Andrew Wilson vs. SUPER Feminists! Misandrist? She HATES Brian?! 300+ Body Count? | Dating Talk #183
Date: 2024-07-31
Duration: 8h 41m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Taylor Furber(guest)
SPEAKER_04Richard (audience)(audience)
SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_09Brianna(guest)
SPEAKER_10Alex Kane(guest)
SPEAKER_11Delaney(guest)
SPEAKER_12TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_13Liza(guest)
Key Moments
00:05:49
IntroLuna Baby introduces herself: 30, Vegas, social media and porn. Adult industry 10 years.
“hello I'm Luna baby I am 30 um I currently live in Vegas grew up in LA and my occupation I do social media and porn”
00:06:32
IntroLiza introduces herself: 28, Isla Vista from Chicago, singer-songwriter. Sings original song chorus.
“hi I'm Liza I'm 28 I live in Isa Vista but I just moved from Chicago um I'm a singer songwriter”
00:09:19
IntroAlex Kane introduces herself: 22, Las Vegas, adult film.
“Kane I'm 22 I live in Las Vegas and I do adult film”
00:09:43
IntroDelaney introduces herself: 27, Santa Barbara, former property manager, entering medical industry.
“I'm Delaney I'm 27 and I am uh been in Santa Barbara the last 10 years I'm originally from San Diego”
00:10:53
IntroTaylor Furber introduces herself: 33, Nashville, red carpet reporter, podcast host Talk to Me Taylor.
“hi everybody I'm Taylor furber 33 the grandma on this... I am uh formerly in La I'm in Nashville now I was a red carpet reporter”
00:11:26
IntroBrianna introduces herself: 21, UCSB, psych and brain sciences, from Riverside.
“hi everyone my name is Brianna I'm 21 I'm originally from Riverside but now I'm here”
00:13:08
IntroLayla introduces: 30, Northern Arizona, off-grid glamping PM, No Agenda EP.
“I'm laa I'm 30 I'm from Northern Arizona and I'm a property manager for off-grid glamour camping airbnbs”
00:13:26
IntroAndrew Wilson introduces himself: host of The Crucible, political analyst, debate university creator.
“my name is Andrew Wilson the host of The Crucible the fastest growing debate Channel on YouTube”
01:33:42
ControversyLiza expresses fear over Project 2025 and reciprocal IVF rights; she and Delaney considered leaving the US.
“especially as someone who wants to have children through reciprocal IVF which is specifically detailed in that document”
01:49:05
OtherLiza reveals she has had two abortions; emotional disclosure about wanting to be a mother.
“I had to have an abortion because of the situation I was in as a teenager being abused and being threatened with homelessness”
02:03:54
OtherDelaney discloses past sex work/escorting during relationship with Liza; Liza supported her through it.
“I used to be a sex worker um and I was a sex worker that involved sleeping with um men um and Liza was we were in a relationship for a period during that time”
02:56:33
ControversyAndrew Wilson presents force doctrine argument: men could remove women's rights by force if they chose.
“if men collectively said that you couldn't do that you couldn't do that right at this point I mean if they imprisoned me for it”
03:07:07
OtherSelf-ratings round begins: Brian asks everyone to rate looks 1-10 (can't pick 7).
“going around the table starting with you rate your looks on scale of 1 to 10 can't pick seven”
03:35:30
ControversyLiza and Delaney confront Brian about being combative/misogynist; Brian defends his hosting approach.
“I just found somebody who's not very respectful of women”
03:57:27
OtherBear or man question posed. Liza and Delaney both choose bear due to personal trauma with men.
“would you rather be stuck in the woods with a random man or random bear starting with you go ahead”
05:29:00
TopicLiza/Delaney mini-departure moment after political debate gets too heated; Brian redirects to other guests.
“we'd be happy to host an actual debate on it but um thank you so... we need to move it on”
05:55:18
OtherDelaney reveals she was previously a sex worker/escort and did OnlyFans to pay bills for a year.
“it did pay all my bills for a year it paid my fiance's bills it made my dreams come true I mean I don't regret what I did”
06:17:29
QuoteBody counts revealed: Luna says ~200-300; Alex Kane says over 1,000.
“my body count if you really want to know yeah I probably past a couple hundred couple hundred okay like 200-300”
06:19:04
QuoteAlex Kane states body count over 1,000.
“over 1,000 I love dick I love being a slut”
06:40:03
QuoteLuna defends body count double standard; argues critics are the same people consuming her content.
“who cares like it's back to the double standard fine... the same people who want to devalue me and people in my industry are the same people consuming it”
07:55:21
QuoteTaylor Furber explains her power game with male friends: challenges them to grab her ass by end of dinner.
“I will put it on the table and be like okay you know I Dare You by the time we leave this restaurant like grab my butt”
Topics Discussed
00:00:15
Show open / announcements / debate university promo
Brian opens show, channel announcements, promotes debateuniversity.com verbal combat course with Andrew Wilson.
00:05:41
Guest introductions
All 7 guests + Andrew introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Luna Baby sings; Alex Kane intro; Delaney; Taylor Furber; Brianna; Layla; Andrew Wilson.
00:14:20
World War I/II trivia round
Brian asks panel to name WWI/WWII years and Allied/Axis powers. Mixed results.
00:18:18
Relationship status round
Each guest shares relationship status, longest relationship, and single period. Includes discussion of dating civilians while in adult film industry (Luna, Alex Kane). Liza reveals engagement to Delaney; Brianna reveals virgin status.
00:51:07
Feminist / patriarchy debate
Extended debate on feminism definition, dismantling patriarchy/whiteness, male vs female rights. Liza and Delaney as primary feminist advocates vs Andrew Wilson debating. Topics: DEI, meritocracy, Kamala Harris, female representation, women's suffrage.
01:30:00
Bodily autonomy: abortion vs military draft
Andrew Wilson debates bodily autonomy — abortion rights vs Selective Service (draft) registration. Liza/Delaney argue pro-choice; Andrew argues draft is equivalent bodily autonomy restriction. Both agree draft should be equal or abolished.
01:33:42
Project 2025 / US freedom debate
Liza and Delaney express concerns about Project 2025 (reciprocal IVF referenced). Andrew Wilson argues US is the freest country. Discussion on LGBTQ rights, abortion policy.
01:40:30
Reparations / dismantling whiteness discussion
Brian asks who owes reparations. Liza/Delaney on dismantling whiteness systems. DEI debate, Japan immigration analogy, Israel mentioned.
01:45:00
Abortion personal stories
Personal disclosures about abortion experiences from multiple guests. Discussion on trauma, shame, lack of aftercare, pro-choice vs pro-life. Religious debate on when life begins.
02:06:54
Suicide / euthanasia discussion
Discussion stems from bodily autonomy debate. Liza's position on allowing adult children to make end-of-life decisions. Growing up Jehovah's Witness reference.
02:19:03
Male suicide rate statistics
TTS brings up men dying by suicide at 3.85x rate of women (CDC stat). Brief panel discussion on why men commit suicide at higher rates.
03:07:07
Self-ratings round (looks 1-10)
Brian asks each guest to rate their looks 1-10 (can't pick 7). Then asks what 1,000 men would rate them. Comparison to Pamela Anderson in her peak.
03:10:10
Will you be better-looking in 10-20-30 years? debate
Discussion on aging, Botox, breast implants, wrinkles. Most women say yes (in different ways). Andrew challenges with logic about magic wand aging.
