She Dated DRAKE?! Gold Digger?! $5,000,000/Year To Date Her?! Prison Dating?! | Dating Talk #259

Date: 2025-09-08
Duration: 8h 18m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_03Erica (Oregon)(guest)
SPEAKER_04Alex (TTI)(guest)
SPEAKER_05Arada(guest)
SPEAKER_06Kylie (Gap Year)(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_09Chloe (Mercedes)(guest)
SPEAKER_11Gati(guest)
SPEAKER_12Bailey (Drake)(guest)
SPEAKER_14Queen D(guest)

Key Moments

00:04:24
IntroAll guests introduced. Bailey claims Drake twin flame.
00:24:54
Key MomentBailey: identified Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt reincarnations who wanted to date her
02:16:00
Key MomentChloe: ~70-100 sugar daddies, $300K total. 75yo sponsor paid $80-85K.
02:37:07
QuoteBrian calls Chloe 'basically a prostitute'
05:21:00
ControversyArada demands $5M/yr minimum and 6'2" minimum height
07:15:45
Key MomentWrestling match challenge: Arada vs producer Nick after she claims women as strong as men

Topics Discussed

00:04:24
Guest Introductions

Including Bailey who claims Drake is her twin flame and identifies reincarnated presidents.

02:16:00
Sugar Dating Deep Dive

Chloe's 70-100 arrangements, $300K total, 75yo sponsor.

03:06:00
Self-Ratings and AI Photos

Ratings, aging photos, gender swap.

05:21:00
Income/Height Requirements

Arada wants $5M/yr and 6'2". Bailey wants $1M.

05:47:36
Bear vs Man

Most choose bear. Brian draws racism parallel.

06:06:00
Body Count Round

Chloe 50+. Gati ~40. Arada 13. Erica 7.

