Andrew Wilson vs. SUPER Feminists! Misandrist? She HATES Brian?! 300+ Body Count? | Dating Talk #183
Date: 2024-07-31
Duration: 8h 41m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Taylor Furber(guest)
SPEAKER_04Richard (audience)(audience)
SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_09Brianna(guest)
SPEAKER_10Alex Kane(guest)
SPEAKER_11Delaney(guest)
SPEAKER_12TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_13Liza(guest)
Key Moments
00:05:49
IntroLuna Baby introduces herself: 30, Vegas, social media and porn. Adult industry 10 years.
“hello I'm Luna baby I am 30 um I currently live in Vegas grew up in LA and my occupation I do social media and porn”
00:06:32
IntroLiza introduces herself: 28, Isla Vista from Chicago, singer-songwriter. Sings original song chorus.
“hi I'm Liza I'm 28 I live in Isa Vista but I just moved from Chicago um I'm a singer songwriter”
00:09:19
IntroAlex Kane introduces herself: 22, Las Vegas, adult film.
“Kane I'm 22 I live in Las Vegas and I do adult film”
00:09:43
IntroDelaney introduces herself: 27, Santa Barbara, former property manager, entering medical industry.
“I'm Delaney I'm 27 and I am uh been in Santa Barbara the last 10 years I'm originally from San Diego”
00:10:53
IntroTaylor Furber introduces herself: 33, Nashville, red carpet reporter, podcast host Talk to Me Taylor.
“hi everybody I'm Taylor furber 33 the grandma on this... I am uh formerly in La I'm in Nashville now I was a red carpet reporter”
00:11:26
IntroBrianna introduces herself: 21, UCSB, psych and brain sciences, from Riverside.
“hi everyone my name is Brianna I'm 21 I'm originally from Riverside but now I'm here”
00:13:08
IntroLayla introduces: 30, Northern Arizona, off-grid glamping PM, No Agenda EP.
“I'm laa I'm 30 I'm from Northern Arizona and I'm a property manager for off-grid glamour camping airbnbs”
00:13:26
IntroAndrew Wilson introduces himself: host of The Crucible, political analyst, debate university creator.
“my name is Andrew Wilson the host of The Crucible the fastest growing debate Channel on YouTube”
01:33:42
ControversyLiza expresses fear over Project 2025 and reciprocal IVF rights; she and Delaney considered leaving the US.
“especially as someone who wants to have children through reciprocal IVF which is specifically detailed in that document”
01:49:05
OtherLiza reveals she has had two abortions; emotional disclosure about wanting to be a mother.
“I had to have an abortion because of the situation I was in as a teenager being abused and being threatened with homelessness”
02:03:54
OtherDelaney discloses past sex work/escorting during relationship with Liza; Liza supported her through it.
“I used to be a sex worker um and I was a sex worker that involved sleeping with um men um and Liza was we were in a relationship for a period during that time”
02:56:33
ControversyAndrew Wilson presents force doctrine argument: men could remove women's rights by force if they chose.
“if men collectively said that you couldn't do that you couldn't do that right at this point I mean if they imprisoned me for it”
03:07:07
OtherSelf-ratings round begins: Brian asks everyone to rate looks 1-10 (can't pick 7).
“going around the table starting with you rate your looks on scale of 1 to 10 can't pick seven”
03:35:30
ControversyLiza and Delaney confront Brian about being combative/misogynist; Brian defends his hosting approach.
“I just found somebody who's not very respectful of women”
03:57:27
OtherBear or man question posed. Liza and Delaney both choose bear due to personal trauma with men.
“would you rather be stuck in the woods with a random man or random bear starting with you go ahead”
05:29:00
TopicLiza/Delaney mini-departure moment after political debate gets too heated; Brian redirects to other guests.
“we'd be happy to host an actual debate on it but um thank you so... we need to move it on”
05:55:18
OtherDelaney reveals she was previously a sex worker/escort and did OnlyFans to pay bills for a year.
“it did pay all my bills for a year it paid my fiance's bills it made my dreams come true I mean I don't regret what I did”
06:17:29
QuoteBody counts revealed: Luna says ~200-300; Alex Kane says over 1,000.
“my body count if you really want to know yeah I probably past a couple hundred couple hundred okay like 200-300”
06:19:04
QuoteAlex Kane states body count over 1,000.
“over 1,000 I love dick I love being a slut”
06:40:03
QuoteLuna defends body count double standard; argues critics are the same people consuming her content.
“who cares like it's back to the double standard fine... the same people who want to devalue me and people in my industry are the same people consuming it”
07:55:21
QuoteTaylor Furber explains her power game with male friends: challenges them to grab her ass by end of dinner.
“I will put it on the table and be like okay you know I Dare You by the time we leave this restaurant like grab my butt”
Topics Discussed
00:00:15
Show open / announcements / debate university promo
Brian opens show, channel announcements, promotes debateuniversity.com verbal combat course with Andrew Wilson.
00:05:41
Guest introductions
All 7 guests + Andrew introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Luna Baby sings; Alex Kane intro; Delaney; Taylor Furber; Brianna; Layla; Andrew Wilson.
00:14:20
World War I/II trivia round
Brian asks panel to name WWI/WWII years and Allied/Axis powers. Mixed results.
00:18:18
Relationship status round
Each guest shares relationship status, longest relationship, and single period. Includes discussion of dating civilians while in adult film industry (Luna, Alex Kane). Liza reveals engagement to Delaney; Brianna reveals virgin status.
00:51:07
Feminist / patriarchy debate
Extended debate on feminism definition, dismantling patriarchy/whiteness, male vs female rights. Liza and Delaney as primary feminist advocates vs Andrew Wilson debating. Topics: DEI, meritocracy, Kamala Harris, female representation, women's suffrage.
01:30:00
Bodily autonomy: abortion vs military draft
Andrew Wilson debates bodily autonomy — abortion rights vs Selective Service (draft) registration. Liza/Delaney argue pro-choice; Andrew argues draft is equivalent bodily autonomy restriction. Both agree draft should be equal or abolished.
01:33:42
Project 2025 / US freedom debate
Liza and Delaney express concerns about Project 2025 (reciprocal IVF referenced). Andrew Wilson argues US is the freest country. Discussion on LGBTQ rights, abortion policy.
01:40:30
Reparations / dismantling whiteness discussion
Brian asks who owes reparations. Liza/Delaney on dismantling whiteness systems. DEI debate, Japan immigration analogy, Israel mentioned.
01:45:00
Abortion personal stories
Personal disclosures about abortion experiences from multiple guests. Discussion on trauma, shame, lack of aftercare, pro-choice vs pro-life. Religious debate on when life begins.
02:06:54
Suicide / euthanasia discussion
Discussion stems from bodily autonomy debate. Liza's position on allowing adult children to make end-of-life decisions. Growing up Jehovah's Witness reference.
02:19:03
Male suicide rate statistics
TTS brings up men dying by suicide at 3.85x rate of women (CDC stat). Brief panel discussion on why men commit suicide at higher rates.
03:07:07
Self-ratings round (looks 1-10)
Brian asks each guest to rate their looks 1-10 (can't pick 7). Then asks what 1,000 men would rate them. Comparison to Pamela Anderson in her peak.
03:10:10
Will you be better-looking in 10-20-30 years? debate
Discussion on aging, Botox, breast implants, wrinkles. Most women say yes (in different ways). Andrew challenges with logic about magic wand aging.