03:57:27
Bear or man survival scenario
Standard Whatever question: stuck in woods alone with random man or random bear. Liza and Delaney choose bear (due to trauma with men). Others split. Extended debate on male victimization risk statistics, force doctrine, women's self-sufficiency.
04:43:06
Victimhood hierarchy debate
Discussion on whether victimization can be compared/ranked. Convenience store robbery scenario vs assault example. Liza argues no perfect victim; Andrew argues levels of victimization exist.
04:52:18
Ukraine war / men barred from leaving
Andrew uses Ukraine war example: men 18-60 barred from leaving country, women could flee. Discussion on who is more victimized in war.
05:05:00
Women's self-sufficiency without men debate
Andrew Wilson argues women need men (force doctrine). Liza argues she needs tools not men. Discussion on infrastructure, construction, physical strength differences, fire making.
05:12:00
Force doctrine / physical power dynamic
Andrew Wilson presents force doctrine argument: men's physical dominance means women's rights are ultimately granted by men. Feminist guests dispute.
06:17:29
Body count debate / double standard
Body count revealed (Luna ~200-300, Alex Kane 1000+). Debate on double standard for promiscuous women vs men. STD testing practices among sex workers discussed.
06:18:00
Sex worker debate: porn addiction / industry criticism
Luna and Alex Kane defend porn industry. Andrew analogizes porn criticism to tobacco company criticism by addicts. Discussion of PornHub safety improvements, CP concerns.
07:55:21
Taylor's relationship dynamic / monogamy philosophy
Taylor Furber describes her unconventional relationship approach: flirting with male friends, issuing 'ass-grab challenges' as power play. Partner is twice her age, non-possessive. Brian and Andrew challenge the logic.
Transcript
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00:57:18
Brian AtlasI love strong men let's go uh the whole smash the patriarch patriarchy thing in my mind has just gone way too far so you're in favor of the patriarchy yes me saying smash the thing is no so
00:57:31
Brian Atlasyou're neutral on the patriarchy I acknowledge that the patriarchy has been a system set in place for years and years and years and we're still dismantling it now however I don't dwell
00:57:42
Brian Atlason that I I focus on we [ __ ] have kicked ass we have more way to go but let's focus on what's ahead and keep you know that's right oh I got I got Andrew to snap aoo okay my my success for today
00:57:55
Brian Atlasyou do want to dismantle the patriarchy though sure well hold on I just think dwelling on it is delling but you said you object to smashing the patriarchy how's that any different than dismantling the no no no they're the
00:58:05
Brian Atlassame thing I'm just saying like you just don't like the word smash or I mean I like I like a good but you said you against the Smash Burger I was going to say Smash and I was like yeah so you said you're against the whole smash the
00:58:18
Brian Atlaspatriarchy thing but you're also in favor of dismanteling the patriarchy how are these different you guys are so funny I see what you do I see what you do here can you just actually engage and say inad of like having a meta conversation yes that's what I'm doing
00:58:30
Brian Atlasright now okay so you see what am I actually hold on no I'll engage in The Meta conversation but you're in favor of the dismantling of the patriarchy how is that not I get how that seems contradictory for sure is it not
00:58:41
Brian Atlascontradictory no it is I said I am against dwelling on the fact that people are obsessed with the patriarchy has us under our thumb and men are the reason for everything and the mail gazes and
00:58:54
Brian Atlasthis this and this like I said I knowledge they're the systems that have been put in place it's not totally equal yet however why focus on that when we can focus on all how how far we've come
00:59:06
Brian Atlaswhat women can do now that we couldn't even you know make a dent in however many years ago and move forward like sitting in the past doesn't serve us that's what I mean by that and I feel like that's anyone with common sense
00:59:16
Briannawould get that okay all right yeah um uh I would I think there's multiple ways why people Define feminism but the way I've always been told is like feminism to me is like women
00:59:26
Brian Atlasequality and like supporting women in their decisions okay all right first wave was the right to vote I don't think well okay that's what the 19th amendment
00:59:37
Brian Atlasis to women voting I don't think women should have the right to vote but you know take yeah the views the views exess why though to
00:59:48
Brian Atlasemotional we're too emotional are men not emotional to because we there overwhelming majority of females oh feel yeah interesting yeah so the views expressed by the panelists do not
01:00:02
Brian Atlasnecessarily reflect the views of the whatever Channel emotion is a biological thing killer of seral donated $200 can you answer this about feminism
01:00:13
Richard (audience)what has the idea SL movement SL monarchy done for society in a positive way pink shirt God is that you also Define patriarchy and misandrist for me
01:00:25
Brian Atlashe's a Brave man he's a Pioneer thank you Killa good to see you um did we get I think we got the answers from everybody we'll go into killas we still need to do relationship status so could you answer this about feminism what has
01:00:37
Brian Atlasthe idea movement done for for society in a positive way short answers please go ahead
01:00:45
Brian Atlasum feminism got us roie Wade which now that's gone okay all right what about you um I think it just has brought me a lot more
01:00:57
Brian AtlasSecurity in who I am as a woman uh honestly if we're just thinking about that I feel much more connected to oh my grid One Motorsports donated
01:01:06
TTS/Donations$200 I am the patriarchy and loudmouth py knows nothing of my work do women have any rights that men do not Grant to them oh he's a brave decent he's a Pioneer all right we'll get around the
01:01:19
Brian Atlastable on the first question then we'll go to this okay what about you um well I just think that's part of the problem is I don't think I should be granted anything by a man I do think there are
01:01:29
Brian Atlasnatural rights as a human that we all have or should have and that we do I do think we've made so many strides but again feminism to me is about more Community it's doesn't NE I do think
01:01:41
Brian Atlasit's about bringing up the matriarchy but I don't think it has to be one or the other I think it's about finding a way that we can work together and you can't hate men into loving you know loving women like which I'm not saying
01:01:54
Brian Atlasmen all men hate women but you know what percentage I don't know a percentage I don't know I don't interact with enough men to believe that let's get short answers from everybody if we can the question again sorry uh what's like no
01:02:07
Brian Atlaswe already did that how feminism oh how it's improved my life or like how's it been positive for Society for you I mean I don't know I personally think it's good that everyone can vote
01:02:18
Brian Atlaswell everyone that's like not a felon or whatever the other reasons you wouldn't be able to vote are but I think that equal rights are good um I mean it's to be blatantly obvious look at the DraStic shift the country
01:02:31
Brian Atlashas experienced in the last couple weeks since Biden dropped out and Kamala took over I mean the hope is insane I I can feel the Hope everywhere um and it's
01:02:41
Brian Atlasit's seeing a woman and particularly a woman of color um actually being able to raise that like that astronomical amount of money like so quickly and seeing that people do like the the hope is
01:02:53
Brian Atlasinfectious and it's changing Society in a really positive way I honestly think I haven't felt this light and joyful in quite a while is is it because she's a woman or because she's a person of color
01:03:03
Brian Atlasit's I I think it's both I think it's both but I mean I I do I mean and I mean this in the kindest way but it breaks my heart that there are women that think that so lowly of ourselves that we
01:03:14
Brian Atlasshouldn't be able to make decisions in this country the fact that like um K is I mean listen to her speak like she she's like she's so much more
01:03:23
Brian Atlasintelligent and what oh no yeah she is and so and I totally and as a feminist I respect your ability to be able to laugh at me like that I'm
01:03:34
Brian Atlasyou uh it breaks my heart that you it breaks my heart you feel that you don't deserve the ability to make choices what about her stupid dances though do you like the stupid dancing I think they're
01:03:45
Brian Atlasfunny why are you mad that she dances I mean looks [ __ ] but she doesn't yeah Trump looks like a I I mean I'm not going to this is a thing kamla doesn't attack Trump looking stupid she attacks
