BEAVO SIMP! COPS CALLED! Strumpet REFUSES To Leave?! TRESPASSED AND KICKED OUT?! | Dating Talk #163

Date: 2024-05-22

Duration: 7h 09m

Guests

Brian Atlas

SSaia Bella (DT163)>

BBrandon Beus (DT163)>

MMonae (DT163)>

GGraci Monata (DT163)>

CCinderella (DT163)>

JJelle (DT163)>

MMichaela (DT163)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Brandon 'Bivo' Beus(guest)

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Alex(guest)

SPEAKER_03Saia Bella(guest)

SPEAKER_04Cindy Zang(guest)

SPEAKER_05Cinderella(guest)

SPEAKER_06Monae(guest)

SPEAKER_09Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_11Graci Monata(guest)

SPEAKER_12Jelle(guest)

SPEAKER_14Michaela(guest)

Key Moments

IntroGuest introductions begin. Cindy Zang (returning) introduces herself first, followed by Saia Bella, Brandon/Bivo (open relationship couple from Manchester), Monae, Graci, Alex, Cinderella, Jelle, and Michaela.

“hi guys my name is Cindy Zang I am 24 years old I live in Los Angeles and I am a only fans model”

OtherBrandon 'Bivo' Beus introduces himself and explains open relationship dynamic: both partners, always together, all for content, partners are pre-tested. Defines himself as atheist ('God is money'). Previously only monogamous.

“beus known as bivo um I do Tik Tok I'm from Manchester and I'm hlag”

Key MomentAndrew Wilson introduces himself as host of The Crucible debate channel. Joins remotely after being late due to family emergency.

“my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible fastest growing debate channel on the internet I'm a political saturnist”

ControversyAndrew Wilson debates Cindy Zang on her claim that God wants her to do OnlyFans and Satan would want her to stop. Asks if God told her to do gang bangs. Cindy says she would sell her soul to the devil for $12M/year. Andrew challenges the logical consistency of her Christian identity.

“does God want you to stick a dick in your mouth is that what God wants you to do”

ControversyAndrew Wilson argues all sex work (stripping, OnlyFans) constitutes prostitution by definition — selling sexual favors for money. Panel extensively debates this. Saia argues intent distinguishes strippers from prostitutes.

“I just was curious how it would not be prostitution if a guy paid you money to grind on his penis in order to make it hard”

OtherSelf-rating round begins. Brian asks panel to rate their looks 1-10 (can't pick 7). Cindy: 10+. Saia: 10+. Alex: 10. Cinderella: 7-8. Michaela: 10.

“Cindy what do you rate your looks on a scale of 1 to 10 go ahead I'm 10 and above period”

OtherBrian gives his ratings: Cindy=6, Saia=5, Bivo=10, Monae=6.5. Two additional lower ratings (~4 and ~5) given to other guests (unclear assignment). Bivo called 'the only 10 at the table' by Brian.

“so Cindy I give you uh give you a six uh sopia give you five BVO 10 nothing”

ControversyCindy Zang disrupts show by grabbing and spinning propeller hat, then bumping camera equipment. Brian formally trespasses her at ~3:57:26. Cindy refuses to leave for several minutes. Andrew and Bivo both tell her to go. Brian threatens to forcibly remove her. Eventually she leaves. Show title references this as 'Strumpet REFUSES To Leave / TRESPASSED AND KICKED OUT'.

“your permission to be here has been revoked kindly get up and leave”

QuoteBrian formally trespasses Cindy Zang: 'Your permission to be here has been revoked.'

“look now I'm trespassing you your permission to be here has been revoked”

Key MomentBrian reveals he has been watching Orthodox Christianity YouTube videos and finds the history/lore fascinating. Andrew Wilson says his viewers are in tears. Andrew invites Brian to attend one liturgy with Rachel Wilson next visit.

“if I ever become religious I think I I would become Orthodox”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship statuses

Guests introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Cindy Zang returns. Saia Bella and Brandon Bivo arrive from Manchester in open relationship. Bivo explains open relationship dynamic (both partners, together only, for content). Michaela reveals she is moving to Alabama to pay off student loans.

Open relationship / modern dating dynamics

Brian probes Bivo and Saia's open relationship: logistics, jealousy, STI testing. Bivo says all partners are pre-planned, tested, and for content. Discussion of monogamy vs open relationships and motivations.

