Andrew Wilson vs. Feminists (HEATED)?! MAGA Girls?! VlRGlN?! NEAR KICK?! | Dating Talk #151

Date: 2024-04-10
Duration: 6h 38m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Background Voice(audience)
SPEAKER_01TTS/Andrew Wilson (alt segment)(audience)
SPEAKER_02Nicole(guest)
SPEAKER_03Luce(guest)
SPEAKER_04Caroline(guest)
SPEAKER_05Kenna(guest)
SPEAKER_06Northy(guest)
SPEAKER_09Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_10Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_12Isabelle Brown(guest)
SPEAKER_13Carly(guest)
SPEAKER_14Arya Riley(guest)

Key Moments

00:02:42
IntroBrian introduces the panel; Arya Riley refuses to share her age triggering a ~20 minute standoff.

"please tell us your name age location and occupation"

00:06:05
ControversyArya Riley refuses to share her age for ~20 minutes citing "mystery" strategy from Robert Greene's Art of Seduction. Brian threatens to kick her off the show. She eventually says "I'm 22" as a lie. Pre-show casting indicated 29.

"I just don't share that... it's part of my mystery... my appeal"

00:09:33
QuoteBrian threatens to remove Arya from show if she refuses to share her age.

"if the choice is between revealing your age and me kicking you off the show right now which do you choose"

00:41:10
QuoteArya discloses her sugar daddy has sent approximately $26k total in cash and gifts including paying her rent, before they even met in person ($12k sent before first meeting).

"I would guess in cash like 20,000 and then maybe in gifts... my rent's on auto pay too"

00:41:30
OtherArya Riley explains the origin of her viral boat TikTok video: met a ~65yo man at a bar the night she was fired from a strip club; he invited her and a friend sailing; not a sugar daddy.

"I had just gotten fired from the strip club and we went out... he invited us to go sailing"

01:42:00
ControversyLuce argues women were historically excluded from the workforce until wartime. Andrew and panel correct this claim; women were teachers, nurses, clerical workers throughout history.

"until war time women weren't allowed in the workforce"

01:44:30
ControversyAndrew Wilson argues from the transcript that women historically fought against suffrage because they did not want to incur debt or be conscripted. Luce pushes back on revisionist framing.

"the anti-suffragettes... didn't want to be drafted... didn't want to incur debt"

01:55:00
ControversyBrian plays a clip of a previous female guest calling him "white boy" to dismiss his argument. Long debate follows on whether this is racism or prejudice.

"white boy... you've never experienced racism in history white people haven't experienced racism"

03:17:00
OtherIsabelle Brown opens abortion discussion and challenges panel on body autonomy argument; notes life begins at conception biologically; compares selective abortion to eugenics logic. She leaves the show shortly after (~3 hour mark).

"isn't that the same line of thinking that eugenicists have used throughout all of human history"

03:39:35
QuoteIsabelle Brown makes closing statement before leaving due to flight: remains optimistic about her generation; grateful for the conversation.

"I remain really optimistic about the future of this generation"

04:17:39
OtherSelf-ratings round: Andrew Wilson rates himself a 4; Northy gives DC 10 / California 7 joke.

"ask everyone to rate their looks physical looks on a scale of 1 to 10"

04:18:00
ControversyNorthy calls production staff member Gustavo "a pathetic little baby loser" on air; Andrew Wilson reacts sharply in defense of Gustavo.

"is Nick a loser Nick is such a fucking loser what the fuck... Gustavo are you a loser"

04:45:35
ControversyAndrew Wilson challenges Nicole to provide secular moral grounds for why necrophilia is wrong; Nicole says she has no grounds beyond personal opinion; Andrew uses this to argue secular morality has no epistemic foundation.

"if a society democratically voted that people are allowed to screw dead bodies you have nothing other than your personal opinion to justify why they shouldn't do it"

04:55:00
OtherAndrew invites Nicole and Luce to come to his studio for a formal 1v1 debate with no interruptions; Brian announces Andrew returning to studio next Sunday and Tuesday.

"go in studio have a one v one debate... it'll be well moderated"

06:13:00
QuoteArya Riley complains her spine is hurting due to large breast size during heated debate; Brian draws attention to it.

"my spine is screaming"

06:15:26
OtherBrian reads rapid-fire closing hot take statements covering dating norms, feminism, body count, plastic surgery, age-gap relationships, male oppression (military conscription), and male privilege; ends with genital shaming joke.

"women have dating on easy mode... only traditional women deserve traditional treatment... feminism is not about equality it's about securing benefits for women"

06:20:40
OtherEnd of show: Brian does Twitch double-raid to stay-safe and WowGrandma78 (82yo WoW streamer). Andrew Wilson redirects viewers to his YouTube channel. Northy promotes her YouTube channel "Hard Ones" after doing a bow (after calling Brian "baby girl").

"I'm going to do a double raid... WowGrandma78... she's 82 she plays World of Warcraft"

Topics Discussed

00:02:42
Guest introductions

Guests introduce name, age, location, occupation. Notable: Arya Riley refuses to share her age (~20 minute standoff with Brian). Brian threatens to remove her from show. Isabelle Brown returning guest; now engaged. Carly discloses she was previously only attracted to women.

00:06:05
Age mystery standoff — Arya Riley

Arya Riley refuses to share her age citing "mystery" strategy from Art of Seduction. Brian spends ~20 minutes pressing her. She eventually says "I'm 22" as a lie. Pre-show casting indicated age 29. Chat donates to push back. Isabelle Brown and Northy discuss the OnlyFans mystery/fantasy-selling angle. Brian points out contradiction: posting nude content but hiding age.

00:13:30
Relationship status and sugar daddy arrangement

Brian goes around table for relationship status. Arya Riley describes her sugar daddy arrangement: ~$26k total from man who found her via Instagram after a bikini contest video. He sent $12k before they ever met in person. Paid her rent. Brian asks how many sugar daddies she's had total; she declines to estimate. Northy: single since August 2023; no relationship; career focused. Kenna: in 5-month relationship. Carly: single; complicated history with first male partner after being lesbian.

00:37:30
Viral boat video (Arya Riley)

Brian plays two TikTok videos from Arya Riley's account. First: shows her with an older white man — not a sugar daddy; met at a bar the night she was fired from strip club. He invited her and a friend sailing. Video went viral. Second (boat one): Brian plays with audio; she sings; older man is on a sailboat with her.

00:58:00
Partner income requirements

Brian asks each guest minimum income requirement in a partner. Kenna: $100k minimum; wants luxury lifestyle, travel, 3-4 bedroom house. Arya Riley: no minimum per hour; wants man who can provide; had negative experience with wage-gap relationships. Carly (UCSB poli sci/barista): wants comparable income (~barista level currently; higher for long-term). Caroline: equitable contribution, livable income for the area. Luce: love first; partnership/shared financial planning; flexible on who earns more. Isabelle Brown: priorities shift as wedding nears; simple life more appealing.

01:03:00
Marriage and kids intent round

Isabelle Brown asks who still wants to get married and have kids. Almost everyone raises hands; Northy: would consider marriage but not kids (kids might ruin relationship). Andrew Wilson notes apparent contradiction between wanting traditional marriage outcomes while still having modern financial requirements. Isabelle says she is surprised and gratified that most still want marriage.

01:08:00
Women in history and workforce

Luce claims women weren't allowed in the workforce until WWII. Andrew corrects her: women were nurses, teachers, clerical workers throughout history. Discussion of why women lack corporate ladder presence (fewer female CEOs). Andrew: women don't gravitate toward that kind of competitive corporate environment. Brief discussion of women's college enrollment exceeding men's (60/40 split).