01:03:58
Brian Atlasyes she does she attacks him all the time like how nonstop she's gone after his look her dances it sounds like you're you don't have any the fact that she blew her way to the top the fact that
01:04:09
Brian Atlasshe got on her knees for Willie Brown and sucked his [ __ ] to get into office how do you really oh wow that's a real female of power it hey come here Willie come here Willie I got to get myself a
01:04:20
Brian Atlasposition is what made her do that in the first place I'm incred I mean like proud she sucked her way to the top I am I am incredibly proud of of her cuz
01:04:32
Brian Atlasshe's extremely intelligent and like she's actually speaking [ __ ] that makes sense we don't want to go back we don't want to go back to question we're we're
01:04:42
Brian Atlasmoving forward wait I have a question though being she was able to secure the uh nominee as the uh as the for she's
01:04:51
Brian Atlasrunning for president right without well she wasn't actually The People's Choice right she just Biden dropped out there wasn't like a uh she was just option two she's four that is
01:05:04
Brian Atlastrue mhm like do you think she would have been the nominee no and that's because of the way that the patriarchal system is set up she wouldn't have been the nominee like the only way Democrats is there is there a patriarchy among
01:05:16
Brian AtlasDemocrats yes oh totally hello I mean the last election the vast majority of liberal white women voted for Trump like I mean no they didn't yes they did yes
01:05:28
Brian Atlasthey did pleas pull please pull up youre pull up liberal white women voted for no liberal white women did not vot the moderate and a lot of liberals lean more they register as Democrats but they're more moderate and they lean a little
01:05:40
Brian Atlasmore conservative but on paper they're they they registering is no none of that's true so here's here's what here's what is true so I'll correct some of this liberal women especially liberal
01:05:50
Brian Atlaswhite women most definitely did not show up to vote for Trump women women swung towards the Democrat vote they always swing towards the Democrat vote especially liberal women who are usually college educated so college educated
01:06:03
Brian Atlaswomen overwhelmingly V more white women voted for Trump in the last election than they did in the first one that's true what does that have to do with your claim though your claim was that liberal women were voting for Trump because a lot of these women are claiming to be
01:06:16
Brian Atlasmoderate Democrats and then they're saying that Trump is is the Lesser voting the way their husbands vote that's what I'm saying and that's what's so different about comma is that like for once those women those like stay-at-home mom like housewife women
01:06:29
Brian Atlasfor once are going the polls this year and I truly believe they're going to vote for what they want they're not just going to follow their husbands for once they actually are going to One Motorsports donated
01:06:38
Unknown/Ambient$200 seriously heals up haris intelligent that has to be the dumbest thing I have heard today such a role his way to the top
01:06:50
Brian Atlastop please reconsider Your Life Choices all right grid one thank you for it by the way G we will get to your question we just got to get all the way around here let's bring it back to uh one thing
01:07:00
Brian Atlasthat feminism has done positive for society that women are no longer second class citizens like in some other countries to keep it I know we're trying to keep it moving so to keep it yes all right um I definitely think feminism has
01:07:13
Briannabrought like opened up a lot of opportunities for women and not just that but it also brought like a sense of belonging and I see like multiple women being uh achieving for certain careers
01:07:23
Brian Atlashas also been super inspiring to like those around our community so yeah I have no idea all right and then here we're going to get to grid ones so actually let's just finish relationship
01:07:35
Brian Atlasstatus then we're going to get to ones so okay relationship status uh I think we left off with you relation well you guys are together so same just engaged
01:07:46
Brian Atlasyeah engaged my longest relationship was six years six years okay all right I'm in a relationship um a little bit of a backstory we were best friends 9 10
01:07:58
Brian Atlasyears um we've been a couple for the last 2 years and a little bit out of the box to make it spicy he's twice my age he's the best such a good guy how old is
01:08:09
Brian Atlashe now you're asking me to give away my age well she said twice twice her age she said she was no no no he's not that old he's he's he's late 50 late okay late about
01:08:21
Brian Atlaslongest relationship um you know probably this one but usually I'm in the two-ish year range okay yeah so longest was two-ish years is this your longest this would be
01:08:34
Brian Atlasthe long yeah okay M what about do you flirt with other dudes sure do and he doesn't care he is not he's like baby do you like at the end of the day I'm yours you're mine be in your power girl would
01:08:46
Brian Atlasyou be fine with him flirting with other women okay all right what about you uh I'm single and I have not been in a committed relationship ever ever I'm Pi uh what's what about what's the longest
01:08:56
Brian Atlasperiod of time you've uh dated somebody I haven't been in a committed relationship wait what was your question okay so when I say date this can include
01:09:04
Brian Atlasall the way from like a one night stand to uh friends with Lise donated $200 thank you har these women are so delusion one has to wonder if they
01:09:15
Brian Atlasbelieve the garbage they spew why are they so mad all right Harry L thank you thank you very much thank you uh so you've been single um so you're are you
01:09:25
Brian Atlasa virgin yes I am oh okay so you really haven't okay you haven't done anything all uh have you been on a date yeah I have have you H been on multiple dates with the same guy yeah I've been in a
01:09:37
Unknown/Ambientsituationship before you're in a situation ship uh are you waiting until marriage or sorry are you waiting until marriage uh no I just haven't been in a serious committed relationship to like have that connection with and so you
01:09:49
Brian Atlaswant that before you have caral knowledge okay and are you um You Waiting For Love or just the right guy just the right guy okay so what's like the longest period of time you've you
01:10:01
Brian Atlassaid you were in a situationship how long did that last like 3 months three and a half months yeah three months okay and uh why did that end um it was the classic he wasn't ready for relationship
01:10:14
Unknown/Ambientso you wanted a relationship I did yeah and it wasn't that communication wasn't clear and how often would you guys hang out was it long distance or no um he was
01:10:23
Brian Atlasmy neighbor okay so yeah close dist um and uh so you wanted a relationship he didn't M did was he aware that you had
01:10:34
Brian Atlasnot like had a boyfriend before never like first anything really with a guy no that wasn't mentioned okay yeah
01:10:44
Briannauh would had he said yes to you wanting a relationship with him would you have slept with him um I definitely think it would
01:10:55
Briannainvest more time in him before that okay so I can like be sure of him but yeah I see okay and you are you going into your senior year I am you be okay uh besides
01:11:07
Briannahim any other situationships um no not really I just been really busied mostly all right yeah and uh why why do you want to wait um I don't know I guess like all my
01:11:20
Unknown/Ambientlife like there has been opportunities but I just like I'm a very picky person and I haven't really found like the the person that checks all my boxes I guess what are your boxes um someone who's
01:11:31
Unknown/Ambientgoal oriented knows how to treat a woman um it was really smart committed in school when you say knows how to treat a woman what do you mean like so shows a
01:11:40
Briannalot of respect and um I'd say someone who treats me who's a gentleman gentleman um can't think of um just like prioritizes me but not like too much
01:11:53
Brian Atlasthat's still like still cares about his own life and his own priorities okay I'd say like healthy relationship mostly any like physical traits that you're picky about high anything like that I'm
01:12:06
Brian Atlaspreferably High um like taller than me sure yeah now you said treats you like a gentleman treats you well does that include like do you want more traditional treatment like you want him
01:12:16
Brian Atlasto be like taking you out provide like going on dates paying for dates um I say like not all the time like I'm sotally will want a guy to pay for a first date
01:12:27
Brian Atlasno okay well checks out with the whole feminist thing uh it doesn't count Brian paying for dates no or getting over I'm mostly feminist not completely but well no you
