She Dated DRAKE?! Gold Digger?! $5,000,000/Year To Date Her?! Prison Dating?! | Dating Talk #259

Date: 2025-09-08

Duration: 8h 18m

Guests

Brian Atlas

CChloe (Mercedes)>

KKylie (Gap Year)>

BBailey (Drake)>

EErica (Oregon)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_03Erica (Oregon)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Alex (TTI)(guest)

SPEAKER_05Arada(guest)

SPEAKER_06Kylie (Gap Year)(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Chloe (Mercedes)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Gati(guest)

SPEAKER_12Bailey (Drake)(guest)

SPEAKER_14Queen D(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduced. Bailey claims Drake twin flame.

Key MomentBailey: identified Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt reincarnations who wanted to date her

Key MomentChloe: ~70-100 sugar daddies, $300K total. 75yo sponsor paid $80-85K.

QuoteBrian calls Chloe 'basically a prostitute'

ControversyArada demands $5M/yr minimum and 6'2" minimum height

Key MomentWrestling match challenge: Arada vs producer Nick after she claims women as strong as men

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Including Bailey who claims Drake is her twin flame and identifies reincarnated presidents.

Sugar Dating Deep Dive

Chloe's 70-100 arrangements, $300K total, 75yo sponsor.

Self-Ratings and AI Photos

Ratings, aging photos, gender swap.

Income/Height Requirements

Arada wants $5M/yr and 6'2". Bailey wants $1M.

Bear vs Man

Most choose bear. Brian draws racism parallel.

Body Count Round

Chloe 50+. Gati ~40. Arada 13. Erica 7.

Transcript

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Brian Atlas>> Could be. Um, so you tell your mom, "I have had sex with approximately 50 men for money,

Chloe (Mercedes)and she's okay with it." >> She's She's definitely not okay with it, but she is very understanding. Like, she understands. Oh man, I thought Chinese I thought Asian parents,

Chloe (Mercedes)>> you know, >> that's why I left. That's why I didn't stay. >> She would have gave you the belt. >> Both of them. Yes. My whole family, the whole culture like even wearing um

Chloe (Mercedes)lipstick will be looking at a [ __ ] in China still. uh based um so >> like without doing anything just wearing lipsticks people will see you that's a

Brian Atlas[ __ ] she's trying to [ __ ] herself >> w China China w China >> still >> um >> you very very conservative >> uh show of hands who here's wearing lipstick or sorry uh wait that's what it's called lipstick

Kylie (Gap Year)>> yeah lipstick >> show of hands raise your hand lipstick >> it's gone it's gone that's gone >> show of lipstick are you wearing lipstick right now >> gone It's gone. >> It's gone. Sorry. >> What do you mean it's gone? >> I mean, I have lip gloss, but I don't know if that's >> lipstick. Not the same.

Brian Atlas>> Lipstick. >> Yeah. I don't I don't wear makeup. >> You know what? Honestly, chat, sometimes do we just

Brian AtlasWait, never mind. No, I'm not. Never mind. Don't say it. Say it. Say it. It's good. It's good. Uh I don't know. How do we

Chloe (Mercedes)So do you do you want like a husband and kids or >> maybe at the time I won't know but yeah when I meet the guy when I get into the situation I won't know.

Brian Atlas>> Do you think it's going to be like are you going to tell him that like hey by the way I used to be a prostitute? >> They just knew. >> Huh? >> They already knew from the show we're doing live right? Well, yeah, but I mean you could

Brian Atlasit's plausible you you will meet many men who never see the show. >> But like are you going to tell a guy who you see a long-term future with? I should let you know. By the way, I've

Chloe (Mercedes)[ __ ] like 50 dudes for money. >> Well, I do have some real experience is I know guys they don't they don't want to know if they don't ask. I I don't want to compel them. I don't want to

Chloe (Mercedes)make them to know. If they don't want to know, okay, we will leave it. We'll have peace. They don't want to know. >> Ignorance is not bliss. >> Mhm.

Chloe (Mercedes)>> I I would want to know, >> so I could not date you. >> Yeah, that's you. But some guy, they knew I may have a past, but they don't want to know the detail.

Brian Atlas>> They lack standards. Any guy who'd be okay. Look, I guess some guys are going to are forgiving or whatever.

Brian Atlas97% of men are not going to be okay knowing knowing that their girlfriend, future

Chloe (Mercedes)wife, future mother, their children was or is a prostitute. >> A good thing is I don't need to marry

Chloe (Mercedes)that many guy. I only need one. >> And my dating pool is already very very very small. >> How so? They have to be like stupidly wealthy.

Brian Atlas>> What? What is stupidly? Oh, wait. We'll get to that. >> Like filthy rich. >> How >> filthy rich? >> How much? >> What does that mean?

Chloe (Mercedes)>> Like multi-millionaires maybe. >> How much does he make per year? >> Does he like my future husband? >> Yeah. >> Standard. >> Yeah. >> It varies because I'm not a citizen yet. So, you know, different situations,

Brian Atlasdifferent >> Oh, so you're going to try to marry a guy regardless of his wealth so you can get citizenship. >> I don't know. I'm not trying. I'm I'm not looking. >> Yeah, I'm chilling.

Brian Atlas>> I'm at a loss for words. All right. Um, we'll get to the the money stuff in a little bit here. Uh, going back to the rating thing though. Look, I'll just say

Brian Atlasthis. We have 10 88 88 86 10 106. Here's my question. Oh, that I didn't rate myself. I give myself a five. Um,

Brian Atlaswhy can't average women, averagel looking women just say they're average?

Brian Atlas>> Pride. Pride. >> We don't believe it. 10 8 86 10 106

Alex (TTI)>> We don't believe it. We don't personally believe it. >> Beauty is beauty is subjective. >> But like legitimately heart soul >> like >> it really is. >> I have We have a test here. Nick, can you go to the Discord?

Brian Atlas>> Yep. >> Wait, was there something we were supposed Oh, we did that already. So go to Discord. Go to looks. Go the looks. >> Uh we're gonna we're not going to do the Aboriginal girl, but we're going to do

Brian Atlasthe second to last and the most recent one. Okay. >> So, there's one with Sydney Sweeney. >> Yeah. Full screen that window tab.

Brian AtlasJust met Sydney Sweeney and got to show her what a real woman looks like. Uh which one is more physically attractive

Alex (TTI)>> to us? Sweenie. >> This still subjective though. >> Yeah. >> Like just because my type happens to be Sydney Sweeney doesn't mean someone else's type isn't the woman on the right.

Brian Atlas>> Right. I would I I I suppose I could agree with you that like there could be a guy who picks the woman on the right. >> I mean genuinely like I I I know men that 100% would like >> would pick. >> Yeah. Just because I mean like white

Brian Atlaswomen aren't their type. Like I don't know like >> Well, hold on. I think type is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. >> Like what do you mean though?