01:10:00
Feminism: definition debate

Debate over what feminism means. Andrew offers "most charitable" definition: belief in egalitarianism and equality under law. Panel mostly declines the feminist label. Northy: prefers justice over equality; equity framing; subjective moral metric. Luce: progressive but avoids labels. Andrew's test: does being a stay-at-home mom hold women back? Most say no; Andrew argues that disqualifies most from being modern feminists.

01:33:14
Nuclear family and stay-at-home mothers

Andrew Wilson argues nuclear family is the optimal societal unit; requires stay-at-home mothers during formative years. Luce pushes back: individual relationships should determine dynamics. Andrew counters with population data and birth rate decline. Northy and Luce argue stay-at-home model is subjective and not universally optimal. Panel divided on whether career or motherhood should be prioritized.

01:55:00
Racism debate: can you be racist against white people?

Brian plays a clip of a prior female guest calling him "white boy" to dismiss his arguments. Panel debates whether that is racism or prejudice. Nicole and Luce: racism requires institutional power; calling Brian "white boy" is prejudice not racism. Andrew Wilson and Brian: by moral equivalence, prejudice equally bad as racism; double standard. Knockout game discussion (Andrew: specific anti-white crime pattern). Extended Andrew vs. Nicole/Luce debate on social constructs, material reality, and definitions. Brian: women benefit most from affirmative action (specifically white women).

03:05:54
Misogyny accusation and podcast defense

Luce argues the Whatever Podcast is misogynistic in tone and framing. Andrew and Brian push back: misogyny requires hatred, not disagreement. Luce raises friend who appeared on show and received hate online. Brian plays back a clip of that previous female guest calling him "white boy." Panel debates double standards in public discourse and cancel culture. Brian: UCSB feminist studies program perpetuates ideology; universities are ideologically captured.

03:17:00
Abortion debate

Isabelle Brown opens abortion discussion near end of her time on show. Luce: pro-choice under privacy clause; personally would not get one. Arya Riley: 100% pro-choice given her experience in the industry. Northy: pro-choice; references medical complexity of abortion timelines. Nicole: pro-choice; debate between her and Isabelle on soul/personhood. Isabelle: pro-life; life begins at conception (biomedical + theological). Andrew: references Christian ethic against abortion. Discussion of late-term abortion rarity and gender-selective abortion.

04:17:39
Self-ratings round (1-10 looks)

Brian asks everyone to rate their looks 1-10. Northy: 7 (California 7, DC 10/12 joke). Nicole: 8 to 8.5. Carly: 7-8 (implied from order). Arya: declined. Caroline: 4 area (implied). Andrew Wilson: 4. Luce, Kenna: not clearly extracted.

04:18:00
Can you be sexist toward men / misandry debate

Andrew asks panel if misandry exists. Nicole: individual sexism toward men exists but not systemic misandry. Northy: admits she has gone through "I hate men" phase stemming from unresolved trauma. Extended Andrew debate with Nicole on definitions of prejudice vs racism vs misandry. Brian points out Northy insulted Gustavo (staff) calling him a loser during episode.

04:45:35
Moral relativism: necrophilia thought experiment

Andrew Wilson asks Nicole and Luce for their moral justification for why necrophilia is wrong. Nicole says it is wrong because it is personally wrong to her — no universal justification. Andrew pushes: if society democratically allowed it, what grounds to oppose it? Nicole: I would disagree personally; would leave the country. Andrew: this reveals there is no epistemological grounding for secular morality. Extended philosophical debate. Andrew invites Nicole and Luce to come to his studio for a formal 1v1 debate.

05:09:13
Body count round

Brian asks body counts. Luce: under 10 (includes women). Northy: under 10 (explicitly "under 15" in order; some ambiguity). Arya: unclear/declined. Nicole: 1 (lost virginity at 21; couple months into relationship). Carly: 1 (first male partner at ~21 after being a lesbian; girl partners implied but not counted). Isabelle Brown: indirectly declined to answer (already left). Andrew Wilson: declined; chat member (kill cereal) announces being a virgin waiting for marriage.

05:09:15
Would you date a trans woman / trans dating question

Brian asks would you object to a man not wanting to date a trans woman? Nicole: no objection as long as he is not being cruel; it is a personal preference. Discussion of whether post-op trans women are fully indistinguishable. Panel broadly agrees it is an acceptable personal preference without transphobia.

06:15:26
Andrew Wilson closing hot takes

Brian reads out rapid-fire hot takes at show end. Women on dating easy mode vs men; makeup as deception; traditional women deserve traditional treatment; men should not pay on first dates; men with high body counts can desire low body count women; plastic surgery makes women look worse; feminism is about securing female benefits; men have been more oppressed (military conscription argument); no male privilege in totality; age-gap relationships between consenting adults are fine.