01:12:39
Brian Atlassaid you're fine you'd be fine going 5050 on the first right okay yeah that's uh okay yeah relationship status I am taken I've been in a relationship for 5 years now and we that's my longest
01:12:51
Brian Atlasrelationship now all right rock and roll monogamous too okay we've got every relationship status forever you're pure
01:13:01
Brian Atlasyeah don't try to wreck it don't try to wreck it don't corrupt her if you like I'm just curious if you met the right guy and you knew like super early on that you like really like
01:13:14
Brian Atlasthis guy would you still wait or would you just like cuz I know some girls it's like even if they're a virgin it's like they don't they just want to wait for the right guy but once they find the right guy they don't really have any qualms
01:13:27
Brian Atlaswith like they could it could be relatively quick in terms of timeline of hooking up or for you is like even if I find the right guy I would want to wait a couple months till we're more solid
01:13:39
Brian Atlasyeah I definitely want to wait a couple months all right we have a uh hold on actually before I get into that we got to okay we'll go to Twitch really quick guys go to twitch.tv/ whatever drops to follow drops the prime so twitch.tv
01:13:51
Brian Atlaswhatever that is our Instagram you can also that that's a whole bunch of other tabs okay all right guys go to twitch.tv/ whatever drops a follow drops a prime sub guys it's been one M minute
01:14:03
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01:14:12
Brian Atlasthe chat yo guys Brian loves pink bro how you going bro dude how you going to do that man yo James thank you for the prime appreciate it uh no mercy thank you for the follow thank you for the
01:14:23
Brian Atlasfollows guys drop a follow Prime thank you guys okay uh so we need to do grid one's question which actually hold on but no no no hold on can we get back to killer of cereal hold
01:14:35
Brian Atlason we're going to do this one and then Cal donated $200 my new favorite question for the panel most embarrassing moment on a date
01:14:45
Brian Atlasy Brian thank you man appreciate it uh so is that one that came through earlier uh if you can keep your answer Readers Digest plots not
01:14:55
Brian Atlasopsis 10 20 seconds if you can most embarrassing date story I haven't really been on any embarrassing dates St well what about like most embarrassing uh
01:15:05
Brian Atlassituation to happen while you were in a romantic Andor sexual context with a man it's easy um oh my
01:15:20
Brian AtlasGod trying to think of one specifically that with the work I do there's a lot
01:15:29
Brian Atlaspeopleart they're not cleaned up I wasn't thinking I wasn't thinking necessarily like during sex I meant more so like you're you're spending time you're spending time with a man uhhuh
01:15:41
Brian Atlaswho you have a romantic or sexual connection with okay yeah so I I think like when people think date they're thinking like a formal like I want to take you to
01:15:52
Brian Atlasdinner it can be like you're hanging out at your Place type thing I honestly don't have anything embarrassing I'm very myself everywhere I go so there's very little that I can do that's
01:16:05
Brian Atlasactually embarrassing I'm I take pride in being a little weirdo it's F all right what about you the only thing I can think of is I one of the four first times I went over to my ex's house um I
01:16:17
Alex Kaneleft the stove on for 8 hours once I left was there fire no we were all safe but I don't really have any embarrassing date stories but I mean I also have
01:16:28
Alex Kaneplenty of like sex stories that are pretty wild there was one time that I like had an asthma attack while I was like going down on a dude and I like I like went too far down and then I
01:16:40
Brian Atlascoughed and then I was like and then I was like and I just ran away and like yeah but that's not like a date that's more like a hookup stories no
01:16:50
Brian Atlasthat that hookup it all counts what about you um I it was racking my brain for a good one I it's it's a client it wasn't like a boyfriend but I was meeting a man with the intention of having sex with him and uh when we met
01:17:03
Brian Atlaswe met at a Starbucks and he spilled his coffee all over himself like and he just got so shaky and embarrassed cuz he never met and I was trying to be you know nice and laugh it off but he was so embarrassed he just left and I never
01:17:15
Brian Atlastalked to him again it was really awkward um but that's the only thing I can really cuz same I'm very much myself like if I do something stupid I just laugh about it I don't really thought of one I'm racking my brain I'm sorry I'm a
01:17:26
Brian Atlaslittle boring in this department I was never a big dater yeah what do you mean I was always like kind of like I was Solo or relationship kind of gal but I'm never found he does like this it can be within
01:17:39
Briannalike an embarrassing yeah I'm sorry okay F Point um I can't think of
01:17:49
Briannaanything too embarrassing but I guess I was longboarding with this guy and like fell nice that was Prett yeah pretty much blooded up no just like okay what
01:18:01
Brian Atlasabout you uh I didn't realize I could have called my boyfriend my boyfriend in the very beginning actually and I found that out like a couple weeks ago five
01:18:11
Brian Atlasyears I remember one now that's he he asked me if I'm an idiot yeah I am I do have one I remember now yeah go for it
01:18:20
Brian Atlasjust needed some time for it to get back to me okay so I was like maybe 18 19 20 around there um and I went to have it
01:18:31
Brian Atlaswas just like a casual hookup we're in the same friend group we would just sleep together sometimes and we were drinking and we had chicken nuggets
01:18:40
Brian Atlasright before Oh no yeah so you know Mama did not raise a quitter so kind of just go
01:18:52
Brian Atlasand some of the nuggies came back up and you just slurp and going that's [ __ ] [Music] disgusting okay it wasn't necessarily
01:19:03
Brian Atlasembarrassing he was like oh [ __ ] yeah so it works all right how come Andrew doesn't have to answer well we've this question's been posed to us quite a few
01:19:13
Brian Atlastimes can answer go ahead okay so one time I was on a date with a chick and uh she went back to my house with me I was like I don't know 19 or 20
01:19:25
Brian Atlasand I was I was living with my parents at the time and my sister and she came out and said oh hi how are you and she had her cat and the girl said yay a kitty let me pet the kitty and my sister said okay and hand it to her so she pets
01:19:36
Brian Atlasit and then for reasons I don't understand threw the cat to my sister oh my God cat went crazy went ballistic started shredding my sister she panicked threw the cat off of her which landed
01:19:47
Brian Atlasback on the date started shredding the date and uh that was the end of that date really young JD Vance cat it didn't work out good cat lady
01:19:57
Brian Atlasstory yes we got it my oh my young this is Young Andrew by the way a look at that look at that handsome look at this guy there he is look at him all right
01:20:08
Brian Atlasokay uh so we have a couple chats here we have did that make you happy that I told the story equality now your turn cuz you didn't answer feel boring in
01:20:20
Brian Atlasthat department come on be a galarian about it if it comes to me okay you'll be I'm not going to linger on this uh racist Ronnie what the [ __ ] okay question for panel do you believe in
01:20:31
Brian Atlasdismantling whiteness despite your answer well we we can only do like really one question per message so we'll do the first one do you believe in dismantling whiteness go ahead um can it
01:20:42
Brian Atlasbe a combination to answer all of it in short context sure okay I feel like no certain race should have superiority it
01:20:51
Brian Atlasshould just be equal for everybody there's no reason for One race to Reign Superior have more
01:21:01
Brian AtlasAuthority have more respect or value so it's not about dismantling whiteness it's about dismantling the
01:21:12
Brian Atlasideas that have been built throughout the years of this country existing that white people are superior in this so you think that that's the case currently that's we're what we're
01:21:23
Brian Atlasattempting to do I don't know so are white you're saying white people are superior not all not all I I I say that there's some white people out there who
01:21:33
Brian Atlasbelieve they are and that's you know you can't say all of them because I have plenty of white friends who don't think that way all right um I don't think you can dis I don't think they mean
01:21:45
Brian Atlasdismantling whiteness cuz I can't change that I'm white um that's not something I can dismantle but I can I do think there is a system in place again I said
01:21:54