Brian Atlas>> Like I'm saying for example, a guy's type could be a Latina woman. >> Uhhuh. >> But if he had a pick between like a stunner white woman and a morbidly obese

Alex (TTI)Latina woman, >> he's probably going to like relinquish his type a little bit and get with a white woman. It depends on what preferences outweigh what like is your preference for someone

Alex (TTI)weighing less outweigh your preference for the person being Latina? Because if that's the case, then yeah, you'd probably pick the other person >> if they're morbidly obese. I think so. >> Some people some people are like

Aradasomething that you can argue cuz people are hella into fetish. Yeah, >> we're getting into fetish territory. >> Yeah. But >> um >> most welladjusted

Alex (TTI)>> most welladjusted people are not in >> for example I would prefer a man with like no meat on his bones like >> skinny like not but a lot of women would

Alex (TTI)prefer like a man like like muscular like he goes to the gym he works out. Me personally I genuinely find muscles like like especially when someone gets to the point where they're like working out they're jacked. I think that it's really unattractive.

Brian Atlas>> Well I I I actually don't have any disputes there. I think a lot of women when the men get too muscular where they're like roided up insane. >> See, that's not even what I'm talking about.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. So, you're saying like even athletic muscular developments where they're not on steroids but they're like athletic build that is still >> Yeah. Like if they're like too like ri and I don't Yeah. I don't even mean

Alex (TTI)steroids. I mean like you hit the gym consistently for a year and like by the end of that year like you're bulking like Yeah. No. I'm like Yeah. Really? Like I would prefer a paper thin man which like a lot of people wouldn't but that's fine type of thing.

Brian Atlas>> Some women some men like thin women some men like thick women whatever it is. >> Rich guy likes women. >> I agree with you that beauty is not strictly it it beauty is not objective

Brian Atlasin the same sense that like physics or math is objective. >> Yeah. >> Beauty is subjective but not totally.

Brian AtlasBeauty has objective components to it. Well, cuz it's like >> pull pull the photo back up. We got to go around the table,

Alex (TTI)>> right? I mean, it's a matter of >> which woman is more beautiful or attractive. >> Me. I mean, like conventionally. >> Left or right? Which one? >> Left. >> What about What do you think going

Aradaaround the table? >> Sweeny. >> Okay. >> Uh, Sweenie. >> Sweenie. I would choose Sweeney, but someone would choose someone on the right. >> But okay, most people would pick Sweeney. >> Can you say

Arada>> in America? Maybe. I don't think exceptions make the rule. >> Every country, but Okay. >> Yeah. >> Sweenie. >> Same. Sweenie. Sweenie. >> All right. Next one. Nick, pull it back up.

Brian Atlas>> Pull the >> Discord back up. Right. Which one you want? >> Just the bottom one. We have another one. Here's a little test. I think even better.

Brian AtlasYeah.

Brian Atlas>> Is beauty strictly subjective? >> Like, >> yeah, >> strictly subjective. >> Like, what do you mean? >> There's no object objective components

Brian Atlasof it. I mean, I also think that that varies depending on like what point in time it is, >> what point in no time at no time in human history has the woman on the left

Alex (TTI)would be deemed more attractive, >> broadly speaking, than the woman on the right. >> I mean, I'm care what your culture is. >> No, I'm I'm 100% can guarantee that at some point in time. I mean, >> at what point in time?

Alex (TTI)>> Like I mean, even now, look at her lips. Her lips are bigger, right? Like she has bigger lips. Like I mean pull pull her back up, right? She has bigger lips which is like generally more attractive like currently right now. And no, I mean bottom lip maybe I

Alex (TTI)>> like I'm not even arguing to like play devil's advocate. It's just like for me personally I think that >> like I don't know >> my view >> European look is >> beauty is not just in the eye of the

Brian Atlasbeholder. It's at least partially grounded in objective measurable traits. So there's like universal aesthetics

Brian Atlaslike why is it the case that for example in cultures who have historically who have never met or anything like that

Brian Atlaslike you look at a like flowers for example universally deemed as something that's beautiful or a sunset why is that universally

Brian Atlas>> deemed as like something that is aesthetically pleasing or beautiful >> because it's arguable beautiful, right? >> But but why is there consensus such consensus on the beauty of a flower or a

Alex (TTI)sunset? >> Cuz it's a collective opinion and there's multiple people, right? Maybe. Well, is it also not consistent? >> Like that's my thing is like when you're talking about flowers, we're talking about like >> we're talking about beauty.

Alex (TTI)>> I mean, if I give you a bouquet of roses, all the roses are pretty much going to look uniform. But if I stand you in front of like 10 different women, every woman's going to look I mean like even like 10 different European white women from the exact same town and the exact same family, they're all still

Brian Atlasgoing to look different. And there's one that you may find more or less attractive whereas someone else might find >> But I think for example, something that you could do, and this could apply to both men and women. If you had a 100,000

Brian Atlaswomen, maybe we reduce the number, say a thousand women rank ordering a thousand men, most attractive, least attractive. Yeah, this guy for this girl might be

Brian Atlasabove here. He might be down here, but this girl really likes him. But if you have that sort of amount of people making an assessment, you're going to eventually

Brian Atlassee that there are patterns and like this guy, this guy in particular, he overwhelmingly gets ranked really high or this woman overwhelmingly gets ranked

Brian Atlasreally high. So when it the reason I bring up like sunsets and flowers as it relates to this consensus on beauty is that I believe there's an innate human

Brian Atlasresponse to visual harmony. >> Mhm. So things like symmetry, balance, >> well yeah, >> contrast,

Brian Atlasuh these are kind of I don't know certain traits like the the health indicators proportionality. They're consistently preferred

Brian Atlas>> across different cultures and populations. So, and there's tendencies that make beauty

Brian Atlaspartly predictable and measurable. So, I don't know.

Brian Atlas>> Average person, not everybody. >> I agree. >> If I showed So, today though, I don't give a [ __ ] about the past. Yeah. >> Pull it back up one more time, Nick. the the same one.

Brian AtlasI would be willing to wager quite a bit that I could show this photo and I think I think it'd be more, but I'll just say 99% of men would pick the woman

Brian Atlason the right. >> What would women pick, >> do you think? >> What do you mean? >> Like if you >> like if I showed two different guys. >> No, >> like if I showed Brad Pitt versus Jonah Hill. can't. No, I'm thinking more like

Brian Atlasif you showed that to like men versus like women and like objectively what the >> Well, I think women women prefer comforting lies over uncomfortable truths.

Alex (TTI)>> So, yeah, there's probably a higher proportion of women who would lie. Mhm. >> But deep down >> would lie or would believe that cuz like legitimately like when when you

Alex (TTI)>> out of the two of them who I genuinely believe is more beautiful, I would say it's the woman on the left. And my reasoning for that is because I just don't think that like the euroentric

Alex (TTI)like that just like whitewashed look is like super super insanely attractive because everybody looks like that. Everybody looks like that. Like that's genuinely how I feel. So, so, okay, just repeat it.

Brian Atlas>> Not that I look any >> The woman, the woman on the left >> to you, >> Yes. >> is more beautiful. >> Yes. >> You're either blind or trolling or lying. >> Can I ask a question? One sec. One sec.

Brian Atlas>> Um I If we hooked you up to a lie detector test, there's no way you're passing that [ __ ] >> I mean, to each their own, you know.