Transcript

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05:55:50
Brian Atlas>> okay so then I'll give you a different example then Um, oh boy. Like for >> So, okay, really quick on the on the rape thing. So, >> first off, very very like I think it's
05:56:00
Brian Atlasless than one 1% of men would ever commit this crime. You can look at crime statistics that will back this up. Additionally, this is a very con convenient feminist statistic.
05:56:12
Brian AtlasIf the definition makes it impossible for the woman to commit the crime, then of course by definition only if only men can commit the crime, which is the case
05:56:24
Brian Atlasin a lot of the way that that the legally and for criminal justice purposes, the definition makes it impossible for women to commit the crime. Wouldn't it make sense then that yeah, 99% of people who rape are men?
05:56:37
Brian Atlas>> It's not impossible for women to rape women. >> Women Hold on. But if you look at jurisdictional definitions of the crime of rape, it literally is impossible for women to that women can commit other
05:56:49
Brian Atlasforms of sexual assault. >> Women can still rape like Hold on. But when we're looking at crime statistics, we're talking about the legal definition of the crime. So there could be like a
05:57:01
Brian Atlasunderstanding of the term rape that is more like a cultural or social understanding of this term where somebody like sexually assaults a person. But if the legal definition precludes women from being convicted of
05:57:13
Brian Atlasthe crime of rape, then yes, the statistics would reflect that yeah, a greater proportion of men are rapists because women cannot meet the definition of rape. >> What? Bro, I Okay,
05:57:25
Brian Atlas>> so if here I'll I'll try to explain it. If the definition, Hold on. If the definition of rape means that there needs to be a penetrative act, you need to penetrate the other person's body.
05:57:37
Brian AtlasFor example, a woman who like forced herself upon a man and she made him penetrate her, that wouldn't be constituted as rape. >> So, are you saying let's say for >> under the the legal definition?
05:57:50
Brian Atlas>> I'm talking about rape overall. We're not like legal definition. >> If the statistics about 99% the it is the statistics the stat the
05:58:00
Brian Atlasstatistics are looking at the legal definition >> and if you've met the criteria for being culpable under criminal law >> yeah they should change that >> the okay
05:58:13
Brian Atlas>> women can be women can be guilty of other forms of sexual assault that people might consider to be rape but in the statistics you're citing to many jurisdictions do not consider women
05:58:25
Brian Atlascapable definitionally of raping a man. I know you disagree with that, but it's it's true by law. >> Yeah, but the statistics are like way too high for that. Are you like what are you
05:58:36
Brian Atlas>> It's 99%. So, are you saying the statistics are wrong because of by >> I'm saying I'm saying feminists like to cherrypick statistics and they're
05:58:45
Brian Atlasmisleading about the definitions as it relates to the crimes committed. >> Okay. What is >> or we just weren't informed cuz I didn't know that. That's good. If it was the case, hold on. If it was the case that
05:58:57
Brian Atlasthere was a certain criminal act and we gave that that criminal sexual assault a specific term, I don't know, we'll call it mukduck or something, but only women could commit mukduck, then yeah, it
05:59:10
Brian Atlaswould make sense for me to be able to say, well, 99% of women or 99% of mukducks are committed by women. Well, if the definition itself only basically
05:59:20
Aradaallows women to commit the crime, then yeah, that would kind of pan out. >> Okay. Can you please justify how um >> to the previous conversation with the bear and the man, can you please justify
05:59:33
Aradahow let's say a group of people would choose um >> the bear over the black man? >> Justify what? >> Justify like how is that not racist? >> Oh, I think it's racist. Yeah,
05:59:45
Brian Atlas>> I think it's racist, but you have a sort of double standard that you're applying here. >> It's not the same thing at all. And you know, it's not, Brian, come on. >> Well, hold on. So, here I'll paint it this way then. So, a lot of women will say they pick the bear. Why do they pick
05:59:58
Brian Atlasthe bear? Well, they had a they had a personal negative experience with a man or multiple men. And then they also hear stories perhaps on the internet or in
06:00:08
Brian Atlasnews reports that men are more likely to commit certain uh assaults or violent acts or whatever it is. And so why couldn't that same justification be used
06:00:20
Brian Atlasas it relates to rape uh as it relates to race? So for example, let's say a white person has been victimized by a black person. Why would it under your law I would still think it's racist?
06:00:32
Brian AtlasBecause you can't paint with a broad. You can't just say like this entire group, I'm going to judge this entire group because I had 1 2 3 4 five bad experiences with members of that entire
06:00:44
Brian Atlasgroup. So what would stop a white person from saying, "Yes, I was victimized once, twice, three times by black person, and I see all these uh people online who
06:00:57
Brian Atlasalso have been victimiz white people who have been victimized by black people." And that is now my justification for my racist beliefs. >> But what percentage of crimes are made by black people that would have them
06:01:09
Brian Atlas>> Well, are you sure you want to go down this road? So, if I could present to you crime statistics that indicate that black people are more likely to be over if black people are more likely to be over represented in certain violent
06:01:20
Brian Atlascrime statistics or for example, the fact that black-on-white crime is orders of magnitude greater than the reverse. So, black people are much more likely to assault, to rob and to murder white people than the reverse.
06:01:32
Brian Atlas>> Okay, but that's not what I was continuing. I'm saying what percentage >> But even saying that, I don't think white people should be racist towards black people. >> Yeah. >> Even if the statistics seem to indicate
06:01:43
Aradathat black people are way more likely to to uh assault or murder white people than the reverse. But like I'm what like 99% uh what's the percentage of crimes
06:01:54
Aradamade by men overall compared to black men in specific that would have the white group react that way towards a black man? You know, I feel like it's justified for me to choose the bear over
06:02:05
Aradathe man because most assault crimes have been made by men. So >> discrimination is still a discrimination. >> It doesn't matter what religion, sex,
06:02:16
Aradawhatever you If it's for my safety, like that's it's not the same. >> It's not about safety at the end of the day. It's about you. >> It quite literally is making judgments based on one or two bad experience. >> I mean, how many like how many what's
06:02:28
Aradathe percentage of murders that are men? >> Do you know why are you asking these questions? >> Cuz I don't know. Exactly. Why are you asking? It's a high percentage. >> It's very high of >> murders in general.
06:02:41
Bailey (Drake)>> Murders. Yeah. >> No, it's actually really low >> like overall murderers. Wait, >> men over women. >> What we need to look up is how many bear how many people have been killed by bear attacks or menateex.
06:02:52
Alex (TTI)>> Here's the thing is that most murders actually happen between married couples. >> I just I'm thinking about it logistically in the sense of like a bear like I don't know. I'd rather take my chances getting shredded up by a bear
06:03:05
Alex (TTI)and like killed and left for dead um than like being assaulted or something like that like sexually. >> And that also like >> and that goes for anyone like in the middle of the woods. Like I'd be freaked out if I was like and someone just
06:03:15
Alex (TTI)>> came and that follows you forever. Like the bear. Yeah. Really all it is for me is just like I would rather I would rather die, you know, right? Like get like shredded up by a bear and like mauled than like left with like more
06:03:26
Aradatrauma or like be like Yeah. >> How are men bigger predators than apex predators? Bears. Like because he has one or two world destroying the world.
06:03:36
Alex (TTI)>> Likelihood of a man assaulting me comparatively to like a bear. >> The likelihood of a hungry bear eating you is really high. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But well that's what I'm saying. >> Wait. If it's a hungry bear and a very sexual man.
