh, and you leave and you're you >> and that's no security for her.
03:38:38
Brian Atlas>> Well, I mean, if so, if we have children, uh, the child support would cover some of it. Um, but, uh, yeah, I
03:38:48
Mason Gregoiresuppose a woman has to weigh that as a potential risk. Uh, however, I mean, >> yeah, >> I mean, I think it's hard to believe
03:38:57
Mason Gregoirethat this uh extremely negative behavior just spawned out of nowhere in this guy. I mean, >> I suppose it could happen. I mean, I guess it could happen, but it's
03:39:07
Mason Gregoireextremely rare. And like I mean, again, if you're part of like if you are getting married, like I don't again, I don't see why the world people who are not Christians get married because if you are a Christian, that stuff happens.
03:39:20
Mason Gregoirethe church is there to help you. They're there like the money that people donate to the church, it's made for these kind of situations. >> Well, also this hypothetical scenario, you like
03:39:32
Brian Atlascouldn't that go the other way, too? >> Yeah. >> So, it could go the other way, too. Like, she could be a terrible piece of [ __ ] She could cheat on me. I did get married to her and we were married for
03:39:42
Brian Atlas15 years. Boom. Permanent alimony kicks in in California. Once you're over 10 years of marriage, >> she she got gangbanged by my [ __ ] best friends or like something [ __ ]
03:39:54
Brian Atlasterrible could happen and now I'm gigafucked. Like I I think the worst case scenario in both situations is
03:40:03
Brian Atlasokay, the woman stopped working and she um she was a stay-at-home wife for 10 years, which truth be told, I think is
03:40:15
Brian Atlaskind of like a pretty damn good scenario. Like, okay, everything is covered by your husband. You don't have to work. That seems like kind of a blessing. Like it would be wonderful if
03:40:25
Brian Atlasa if like hordes of women who had [ __ ] ton of money were like ever came around to men or to me in my life and were like, "Hey Brian, uh I want you to be a
03:40:37
Brian Atlaspampered little prince and just do nothing and take care of the household and raise the kids." Wouldn't it be nice? Uh I actually think it's a privilege for women to get to be stay at
03:40:48
Brian Atlashome and not have to work. I think that's a privilege especially nowadays where economically uh financially it's actually very very difficult. A man has to earn quite a bit of money to actually allow that to happen. Most people are
03:41:01
Brian Atlasgoing to have to have a two income household. So I do think it's a privilege for a woman to uh be a stay stay at home and the guy's taking care of all the finances. That certainly will
03:41:10
Brian Atlasbe the case uh for me. The woman will never have to work ever. Um, but so I I I think it ultimately though men would get the worst end of the stick if we
03:41:21
Brian Atlaslike the worst case scenario in both situations. Okay. I I'm done with her and she we're not married. She's kind of financially [ __ ] I think you can get
03:41:32
Brian Atlason your like that seems like you can get back on your feet. um versus man has a financial duty to like you can have a clean break from somebody like okay [ __ ]
03:41:44
Brian Atlasyou're financially in a shitty position. You're you're completely clear from them. You're completely done with them. If I'm married to a woman for over 10
03:41:53
Brian Atlasyears and she does some [ __ ] [ __ ] I am tied to her for life. She gets my money for life. I the government can force my
03:42:04
Brian Atlaslabor. It's literally [ __ ] slavery. The government forces me to give her money so long as I'm working. The government has a right to my labor. She has a right
03:42:15
Brian Atlasto my labor after she [ __ ] another dude for the rest of her life. So 20 years later, I'm still paying. I haven't seen this woman. Imagine that, bro. What
03:42:27
Brian Atlaswas 20 years ago? What was like a big band 20 years ago? The two 2006 was Britney Spears crazy at that point. I don't remember >> 2007 she got crazy. I think
03:42:41
Brian Atlas>> she still is. >> Imagine you haven't se Imagine you haven't talked to somebody for 20 years and you still got to write them a check. >> Yeah, that's crazy. >> 20 years. That's [ __ ] stupid. That's
03:42:51
Mason Gregoirestupid. And so like I think the the scenario you're giving us I would rather live in a world where like that scenario probably happens 01% of the time whereas
03:43:03
Mason Gregoirethe scenario nowadays where divorce is absolutely just rampant in our society. It's like 50% of marriages ended in
03:43:12
Jadedivorce. I would rather take the 01% risk than the 50% risk. >> Yeah. I think like that is a good point like you know because I was in a situation with my ex right we were
03:43:23
Jadetogether for five years and then when I had to decide to leave because of like the infidelity and you know the unwillingness to change that you know he was the provider like I worked a little
03:43:34
Jadebit but like he took care of mostly everything but then when I left like I didn't have [ __ ] like I ended up having to like stay in my car for like two months because in Cali like it takes a while to get enough to like you know
03:43:46
Jadehave a place but like I can understand like that point of like that's something you can recover from. Like it did only take me like 2 months to like find my bearings and get my crap together to
03:43:57
Jadelike recover from that versus like >> Yeah. And does the situation suck? >> For life. Yeah. Exactly. And like it is a crappy situation to be like, "Oh my god, now I like don't know what to do. >> This the suck is only for
03:44:09
Brian Atlas>> relatively a short period of time." >> So I do I do understand. >> Yeah. And it's I mean there's certain arguments to alimony. It's like, okay, let's say the woman was on track to have
03:44:20
Brian Atlasa corporate career, but I think like and so she she didn't pursue uh she didn't elevate in her career because she chose to stop working and stay at home and
03:44:32
Brian Atlastake care of the kids. But it's like, okay, let's say I meet a girl and she was working at Chick-fil-A as a [ __ ] I don't know, like a minimum wage fast food worker. When I say Chick-fil-A, not
03:44:43
Brian Atlasin the corporate office, not as some like big shot regional manager. >> She like entrylevel fast food worker. And I meet her and I'm like, "Okay, 6
03:44:55
Brian Atlasmonths after dating, let's move in together. Year later, let's have kids, take care of everything." I'm like, and and then we break up. And then, you know, there's these women
03:45:07
Brian Atlaswho were [ __ ] nobodyies and they dated some basketball player and it's like they didn't take those shots. They didn't they didn't they weren't my MJ.