Brian Atlas>> Question for you. If let's say you ran a modeling company. >> Mhm. >> And you know that typically when it comes to modeling uh you you have a product maybe not a modeling company you

Brian Atlashave a product and you need to hire a model and your entire business your life savings >> hinges on the success of this campaign. >> I'm going to pick someone who looks

Brian Atlasunique. I'm not going to pick >> so you lose your life. You will be homeless and destitute. You're telling me everything on the line, everything on

Alex (TTI)the line for your business, you're picking the woman on the left they believe in. Yo, yeah, because I feel like women like seeing people that don't look like every everyone else they like like see when they walk out on the

Alex (TTI)street. >> Cuz I'm Why can't women be honest? >> Well, that is honesty. >> Why are we so worried about protecting each other's feelings that we're we're lying? >> Me when I'm not lying. I mean, so for

Alex (TTI)me, for example, right, my nose has is a big bump in the middle of it. And like that's been something that I struggled with since I was like little cuz I got bullied a lot for like having

Alex (TTI)a different nose. And for me, now that I'm older, I genuinely feel like bigger noses, different unique noses are more attractive than what everyone's like getting nose jobs look like now, like

Alex (TTI)the button like up noses, which I'm not saying that is unattractive at all. Don't get it twisted. It's more so that I like seeing people who don't look like everybody else. And I think a lot of people are getting surgery and like

Brian Atlaschanging themselves to look like what everybody else is. >> You realize first off this idea of uniqueness. You realize that white people are a global minority. So this idea that oh the euroentric blah blah blah. You realize that white people are

Brian Atlasa minority. >> But that's like literally what is like being popularized right now. >> Well, I'll tell you this much. There's more women or sorry there's more people who are closer to the skin tone on the left than on the right. So your

Alex (TTI)eurosentric [ __ ] is nonsense. >> I mean just because the population of the world is more so than that doesn't mean that there's not a like societal standard for women >> cuz I mean like people who are of

Brian Atlasdifferent ethnicities are still getting nose jobs to have like euroentric white noses. >> Yeah. So, clearly it's a >> I'm curious how you would answer if I showed you like a really really attractive black woman

Alex (TTI)>> and then like a really ugly white woman who you would pick. >> I mean, again, it's subjective cuz I don't think either person in the photo you showed me is ugly. Like, I just don't.

Alex (TTI)>> So, what is Tell me an ugly woman. >> Like, do you acknowledge that there are ugly women? >> I mean, I like in my opinion, yes. >> So, who's an ugly woman? Off the top of my head, dude, I really couldn't tell you.

Alex (TTI)>> You can't >> cuz I don't spend I try not to spend my time focusing on what's like ugly and unattractive about people. >> So, you're just nonjudgmental. That's just it. You're just not judging people, which I understand because

Alex (TTI)>> Well, she clearly she can't Here's the other thing is it's not that I'm non-judgmental cuz I definitely like am. I'll be honest about that. Like I am judgmental. >> Yeah, she won't date a guy. She needs to date like a wafy skinny dude >> if he's not flying away like a Frisbee. Like I can't do it.

Alex (TTI)>> Right. So you're able to make So you're like, okay, you're able to >> But there it is. But that's my point is that everyone has different like levels of judgment on like what they do and don't judge cuz some people are like super weird and wound up about certain things that other people just aren't and

Alex (TTI)like vice versa. Like that is something that like someone like might be willing to die on that hill. I'm just not. It's like >> um did you did you want to continue? I know you had something. >> Well, yeah, cuz I feel like um in general cuz I've gotten bullied when I

Gatiwas younger, too. So I've kind of learned like to not judge women in overall. But I understand like the point of view of like the guys and like but I feel like whoever you like like your type is just who you like. Like you

Gatican't stop >> from like liking that certain type of guy if they look a certain way. >> Um >> but yeah. So

SPEAKER_00>> I got a question for Brian though. >> I'll I'll get to it in just donated $200. >> Yo, thank you. woman needs more money than her boyfriend. Why does she need him at this point? She is basically a

SPEAKER_00man and can handle everything herself. She doesn't need a man and just her finger or a unicorn. >> Agreed. Pasty George,

Brian Atlas>> there's this viral video I saw, Pasty, of the this couple, young couple, I don't know, they're probably 19, 20, being interviewed on a pier somewhere. I saw it on Tik Tok and the interviewer

Brian Atlaswas asking, "Oh, who pays for dates? Who does, you know, whatever." And the guy was like, "Yeah, I pay for all the dates." And he was like working a $20 an hour job or something. And he had like $500 in his savings account. Then he

Brian Atlasasked the woman how much he has in savings and the woman has $70,000 in savings. It's like >> [ __ ] pay up. I don't know. >> I know. I have a feeling she's not going to give any of that to her relationship

SPEAKER_00or that man. Pasty George donated 200. >> Some men in the world love overweight or obese women, but not the majority. Just

SPEAKER_00the thought of doing it with a 400B whale of a woman makes me sick. I think most of the chat would agree with me. >> So then don't have sex with a 400 lb woman. Like I don't know what to tell

SPEAKER_00you. >> But yeah, that's like that is a fetish. So, >> I think it does kind of also boil down to like hygiene and stuff like it gets gross. >> George donated $200.

SPEAKER_00>> In the picture, the woman on the left is ugly as [ __ ] I would never be able to get hard for her, let alone kiss her, even if my life depended on it. >> I would rather kick the bucket. L MFAO.

Brian Atlas>> I don't know if I'd go that far. I'll take one for the team. >> That was a little >> I'm gonna survive. >> I'm not I'm not gonna end my life over it. >> Oh man. I'm going to have I'm going to

Brian Atlasneed therapy though. >> Multiple years, CPTTSD or whatever. 1285 is better looking than a 300B 7.

Brian Atlas>> Well, then are they a seven to you? If >> Charles Sterling, thank you. Thank you, Charles. And then Grantler, thank you. It looks like you bought a hoodie. Shop.Whatever.com. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. You had a question. Go ahead. >> Yeah. If the girl on the left would ball

Chloe (Mercedes)for you, but the girl on the right wouldn't ball for you, but you like her better, which one will go will you go to? The question is, >> oh my god, >> sorry. >> Clean that up, please. >> Felicity. >> Will you hold up to your standard or

Brian Atlaswill you >> We're not here. >> The looks. >> There's there's a paper towel right back here. Um, sorry, I'm distracted here. um the the woman on the right. If I had to choose

Chloe (Mercedes)the woman on the right, >> then your standard doesn't really matter then like ball for you when you got home because >> what >> as long as she's attractive, as long as she's still looking, she doesn't need to b.

Brian Atlas>> People make all sorts of compromises when it comes to like nobody's perfect. You're not going to get every single thing that you want in a relationship. You know what's really rude? The woman who spilled it ain't cleaning it up. But anyways, um,

Brian Atlas>> sorry. >> We got a girl who didn't not even involved in the accident. Clean that [ __ ] up. >> Um,

Chloe (Mercedes)>> so sorry. What's your question? >> Like your standard doesn't matter because you will go to the attractive women anyway. If you got to pick, if she will also pick you. >> But I'm not going to throw away all of

Brian Atlasmy expectations. Like, yeah, that woman on the right is really beautiful and good-looking, but if she's like abusive or like terrible person, >> not abusive, just wouldn't bow.