Cindy Zang: Christian OnlyFans creator debate

Extended discussion with Cindy on reconciling Christian identity with OnlyFans. Cindy argues God wants her to do it; Satan would want her to stop. Cross necklace / fake tattoo backstory. Brian notes Cindy's Instagram bio says 'God first' above OnlyFans link. Panel challenges Cindy on justification logic.

Worst thing said during sex / weird dating stories

Round-table: worst thing said to you during sex or on a date. Saia was called 'Abby' (another woman's name). Bivo was called 'Bivo' by a fan. Graci had guy who got insecure when she laughed during sex. Alex told story of 6'6" date who ate shrimp messily and tried to kiss her after. Brian shared story of girl who wanted cat role play. Graci shared story about girl who wanted to be punched in the face.

Body count round

Michaela asks panel for body counts. Bivo: below 20. Saia: less than 30 / double digits. Cinderella: declined. Alex confirmed virgin (0). Others declined or minimal sharing.

Andrew Wilson joins: OnlyFans, Christianity, and prostitution definitions

Andrew Wilson calls in remotely. Debates Cindy Zang's Christian/OnlyFans logic. Asks if God told her to do gang bangs. Challenges definition of prostitution — argues all sex work (stripping, OnlyFans) = prostitution by intent. Panel debates this distinction at length. Sophia (Saia) argues misogynistic men target OnlyFans women.

Self-rating round and Brian's ratings

Brian asks each guest to rate their own looks 1-10 (can't pick 7). Cindy: 10+. Saia: 10+. Alex: 10. Cinderella: 7-8. Michaela: 10 (husband says so). Monae: 5. Andrew (phone): 4. Brian then gives his ratings: Cindy=6, Saia=5, Bivo=10, Monae=6.5, and lower ratings for others (4 and 5 mentioned). Discussion on inflated female self-assessments.

Dating marketplace and female overestimation of league

Brian argues many women overestimate their position in the dating marketplace. Explains front-end vs back-end rejection: men get instant rejection if out of league; women get used for sex and then ghosted. Discusses why women often chase top 10% men. Men are salesmen, women are marketers analogy. Social media as women staying on the market even in relationships. Panel debates.

Cindy Zang trespassed and removed from show

Cindy disrupts show: refuses to sit down, grabs propeller hat, spins it, bumps camera equipment while trying to return it. Brian gives her the hat as a last chance to redeem herself; she escalates instead. Brian formally trespasses her at ~3:57:26. Cindy refuses to leave for several minutes, arguing she wasn't trolling. Andrew Wilson and Bivo also tell her to leave. Cindy eventually escorted out.

Body count lying debate

After Cindy's removal, Saia raises point that women feel forced to lie about body count because men judge them for high numbers. Discussion on whether lying is justified, what happens when found out after 6 months or week before marriage. Jelle argues relationship should not start on a lie. Bivo gives hypothetical scenario.

Andrew Wilson and Cinderella: Catholicism and fertility

Andrew pushes back on Cinderella prioritizing medical career over early family. Argues Catholic Church calls for multiplying and fertile years peak in 20s. Cinderella says she goes to confession but does not agree with all Catholic teachings. Andrew asks why she calls herself Catholic if she picks and chooses. Brian says he would become Orthodox if he converted.

Man vs. Bear question

Standard question: walking alone in woods, encounter random man or random bear? Panel splits: some say bear, some say man. Mixed responses. Brief discussion.

Brian considers Orthodox Christianity

Brian reveals he has been watching YouTube videos about Orthodox Christianity and church history. Andrew Wilson excited; says his chat is in tears. Andrew invites Brian to attend one Orthodox liturgy with Rachel Wilson next week. Brian says if he becomes religious he would go all in, not half-assed. Described the heresy lore as fascinating.

Bumble swiping segment and age preferences

Guests set age ranges and swipe through 20 male Bumble profiles each. Most guests say no to nearly all profiles. Monae: prefers 19-21. Discussion of racial preferences in dating follows the segment. Chat heavily active during this segment.