Transcript

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04:45:35
Andrew Wilsonconsensus was that you could have sex with a dead body Jesus Christ oh my God this no no no this is to fine why do you why do you the consens stop don't interrupt don't
04:45:47
Nicoleinterrupt don't interrupt she can speak for herself if that was the consensus why shouldn't we do it I would just disagree personally if that's the consensus you would just
04:46:00
Nicoledisagree there's no moral imperative to not screw a dead body because we need to Hon there is a moral imperative to not do that I will take a stand on that what is it I don't know it's wrong you don't know you don't [ __ ] know what the
04:46:11
Northymoral imperative iser you honor the dead that's the moral imp what's that you honor the dead but why is that a moral imperative you're supposed to have honor for the dead you're not supposed to why is that
04:46:22
Nicolea moral imperative because philosophy everyone has different morals there is no Universal moral imperative for anything there's no Universal morals and what's wrong with people screwing dead bodies Lady it's against my morals I don't know
04:46:34
Andrew Wilsonso just your arbitrary there's no moral ground societ so just to get this right I want to make sure I get this right if a society is a democracy V that people are allowed to screw dead bodies
04:46:46
Andrew Wilsonyou have other I personally disagree with that to justify why they I would move I let her answer okay I think I would leave the country I don't think I would like to live in a country I know
04:46:57
Andrew Wilsonbut answer my question you have nothing other than me I my personal opinion this is bad right that that's it that's your entire moral justification so all of
04:47:08
Nicolehuman morality for you comes from your brain and that's it I mean my personal morality does and then we all collectively disc the moral imperative why they shouldn't do
04:47:20
Andrew Wilsonthat I genuinely have never thought about necrophilia I'm sorry that you love thinking about it a guy goes out guy goes out in another country and he digs up Grandma and he bangs Grandma's
04:47:31
Andrew Wilsoncorpse can give me a Mor argument for why that's wrong I would no honestly I just know it's wrong real you you Progressive sucks so bad you suck how is that PR are
04:47:44
Andrew Wilsonyou are you Pro necrophilia are you OPP moral justification I have epistemological grounding I why I would be against something like that you just got done
04:47:56
Andrew Wilsonsaying to me literally you have no moral justification for why someone shouldn't dig up Grandma and screw them that's literally what you just said it's wrong that's my moral justification what's your moral justification it's wrong I personally
04:48:09
Andrew Wilsonbelieve it's wrong based on my own morals I mean it's secular reason you are the Arbiter of all of human morality no that's what democracy is there's no epistemic justification is circular it's wrong cuz it's wrong cuz it's wrong CU
04:48:21
Andrew Wilsonit's wrong cuz it's wrong yeah and you could do the exact because I mean I believe in you're a Christian and you that's your epistemology yes would you like to get into epistemological foundations for why I would love to but I don't think anyone else I don't think
04:48:33
Andrew Wilsonanyone else far better than anything that you just said you just said he could dig up grandon Banger only that put words I would rather not talking about digging up grandmas and banging
04:48:44
Nicolethem because I'm person Banger I'm not I are you you if we're going to accuse anyone of being a grandma Banger I would say let's accuse mil a guil my grandma
04:48:54
Northywas beautiful but please don't do that to her awkward it's bad cuz it's bad the good is the good and the bad God is real because God is real all of it's arbitrated life is arbitrary I don't
04:49:06
Brian Atlasknow what you want me to say I think philosophy and morality is sub I have actually have a proposal Here Andrew is going to be coming in studio next week maybe you guys have like I don't know if
04:49:18
Brian Atlasyou're down Andrew you guys should just do a one-on-one debate why she would lose in 15 minutes it was 15 minutes sounds like you're scared oh are you down you down oh no happily you want to
04:49:31
Andrew Wilsongo in studio have a One V one debate where nobody are we going to be Grill you you can Grill me back sure are we going to be it'll be it'll be well moderated there it'll be uh yeah he's very nice
04:49:44
Brian Atlashe's a sweetheart in person he's a sweetheart right Andrew sure there you go sure let me let me check my work schedule I'll think about it though okay think about it but I think it would just
04:49:53
Andrew Wilsonalso for the sake of tonight's show showing up or 0% you should probably come up with some type some type of epistemology before you come into a debate with me because if you can't
04:50:06
Brian Atlasanswer why you shouldn't bang a dead body other than oh it just gives me the ick I'll start going have a problem in this debate what do you have like any girlfriends what if we like we we make it equal like it's a 3v one so like
04:50:19
Andrew Wilsonthree you and three girlfriends or get your bring your professor oh yeah bring your professor oh yeah no bring your [ __ ] Professor you're bring the profess art major Professor bring him on
04:50:29
Brian AtlasI'm not an Arts major I can't wait we'll we'll talk we'll talk yeah let's let's talk about this you know there's going to be it's going to be a there's going to be a bunch of uh okay anyways let me
04:50:40
Kennado a couple chats I got some more questions we have big SAS energy Maddie can you read this poor favore racism and mandry do not start at the top systemic level systemic is a totally separate
04:50:52
Kennaword at an individual level all these thingss exist against all types of people LOL at College at a college education LOL thank you big sass energy
04:51:01
Kennaappreciate it we have David SC oh Scott okay read it because of feminism is why the courts rule in favor to woman to have full custody of
04:51:12
Kennathe children and the woman gets half of what the man has worked to obtain also women are not at the front lines thank you Scott for your very gener thank you everyone for your very
04:51:22
Kennagenerous uh TTS messages Andrew I Luke and his girlfriend at the time in inada in a Jacuzzi he told me he was a high school basketball coach but knew
04:51:32
Kennahim he was really nice go feminization if balance go yellow who's Luke I'm not sure what Luke no no
04:51:43
Kennafeminization MD can you read this just me Andrew I'll have you know I'm happily married to my wife and her boyfriend you be looking greasy Lately by the way does your shower not work or are you eating don't mute yourself Andrew D hang on
04:51:55
Andrew Wilsonpull up chat back up pull that chat back up wait I'm trying to get it here I'm going to do a split on it Andrew I'll have you know I'm happily married to my wife and her boyfriend change the split oh I'll take
04:52:07
Brian Atlasthe L on the last half of that chat that's fair I'll take take the L in the last half but the first beautiful loved it great job you be looking greasy Lately by the way does your shower not work are you eating too much pizza actually we got some pizza in the studio
04:52:21
Brian Atlasand if you guys want we'll do a little after show little pizza sesh if you guys are down uh let's see here we have living uh on stream on stream Andrew
04:52:30
Andrew Wilsonwanting wait can you read this one Andrew yeah it says uh dear Andrew I happen to have sex with men that's what it says
04:52:41
Andrew Wilsoncan I can I read it okay sure Andrew wanting to plow ancient grandma is cope for how bad his wife is oh you should see what they were just saying about how gingers have no souls godamn that was
04:52:51
Brian Atlascrazy in chat they were saying that all right um uh about wait Kyle Kelce was there a Super Chat from Kyle Kelce I'm
04:53:05
Brian Atlasthinking uh the the read so it's just I don't know if you're you met the threshold read answer is 100 and up TTS is 200 and up that's through streamlabs only for the TTS we'll do super Chats on
04:53:15
Brian AtlasYouTube uh reate 100 and up um it might have not just hit the threshold but uh yeah thank you man also like the video while you're at it couple questions we
04:53:24
Brian Atlastalked about um this is somewhat related uh you mentioned something about women in uh you know joining the volunteer
04:53:33
Brian Atlasarmy um this is something that's come up for are men physically stronger than women women starting with you with me
04:53:43
Kennayeah yes okay what about you yes on average yes yes yeah yes yes yeah okay
04:53:52
Brian Atlasall right nothing there all right and uh we went around on the sexism thing I did actually have one thought on this uh so [ __ ] do we really go back here [ __ ]
04:54:04
Brian Atlasit let's let's do something dating related damn we'll come back to this [ __ ] though we come back we'll come back
04:54:11
Brian Atlasfor sure oh my God oh my God sorry okay W so yeah well anyways do you
04:54:21
Brian Atlasthink men are insecure for caring about a woman's body count starting with you um are insecure for caring yeah do you
04:54:31
Lucethink men are insecure if they care about a woman's body count um I think it would stem from insecurity but everyone's like allowed to have their own
04:54:41
Northypreferences it would stem from insecurity but okay I think that's subjective um because if you have someone that's just going to sleep with anyone due to attraction there's no saying like are they going to do that if
04:54:53
Northythey're in a relationship with you if their body count is high okay so you don't think it's insecure and also I I think it's subjective I think it can be insecure it's like really depends let me