03:57:27
Bear or man survival scenario
Standard Whatever question: stuck in woods alone with random man or random bear. Liza and Delaney choose bear (due to trauma with men). Others split. Extended debate on male victimization risk statistics, force doctrine, women's self-sufficiency.
04:43:06
Victimhood hierarchy debate
Discussion on whether victimization can be compared/ranked. Convenience store robbery scenario vs assault example. Liza argues no perfect victim; Andrew argues levels of victimization exist.
04:52:18
Ukraine war / men barred from leaving
Andrew uses Ukraine war example: men 18-60 barred from leaving country, women could flee. Discussion on who is more victimized in war.
05:05:00
Women's self-sufficiency without men debate
Andrew Wilson argues women need men (force doctrine). Liza argues she needs tools not men. Discussion on infrastructure, construction, physical strength differences, fire making.
05:12:00
Force doctrine / physical power dynamic
Andrew Wilson presents force doctrine argument: men's physical dominance means women's rights are ultimately granted by men. Feminist guests dispute.
06:17:29
Body count debate / double standard
Body count revealed (Luna ~200-300, Alex Kane 1000+). Debate on double standard for promiscuous women vs men. STD testing practices among sex workers discussed.
06:18:00
Sex worker debate: porn addiction / industry criticism
Luna and Alex Kane defend porn industry. Andrew analogizes porn criticism to tobacco company criticism by addicts. Discussion of PornHub safety improvements, CP concerns.
07:55:21
Taylor's relationship dynamic / monogamy philosophy
Taylor Furber describes her unconventional relationship approach: flirting with male friends, issuing 'ass-grab challenges' as power play. Partner is twice her age, non-possessive. Brian and Andrew challenge the logic.
Transcript
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05:44:06
Brian Atlaswomen like do men women well if you just ask me the question do we need women yes yeah do we need like but you guys are like no don't need don't need men to procreate hey I didn't I said we need man the only reason you can think of that's all we're good for you mean the
05:44:19
Brian Atlashighest did I say that do you know what a St man is do you know what a man is what you're apply do you know what a STW man is if we're not good enough to do anything else that a man can do right if we can't if all if we can't do anything
05:44:30
Brian Atlasthat a man can do all we're here for is to be a baby maker for you didn't even say that why do you think we need what's your what do you need to survive with women besides well here's the thing
05:44:42
Brian AtlasI mean my position well I mean procreation the other side you wasn't part my propagate is it wrong for me to want to propagate the species hello no that's why I said I need men for if
05:44:54
Brian Atlaswe're taking if we're taking reproductive out of it just like if a society could function without women if you do you think you need women to function as society and I'll give why I'll give an explanation because I think
05:45:06
Brian Atlasthat boys and girls both need their mother and that there's an ontology which exists for women their state of being the feminine and the masculine are
05:45:17
Brian Atlasboth required to formulate good human beings that's I do not believe that you are going to have a society of good human beings unless you have the masculine and The Feminine I don't
05:45:28
Brian Atlasbelieve it right we so that's why I think you need both and I think that the further you get away from the idea of the feminine in women and the masculine in men the more [ __ ] up people seem to
05:45:40
Brian Atlasget so that's why I think we need women absent reproduction But to answer to your reproduction argument if all it was was reproduction and that was the highest value of women what the [ __ ]
05:45:51
Brian Atlaswould be wrong with that that's amaz a caretaker not hand inand with reproduction uh well no you can be a caretaker not reproduce at all what are you talking about you said boys and
05:46:02
Brian Atlasgirls neither mothers I got the move yeah you but I'm sorry can you ad can you adopt yeah sure would you beone would you be a mother well no you asked if if they necessary conditions to each other
05:46:15
Brian Atlasthey're not you can be a caretaker for children and not have reproduced those children so if that is true you still need the masculine the feminine I think that that's a requirement but I still think also to address your argument of
05:46:28
Brian Atlasreproduction do you think I'm just a baby Factory that's like the highest value that men have for women and that women usually have for other women it's gone away in society but it used to be
05:46:39
Brian Atlasglorified motherhood matrons in society who gave birth used to be glorified not looked at as by other women is ah sweetheart you really could have been a
05:46:49
Brian Atlasscientist so and let me ask you this if our smartest women if you want to waste them in factories and you want to waste them in [ __ ] in cubicles and you want to waste them working why wouldn't you
05:47:01
Brian Atlaswant the smartest women in society to be having children why can't they who are really [ __ ] smart because I'll tell you why because in order to hit this status the elite status for women they have to go to
05:47:14
Brian Atlascollege in order to do that they waste the entirety of their 20s they're not getting married till 30 so they have one [ __ ] kid if they have any that's why you have a reproduction crisis so if they're not starting early they're not having very many children so it's as we
05:47:27
Brian Atlashave run this experiment here's what we found they're not they're not having them so no you they can't do both because you can only draw attention you can only draw attention so far right you're not you're not the look no
05:47:39
Brian Atlasoffense yeah you're not a [ __ ] top level scientist you're a porn star yes you can do both but when you're talking about the best and the brightest I hold any value as you think the best what I'm saying is that the best and brightest
05:47:51
Brian Atlasinside of society who are females yes I want them reproducing the best and brightest children do you think just because I'm a porn star I can't do other things I there are girls what does that have to do with anything that I just
05:48:02
Brian Atlassaid you just said no offense you're a porn star yeah so does that mean I'm not I don't have the brain okay so I'm just going to I'm just going I'm to be totally I'm going to be totally honest
05:48:13
Brian Atlaswith you I really really really do not associate I do porn with high IQ not going to lie and that's personal wrong opinion I really don't Dean list and
05:48:24
Brian Atlashonor R society's boxes that are in your head it's sad that's your own personal prejudice against women who Embrace themselves what does it have to do with
05:48:33
Brian Atlaswomen fine I saidia Trump did I say women or did I say corn star am I not a woman and are men not corn Stars yeah okay then what is that I
05:48:45
Brian Atlassaid the I don't associate high IQ with corn Stars you said oh so you don't like women corn star you think they have low can Rel all corn Stars I think all corn
05:48:55
Brian AtlasStars male and female I would associate with having low iq's I would associate narcissistic bigots with having low IQs personally so then you should stop being
05:49:05
Brian Atlasa narcissistic bigot it that's not me are you sure positive I don't know you you seem you've gone out your audience is kind of biased so we definitely can't ask them but I'm pretty sure if we ask
05:49:16
Brian Atlasthe majority of everyone else they would probably agree that I'm narcissistic for giving you facts no that you're narcissistic for sitting here trying to tear people down and Gaslight them into what if I gasl you into fumbling and
05:49:29
Brian Atlas[ __ ] up their answer to hope you get the reaction you want out of them oh I'm sorry I thought you were super high IQ shouldn't shouldn't people not be able to do that to your super high IQ self you're not oh I don't know you've been fumbling the entire night I really
05:49:42
Brian Atlashaven't you really have you literally told the entire audience that a person stealing a Snickers bar potentially could have the same trauma as an sa victim and you think have I did not say the same trauma I said you better canot
05:49:53
Brian Atlasperceive how that person how that trauma affects that person moving on yeah let's move it on yeah I agree let's move it on let's move it on all right all right we have two chats then we're going to get into uh okay Robert Tanner think of all
05:50:06
Brian Atlasthe human uffing caused by the sad truth that beautiful sexy women are handsome poor Shing men often prove to have miserable jees for other traits okay Robert Tanner thank you for that that's an interesting one uh quite the take