Chloe (Mercedes)>> Just wouldn't bow. Yeah, that's fine. >> Then your number one rule of dating to bow to you doesn't matter then because you can give it up. >> No, here I'll I'll explain it like this. You gave me an option to pick between

Brian Atlastwo women. >> Would I suppose would I be dissatisfied with the fact that she's not willing to meet certain standards that I have? Sure, but when the choice is between two women >> and obviously when we're looking at who we're going to date, we're looking at

Brian Atlasthe totality of everything. >> So, you know, one person might not measure up in like X way, but they measure up to the degree to which you're willing to date them. >> So, she won't bow. Okay, whatever.

Brian Atlas>> The looks matter more. >> So, guys, in general, more Yes. If a woman is that that woman is like a a I'm not trying to be mean. She's like a one. The woman on the

Brian Atlasright's like at least a solid nine. >> The looks matter and looks matter the most. >> Yeah. Look. Well, no. >> Other standard, whatever. >> Well, I'll tell you this. Like, okay. >> I If a if a woman, even if she's

Brian Atlasinsanely beautiful, like we were talking about this, if she was a murderer, for example, or she just was like a terrible person, [ __ ] bad attitude, treated me poorly. I don't care how beautiful she is. Some guys will put up with that

Brian Atlas[ __ ] especially for beauty because beauty, look, is currency. For me though, I do have certain expectations of what I uh want in a woman. And I don't care how [ __ ] pretty you are.

Brian AtlasDon't care if you're not acting in a certain appropriate way. Don't care. I ain't going to put up with that [ __ ] But a lot of men will simp for a beautiful woman. Not me, though.

Chloe (Mercedes)>> But being beauty, being pretty is not necessary to be um a murderer or something. There's so many pretty women who's not violent. >> Yeah. But there's a lot of beautiful women who are terrible people. >> Mhm.

Brian Atlas>> And there's good-looking men who are terrible people. >> Maybe. >> Yeah. >> But in this case, when you're giving me the the two choices are a beautiful woman, but she won't bow. >> Yeah.

Chloe (Mercedes)>> And the woman on the left who's not beautiful who will bow. >> We just found out beauty outweighs standard. Whatever dating.

Chloe (Mercedes)>> Not always. looks like. So like beauty is more important than B to you.

Chloe (Mercedes)>> The logic is a bit incoherent. Um >> that's how you put the way of prostitutes. You say uh those girls they only value money but not no it's not

Chloe (Mercedes)only money. Those guy whoever willing to pro provide for her not only have money they also polite and they have they are very well educated. they can contribute

Brian Atlasa lot more that money. >> Well, again, the hypothetical you posed to me had two options, >> right? >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> So, I'm not willing to sacrifice like eight or nine points in attractiveness for the bow. >> Mhm. >> Not willing to do it. But I might

Brian Atlassacrifice like one point like, okay, I can deal a modern uh how about this? she's a six, but she's completely

Brian Atlassubmissive, feminine, meets my standards, etc. Or a seven who's a feminist boss babe, blah blah blah, who wants 50/50, claims she wants 50/50

Chloe (Mercedes)partnership, probably would lean towards the six over the seven. >> But also like what she said, the seven based on your standards or based on the majority standards because maybe people have different perspectives,

Arada>> right? It would be my standard. You're asking me who I would date. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> I think in general men are going to avoid the headache. >> It sounds like you would compromise

Chloe (Mercedes)something over the standards. And if you got a um like luxury to pick if you got that many girls are available for you. >> Uh well, yeah. I think we all do compromises in this case.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> So in this case, if a woman was so phenomenal >> Mhm. that. But her one thing, ah, Brian, you know, the bow is kind of weird. Whatever. I'm not going to do it. But she's phenomenal or whatever. I'm like,

Chloe (Mercedes)okay, >> people are way more complicated. It's not only one standards also for I say for any girls. How can you just separate prostitutes and all the other girls who

SPEAKER_00doesn't do sex for money? They all got standards and it's all wrapped up very complicated. >> So, I think that

SPEAKER_00>> one sec. One sec. Hasty George donated help Felicity clean up chair 2's mess. >> Chair 2 failed big time. Chair is base.

Chloe (Mercedes)>> Although the napkins are right by her and you did tell Felicity to do it, but I don't know why you guys see it's always stupid [ __ ] they say in the chat. Most of the time it's always stupid [ __ ] >> As long as he's not my sponsor, doesn't matter. But if he's my sponsor, I'm

Chloe (Mercedes)going to apologize. I'm going to do all the things to try to smooth him out. It depends. I'm very resolve orientated. >> I think you should just try to be a better guest and clean up your own mess. >> Yeah. Girl, thank you guys. Thank you, girls. >> But wait, what was your thing? You had

Aradasomething else you wanted to say. >> Oh, yeah. So, I think that men will settle for a girl who has nine out of the 10 qualities that they want, but a girl will make the mistake and leave the guy with the nine out of the 10 qualities for the guy that has the one quality they're missing. >> It's true.

Bailey (Drake)>> And then they wonder why they're miserable afterwards. >> Well, there was um >> it's about equal men and women. Yeah. or maybe men a little worse, but about equal. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.

Alex (TTI)>> I feel like they're all just like heavy heavy heavy heavy generalizations. Like you literally can't just I don't know. I mean like right like you can't group >> two people and be like they're all like

Brian Atlasthis or they're all like this. I mean in general too. >> Okay. Um, why? So, I guess again, why can't why

Alex (TTI)aren't average looking women why can't they just say that they're average looking? I >> think they got different standards. >> Yeah. >> I don't think that I'm a 10. Then how am I going to want to like try and get with

Alex (TTI)a 10 if I'm not thinking that I'm a 10? I mean, legitimately, like, why would you view yourself as anything less than a 10? And I don't mean in like a conceited way, but in a confident way. like like you know like >> wait so your your logic is if I don't

Brian Atlasview myself as a 10 how am I going to get a 10? >> I mean yeah essentially because if I hate myself I'm only going to attract people that probably hate me too. >> You can have a reasonable self self assessment of how you look and not hate yourself.

Brian Atlas>> You can be like yeah you know what I'm average looking but I'm fine with being average. But also I even delusional like just because you're delusional doesn't mean you're gonna get the guy who's a 10. >> Like just because >> I'm I'm okay.

Brian Atlas>> Can I ask you a question? Yeah. Let's say can a woman like clearly not be a 10? >> I mean it goes back to what I said earlier about like being subjective. Like >> here this girl right here is she a 10? The one in

Brian Atlas>> some countries the one on the right would be murdered in some places. >> Yeah. Don't go to Somalia. Thank you for that. So anyways, the one on the left, is she a 10? >> In my opinion, for what I believe in

Alex (TTI)what you believe in. >> I mean, like, like it's subjective. Like, >> what would you rate her from what my subjective personally find attractive? I would not call her a 10, but I wouldn't call the person on the right a 10

Alex (TTI)either. >> Okay. What would you What would you give them both? >> I don't feel comfortable rating people like that cuz I don't think I'd really do that in general. Like I don't know. You do that with men. >> Skinny guy. Yes.