04:55:03
Northyjust tack on another question to this does body count matter should body count matter I don't know if you want to add on to that I think that's also subjective like for me I wouldn't really want to go for a guy who has a high body
04:55:15
Northycount because that just shows me he only values if someone is attractive and if he's just like coming to me and trying to sleep with me then he's not actually valuing me as a person and he doesn't want to get to know me should so then the gal the gal next to you who said
04:55:27
Lucethat it was a state of insecurity that would not apply to you um I think that if as long as the
04:55:34
Luceperson is safe and clean um and you know doesn't put you at any level of risk um and you understand your Dynamic of their
04:55:45
Andrew Wilsonrelationship it doesn't matter me just not so she's not she's not being insecure when she says that she would not want to have a man with a high body
04:55:54
Lucecount right um I think that insecurity shouldn't be a negative word um there's plenty of things I'm insecure about that I don't think are inherently negative I
04:56:05
Lucepersonally would definitely be insecure if a guy had slept with 80 people um but it doesn't mean that I wouldn't date them or it doesn't mean that it matters to me I think it's more okay so then that means that she's
04:56:17
Luceinsecure um you know I I can't speak for her from my perspective I think it comes from a place of insecurity in worrying about um that person only valuing you for appearance but I don't think that in
04:56:29
Northythis case insecurity is a negative connotation if I like had okay so then that would be she's insecure right how am I getting this wrong if I get with someone and they have a high body count there definitely needs to be be a
04:56:40
Northydiscussion where they show me or like tell me hey yeah temptation is there but like it's my decision to reject that and if we have that discussion and they're mature enough to have that disc discussion then fine but right off the bat if someone is just trying to sleep
04:56:53
Kennawith me then that just tells me that they value attraction over anything else here let's get everybody's answers go ahead which which question both okay um I do think body count matters but I don't think it stems from insecurity
04:57:03
Arya Rileynecessarily I think it just just shows that they care I think it's a form of insecurity but like at the same time I think that the more people that you sleep with the more energies that you
04:57:14
Andrew Wilsoncan like attract to yourself so I'm indifferent on that one so would you say that the gal who said that she would not want to sleep with a man with a high body count is coming from a place of
04:57:25
Northyinsecurity then it also comes a from a place of danger where it's like I'm more hangang into the mics it comes from a place of danger where
04:57:36
Arya RileyI'm as well would you say that she's coming from a place insecurity because she just said she wouldn't want to date a man with a high body C I think it's a little bit different for women so no I'm going to say it's not because men are
04:57:48
Arya Rileynotoriously known for sleeping with a lot of women so I don't think that it's insecurity yeah you guys get praised for how many women you can like pull andle that's because it's hard for men to do
04:58:00
Arya Rileythat it's easy for y'all to do that I mean yeah but I'm saying that's my justification of why I don't think it's insecurity for a woman yes for men yeah
04:58:10
Nicoleokay okay I think it depends it could come from a bunch of different emotions like one of them could be insecurity or it could be like a religious thing if you're waiting for marriage you what if they're not religious um what if they're secular but they don't want to wife up
04:58:23
Nicolethe time Town Bicycle then I think it could be insecurity or it could it could just be moral I mean like we all know I have morals outside of religion so it could be morals it could be immoral he's immoral then yeah he doesn't have any
04:58:35
Brian Atlasmorals he just doesn't want to get with a promiscuous woman then yes I think that would be a form of sexual it would be sexual insecurity so would it be sexual insecurity for a man to not want to date a woman who [ __ ] a guy
04:58:47
Nicoleyesterday like date her immediately cuz I feel you sex with her immediately date her immediately not dating I mean if you won't have sex with someone because they had sex with someone like you won't have casual sex with someone because they had sex with someone else yesterday that is
04:59:00
Andrew Wilsonvalid because you there's no way to know their STD status let's even assume okay well let's say they went and got an STD check uh literally right away you had the results it wouldn't be valid it would it takes like two weeks so like
04:59:13
Andrew Wilsonlet's say someone had sex 2 weeks ago and they have a clean clean bill of health what if there's a magical wand okay okay well we could say that about anything no no no it's just let's say she she went she had sex 5 hours ago but
04:59:25
Nicoleshe comes to you and presents you with a clean bill of health then yeah I would say it probably is and like you said I don't think inse I don't think it's necessarily A I think everyone can be insecure in that way like I don't want to be compared to the last person you
04:59:38
Nicolehad sex with so then it would be in I think it's subjective too if it's insecure or if it's like controlling yeah it could also be controlling it could be it could be misogyny it how it
04:59:50
Andrew WilsonI just want to make sure I get this right you have you have two kids and your son he's 16 years old he comes to you and he's like hey Mom listen I
04:59:59
Andrew Wilsonreally like this girl she just [ __ ] a guy 10 hours ago but she did give me a clean bill of health so I'd like to go have sex with her would you say Ah
05:00:11
Nicolethat's fine because you don't want to be insecure I think it's weird to talk to your mom about that yeah no I I'm derailed okay I would not no I wouldn't call my son I no I wouldn't say it would be insecure not to
05:00:23
Andrew Wilsondo that I would say make your make your own decision no no I wouldn't oh okay so so but but that would be coming from a place of insecurity from your son right well I thought he wanted to have sex with her sure in this particular case
05:00:36
Andrew Wilsonthe guy wanted to have sex with her until he found out that she had sex with another person just a few hours prior you said that was insecurity I wouldn't tell him that if it was my son but I think it definitely could be coming from a place of insecurity yeah every person
05:00:49
Andrew Wilsonis different your son's just being insecure that little bastard maybe I don't know him I think most secure thing you could do if you really wanted to be secure in your masculinity is go rail that [ __ ] braad that you wanted to
05:01:02
Lucerail who just [ __ ] another guy 10 hours ago that would be the most secure thing he could do I think everyone has different boundaries as well in terms of of like choosing a sexual partner okay so do you agree it's wrong in the in the
05:01:14
Luceopposite direction um would it be okay for me to deny having sex with a man knowing that he has another sexual partner currently yes yeah so then that's just your perspective of
05:01:25
Luceinsecurity but for me I only wouldn't do it because I'm insecure no but I I would only noty that's not insecurity I would only be wary of a body count based off
05:01:35
Luceof my own personal insecurity of not fulfilling the type of intimacy that they are seeking whether they've had a lot of sexual partners due to you know a
05:01:45
Lucesex addiction or due to Corn consumption or anything else it would be coming from a place of insecurity for me personally but I'm not saying for everyone but for me person I'll Grant all of that as
05:01:57
Andrew Wilsonbeing true and I'll ask you the same exact question your 16-year-old son comes to you and let's say he's 18 and he says I really like this girl and I
05:02:06
Andrew Wilsonreally wanted to rail her but you know Mom she [ __ ] another dude 10 hours ago and that just kind of grosses me out that would be him being
05:02:17
Luceinsecure um I would say if you really like her and you're willing to have an open conversation with her about exclusivity or not continuing that um then you should but if it's something
05:02:30
Lucethat makes you feel insecure which I think if there's no risk um no risk of STDs no risk of anything just gross I mean to me to me it's gross but I think
05:02:42
Luceit comes from a place of insecurity what what's the difference between having sex yesterday and me having sex 2 years ago so then if someone had a body count of 80 but hasn't had sex in 10 years does
05:02:53
Lucethat so then backing that up the Sor can I offer my question well you just answer no no no I'm offering a question if I say hypothetically there's a person who has a body count of 80 people but
05:03:06
Lucethey've been abstinent for 5 years are they less gross than a girl who has a body count of two who had sex yesterday yes because they've been absent for 10 years even though their body counts 80 that's still less gross yeah than
05:03:18
Andrew Wilson[ __ ] a chick who might still have another man's jizz in her now back why are you assuming she's having sex going back the other direction then from your from your particular logic let's just go over your particular logic here if that
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Andrew Wilsonis a place of insecurity then wouldn't it not be true that the most secure thing he could do if he liked this girl and he really wanted to rail her and she really wanted to have sex with him and he just said I was a little bit grossed out by it the most secure thing he could