Brian Atlasearlier I don't think you can uh work on dismantling patriarchy and all of that stuff without dismantling racism I think they're intertwined and I think it's again the
01:22:05
Brian Atlasmain issue is equality in that area um so yeah I just think that I personally as a white person can do work to see everyone for their experiences and not
01:22:16
Brian Atlasputting myself in their shoes as me but TR truly having empathy and looking at people from their perspective in their life mhm yeah what about you yeah like she said I can't like dismantle my own
01:22:29
Alex Kanewhiteness like I can't change anything about that but like uh Luna mentioned like I think a lot of like equality Vibe like it's not really like dismantling it I think it's more just like validating
01:22:41
Brian Atlasothers experiences and bringing them up as well you know what about you um yes of course and I think dismantling whiteness is kind of a conservative Buzz phrase to sound offensive like when we
01:22:53
Brian Atlassay dismantling whiteness no one's talking about stopping being white obviously like no [ __ ] that's why we can't control that we're talking about dismantling the systems that continue to perpetuate putting white people first
01:23:05
Brian Atlasthat's all that means and yes we do need to continue to dismantle that we're we've been doing that but we're not done I have a followup question on that but I'll let the rest of the panelist answer go ahead I will say similarly
01:23:15
Brian Atlasdismantling whiteness that's a first for me yeah that's a new one um you know again what you guys were saying I folks can't help that they're white on the
01:23:26
Brian Atlasother end of it I think you know Dei and all of that has like I said with all the master patriar it's just gone too far so at the end of the day it's common sense like racism ain't cool it ain't the vibe
01:23:38
Brian Atlasbut I think and what is Dei uh diversity Equity inclusion MH you know what ti is I'm asking you just want diversity equity and inclusion thank you
01:23:48
Brian Atlasfor the pop quiz um but yeah what are your objections to Dei I think I believe in meritocracy I don't believe in you know filling quotas or putting people in certain positions
01:24:02
Briannabecause of how they look I think that's crazy okay yeah um I also believe it's more about dismantling the system and how there's a lot of like prej Prejudice prejudices um in that so I do believe
01:24:12
Brian Atlasthere's a lot of progress that needs to be done okay wasn't Camala picked because she's a black woman to be his R like the running mate originally she's not black though I know she she she's she's half black half Indian that that
01:24:26
Brian Atlasshe is a black Indian you guys L to say it would be afro Indian yeah that's up to that's up to debate okay um also have you heard of the
01:24:38
Richard (audience)bnwo is a move the black New World Order they want to exterminate white people we can't get into that really [ __ ] I didn't know that all right um so I did
01:24:49
Brian Atlashave one question though so if we like look at other countries that have for example A different race as the majority take for China for example do you think
01:24:59
Brian Atlasthat uh there ought to be a movement in China for example to equalize uh to to equalize the racial representation in that country um to be quite honest with you I'm not familiar
01:25:12
Brian Atlaswith the culture of living in China it's like 99% Chinese I'm I'm sure it is 99% Chinese what I'm saying is I'm not sure I don't live in their society I don't know if their society is geared in such a way that if you're not Chinese that
01:25:23
Brian Atlasyou have less advantages in the society I don't live I can only speak to the society I live in and I can say white people do have advantages in this Society in China I don't live there but
01:25:34
Brian Atlassure if if it's set up so that that the people who are like Chinese or they get way more advantages than people who happen to be black but live in China then sure there should be one there too but I don't live there so I'd rather
01:25:46
Brian Atlasspeak about what I'm educated about and I am educated about where I live that's fair I think to get at the heart of of Brian's question I'll ask a different one in the same vein so Japan has a staunch immigration policy they don't want people who are
01:25:59
Brian Atlasnot Japanese to immigrate in Japan they want to keep it majority Japanese mhm is that a wrong wrong wrongful policy from your perspective I mean the policy in itself yes however I would need to
01:26:12
Brian Atlasunderstand why that I don't know why that because they want to keep it Japanese that's the motivation it's just simply because they want pure Japanese blood then 100% that's wrong so then you would apply the same logic to Israel I
01:26:23
Brian Atlasmean oh we're not I'm just asking I mean I know we weren't allowed to talk we not we're not going to dive into it I'm just asking You' apply the same logic there I I would apply the same logic that if
01:26:33
Brian Atlasthere's any place where um you have to look a certain way to have an advantage and that is the only reason you get that advantage and that you naturally will be disadvantaged simply because of the way you're born whether that's your gender
01:26:44
Brian Atlaswhether that's your color whether it's anything um that is not right and I believe everyone should have an equal opportunity to be successful in any given Society so one question question
01:26:54
Brian Atlasfor you then so you would then be in favor of Europeans white Americans moving to Japan attempting to gain positions of political power in Japan
01:27:04
Brian Atlaswould you be in favor of that it if they were a Europe someone of European descent who's lived in Japan for a decade or more and they're if they've never been there before know nothing about the country then no I also don't think that no one someone who knows
01:27:18
Brian Atlasnothing about America should become the president I I think um but I don't think the color of your skin deter knowled you are if you grew up there and you're of European desent you should have equal
01:27:27
Brian Atlasopportunity to be they use that power as wellous you still want people who just got to the United States yesterday to be represented I want them to be represented yeah but do I want them to lead the country if they've never lived
01:27:40
Brian Atlashere before and don't know what the average plight is for the average person on the streets no I think they should be a their voices should be heard but that's why the president is not our ultimate ruler that's why we have a system of checks and bces they could
01:27:52
Brian Atlastotally be in the house ofes repres on a more local level like on a city council awesome on the on the representation front but yeah let's say Japan opens it up to immigrants coming into Japan which they've recently done
01:28:06
Brian Atlasuhhuh and this is because they have an aging out elder population enough young people take care of them so they're opening up work visas to come into Japan those people are not Japanese citizens they don't get the same rights as
01:28:16
Brian AtlasJapanese is that is that okay or not okay from your estimation um that's okay I mean I think you earn I I do believe in earnings and not going to give them citizenship but I'm just like I If you were not born there and you're coming
01:28:29
Brian Atlasover for a work visa or a student visa or something yeah I don't think you should necessarily be able to choose who's in power if that's not where you're investing your family like if you're investing your life your money like you're investing in the local economy you're having kids in this to
01:28:41
Brian Atlaslike you're invested in this place you should have complete equal opportunities to vote and and have opportunity to be Empower as well but if you're just there cuz you have a temp job you're going back to the states in a few months I mean you shouldn't have as many right
01:28:54
Brian Atlasand let's say they're there for 10 years I think if you're there for 10 years you should be able to have a say for sure CU at this point you've contributed to the community you're part what if you came in though with the understanding that they did not ever want you to have a say
01:29:05
Brian Atlasif you come in with that understanding then sure cuz you you agreed to that but like so is there anything actually come to America with the understanding they're going to be able to participate I understand so it's different so there's nothing you actually think is
01:29:16
Brian Atlasfundamentally immoral about Japan wanting to keep itself Japanese not necessarily but again it's it's way more nuanced than that like it's it I I do I do believe that if you have been a part
01:29:29
Brian Atlasof that culture and you're ingrained in that culture I do think that um especially if you were born there is what I'm saying not like you made a choice as an adult and you agreed to these rules like you were born there you just happen to be a white guy that was
