She Dated DRAKE?! Gold Digger?! $5,000,000/Year To Date Her?! Prison Dating?! | Dating Talk #259
Date: 2025-09-08
Duration: 8h 18m
Guests
Identified Speakers
SPEAKER_03Erica (Oregon)(guest)
SPEAKER_04Alex (TTI)(guest)
SPEAKER_05Arada(guest)
SPEAKER_06Kylie (Gap Year)(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_09Chloe (Mercedes)(guest)
SPEAKER_11Gati(guest)
SPEAKER_12Bailey (Drake)(guest)
SPEAKER_14Queen D(guest)
Key Moments
00:04:24
IntroAll guests introduced. Bailey claims Drake twin flame.
00:24:54
Key MomentBailey: identified Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt reincarnations who wanted to date her
02:16:00
Key MomentChloe: ~70-100 sugar daddies, $300K total. 75yo sponsor paid $80-85K.
02:37:07
QuoteBrian calls Chloe 'basically a prostitute'
05:21:00
ControversyArada demands $5M/yr minimum and 6'2" minimum height
07:15:45
Key MomentWrestling match challenge: Arada vs producer Nick after she claims women as strong as men
Topics Discussed
00:04:24
Guest Introductions
Including Bailey who claims Drake is her twin flame and identifies reincarnated presidents.
02:16:00
Sugar Dating Deep Dive
Chloe's 70-100 arrangements, $300K total, 75yo sponsor.
03:06:00
Self-Ratings and AI Photos
Ratings, aging photos, gender swap.
05:21:00
Income/Height Requirements
Arada wants $5M/yr and 6'2". Bailey wants $1M.
05:47:36
Bear vs Man
Most choose bear. Brian draws racism parallel.
06:06:00
Body Count Round
Chloe 50+. Gati ~40. Arada 13. Erica 7.
Transcript
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02:57:58
Brian Atlascoming. That's a problem. >> Wait, lady. Calm down, Bailey. Calm your tits. >> Calm down. >> We can put you in doggy style and we can You don't have to move at all. You don't
02:58:08
Brian Atlashave to do anything. You should, but you don't have to. And we can make ourselves come just by you being there. But the reverse typically isn't always true. If
02:58:20
Brian Atlasa guy was just had a stiffy and you put him in whatever position you want him to be in, but he can't move, whether it's doggy or you're on top, whatever it is.
02:58:31
Brian AtlasMost women couldn't make themselves come just from that. >> I could say some women Yeah. No, I'm saying most women couldn't. >> Oh, I feel like they could. I genuinely
02:58:43
Alex (TTI)feel it depends on the woman. But >> I feel like men mess up my nut more than I do. I'm not going to lie. >> The men mess up your nut, >> dude. Yeah. Like what about like don't stop means stop doing what you're doing.
02:58:54
Brian AtlasI don't understand. >> Well, see the way the way men [ __ ] it up. >> The way men [ __ ] it up, >> the woman indicates that whatever's >> about whatever is happening, >> tax returns,
02:59:06
Brian Atlas>> the woman will indicate, okay, whatever whatever the guy's doing is good. And then he'll like switch it up. He'll speed it up or he'll [ __ ] the whole thing up. You just got to stay the course. You got to stay the [ __ ]
02:59:19
Brian Atlascourse. Otherwise, >> why are you telling me that? >> Got to keep rhythm. >> But the point I guess the point I was trying to make with the previous thing is is it's just a woman can make herself calm like in that scenario I described, but it's way more common for the guy to
02:59:33
Brian Atlasbe able to reach climax than the reverse. So, it's just harder for to be good in bed as a man. And also like it's hard to be batten dead if if you're a woman. >> Yeah.
02:59:43
Brian Atlas>> It's hard. Like you gotta [ __ ] up majorly. Like [ __ ] is like pizza. >> Like it's hard like it it bad pizza.
02:59:53
Brian AtlasIt's still it's it's pizza. It's still good. You know use it. That's what you mean. They can still use that [ __ ] >> But like dick that's I don't know. That's like a steak. You can [ __ ] a
03:00:05
Brian Atlassteak. Oh my. If it's too overcooked, you can [ __ ] up steak. >> If it's too small, >> you're right. If it's a small portion >> Yeah. >> of steak. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. That that disappointing.
03:00:17
Chloe (Mercedes)>> There's so many good they can also provide. You don't have to [ __ ] the good dick only like Mr. Broki only. >> If they're paying if they're paying you is what you're saying. Kylie, what do
03:00:27
Kylie (Gap Year)you think about this? >> What is the specific topic? I kind of I space out at the end. >> Zoning out. >> Yeah. What do you what do you think >> of >> about
03:00:40
Brian Atlasthe Roman Empire? >> Roman I don't know much about the Roman Empire. >> What do you think about
03:00:47
Brian Atlas>> the uh Russian invasion of Georgia that happened a while ago? >> Never never heard of that.
03:00:57
Brian Atlas>> Russia invaded Georgia. Not the state, the country. It's in the Balkans kind of. I've never heard of that.
03:01:07
Brian Atlas>> You should be asking me those question. >> What do you think about the ribbon trop >> plan? Wait, is it the Hold on. Ribbon Trump pacted.
03:01:20
Brian Atlas>> Oh, you can ask me these questions. Then you don't even know. >> What do you think about the Molotov Ribbon Tropact? >> I don't know what that is. >> Okay.
03:01:31
Chloe (Mercedes)>> Because they are making topic. They want to make clips like girls don't know no [ __ ] Only thing they know is asking for for [ __ ] and they don't know anything about history. It's like material for the
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SPEAKER_00>> George donated $200. >> Not true. >> Almost all First Nations women can still hunt fish and skin animals. >> Really? >> Most can survive in the wilderness and make a fire without matches or a
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Alex (TTI)lighter. If they can do it, why can't other women? >> I don't know. We haven't had that can do that. I don't know. >> I feel like if I threw a guy out in the woods and told them to like make a fire, they'd start crying.
03:02:09
Gati>> I don't know. >> Yeah, that's true. Nowadays, yeah, >> we can probably all do this. >> Brian says that they need the princess treatment. >> That's right. >> So, that's why they're going to stay in that. >> We need to be in us men need to be in our princess era right now
03:02:23
Gati>> because >> they're not going to know how to do that [ __ ] >> Yeah. Most of them probably do not >> and [ __ ] go in the woods and do [ __ ] >> they're going to be scared like like us girls.
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Arada>> Yo, if a man was like do hunt and fish, like I'd be like, you know what? >> Let's go. >> Sweet. >> Let's do it. >> Those are some pretty basic survival skills, I feel like. You know, fishing, cooking, hunting, etc. Skinning stuff.
03:02:46
Brian AtlasIt's all pretty simple. I learned how to skin a fish and I was like eight. >> We have Pelagic here. Super chat. New age narcissistic [ __ ] You aren't special. Do you want to respond to that? It's for you, Bailey. >> Oh, >> wait. What? Why?
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Brian Atlas>> What? He didn't even give a context as to why he said that. >> He says new age narcissistic [ __ ] You're like new age hippie [ __ ] >> How? How is anything I'm saying narcissistic if it's just the truth and
03:03:09
Bailey (Drake)if it's just That's weird. It's not like I'm manipulating people like a lot of you and I actually use my ego, which is a real narcissist. >> Who was Nick? You see Nick, my producer? Who was he in the past life? >> I have no idea. >> You'll know.