05:03:43
Lucedo would be to have sex with it right I think the original argument was just asking if caring about body count was insecurity which I agree I know the original argument was can you answer my question yeah I'm answering I don't think that it's a more secure thing
05:03:54
Lucebecause it's a completely different conversation as have someone having sex you know a couple hours ago is a different conversation gross in different ways it's gross in different concept so I I'm not saying that that is insecurity I'm saying the original
05:04:07
Luceargument stems from insecurity to to some level um but I think it's totally valid and I don't think it's insecure to choose to not to have sex with someone who is just sexually active um but I think for some people it could be an
05:04:21
Andrew Wilsoninsecurity thing for me it would be a hygiene ISS okay so now we get into Nuance so let me ask you this why would it be insecure if this is the case and you they have this preference and they say no you say that's not insecurity and
05:04:33
Andrew Wilsonit's not the most secure thing you could do to then have sex with that person why would it be insecure if they extrapolated that out over more
05:04:41
Lucetime um I believe the insecurity comes in the format of caring about the actual amount quantity of sexual partners and the only reason I have that perspective is because for me personally it comes
05:04:54
Andrew Wilsonfrom a place of insecurity okay yeah I I know that you keep saying that yeah but what's question I still haven't actually I still haven't gotten actually an answer to this first you said it was insecure of him not to do this thing from 10
05:05:07
Andrew Wilsonhours ago they had a clean bill of health then you said no I well wait it's not the most secure thing they could do I didn't say it was I didn't you're telling me I said something that I
05:05:18
Andrew Wilsondidn't say and if you replayed any of what I had just said I did not say that I said just ask you yes or no I'm not going to give you any loaded questions I
05:05:28
Andrew Wilsonpromise none of them will simp yes or no yes or no is it insecure if your son came to you he's 18 years old he said
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Andrew Wilsonhey this woman I really really really like really like her she really likes me had sex 10 hours ago and that grosses me out so I don't want to have sex with
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Luceher I would say that's no problem and you should wait um and see that's not my question is it
05:05:57
Andrew Wilsoninsecure not if no not if it's a hygiene issue no okay great well okay hygiene issue she has a clean of Health she has a clean I told you it's baked in she has
05:06:09
Andrew Wilsona clean bill of health there's no hygiene issue what if her pH he just is gross hang on he's he's just grossed out he's just gross the [ __ ] out by it is
05:06:20
Andrew Wilsonthat insecure that he doesn't want to hump a chick who's full of another man's J that's totally fine I think this also dives into having standards now I think she needs to answer the question answer
05:06:31
Andrew Wilsonmy question is it insecure of him to not want I already answered your question I said no it's not insecure of him yeah but hgic issue I'm saying there's no HG
05:06:42
Luceissue present these these conversations go through a plethora of different components did he have sex 10 hours ago that's [ __ ] disgusting he didn't if
05:06:51
Lucehe didn't have sex 10 hours ago then it is is not coming from insecurity but if he had sex yesterday and he's judging her for having sex yesterday it does come from a place of insecurity does that make sense so then if he's chased
05:07:04
Andrew Wilsonand she's not chased and he doesn't want to have sex with her over a 5-year plan wouldn't that be the same exact logic applied and he's not being insecure I have no idea what you just
05:07:15
Andrew Wilsonsaid I know you don't but I'll try it again assume that this is extrapolated over 5 years and he has Chastity and she doesn't not have Chastity and he finds
05:07:26
Andrew Wilsonout she's slept with 60 men how does the same logic not apply here for his preference um I think it is a different
05:07:36
Andrew Wilsonscenario it's a different well but it's the same logic applied to the scenario okay so hypothetically MH as I said earlier you
05:07:48
Lucesaid it would be better if someone had been absent in for 5 years but had a body count of 80 versus say anything about better I was testing your logic you weren't testing
05:07:58
Brian Atlasmine okay anyways thank you so much had a great night wait we got more questions got more questions here okay body count so did we go all the way around on body
05:08:10
Brian Atlascount no no you answered right I don't remember honestly I think you answered correct you're too far away from the mic yes it does matter it it might be helpful if you scoot your chair into the table but okay what's your answer um yeah it does matter wait you never you
05:08:22
TTS/Andrew Wilson (alt segment)never revealed by the way you are yes a virgin and I'm waiting for marriage oh okay look at that oh look at that kill cereal cereal donated
05:08:33
TTS/Andrew Wilson (alt segment)$200 a woman insecure for having a high body count while saying a guy is insecure for caring about about it what reason does woman have for jeopardizing her selfworth by whoring out to live out
05:08:45
Brian Atlasof her means anybody want to bite on that I have a question afterwards
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Brian Atlasno anybody no fer
05:09:02
Brian Atlasfer Sor kill cial I don't know they don't get it um okay nobody bite what women insecure for having a high body count while saying a guy's insecure for caring about what
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Brian Atlasreason does women have for jeopard okay um some of you said body count doesn't matter shouldn't matter whatever uh what's your body count starting with you go
05:09:23
Brian Atlasahead um under 10 under 10 I can count it on one hand five clarify mine includes women as well incl includes women do you want to give
05:09:35
Kennathe number or no under 10 under 10 not something I'm comfortable sharing to the internet rule number 76 no excuses play
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Brian AtlasLike A Champion say what you want under 15 under 50 15 under 50 EXC whoa 15 oh
05:09:54
Brian Atlasmy God I'm death okay what what about you one wait really
05:10:04
Nicoleyeah was it good I didn't didn't fire happen one time but my though count would be one was that your 1.5 year
05:10:13
Brian Atlasrelationship yeah okay up wait so you lost your virginity at like 21 yeah oh Late Bloomer okay there you
05:10:22
Brian Atlasgo hey it's fine late bloomers yeah H okay all right why uh just curious why did it uh were you waiting for the right guy yeah exactly maybe I don't know
05:10:34
Brian Atlasright woman no she's not interested in casual sex like right woman it was the guyy it was a guy it was Guy okay uh you're not interested in casual sex did you want to wait until you were in love
05:10:46
Nicoleor did did you just want the right guy yeah just the right guy I I don't think it fact like love didn't really factor into it as in terms of like why weight but like just not an interest in like
05:10:57
Brian Atlashooking up when you did find that right guy like how long into the like how long into knowing him until you guys had carnal knowledge um a couple months I
05:11:07
Carlythink couple months okay was he also virgin or no no no okay H all right uh what about you um girls for uh guy one we'll do both why not how many how many
05:11:20
Brian Atlasladies have you I feel like you got Riz you like be just smashing all the all the birds smashing all the birds the ladies the the ladies oh you're just into the mic though tell us tell us
05:11:32
Brian Atlasabout all the Riz Adventures R Adventures yeah you just been dude you went you ran through the girls right you ran through them with your RZ with your Shades you're just rizing them up
05:11:43
Brian Atlassunglasses indoors sunglasses at night doesn't matter the Riz God the Riz King they give them the smold day right yeah bro be honest wait question just like
05:11:54
Brian Atlasbetween like between boys right like Ines or outies wait what Ines or outies what do you prefer Ines Ines or outies what do you prefer oh my gosh in ories
05:12:04
Brian Atlaswhat do you prefer I mean the was kind of new so new yeah what do you mean new what are you talking about are we talking about p&v no do you have a penis you have a penis no you have a penis no
05:12:17
Brian Atlasokay cool wait but labia you you had a preference for Ines or outies you know like women like straight women you all have preferences for penis size right oh like you guys sometimes you want a big
05:12:28
Brian Atlaspen medium pen typically you don't want never mess with a small pen wow racist really personality first that's racist personality first personality first yeah small pen losers I don't [ __ ] with him
05:12:41
Brian Atlasyikes you're going to get you're going to get some comments for that for that one wait so what do you prefer well right now I guess no back back with the with the
05:12:51
Northyladies um you didn't have a preference like bottom top like no labia preference like do you like a big vagina do you like [ __ ] preference large labia do you
05:13:02
Brian Atlaslike you like it when it's hammy you know I don't really have a preference no preference you didn't care no I didn't care to that probably okay what about
05:13:11
Brian Atlasyou oh wait zero wait oh yeah zero body count zero are you still I'm in a relationship all right they know what it
05:13:21
Brian Atlasis they know what it is if you know what it is really you don't you you don't like small pens that's racist dog she's also Pro