01:29:40
Alex Kaneborn there you should have you should be a power and not be not not be L donated $200 just at the heart of this W up real could decide what America does if you are not American then stf youever
01:29:53
Brian Atlascountry should decide well that's what I'm saying is I'm saying they have the right to do that cuz if I'm choosing to go to Japan I'm like I'm agreeing to your rules but I'm saying if I was born in Japan looking the way I look I think I should have the same right as someone else so if the Japanese were to say and
01:30:06
Brian AtlasI'll just button it up with this with this answer if they were to say we don't want any immigrants from any other nations to come into the nation we wanted to remain purely Japanese I have to respect that like I but for my
01:30:17
Brian Atlascountry is in American I want other cultures here personally but yeah if if that's what they want that's not my culture I'm not going go pry and say [ __ ] you I deserve to be here like you know what that's I respect that there there's plenty of places in the world I'd like to visit that they might not
01:30:30
Brian Atlaslike me there and that's just the way it is I also think in a perfect world it would be immoral for us to block us from traveling and going places but I don't see any way to actually put that into action so it makes me feel like what's
01:30:43
Brian Atlasthe point in saying that or thinking that but I do feel like I don't I don't know what that means like I in a perfect world like if the world if we were
01:30:52
Brian Atlasbrought here to or born here whatever how whatever this is like I feel like we were set up like we're supposed to be happy and things are supposed to be easy for everyone and I don't know at this
01:31:05
Brian Atlaspoint in time how that could realistically happen so I don't know we have to go with the systems we already have in place so it's about making it if
01:31:15
Brian Atlaslike people want like she said if she if people want to live there and invest their lives or if they're born there they should have rights but if it's just a traveling thing now like we can't
01:31:27
Brian Atlasreally does that make sense what I'm trying to say but if a system existed which a culture said we do not want any Outsiders anywhere near this and it was a welldeveloped nation you wouldn't
01:31:38
Brian Atlasactually have any objections to that no I feel I in my heart of hearts I feel like that is immoral like I just don't feel because I just it's honestly it is an emotional feel like it's I just
01:31:49
Brian Atlasreally do love people do you but I understand that it's not possible yeah do you Bas morals though on just how you feel no I don't that's what I'm saying like that's something I which I why I said I don't even know if it's worth
01:32:02
Brian Atlasbringing up but it is something I think about often and wish more people would be willing to talk about like what would that possibility look like and I don't know if that's idealist or something but
01:32:12
Brian AtlasI still think that if we get to that route like if we really could all just coexist in the world like I don't understand you know what I'm trying to say I know it's an ideal world is no one owns the Earth and we all get along but
01:32:25
Brian Atlasthe truth of the matter is that's not the society we live in so I completely respect if another culture doesn't want me there would it bum me out sure but like I completely respect that but I as an American Living in America right now
01:32:37
Brian Atlaslike I have and as a woman who does have the right to vote because women fought and so hard for that like um I'm so excited they really didn't I just the more you guys talk them so grateful I am
01:32:48
Brian Atlasto be a lesbian man for real like baby on of men everywhere so we
01:32:56
Brian Atlasyeah I just uh definitely fought for the rights we have for sure we we fought for it so that's indisputable I don't even want we can get into some of that stuff later to put a button on all this something I think that we can all agree
01:33:08
Brian Atlason is to celebrate the fact that we are in the most thriving democracy in the world and I feel like with many we're not in a democracy rep okay to to you know like all of these topics
01:33:21
Brian Atlaspeople don't want to see the nuance and I just personally don't feel like we're in the like racism doesn't exist or we're in a racist country it's like yes we're not where we want to be but just like the feminism thing it's like let's applaud how far we've come I think we
01:33:33
Brian Atlaswere having a pretty nuanced conversation honestly yeah well that's no I'm not saying it was a nu I'm saying it seems to be in the binary of like you know white patriarchally runs everything and you know you're going if in order to
01:33:47
Brian Atlashave discourse we're going to have to have the scriptures that we can apply to reality yeah that there's no way around that so if you say okay we need to have nuance I agree a lot of these things have Nuance they have they're M they're multifaceted they're multi-tier all of
01:33:59
Brian Atlasthat's true but if I have a descriptor you know what horis STS are so horis STS work because they they work as descriptors for us to have conversations to get to the Nuance fine I'm saying we tend to be in a lot with a lot of these
01:34:11
Brian Atlastopics again common sense in the binary of this or that but back to what I originally said would you not agree with that the general kind of toss out I put out there where we're at why not no I
01:34:23
Brian Atlasdon't so so for one thing I think that I don't think we're arguing around the edges I think no no I'm I'm asking if you're debating like the idea that we've that I've thrown out that we're okay well let's make sure I get your idea
01:34:34
Brian Atlascorrect what what am I missing what are you what what is your idea to celebrate how we're in the the freest country in the world MH and that we are not where
01:34:45
Brian Atlasyou know we have a complicated past a complex past we're not no longer in that past we've made you know a lot of way but we're not where we want to be we got a lot of ways to go yeah so so first of all I think I think we need to untangle
01:34:57
Brian Atlasuntangle a couple things the first is how did you establish that this is the freest country in the world why wouldn't it be that's not an answer to the question that's begging the question it is the freest country in the
01:35:09
Brian Atlasworld oh well that's a declarative statement but not a demonstration how do we establish it is Constitution what you said other countries have constitutions I mean free speech um other countries have free
01:35:22
Brian Atlasspeech know I haven't gone enough places to really know if they're free or not I only know based on what I see what I'm fed by the media well I just want to let you know that that's a that's a neat slogan to
01:35:34
Brian Atlassay you're the freest country in the world uh but I seem to remember that there was lockdowns and it didn't feel like it was all that free so the thing
01:35:43
Brian Atlasis is uh a country Freer only a country fre not only that well well wait the the most free country in the world probably would be Somalia that would be the freest I mean the the now it seems like
01:35:55
Brian Atlasthe last few weeks it's kind of started to dissipate but the looming threat of project 2025 made me feel for the first time especially as someone who wants to have children through yeah keep laughing
01:36:05
Brian Atlasat so funny um like especially as someone who wants to have children through reciprocal IVF which is specifically detailed in that document um that made me feel like this country might I mean Liza and I were literally
01:36:18
Brian Atlaslike should we figure out how to get a work study Visa or something maybe try going somewhere else before the election happens like we genuinely we wondering are we going to be able to have the family we want in this country so and can ask can ask you a question on that
01:36:29
Brian Atlasso I mean I've seen like the image of the project 2025 thing I don't really know anything about it it doesn't appear to me though I it appears to me that
01:36:38
Brian Atlasit's it's framed from the point of view of Democrats and is it actually actual document WR by the Heritage Foundation that's from the point of I read the document myself I read it with a guide
01:36:51
Brian Atlasthat helped me go through it cuz it's obviously I I read the docent is it something that has was put out by the Trump Administration um it's put out by the Heritage Foundation which has
01:37:02
Brian Atlasdonated how much money to Trump and JD Vance literally is one of their leaders who's now TR all Trump already disavowed it Trump dis out it and said he didn't know anything about it when the man he selected as his vice president is literally one of the authors so that's
01:37:15