03:45:17
Brian AtlasThey weren't LeBron [ __ ] Dre's Dr. Dre's wife. She wasn't making [ __ ] hits after hits for
03:45:27
Brian Atlasdecades. No. Like, okay, maybe she deserves something. Half. That's [ __ ] insane. And it's like I don't know. I I I mean like
03:45:40
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. And I think like that's like the difference too of like people who like >> Wait, wait, let me just finish my thought on this. So it's like, okay, she she was working at Chick-fil-A, she can go from my perspective, if she
03:45:53
Brian Atlaswas working at Chick-fil-A and now she's like, say she's living with she matches up with a millionaire, her lifestyle jump >> is way better than it would have been had
03:46:04
Brian Atlasshe just continued on her own and dated another [ __ ] Chick-fil-A worker. Her lifestyle has improved massively. I think that that's like
03:46:15
Brian Atlasa huge uh benefit to her to be basically she stopped working. Everything was provided for her. Food, house, rent, expenses, everything, medical,
03:46:26
Brian Atlaseverything taken care of by the man. And then you know what? Maybe he [ __ ] up. She [ __ ] up. They break up. She can go right back to where she was
03:46:36
Angelicaworking. She was at Chick-fil-A. Back you go. You don't get half a You don't get millions of dollars. That's [ __ ] >> I have a question. How often does that scenario happen? And how likely is it to
03:46:50
Brian Atlashappen? >> What scenario? >> The Chick-fil-A girl with a millionaire. >> You So all these basketball players, they're just wifing up millionaire women. No, they're wifing up nobody's. All these [ __ ]
03:47:03
Angelica>> Well, and that's what I was going to say. It's the intellect has to match because I don't think you would be tied to >> me. >> I don't think you would go out with a Chick-fil-A server. I think there there
03:47:15
Brian Atlaswould be there would be I think there would be a very big intellect clash. >> I think there would be nothing to talk about. >> Well, hold on. There's a couple things there. So, um I actually had a a two-year relationship with a girl. This
03:47:26
Brian Atlaswas many years ago. This was gee 2018, I think. 2017, 2018. So, quite a while ago. Um, she worked at Chick-fil-A as far and she was great girl by the
03:47:40
Brian Atlasway. >> Many years ago though, right? How many years ago? >> Uh, it was 2018 about. >> So you were a lot younger. Was that six years ago?
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Brian Atlas>> 27 28 I guess. She was younger. She was like 20 or something. >> Okay, that kind of goes. >> But like she was actually quite smart. Uh, she was a good person.
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Brian AtlasShe worked at Chick-fil-A. Uh, she hooked it up. I was a fan of the chicken. But >> the sauce,
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Brian Atlas>> but like intelligent g like she's pretty like I'd say she's smart, but um just because you work at a fast food job doesn't mean you're not intelligent.
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Angelica>> No, that doesn't it doesn't mean that all the time. No, there's there's >> And she's also young, too. Like I mean >> Yes. That's why that's why I mean like that thei the scenario of someone that
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Angelicais successful and intelligent is probably uh someone that hasn't been educated they may be 18 19 20 years old still in college doesn't have the int capacity to
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Brian Atlashave a meaningful a lot of meaningful conversation they don't have a life experience yeah >> life stages I mean just just because you you work a
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Angelicafast food job doesn't mean you're not intelligent or don't have the capacity for >> I don't mean like you're dumb like you don't you don't know you you don't have the ability
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Angelica>> also I like a simple woman to be honest >> let me let me rephrase that uh inexperience with life person they're just too young I I I can't imagine having a conversation with an 18-year-old right now
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Brian Atlas>> uh >> besides how's the weather and how was high school >> well I mean this would be like a value values compatibility thing. So, like for example, um he's a Christian. >> I would arg and Mason's 30.
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Brian Atlas>> I would argue Mason has more in common with an 18-year-old Christian woman than he does with a 30-year-old
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Brian Atlasum atheist liberal woke purple hair septum. So, like this idea that you can't have compatibility and commonality
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Brian Atlasand shared virtue or values with somebody younger than you. My argument would be someone much younger than Mason, an 18, 19, 20-year-old, but she's a Christian. There's way more alignment there.
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Brian Atlas>> Probably a virgin, too. >> Not necessarily, but >> well, higher than a very high chance. Yes. >> Well, more more so the chance she's a virgin than the 30-year-old.
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Brian Atlas>> Yes, indeed. >> But I'm not I'm not holding out for these 18, 19, 20 year olds being virgins. But, um, >> fair. But there's some there's some. But
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