Alex (TTI)>> Preference. We're talking about preference. Not putting a number on somebody. That's different. >> That's kind of what you're doing. >> Mhm. >> But that's I'm saying what? Okay. We're talking about rating someone on a scale from 1 to 10. Like, but that's my thing

Alex (TTI)though is when we're talking about weight, I'm like, okay, I prefer someone who's more muscular over someone who's skinnier. That's just like factual, right? But like giving like it's an arbitrary number. It doesn't mean anything. Like I don't know, an eight holds different weight for me than I

Alex (TTI)might hold for somebody else. Like again, all of this is just so arbitrary. >> Let's say you would agree that there are ugly women though. >> I think that there's ugly people. And I think there's ugly men. >> My what I think is ugly though is going

Brian Atlasto be different from what she thinks is ugly, what she thinks she thinks. >> But whatever you think is ugly. You do acknowledge there are ugly people. Ugly women, ugly men. >> In my opinion, yes. I think in general that yeah, everyone probably has

Alex (TTI)>> person. What if this ugly person is holding out for Brad Pitt? Like Brad Pitt when he was young >> and like >> I have seen women with some atrocities

Alex (TTI)of boyfriends. Genuinely I've seen the reverse too. >> That's exactly my point. So like what like I don't know if someone who like is conventionally unattractive is holding out for like high school Brad Pitt like I don't know that's your prerogative. If you think high school Brad Pitt will

Brian Atlasgive it up to you. Maybe he will. Do you think if you're desirous of getting into a long-term relationship and having like a healthy relationship, maybe getting married one day, maybe having kids, if that's your desire, don't you think like if that's your goal, you need to go

Alex (TTI)about that in a like pragmatic, realistic way. Otherwise, you're not going to ever get that which what you want? >> Well, the realistic way to go about that would be to view yourself in a good light, right? like to love yourself and

Alex (TTI)accept yourself and be okay independently and like be confident in your own like I don't know like >> can I ask you a question? Do you think that there are men >> Yeah. >> who >> Do you think that there are men who

Brian Atlasthink they're more attractive than they actually are? >> Yes. >> And they're cocky and they have a big ego. >> I absolutely a lot. >> Do you know a guy who thinks he's hot [ __ ] but he's not? >> Yes. A lot. >> Yes. And I also know women But I also

Brian Atlasknow women who >> Could women be like that too? >> Yes, that's what I'm saying. I mean, anybody could be like that. >> But you have all fallen victim to that very thing with with which you've just acknowledged is a thing that happens. >> But yet we're all skinny or white like

Alex (TTI)you said was the 10 where you don't look anything like the girl. Just because you're doesn't make you a 10. >> So here's my thing though is like I'm not like I said earlier, I'm not talking about cocky. I'm not talking about I'm hot [ __ ] I'm talking about I love

Alex (TTI)myself and I genuinely think that I'm beautiful. I think that I'm a 10 because I I do. >> Okay. But >> in the same way that if you came up to me and you told me you think you're a 10, I'm not going to debate you on that. If that's how you feel about yourself, then like more power to you.

Brian Atlas>> But then so what it is what does it mean to be cocky? It means >> confident. >> You think No, it means you think you're better than you actually are. >> No, because also I think it's more you think that you're better than other people.

Alex (TTI)>> Yeah. >> But I don't think better. I think I think highly of myself as an individual, as a person. When it comes to me comparatively to the next person, like that's unrealistic because I don't know.

Brian AtlasLike, yeah, I probably think that I'm like less than like compared to >> here. Let me ask you this then. >> Do you think that the guy who's like obese, lives in his mother's basement,

Brian Atlasplays video games all day, smokes weed, smokes cigarettes, uh, Cheeto dust in his [ __ ] >> Well, that's the makes him unattractive.

Brian AtlasHold on. But he believes that he's a 10. Can he get a 10? A a woman who's a 10, who's a supermodel? >> I think the behavior.

Brian Atlas>> Can he answer my question before you go on some more paddle? Answer my question. >> No. >> No, he can't. >> No. Because of the behavior and the difference in lifestyle. >> That's someone with no discipline

Aradaclearly and no drive versus someone who like is disciplined and driven in their own career. So why is it okay for women to have unrealistic standards but not men? >> Like when did I say yeah they do everyone do nowadays?

Brian Atlas>> You're telling me that there are women who have made a determination that they're 10 and they're perfect. Like their behavior is not >> when did I say that? >> That's what a 10 means, right?

Brian Atlas>> You're saying not not totally but >> No, we're talking about looks only. >> You were saying that women should be like I'm a 10 otherwise. This is what you said. If I don't think I'm a 10, how can I get a 10? >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Your perception, your self-perception doesn't dictate what you are to external external reality. >> I really disagree with that cuz I think

Alex (TTI)that if you [ __ ] hate yourself and you let everybody hate I mean I go around and I say I'm ugly. I'm atrocious. Nobody likes me on telling you to do that. >> No. But if I do, people are going to perceive me like that.

Alex (TTI)>> Do you Okay. Do you acknowledge Hold on. Stop. Stop. Do you acknowledge that there are averagel looking women? >> Opposite >> objective. >> Can can women look be average looking? >> How many times do I have to answer this question objectively? Yes. Like I've

Brian Atlassaid yes. I'm acknowledging the fact that that's true. >> So should they? But should a >> people have different truths >> under your framework? Yes. >> Should an averagelooking woman should she think she's a 10 or should she?

Alex (TTI)You're you're making it into this thing of she hates herself, she thinks she's ugly. No. What if she's just like, "I'm average looking girl." >> Which which of the two should she do? >> I'm average. >> What do I keep going back to though? Is

Alex (TTI)that what is average? Cuz that's objective. That is subjective. My average is different than somebody else's average. So if me >> here, look around the table. Look around the [ __ ] table. You got a bunch of average looking women all around you, bro.

Bailey (Drake)>> I mean, I again disagree. >> Yes, really. >> I disagree with that. I don't say average. I don't agree with that at all. Say average. >> Okay. I know. I'm breaking your bra. >> Megan Fox is like very melting. There's not many girls that look and most of the

Alex (TTI)girls that look good, they had surgeries, too. Like almost every supermodel almost point though. It's like we're being comparative to people that aren't real. >> I mean, not even not real, but like one in a millions. Like I'm fine, but that's

Alex (TTI)why they're look like Megan Fox. I don't have Megan Fox money to take care of myself. >> Be like I'm a five or a six. >> But I don't think that I am. I don't think she is. You think you're a five? cuz I on top of that if I had like Megan Fox money to be able to take care of

Alex (TTI)myself like that to be able to look good every day like and do that and like plastic surgery doesn't do that. >> Hey, I'm not saying plastic surgery money to be able to like afford like really nice expensive luxury skin care and like being able to like get a massage and like go to the gym like

Alex (TTI)things like that cost. >> That's not going to turn a two into a nine. >> It doesn't even a guy that takes care of himself like his beard and how he shave. Well, if I showed up here, right, looking like

Brian Atlasthis versus if I showed up here how I looked this morning, rolling out of bed, objectively. >> Oh, yeah. We get it. You're wearing You're wearing fake lashes. You've got makeup on. You've done your eyebrows.