Brian Atlasclearly a lie I would like to know yes he is he's admitted to first of all let's back up let's back up how would it be a lie if you guys haven't read project 2025 I actually feel like project 202 then why did you just say it
01:37:27
Brian Atlascame from the point of Democrats when it was that's not what I said I said the Heritage Foundation is a conservative think tank and Trump already disavowed project 2025 he already said no there's already aspects of this I don't like
01:37:39
Brian Atlaswhich I wish he wouldn't have done but he did right so you saying that JD Vance uh was assisting in the authorship of it does not demonstrate that Trump knew a damn thing about it why would Trump pick
01:37:50
Brian Atlassomeone who was an author you think that if Trump was trying to figure out who his running mate was he wasn't going to discuss those ideals those are his main ideals of course they discuss that discussions were I know you're not
01:38:03
Brian Atlasbecause you you're not educated on it but I recommend getting educated on it after the show really well but what I've seen what I've seen is a lot of sharing on social media I mean I'm educ I would love to have the debate right now social read the document read the document read
01:38:16
Brian Atlasthe document don't just look at social media post from random liberals like State I don't even register as the to what here let's do this their views on their views on gay marriage their
01:38:28
Brian Atlasviews on abortion yeah those are great views they I and they represent a huge swath of the nation uh they yeah so I that would literally mean that fiance can't have our children the way we want here's what we're going to do if you
01:38:42
Brian Atlasguys want to have a political debate we will invite you guys to have back you can do it tomorrow yeah that's fine you can do it tomorrow you guys can come and then we can flesh out all that stuff in detail in a more
01:38:53
Brian AtlasI was a journalist in this town and I spoke on a round T talk happy to have you there's other people on the panel there's other people on SE actually I'm highly educated you if you guys are down we could we could
01:39:06
Brian Atlashave like both both of you on the panel and it can be uh it could be a 1v2 okay so stop the steal of this live stream I need more water we'd be happy to host an
01:39:16
Brian Atlasactual debate on it but um thank you so oh boy okay we love this stuff though like we think it's it's appreciate there's other people on the
01:39:27
Brian Atlaspanel there's other things to get to we can have a dedicated debate on politic uh specific political things in a dedicated uh debate Andrew you free tomorrow yeah let's do it you guys okay
01:39:38
Brian Atlaswe we'll say it up we we'll talk after the show um I just don't want the majority of the show ate up by% we got Trump Biden then
01:39:49
Brian Atlastotally uh so okay uh we need to do two chats we have one from grid one grid one I'm going to get you in here in just a sec and we have uh Tony I'm not going to pull it back up because of your name but
01:40:00
Brian Atlasyou did ask question for every I'm scared question for everyone who in the room owes reparations oh I mean probably me is who
01:40:10
Brian Atlasowes rep that's a light question yeah right are they is it normally this is that about I don't know normally it's not this political but okay it's in the
01:40:21
Brian Atlasair how would how would your political views not have to do with dating though in an election season of of course they are true like there's
01:40:31
Brian Atlasno it's kind of true um so raise your hand if you feel like you owe reparations personally Define reparations though is
01:40:42
Brian Atlasis reparations a financial payment Cricket I there's not crickets you have to give me more but like are are we defining are we defining I like her she's cool thank you we defining
01:40:53
Brian Atlasreparations by some payment or are we defining reparations by what we were talking about earlier which is however you want to word it but dismantling whiteness because I do believe I'm paying yeah keeps rolling your eyes dude it's like you can't listen you just roll
01:41:06
Brian Atlasyour eyes but like if you're dismantling whiteness and you're actively every day trying to think in an anti-racist way I believe that is a form of paying reparations cuz I'm working on myself okay do I have a million dollars no and
01:41:18
Brian AtlasI probably never will that's not what I'm talking about how about we just uh show hands who who would the O rep ations what what working to better myself myself less yeah I I am making
01:41:31
Brian Atlassense the one black guy in the room yeah I'm working on myself the black guy in the room he's not backing down by working on my my my perspective and shifting my perspective and trying cuz
01:41:42
Brian Atlasas a honestly as a lesbian there's like certain ways that I don't have privilege and then as a white woman and there's ways I do and so like when I am in spaces where my privilege can be used
01:41:53
Brian Atlasfor for good that is paying reparations is like not sitting quiet in this situation right now and saying I don't want to look stupid from these people so I'm not going to say what I believe I'm saying what I believe because that's my
01:42:03
Brian Atlasway of paying reparations like I'm said I'm not ashamed of your facial expressions like mine all of yours like I'm very I haven't I haven't been
01:42:13
Brian Atlasrolling my eyes I you have and even if I disagree with you at times this chick has I like how you hold your own beautiful okay all right we're all
01:42:26
Brian Atlasholding hands under the table can support women even if they disagree with one another and that's what feminism is we support each othere um no matter
01:42:36
Brian Atlaswhat popcorn I was the feminist though before I voted the opposite way that I would now completely and I saw through why my emotional like look at things was
01:42:47
Richard (audience)not just how it was like oh gay people this all gay people that like they should get married married they should be able to adopt kids and that's you know not everyone thank you Richard got to make it
01:42:59
Brian Atlasconcise things are be able to do in V fertilization oh my God that's a some other I mean she said adopt I just want to see
01:43:10
Brian Atlasthe rest of her view but well I mean okay so here I I have a view okay because I okay I'll get real personal but I think it's relevant so also from Arizona roie Wade it doesn't it doesn't
01:43:22
Brian Atlasnot exist there anymore you you have to be able to get an abortion before like eight to n weeks but you can still get one I know cuz I've had two and I hate my life for it okay it's you I don't know if half the women that have gotten
01:43:34
Brian Atlasabortions ever would do it again and most of them get them more than once and that's really sad now the people who support the right to get an abortion why does so many of the girls I know have
01:43:46
Brian Atlaskids though you know because they still wanted to have those kids but why are you fighting for This Woman's like any any woman or any women to get one if you're not going to get one yourself cuz
01:43:57
Brian Atlasit's their choice because you support all women if they agree with you choosing that is freaking [ __ ] hard I had an
01:44:08
Brian Atlasabortion I've wanted to be a mother since I was 2 years old it's one to me I had to have an abortion because F the situation I was in as a teenager being abused and being threatened with
01:44:19
Brian Atlashomelessness if I kept the baby I had no choice and I'm not going to say read it cuz I don't know where I'd be today if I moved into a homeless shelter at that age but I can tell you motherhood is extremely valuable to me I want it more
01:44:29
Brian Atlasthan anything I can't wait to have this woman's babies but like I um I had to have that abortion at that time and so that's why if any other woman in this Society if they want to be childless cat ladies I'm going to applaud them and support them all the way through if they
01:44:42
Brian Atlaswant to have a baby like me I also am going to do that and I'm going to support them having a baby in whatever means they want to do so I applaud you wanting to be a mother okay I I should have gone about it a different way I should have cuz I actually have two my two friends they are okay this is so
01:44:55
Brian Atlasconfusing one of them is a lesbian and the other one is a trans man so they just they work okay but they are they're my best friends my two best friends one growing up the other one is my best friend that I made as an adult if I
01:45:07
Brian Atlaswould have had the kid that I you know wanted to but I just it's just my stupid brain and my stupid choice no one forced me to do it but I should have uh I wanted to give them the kid because I don't think that you know they're great
01:45:20
Brian Atlaswith kids they they would have made great parents but I just I chose to be selfish so what about the fact when people don't know they're pregnant that early yeah you I