05:13:32
Brian Atlasshe said I'm Pro [ __ ] oh my God damn that shit's [ __ ] up man Rip's in the chat for the boys okay we have sarcastic Decay here hey Brian world word salad girl plays the victim card whenever there's push back
05:13:45
Brian Atlaswhat a brat props to the other panelist for not being Bratz and not pouting all show anyway autistic ear has 1210 glasses based as [ __ ] too also hi Gustavo I apologize it's just my face
05:13:57
LuceI'm not trying to pout I'm just really tired I think I just look like this I swear wait wait wait I'm I'm I'm RBF contest go into look into this mic right here
05:14:08
Lucethat's a camera that's not RBF that's just like scary I just I I do have RBF and I apologize I'm not at all trying to be bratty I also don't think I'm I'm really
05:14:18
Brian Atlastrying to play the victim card I'm just being a devil's advocate the same way you are yeah she's that was pretty demonic though I I'll agree with that that was tough that was
05:14:29
Northysome but at least you're not a brat apparently I hate brats I know wait what about me though I love you okay good what about me though I love you too I'm wiow weed or daddy
05:14:40
NorthyI'm widy daddy did you um did you see my viral video on Time Square no it's my turf you know that one what you're got like a
05:14:51
Northyfetish or something this is this is for um my the [ __ ] my big dog my British big dog you know I don't there therapist for that he taught me everything I know um
05:15:04
Northyno so like I went viral in Time Square for like barking and it was really funny beautiful thank you that's beautiful what what time we live in and then I I was with Matthew Sil and he was screaming at me I made Nick a promise to
05:15:15
Brian Atlasnot go talk about this route but because of this panel I just I have to I got to talk about this um and this is dating related
05:15:25
Brian Atlasokay uh would you object to a man not wanting to date a transwoman starting
05:15:36
Brian Atlaswith you oh boy would I would like would I not date him because of that no no no would you object to a man not wanting to like Gustavo here if he was like yeah I I don't think I would date a transom
05:15:48
Nicolewould you object to that no as long as he's not like being transphobic unnecessarily and like being unkind to trans women if that's just like a personal preference I think that's that's fine well the the personal
05:16:00
Brian Atlaspreference is he wouldn't he's not being transphobic or rude or mean in any way but he he would say essentially I wouldn't date them because they're trans I mean I think it probably comes from a
05:16:11
Nicolelike a place of just like bias but I mean I can't say that someone needs to date someone that they're not comfortable dating like okay I think yeah if they're completely postop and
05:16:22
Brian Atlaslike completely indistinguishable maybe I would like is that possible I don't think that's possible to be 100% indistinguishable and if they still were really opposed to it maybe I would question of but no in general no
05:16:34
Brian Atlaswell let's let's assume that's the case they've gotten surgery and they're taking hormones they've gotten breast implants and wigs or I don't know the uh
05:16:45
Nicolethey got the the bottom surgery and then the the man still doesn't want to date them I mean I still can't really object to like someone's personal dating preferences you know going around the
05:16:55
Lucetable on this um there will be plenty of men who want to so it's okay if some men are uninterested in that there's so many factors that go into dating preferences you know maybe their goal is biological
05:17:07
Lucechildren and you can't do that with um a transgender individual I think those type of dating preferences as long as they're non-discriminatory are no problem would it be dis it would be
05:17:17
Lucediscriminat but discriminatory not in a bigotry sense it's not in a hateful way it's just a preference I think it's weird to tell other people what to do with their bodies and what they subject themselves
05:17:29
Andrew Wilsonto so I agree with loose with what she said no preferences just don't be rude would that include um to the uh to the redhead um I'm sorry I'm terrible with names please don't hold that against me
05:17:42
Andrew WilsonI'm holding it against ger her name's ger ger I'm sorry call her I'm sorry ger would that include uning you don't care if people un alive themselves because
05:17:52
Northyit's their body what what okay wa good night hold on sit down sit down sit down sit down this is actually a topic that I don't really feel comfortable talking about I lost someone to you can convince
05:18:03
Brian Atlasher Nick you got it uning you can you can convince her get her a slice of pizza get her a slice of pizza a C4 and some um some uh tater tots okay she'll
05:18:15
Northybe fine uh what about your answer one of my brownies what about your answer we talking about 100% stra I honestly didn't even feel like that was a very invasive question I I understand that you feel it's not invasive but I person
05:18:27
Brian Atlaslost we're moving on we're moving on answer the question no that's just no I wouldn't do to trans man damn that's
05:18:35
Brian Atlascrazy Madison you're a [ __ ] bigot then I'm a bigot get her some tater tots she'll be fine get maybe a blanket a
05:18:45
Brian Atlaslittle blankie get her blanket get her some tater tots um mashed potatoes even get maybe even oh
05:18:53
Northyoh you got it look at this sorry wait I got you don't worry this whoa okay L tension okay it's okay my my my roommate
05:19:04
Lucemy roommate told me to take you home no what my roommate told my roommate told me that you're my our new roommate so she loves you um in my opinion um unal
05:19:16
Luceliving wait wait just don't even don't even don't even guys that was the best that was the best part of my night that was the best part of my night what was the best part of your night my little
05:19:25
Brian Atlaskiss anyways I think to equate are you guys going to smash after this I think to equate um I think there's a little
05:19:34
Lucelittle chemistry here little chemistry I wanton deny um to equate unal living yourself to an issue of not
05:19:47
Lucecaring about oh my God don't okay go ahead can we can we just move on to the next question no I'm trying to move on Buto oh oh sorry sorry we can move on it just was it's a sensitive subject for me it's fine it's fine okay so related to
05:19:57
Northythe trans thing though um so okay still related to dating is it would it be straight God damn I promis I wouldn't even go okay oh my God I promise Nick I promise you're breaking a promise right
05:20:10
Northynow it is it's getting hot in here so take all your clothes I am getting so hot I'm
05:20:19
Northygoing to take my clothes off excuse me you're excuse that was fire so whatever what the [ __ ] what the
05:20:30
Brian Atlasheck wow get would it be would it be straight for is it straight for
05:20:39
Lucea a a man to date a trans woman last this is the last time I'm ever asking this question yeah because she's like identifying as a woman in a
05:20:51
Northywoman's body and it's like perceived as a heterosexual relationship so I I would consider that straight let's get everybody's answers on I would say that's a trans relationship but that's also subjective to the people and I don't feel like I'm not a trans person
05:21:02
Arya Rileyso I can't really Define it myself word no biologically that's not how that works not straight okay if she still has a penis then no what if there is no pen I'd say it's pretty straight pretty
05:21:14
Nicolestraight okay yeah I think it's straight straight what if if there's a pen straight I would question a straight man who would have sex with someone with a penis I would
05:21:27
Nicolequestion if they were fully straight but if they said they were fully straight then like oh [ __ ] I don't know I mean damn Andrew's losing his mind over there okay what about you no not straight no
05:21:38
Brian Atlasno notra not straight MD not straight out all right not straight so you said straight you said could be straight you said straight regardless of the yeah I
05:21:49
Lucethink it's straight I I reframe to say that I'm I'm just not trans so I can't like Define their relationship um but I also think sexuality is something that's so fluid and like plenty of straight
05:22:00
Northypeople experiment with you know different types of relationships it's not gay if you only suck dick huh
05:22:10
Brian Atlassorry it's like the song suck but okay so straight it's a short form slaying do you guys agree that straight is short form slaying for
05:22:20
Andrew Wilsonheterosexual yeah okay so how could it ever be heterosexual I I I can just ask this one question around the panel if if you'll humor me Brian MH without using
05:22:30
Lucethe word gender what does the word homosexual mean a homo sorry damn same sex same sex attraction has nothing
05:22:42
Luceto do with gender but rather sex biological sex I got bullied in high school I can use the lur so heterosexual would be based on
05:22:51
Andrew Wilsonbiological sex as well from a um just definition standpoint yes yes okay so it wouldn't be straight hom what what what is what is the definition of homosexual cross across the
05:23:04
Nicoleboard a homo sorry I'm tired say like in my silly like Rel it's same sex attraction but if if someone transitions to the point
05:23:15
Nicolewhere you perceive them to be that gender you don't know you got this Nick you don't know you don't know what their biological sex is you can say that oh I can always tell whatever but like if you really can't perceive their biological
05:23:27
Andrew Wilsonsex then how can you say it's not straight if they don't know what if you can perceive their biological sex I like to think that other people's relationships are not of my no no no hang on what if you can perceive their