Alex (TTI)>> I think I'm a 10 regardless of how I looked when I roll out of bed. >> Wait, so you're a 10 even before the makeup? >> Yes. >> Why? Why would you put on makeup now? >> Because I love myself and I wanted to look a little different. Oh my god. Cuz I wanted to put fake lashes on. You

Brian Atlasknow, I almost never wear lashes. >> That's great. If makeup has a tendency to improve one's physical appearance, then surely then surely you couldn't be a 10 prior to the makeup. Even if I granted why do you do makeup? Cuz I started doing it at 11 as like face

Brian Atlaspaint. >> Even if I granted that you're a 10 in your current state, which >> you're not. >> Okay. >> You would not be a 10 without the makeup then. >> I disagree. Then why would you if you're a 10 and then it's still

Alex (TTI)>> some people think that makeup look makes women look less attractive. >> Yep. And we get that on the show a lot. >> So if I'm only putting on makeup to make which I'm not then like what? >> Yeah. She's doing it for her not guys approval. >> Well and either way like >> cuz most of us know that they don't like

Alex (TTI)it. >> Realistically I do do it for me because nine times out of 10 I don't wear makeup. >> But I felt like wearing makeup today. Got up early, had time to do it. Decided to. It's been been a couple weeks. But regardless of that,

SPEAKER_00>> George, >> yes, I thought it was a 10 when I rolled out of bed this morning. >> The woman had decent looks, little to no body count, was down to earth, had no baggage, and didn't believe in feminism, but she wouldn't bow for me.

Brian Atlas>> Pull some stuff up. >> Don't be a tarded chair, too. >> Yo, pasty, thank you, man. She wouldn't bow for me. I would choose her. Okay. >> Decent looks, little no body count, was

Chloe (Mercedes)down to earth, but she wouldn't bow for me. I would choose her. Mhm. >> Yeah. I mean, >> what can I say? He He's the biggest contributor to you, to this show, to this podcast.

Chloe (Mercedes)>> He's got casino money. >> Congratulations, Pasty. >> Go for him. You should go for him. >> There's There's just no point to, you know, upset him because he's helping this. >> Oh, watch. Check this [ __ ] out. [ __ ]

Alex (TTI)you, Pasty. >> [ __ ] you, Pasty. >> You agree? >> You piece of [ __ ] You [ __ ] Canadian. >> He has to be enjoying it. He's been sitting here. >> I'm going to burn the Canadian flag on the pot. See? See? Check that [ __ ] out. I just talk mad [ __ ] to Pasty.

Chloe (Mercedes)>> But still, you give him, you show them respect every time you read his comments out loud and post this long time for him. That's what he wants. >> He's a patron of the show. >> Yes. The show is for the fans.

Brian Atlas>> That whoever do to their patron That's whoever do to their patrons. >> Yeah. But if somebody sent in a message that I disagreed with, they're like, "Oh, the earth is flat." Or I don't know something about dating. They're just like, "Well, uh, they send in 200 or

Brian Atlaswhatever." And they're like, "Uh, you know, me personally, uh, I prefer, uh, you know, women who've done porn and blah, blah, blah, blah." I'd be like, nah, nah, I wouldn't just agree with it just cuz they're sending in a super

Brian Atlaschat. In this case, me and Pasty happen to agree on quite a bit quite a lot. >> What a coincidence. I happen to have that,

Brian Atlas>> bro. If I was if I was actually audience captured, I would be here saying I'm an Orthodox Christian. >> Yeah, true. >> Oh my. Okay, >> true. >> I I'm fine with Christianity. I'm cool with Christianity. Don't I'm I'm not an

Chloe (Mercedes)anti-theist. >> And if I really wanted to griff, I just lie and be like, "Yeah, you know, I'm a >> lot of coincidence." You have common

Chloe (Mercedes)>> place with the uh past what's it called? Pasti >> pasty. Tasty. >> Tasty. >> But George, >> what's the coincidence? >> Like coincidence? You have common space with him.

Chloe (Mercedes)>> You have Wow. It's a conspiracy. This is a transatlantic. Wait, >> a trans Cananadian conspiracy. >> I didn't hear anything. You disagree

Chloe (Mercedes)with him. So I said that's coincident. You agree with every every comment he dropped. >> He hasn't said anything wrong so far. So that's a that's not a coincidence.

Brian Atlas>> You're right. It's just a conspirac. I'm sing for Pacy George. I'm sure Pacy George could send some [ __ ] in that I disagree with. Like for example, maybe we should annex Canada. Maybe it Canada shouldn't be a country. >> I'm waiting to see.

Brian Atlas>> Just kidding. I'm kidding about that. But I'm sure he would disagree. He'd be like, "No, we like our sovereignty." >> Why are you just kidding? Own it. If you really think that way, own it. >> Own what? >> Own whatever you really think. Don't say

Chloe (Mercedes)something then then say just kidding. >> Oh well it's I mean that's why I >> do they have jokes in China? >> I'm just waiting to see I'm just waiting to see if there's any disagreement you have with >> All right, Pasty. We need the hot takes.

Chloe (Mercedes)We need the hot takes. >> Controversial opinions. >> More comments. Just >> Oh, wasn't >> Muddy Ninja donated $200. Just because you open your legs for a 10

Brian Atlasdoes not make you a 10. But that's not >> most men will be down for anything if you open your legs. >> Way. >> The reason I push back on this so much is that just because a guy will dick you down >> doesn't mean he'll wife you up.

Brian Atlas>> Mhm. >> So women have access to men outside their league. The reverse really is not the case. And so when women are delusional, when women are delusional and think that they're more attractive

Brian Atlasthan they actually are, you can you can get limited access to a guy who's really attractive or meets whatever your metrics of attraction are. You can sleep with that guy. Just because you can

Brian Atlassleep with a guy doesn't mean you can get in a relationship with him. Doesn't mean he'll give you commitment. Doesn't mean he'll give you the ring. Right? Maybe you guys know this from

Brian Atlasexperience. H maybe has it ever been the case that you wanted a particular guy to be your boyfriend and you slept with him but he didn't want anything more?

Brian AtlasThere's a difference here. Typically like for example as a guy if I can sleep with a girl if I can sleep with a girl I have a high level of confidence I can

Brian Atlasget her into a relationship. I don't think women can be as confident as it relates to this >> like digmatize her. >> Digmatize her

Queen D>> like you know when you like give her such good sex that she >> It's not about well it's not even about the sex >> but it's more so

Brian Atlasmen men and women are different right? Like here here's for here's an example. When guys pursue casual sex, they'll sleep with a girl that just on the basis

Brian Atlasof her looks alone, like they'll sleep with a woman who they don't find commitment level attractive, right? So, and I'm talking about looks, right? So, just on that basis alone, like a guy

Brian Atlaswill sleep with a girl, use her for sex, whatever, but she's just not attractive enough that he would ever be in a relationship with her. But typically when women sleep with men, typically,

Brian Atlasnot again, I'm not not a monolith here, for a woman to sleep with a guy, he typically has to be at least attractive enough physically that she'd be in a relationship with him.