01:45:31
Brian Atlasmean I didn't know till I was 13 weeks and that's common and normal most people do not know no I kept them the first time earlier in my life I did I had two abortions and then I didn't find out
01:45:41
Brian Atlastill 13 weeks I took about 10 tests for 2 3 months that came up negative and I was already 13 weeks does anybody does
01:45:51
Brian Atlasanybody here not had an abortion for you you and you and I will say this is very true you can probably fight me on it but um the majority of women who have abortions have actually already
01:46:02
Brian Atlashave a live child it's because they they don't have the financial capacity they don't have the emotional support to take on another child but the vast majority of people who have abortions are not childless they already have children and
01:46:13
Brian Atlasit's extremely hard decision for them and so I I will speaking to the choir I know it's a hard decision either way and why why bring a baby into this world
01:46:25
Brian Atlasthat is unwanted ends up in the system abused assaulted who knows what other things or you know what in either way either the baby or the V the mother
01:46:35
Brian Atlasthey're both victims no matter how they got pregnant no one should be forced to stick with that choice and I don't think I can think of any law that governs anything a man can do with their body I
01:46:46
Brian Atlasjust going to say to toss it out asked that question actually she said name one law that governs a man's body I don't know if you what what do you guys think of the you
01:46:57
Brian Atlasknow counter counter every man get a vasectomy so I I actually reject your premise so it's a sneaky loaded language it's fun it's fun to kind of do mental
01:47:07
Brian Atlasexercises like that right what law governs a man's body well we're not governing your body we're governing the body of somebody who's not you and tell you you can't destroy the body you got to let me finish if you ask
01:47:20
Brian Atlasme a question I'm sorry but it looked like a freaking you're looking at the we're playing God and it's just propanda is wild so so back to this
01:47:31
Brian Atlasright so just to answer your question uh no they're not governing your body they're governing the rights of what is considered to be another human being inside of your body so the human
01:47:41
Brian Atlascarrying that yes so the fact that that that in Project 2025 it would that I that's not govering my body stop go ahead you
01:47:51
Brian Atlasgo um in the case of oh it's murder when it's not even a fully formed human with
01:47:59
Brian Atlasthoughts uh why does that fetus's life matter more than the woman who's carrying it so this is a especially if
01:48:10
Brian Atlasit's coming to a woman who is unable to take care for that child what kind of life is that fetus going to go through when they are breathing and speaking and thinking and to come into this world and
01:48:22
TTS/Donationsknow that they're not wanted or they suffer in poverty grid One Motorsports donated $200 not shocked at all this panel is
01:48:32
Brian Atlascool with murdering children what a l panel sigh abdol get the Rocks crazy get the Rocks makes me and Mak me so grateful to
01:48:44
Brian Atlasbe who I am and not be I think that the after care for abortions is not a thing and that it's not something because I wasn't prepared thank you good one for
01:48:56
Brian Atlasquestion you know what I mean so I think physically or emotionally and I think but no I was in person but I was
01:49:06
Brian Atlasless than 8 weeks um okay but I I was lucky and found out right away I had time I had time to think about it but I was homeless right after I'm asking because like you you didn't go home and
01:49:17
Brian Atlasyou did pass the misc no that's traumatizing dude yes and people don't talk about the trauma that you go through I don't want to talk about it because I'm ashamed of myself for it because it was really bad it was disgusting that I made that choice but
01:49:29
Brian Atlasthat's my choice not your guys no but I do agree that it is a selfish thing and I'm going to be honest that the first when I decided that was the first decision I ever made that was my own so it made me feel like okay I'm I wish I
01:49:41
Brian Atlascould change for this person and I wish I could be that person but I can't and I do wish I I would have done adoption stuff but I could I wasn't in the place also mental health is a huge thing as well have pmdd so when I got pregnant
01:49:55
Brian Atlaswell we um we're going to incorporate the abortion conversation into tomorrow's show um you fix us up off the street so no it's it's good we just
01:50:06
Brian Atlaswalking to get tacos I had no idea it's uh it's good like I think it's been a very it's a good panel right Andrew good panel I think it's a fantastic panel thank you for be able to talk about that by the way cuz no one in my life knows
01:50:19
Brian Atlasabout it cuz I'm not going to talk about it that's what I want we want to create people to do that so anyways so anyway really quick I did want to go into one thing really quick but we are going to
01:50:30
Brian Atlasmove it on uh I think it was you you were saying something about uh I don't know precisely how you worded it Andrew brought it up something about how
01:50:40
Brian Atlaswhere what's a way in which men don't have rights over their body asking asking what government policies any La prevents you from doing something you
01:50:50
Brian Atlaswant with your own body m so I have I actually have two that kind of relate to bodily autonomy uh but it was posed by you or by of us and then I said Comm last that
01:51:03
Brian Atlasidentical question and is that that's a question that you have yeah I can't think of a single body or single that will prevent you from doing what you want with your body circumcision but you actually feel so hold on hold on
01:51:14
Brian AtlasI your position that there is no way that a man lacks uh bodily autonomy I think if you wanted to do literally anything you want with your body I don't think anyone in the government's stopping you and if you can name one
01:51:27
Brian Atlasthing let me know cuz I would love to learn can't think of anything no one's forcing you guys get the only thing I can think of is as an infant you being circumcised and that is something I
01:51:38
Brian Atlaswholeheartedly you can't unive yourself either for you can't un alive yourself I mean but you can you're not going to jail for it you'll be dead but it's hang on but it's the the question the
01:51:49
Brian Atlasquestion that you asked wasn't whether you could do something oh that's what I'm asking actually that's not what you're asking because what you're actually asking the government's not going to stop you from
01:51:59
Brian Atlaskilling yourself question not cut me off every time I try to talk okay so uh no the question which you asked was can you
01:52:08
Brian Atlasname a law which governs men's bodies that that because that's what's happening to women this's a law governing their bodies yes there's a law that says you cannot un alive yourself
01:52:21
Brian AtlasLa strictly pertaining to you're not allowed to do that so that would be a law that governs you feelion because I feel passion about we
01:52:34
Brian Atlasgot use a different [ __ ] word on we got to use a [ __ ] different word we got to use a different [ __ ] word I would like to actually finish my point
01:52:43
Brian Atlashere yeah my bad so when it come I mean while it is not by law a requirement that children are circumcised feminists constantly make arguments
01:52:54
Brian Atlasabout well there isn't a law there's a societal culture that uh mistreats women in this way or privileges men in this way so I think circumcision is actually a fantastic argument when it
01:53:04
Brian Atlasspecifically comes to bodily autonomy as it relates to men secondly there actually is one so forced military conscription so all men in the United
01:53:16
Brian AtlasStates compelled by law are required to register with a Selective Service which in the event of War would compel them to essentially be Canon fodder in a
01:53:26
Brian Atlasmilitary conflict secondly even if there wasn't a military conflict if a man fails under law to register for the Selective Service there are significant
01:53:36
Brian Atlasramifications to this for example they can't vote they can't uh they are not allowed to have certain federal uh jobs federal careers they can't get student
01:53:48
Brian Atlasprisoned anded there's a yes it's a felony $250,000 are fine there's some other potential ramifications and women are not subject to that by the way and and you know what you know what I really appreciate you bringing that point up
01:54:01
Brian Atlasbecause this is where the point really lies here is you're 100% correct and the difference between you and I is that I would fight till the end for that to not be the case for you guys but you guys would not fight for me clearly why well