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Bailey (Drake)>> It might take a while. Like sometimes I do know pretty fast but really takes a while. >> Do you need to like hold his hands or some [ __ ] >> Yeah, actually. So I can So my friend, she spent the night with me in the bed. Didn't really touch each other and I dreamt of who she was.
03:03:36
Bailey (Drake)>> Oh wow. >> So that was interesting. And who her twin flame is cuz apparently she also has one. >> So yeah, I could even just them sleeping near me holding hands. Maybe one day if
03:03:47
Bailey (Drake)it gets to that point. >> That sounds crazy though. I don't know if I want to do all that, but maybe. We'll see.
03:03:59
Brian Atlas>> Interesting. Wait, hold on. Somebody says I missed a chat. >> Oh, you did. >> Uh, >> I remember >> what? Wait, hold on. Let me look. >> Was >> Let me look.
03:04:10
Bailey (Drake)>> Who was it for? >> Wait, hold on. No, I didn't. >> Yeah, there was one that at least you didn't talk about it and it just was on there for a little bit and then it went away. I think it was to her actually. I have no idea.
03:04:24
Bailey (Drake)>> One of the ones was to her. It was like she's the only one that deserves to be married. There's that one we didn't discuss. >> This one says I missed a $100 chat. What was your name? >> Jet. You're going to have to send
03:04:35
Brian Atlasanother one in. Pretty sure I didn't miss it. Tell me what your name was that you sent the chat under and I'll take a look. >> Pretty sure I didn't miss it, though. Uh
03:04:44
Brian Atlasso yeah, I don't know. >> Uh we have another chat here. Uh, boom. >> Mike does call it. >> Yeah. Here for the fit check.
03:04:55
Brian Atlas>> Check. My sprinkler goes like this. >> All right. All right. Everybody stand up. We're going to do fit check. >> Oh jeez. >> Fit check. >> Comes back. >> We need to Everybody wants to see your
03:05:09
Brian Atlasfit. >> Stand up. >> Everybody wants to see the fit. >> Oh, do we have to go now? >> Yeah. Stand up. Just stand up where you're sitting. >> All right. Boom. Oh, kind of blocked
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Brian Atlashere. All right. >> All right. There it is. The fit little. Let's see. Spin. >> No. >> Spin. >> I don't have enough room. >> Spin. No. Okay.
03:05:32
Brian Atlas>> All right. There's the fit. Boom. There's the fits. Congrats. What is your dress? Is that What statue is that? >> You guys can sit. >> Oh, I thought you might have me. I think it's supposed to be Venus because Venus. That's what it said.
03:05:44
Brian Atlas>> That's cool. >> But it doesn't look like it. Maybe. We have a uh message that unfortunately because our Streamyard is not working, we can't pull it up. Rate your looks on a scale of 1 to 10.
03:05:57
Brian AtlasYou can't pick seven. Going around the table, starting with you. >> That's my favorite. >> What do you rate your own looks on a scale of 1 to 10? >> Shoot. Based off my own opinion and perception. 10. >> 10. Okay. What about you? >> Eight.
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Brian Atlas>> Eight. >> You said I can't say something. >> Uh, fix your mic. Just straighten it a bit so it's like facing you. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. I can't pick seven. So, what do you pick?
03:06:20
Brian Atlas>> 7.5. >> Full numbers. >> Eight. >> Eight. Okay. >> Like an eight on a good day. >> Eight on a good What about a bad day? >> Six. >> Okay. So, we'll go with eight then. What
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Bailey (Drake)about you? >> Probably a six. >> Probably a six. Okay. >> The same answer. I always say 10 because I look like how I wanted to look. Again, we don't need to get into that. I did that last time. >> Okay. Okay. What about you?
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Brian Atlas>> 10 because I love myself. >> Okay. What about you? >> Solid six. >> Into the mic. >> Solid six. >> All right. So, we have we have three tens, three eights. Wow. I >> uh very attractive panel that we have
03:07:01
Brian Atlastonight. Then >> I always get the most attractive women. >> Um to the to the tens at the table, you're going to draw my eye for a moment. >> 10. Someone probably say I'm a six, but I
03:07:14
Brian Atlasthink 10 personally. >> Uh, couple questions here. I want you to name a woman, like maybe a celebrity who you think is a 10. >> Off the top of my head. >> Yeah. >> Oh, dude, I'm like really bad about
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Alex (TTI)this. Uh, uh, you know what's her face that plays Fiona Gallagher from Shameless? I don't know. >> Pretty. Yes. Thank you. She's really beautiful.
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Bailey (Drake)Emma Watson >> or No, it's like Emma or something. >> Sure. Who's the 10? A female 10. >> Megan Fox. >> Megan Fox 10.
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Brian Atlas>> Zinda. >> Zenaia 10. Okay. Uh, just to be clear, those of you who said 10 and you gave us a 10 of another woman who you think is a 10, you guys are just saying you're just
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Bailey (Drake)as good-looking as Megan Fox. Zenaia. >> I mean, she's trying to be like me. Siphon off my energy. So, sure, >> bro. Well, Megan Fox doesn't know who the [ __ ] you are. >> Oh, yes, she does. Actually, she's done black m magic on me plenty of times. And if you want, I can call a lot more
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Bailey (Drake)people if you want to get there. >> No, these people don't know who you are. >> Yes, they do. All the Masons, all I single one. And I actually wrote that so we could talk about that later. Okay, next question.
03:08:26
Brian Atlas>> Megan Fox casted black magic on you. >> Yep. And Rihanna and Beyonce in the same night one time. If I ever met these people, if I met any of these women and I was like, "Hey, do you know this chick named Bailey?" >> Of course, they're not going to say, "Are you stupid?"
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Bailey (Drake)>> Oh, they're going to deny it. >> Of course, they're not stupid. I mean, they they are a little bit, but >> why? >> Cuz why are they doing black magic on me when I love them? And it's like they shouldn't be. They should just be my friends, but it is what it is. >> Yeah. Okay.
03:08:52
Brian Atlas>> Cuz I love them more than anything. >> Okay. Just as good-looking as Megan Fox. Just as good-looking as Zenaia. >> Okay. Uh, tell me a guy who's a 10.
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Bailey (Drake)Uh, >> why am I so bad at thinking of people? Can I Can you come back to me? >> Okay, coming back. Who's a guy who's a 10? >> Wait, come back to me, too, because >> Oh,
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Bailey (Drake)>> I I need a m moment to think about that. Oh, the guy from 365 days. Him and Megan actually did a movie together. So, both of them. >> I'm not sure what that is. What's his name? >> Oh gosh. Michael
03:09:28
Bailey (Drake)Michael B. Jordan. Cuz I was going to say, >> but he's Yeah, him too. Is it 10? >> Michael B. Jordan. >> Michael B. Jordan. Male 10. Okay. Do you have a male 10?
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Brian Atlas>> I don't know. Like I don't like the only like um >> Who's that guy who played Elvis? Is I don't know. Is he Would you say he's a 10? >> Oh, Austin. >> I feel like my type I like I don't
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Alex (TTI)>> I I don't know. My type in men is like probably not like like >> like Twinky like very >> machine gun Kelly. I arguably most of the time date men that like probably
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Alex (TTI)like look like a little like fruity >> like like they're on heroin. >> No, they look f Okay. Well, >> yo, that was like more masculine energy. >> Wait, are you saying that cuz of her looks?