05:50:18
Brian Atlasthere thank you Robert Tanner message we have LOL LOL paladins thank you man the woke M virus does think that procreation is bad that there are too many humans the extremists want World
05:50:30
Brian AtlasWar III and okay the plus is okay the moderates just want us to uh die off over okay all right um here next question here next question I'm going to try to get through these quick I hopefully we
05:50:42
Brian Atlasdon't Linger on them for too long uh can you be sexist towards men I don't care oh come on come on you don't care sure yeah okay just
05:50:53
Brian Atlascan you do it into the mic yes yes I think yes I think yes as well yes you can sure yep yeah all right can uh somebody in the somebody in the chat begged me to ask this question okay I'm
05:51:05
Brian Atlassorry I'm sorry totally not dating relatable [ __ ] it whatever um can you be racist towards white people wait starting with you of course they are not a marginalized or minority
05:51:16
Brian Atlasso racism is more I would say it's Prejudice not racism okay your answer I would say the same thing Prejudice versus systemic abuse I don't can't okay yeah I think preice but I also think it
05:51:28
Brian Atlasdepends on where you're at though because I'm sure there's like yeah there's areas where there's not predominantly white people so I'm sure that there's possibility to experience racis yeah you can be Prejudice towards white people but I don't think there's any
05:51:39
Brian Atlassystems that white people are the losers in so you can't really be racist towards them about affirmative action what do you give me a specific example of affirmative action like the
05:51:51
Brian Atlasfact that for example with universities uh in universities they will typically penalize both Asian and uh white people when it comes to their
05:52:02
Brian Atlasuh SAT scores for example so in order for you to be more likely to uh qualify for enrollment in a university as a white or Asian person and it's actually the highest amongst Asian people uh you
05:52:13
Brian Atlashave to score a higher uh in your testing metrics than for example like Native Americans blacks and uh Native Americans blacks
05:52:24
Brian AtlasLatinos Pacific IIT no that would I I get what you're going with the question but yeah so I agree with the concept of giving people who've historically had less opportunities uh a kind of a step
05:52:35
Brian Atlasup and giving more of an opportunity like Asian people I well why are Asian people hold on why are Asian people penalized the most under the system I'm not that's like you you are interrupting me dude you're
05:52:48
Brian Atlasdoing what you don't want me to do so and I'm honestly so exhausted that I I don't want look like I just don't know how much longer I can go oriz for interrup I'm hungry and tired but I
05:53:00
Brian Atlasagree with the concept of if there's a group that's historically been stepped on and not given an opportunity agree with the concept of trying to level that the ways that we've gone about that I
05:53:11
Brian Atlasdon't necessarily agree with no but I do agree that that's part of dismantling the system if there's a system is in place where historically white people always win we need to change it are we changing it concept question absolutely
05:53:23
Brian Atlasyes I've talked to so many black people who are like yes we could be racist against white people just like Asians on black vice versa of course I think yeah it's more of a Prejudice so you can't be racist towards white people then no okay
05:53:35
Brian Atlasyou can be racist against white people like I can be a misogynist and a female okay all right that's um just a quick followup um being
05:53:46
Brian AtlasPrejudice is it just as morally reprehensible as being racist I think it could be I mean I think that in an again I'm not trying to just say if we lived in a dream world because I know that's
05:53:58
Brian Atlasnot the case but if we did then I I think that if you act in a disrespectful way towards someone based on something they can't change about
05:54:09
Brian Atlasthemselves physically at least within like 30 seconds let's say I don't think you should base how you treat them based on that okay aren't they on some level
05:54:18
Brian AtlasSy and then same same to you ISE being Prejudice equally morally reprehensible as being racist yeah I think so I'm like at this point so mentally exhausted I'm scared I'm going to say [ __ ] I don't
05:54:30
Brian Atlasbelieve in anymore but I I think so I'm just so I can't think straight I've already had one I just think I just got to make it we have some applesauce you want some applesauce can I have some I Just Energy mad can you hook her up with
05:54:41
Brian Atlasthe little applesauce is it or is it organic medicine I don't care if it's organic I just need a little sugary something get this girl do you want two apples saces we have two P anybody else
05:54:53
Brian Atlaswant applesauce we we got the plug we got the applesauce plug I as a gentleman as a gentlemen I will provide the
05:55:03
Taylor Furberapplesauce for how Noble of you I'm a nice guy see all right uh theous thing you've done I'm very
05:55:11
Brian Atlasshiv clearly uh let's see come on I know you have think do you guys think that this is like sort of a two-parter question um that me and Andrew are
05:55:23
Brian Atlasmisogynists yes circle jerking under the table are we in a okay never mind um do you think me and Andrew so you could say yes for Brian no
05:55:34
Brian Atlasfor Andrew no uh do you think we're misogynists starting with your maybe yes okay maybe yes okay I'll take that I think specifically you've been vocal that you haven't been saying women can't
05:55:46
Brian Atlasdo these things but this is just an objective truth so I wouldn't say that you guys are misogynist I would just say that you tell us how you really feel no
05:55:55
Brian AtlasI no I'm agreeing I just don't I I don't I'm so sorry I just don't know how much support you would actually give women in your daily life I would need to get to
05:56:08
Brian Atlasknow you to know that how much just curious how much support do you give to men in my daily life I mean I don't interact with a lot of men so when I'm interacting with them then I of course I'll give support but you know I don't
05:56:20
Brian Atlasknow but I just don't know you guys so that's what I'm saying is I don't know you do you think me and Andrew are misogynists I also don't know y'all well enough but I mean based off of like the current conversation I don't think so I think you've put a lot of hypotheticals
05:56:33
Brian Atlasout potentially just playing like Devil's Advocate but I me thinkes you guys necessarily misogynist what about you I think that some of the statements both of you made throughout the last six
05:56:45
Brian Atlasor seven hours have come across as misogynistic to me however I don't know either of you well enough to to label you as that as a human being but I think I have some viewpoints that could be massage I think I have some I think we
05:56:58
Brian Atlasall have some viewpoints that might be racist or misogynistic or anything that doesn't mean you as a human being are that at your core though okay but so this is shocking coming for me cuz I actually feel like we throw that around way too much in guys who don't deserve
05:57:10
Briannait MH um I'm not going to lie I feel like you guys are are okay all right what about you um same thing I feel like I don't know you guys well enough to know if you're a misogynist I also don't really
05:57:22
Unknown/Ambientlike throw that term like easily so I say no no uh you I don't know you guys but I know that you're not massagist cuz
05:57:32
Brian AtlasI am so uh okay that was an interesting one so wait going back going going back to you um just so we can make sure we're
05:57:42
Brian Atlastalking about the same thing how do you define misogyny um thinking that women are lesser than you okay hating women hating women
05:57:53
Brian Atlaswanting to treat us differently just because we're women or you think we lack the brain capacity or any of the physical skills to do anything any other human is capable of well then I do if
05:58:05
Brian Atlasthat's the definition then the one part of it of want to treat women differently then I would fall under that that part of that definition for sure because he
05:58:15
Brian Atlasbelieves in Chivalry I'm sure well no that's not why but okay we'll go that uh let's get definitions so your
05:58:26
Brian Atlasdefinition of misogyny since you pretty clear about it yeah if you look it up one of the key words is contempt so what you said like a contempt or hate for Wom
05:58:37