06:03:49
SPEAKER_00>> I agree. >> We need to look at that, too. >> George donated $100. things. >> If I were asked about the bear or man scenario, but it was a woman instead of a man, I would choose the woman because
06:04:00
SPEAKER_00I could ditch her in the woods and avoid a false allegation and jail time. >> Get it, Pasty. That's funny. >> That's a good response. You catch instead
06:04:15
Brian Atlas>> or he could do that. Run away like a sassy man. In the example though where a white person picks a bear over a black person, I think many people in society would recognize that as a sign of racism of racism.
06:04:27
Brian AtlasBut it seems like it's somewhat acceptable for women to express this sort of um generalized broad fear, hatred, sexism, bigotry
06:04:38
Brian Atlastowards men because of negative past experiences. We wouldn't I by this logic then it would you would have to accept that it's reasonable for someone to be racist if they themselves had bad
06:04:51
Brian Atlasexperiences like a white person had bad experiences with a black person you would have to justify their racism under your logic.
06:05:04
Brian AtlasSo if we okay if we like for example if a white person has had a bad experience with a black person I would be against them being like them saying oh well I'm just my racism is okay because I had a
06:05:16
Brian Atlasbad experience. If we reject racism based on individual experiences we should also reject sexism based on individual experiences. >> Yeah but I have no individual
06:05:30
Brian Atlasexperiences like that. I'm going based off of statistics. Like I said, 99%. >> But when you do that, you open the door to genuine racists who can cite to crime
06:05:38
Brian Atlasstatistics that indicate that black people are over represented in crime. >> That's see it as equivalent at all. >> I mean, it's literally the same. >> No, it's not.
06:05:51
Arada>> It's absolutely the same. >> No, it's discrimination. Discrimination is discrimination. Look at the definition. It's judging somebody based off of their appearance, sex, race, or religious
06:06:03
Aradaorientation, etc. >> Okay. But me personally, I'm just saying I would choose the bear over the man. >> Your personal opinion is sexist. >> Okay. That's your opinion.
06:06:17
Brian Atlas>> I look the bear thing. I think women just they greatly underestimate the risk profile of an encounter with a random bear and greatly overestimate the risk profile of an encounter with a random
06:06:28
Brian Atlasman. But we're going to move on from that. Uh any disagreements? Let's see. Oh, a woman's past should not matter. So, body count. Uh going around the
06:06:39
Brian Atlastable. Uh you agree with the statement. Kylie disagrees. Queen Disagree or sorry, agrees. You agree with his name? Alex
06:06:50
Brian Atlasagrees. Sorry. Kylie agrees. Queen Dy agrees. A freighta >> fra >> fraud. Fraudulent person agrees. >> Ka Katy >> Katy
06:07:02
Brian Atlas>> Katy agrees. >> All right. Uh so why should a woman's past not matter?
06:07:11
Alex (TTI)>> Uh wait. Yeah. Oh, like body count? Because I mean uh in that context like what I'm thinking of is cuz why would it if you're only with I mean like if you're
06:07:23
Alex (TTI)in a committed relationship with that person moving forward and you guys are exclusive and you've like talked about it and you're not seeing anyone else and you're tested all good then I don't see why it would be an issue. You know if
06:07:35
Alex (TTI)you're not interacting with anybody else. I feel like it's a personal preference genuinely. I think that like >> I I wouldn't say it's wrong to not want to be with someone because they've been with
06:07:48
Alex (TTI)>> Is a guy insecure? >> I don't I personally I don't see why you would have a problem with it if if you are genuinely only being with that person moving forward. You know what I mean? And that's like what you guys agreed on
06:08:01
Brian Atlas>> and you're not >> you're kind of baking in all these scenarios where you're only with this person. So you're baking in loyalty. you're baking in that they're clean. >> I mean, well, yeah. I mean, like, >> who's
06:08:13
Alex (TTI)>> Well, because those I mean, those circumstances matter. I feel like it my body count would matter a lot more if I had like HIV versus like, you know, like not having anything at all. Cuz then that's like, well, there's a reason why. >> Sure.
06:08:26
Kylie (Gap Year)>> A woman's passion not matter. Why is that, uh, Kylie? >> I said no, right? >> Well, you agree. A woman's passion not matter. Why? Why do you agree? Um, I just I don't think it really
06:08:39
Queen Dmatters to me if you're like a nice, respectful person. Like, okay, >> it shouldn't really matter. Queen >> I don't think it matters as long as you like have a talk with whoever you're
06:08:49
Queen Dwith in a committed relationship like >> if you tested. Yeah. It shouldn't matter. >> Okay. So, as long as she's clean, >> she's clean and she's honest about it
06:09:01
Aradaand the partner is like okay with it, it shouldn't matter. Yep. I would say the same thing. Honestly, I don't think her past should matter like that. >> Um, I feel like personality matters
06:09:13
Gatimore. If she's a good person at heart, then I feel like that matters more. >> What about you? >> Oh my god. >> You didn't you didn't circle this one. >> Um, yeah. I don't think a woman's
06:09:24
Gatipassion matter, honestly. I feel like just have a conversation about getting tested and stuff like that and just make sure you're safe. That's it, you know. >> Okay. Uh, so going around the table, uh,
06:09:37
Alex (TTI)passion and matter. Body count doesn't matter. What's your body count? >> Oh, yo, that's crazy. I don't know if I feel comfortable answering that. >> Didn't you say, didn't you say it was two? >> Mm- Why did I say that?
06:09:50
Alex (TTI)>> Did I? >> Definitely not. >> I could have. >> It's not like It's not high. I just don't I don't know. That's not something I really disclose.
06:10:01
Brian Atlas>> Didn't you say it was two? Chad, didn't she say something in essence or along those lines >> today? >> Yeah, I could have sworn she said something about the number.
06:10:14
Brian Atlas>> Definitely not intentional. >> I remember the number two for some reason. Uh, can you give us a range? >> Uh, single digit. >> Did you lose track? >> No, >> you stopped counting.
06:10:25
Alex (TTI)>> No, I had know exactly how many like single digit. But it would be hard to lose track at that point. >> Ballpark it. ball. I mean like when they ballparking it would be like still giving you I don't know >> body count
06:10:38
Kylie (Gap Year)>> I can put it like 70 >> 70 okay body count >> um I don't really feel comfortable with that but single digit as well >> single digit but weren't didn't you have a phase where you like hooking up with a bunch of
06:10:51
Kylie (Gap Year)>> she had a roster >> yeah you had a roster right >> hooking up with the same person >> you said you had a roster like seven dudes >> the same like it was it's not so many people like it's it was just like I But
06:11:02
Brian Atlasthere was the guy in the ice cream parking lot. There was the boyfriend. There was the other boyfriend. There was the guy who became gay. There was >> There was a couple There was a couple
06:11:14
Brian Atlasguys you went over to their house and just [ __ ] right away. >> I know. But that was like over and over again. >> You want No, but there were different guys. >> Yeah, different guys. But like it wasn't >> Did you lose track?
06:11:26
Kylie (Gap Year)>> No, I know it what it is. It's really close to double digits. So Nine. >> I was going to say that. >> All right. Gee. Yeah. Okay. All right. What about you? Body count?
06:11:38
Arada>> Uh, I would say like in the 10 like 13 or so. >> 13 or so. Okay. >> Well, that's actually I don't want to disclose that. Feel like it's really personal. >> It's 30. Okay. Uh,
06:11:52
Bailey (Drake)>> it's what? >> She actually told me it's 30. Um, >> I never said that. He's lying. >> Oh, well, I guess you're going to have to confirm. >> You're lying. >> Okay. What about you? >> Oh gosh. I actually never counted, but I know it's it's double digits at least.
06:12:06
Bailey (Drake)>> It's up there. >> Yeah, I never actually counted. >> Triple digits. >> It maybe it might be, but I never counted. So, I don't know. Personally, that's just what God knows. That's up to Yeah. >> So, do you want to ballpark it? Like, is it 50?
06:12:17