Brian AtlasSo, this creates a bit of a differential here. >> It's [ __ ] up on the guys end more, but yes. >> Well, yeah. Look, my personal perspective is >> you shouldn't be having sex with someone you don't want a relationship with. >> Yeah, I sure I agree with that. I don't think you should be like men who are

Brian Atlasjust running through girls with no intention of like anything more. I don't think anybody should move like that, whether you're a man or a woman. I think people should be a bit more intentional. I'm not saying you got to be a virgin, wait until marriage or whatever, but at

Brian Atlasleast be a bit more intentional with who you choose to sleep with. But the difference is, like I said, women, you can sleep with men outside your league. Like women will break the

Brian Atlasrule the opposite way. If a woman is otherwise relationship-minded, but she's like gonna have a casual sexual encounter or one night stand, he better be really attractive. Like, if she's

Brian Atlasgonna just [ __ ] a guy once, he he's got to be he's got to be really attractive. Whereas men are like the opposite. If a guy's just trying to bust

Brian Atlasa nut, he's just he's just looking for a girl who's willing and not really. Like obviously you ideal ideally the guy's like well it would be great if she's attractive too but men will go the

Brian Atlasopposite way. They'll just sleep with a girl wi with just on her looks alone he would never be in a relationship with her but he's trying to bust a nut. And so this is why I think it's

Bailey (Drake)important for women to be realistic because >> but just physical look alone is not realistic whatsoever. >> What do you mean? It's not I mean in that sense just sex but again that's just a shitty person. You don't want to

Brian Atlasbe associated with that person anyway. So why would we care? We wouldn't we don't want to be associated with those guys anyway. But yeah, >> but but knowing I'm not saying it's a good thing, but knowing that men

Brian Atlas>> some men move in this way where they will sleep with you >> and have no intention just on your looks alone of I look I get that people do like casual hookups, whatever, friends with benefits, one night stands,

Brian Atlaswhatever. But just on your looks alone, he would never consider you for a relationship. He just wants he's just using you for your [ __ ] basically. Not saying it's the right thing to do, but knowing that men do that, >> I think it's reasonable to to come at

Brian Atlasthings with like, >> no, why we deal with them at all? We don't want to appease them at all. Those type of guys. >> But what I'm saying is as women to protect yourselves, you got to think, am

Brian AtlasI dealing with a guy like, am I dealing with a guy outside of my league? And when women just wholesale start saying, I'm a 10, I'm a 10, I'm a 10. You're not going to be able to make that

Brian Atlasdetermination. You think, "Well, I'm a 10, so of course this guy who's good-looking or has status or is rich or whatever, of course he wants me because I'm a 10." >> I think that that you ain't going to get

Alex (TTI)commitment. >> I know, but I think that bleeds into the whole like premise of like what I'm trying to explain thinking you're a 10 is. Cuz I think if you really truly believe that you're a 10, you're not going to allow a man to disrespect you like that. >> How would it What are you talking about? >> Like what do you mean? And like if I

Alex (TTI)really like if I really think that I'm like right like valuable as a person, as an individual, as a human being, and I think that I'm a 10 and I have that confidence in myself, then I don't think I'd subject myself to What do you mean?

Brian Atlas>> How would you be able to control that? So, okay. You willingly hook up with a guy. Guys do it all the time. You willingly hook up with a guy and then you have sex with him once, two times, three times. He's had his fill. Hold on. He's had his fill.

Brian Atlas>> You wouldn't do that. Okay. >> No. Like that's also just not the type of person I am. >> So just to be clear, yes. >> Every single guy you've had sex with always resulted in a relationship. >> Yes.

Brian Atlas>> You realize not all women move like that? >> Yes. But so like not all men. >> Do you have any Do you have any Do you have any girlfriends who have ever complained to you, "Oh my god, I really like this guy. He's so attractive, but

Alex (TTI)he won't commit to me." You've never heard this phenomenon. I mean like yeah I have but >> okay why why do you think that's happening? Well, my thing that I'm trying to explain to you is those girls who have had those problems that have

Alex (TTI)came to me about that don't think that they're tens. They have low self-esteem. They don't think highly of them. >> So, if they thought they were tens, then they would get the commitment. Just their thoughts. >> That's not what I'm saying. No, I'm saying that you

Alex (TTI)>> manifestation it's more likely I guess. >> I mean like a manifest not even I mean like partly but in more in the sense of like >> they just don't like anything spiritual. this >> I don't know like the way not I mean cuz it's not even that the way I explain it

Alex (TTI)is like it's like selft talk right like if I constantly tell myself like >> I'm ugly I'm unattractive cuz they're very beautiful women who think that they're ugly. >> Yep. And they and we see it all the time in the industries. >> Look my >> supermodels talk about that [ __ ] in

Brian Atlasinterviews that they think that they're unattractive and they think they're ugly and they think they're this and they're subjectively tend to like my position my position is not for women to wholesale think they're ugly. My position is for

Brian Atlaswomen to be realistic. >> So why would you why would we do that if she's average? We don't want to attract those type of guys. >> Average. >> Yeah, >> that's it. >> Like,

SPEAKER_02but what if you don't think that you are? And is that But that's completely subjective. >> It's not completely subjective. >> Completely subjective. >> It's not. It's literally not. >> Yes, it is. >> How is it?

Brian Atlas>> Not completely, but almost >> completely subjective. >> No, it's literally completely because it actually is. How would you explain universality? >> But what do you mean? I don't think there is universality. >> For example, I believe I believe if it

Brian Atlasis the case that I could show what how many people are on the planet, 8 billion, 9 billion, what's I don't know what the number is. M >> you would agree that I could take like two men

Brian Atlas>> and like again you must think it's all subjective but like a most beautiful man most handsome man ever and like a really un like okay I I don't know who's like a

Bailey (Drake)male supermodel >> trying to think who um Nick pull up the discord I think this will be really easy >> it's not infinitively it's not infinitively subjective but in the time

Brian Atlasof that current moment of the earth's evol solution. It can be some looks and then Tom Welling, scroll up, click the first photo. >> So, >> so I'm going to for the panelists here,

Brian AtlasI'm going to ask you to look at this photo and then I'm going to just tell you to compare his looks to another man. Okay, this is Tom Welling. He's a bit

Brian Atlasolder now. This is when he was younger. Next one. Next photo. Just tap M. Uh,

Brian Atlasnext. Well, okay. We don't need Next. All right. Uh, that's a good-look guy, right? >> Mhm.

SPEAKER_02>> Now, Nick, Google a picture of Donald Trump. >> And you can't judge him based on his politics or whatever. Just Google Donald Trump. Melania is married to him. Like, clearly someone thinks he's attractive.