Brian Atlasso which one is it the contempt or the hate part that interwin they're synonyms contempt let's Associated for all intents and purposes contempt I suppose you can have contempt for somebody without hating them but uh okay so are
05:58:51
Brian Atlasthese in by the way these individualistic definitions meaning if what if you just have contempt and hate for one woman porn stars is that okay is that misogyny or does it need to be
05:59:03
Brian Atlasspread over the pool of women spread over women I'll say it again women I know we were so does it need to be spread over women I think so yes as a group okay so I
05:59:13
Brian Atlassupport hating one man I support five women that's awesome good for you how many men how many how many men do you support I have amazing men in my life yeah how many men do you
05:59:26
Brian Atlassupport Mr raising eyebrows how many men do you support support countless financially yeah it's not your business zero
05:59:36
Brian Atlasyou're dating a 60-year-old uhuh curious where you guys are going I'm just asking how many men do you support N I don't have any kids and I'm it's really interesting that the
05:59:48
Brian Atlasmisogynist over here is supporting all the damn women and the not misogynist over there not doing much for the men just saying but I would argue that we support each other and we don't I'm not
06:00:00
Brian Atlaswe're not taking care ofage by men like I'm not taken care of by men she took care of me misogynist right no I didn't but why is it just monetary that's just that's not even well I think it's I just think it's interesting extracting
06:00:13
Brian Atlassomething again well because you said it has to be applied over over women in general so this would apply to the fact that since I have four daughters and a
06:00:22
Brian Atlaswife at home that I must be a [ __ ] monster who hates them I would hope not I agree with these women I don't I don't know enough about you hat hey but from
06:00:34
Brian Atlaswhat you've described in this conversation over infinity is what I sense is just a genuine superiority of men over women
06:00:43
Brian Atlaslike I haven't heard you say other than procreate like one positive thing about I'm sorry I gave you an entire ontological argument for why women were necessary that Brian couldn't even give
06:00:55
Brian AtlasI gave an entire on I actually gave you an ontological syllogism for why women are necessary in society can you do that for men for me real quick can you give
06:01:05
Brian Atlasme an a olism okayed men in society from the beginning of this we I love men why do we need them wait no you don't you love men Brian I've said it oh I get it
06:01:17
Brian Atlascuz I've said it like three times just making sure it's clear yeah so anyway I gave I gave an actual ontological argument for why we need women literally I don't I don't know where he came up with this idea I just think I don't know I'd have to know more I'd love to know
06:01:30
Brian Atlasmore but you don't believe in Chivalry like I said it just seems like you have these underlying it's just toxic like women that's toxic to not believe wait let me ask you question just because you
06:01:39
Brian Atlashave daughters does I and I hope that they're you know awesome and you raising them and but just so that proves okay like what is that you know there's a lot
06:01:50
Brian Atlasof shitty people you could still be a massage it just doesn't it doesn't so is it you said it's toxic to not be chivalrous no no no I said no no no I was saying you're just what you've said
06:02:00
Brian Atlasthroughout this your behavior is it's toxic is it toxic masculinity you again you would I'd be the last person cuz I have men's backs all the
06:02:12
Brian Atlastime I've had some of our society's biggest label misogynist come on to like State their case and have their back why they're not and you know it's unfortunate it's it's out there I have to see I have to say even the comments in here and just how you guys are it
06:02:25
Brian Atlasit's you know it's a little toxic and I hate that cuz it's such a buzzy word and it's so whatever has lost its weight um and I debunk it all of the time but you know again prove me wrong it's like I
06:02:36
Brian Atlasjust feel women are second it's pretty apparent I think that the reason you're embracing the buzzword of misogyny and toxicity is because we dared disagree
06:02:47
Brian Atlaswith you and you're a Pampered princess that's again your opinion so I think you're mandress have right you're mandress wait did you pick the bear no I said so many times I would not going to
06:02:59
Brian Atlaspretend for [ __ ] seconds to fight off I think that men who dare disagree with women especially you are just kind of label this my boyfriend disagrees and goes Toe to Toe and Challen your boyfriend lets you flirt with other dudes what are you talking about he's
06:03:11
Brian Atlasthe most permissive [ __ ] I've ever heard of man than you'll ever that's neither here nor there he challenges so much more of a man he lets you go with other dudes man he's not thre
06:03:20
Brian AtlasI'm dude whatever he challenges not going to whatever he challenges and goes Toe to Toe with me all the time I don't need to be C like a princess you sure
06:03:31
Brian Atlasseem like but he's also not a misogynist he honors and respects women as equal like empowers women in ways I I he's open my eyes then then if I'm wrong give me an actual example of anything I've
06:03:43
Brian Atlassaid which is misogynistic a single one that women can't do anything you've said society would completely be destroyed if it were to if it were left to women yes this is like a [ __ ]
06:03:55
Brian Atlasfever dream literally I feel like why would that be a misog seen it all I'm like on because you don't think we can do okay yeah but I gave an Evidence not I
06:04:06
Brian AtlasI gave an evid I gave an evidenced reasoned I gave an evidenced reasoned argument an evidenced reasoned argument
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Brian Atlasfor why I think that absent men society would collapse you talk about porn stars like they're trash and worthless men and women and I think bigoted narcissists
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Brian Atlasokay he how you think about me is how I think about you in the moment great men and women advocate for the patri nothing I have no value I didn't say anything about you not having value okay
06:04:39
Brian Atlasyou advocate for your have value I think all human beings have have ontological value okay so me being a porn star you think that takes away from my value as a
06:04:49
Brian Atlasperson my morals my being Tak away from your morals yeah okay your does it make in your opinion I'm trying to answer your question I'm not saying that you're
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Brian Atlasnot a valuable human being mhm okay I would love to see you reform from being a cornstar I mean you're probably not going to but I'd love to see it but yeah I mean yeah I think it compromises your morals for sure but I wouldn't apply that to you because you're a woman I
06:05:14
Brian Atlaswould apply that to you because you're a corn star has nothing to do with you being a woman okay you've talked about fighting for the patriarchy you talked about feminism she's has not been you said that you like patriarchy does that
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Brian Atlasmake you I never said yes you did okay does that make you a mass said that did you talk about the downsides of women I don't know being fully realized [ __ ]
06:05:37
Brian Atlasindividuals after feminism being it's like it's it's a that in in that way it's apparent to me but if that's not misogyny to you then you don't have to literally be a woman beer sexuality safe
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Brian Atlasand health way somebody who thinks women are lesser or hates women I want an example of how you can demonstrate that I think women are lesser or that I I
06:06:00
Brian Atlasjust explain you can hit rewind how women are lesser okay women can't maintain a society you've propped up the jerk thearchy okay how you've debunked and said what is everything wrong again
06:06:12
Brian Atlasfeminism has not been perfect it's gone too far in some ways he's going against women being in the work all kinds of St being individuals outside of Betty cocer [ __ ] and the sep wife look we got to
06:06:24
Brian Atlasaddress points one at a time if you're just going to like list off like a million different things look so okay specifically on the argument of what would happen if all men dis appeared
06:06:36
Brian Atlasimmediately and women didn't have any opportunity to be able to learn the ways in which huh nothing go ahead no what did you say I said I'd throw a parade yeah that's how that story
06:06:48
Brian Atlasstarted yeah throw a parade so that is how the story started can we all agree on one thing you might you might disagree with the outcome here would you guys be prepared to agree and