Bailey (Drake)>> And I usually don't say, and I just like, you know what? No, I have no idea. >> 70 range. Do you want to do 50 to 60? I don't know. >> It's It's been a lot. It's been a lot. A lot of energy exchanges, a lot of information exchanges. Yes.
06:12:31
Bailey (Drake)>> A lot of trauma. >> Yeah. A lot of a lot of like promiscuous like most of it happened when I was younger. That's a thing cuz my parents were trying to manifest me to get pregnant so I could get stuck at home. But let's not talk about that. >> Yeah. They wanted me to have a teen pregnancy and they kept trying to
06:12:43
Bailey (Drake)manifest it for me. So, but that's before I broke all my curses. >> But your parents were trying to manifest you getting pregnant. >> Yes. Teen pregnancy. Like say would say it all the time like you're going to get pregnant. You're going to get pregnant at 16. And I wasn't even having sex at
06:12:56
Gatithe time. So it was crazy. She was just like really. Yeah. Anyway, >> uh body count >> mostly up when I was younger. >> I would say around like 40 and just because for me, I didn't know myself
06:13:08
Gatiwhen I was younger and I just would do stuff. So, ladies, know your boundaries. Okay. >> Okay. 40. What about you? >> Uh five men, two women. >> Good times.
06:13:21
Brian Atlas>> Oh, yeah. >> Good times. This is for everybody. >> Multiply it by three and that's the real number. >> For all of you. All of you. Uh, >> multiplication here. >> We all just got roasted. >> Multiplication. >> Hey, you know, I live and I learn.
06:13:33
Brian Atlas>> How about How about this? Has anybody had sex with two people >> in a 24-hour period? Show >> three. >> Three >> in 24 hours. >> I like her honesty. I got to give you props.
06:13:45
Brian Atlas>> Only once, but >> one time three sepome days, but 24 hours. >> Anybody? >> Two guys. 24 hours. >> Me too. Uh, Kylie, >> I'm not going to lie. >> No, Bailey.
06:13:58
Bailey (Drake)>> Yeah, I said, "Yeah, I'm not going to lie." You know how many orgies start in front of me, though, that I didn't join? Let's just go there. But there's a lot of orgies that happen in front of me. >> So proud of you. Um, >> and I never join. I was always like the one that would just sit back. Whether it's like >> in into the mic, don't sit back. >> I was always the one that I think I
06:14:11
Brian Atlaswitnessed like four or five orgies and I've always like sat back. So that was interesting. I was like the only one too or like maybe there's one other person. >> How about anybody been with two guys in a 72-hour period? So 3 days?
06:14:26
Brian AtlasNobody. >> Wait, how many >> in 72 hours? >> Three. Oh, >> three. More than one. Oh, Kylie, raise the high. Be proud.
06:14:36
Brian Atlas>> Be proud with your Tinder. Or wait, no, it wasn't even Tinder. Your Tinder phone. Uh, okay. Body count shouldn't matter. Pass shouldn't matter. Let me ask you guys a
06:14:48
Brian Atlasquestion, though. Would you date a guy who previously had sex with men? And I know some of you are going to say yes because well looking at Kylie here >> yes. Okay. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes.
06:15:01
Brian Atlas>> I think so. Yeah. >> Previously had sex with men. Okay. >> Absolutely not. >> Absolutely not. Wow. You're such a homophobe. What about you? How dare you? A fraud. >> Would you date a guy here? Would you would you date a guy who previously had
06:15:14
Brian Atlassex with men? >> Who? Me? Oh, yeah. >> Yeah, you. Cuz the order I was off. Yes. Absolutely not. >> Absolutely not. >> No. >> Okay, cool. Um,
06:15:27
Brian Atlaswhat if they're Does it change anything if they're bottom? >> No. >> No. >> Like still down? >> No. It almost made it worse in my head. >> Like if they're bottom, does that change
06:15:39
Alex (TTI)anything? Still would [ __ ] a gay guy. >> Well, with me or with the other guy? >> No, not a threesome. >> No. No. I mean like are they a bottom?
06:15:50
Alex (TTI)like when we're together or just like you know were they taking it like then how about this? They're they're your preference in terms of how you like sex. >> Okay. >> But like with men they're bottoms. >> Okay.
06:16:02
Brian Atlas>> Fine with it. Okay. >> Would any of you date a guy who previously had sex with prostitutes?
06:16:13
Alex (TTI)>> No. >> Hold on. Going around the table starting. >> I don't I don't think so. And I think that's only because I don't think I would be with anyone who um paid for
06:16:25
Alex (TTI)sex. I don't know >> what if he was great though, but he just [ __ ] a couple prostitutes back in the day. >> I mean I you know what if that was like really what it was and like you know I don't know like try something once I
06:16:38
Alex (TTI)guess like that's you >> say like 10 times >> 10 times a little crazy >> that how much money you spending then cuz I feel like >> it's not that much money probably. Well, I don't know. >> What? A couple hundred? How? >> Yeah, it's like two 300.
06:16:50
Erica (Oregon)>> Couple hundred bucks probably. >> But like what? Like per night though? Like 10 times? Like you invest in like thousands of dollars into sex? Like that's a little >> It it uh it'd probably be$200 or $3,000 10 different prostitutes.
06:17:03
Chloe (Mercedes)>> Yeah. >> Like that to me just seems financially irresponsible. We're not going to get straight a car payment. >> Yes. Because I know they did. >> You know the deal. >> They did. >> They did. You did.
06:17:14
Chloe (Mercedes)>> They did. You're a you are a prostitute. So you kind of would be fine. >> Not because not because of that. Only because I know I knew they did. They
06:17:27
Kylie (Gap Year)told me >> they did that in the past. So it's the honesty. >> What about you? >> Um I don't think so. But it depends on the circumstances. >> They were just horny and they needed
06:17:39
Kylie (Gap Year)>> Yes, that's fine. >> Well, wait. What would be the other circumstances? Like if if if it was like a hobby like they not a hobby but like if they just kept like yeah a sport they kept doing it. >> What about you?
06:17:54
Gati>> I don't think so. >> Wouldn't do it a fa >> absolutely not. >> Okay Bailey >> I guess. >> Yeah. Next.
06:18:03
GatiUm, no. But I mean, I would date them because their pasts don't matter, but at the same time, I would be more aware and I would feel like that's where communication brings in and you're like the testing and stuff like that. So, as
06:18:17
Aradalong as there's like awareness on both sides, >> definite red flag. I'm going to catch that man in my lingerie and have to dump him.
06:18:26
SPEAKER_00>> Hasty George donated $100. If a woman's past and body count shouldn't matter, then a man's income shouldn't matter. His height or even weight shouldn't
06:18:38
Erica (Oregon)matter, his preference for younger women shouldn't matter. Right? >> I really agree with this one because the things that women want from men, men can't really change, like their height. But the things men want from women,
06:18:50
Bailey (Drake)women can change, like taking care of ourselves, going to the gym, etc. >> Yep. >> Subjective chef. >> They shouldn't because it's in the moment. If you're paying money, if you're paying money in the moment and
06:19:02
Bailey (Drake)providing in the moment, the [ __ ] is in the past. I mean, like, so you had you were a prostitute in the past or you whatever in the past. In the moment, if you guys both stopped and you're just loving each other, that's what it's
06:19:15
Brian Atlasdependent on. >> Yeah, that's life is. You learn as you grow. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, here, I'll >> Chef Dylan, thank you for the big $200 super chat, man. You're [ __ ] legend. Thank you, man. Mhm.
06:19:28
Brian Atlas>> Chair 2 is not from San Jose. That's the wrong accent. CCP agent. >> She's not from there. >> Well, she said she she didn't like she was born in China. She just moved to the
06:19:36
Brian AtlasUS two years ago. >> So, she she lives in San Jose.
06:19:46
Brian AtlasAre you a CCP agent? >> Seems like you're spying on us, girl. >> There's one.
06:19:55
Brian Atlas>> Okay. All right. Uh, let's see here. Chloe, transgender individuals do not have a duty to disclose to romantic partners.
06:20:06
Brian AtlasUh, K Queen D, you also agree with that. Kylie, you agree with that. Why? Why is that? >> If they find out, they find out. If they don't find out, then
06:20:19
Chloe (Mercedes)>> are you trans? >> Too bad. Many times I tell guys I I told guys I am because >> um what the [ __ ] >> Why? Wait. >> No, like like when when too many people
06:20:31