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Alex (TTI)>> No, like it was to the point where um like anytime like my friends like we drive by someone skinny, they'd be like, "Look, it's your man on the side of the road." Cuz I said like if he looks like he's going to float away in the wind,
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Alex (TTI)it's probably for me. Is it like pretty skinny men? >> Like Yeah. >> Okay. I have the same. >> Are they like more feminine? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> But I think that's what attracts me to it cuz I like if when I think of like woman like attractive woman, I could name you like 10 and like I'm sitting
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Alex (TTI)here like >> I know. >> Trying to think of men. >> I think the first thing that comes in mind is probably Jason Mimoa. Moa. >> I don't know. I think I just like more like feminine appearing men.
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Alex (TTI)>> Yeah. can't get down with like a big nose, but like the big eyelashes and like nice eyes. Like I don't know, like the the like little features. I feel like >> I don't know. I dated a guy who took better care of his hair than me and I think it was a red flag. I should have
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Alex (TTI)ran sooner. >> I agree. That's a huge >> bisexual. >> Yeah. Well, I'm like pan. I just like I say pan cuz it's like I'm open to anything. Like it's literally I don't care if I'm attracted to then I'm attracted. >> It's just based on personality, right?
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Alex (TTI)>> Yeah. I just like if I'm attracted to you, it doesn't really matter what you have going on down there. Thanks, Mary. >> What flavor is that? >> Avocado. >> Vanilla. That looks really good.
03:11:31
Alex (TTI)>> Avocado. It looks so good. >> Avocado. >> Can I say avocado? I heard someone like say avocado. Well, cuz avocado smoothies are a thing. >> I don't I don't like melon, right? >> Huh? >> Is it melon? It's like honey, right?
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Arada>> Oh, okay. >> Do you have to eat or lick it? >> I'm not answering that question. Um, >> so are we talking about Twinkie Men? I know someone. I know someone for you.
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AradaSet her up. >> I'm cleared. I'm good. I'm doing my thing with >> How do you feel about >> uh Luigi Manion, >> dude? Ooh, >> dude. We need to free him. >> What kind?
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Arada>> Free my man. Luigi, I want to talk about that. Like genuinely though. >> The one that everyone just stopped talking about him. >> The one that merged CEO. >> Everyone just like stopped talking about him. I feel like actually feel about
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Alex (TTI)him. >> We were inches. Well, I Okay. like hot take, but like I lowkey don't think that he did it >> really. >> Like genuinely, well, he hasn't been convicted yet also. Like he still hasn't been convicted or like face trial or anything like legitimately, but it's
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Alex (TTI)just cuz like there's like inconsistencies that I've seen like coming up like genuinely like >> it might be a setup. It might be a >> weird like like I do weird like I like like looking into things like that and I don't mean like hot take like he definitely didn't do it but like there's
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Bailey (Drake)low key like >> but I think that's why most women like him more because they think that he did do it. Bailey, what do you think? Do you think he did it? >> It could have been his setup. I don't
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Bailey (Drake)know. Actually, I haven't focused on it too much, but it could be some type of setup because he's in like Diddy's cell, like not his cell, but he's like it's the same lawyers and the same case and it's it was like around the same time.
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Bailey (Drake)So, it might be staged. So, I'm not going to say 100%. I don't know. But, if he did do it, I think that's why most women like him more. >> You think it's a distraction? >> Me personally, no. I don't really care. I don't really I didn't care about the
03:13:21
Bailey (Drake)situation but I think it may have been it it may not have been him may not have been >> Did you dream about anything >> actually no not about this I dreamed of dreamt about a lot of other things that happened but
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Bailey (Drake)>> like what like did he >> what tell us the means >> okay this is all I have to say is if he was being honest about like wanting to change I don't think he's going to get convicted for that long but if he wasn't
03:13:47
Bailey (Drake)being honest I think he's going to face a lot of time. So, I guess we'll see what happens because yeah, I can't say too much. >> Did you speak to Diddy in your dreams?
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Bailey (Drake)>> Cricket go to bed again. >> I can't I don't know. >> I wouldn't want to go to sleep again. >> Let's just say you think >> it wasn't like bad. I think he generally wanted help. So, let's just say that. And hopefully he was being honest with that cuz if so, if he wanted help and
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Bailey (Drake)he's being honest, I think he'll get out sooner. >> Did he? >> Yeah. Like you mean like because >> cuz >> all the [ __ ] he was doing he wasn't like >> a lot. He wasn't in total control of what even he was doing. It was like some
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Aradaother stuff going on. >> Guys, Brian doesn't like >> some dark stuff that we don't need to talk about. >> Talk about something else, >> right? Cuz it's a little too >> I have a question. I have a question. >> Yes. >> What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband?
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Alex (TTI)>> Yes. >> Starting with you. >> I don't have a preference unfortunately. I feel like my bar is like very low. Uh like not in like a bad way. I don't I don't know. I dated someone like fully like on social security and like unemployed and like on disability and
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Alex (TTI)stuff >> like a husband though. Like would you marry? >> Yeah. No, like legitimately like Yeah. Like I would be open to that depending like it depends on circumstance. Like if you're not trying at all like Yeah. But
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Alex (TTI)like I don't know. My mom's like the primary bread winner in my family. Um >> so like is McDonald's worker okay? Dude, I feel like yo, if I really loved you
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Alex (TTI)and like McDonald's is like your [ __ ] then like who am I to judge? I don't know. I feel like everything I seem like really indifferent or like devil's advocate, but it's literally just because I'm like I don't know. Like at
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Alex (TTI)the end of the day, like I feel like I'm only here to like to to live and to like love other people, to like just experience life and to like be a good person. So, >> u be trying.
03:15:38
Brian AtlasUh, we're going to come back to that in just a moment. But, uh, what were we talking about? The Oh, the looks rating. >> You said the guy that you think is a 10 is the guy who murdered the healthcare
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Alex (TTI)CEO. >> Yo, no, that's not No, that's not what I said. I said I couldn't think of anyone. And I just said my type guy is like generally like feminine. >> The assassin come up. >> I don't know.
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Brian Atlas>> Segue. She's like, "Would you be with him?" >> Well, cuz I said like I said like Twinkie men and she said what I think of Luigi Man. >> It's like >> would any girl here uh like date date
03:16:19
Brian Atlashim knowing what he did? >> No. Yes. >> Show of hands. Show of hands. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. So, there's this uh phenomenon. It's a I
03:16:31
Brian Atlasthink it's a paraphilia called I can't believe I'm forgetting it. It's uh what is it? Chat, help me out. It's um the attraction to like
03:16:43
Brian Atlascriminality. Um what is it? I'm >> trying to remember. >> No, I it's on the tip of my tongue. I've said it before. >> Habristophilia. Thank you. So, this
03:16:53
Brian Atlasphenomenon is much more common. >> It's almost exclusive. Much more common in women.
