Andrew Wilson vs. SUPER Feminists! Misandrist? She HATES Brian?! 300+ Body Count? | Dating Talk #183

Date: 2024-07-31
Duration: 8h 41m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Taylor Furber(guest)
SPEAKER_04Richard (audience)(audience)
SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_09Brianna(guest)
SPEAKER_10Alex Kane(guest)
SPEAKER_11Delaney(guest)
SPEAKER_12TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_13Liza(guest)

Key Moments

00:05:49
IntroLuna Baby introduces herself: 30, Vegas, social media and porn. Adult industry 10 years.

hello I'm Luna baby I am 30 um I currently live in Vegas grew up in LA and my occupation I do social media and porn

00:06:32
IntroLiza introduces herself: 28, Isla Vista from Chicago, singer-songwriter. Sings original song chorus.

hi I'm Liza I'm 28 I live in Isa Vista but I just moved from Chicago um I'm a singer songwriter

00:09:19
IntroAlex Kane introduces herself: 22, Las Vegas, adult film.

Kane I'm 22 I live in Las Vegas and I do adult film

00:09:43
IntroDelaney introduces herself: 27, Santa Barbara, former property manager, entering medical industry.

I'm Delaney I'm 27 and I am uh been in Santa Barbara the last 10 years I'm originally from San Diego

00:10:53
IntroTaylor Furber introduces herself: 33, Nashville, red carpet reporter, podcast host Talk to Me Taylor.

hi everybody I'm Taylor furber 33 the grandma on this... I am uh formerly in La I'm in Nashville now I was a red carpet reporter

00:11:26
IntroBrianna introduces herself: 21, UCSB, psych and brain sciences, from Riverside.

hi everyone my name is Brianna I'm 21 I'm originally from Riverside but now I'm here

00:13:08
IntroLayla introduces: 30, Northern Arizona, off-grid glamping PM, No Agenda EP.

I'm laa I'm 30 I'm from Northern Arizona and I'm a property manager for off-grid glamour camping airbnbs

00:13:26
IntroAndrew Wilson introduces himself: host of The Crucible, political analyst, debate university creator.

my name is Andrew Wilson the host of The Crucible the fastest growing debate Channel on YouTube

01:33:42
ControversyLiza expresses fear over Project 2025 and reciprocal IVF rights; she and Delaney considered leaving the US.

especially as someone who wants to have children through reciprocal IVF which is specifically detailed in that document

01:49:05
OtherLiza reveals she has had two abortions; emotional disclosure about wanting to be a mother.

I had to have an abortion because of the situation I was in as a teenager being abused and being threatened with homelessness

02:03:54
OtherDelaney discloses past sex work/escorting during relationship with Liza; Liza supported her through it.

I used to be a sex worker um and I was a sex worker that involved sleeping with um men um and Liza was we were in a relationship for a period during that time

02:56:33
ControversyAndrew Wilson presents force doctrine argument: men could remove women's rights by force if they chose.

if men collectively said that you couldn't do that you couldn't do that right at this point I mean if they imprisoned me for it

03:07:07
OtherSelf-ratings round begins: Brian asks everyone to rate looks 1-10 (can't pick 7).

going around the table starting with you rate your looks on scale of 1 to 10 can't pick seven

03:35:30
ControversyLiza and Delaney confront Brian about being combative/misogynist; Brian defends his hosting approach.

I just found somebody who's not very respectful of women

03:57:27
OtherBear or man question posed. Liza and Delaney both choose bear due to personal trauma with men.

would you rather be stuck in the woods with a random man or random bear starting with you go ahead

05:29:00
TopicLiza/Delaney mini-departure moment after political debate gets too heated; Brian redirects to other guests.

we'd be happy to host an actual debate on it but um thank you so... we need to move it on

05:55:18
OtherDelaney reveals she was previously a sex worker/escort and did OnlyFans to pay bills for a year.

it did pay all my bills for a year it paid my fiance's bills it made my dreams come true I mean I don't regret what I did

06:17:29
QuoteBody counts revealed: Luna says ~200-300; Alex Kane says over 1,000.

my body count if you really want to know yeah I probably past a couple hundred couple hundred okay like 200-300

06:19:04
QuoteAlex Kane states body count over 1,000.

over 1,000 I love dick I love being a slut

06:40:03
QuoteLuna defends body count double standard; argues critics are the same people consuming her content.

who cares like it's back to the double standard fine... the same people who want to devalue me and people in my industry are the same people consuming it

07:55:21
QuoteTaylor Furber explains her power game with male friends: challenges them to grab her ass by end of dinner.