Chloe (Mercedes)try to talk to me and I just don't want to talk to all of them and I use it as a >> an excuse >> as a go away. >> Oh my gosh, >> that's crazy that
06:20:42
Brian Atlassomebody who has an argument on this though. So uh do not have a duty to disclose uh Kylie. Why is that? >> Um I well I think it's a black and white
06:20:53
Kylie (Gap Year)question. Some people prefer not to tell which um I feel like I can't really speak on because I don't know that type of experience. Um especially from someone like me who would who doesn't
06:21:05
Kylie (Gap Year)have a preference for gender, but um for other people they do mind. >> So I feel like that's not really my place to speak on since a black and white question. Just people prefer
06:21:15
Brian Atlasdifferently. But knowing that there are people out there who do care about it, >> shouldn't there be some duty if you're trans to let the other person know ahead of
06:21:26
Kylie (Gap Year)time? >> Well, I don't know if that's like my place to speak cuz I'm not trans, so I don't know. But I've heard arguments on both sides being like I would like to know. Um, I forgot what the reason was
06:21:38
Brian Atlasthat they would like to know, but um, >> so you don't sleep like if you're straight so that you don't sleep with a a man. >> Yeah, I guess. I don't know. I feel like I don't really know how to answer that
06:21:52
Brian Atlasquestion. >> Okay, queen. Why? >> Oh, I think I read the question wrong, so I would like to change my answer. >> Well, the next one. A man dating a transgender woman is straight. You
06:22:03
Brian Atlasagree? You agree? You agree? Uh, you three, why why is it uh straight for a man
06:22:11
Alex (TTI)to date a transgender woman? >> Oh, my bad. Um, cuz they're woman. >> Okay.
06:22:22
Chloe (Mercedes)>> Because they don't know. They thought they are they were dating a girl. >> Well, I in the Hold on. You can know that somebody's trans and some people
06:22:36
Brian Atlas>> they don't. >> Well, okay then. I think that should be a crime to be honest. But >> Okay. Um, Kylie, why why is it straight for a man dating to date a transgender
06:22:49
Kylie (Gap Year)woman? >> I mean, straight relationships between a man and a woman, but I think people have different opinions on that because it's supposed to be they say like, oh, biologically male or biologically female. I just see it as male and female, so it doesn't really matter to
06:23:03
Brian Atlasme. >> Well, you can't change your sex. >> Yeah, that's true. >> Yeah. >> I mean, even granting that somebody can change their gender, you're still a like
06:23:16
Brian AtlasWell, here, why don't I ask this? This will maybe simplify things. What is a woman? >> That's a really broad question. I don't know how >> I don't I think it has a really simple answer, but what is a woman?
06:23:34
Brian AtlasHold on. No, no, no. Wait. >> Someone who identifies as a woman. Like >> a woman is someone who identifies as a woman. There's no descriptor there, though. >> Well, because like what would be like
06:23:46
Brian Atlas>> a cat is something that is a cat. That's not a good definition, is it? >> Well, because like what makes a woman a woman, though? Like cuz >> So, yeah. What is a woman? Yeah, that's
06:23:59
Chloe (Mercedes)what I'm asking. >> You don't know? Okay. What about you? What is a woman? >> Uh, someone who born as a as a woman. >> Oh, okay. Uh, what about you? What is a woman?
06:24:10
Brian Atlas>> Um, same with Chu. >> Someone who was born as a woman. >> Yeah, >> it's same as her. >> Yeah. >> But then,
06:24:19
Brian Atlasso transgender woman was not born as a woman, >> so she's a man. So, are transgender women men?
06:24:33
Brian Atlas>> I don't really know how to answer that or speak on >> Well, you realize like babies aren't coherent enough to understand like gender identity. They can't even speak. So,
06:24:50
Brian Atlasa transgender woman was born male. >> Mhm. Yeah, >> but transgender women are not born women. >> Yeah,
06:25:02
Brian Atlas>> because they're male. >> Yeah, >> but are okay. What I'll come back to that. What
06:25:12
Queen Dis a woman? >> For me, a woman is like who is born with like the biological like um the ovaries and >> Okay. What is a woman? Someone >> born as a female.
06:25:25
Gati>> Okay. Yep. That's biologically a female. >> Yeah. A woman that has [ __ ] and titties, you know. >> Are you counting like plastic surgery and like >> they're transgender women?
06:25:37
Gati>> No, because I think transgender women can change that. That's why they go into >> Right. Can't they? No, they can't. They can't. They can. But I think like with transgender or
06:25:48
Brian Atlas>> so then is a can a trans under your definition of what is a woman? Does a transgender woman fit your definition of what a woman is?
06:25:58
Gati>> Honestly, I don't really know that type of stuff to be honest with you. So, I couldn't even >> I couldn't answer that. >> Adult, human, female.
06:26:09
Brian Atlas>> That's a that's my uh preferred definition. Um, as it relates to this being this like straight thing though, my confusion here is
06:26:19
Brian Atlashold on. My confusion is I mean to Kylie, a man dating a transgender woman is straight. >> I can also change my answer. I I don't really
06:26:30
Brian Atlas>> if you want to, but um >> I don't know. I just respect what I see on the internet. So, >> you shouldn't do that. Um >> but look, can here's a different question. Can a male become a female?
06:26:46
Brian Atlas>> But they can't become like one. >> So, okay. Even >> a male cannot become a female.
06:26:57
Brian AtlasSo we're talking about sex, right? Male and female pertains to sex. Gender, for the sake of the argument, I'll just grant it. Gender is man, woman, gender
06:27:08
Brian Atlasidentity. People can change their gender identity, I suppose. But it doesn't make you, even if you get surgeries,
06:27:18
Brian Atlasdoesn't make you a female. if you were a while you remain a male. So my position on this would be
06:27:29
Brian Atlasa male dating a male that can never be heterosexual. Straight is short form slang for heterosexual.
06:27:40
Brian AtlasSo heterosexual what is this uh pertaining to the opposite sex? opposite sex attraction, other sex attraction. Two males, regardless of their gender
06:27:51
Brian Atlasidentity can ne that can never be heterosexual. It is always it would always be gay. It would always be homosexual.
06:28:02
Brian AtlasI'm not making a criticism of that, >> but it's definitely not straight. >> Does anybody want to
06:28:11
Brian AtlasAm I wrong? I don't know. No, that's >> Am I wrong? Am I wrong? Am I wrong,
06:28:20
Alex (TTI)>> Kylie? Okay, W. Kylie, she I guess she's >> I'm like trying not to throw up right now. >> You're trying not to blow up? >> No, throw up. I'm have my bad. I'm like sick. Oh, >> like not like sick sick. I'm chronically ill. >> Throw up from the conversation. >> Flare up right now. Like don't know
06:28:33
Brian Atlaswhat's going on. >> Okay. Uh Kylie, you also said that wrong to refuse to date a transgender person because they are trans. Why is that?
06:28:43
Brian Atlaswrong. I'm sorry. I You spoke too fast. >> So, the statement is wrong to refuse to date a transgender person because they are trans. >> Did I agree on that? >> Yeah, you agreed. Why is that?
06:28:59
Brian Atlas>> Is it wrong? Like, here, is it wrong for me to not want to date a transgender person? >> No. >> Because they're trans. >> And I agreed with that. >> Yes. Maybe.
06:29:11
Kylie (Gap Year)>> Well, >> is it wrong? Is it bad? Is it >> I don't know. >> Well, I mean, yeah, I think I should change that. But, you know, it doesn't I don't know. I don't really know much about >> Okay.
06:29:24
Brian Atlas>> J. >> All right. Um, we're going to do we got a few more here. Gonna try to wrap get wrapped soon. Uh
06:29:38
Brian Atlaskind of Oh, you know what? We have a few more things here, guys. $100 TTS. Get them in. Get them in if you want. We have
06:29:51
SPEAKER_00>> Thank you, Muddy. >> Muddy Ninja $2,528 donated $100. >> Appreciate it, man. >> If I was taking any of you on a dinner date, I ask you all body count. It is
06:30:02
SPEAKER_00more than five plus. or you all don't want to say. I will walk away from the table, pay my half of the bill, and block any contact. >> I mean, then what's stopping her from lying?
06:30:15
Brian Atlas>> Wow, that's a great foundation for a relationship. >> Yeah, fantastic. >> It's very self- serving to Yeah. Um Okay, Muddy, thank you for the uh TTS. Really appreciate it. Uh
06:30:28