03:17:01
Brian AtlasI believe this to be a sexual dysfunction. This is a dysfunction to be attracted to somebody who quite clearly assassinated somebody. This is
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Bailey (Drake)somebody you want to to date. Why would that be? >> If they did it for the right reason, >> when is it ever the right reason to assassinate somebody? >> The thing is like it's really subject. >> It wasn't was it self-defense, Bailey? >> I mean, personally, I would not
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Gatiphysically take matters into account. care what you would do, but you would date the guy who >> isn't that cuz women now or I feel like women in general want like the bad boy quote. >> Well, that's what he's talking about is
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Alex (TTI)like it's an actual like phenomenon, but I feel like that's just more related to like probably trauma. >> Yeah. >> Like just like people having >> dysfunctional things happen growing up and like reflect I feel I don't know. I
03:17:51
Gatifeel like everyone acting out is a reflection of like something going wrong >> like in general. >> I think so. I think it's trauma has a lot to do with like the type of guy you want to go for. >> Well, it can be, but I mean there could also be like a to some degree a
03:18:04
Brian Atlasbiological evolutionarily evolutionary explanation for why women are attracted to violent men or dangerous men. >> I mean, I can see like theoretically how that would be beneficial in like a hunt and gather like
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Alex (TTI)>> Well, but that would be that would be the evolutionary biological basis. Sure, this person's a monster, but if I'm aligned with him, but what protect me conceivably? >> What defines monster? Because we used to
03:18:30
Alex (TTI)like duel each other in like the 17. >> That would be consensual. >> That would be like a consensual thing, >> right? But like if one person nobody consents to being murdered,
03:18:39
Alex (TTI)>> I mean like yeah, that's what makes it murder. But I if someone like is like please like kill me and then you kill them like the law is still like well
03:18:50
Alex (TTI)that's still murder dude like you still got to go to jail. So I don't know because I think murder is like subjective like I that's like a really hot take but like legitimately like there is no like murder bad murder good because right realistically I mean a lot
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Alex (TTI)of people would say like well if you murder your rapist or if you murder your child abuser if like someone like abuse sexually abuse your child murdering them is like like justified. A lot of people agree with that. >> Not legally, it's not legally
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Alex (TTI)>> not legally justified, but a lot of people agree like morally justified, which is why I mean there's still a show of hands at the table when people are like or when you were like, "Would you date Luigi even after you did that?" People are like, "Yeah." Because there
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Alex (TTI)is no like murder is just bad or murder is just like not bad cuz it's >> contextually like >> I think my opinion on that is like you can't play God. You can't take someone else's life no matter what you think
03:19:39
Alex (TTI)your reasoning for that is. That's how my stance on it. But I think that everyone has different justifications and reasoning for like why they do things, whether or not it's valid or justified for you, >> right? But so who here thinks the
03:19:51
Brian Atlaskilling was justified that Luigi Manion did? I mean, Kylie, you said you would date him, so I assume you believe it's justified.
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Kylie (Gap Year)>> I'm not dating him because I'm attracted to criminals. I just date him because he's attractive. >> Yeah. the whole assassination thing wouldn't be >> well because um I didn't really get much
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Kylie (Gap Year)into it into that but I heard that the argument was that he was a CEO of United Healthcare and that they were taking money away from a lot of innocent people or something or like charging
03:20:25
Brian Atlas>> denying so well look there's no doubt and no dispute that health insurance companies are the bane of
03:20:35
Brian Atlas>> uh corporate greed right and It's despicable what they do, but there are mechanisms in place to, you know,
03:20:45
Brian Atlaschanging laws or that would be the appropriate way. For example, like what would then stop conservatives from just murdering a bunch of like people who
03:20:56
Brian Atlasadvocate for trans stuff? Like, whoa, these trans people, these trans advocates are harming children. We should murder them because of what we
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Alex (TTI)believe. Well, people do do that. >> Like genuinely, people I mean like >> like people do do things like that. I think that it's just like not really an argument you can make. Like one like two bads doesn't make it good. Like just cuz
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Alex (TTI)someone like you know what I mean? I feel like that's just always like not a good argument. Well, like if this person did something bad, what if I went and did this bad thing? >> But so that like >> then there's related to this. It's like
03:21:30
Brian Atlasthere's discussions of okay, well there shouldn't be billionaires. we should like murder billionaires, right? What's all of us here at this table by virtue
03:21:41
Brian Atlasof us living in the United States, >> maybe maybe you guys, some of you aren't quite there yet, but once you guys start a job, >> Yeah. >> you will all everybody here will be in
03:21:51
Brian Atlasthe global 1%. So, what is stopping the bottom 99% globally from saying, "We don't like what Americans have. We're coming and taking it and we're going to murder you." So we can have the things
03:22:04
Bailey (Drake)that you have. >> They might do it. >> Well, we're going to [ __ ] stop them. But what? Why can't they do that? >> Cuz people don't actually realize how
03:22:15
Bailey (Drake)[ __ ] up our government is. I feel like first of all, but also there's better ways to go about it. I'm not saying we should do that, but there's a movie about it that we won if we did that. >> But what I'm trying to say is >> we would win. >> But what I'm trying to say is is there's
03:22:28
Brian Atlasthis like this sort of distinct >> I think we should punish them instead, not kill Can you stop interrupting, lady? >> Sorry. >> There's this disdain for >> hyper wealthy people. And look, maybe perhaps some of that this dislike could
03:22:40
Brian Atlasbe there there could there could be issues with sort of the incoming the inequality that exists in America. However, uh this idea that we should like do away with billionaires and like
03:22:50
Brian Atlasessentially assassinate them uh is kind of ridiculous because then that opens all of us up in the United States to then being subject to the same sort of
03:23:01
Brian Atlastreatment by the bottom global 50%. If you live in America, you're in the top 1% of the world.
03:23:12
Alex (TTI)you make you make $50,000 a year, you're in the top 1% globally. >> But by like what definition? Like and like I understand what you're saying, but I mean legitimately by what definition in the sense of like I feel
03:23:23
Alex (TTI)like a lot of people would move outside of the US and be more comfortable like living third world and like not having as many things as we have here comparatively to living here with
03:23:36
Alex (TTI)certain aspects. Like for me, for example, if I could get better health care somewhere else, oh my god, I'd leave the US in a heartbeat because >> the United States has >> the No, it does not have the worst. The
03:23:47
Alex (TTI)United States has some of the best doctors in the world, >> which is cool if you can get into them, if you can see them if it doesn't take like a year to see a primary to be able to see like to get a referral to see a
03:24:00
Alex (TTI)specialist to be able to >> What you're describing happens in Canada >> where they have universal healthcare. >> Yeah. Well, I'm not necessarily like talking about Canada, but like I'm also saying I said is if there is somewhere else that can provide that for me, then
03:24:12
Brian AtlasI would leave instantly. >> Do you want to move to Cuba or something? I don't know. >> I mean, dude, I don't I like straight up like >> All right, here we're getting off topic off off of dating stuff. Um, here we
03:24:25
Brian Atlashave one sec. We got some chats coming through. Got some chat. I don't know. Y'all y'all women be dating criminals and murderers and [ __ ] The [ __ ] No, there is. >> I don't care how hot
03:24:37
Brian Atlas>> I'll tell you this, and look, maybe some men will disagree with me. If a girl has murdered somebody, I'm not talking self-defense. If a woman has murdered somebody, I don't care if she's the most
03:24:49
Brian Atlasbeautiful woman in the world, I don't care how hot she is, red flag. Deal breaker. Deal breaker. Uh-uh. Never would ever consider dating
03:25:01
Gatisomebody like that. >> Yep. Y'all women, I don't know. You get the tingles and and be >> No, I get it. I get it. I get it. The tingles. It's crazy. >> Get the tingles.