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Brian AtlasI I could show you like the Bureau of Labor Statistics I could show you the representation of men who are in in infrastructure jobs if it's the case that say like over 90% of men in like
06:07:11
Brian Atlascritical infrastructure jobs the types of jobs that really keep Society Running when it comes to the electrical grid when it comes to waste management when it comes to sewage when it comes to water when it comes to all this stuff
06:07:23
Brian Atlaswhen it comes to telecoms Etc will you at least grant me that it's 90% men it's probably more but let's just say it's 90% men it is 90% men but it's men's
06:07:33
Brian Atlasfault that it's 90% men Society was set up to very recently women were even allowed to do those jobs it wasn't our choice that we weren't allowed to do those jobs your guys' choice so we would
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Brian Atlashave that choice is precluding women from entering these fields nowadays but okay we're talking about now we're talking about now but even nowadays what is pring them is the mechanic going to
06:07:56
Brian Atlasgrant for second women are still treated like [ __ ] in those so much to the point that they're like I'd rather be an esthetician cuz people don't treat me like [ __ ] agreed so we'll just grant a second that this is
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Brian Atlasthat that it's men's fault that women are not in those roles fair enough at this moment in time there are more men in that field that's if if we acknowledge that if it's 90% men 95% men
06:08:20
Brian Atlasand these are the men who are for example that they're in the job when anybody here been around when there's like a blackout not here not here I don't know if you've ever seen I don't know if
06:08:32
Brian Atlasyou've ever seen like if there's a a power line that's out and it's 3:00 a.m. it's men who are going to fix that in the middle of winter when it's snowing and there's a hail storm it's men who
06:08:44
Brian Atlasare going to go out and fix that right unless you're Nina right okay unless you're Nina so granting all this granting that 90 95%
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Brian Atlasof men take up these occupations how could it just be how is it wrong to say that if it's the men that would fix these systems electrical bread sewage waste water everything telecoms whatever
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Brian Atlasit may be if it was the men who occupi those jobs if they all disappeared like why is it wrong to say that if they all disappeared those systems would
06:09:21
Brian Atlascollapse go baby would they not would they not collapse would they not collapse I think what you're I'm agreeing with what you're saying is we're taking all the information we have right in this current moment and if that
06:09:33
Brian Atlaswere to happen yes and no one figured like okay that maybe could happen but my question is why are we trying to imagine a world without men well so why is that
06:09:43
Brian Atlasthe issue yes I'll answer the question yeah so I would concede on the other end the flip side that there's women who are in things like Child Care Nursing occupations things like this if they all
06:09:55
Brian Atlasdisappear tomorrow I can show you crisis after crisis that men would have to scramble to solve yeah 100% we're just saying that societal infrastructure itself is not going to completely collapse how that could ever be a
06:10:07
Brian Atlasmisogynistic statement I don't know but the reason that we're trying to dive into this is because again to explain it again I run into delusion constantly
06:10:17
Brian Atlaswhere it's no I don't believe that that would be a problem no I do think that we would be just fine no I do I don't think that there would be significant problems
06:10:27
Brian Atlasthat's a delusional take which then I can take to kind of get to the heart of those issues so okay if it's built this false belief where did we come up with
06:10:38
Brian Atlasthat false belief that's why it's important no I understand but I guess my next question is how how do you know what's delusional or not what is your objective Truth where does that come
06:10:49
Brian Atlasfrom well and if if I may just jump in really quick the reason that we actually provided this scenario of if all men disappeared women didn't have some like Forge of it coming it just instantly
06:11:00
Brian Atlashappened when we asked you do you need men a lot of you said no don't need them don't even need them for my survival all right well I mean despite us presenting evidence that you actually
06:11:12
Brian Atlasdo do you you still can I CH in really quick I agree with you that based on the way that Society is functioning right now you're right if you guys all randomly disappeared probably the power grid would go out and stuff like that
06:11:24
Brian Atlasbecause 90% of those jobs are held by men in the first place however this is where it becomes misogynistic to me is I do believe that you're right maybe initially there would be some sort of chaotic uh collapse things wouldn't be
06:11:36
Brian Atlasworking out but what I believe wholeheartedly is that women have the ability to learn train themselves and use tools to be able to to accomplish those jobs so maybe there would be a
06:11:47
Brian Atlaslull where we're [ __ ] for a little bit cuz everyone needs to catch up but I strongly believe that women put their heads together and teach each other and learn yeah you're right I might not be strong enough but like I ran the produce department at Trader Joe's and I was the first woman in 10 years to do so I was
06:12:01
Brian Atlasusing a Big Joe Jack do you think I was lifting pallets alone no but I I learned how to operate Machinery so that I could move those pallets by myself at 3 in the morning every morning I was a first woman in 10 years to do so can I just
06:12:12
Brian Atlasthis little fact you think I can't learn is what's misogynistic not that I don't know it right now ask you question disputed ever so are you would not collapse if we had the ability to learn and fix it but but but hold on hold on
06:12:25
Brian Atlashold on let me just say one thing are you familiar with the term point of no return yes of course so you say if we can learn I'm telling you within days the telecommunic system down internet
06:12:37
Brian Atlasdown you wouldn't have the internet you wouldn't have like the means to go like internet down within days electricity down within days like where you you
06:12:48
Brian Atlascan't just go to a library and pick up a bookle ridle me this though what about the beginning of time when men they didn't know how to make a fire wait let me talk let me talk men didn't know how
06:12:59
Brian Atlasto make a fire and did they have the internet to teach them no maybe one group of men learned in this small village to make a fire men on the other side of the world also kind of figured out how to make a fire eventually we all
06:13:10
Brian Atlasfigured it out so do I'm I'm assuming it's men because you guys are are acting as if men are the ones to figure this out that's what I'm saying tell to assume it's we have let me we have the
06:13:21
Brian Atlasequal ability so if everything shut down I do think that like in my immediate Little Village me and the woman around us I'd lean on the women Clos this to me and be like what do you know that I don't teach me and I'll teach you what I don't and some woman hours away from me which I don't have the internet so can't
06:13:35
Brian Atlascommunicate with her she's doing the same thing with the women in her immediate surroundings and eventually you're right it might be a blackout period like we're cavemen for or cave women for a second but I I think that we are smart enough that we can learn and
06:13:46
Brian Atlasfigure it out and teach each other and eventually we can rebuild Society because event like at one point in time we didn't this Society was built in the first place why can't we rebuild it again why are we so stupid we can't
06:13:58
Brian Atlasfigure it out you're right I don't know how the electrical grid works but I do believe I could learn if I tried I believe you so but not but that was never the point of my dispute so the point of your dispute was can women survive without you I think initially we
06:14:11
Brian Atlaswouldn't know what to do and then I think we Le and we would know how to to do it I don't wish to live in a world without you guys I really don't can I can I talk I was I wasn't done talking wait how can you stop talking
06:14:22
Brian Atlasfor 5 seconds and then I start and you say I wasn't done I didn't stop for 5 seconds I was like mid opening my mouth when you interrupted me like I was actually not done talking you can talk done talking let me know I I mean if you