05:23:38
Andrew Wilsonbi ological sex what if you can why do why does it matter that much to you you know like I just think let these people live their Liv logic whether it matters or not you framework is relevant testing
05:23:50
Andrew Wilsonher logic I know I know you need to jump in every time I'm talking to someone else but I'm not talking to you right now okay so I'm asking going to ask her again if it's okay with you your majesty
05:24:00
Nicoleif she can explain what she means when I ask her what if you do know what her biological sex is well personally I would Define it as same gender attraction but you said we can't say
05:24:12
Nicolegender so I mean like yeah in that case I guess it I mean if we have to strictly go based off sex then no it wouldn't be heterosexual but that's not how I view same sex attraction and is gender a social
05:24:24
Northyconstruction tilted sorry W it takes [ __ ] three women's oh my God at least we change a light bulb put our brains together sorry what' you say is gender a social
05:24:35
Nicoleconstruction um yes I think and did we agree earlier that social constructions don't actually exist in material reality yeah so then I mean does heterosexuality exists does homosexuality exist like I
05:24:48
Andrew Wilsondon't well yeah those are biological terms for instance if you were to determine that two animals were homosexual animals how would you do so show if we determined how they by
05:25:00
Andrew Wilsonlike biological sex because animals don't have gender oh like and are are human beings animals yes oh well then I guess we can Det determine who's a homosexual and who isn't just like every
05:25:11
Nicoleother animal can't we I mean you could say that but I mean still like in inexperienced people who identify as straight can date trans people and still identify as straight like you can tell them that they're not you're identifying
05:25:22
Nicolebased on a social construction correct yeah and they're and they're attracted to social constrction of someone else's gender I don't know so so how would you
05:25:31
Nicoleidentify if two elephants were engaged in a homosexual act I I would identify their their penises their p and and P and B excuse me it seems like it's
05:25:44
Nicolepretty simple right and we're animals just like elephants right well yeah but we have elephants can't do social constructs we can so it's a little more new that's right but social constructs don't exist in material reality remember
05:25:57
NicoleI didn't say that those that [ __ ] we just make up it's a little more nuanced for humans I think I think if someone says they're straight and they want to die on that hill then so be it they're
05:26:06
Andrew Wilsonstraight I can't tell them they're not yeah but why not CU I have no it just means heterosexual or opposite sex we do know what that means if you were to identify that two elephants were
05:26:18
Andrew Wilsonheterosexuals what would you be looking for I already said what I'd be looking for I'd be looking for that their biological sex but we're not elephants and why is it that that does not apply to humans just because they claim the
05:26:30
Nicoleopposite of what is reality because humans are not elephants we have Minds that can construct things like gender and gender identity gender we can construct these things which do not
05:26:41
Andrew Wilsonexist however what is theit you think gender identity doesn't exist all why is it why is it that if two elephants had sex with each other you can say it's homosexual or heterosexual or heterosexual sex based on the sex but
05:26:53
Andrew Wilsonfor some reason you can't make that determination with humans because we're not elephants and we actually do have gender identities and if you look at someone and it's an identity it does not
05:27:05
Luceexist absent the mind what about people that are born interex or um both gendered which is aage relative majority of our population like and they choose
05:27:16
Luceto transition to one or the other so biologically they are technically both um say I was born inter would I not be a straight would I not be in a straight relationship if I was inter let me just
05:27:28
Andrew Wilsongrant for a second that interex people are a third sex sure 99% of transgender people do not identify and nor are they interx so this would still be begging
05:27:41
Andrew Wilsonthe question even if I granted to you that there was a third sex which there isn't but I just assumed that there was based on interex Dynamic 99% of trans
05:27:50
Luceidentity do not come from interex biology so we're how would you discuss um the double Al Theory so the double x Double Y chromosome that exists
05:28:01
Lucebiologically um it's been linked to um homosexuality as well as being transgender people born with double X or Double Y chromosome um are physically
05:28:12
Lucemore feminine no actually there are people who are not born interx that do carry um more male bi biology or more female biology a perfect example is
05:28:21
Lucecasor Sania um biological female track and field Runner uh let's just grant all of that what is the percentage of trans people who hold such conditions um I I
05:28:32
Lucewould love to no but my my point is she's a biolog I'll just grant all of the outliers I
05:28:43
Lucewill just grant that I am right all the time and that women have no perspective of the trans community and can have no
05:28:52
Luceinput AR and then think about zebras guys literally ever thought about a zey you can't even see zebras they blend together i' never thought up that was
05:29:04
Andrew Wilsonthat was so sorry that was that was Nick back there let's let's TR try this again I'm granting everything you're saying as true which is still irrelevant to my argument can we talk about something
05:29:15
Andrew Wilsonelse so assuming for a second let's say it's let's say it's 20% of trans people have an interex condition why are you so obsessed with trans people not being able to identif trans can just like
05:29:26
Nicoleexist and that's okay their who cares I'm trying well I care or be asking no I have an actual question if a guy says he's straight but he's [ __ ] a transom and that makes him Gay and and you're
05:29:38
Andrew Wilsonmind like why does it bother you that he is falsely identifying a straight you're Co-op I'm I'm actually curious Andrew that's actually awesome
05:29:49
Nicolethat you just said why does it bother you that he falsely identifi in in your logic it's false because we're elephants and we can only identify based on
05:29:58
Nicolebiological sex why Isom why a has a meaning and the meaning is what no I'm saying if it is false according to you I'm I'm you that it's false why is it a problem that someone is cuz like I
05:30:11
Andrew Wilsonpersonally like I'm bisexual I didn't know that for a long time so so I'll explain why okay besides my epistemology saying that it's a moral from the
05:30:20
Andrew WilsonChristian ethic let me also reiterate that it is a lie and so if unless you're saying that we should utilize lies for the greater good of society are you
05:30:31
TTS/Andrew Wilson (alt segment)making that claim I'm so glad I'm not dating donated $200 there's five Men about to break into your house to assault you all six
05:30:41
TTS/Andrew Wilson (alt segment)175 plus you can choose five wom at the table your choice or Brian sure six apostrophe
05:30:51
Brian Atlas8454 who has the best chance of protecting you who is Bri do they have a firearm is there a firearm let's just assume there's not I think no I'm so glad I'm not dating is there firearm
05:31:04
Nicoleguys we're woman we have a kitchen we have Soup cans we'll be okay I honestly I don't think either either group could protect me against five men I don't think five women could and I don't think you alone could it's not me oh you're
05:31:16
Brian Atlasnot Bri I'm just dying no Brian Shaw he's 68 who can we see who is Brian Shaw I'm sorry I'm sorry uh he's 68 is your name Brian 400 it is Brian but he's talking about a different Brian I guess
05:31:28
Brian Atlasokay great example there how about Brock Lesnar that would have been better um who's not as big as Brian Shaw I guess Brian Shaw 68 454 sounds who has the best chance of
05:31:40
Brian Atlasprotecting I feel like you could send one of the girls to go get help so I don't know okay I I don't know what Brian shot looks like is he like a MMA can you restate your question Andrew to her and but I do want to move on pretty
05:31:51
Andrew Wilsonsoon if you guys can sure sure yeah yeah no problem so my question is do you think that lying is good for society no I don't think it's good for society okay so then why should I tell a lie why
05:32:04
TTS/Andrew Wilson (alt segment)should you tell you shouldn't I mean no one should so keep religion out of life donated $200 Brian you get so worked up for
05:32:14
TTS/Andrew Wilson (alt segment)people not answering questions like age Etc so what's your body count don't be bad faith based off this clip zero explain
05:32:27
Brian AtlasPlaza okay what what's your body count what's your body count what's your body count hold on well there's a couple things there first off dude we can't pull up
05:32:38
Brian Atlaslike links that you send in we don't do that um that's not part of the uh TTS but uh for people not answering questions like he what's your body count I don't answer the body count question so I don't there's not really high is it
05:32:50
Lucedouble digits why he thinks it's based off this clip zero do you feel like do you feel like that's not being authentic like do you feel like you're taking away from authenticity and honesty um and
05:33:01
Luceyour contributing to a lying society when you don't share your body count on this platform well your AR well no that wouldn't be a lie if he doesn't share it
05:33:11