03:25:14
Gati>> I think like when I was younger, I used to like get turned on by a man that was like >> cuz I thought that was masculine, you know? >> I thought that was like what it meant to be masculine. But then as you get older,
03:25:26
Gatiyou start to realize, no, that was actually not okay of them to like touch them, touch me a certain way or whatever. >> Yeah. But
03:25:33
Brian Atlas>> it's so it's so masculine to have a wife and two children and then go away to prison for 20 years. >> No, that's >> that's so masculine
03:25:46
Erica (Oregon)>> and then your children grow up without a father. It's like the most masculine thing ever. >> Food for thought. >> Yeah, it's not. I read something I was I
03:25:59
Aradathink it was earlier today I read it and it it said something along the lines of maybe women are going after the these toxic relationships because that's all they know is toxic relationships and that's the only form of consistency that
03:26:10
Aradathey think they'll find. And I think that that's a way to look at it. But I think that there's so many things that contribute to you having the your current perception and then your general
03:26:21
Gatilack of or your uh sense of awareness. Yeah, I think sense of awareness is a big one, too, because like when you go through a traumatic experience with a specific partner, I think that's where
03:26:34
Gatiyou like either learn from it and you want to like move on and do something different or stay the same. Also, why is it like you hear all these women complaining about dating a guy who's
03:26:47
Brian Atlasabusive, but simultaneously you're like, "Yeah, I would date this criminal." So, it's like, on one hand, he was he abused me. On the other hand, there were
03:26:58
Brian Atlasall these red flags that you were conveniently ignoring because he was exciting to you or he was attractive or whatever it is. Like I don't think
03:27:09
Brian Atlasanybody should be abused, but if you like if you intentionally go after like a walking red flag,
03:27:21
Alex (TTI)>> should you be surprised when you're abu like you end up being abused? >> To the same token, I feel like men aren't generally like walking up to you being like, "Hey, like I'm planning on being on you when we start dating in 3
03:27:34
Alex (TTI)months." cuz I feel like that's like the situation that I've unfortunately ended up in before where I'm like it's all good. Like it's flowers, it's you're giving me rides everywhere, you're paying for my gas money, you're taking me out on dates every week. And we
03:27:45
Alex (TTI)finally commit and all of a sudden it's just like and like not consistent. And then when I'm like, "Hey, this doesn't feel consistent." They're like, "What are you talking about? I did that like two weeks ago." And then it becomes like
03:27:57
Alex (TTI)a back and forth of like, "But I did that even though they're not doing it." And I don't know, it becomes like a manipulation thing where they I feel like they get you into the relationship and then like Yeah. Like when it's like bad. I mean, I'm like, well, I mean,
03:28:10
Alex (TTI)that's like bad and I like should probably leave. And then I feel like when you're getting ready to leave, they like rope you back in. That's kind of the cycle of abuse. >> Uh, going back to the rating 10 out of
03:28:22
Brian Atlas10 thing. Uh, I'm waiting for the the girl to rejoin us. Damn, bro. Felicity, you get up too
03:28:30
Brian Atlasmuch. What the [ __ ] bro? Um, she's she's gone like half the podcast. Um, I'll wait until she's back. Here we have
03:28:40
Brian Atlasa chat coming in from Whoops. One sec. Uh, we have George Paste T. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Paste T coming in
03:28:51
SPEAKER_00here. Thank you, man. Pasty George donated $200 on the show Bear Grills Survival Island. Boys versus girls. The men won while the
03:29:03
SPEAKER_00girls almost died. Both teams had survival training. It was a real test of wilderness survival.
03:29:12
Erica (Oregon)>> Yep. That's what men should be doing. >> Was that the same show where they like they gave them the pig and then they didn't kill the pig because it was cute? probably. >> I don't know. >> Sounds like it. I think that's the same
03:29:25
Brian Atlasone. >> All right, here. While we wait for her to come back, I'm going to just get into some of the pre-show notes. Uh, let's do
03:29:34
Brian AtlasOkay, Kylie. Kylie, you said your ex dated your best friend right after you guys broke up. >> Um, yeah. So, it was >> This is Is this the like
03:29:46
Kylie (Gap Year)>> No, not the recent one. >> A previous ex that you didn't talk about? >> No. Yeah. >> Okay. Wait. No. Yeah. >> Sorry, I messed up. Um, yeah. The
03:29:56
Brian Atlasprevious SI ex I didn't talk about. >> Okay. Uh, and your best friend is a man. >> My Yeah, my best friend's a gay man. >> A a gay man. So, you were you dated a guy?
03:30:08
Brian Atlas>> Mhm. >> And then right after you broke up, he dated your best friend. So, you have Shouldn't you have beef >> with
03:30:18
Kylie (Gap Year)>> Here's the here's the backstory. Um, so on, you know, the topic of my type is very twink and feminine men. Um, I don't really have a preference for men or women. Um, but specifically for men, I
03:30:30
Kylie (Gap Year)do like them to be a little bit more feminine to the point that they are they turn out to be gay, which is completely fine. And I knew before me and him talked.
03:30:40
Brian Atlas>> Oh, wait. How many times have >> Which is Have you encountered this the gay man thing? Yeah. >> Like you've dated multiple gay men basically.
03:30:52
Kylie (Gap Year)>> Um, >> no, not not like strictly gay men, you know, bisexual men most of the time or very just feminine straight men. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Yeah. Um, I don't know. I just like it when men are just in touch with their
03:31:06
Brian Atlasfeminine side. >> Feminine side. >> Yeah. And >> can I I'm going to put a demonstration. I'm going to do demo demo. You tell me if this is kind of the guy you go for.
03:31:18
Brian AtlasOh my god, Kylie, you are just so adored. Oh my gosh. Is that kind of Are you turned on? >> Um, no. Cuz that just sounds like you're a really feminine feminine like gay man.
03:31:30
Kylie (Gap Year)>> Gay man. >> Yeah. Like, you know, kind of longerish hair, but like I feel like >> didn't do it for me. >> It's just like a certain type like I don't know. >> So on the border of you're not sure if
03:31:42
Brian Atlasthey're gay. That just really >> But they kind of >> does it for you. >> I mean, they kind of look like it. >> They kind of look gay, too. >> It's like, >> do they have the limp wrist? >> You know what I mean? That's the
03:31:52
Alex (TTI)attractive part is like they look like Oh god, this sounds so bad. They look >> Oh, you guys have a lot in common then. >> They look gay. >> You guys both like >> they look like like like to the point where it's like if you walked by them like like
03:32:07
Alex (TTI)>> wait >> like they get like period like when they're walking by like >> quiet. are you on birth control? >> Yes. >> Are you on birth control? >> No. >> Ever been on birth control? >> No. >> H Okay.
03:32:19
Brian Atlas>> Hello. >> Never mind. >> My question would you guys What is that? >> Well, there's this theory that um so when women go on birth control, it
03:32:31
Alex (TTI)psychologically changes the type of guy you're attracted to. >> Oh, really? I have always been attracted to that type of guy. My understanding, my understanding is what it can do is
03:32:42
Brian Atlaswhen women are on hormonal birth control, they'll typically be attracted to more um feminine men. When they're not on birth control, they're attracted to more masculine men.
03:32:54
Brian Atlas>> No, not true. >> I mean, the thing is, >> it's not it's not like a uh what's the term? It's not a uh monolith here. I'm not saying it's
03:33:05
Brian Atlasalways the case. >> Oh.
03:33:11
Bailey (Drake)Okay, back to my question. Would you guys date a guy that like presents himself pretty masculine but is a little bit feminine but then sexually like dresses feminine? >> Yeah.
03:33:23
Bailey (Drake)>> I have some I might have someone for you guys. I'm so lost one more time. Okay. So, he So, he's bisex Well, actually, he he didn't even say he's bisexual. He said he only likes women, but he'll like dress up sexually like as a woman. But
03:33:36
Bailey (Drake)he's like, are you talking like >> like wig on? Not wig. Yeah, like skirts. Would you be into that? >> Not like a full on not a full on crossdresser. Just like sexually just wearing
03:33:48
Brian Atlas>> We got You're You're derailing here. We're going back. >> I was like, would they would they would they date someone like that? >> We're moving on. So, tell us the story of your how your ex >> after you guys broke up, >> he started dating your best friend who's gay.