06:14:35
Brian Atlascan read social cues and you're a host you should know when I'm done talking I did read the social queue and you said you weren't done you you read them wrong you're right so I I told you what you read wrong but I I I mean I'm I'm [ __ ] tired I'm
06:14:47
Brian Atlasdone if if I was here single I would be going home now not cuz I'm giving up but because I'm tired um and I I just like I don't I'm feel like I'm talking in circles and I have learned a lot from
06:14:59
Brian Atlasyou guys tonight I'm really appreciate the opportunity for being able to do this but and some my perspective a little bit but at the end of the day I'm leaving here knowing
06:15:09
Brian AtlasI'm capable of everything you guys are I don't think that was really our that wasn't thee of the isue anyways I I will move it on I want to finally get oh man
06:15:19
Brian AtlasI'm going to finally get into the notes Here uh so going to and we have like tweets and Tik toks to react to bringing it back a little bit to dating we have
06:15:30
Brian Atlasuh uh hold on sorry Luna we have Luna excuse me uh we had some tweets of yours that we thought were interesting
06:15:39
Brian Atlasso uh Nick can you pull up the tweets uh so Millet your respond don't scroll down then uh Daily Star five
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Brian Atlasthings five things still stand on yeah five things that should never go near your vagina one military men two Aries Libras Sagittarius men three women
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Brian Atlasaren't good people ask Men Four what's your body count ask men and lastly five conservative Finance Bros podcasters and musicians now this is I I think you're saying this in for all vaginas though
06:16:13
Brian Atlasnot just your vagina all vaginas those types of men should avoid vaginas you're taking that Tweet Way Too literally I could be wrong you're taking that TW way too literally it was OB very obviously
06:16:24
Brian Atlasmeant to be a funny joke oh but thanks for the clarification I did oh I thought you understood like basic stuff but okay
06:16:33
Brian Atlasanyways um yeah no military men have notoriously been in my experience I've dated my fair share of military men they are narcissistic especially the higher
06:16:45
Brian Atlashigher the rank one question though so it's either a joke or it's not so you just said it's a joke it is a joke but it doesn't apply to everyone it's applied to me oh okay it applies to in
06:16:56
Brian Atlasmy personal experiences like I just said sure but it doesn't apply to everyone okay that's fine uh and you don't like what's your body
06:17:07
Brian Atlascount men the most idiot why does it [ __ ] matter why does it matter why does body count matter yeah to you why does my body count matter to you like
06:17:17
Brian Atlaswell I mean I don't really care about anyone your body count but uh I would say men generally speaking do have a preference for not dating promiscuous
06:17:27
Brian Atlaswomen less used women yeah didn't last us I like almost like children right more pure so just to be clear let me ask you
06:17:38
Brian Atlasa question so would you object more to a man dating a woman who's uh 25 but a virgin and say he's uh 30 versus a man who's 30 who dates an 18-year-old but
06:17:49
Brian Atlasshe slept with 100 men which one do you object to more they're all consenting adults it's their preference I thought you said you no it sounded like you had an objection
06:17:59
Brian Atlasto Men Who prefer prefer a less used vagina that's that's [ __ ] weird that's weird do you know again do you know what strong man is that's fine
06:18:10
Brian Atlasyou're entitled to your wrong opinion for you that's fine me personally you're not going to change my mind and I don't think we're going to get anywhere with this argument cuz you're not changing my viewpoint I'm obviously not why are you
06:18:23
Brian Atlasso I'm we're just having a conversation about I'm also having a conversation so should they prer more used vagina everyone has their preferences well then I don't understand the objection to preferring not a use vagina
06:18:35
Brian Atlasa woman has less value just because she's had a little more sex than another one is insane wait may I may I okay go ahead so we all make value judgments when it
06:18:47
Brian Atlascomes to who we're going to partner with do you agree or disagree with this for example would you tend to value a guy who meets every single one of your standards and is a billionaire and has
06:18:57
Brian Atlasthe perfect penis eyes and is amazing and treats you well versus uh short balding fat obese man who is broke dat
06:19:07
Brian Atlasboth and I don't care you don't care at all it doesn't matter one's in the military and one's not in the military with my track record and you know how men in the military I've experienced I
06:19:19
Brian Atlaswould choose the one not in the military okay so you're making a value judgment you're comparing one man to the other and making a determination I prefer men who X the compar let ask you question would
06:19:32
Brian Atlasyou prefer to date a virgin or man who has sexual experience whoever's going to treat me better mhm doesn't matter who's sexually experienced that's an insane no I I'm
06:19:43
Brian Atlasnot going to O are you a virgin I want to date you that's well let's assume they would both treat you well you don't have try them both out you don't see who see who see who I Vibe
06:19:55
Brian Atlaswith better well so can I ask you another question then so then uh does one's skill in the bedroom doesn't matter at all like if someone's bad in
06:20:04
Brian Atlasdoesn't matter no cuz I'm good okay I mean that's a fair response I suppose um Nick pull it back up because I just wanted to uh see the full
06:20:16
Brian Atlascontext of it I hate to interrupt I am wondering how long this goes though because we I do have animals we have three animals at home I kind of want to feed them and sleep so if we if we're get head out because we don't want want
06:20:28
Brian Atlasto be quitter like I come off that way gen exha we have three we we have definitely some stuff to get through with we wanted to react to like some of Luna stuff um honestly it's going to be a lot of Luna
06:20:43
Brian Atlasstuff honestly just to be courteous to you since you guys didn't pre-plan this maybe you're hungry and stuff um if you guys want to if you guys want to depart
06:20:53
Alex Kaneoh should we do the last the last question oh wait hold on big SAS energy donated $200 her list is really men who prefer
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Alex Kanenot to have sex with her her lists include that typically are of higher value so she is a proclivity to go after
06:21:12
Brian Atlaslow value men because she's low value a interesting booh um so for you two uh are you guys interested U I don't know
06:21:24
Brian Atlasif it would be both of you or just you uh would you be interested in coming perhaps tomorrow for the a more uh formal one-on-one debate I I kind of am but I also I would like Liza and I to be
06:21:36
Brian Atlasable to talk about it not on camera cuz I it's our last day off together before the work week starts again and I don't know I mean we need to go grocery shopping and I kind of want to do life [ __ ] but I I I I would I want to make
06:21:48
Brian Atlassure we can talk about it's not seven hours again I think we' be willing the one-on-one debates would be much shorter if they're much shorter then hell yeah I live a 3 minute walk from here I I'm going to walk home right now what makes
06:21:58
Brian Atlasyou s get anywhere near my vagina sorry I'll I'll have you two take their seats but thank you guys so much for coming we apprciate it was great Al we disagreed although we disagreed I thought you guys were fantastic guest so
06:22:11
Brian AtlasI appreciate you guys coming do you want an applesauce for the road we got we got app we never finished the tacos we bought on the way to meeting you guys I'm going to go home and eat that's commitment I really yes thank you thank
06:22:24
Brian Atlasyou guys for coming thank you guys we'd love to um so can I see can I get my phone I to check well hold on uh can you hang tight here it's a little too many
06:22:33
Brian Atlaspeople up at once so see walk home can you guys take their seats please um wait so Andrew could you take over for like two minutes I'll be
06:22:45
Brian Atlasright okay so so guys so back so the weather so back to the back to the idea briefly of
06:22:55
Brian Atlasmisogyny and the idea that Brian's a misogynist right Brian not me but Brian is a misogynist right I I would like to actually revisit what you think was
06:23:06