Brian Atlas>> switch. >> No, not yet. I need I'm kind of waiting for the rest of the group to get back until I jump into the other stuff. But let me see if there's anything else in the notes for any of the particular
06:30:38
Brian Atlasguests. Uh we did Chloe. Uh we did Alex Lauren. She's the no-show
06:30:48
Brian AtlasChristian. Christian woman with Bible verses. No calls, no shows. >> Oh, >> imagine that. Yeah. No calls, no shows.
06:30:58
Brian AtlasUh, Liz, I've met one my Wait, Liz? Who's Liz? >> Kayla's? I go by Kayla. Oh, >> why? >> Oh, okay. Uh, you met one of your dates
06:31:09
Brian Atlasexes at work before we went on date. She told me everything. Oh, that whatever. >> Oh, yeah. That was me. >> You wanted to talk about 50/50 relationships. What's that about? >> Uh, I mean, we kind of went into it, didn't we? >> What's that? >> Kind of. We kind of went into it. Do you
06:31:22
Gatilike them? >> No. No. I I >> Are you against 50/50? >> I think it depends. Like I think it's just like if we're like committed then there's like like I said, I'm all about
06:31:35
Gatireciprocation. >> But like at first like I just want to you know see if you can be a man and like >> masculine and just like take me out cuz that's honestly that shows me that you actually do care
06:31:47
Gati>> and I press that button, Brian. Press that button. >> I was just changing the camera. I thought you were going to do a little >> uh you also wanted to talk about having sex on the first date. >> Yeah. Um,
06:32:00
GatiI think I've encountered a lot of men that like immediately go towards that and like I was saying earlier about like I've gotten like asked to hang out from guys and like that's something that
06:32:11
Gatithey've like initiated before and I'm like obviously I'm always like cuz I do just hang I have guy friends you know so that's why I'm like you know I've encountered a lot of guys that like
06:32:24
Gatiimmediately just go into that and I don't think of it like Oh. Um, my first thought is not like dating. That's why I always like have to ask them because sometimes they don't mention that. Like
06:32:34
Gatithat's not the first thing they say. So, um, yeah. But other than that, yeah, like I just don't like that. I don't feel like it just makes me feel like I'm just being used
06:32:51
Gati>> 40 times though. Like all because you said the body counts 40. So, >> no. Yeah. >> Do you feel used like all the times or >> No, because honestly, I've I've grown. I've like I said, I was raised on my
06:33:04
Gatiown. I had to figure out a lot of things on my own and I've made mistakes that I honestly didn't know my boundaries. I didn't know my worth. So, you know what?
06:33:15
Gati[ __ ] happens. But like that's why I grow and you get older. You start to learn things and you start to like really put into your boundaries and stuff like that. So, yeah. I've made my mistakes. You said how to tell someone you've cheated on them.
06:33:30
Gati>> Yes. >> Did you have you cheated on guys? >> I've um done it once, but I think it was like a cheap back. >> It was a cheap back. >> Yeah, it was more of a cheat bag.
06:33:41
Gati>> Also, you said that just how men are more sassier than ever. >> Am I Am I sassy? >> Yes, sassy. The fact that you're talking
06:33:50
Gatiabout um the princess era is definitely sassy. So, yes, you are sassy. >> Sassy man. >> And I love that for you. And someone out there will be willing to give you whatever you wanted, but because I've
06:34:03
Gatidealed with a sassy man before, and it's just like I've dealed multiple sassy men before, and I'm just like, >> I think most of them are like mama's boys. First of all, >> why should men not be sassy? >> I just I think that I think happy I
06:34:15
Gatithink happy men are like so much more open with being that way. >> I don't think women should be sassy either, though. >> Yeah. Like I wouldn't like I obviously have done that where I'm like sassy as [ __ ] but like
06:34:26
Brian Atlas>> but I the reason I say this and look the or the social order I would like to see nobody's sassy. Women are women, men are men. We all have our you know duties,
06:34:36
Brian Atlasresponsibilities, etc. Seems though like women have why do I always forget the word for that? Women have forsaken
06:34:48
Brian Atlasany of their duties or responsibilities or traditional gender roles, but you still want men to be traditional men.
06:34:56
Brian AtlasWomen have at no other point in human history have been more [ __ ] free and independent and modern and all this [ __ ] Never have they been more
06:35:07
Gatipromiscuous. None of this [ __ ] But now you still want men to be adhering to their traditional gender roles. >> That depends because I think there's some women, like you said, there's some men.
06:35:20
Brian Atlas>> Okay. Yes, there's Yeah, there's some women who are traditional and there's some men who are not tradition. Like I'm when I when I'm saying these things, I'm not denying that like it's not a claim
06:35:32
Brian Atlasthat oh, >> there are no women who meet this metric. >> Okay, Felicity, you can get up. I'm speaking in generalities here. >> No. Yeah, I get it.
06:35:42
Brian Atlas>> The general trend I see is not >> The general trend I see is not the woman is a submissive [ __ ] trying to be a trad housewife
06:35:53
Brian Atlasvirgin. The trend I see is closer to she's done [ __ ] 10 guys by the time she's 20. >> Well, then >> that's closer to reality than the other. >> It's always been that way almost.
06:36:05
Bailey (Drake)>> No, it has not always been that way. Well, I feel like social media has done a lot. The oldest job is prostitution. Social media has definitely [ __ ] [ __ ] up a bunch of [ __ ] >> The oldest and first job is prostitution. Actually, it's going to be
06:36:16
Brian Atlas>> No, it's not. It's [ __ ] fisherman, dork, because how did the original guy pay for the [ __ ] [ __ ] He He gave the [ __ ] prostitute a fish. >> You're right. Actually, >> the oldest profession is a fisherman.
06:36:28
Bailey (Drake)>> Yeah, but still, it's the oldest for women is probably prostitution. So, >> that was kind of funny using the word dork there in a fishing in a fishing sentence, >> I guess. Um, >> no. But it's true. Social media has pushed that.
06:36:40
Bailey (Drake)>> Just because the oldest profession, first off, it's not true. The oldest profession is not for women. >> Not even for women. >> Not even for women. >> I mean, that's what that's what it says online. But you're right. It could be wrong. But you don't know. You don't
06:36:53
Brian Atlaseven know cuz you weren't there either. But that's what it says online. >> You're doing like >> But you're also doing the same thing that you said that you're assuming >> you're doing this appeal to like hysterosity. Oh, okay. Well, way back in the day there was prostitutes, so
06:37:05
Brian Atlastherefore prostitution should be okay today because it happened a really long time ago. Cool. There was slavery 300 years ago. Do you think that that we should bring that back, too? >> Um, I don't know. But all I know is a lot of girls that do it do it to survive
06:37:19
Bailey (Drake)and other things like that. So, if you take that into account, you shouldn't be judging them in that so much of a sense. >> Okay. Drug dealers. >> Also, Jesus again, Jesus chose to be with a prostitute and got her out of that.
06:37:30
Bailey (Drake)>> Yeah, that's fake news. No, it's not. It's not fake news. No, it's not. >> No, it's not. It's total [ __ ] >> No, it's not. That's what you want people to think cuz it goes against what you believe, but that's not true. So, you could just think that, but the truth is the truth.
06:37:42
Bailey (Drake)>> Literally fake news. Totally fake news. >> It even says it in the Bible. So, if you're Catholic, then there you go. You don't believe in your own verse. Tell me the verse. >> No, it's in there. I just know, but it's not it. Yeah. >> And actually, all most of the Bible was
06:37:54
Bailey (Drake)changed and they took a lot of books out and they burnt them because they didn't like how feminist they actually it was. So they changed it to be super toxic masculine by burning and taking out a bunch of books. Mary Magdalene had a
06:38:06
Bailey (Drake)child with Jesus and she was a prostitute. And that's the truth. You don't have to believe it, but And then when you find out the truth eventually, then you look like the idiot for making fun of me. So there you go.
06:38:19
Brian AtlasThat was the perfect audio, by the way. I love that. >> Yeah. Wild Thornberries. >> Oh, okay. Uh here, let's get back into the questionnaire since we have Alex back at the >> But Jesus was a real man. And that's why the table he got her out of it so that