I will put it on the table and be like okay you know I Dare You by the time we leave this restaurant like grab my butt

Topics Discussed

00:00:15
Show open / announcements / debate university promo

Brian opens show, channel announcements, promotes debateuniversity.com verbal combat course with Andrew Wilson.

00:05:41
Guest introductions

All 7 guests + Andrew introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Luna Baby sings; Alex Kane intro; Delaney; Taylor Furber; Brianna; Layla; Andrew Wilson.

00:14:20
World War I/II trivia round

Brian asks panel to name WWI/WWII years and Allied/Axis powers. Mixed results.

00:18:18
Relationship status round

Each guest shares relationship status, longest relationship, and single period. Includes discussion of dating civilians while in adult film industry (Luna, Alex Kane). Liza reveals engagement to Delaney; Brianna reveals virgin status.

00:51:07
Feminist / patriarchy debate

Extended debate on feminism definition, dismantling patriarchy/whiteness, male vs female rights. Liza and Delaney as primary feminist advocates vs Andrew Wilson debating. Topics: DEI, meritocracy, Kamala Harris, female representation, women's suffrage.

01:30:00
Bodily autonomy: abortion vs military draft

Andrew Wilson debates bodily autonomy — abortion rights vs Selective Service (draft) registration. Liza/Delaney argue pro-choice; Andrew argues draft is equivalent bodily autonomy restriction. Both agree draft should be equal or abolished.

01:33:42
Project 2025 / US freedom debate

Liza and Delaney express concerns about Project 2025 (reciprocal IVF referenced). Andrew Wilson argues US is the freest country. Discussion on LGBTQ rights, abortion policy.

01:40:30
Reparations / dismantling whiteness discussion

Brian asks who owes reparations. Liza/Delaney on dismantling whiteness systems. DEI debate, Japan immigration analogy, Israel mentioned.

01:45:00
Abortion personal stories

Personal disclosures about abortion experiences from multiple guests. Discussion on trauma, shame, lack of aftercare, pro-choice vs pro-life. Religious debate on when life begins.

02:06:54
Suicide / euthanasia discussion

Discussion stems from bodily autonomy debate. Liza's position on allowing adult children to make end-of-life decisions. Growing up Jehovah's Witness reference.

02:19:03
Male suicide rate statistics

TTS brings up men dying by suicide at 3.85x rate of women (CDC stat). Brief panel discussion on why men commit suicide at higher rates.

03:07:07
Self-ratings round (looks 1-10)

Brian asks each guest to rate their looks 1-10 (can't pick 7). Then asks what 1,000 men would rate them. Comparison to Pamela Anderson in her peak.

03:10:10
Will you be better-looking in 10-20-30 years? debate

Discussion on aging, Botox, breast implants, wrinkles. Most women say yes (in different ways). Andrew challenges with logic about magic wand aging.

03:57:27
Bear or man survival scenario

Standard Whatever question: stuck in woods alone with random man or random bear. Liza and Delaney choose bear (due to trauma with men). Others split. Extended debate on male victimization risk statistics, force doctrine, women's self-sufficiency.

04:43:06
Victimhood hierarchy debate

Discussion on whether victimization can be compared/ranked. Convenience store robbery scenario vs assault example. Liza argues no perfect victim; Andrew argues levels of victimization exist.

04:52:18
Ukraine war / men barred from leaving

Andrew uses Ukraine war example: men 18-60 barred from leaving country, women could flee. Discussion on who is more victimized in war.

05:05:00
Women's self-sufficiency without men debate

Andrew Wilson argues women need men (force doctrine). Liza argues she needs tools not men. Discussion on infrastructure, construction, physical strength differences, fire making.

05:12:00
Force doctrine / physical power dynamic

Andrew Wilson presents force doctrine argument: men's physical dominance means women's rights are ultimately granted by men. Feminist guests dispute.

06:17:29
Body count debate / double standard

Body count revealed (Luna ~200-300, Alex Kane 1000+). Debate on double standard for promiscuous women vs men. STD testing practices among sex workers discussed.

06:18:00
Sex worker debate: porn addiction / industry criticism

Luna and Alex Kane defend porn industry. Andrew analogizes porn criticism to tobacco company criticism by addicts. Discussion of PornHub safety improvements, CP concerns.

07:55:21
Taylor's relationship dynamic / monogamy philosophy

Taylor Furber describes her unconventional relationship approach: flirting with male friends, issuing 'ass-grab challenges' as power play. Partner is twice her age, non-possessive. Brian and Andrew challenge the logic.