Brian Atlasstated that is actually misogynistic I explained them already Andrew and even the way and this this is where it gets blurred because is this internal misogyny contempt for women or
06:23:18
Brian Atlasis this just kind of being a dick but I felt like the way that you just you guys just approach or sorry Brian proach women talk not going to not going to lump you talk to talk to us women talk about
06:23:31
Brian Atlaswomen approach women I just found somebody who's not very respectful of women nope slightly let me ask you this okay can you assume for a second that
06:23:42
Brian Atlasevery woman who comes on the show they have a different worldview right mhm of course some women get really upset if you don't treat them just like you would treat men they get really mad about it
06:23:54
Taylor Furbersuper mad why are you pampering her because right so what I do is this I just treat everybody exactly the same so if there I'm going to to differ though
06:24:06
Brian Atlasthis is what hangang there's been men on the show that I've I've been on with and I rip them to shreds as bad as I do to women that's good from what I've experienced and just from what I've observed here's a perfect example when
06:24:18
Brian Atlasyou and I were having a fun thing Brian called out me and not you like Taylor stop stop talking and let let yeah but you were in the wrong there I wasn't you started it and you know it yeah but you
06:24:29
Brian Atlaskept going okay so it's you know stuff like that even how you continuously you know cut us off and you know it assisted you didn't and again maybe it is just
06:24:38
Brian Atlasdickish behavior and you do that with dudes too but you know it's just and again I don't know if it's like an act for the show for it's how if it's how you guys are really are in real life like I'd be fascinated to see you with
06:24:50
Brian Atlasyour wife and your girls let me ask you this do you think when you rewind this do you do like you're honest I don't plan on it not going to lie but you're honest opinion do you think that we
06:25:00
Brian Atlasinterrupted more or we interrupted more with me or in general here in general uh he didn't as much you did though do you think I interrupted more than I was
06:25:12
Brian Atlasinterrupted uh I feel like you've interrupted at least every you times think so I think so would you be willing to put would you will we're doing dollars now would you be willing to [ __ ] well I don't is it a reliable news
06:25:25
Brian Atlassource is it fake somebody out there will literally put the count up cuz I trust your bias following yeah they'll be put a count I'm not going to my back count I'm not that committed to
06:25:37
Brian Atlasthis C this isn't my following I'm a guest I thought you're a co-host someone gu guest you're one of the producers said you're a regular co-host but you're
06:25:47
Unknown/AmbientI'm a regular guest I'm not the co-host of the show okay not at all I don't know where that idea came from I don't know it all goes to say so
06:25:57
Brian Atlashere's so here's the thing every time I hear this complaint I think that if you were sitting where I was and there was men who were surrounding you right and each one of them had a different opinion
06:26:09
Brian Atlaswould and each one of them wanted to argue with you and engage with you right that if you play the video back and you went wait a second I was actually interrupted way more than I interrupted because the only way that you can handle
06:26:21
Brian Atlasa panel if you go if I go back and watch any of your panels you say you've hosted them I've hosted many panels too no [ __ ] way you don't interrupt people it's not even possible yes but you do it out a really need Jerk It's like you
06:26:33
Brian Atlascan't even get the thought out like and maybe that's just your personality maybe it's same same for you that's fair but I I will again I'm trying to find Common Grounds here eye
06:26:43
Brian Atlasto eye I do agree with you in that women you know if they want to go Toe to Toe they can't get bent out of shape and act like little fragile dandelion right like
06:26:54
Brian Atlasif a guy is or something like this right challenging them going you know so I get that I'll give you you know validation there cuz I know you're looking for it I don't know it sounds like you are but us
06:27:05
Brian Atlasmisogynist sound like he kind of want us to validate your feelings want want to be like no we're not the misogynist no I could give I don't care what you guys being or not being misogynist have literally nothing to do with my life all
06:27:17
Brian Atlasright where were we you guys just got back into mogy he did we were at Luna so I need to find something to talk about for two minutes so uh back to the
06:27:29
Brian Atlastweets oh the body count thing we were talking about the body count thing wait so body count doesn't matter right no into the mic if you get uh
06:27:39
Brian Atlasno if it doesn't matter if it doesn't matter what's your body count I lost count a long time ago but just know I'm tested enough to know that I'm safe and healthy about it which I can't
06:27:53
Brian Atlasnecessarily say for a lot of the people watching so you're right you know we actually did a poll the other week and like I think 77% of our audience
06:28:02
Brian Atlashas G the Lord I believe it it's been it's been thought you were going series we did a survey yeah exactly um so I mean do you have a
06:28:14
Brian Atlasrange explain a lot though Brian do you have a range I'm kidding they are all perfectly clean and have giant penises they all have
06:28:25
Brian Atlasgiant of a woman's vagina the way they talk and act but my body count if you really want to know yeah I probably past a couple hundred couple hundred okay
06:28:35
Brian Atlaslike 200 300 Pokemon got catch them all gota catch them all we're still are we back on the STDs or are we oh my God no
06:28:44
Brian Atlasit's over ,000 I love dick I love dick I like experiencing all kinds of Dick one is better than the other one all of them at the same time I love being a [ __ ]
06:28:55
Brian Atlas[ __ ] I love being a SLO I love [ __ ] on camera it's so fun but the point is like who [ __ ] cares like it's back to the double standard fine it's back to the double standard they reserve the
06:29:07
Brian Atlasright to think however they think about me biological and whatever it says about their character and that's them but me personally I really don't care if you
06:29:17
Brian Atlasthink I'm worthless if you think I'm low value if you think I don't deserve love if you think I'm dirty I really don't give a [ __ ] because neither of you pay
06:29:27
Brian Atlasmy bills and majority of the people watching are the same ones who log off here and go home and jack off to me and my friends so I don't jerk off to tattoo
06:29:37
Brian Atlasporn sorry well that's fine that maybe not you but I'm sorry that was soad I was I was trying for something the same people the same people who want to
06:29:46
Brian Atlasdevalue me and people in my industry are the same people consuming it at the same time and mhm it's if you don't have to
06:29:57
Brian Atlaslike us you don't have to approve of us that's fine you go be a Christian you live with your Christian values because you have that right just like I have the
06:30:07
Brian Atlasright to be a [ __ ] and I'm going to and my mom always said my mom always said when you're good at something never do it for free hey you it's back to again the standard guys do it that's
06:30:18
Brian Atlaslike oh they're the man oh yeah they're a ladies man they can have all the oh they get all the ladies but a a woman is sexy and gets a bunch of men oh
06:30:30
Brian Atlasshe's a a lot of that she's a [ __ ] yeah so I mean I actually I actually like this argument um so I I guess I would agree with you that there's really nothing wrong with tobacco companies
06:30:42
Brian Atlasbecause the people who criticize them are often The Smokers right everything gives you everything nothing wrong I mean same thing how dare an alcoholic you know
06:30:53
Brian Atlascriticize a company which Mass produces alcohol yeah that's I mean that would be hypocritical right I mean people make the choice you imag can you imagine
06:31:05
Brian Atlascan you imagine if a dude was in the hospital bed dying from lung cancer from having smoked his entire life criticizing tobacco companies for making a highly addictive product that they got addicted to what a son of a [ __ ] he
06:31:16
Brian Atlaswould be a hypocrite right what a piece of [ __ ] he would be for doing that how does that have to do with you criticizing me what I do for work I'm sorry I'm sorry is is pornography highly addictive I
06:31:27
Brian Atlasmean what isn't addictive social media video games people like this is pornography highly addictive can be
06:31:37