03:34:02
Kylie (Gap Year)>> Yeah. U sorry back. >> Is that the guy on your Instagram? the you know the guy isn't there a guy in your Instagram? >> If there is, it's probably deleted and it was probably my ex, but not the one
03:34:12
Kylie (Gap Year)that dated my best friend. Oh. Oh, that's my best friend. The one on the one on my Instagram. That's my best friend >> that's gay. >> Yeah, >> that your ex dated that.
03:34:25
Kylie (Gap Year)>> Yeah. >> We It's a joke between us that um it's kind of like our lore that we have together. So, >> wow. Um, >> you weren't upset at either of you? >> No. No. Cuz um, we only were talking for
03:34:37
Kylie (Gap Year)like 2 months and then dated for 1 month and then I broke up with him because um, from the start and this was like maybe a year or two ago. >> I shouldn't have like I shouldn't have let him on. Um, I felt super terrible
03:34:51
Kylie (Gap Year)about that. That was in like when I was just hooking up with people and didn't I didn't catch any feelings. M >> um and he um felt different and he wanted a date and so I agreed and then I didn't want
03:35:03
Kylie (Gap Year)it anymore and so I broke up with him and then I after that I called my best friend telling him you can go for him now because before we started talking or
03:35:12
Kylie (Gap Year)ever dating um him and or my ex and my best friend used to talk but they didn't last long and then it was this is how me and my best friend became best friends.
03:35:24
Kylie (Gap Year)It was a competition of who would get him first. And then uh I eventually started dating him. Didn't like it. Broke up with him. And the whole time we were together, I would always involve my best friend with us. Um like if I don't
03:35:36
Kylie (Gap Year)I don't know why. And then I literally after we broke up, I told my best friend, "You can go for him now. I don't care." And then uh he did keep it a secret for me that they were talking, but that's only because um our ex didn't want me to know, which is completely
03:35:49
Kylie (Gap Year)understandable for me. >> Have you ever pegged a guy? No. >> Oh, cuz you I don't know. You said you like feminine guys. So, >> no. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I like feminine guys. Um, you know, I dated one
03:36:02
Brian Atlasmasculine guy. I didn't like like it. And that was the masculine guy. The gay. >> Okay. You also want in your notes here, uh, you said the rules of dating that you you wanted to maybe bring up olive theory. What's that?
03:36:15
Kylie (Gap Year)>> From what I've heard is that if you don't like a certain thing, the other person will love it. It's basically food. If you don't like tomatoes, the other person loves tomatoes and vice versa. >> Oh, so one person likes olives, the other doesn't.
03:36:27
Brian Atlas>> It's just like Okay. >> I The olive theory is just you don't like something, they love something. That's >> I feel like that's with >> every um the three-month rule. What's that?
03:36:36
Kylie (Gap Year)>> Um I think I think the three-month rule is real, but like you don't have to base it off someone how like how much you like them based on like the month you're talking. >> What is it? Um, it's basically you're
03:36:48
Kylie (Gap Year)talking to someone for 3 months and then you'll know if you want to date them or not. >> Oh, okay. So, three months is the >> like [ __ ] or get off the pot or what? >> Yeah, basically.
03:37:00
Kylie (Gap Year)>> So, it takes three months of just >> I mean, it doesn't have to take 3 months if you know, you know. You know, if you really like someone, you just stay with them. >> 3 months in is when you think people get a sense of if they want something more.
03:37:13
Kylie (Gap Year)>> It's around 3 months from what I've experienced and what from my friends experience. Um, but I don't think people should base 3 months um just to know if they want to be with them. >> Question. How long have you had the tongue piercing? >> A week.
03:37:26
Brian Atlas>> Just one week. >> That's why I I didn't come next week last week. Yeah. >> Nice. >> That's why I didn't come last week because I couldn't talk. >> Oh, I didn't. >> Oh, yeah. We had you on schedule for
03:37:38
Kylie (Gap Year)last week. She like tongue piercing. Um and then your tattoo. What's your tattoo on your arm? >> That's um The Sound of Music. >> Oh. Um, it's my mom's favorite movie and it's mine. And then I have a bunch more.
03:37:50
Kylie (Gap Year)>> Um, the one that says Bliss. That's kind of just for me. I have a pomegranate for my grandpa. My grandma's name in Japanese. And then my um like two people dancing for my sister. >> Gotcha. And is your mom the Japanese one? >> Yeah. >> Dad. Is dad in the picture?
03:38:04
Kylie (Gap Year)>> No. >> Parents ever married? >> Yes, but divorced when I was like two. >> Two. Not in the picture? >> Nope. Not for like 10 years actually.
03:38:14
Kylie (Gap Year)No. That's a lie. Um, a week, no, a day before I moved here, my grandpa who or my mom's dad, my dad lives with my mom's parents because otherwise if he
03:38:26
Kylie (Gap Year)didn't um he would be homeless and his all of his family's in Connecticut. So the day before >> Wait, all his family's what? >> His whole family is in Connecticut. >> And my dad is uh 69 years old and he has
03:38:38
Kylie (Gap Year)a bunch of issues where he can't properly walk or talk or have any abilities to just live a normal life. How old's your mom? >> 52. >> Mom's 52. >> Yeah. >> Dad's 69. >> So your dad got your mom pregnant with
03:38:52
Kylie (Gap Year)you >> in her late 30s >> and he was 50ish. >> Yeah. Around that time. >> Good for him, I guess. Does your mom have any other kids?
03:39:02
Kylie (Gap Year)>> Yeah. Um I have one sister. I also have three step siblings and um like my half brother who's like 30 maybe 40 years old by now, but I never met him. >> Oh. Does she have with your dad? Does she have other kids?
03:39:14
Kylie (Gap Year)>> No. >> Okay, I see. So, your your mom has kids from two people? >> No, I It's just my dad and it's like me
03:39:26
Brian Atlasand my sister. Like fully related. >> Wait, hold on. You're You're fully related to your sister? >> Yeah. Same mom, same dad. >> Oh, so okay. She's younger or older?
03:39:39
Brian Atlas>> Younger. >> Okay, I see. Okay. So, they had two kids. Mhm. >> Does she have other kids? >> No, she doesn't. It's just me and her. >> But she remar like she remarried a guy and that guy had kids.
03:39:51
Kylie (Gap Year)>> Yeah, he had three kids. Um but they divorced. >> What is a February theory? What's that? >> February theory. Um I low key forgot about the February
03:40:04
Brian Atlastheory. >> Does anybody know what that is? >> Valentine's Day. Maybe that's I feel like it has to do something with that. I completely forgot what it was though. I was Yeah. You also wrote, "Modern dating has been ruined by social media. Love has no
03:40:16
Kylie (Gap Year)pattern or rules. When you love someone or something, you just know it." >> Yeah, it's basically it. Like, >> um, before social media, I looked up to how my mom and stepdad acted. And I thought that was real love. Like, they
03:40:29
Kylie (Gap Year)had a few disagreements, but it's not like they never yelled at each other. >> Um, they talked everything out, and even if they disagreed on something, it's just like you agree to disagree, and that's fine. Um, and they always did
03:40:41
Kylie (Gap Year)everything for each other. It's not like, oh, I want this and I'm not going to give you anything in return. Um, and I just I think >> why not just love whoever you want to love without, >> you know, >> but social media ruined it.