Bailey (Drake)>> Hold on. That's what we're arguing about here. Also, >> Trump is perhaps bringing other things like status, money, etc. >> Exactly. what you keep focusing on

Brian Atlasphysical and that's not really >> all right so I believe very strongly very strongly that I could show the two pictures

Brian Atlas>> and I think there would be almost universal from women they couldn't factor in you know whatever you disagree with Trump's politics whatever they would pick the first guy almost universally

Alex (TTI)>> well I think that's part of like I feel like it's really hard to show a picture of Trump and not factor in like I'll show you somebody else then if you want to be uh difficult about it. >> I mean, no, it's not even that. >> And a lot of women would just be a point that I feel like can't even really be

Brian Atlasargued against. >> Who's that guy? Uh shoot the the the guy who in in who? What's that movie with Olivia?

Brian AtlasWait. Or the show about the Adams family. I don't watch this [ __ ] >> Wednesday. >> Wednesday. Who's the father? What's his name? >> Oh, the father. the uncle. Um um um I don't know. >> Yeah. No. What's the actor's name?

Brian Atlas>> Carlos. >> No, it's not Carlos. >> I know it's something Ramirez, isn't it? >> Louisman. >> Louisman. >> Luis Suzman. Pull up. Pull up a photo.

Brian AtlasAll right. So, you guys probably don't have any like negative political associations with this guy. >> Uh click the f first photo, Nick. Oh, you here. Mouse wheel. Make it bigger, please.

Brian Atlas>> It's fine. No, no, no, no, no. Go back. Go back. Go back. Just X out of that thing. It'll just show this is fine. Scroll down. Scroll down. Okay. Uh,

Brian Atlaswhich guy's more attractive? That guy or Tom Tom Welling? >> It's still just subjective. If he's anything like he is in the TV show, then literally, >> bro, there's no >> based on my type of man, the first one,

Alex (TTI)but the second one when we were scrolling through, there was like pictures of him when he was like younger and he looked fine. >> I think he looked like he looked. >> It's not about whether he looked fine.

Brian AtlasFine. We could compare young Luis Guzman to Tom Welling. I would still posit that universally 99% of women are gonna pick

Alex (TTI)the first guy. >> I don't think but my my dilemma is that does that definitively mean that they are genuinely more attractive? Because I don't I think that it's still if you pull subjective

Arada>> yeah it's still subjective but it's universal. >> Objective is 100% of people would choose um the male model over Louise. That's >> No, even it would still be subjective. It would still be subjective.

Brian Atlas>> That it would have to be fact for it to be objective. >> But these aren't strictly What I'm trying to say is it's not strictly objective or subjective. >> I think it's I think it's mostly subjective.

Brian Atlas>> No, it's not. Beauty is not Hold on. Beauty is not objective in this strict philosophical sense, but it's not purely subjective either. Again, if we're

Brian Atlastalking about universal aesthetics, then that does point to it being grounded in some objective components. >> But like

Alex (TTI)it's it's things though that I mean like if we're talking about like baseline, I mean like yeah, like what like symmetry like certain things like that >> symmetry? >> Like if that's the basis of it, then

Brian Atlaslike yeah, that's just like science. Like whatever. But like with everything I know, but like >> traits. >> So that's if if something is measurable, if there's measurable traits that can be

Brian Atlasgrounded in objective components like for example, >> so no one has a soul and we all just look at things. >> How about this? Are uh generally speaking,

Alex (TTI)>> do women assess male attract like uh when it comes to height like being taller is more attractive? Generally speaking, >> I mean, no. Honestly, I'm not going to lie to you. No. And the only reason I

Alex (TTI)say this is because I feel like every time this gets brought up around, like whenever I see a group of women talk about this, nine times out of 10, like most women are like, "No, I really don't care." Like, they're just like a little taller than me or like my height and it's like not that big of a deal. Like I

Brian Atlasdon't know women that go out and are like, "You're not 6'5"? I don't think so. >> Yeah, that's a great extreme example you've given. But I would say, for example, most women have a preference towards dating a man who's taller than them.

Alex (TTI)>> Mhm. Yeah, >> that is true. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I think a lot of men have a preference for dating women that are shorter than them. >> Men don't care. >> Most men probably care. Men care far less usually. I feel like nowadays >> men care way less about height than

Alex (TTI)women. >> I get called tall by an obnoxious amount, which is also absurd because the point just sad. >> That doesn't disprove the point. Um but okay,

Alex (TTI)>> it's about equal. I don't know why we pretend like it's not. Yeah, that's my other thing is like we're arguing like well men this well woman well like both of us like I don't know like we all just have our issues. I feel like that's just individuals like people like I don't

Aradaknow. >> I just don't understand what about being like realistic towards yourself makes you insecure. I think it would make you really secure as a person to acknowledge your realistic flaws that you have still.

Bailey (Drake)Stop cutting me off. You guys aren't adults. And appreciate yourself as a human, but also being realistic. Acknowledging that you have flaws. Maybe there's things that you can work on. You can do better. Be humble. But you guys aren't only basing it off of looks. And that's exactly what you're doing, both

Alex (TTI)of you. >> Because Yeah. Cuz there's my thing is if we're talking I know if we're talking about bettering yourself. I know. If we're talking about bettering yourself as a human being, like personally, then yeah, that's different than what we're talking about. What I'm talking about is >> bettering yourself physically, too. I

SPEAKER_00mean, >> oh, but that's now we're going off topic. >> Far rather donated $1,000. This show is essential for many men to show them the sad reality of the state

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Brian Atlasan AI at this point. >> Yo, Py George, thank you, man. Rage, >> we're gonna do a champagne run. We're a little delayed on that, but we we'll get to it. Thank you, Py George. Well put. Oh, he's actually an AI,

Brian Atlas>> is he? >> Apparently, >> oh [ __ ] Arturo member for 31 months. Thank you, man. >> Uh, okay. We have some chats coming through. Charles, what's up? >> Should she grab two?

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, just grab two. Uh, panel, would you date Ryan Reynolds or Joseph Carrie Merrick? also known as the elephant elephant man. Nick, can you Google both those guys? >> I didn't even wait for the second one on >> I I know who I know Ryan Reynolds, but

Brian Atlasspeaking of which, >> I've got a whole bunch of >> I'm being safe. >> Pull out. >> Uh, wait. Elephant man

Brian Atlasimages. Ooh. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Is it fair to do to include deformity though? >> I don't think that that's fair. I don't think that's fair. >> That is probably a lowb blow.

Brian Atlas>> Let's just say he's the elephant man. He's severely deformed. I don't know. I don't know if it's in good taste to >> I feel like that's maybe >> is in Chad is in bad taste to >> pull it up.

Arada>> How about Peanut from Goonies versus Ryan Reynolds? Cuz that's a fictional character.

Brian AtlasUm, pull it up. Who cares? I mean, there's a w I there's a Wikipedia page about it. So, it's like I think it some people Wait, some people

Alex (TTI)are saying bad taste. I don't know. >> Well, because can I feel like if someone has like facial deformities, you're probably dead. >> Okay.

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