Andrew Wilsonsure you're you are right right so why was it wrong for her to not share her age that particular case what he said was that the rules of the platform were
05:33:21
Andrew Wilsonthat he wanted to have openness from his guests that does not require him to instead also be open none of these things are lies nor are none of them uh
05:33:31
Andrew Wilsonstated under false pretenses if you can assert how they are I'd love to hear it 34 yeah nothing so if we back I clarifi I
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Luceclarified that I was just being being being funnily condescending I I was not founded in like a genuine I was being funnily condescending back oh okay Word
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NorthyLife is Beautiful what do we I love when we connect like this oh my gosh is he making eyes at you right now oh my God he got that perfect wife at home no
05:34:03
Brian Atlashe totally was not making eyes at her right now what do we so um Andrew if you're fine with it I'll just move on unless you do want we move if you if you want to make another Point
05:34:15
Brian Atlasthat's fine but it's not a it's not a big deal we we'll move it on uh is lying hiding something about yourself say your age or fake boobs or Freckle tattoos just as bad as your significant other
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Northyhiding something from you like cheating on you I think if it is in terms of having a significant other like yeah you're lying like you could lie about debt that's still bad it shows dishonesty and distrust and it's going to build distrust in the relationship I
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Lucedefinitely think cheating is worse though yeah me too absolutely yeah some lies are worse than others I would agree um yeah but I think any like any regret I've ever had has always kind of been founded in
05:34:51
Brian Atlasdishonesty I think it's just best to like go in have you ever cheated on somebody never okay uh Nick we're going to pull up her dating app profile it's not mine oh wait sorry it's mine oh my
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Brian AtlasGod sorry I got my wires crossed there guys we're doing a segment called dating review this is our dear friend uh northy yeah a random fact I love is don't match
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Northywith me if you're on some I assume this means white supremacy BS I'm not the one I had I had like a really big issue with like people only matching with me because I have like white skin and light eyes and it just like did not how would
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Northyyou know that because like people say it they would like I would like start talking to them and they would text me and then they just be like you know what F black people though and I'm like what the hell yeah like happen so I can
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Andrew Wilsontotally understand that I can completely understand I had to put it in there black people blah blah blah blah blah but what if they're it's just their preference their preferences are just
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Northythat's it was it was definitely like really nasty kind of discussions that they were trying to how many people did this like two I was going to say cuz I've never experienced that more than
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Northytwo like two to five three out of the thousands of people you see on dating apps I'm like so bad at them though and I barely talk to anyone and it just happens the people I do talk to just like really like not great well
05:36:12
Andrew Wilsonto be to be fair I I having gone on a different show that was a dating podcast it was brought to my attention that there are men who hyper fetishize
05:36:22
Andrew Wilsonredheads or anybody who has that type of complexion even with my eyes they see them as they see them as being associated with that Community this is
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Northywhat I'm told I don't know if that's true or not but this is what I'm told and my eye color is like they're they're not really blue they're more like a gray and I'm Norwegian on top of that so it's like I'm like the prime thing that they
05:36:45
Andrew Wilsonlook wait is that your natural hair color I'm naturally a strawberry blonde so that's so it's not your natural she got the complection the complection where if you have the red hair it can look enough like it because the freckles
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Northyand this and that that that would be Associated and that seems to be enough for some of these people yeah it's it was it was getting like so crazy and I I honestly don't even like dating apps I meet people more organically and like
05:37:09
Brian Atlasmake friends that way more fun word oh the profile let's pull it back up okay so it's would you swipe on her yes would you swipe yes or would you swipe no
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Brian Atlasnext oh what the [ __ ] I'm swiping yes for sure yes swipe on me I'll bark be silly little guys okay next or I think that's it right no that's all right
05:37:30
Brian Atlasthat's you looking like a lunatic in a library I guess it was a bookstore and there's had a concert I'm like oh my God it's not that bad Brian it's not that bad not that bad I mean the we've seen
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Northyworse we've seen way worse we have seen way wait who so I have the goofy picture on there because like I in a partner I need someone that's also goofy you need a goofy partner like I need someone that can make me laugh if you can't make me
05:37:53
Brian Atlaslaugh I just I get bored like no thank you I don't know I don't know I just feel like we should make her laugh look we've had a lot of love connections laugh so much tonight go we've had a lot
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Brian Atlasof love connections on the whatever podcast and I just get I don't know I think there's I think there's something are we best friends now yeah I
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Northythink so we both know Rudy stop it get some help Rudy would be like be you you were making out before you even knew each other I mean we didn't make out that was a perfectly perfectly respect
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NorthyI'm kidding calm down calm down I'm kidding relax perfectly respectable yeah I did yes would you bark for me
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Northywhat the this is gting wait maybe not no no Nick would you bug for me she's she's my no be honest would you bark for me Nick bark dude bark for me don't do it wait Nick don't do it come here boy Nick
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Brian Atlasno don't do it no Nick don't do it don't do it don't do it bark for this is some curse [ __ ] me come here Cur no it's okay you'll get blessed damn bro she's going to Peg you next thing she's going to Peg
05:39:01
Brian Atlasyou I'll get my strap babych it's okay baby girl you can bark for me are you guys going to like make out right now is that what's about to happen no threeway make
05:39:10
Luceout Bark for me don't be shy bro this game I know you hear me dude you had her in the bag you're about to Fumble her with this barking [ __ ] much I don't know
05:39:22
LuceI feel like I have to be like the top cuz I'm tall yeah you do have to this is a first in whatever podcast really this is the first I think have we had bring
05:39:32
Luceout the on the lip guys raise your hand if girl here who's ever pecked another girl on the lips I love
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Brian Atlasit okay let me get through some of my pre-show notes here I'll try I'll try to wrap up I do have pre a lot of pre-show notes that we haven't even got to yet so
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Brian AtlasI'll try my best to do it as quickly as possible um so Caroline uh so you said you're a virgin you're waiting for marriage um are you religious Christian
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Brian AtlasCatholic Catholic Catholic okay um you said B Catholic Bas Catholic Bas Catholic uh just saying can you tell us like the 10-second version of your L love
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Carolinetriangle story really quick um did you fart medic I'm sorry God I sent him my word person that farts on the whatever
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Carolinepodcast I have farted before this was my shortest relationship it was two weeks um this guy who was 26 I was 23 um was inviting me all the time
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Carolineto to the restaurant that he managed or was the bar manager at and he was also hooking up with the waitress in the bender and not telling any of us and he asked me to be his girlfriend I think I
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Carolinewas his girlfriend for like a week and then um the waitress asked me what we were I said oh he's my boyfriend she said oh we just hooked up like 30 minutes ago I was like never mind he's
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Carolinenot uh that's fine um I told him you know like yeah we're done he was literally like shaking when all three of us were talking cuz he was like telling all of us different stories like oh she doesn't like you into the mic he he
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Carolinewould be like telling each of us oh that girl doesn't like you cuz of like he would give other reasons that didn't make sense and I was just like well that's odd I wasn't even asking about her and she wouldn't be asking about me and he was like this girl's always coming to hang out with me at the