06:38:31
Bailey (Drake)she didn't have to suffer because she had a bad childhood. >> Which then it goes against you should never judge someone by their past but who they are in the moment because it's not like you're living in the past. You're living in the moment. >> So >> all right. So Erica, you're in an age
06:38:44
Erica (Oregon)gap relationship 20 years. >> I am. >> You're married. Never been happier or healthier. Are you going to have kids or? >> Yeah, we're working on it. He has a >> vasectomy so no accidents happening over here. >> Gotcha. Mhm. >> Uh, and then you said when you were
06:38:58
Aradafirst casually dating, you tried to friend zone. >> I did. I was such a dumb little cu n t. I'm just an idiot. Yeah, I know. I was just such a jerk. I was going through a lot of drama and I was like, "This guy's
06:39:10
Erica (Oregon)great. I don't want him to be around all this drama and like see all this shitty shit." So, I tried to cut him off and he's like, "Yeah, no. Hit me up when you want to have fun." I'm like, "Oh my god." And the first guy ever to tell me
06:39:22
Erica (Oregon)no, first off. And second off, yeah, within a month I was hitting that guy up because no other guy was telling me no. Every other guy was like, "Yes, absolutely. I'll be there for you." >> So, you tried to friend zone him and he was like, "Respectfully, no."
06:39:34
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Literally just flat out told me no. Hit me up when you want to have fun. And >> Oh, there you go. >> Uh, you said that you think dating as a teen teenager is where you went wrong. You watched your little sister become one of the most well-rounded young
06:39:47
Aradaadults because she isn't boy crazy. >> Absolutely. >> Uh, let's see. >> She's 19. not only graduated high school but two terms of college. Uh she wants to become a uh police officer and
06:39:59
Brian Atlaseventually an FBI investigator. She is the smartest little lady I know. >> You said that you believe strongly in traditional values. >> I do. >> Uh you did your you do your best to fulfill wely role even before marriage.
06:40:11
Brian AtlasYou also write you don't think single women should be giving advice. Agreed. >> Or taking advice from other single women. Why is that >> commiseration? A lot of single women do not want to see you doing better than them.
06:40:23
Brian AtlasOkay. >> Even if they're your friends. >> You also said you think most women need therapy before getting into a serious relationship. >> Absolutely. >> So they can practice accountability and admitting when they are wrong or acting inappropriately.
06:40:36
Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Unless your therapist doesn't want to talk to you anymore because you're too self-aware. You should be going to therapy. >> Okay, cool. Uh going to Queen D your notes. You said you're a huge yapper. I
06:40:48
Brian Atlasdon't know. that hasn't really been established tonight, but uh I'm such a dick. Uh okay. You you've lived a million a million lives and so many batchet stories to tell.
06:41:00
Brian Atlas>> Um yeah, like I've dated some batch crazy men. >> Okay. You uh you said you've been single for six to seven months. >> Um
06:41:11
Queen D>> but in your notes you said you're unsure if you're single. Can you explain that? Well, I was talking to somebody recently, but um I mean, we just ended
06:41:22
Queen Dthings, but it was just talking, so I don't consider it dating really. We were just like talking, getting to know each other, and it wasn't that long. It was
06:41:31
Queen Dlike a week and a half to be honest. Right. But before that, um I was dating somebody
06:41:40
Queen Dum that was really nice in the beginning and he is undocumented and his family basically
06:41:50
Queen Dtried to manipulate me into marrying him for the green card, but then he ended up cheating on me and when I found out um it became a domestic violence thing. Oh my god.
06:42:04
SPEAKER_00>> You beat him up? >> No. >> You laid hands on him. >> No. >> Oh, he Oh, okay. >> Yeah, he didn't. >> Pasty George donated $100.
06:42:14
SPEAKER_00A woman is a biological female with 20 chromosomes, real boo, a womb, and a vague jarger. A trans woman who was born
06:42:23
SPEAKER_00a man but believes he is a she is just plain old mental illness. Stop enabling
06:42:33
Brian AtlasIt's true. It's [ __ ] true. It's true. By the way, the like the surgery down there, the bottom surgery. >> That's not [ __ ]
06:42:46
Chloe (Mercedes)>> Seen one? Just just curious. >> Yeah. >> No, I haven't. >> I saw, >> but I can imagine. >> Pretty [ __ ] real. I as a what? >> As a girl, I cannot even tell. >> But I mean, we're not guys. It's not
06:42:57
Aradalike we know. We're not sticking our in it, you know, like Yeah. Right, guys. You guys have like 4,000 nerve endings. >> Only by looking at it, I cannot tell the difference. >> Yeah. Yeah. I just I don't think that
06:43:07
Aradayou can mimic those 4,000 nerve endings that create that that part of you. >> It is true. That is true. I don't know.
06:43:18
Brian AtlasWe got some science deniers here at the table, it seems like. I don't know. Um. Uh. Okay. We have another chat here from Pasty.
06:43:31
SPEAKER_00>> Awesome. >> Pasty George donated $100. >> Thank you, bro. >> When a woman expects a man to pay for everything on the first date, to entertain her, to be manly for her
06:43:42
SPEAKER_00benefit, it makes him feel used, objectified, and even inhuman. >> Exactly. >> It ain't [ __ ] is all I'm saying. That is a point I try to bring up a lot is
06:43:53
Aradalike just how inhumane men are being treated nowadays with all this common misandry. >> Oh, it's so inhumane. >> It is. It is inhumane. You guys are just being true.
06:44:03
Gati>> I just want to feel like you like me. Like that just gives me like you're just This is Do you hate effort? This is effort. God, >> do you hate men? >> Like as a whole? No. >> No, I don't hate them. >> No.
06:44:16
Brian Atlas>> No. >> By the way, there there's audio only listeners. to just speak it instead of >> no >> gesturing. >> Um, sometimes genuinely. Yeah. >> What if a white person says they
06:44:28
Aradasometimes hate black people? >> It's not the same thing. >> It's the same. It's bigotry. It's bigotry. >> Yeah. >> Okay. How about if a man said he sometimes hates women? >> What's your reasoning? Like, why do you
06:44:41
Aradahate women? Does he need a reason? You don't have a reason. >> I do have a reason. >> Do you? >> Yeah. >> What's your reason? Um, I mean, we could see it. Like, I can't literally go a single day without opening my phone and
06:44:52
Brian Atlasseeing like a woman getting stabbed like 71 times and raped. Like, >> you wait, hold on. You can't go a day. >> I go on TikTok.
06:45:02
Brian Atlas>> You see you see daily male on female stabbings >> every day. >> That's clearly an exaggeration.
06:45:10
Brian Atlas>> Every other day. I do see it's story. Every other day. Okay. Cool. Why would that give you justification to hate like four to five billion people?
06:45:23
Brian Atlas>> That's why I said sometimes. >> Yeah. Why would it sometimes give you justification to hate four to five billion people? >> I don't know. That's just how I feel.
06:45:33
Brian Atlas>> Okay, cool. So then a white person who sees all these videos of black people committing crimes against white people, fine for them to sometimes hate black people? >> No, that's racist. Then your position's
06:45:46
Aradasexist, lady. >> No, it's not. >> It is sexist. Yes, it is. >> You're a hypocrite. >> Agree. >> Bigotry and discrimination can apply to no matter what sex, no matter what gender you are, no matter what religious
06:45:57
Brian Atlasorientation. >> What if I saw I saw a bunch of every single day I saw videos of women acting [ __ ] stupid, doing some stupid [ __ ] commit, you know, whatever it is. Uh
06:46:09
Aradawould that give me justification to sometimes hate women? >> Okay, what case? Like, give me an example. Like what would a woman? No, he said doing stupid things. Like really stupid things. >> Oh, sure. Like this woman in Australia
06:46:22
Brian Atlaslit some guy on fire >> uh pretty recently. It's that's interesting that you laugh. >> No, no, it's not funny. I'm so sorry. >> Yeah. >> Right. Yeah. >> It's just a scenario. >> The true colors are really coming through here, by the way. Like you're kind of a terrible person, but
06:46:34
Arada>> um I I don't think it would be like appropriate for me to laugh if like >> No, it's just a scenario. I've never heard of anyone litting someone lighting someone on fire. literally happened in >> so >> in Australia. Uh I feel like there was