03:40:54
SPEAKER_00>> Yeah, social media with all like the love theories and rules and stuff like that. >> Pasty, thank you. >> George donated $200. Canada had excellent fast health care
03:41:06
SPEAKER_00until the Canadian doctor exodus to the US in the 1990s. Now the quality and wait times to see a doctor in Canada sucks due to cuts in social spending.
03:41:18
Brian Atlas>> Thank you for uh adding that pasty. Appreciate Oh, there was a bunch of doctors from Canada that moved to the US in the '90s. We welcome your doctors, your Canadian
03:41:30
Brian Atlasdoctors. Thank you, Pasty. We have Techno Trooper here. He writes, "With just 22,000 jobs added, unemployment at 4.3% and grads facing 6% joblessness, is
03:41:41
Brian Atlasdating for financial security realistic when even educated workers lack stability?" Anybody want to weigh in on this?
03:41:53
Erica (Oregon)>> You don't.
03:41:58
Brian Atlas>> Okay. I I guess I would just say it's very hard to have feminism and then also have women wanting men to be providers.
03:42:09
Brian Atlas>> Like the two look, it's it's possible, but the two kind of butt heads a little bit. So, I'm not saying that women shouldn't have the option or the choice to work, which by the way, women have
03:42:20
Brian Atlasalways been able to work. It's just historically most industries were rather there wasn't like a 10020 years ago there weren't airond conditioned
03:42:29
Brian Atlascomfortable office jobs for women. Most work that was available to anyone but to men it was like physical labor and men
03:42:39
Brian Atlasare stronger than women. Men are better suited at physical labor. And then back then women's did work. Women did work too. It's total nonsense
03:42:49
Brian Atlasthat they were it was illegal for women to work. There's just certain realistic uh practical reasons why many didn't or couldn't. And then if we're talking
03:43:01
Brian Atlasabout like how people used to live in more, you know, homesteading, farmsteading, this sort of thing, women definitely worked. Uh not always for a paycheck though, was
03:43:11
Brian Atlaskind of different. Um but I guess how do we reconcile? I want a man to provide, but also we should be
03:43:20
Brian Atlaspaid 5050. I think these two things are not particularly compatible. Oh my god, bro. This panel. All right,
03:43:31
Brian Atlasgood talk, guys. Well done. Appreciate Appreciate the incisive uh contribution. Um >> you're welcome, Brian. >> Let's see here. Uh going Okay, wait. I
03:43:44
Brian Atlasneed to wait. God damn. I got to wait until she's back now. Uh we're going to go to >> uh No, hold on
03:43:56
Brian Atlashere. We'll go to Alex here. Alex, you said one thing you'd like to discuss, how social media is red pilling the thick >> out of boys and girls younger and younger and the greater issue in this area being that girls feel a pressure to
03:44:09
Brian Atlasengage in sexual promiscuity earlier than is necessary. plus and what men boys having this expectation on girls does to the dating pool as an older teen young adult. >> It's a rambling sentence
03:44:19
Brian Atlas>> a little bit. Uh well actually it could be interesting going around the table uh talking about sexual promiscuity and like young when did everyone lose their virginity? >> Um
03:44:32
Chloe (Mercedes)>> how old were you? I think it was 15. >> 15. >> 22 and a half. Like 23. >> 15. >> 15. >> Like 16. >> 16. >> That's personal. Oh, sorry. That's personal.
03:44:47
Brian Atlas>> Me next. >> It's personal. Okay. >> 20. >> 20. >> 12.
03:44:57
Erica (Oregon)>> Like like you had a boyfriend or >> Yeah. >> Oh, okay. I mean, >> your mind went to the wrong place, didn't it? >> I feel like that's a very fair place for it to go. >> That's kind of I mean,
03:45:10
Brian Atlas>> same. I thought the same thing. I'm sorry. Just to clarify, that's not what I meant. >> Still not good. Still not good, but like >> not good. >> Better than maybe what my mind jumped to. Uh 12. Okay.
03:45:26
Brian Atlas>> Good times. Uh and then we're waiting on uh Bailey there. Okay. Oh boy, that's going to be an interesting one. Um, but what was the thing about you wanted the red pill thing? >> It It was like I was seriously rambling
03:45:39
Alex (TTI)yesterday. Um, I thought about that after I sent it and I was like I don't know if that's something that I like will even have the time to divulge properly, but it's more so um
03:45:50
Alex (TTI)at least from my perspective um especially going through like the troubled teen industry. I mean, you have like an age range of girls in there, like 13 to, you know, 18, give or take.
03:46:03
Alex (TTI)Um, so a lot of people that I'm still mutuals with, uh, are like younger girls, um, like, you know, they're like
03:46:11
Alex (TTI)16, 17. They're my like, um, past peers for my program. Um, so it's like an older sister type relationship. But my point being like I observe right
03:46:22
Alex (TTI)these like high school age girls and I think that coupled with the lack of like what in my opinion is like proper sex education in America and also at least
03:46:34
Alex (TTI)in California the ability to unenroll your children in sex education altogether um creates a problem in general for like girls and their perception of like consent and what
03:46:46
Alex (TTI)appropriate behavior is and all of these things. But I think more specifically the way that at least I've noticed the algorithm pushing like Only Fans content and stuff like that is just really
03:46:58
Alex (TTI)heavy. And so it doesn't mean that necessarily that's like the majority of the content out there. But whatever like Only Fans and like type content there is out there, I feel like is being pushed to social media very heavily, which is
03:47:10
Alex (TTI)cool when you're old enough to, you know, perceive that content accurately and view that content in a safe way. And I feel like a lot of parents, I mean, don't really monitor their kids on
03:47:21
Alex (TTI)social media very well. But I think my issue is that these younger girls are being shown that I feel like not that that's what's
03:47:34
Alex (TTI)normal. I don't want to word it like that, but that's what's maybe expected of them is to put yourself out there more, to, you know, dress a little bit skimpier, to be perceived a certain way, which is completely fine if you know
03:47:45
Alex (TTI)what that means. If you're comfortable and confident in yourself and you feel comfortable wearing that clothing, you go do that. But I feel like me growing up, I wasn't comfortable or confident doing that, but I thought that that was
03:47:57
Alex (TTI)the expectation of me. And I feel like my bigger issue is that like these younger and younger teenage boys are thinking that this is like the norm and that it's like completely okay to expect certain things from women and that
03:48:10
Brian Atlasthat's affecting younger and younger generations of girls. I don't really know how to like condense that, but I think that that's just affecting Sorry. >> I don't know if there's a Dave Chappelle. It's either Chris Rock or Dave Chappelle sort of. I think I don't
03:48:22
Alex (TTI)know which one has a joke on this. >> You're not a prostitute, but you're wearing a prostitute's uniform. >> So, I mean, I guess that's not necessarily what I'm saying. I'm saying
03:48:32
Alex (TTI)more so like I'm I'm 15. I'm starting to date me and those 15-year-old boys that go to school
03:48:43
Alex (TTI)with me. We're on So, we're all on Instagram. We're all getting pushed the same like content. >> Mhm. >> And I feel like
03:48:54
Alex (TTI)perception wise because it's not being backed with like sexual education that's affecting how young boys also view young girls and also how young girls view themselves. So, my main thing being that
03:49:07
Alex (TTI)I think because there's like this sexual content being wrongfully pushed to minors who should not be seeing it to begin with, they're getting this content with no, like I said, sexual education backing that and like what is consent
03:49:19
Alex (TTI)and what is this and what is that and like everyone has like different things going on. Rambling. Um, but because it's not backed with that education, I feel like it is becoming problematic to
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Alex (TTI)where, sorry, I'm like really rambling. Like young boys are like expecting like I don't know like girls at like 15 16 to like be okay having sex, be okay like giving head, be okay engaging in like
03:49:43
Alex (TTI)sexual activity, expecting them to you know like show up like wearing like thong instead of like normal underwear. Like there are certain little things that I mean I experienced and I know like my friends experience being on like