Transcript

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08:33:08
Delaneyinstead of Leaning into it and further damaging your mental health corn it's obvious you're suffering far from it I actually love my life Lord 69 who donated $30 Gypsy how
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Delaneymany more souls is it going to take to bring your IQ up as many as it [ __ ] takes
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Brian Atlasokay um GG well oh really quick debate University guys debate university.com Andrew put on a [ __ ] master class
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Alex Kanetoday he is the master debater he is the master debater energy donated $30 I am not LP man sorry Tam Barbie and just taking back power to the
08:33:52
Brian Atlaspatriarchy none of your videos have anywhere near 500k views okay Boomer have really quick guys debate university.com uh verbal combat
08:34:03
Brian Atlasis the course 80 plus video six hours of content and we also have a monthly live uh we have a separate membership you can
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Brian Atlasbuy together that we have monthly live q&as with Andrew um I'm also going to be helping out with those so be sure to check it out guys and if you want to learn how to become
08:34:25
Brian Atlasmaster debater I guess okay cool thanks guys um so where was I thank you for tuning in tonight GG well played thank you to everyone who super chats donates and
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Brian Atlassupports the show your patronage is very much appreciated thank you to the wonderful panel really appreciate you guys this was a long show you guys are [ __ ] Troopers you're a legend Morgan's a legend you're a
08:34:49
Brian Atlaslegend you're kind of crazy you said like three words I thought I was the crazy one okay fine you get to be crazy too we can be crazy together we can put both our crazy
08:35:00
Brian Atlastogether we can put both our crazy together yeah but you're taking pills and maybe we can run the world so that's okay then may we be not you know dumb
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Brian Atlaserroneous uh oh wait sorry sorry body count million um I don't know over 300 I can say that
08:35:29
Brian Atlashow how many from work and then how many from not work not work I can't I don't know I can say that before I got in the industry it was like 27 but I can also say that I've slept with people outside
08:35:40
Brian Atlasof the industry while being in the industry but yeah over over I'd say like most of it's from work though yeah if that's the question Fox donated $30 Brian and Andrew you guys got pwn heart
08:35:53
Alex Kanetonight you should start debating with respect and you'll likely actually make impact and earn respect thank you Russ thank you you're one of the guys that
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Brian Atlasmust have voted on that poll um than thanks bro uh so you said over 300 yeah yeah wait what was that H she went she
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Brian Atlasum over 300 over 300 yes I think you said body count like
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Brian Atlasflirting count that's news to me so wait how many how many relationship get weird how many relationships have you
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08:37:04
Brian Atlasrelationships maybe like one or two again I'm not a big serial dater I either kind of do my thing or so six is
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Brian Atlasthe body count you said 33 longest relationship 2 years seems a little dubious but how that makes total sense I
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Brian Atlasmean never I've never slept with were you a lay plumer actually that what do that to do anything but no when did you lose your virginity is it I'll tell you I'll I 17
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Brian Atlasshow for show I was 17 okay I was 16 I was right before you you were right behind was how that Rel that math not you in a relationship yeah it was my
08:37:52
Brian Atlasfirst boyfriend okay how is this math not mathing I've never like have you had periods of celibacy not intentionally celibate but basically yes I've never I've never C
08:38:04
Brian Atlaslong you've been celibate oh God so long like two three years probably it's been drought City okay it's not nearly exciting as it
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Brian Atlaslike a at this you look like somebody stud yeah yeah I look like me yeah you do you look like you but I don't know who any we're just going to pull that up
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Brian Atlasevery I know I know you should have never shared it with us okay uh killed now Brian thank you to the panel thank you to everyone who super chats donates
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Brian Atlassupports the show thank you guys we will be live again uh we're gonna maybe try to do the thing tomorrow then we have we have debate th sort of debate Thursday
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Brian Atlasthen we have debate Friday uh so a lot of content this week uh most like uh Thursday Friday definitely locked in Wednesday going to wait to they said
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Brian Atlasthey're for sure down they let me know girls so okay cool we'll run it uh let's see any girls who want to be on the show DM whatever on Instagram if you can make it to Santa Barbara 07s in the chat just
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Brian Atlasswe this is how I support women okay I'm a I'm a feminist okay um all right guys thank you for watching on Twitch I hope you guys have a good night enjoy the uh
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Brian Atlaseverything all right guys 07s in the chat uh was there anything else body count yeah it's okay we're okay guys 07s in the chat I hope you guys have a good night be sure to tune in for the streams
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Brian AtlasWednesday Thursday Friday Andrew is going to put on the master class so be sure to check those out good night guys 07s in the chat we'll see you next time