06:46:47
Brian Atlasanother one recently. I'm trying to recall the uh >> recall the details. Um oh man, like I I I saw this uh just the
06:46:57
Brian Atlasother day there was this police body cam video of uh of uh I think a a woman who killed like her two sons. >> That's terrible. Like honestly that
06:47:09
Brian Atlasbreaks my heart. >> Yeah. I'm not Yeah. So, oh man, there's recently there was another good one. [ __ ] I'm trying to remember.
06:47:19
AradaWell, whatever. Okay. All right. Just Just letting you know, you're kind of a little bigoted towards men. >> Just saying like it is sometimes, you know, sometimes they do good things, sometimes they do bad things. And I feel
06:47:33
Brian Atlaslike I hear more. >> Well, then why don't why don't you just say something more like digestible like I hate this particular person who did that. Well, >> like why not just say the person who did the bad thing, I hate them?
06:47:46
Arada>> It's just when you hear it so many times, that's just how you're going to feel. >> The same exact logic can be applied to antilack racists.
06:47:56
Brian AtlasYou realize that, right? >> Yeah. It's a dangerous game you guys are [ __ ] playing because you you open the door logically to allowing
06:48:08
Arada>> uh the exact kind of racism and other sort of discrimination you're against. I'm just saying they can use your same justifications. >> I think the the lack of sympathy towards men, their sacrifices, and their
06:48:22
Aradasuffering is really why there's an inhumity being shown towards men. It's just it's not it's not fair that you guys are having to go through as much as you're having to go through just because women are entitled to live a soft easy life
06:48:40
Bailey (Drake)>> based in red pill. Oh my god, man. This is [ __ ] >> It's just sad what you guys have to go through >> and us everybody. But you guys also are trying to say it's worse for men, but that's the same thing as doing what she's doing, but you don't see it yet. That's the same thing. I just I don't
06:48:53
Aradareally opposite >> I'm not really listening to the false victimhood. >> I'm sorry. >> And that's what I feel with you guys. So I feel the same both. I feel the same like >> I'm sorry. You're literally living in your own little imaginary world. So I don't know how we can even have begin to
06:49:06
Aradahave the same perception >> more. Yeah. Cuz it's more in reality. >> Like I genuinely do try not to hate men. Like I I don't like hating people, you know, but it's just like I said, it is really hard to. That's why I said
06:49:17
Brian Atlassometimes I try to keep myself out of that mindset. But every once in a while, like it's just like you can't stop that feeling like where it's just >> so if I take it away off of race and I
06:49:28
Brian Atlasjust do a reversal and say if men frequently have bad experiences with women or they see things you're this isn't a different thing. You're not
06:49:39
Brian Atlasyou can't say, "Oh, well, it's race is different." Still, it's about sex. To be clear, you're fine with men saying the same having the same framing towards women. Then
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Arada>> it's just when I'm seeing it, it's just I'm looking at like statistics of like assault rates, I mean like assault crimes and all of that. when they're
06:50:02
Aradadoing it, it's like, "Oh, she cheated on me." Which is obviously like I don't support, you know, oh, she cheated on me or, "Oh, she's manipulative," or something, and that's why I hate women.
06:50:12
AradaThey're all evil, this, that. But when I'm saying, "Oh, sometimes I hate men." That's what I'm thinking. I'm not thinking, oh, I hate men because, oh, you know, maybe they're manipulative or this and that. It's I'm looking at
06:50:26
Aradastatistics and that's that's what makes me feel that way. I understand it's wrong sometimes to think like that and I tried to keep myself out of that mindset and um that's why I said sometimes you know just clarifying
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Brian Atlas>> see this is a common and common like feminist tactic where you want to so here's what you do here's what you just did
06:50:48
Brian Atlasyou're going to exaggerate the ways in which women are victimized or grieved upon on and you're going to diminish the ways in
06:51:00
Brian Atlaswhich men are victimized or agrieved upon. So like the two examples you gave were like
06:51:10
Brian Atlasto the benefit of your position. You were not charitable at all to the deg.
06:51:22
Brian AtlasOh, she was kind of annoying. That's the You're basically saying that's the worst experience men can have with women and then you're saying >> I mean I'm just >> compare that to rape. It's like so disingenuous. Like at least be
06:51:34
Brian Atlasintellectually honest where you're doing a fair accounting of here's all the here's the ways in which men can be treated poorly by women and give that like >> I gave a big reason. I gave a big example of cheating. Yeah, that's a huge reason. >> Yeah, cheating is not as bad as being
06:51:49
Aradaraped. >> I know. I'm saying, okay, that's a huge problem, too. But I'm seeing as well, that's only >> You did a comparison of women. All men have to deal with is cheating. Women
06:52:01
Brian Atlashave to deal with getting raped. Do you see that's so bad faith and just not like portraying an accurate representation? Like for example, that'd be like me saying men deal with false
06:52:12
Brian Atlasaccusations by women. And uh sometimes the guy on a date he uh wants to split the bill. You would be like, "Well, hold on, Brian. That's [ __ ] bullshit." Like women have like xyz greater
06:52:24
Aradaproblem. You wouldn't accept that if I did that and I wouldn't do that. >> Yeah. But I also did just admit that the way I felt, which was sometimes was wrong. I'm not saying that this is justified at all. >> Okay, we're going to move it on just for
06:52:38
Brian Atlasthe sake of time. Okay. >> While we're going around the table, I >> Oh my gosh, I know. I forgot after like a minute. What is it? >> Oh, I don't remember. I forgot after the first minute. >> Hate men. >> Oh, do you hate men? >> Oh, hell no. >> Do you hate men?
06:52:50
Brian Atlas>> No. >> Okay. All right. Uh, we have messages here from Do we? Okay. We're going to blast through these last few things here. We have uh Pasty
06:53:03
SPEAKER_00George. [Music] >> Pasty George donated $100. Just about every week. There is a news report about female teachers sleeping
06:53:14
SPEAKER_00with their underage male students or a woman failing paternity testing, etc., etc. >> Yeah, ladies, you should do a social experiment this next week or so. Ask all
06:53:25
Aradayour guy friends how many of them lost their virginity to an older woman, and your mind will be freaking blown. >> Like these poor, poor boys. And they don't even know what's wrong. >> I know.
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Brian Atlas>> George donated $100. >> I love you, Pasty. You're so funny. >> Thank you, Pasty. Appreciate it. Uh, okay. We're going to finish up the notes here. Only have a few more on this. We
06:53:48
Brian Atlashave Queen D. You said you think modern dating is harder nowadays because nobody really meets people authentically anymore, and
06:53:59
Brian Atlasit's just more like a cycle of having to ask them what they like to do when going on dates. It's impossible to find someone real and genuine because of what they put online. It could be so
06:54:10
Queen Ddifferent on the date. >> I think online dating in general is just bad. It's bad. >> It's harder to find someone
06:54:20
Queen Dauthentically like in person where >> like when I do uh find someone like say a mutual friend or something like that,
06:54:30
Queen Dit's a lot easier to connect with them. Whereas like when I do find like a date online, they could >> be like so awesome. And I'm not saying like I'm the best either, but I'm saying
06:54:42
Aradalike they could be so awesome online and in person it's just like not I just I don't think any guys are using online dating sites for anything but hookups. Like I just think that's the way that it is. I don't
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Arada>> I've came across some guys who are like, "Yeah, I'm looking for something authentic." Or like I'm sure they'll say anything they got to. I'm 100% sure they'll say anything they have to. >> It's hard. Definitely. >> Well, yeah. Some people they'll just lie