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Alex (TTI)the younger end of people in this group, but also I'm having like my 17 and like you know 16-year-old friends from like my program come to me and be like this is a new issue and hearing more and more
03:50:04
Alex (TTI)girls talk on social media like 12, 13, 14, like these boys that I go to school with expect this of me because this is what they're seeing and like I don't know how to like hold boundaries properly and I also feel like it's just
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Alex (TTI)like messing it up for everyone because it's really voiding people of like having genuine connections and like learning about things like between people deeper than sex cuz I feel like a lot of high school relationships I saw
03:50:28
Alex (TTI)uh it was like you know these kids and it was like all about like sex and like them being intimate and not them like being friends or like going on dates and I feel like it's just voiding people of like yeah genuine connection and like
03:50:41
Alex (TTI)not in the way that only fans is bad or that prostitution or like anything like sex work related is inherently bad as far as like on the woman's end of things, but it's more so that the content is being pushed to people it
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Alex (TTI)shouldn't be being pushed to, and it's not having proper sexual education backing it. It's not having proper education or like guidelines around it, and it's affecting how people perceive, sorry, how people perceive and like view things. But it's affecting younger
03:51:05
Brian Atlasgenerations than it really should >> is my thing. Like kids are dealing with >> social media, so social media bad. But I mean, even going back into the 80s,
03:51:13
Brian Atlasthere's always been media that was consumed by high schoolers that depicted sex, >> but like me having to walk into Times at Ridgemont High or American Pie or all
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Alex (TTI)these >> walk into a movie theater, like record that [ __ ] on your DVR, you know what I mean? Like genuinely, you had to like put a little more effort in than just opening up your Instagram. >> Well, yeah. Obviously, >> because you can get on that [ __ ] on like
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Alex (TTI)a vape now. Like, you know what I mean? like like you could literally go on like a social being on a vape now. >> Okay. So, should we ban social media for people under 18? >> Well, and so there that's not my that's not what I'm saying. >> Okay. So, what's the solution? >> My I mean like proper education, right?
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Alex (TTI)But like being able to like talk about things like that cuz I think that's part of it is like where you start like delving into that. I feel like a lot of people hear only fans bad like you're against sex work and it's like no that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that there needs to be more regulation about
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Alex (TTI)how this content is being pushed to minors because it's affecting everybody. Like kids should not be like dealing with adult issues, especially when it comes to like sex and intimacy. >> Yeah. I mean, I'm fine with that.
03:52:14
Brian AtlasHonestly, at least my perspective, if I was raising uh well, when I'm going to be raising kids, >> they're not getting a smartphone. They're not getting internet. They're not they're not getting access to it
03:52:25
Brian Atlasuntil I I don't even want my kid to have any social media. Yeah. I mean, who knows how things are going to look in 10, 15, 20 years, whatever, till they're like
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Alex (TTI)18. They're not I'm not laying my my daughter or my son on TikTok. >> Mhm. >> That's [ __ ] brain rot. >> I think that that's where you also get into like it's a rock in a hard place because
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Alex (TTI)>> I mean like realistically, right? >> Like that's the other thing is like you know like kids have phones at school. Like I don't know if you're doing public school or like whatever. I'll probably private. >> But that's the other thing I feel like is it creates the curiosity whereas I
03:53:00
Alex (TTI)feel like the better way to go about it would be like transparency like hey like we can start talking about you going on social media like it starts like a couple hours like I don't know like when I was a kid it was like the kitchen computer like things like that for like
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Alex (TTI)games but um >> cuz I feel like that's also what I'm talking about is not necessarily I mean obviously if you're doing OAF your whole marketing is online so you can't just expect people to not do that. It's more so like I said like the regulation and
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Brian Atlaslike >> education behind it. >> Nick, do we have the AI stuff? Okay. You said there's also probably a handful of things that we disagree on. What are some of the things? You've seen the show. I I'm assuming >> I'm really bad off the top of my head.
03:53:39
Brian Atlas>> Anything you disagree on? Anything you disagree on? >> Like off the top of my head, I mean like I I really like I don't know like name something. I've probably have an opinion on it. >> Oh, we didn't really finish up on the
03:53:51
Brian Atlaslike 1 to 10 thing. So, we'll go back to that. Um, all right. Uh, once she's back, we'll get going on it. Um,
03:54:03
Brian Atlasyou I guess going back to your thing then, um, with the like having all the hund almost 100 men or whatever that you had seeking arrangements with you, they were paying you thousands or tens of thousands of dollars.
03:54:16
Brian Atlas>> I don't know. I feel like women have life on easy mode. >> Mhm. like you're 25 when you start doing this you were like 22 23 whatever
03:54:27
Brian Atlasmen have paid you six figures just for existing I don't know that's most men don't have this fall back of well [ __ ]
03:54:38
Brian Atlas>> I could just sling some dick to some women for money I don't know y'all have that [ __ ] you got life on easy mode >> you always got that fall That's true. >> I agree.
03:54:51
Chloe (Mercedes)>> Some people they just don't want to compromise. For example, like you say, you have standards for your future girlfriend or wife and you have this and that for that. But people whoever
03:55:02
Chloe (Mercedes)fitting that criteria you give, probably not your type. If you want to compromise for your requirements or you want to go to the girl you really like or you don't really have a type which is you know
03:55:14
Chloe (Mercedes)some people they just go after um more fun life and some people they don't they don't you know like playing a little bit playing life.
03:55:27
Chloe (Mercedes)>> Uh okay. Um, >> oh, what were we saying? Oh, yeah. And also from work, I'm making currently making about $15,000 per month myself. So, if I can make that
03:55:40
Chloe (Mercedes)much and I just got started, >> why can't I expect the guy, whoever I'm seeing to make more than that or be better than me or to mentor me? >> I mean, that that's fine, but I mean,
03:55:52
Chloe (Mercedes)you do acknowledge that you essentially what you you've been doing is prostitution. Oh, well that's just a word. You cannot say it's negative or it's positive.
03:56:03
Brian Atlas>> It's definitely negative. >> Oh, it is pro. >> Do your parents know? Do your mom do she know? My mom knows you. Well, she knows that you get money, right? But like, do you tell her by the way like I [ __ ]
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Chloe (Mercedes)75year-old men for money? >> She doesn't know exact number, but almost every time I will tell her like I would know. >> She knows that you sleep with the men. >> Yes. And she
03:56:27
Chloe (Mercedes)>> Oh, by the way, I grew up from Christian family. I'm Christian. >> Hold on. What? >> My >> Excuse me. >> My mom is like really really religious.
03:56:40
Chloe (Mercedes)But that also make her forgiving, you know. She is very understanding and forgiving. >> Wait, what about your dad? Your dad and mom are together? >> Yes. But with your dad, >> is your dad Christian?
03:56:51
Chloe (Mercedes)He's No, he wouldn't say so. >> But your dad doesn't know about what you do. >> Not yet. Maybe after this show. Who knows?
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