Brian Atlasnot always not well no smoking isn't always addictive is it is it gives it the fact that like oh it's definitive that's a definitive answer it's not definitive for everyone okay it's
06:31:48
Brian Atlasneither smoking yeah yeah so so again so then we're back to the same criticism if a guy is dying of lung cancer and he's criticizing a tobacco company okay for making this highly addictive product he's a [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] and needs
06:32:01
Brian Atlasto shut up right so you want to criticize porn stars because some wrong with someone's dick how is that is it okay for the guy dying of lung cancer to criticize the tobacco company for making
06:32:11
Brian Atlasthe highly addictive product that they became addicted to or is it not okay for them to do that I mean what was it not their conscious decision
06:32:22
Brian Atlasto use that addictive product knowing it was not to become addicted to it h but that's a risk you take oh right that's a risk you take so then it's perfectly acceptable then right for the tobacco
06:32:34
Brian Atlascompanies to be like shut the [ __ ] up and die you smoked right okay just porn killing people just answer my qu is that okay or
06:32:43
Brian Atlasnot that's subjective yeah I'm asking for your subjective yes who of course it is if you become highly addicted to pornography it can destroy your sex life leads to higher suicide rates all sorts
06:32:56
Brian Atlasof things like this okay so yes I would say yes people people definitely do to same with video games should video games be banned well whether they should they should or they shouldn't it's your
06:33:07
Brian Atlascriticism not my criticism I'm not saying uh for instance that people aren't allowed to criticize the porn industry because they watch pornography that would be insane for my take because people criticize things which are
06:33:19
Brian Atlasthey're addicted to often and we seem to give them a pass on that oh you want to criticize the Tobacco Company because you're dying of lung cancer because you were addicted to cigarettes that's fine right if you want to do that with alcohol that's fine you want to do it with Heroin that's fine you want to do
06:33:32
Brian Atlasit with drugs that's fine but somehow in this particular addictive industry hey you know what those [ __ ] out there those [ __ ] out there they're the same people who watch
06:33:41
Brian Atlasme they are yeah and there are not porn itself is a very taboo industry and it's put in people in the industry and who
06:33:53
Brian Atlassupport the industry have put in so much work to make sure this industry is safe for the people in it all the advances PornHub has taken to make sure that
06:34:04
Brian Atlasthere isn't videos of children and yeah I'm sure that tobacco companies have all sorts of regulations to keep their employees safe it's the external factors that matter who are you affecting
06:34:16
Brian Atlasoutside of your company so if porn was to go away right in with your logic uh since porn is just damaging all these people if porn was to go away and all
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Brian Atlasthe not all every man cuz I know yall love to do that a man
06:34:32
Brian Atlaswho have has the Tendencies or the needs to sexually violate women do you not think porn gives them a healthy Avenue
06:34:43
Brian Atlasso they don't take it out on women you don't think there would be more attacks against women in fact I think to just disappear I think that because corn for instance in this in this instance they
06:34:55
Brian Atlasmake corn specifically tailored to that fetish it actually enables men to live that fantasy out and without Haring anyone no because many of the people who get caught inside of those acts when
06:35:07
Brian Atlasasked why did you get involved in these acts oh I took it from fantasy to visualization through corn and then I begin to carry out personally anyone I know who does prefer that genre isn't
06:35:20
Brian Atlasactually looking at that genre and they're actually Distributing very illegal CH CP okay I definitely have to move on now all right um if you want to get on the
06:35:32
Brian Atlastopic talk about it but but not okay um Nick let's do the next tweet next
06:35:41
Brian Atlastweet next tweet uh men are pathetic bro ELO yes this was after a man um I can
06:35:52
Brian Atlasgive you the you know this this was after a man who got caught lying to me and another girl and another girl tried to save his ass by saying I sexually
06:36:04
Brian Atlasharassed and assaulted him which is why he [ __ ] me which we both know is a lie that's where that tweet came from so he's that man is a bad man but you kind
06:36:15
Brian Atlasof just said men plural all essentially my apologies for not losing his full legal name I'm I'm super offended wait pull it
06:36:27
Brian Atlasback up Nick men are pathetic bro like that's kind of like like if men said women are pathetic wouldn't wouldn't that mean say that but that's fine do you know not you
06:36:38
Brian Atlasspecifically sure yeah some men say it but can you just I don't know if you're able to scoot into the table a little bit just so we can get you closer to the microphone this is fine um
06:36:50
Brian Atlasso wouldn't it be like misogynistic to say women are pathetic like would that be misogynistic if you want to label me a misandrist that's fine are you are you a
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Brian Atlasmisandrist sometimes I can lean that way yeah and you you don't think that's like a defect you don't think
06:37:12
Brian Atlasyou're bigotry is a defect I mean well I don't consider myself a misogynist you seem to have no qualms
06:37:22
Brian Atlaswith in some instances considering yourself a misandrist which I find I have troubling I suppose well you that's fine you can find it troubling however I have with my person exper very troubling
06:37:35
Brian Atlasso troubling my personal experiences I have more have had more bad experiences with men than good so if you want to go off my personal
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Brian Atlasexperience a lot of the men I've met have been inherently vindictive evil violent sexual predators you know a lot in my
06:37:59
Brian Atlasexperience I don't I don't know it's not every man definitely not every man that's super weird though because then why would you go into an industry say
06:38:07
Brian Atlasyou love being in the industry of of of engaging with these violent predatory men because in this industry yeah unlike
06:38:18
Brian Atlasthe day today lives you guys live the men in our industry actually love us support us and uplift us and fight for us
06:38:30
Brian Atlasum okay next tweet try to get through there's quite a few so pick one uh actually W just so it's in your words can I just have you read it yep those men are weak with or
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Brian Atlaswithout porn weak men don't have [ __ ] to do with porn weak men are a result of this country and the patriarchal propaganda shov down their throats their entire lives Banning porn will only make those same weak men lash out with sexual
06:38:55
Brian Atlasviolence against women I think maybe focus on the Banning of roie Wade instead of consenting adults who film pornography what I just said make a smaller pleas because this is in response to candas aason tweets where
06:39:06
Brian Atlasshe says band pornography it is psychological weapon intended to weaken our men you can put us back I guess that's fine yeah um okay I mean there's
06:39:16
Brian Atlasa lot there um basically everything I just said in the last couple minutes I'm actually just going to for the sake of time I'm going to skip to the next tweet but it was an interesting one I saw uh men in their late 20s out here dating in
06:39:30
Brian Atlas[ __ ] girls who just practically graduated high school in the last year or two weird how about you in your own words you you read it go
06:39:38
Brian Atlasahead um this tweet in specific I know you guys love to say oh well you said men you didn't specify which man wait
06:39:49
Brian Atlascan you just read it this is can you just read the Tweet men in their late 20s out here dating and [ __ ] girls who just practically graduated high school in the last year or two weird
06:40:01
Brian Atlasvery weird can you hide this for a second Nick and then the followup with this bottom one these men be 27 [ __ ] 19 20y olds like what did y'all possibly have in common okay um I'm just curious
06:40:14
Brian Atlasthough do you have an issue like I know that there's like for example male porn stars who are in their late 20s 30s who get paired up with 18 19 20y old women
06:40:25
Brian Atlasfor scenes do you have objections there but that man isn't building a relationship
06:40:32
Brian Atlaswith that young naive uneducated girl to try and manipulate her or build her into the perfect woman it's a scene you get