Transcript

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Brian Atlaslike if it's a small like community so it's like okay well you were with this guy this guy this guy you start doing the math and [ __ ] at least for me that's an instant dump I'm breaking up with

Brian Atlasyou I think that's valid why it's the past well it's the so it's the lying deing so it's the lying like let's

Saia Bellasay she told me up front right but then you I still not but then this is what I'm trying to get most men will not take your girl with a high body count serious

Saia Bellaat the start but then if he's already if she lies then it's all right well so I I kind of you take her more serious if

Saia Bellathat Mak saying but she's still done that all in the past are you saying that women should lie about how many men they've slept with no I'm just saying like a lot of women feel the need to lie

Saia Bellaabout the body counts because of how men go on about it and that's why a lot of girls do lie about it and most people you're saying that we shouldn't trust what women say about can you take her phone well yeah I am to be fair Nick

Andrew Wilsontake her phone you are the [ __ ] are you doing Cindy I'm sorry to stop the show like that but why I don't know how you you're like

Andrew Wilsonswy wreck the whole thing simp and Cindy you know you think you hold on I'm not going to kick you off the show but go stand in the corner for 5 minutes stand

Andrew Wilsonin the corner yeah well where the Caps simping Cindy it's ridiculous you ruined the whole show you stopped all the dialogue okay you can you can go stand in the corner or you have to wear that for five

Andrew Wilsonminutes that's fair put it on five minutes and you got to spin the little helicopter on top Yeah you got to spin the little you got to spin it put on Top

Brian AtlasSpin the spin the helicopter oh it'll fit yeah it'll go yeah Sophia spin it spin let let Sophia spin it what are you doing Cindy God damn there you go all

Andrew Wilsonright you got we for five minutes all right count countdown starting now all right there we go yeah so anyway back to where we were before we were so rudely interrupted by

Saia Bellasimp and Cindy you were saying that we should not trust women's body CER yeah because they feel a reason to lie about it because of how men go on with the

Saia Bellawhole I wouldn't sleep with someone no not that the wouldn't take anyone serious if the body count was over like three and that's why most women lie about

Andrew Wilsonit but then okay hang on we'll get into this in a second go ahead um I are we are we going to read that one or I don't I don't know okay

Andrew Wilsonwell I guess I guess we'll just get we'll just get back into this um I'm crying

Andrew Wilsonanyway so stop it stop you're making and you deserve all this s

Cindy Zanghe I was just checking my I just posted on Instagram this morning I was just trying to check my comments on my Instagram picture seeing how it's

Background/minor (Nick/production)doing okay okay I can't I can't even you can't it's too much what the [ __ ] are you

Background/minordoing okay like how's everyone's doing I

Jelleknow well on that topic I think that if a woman lies about like her body count then she should accept the consequences

Jelleand lying that you know you should be honest and you know if you're ashamed of it well then like you got to work on that cuz that is your body count about just normal women no that's no no that's what I'm saying like if you about if the

Jellehappy though 6 months on line and then he figures and he goes okay and then if he doesn't want to be with you then that is something you have to accept because that's uh a line of boundary that the man might have okay would you stop

Andrew Wilsonblowing the Asian woman can you you stop blowing the ASI go no he's saying Asian woman so like it's the the gag was good for a second you're going to be on Twitter can

Jellenow you're now you're now you're canel canel for calling someone what I was trying to say was that you know if a good a good healthy relationship

Jelleshouldn't be starting off or stemming off of a lie and if a man who you know let's say you did lie and he found out and he still respected you in the way if

Jellehe wants to make that decisions to keep on seeing you then that's great but if he decides not to then that's fair game that's it's just how it goes it's like a preference to your actions yeah like

Alexyeah it's like the same thing sorry no you're good go it's the same thing like if a guy were to lie like the same repercussions it doesn't change just because of your gender yeah like when when when my husband can somebody hang

Andrew Wilsonon can somebody jangle some keys in front of this chick or something can you like can you get some keys just jangle them in front of her would that why but that like would that take care of this problem ran do

Brian Atlasyou have some keys you can jangle I have something even better wait Nick hide hide Andrew actually wait hold on the stream was getting quilly I just I just erupted I've got a you can put Andrew back on I want to see his what he thinks

Brian Atlasof this um what are you doing I got a laser point I don't know if they can see that it's a laser thing like you how cats will can't see it oh I

Cindy Zangsee here just what you can't lie I just made I just made this stream way more entertaining than it was before it was getting

Cindy Zangquilly I have no idea what that is but okay it was quilly did you just like did you just make that word up no it's it's quilly if you're a streamer you know no it's not it's Wily it's quilly look up

Brian Atlasthe Wordly and Billy quilly means it's getting it's getting people are sleeping all right what did I miss I go up for 5 seconds and you guys are losing your minds uh where were we

Brandon 'Bivo' Beusask yourself so right you meet this woman she lies to you about a body count six months down the line it comes out but you're you're happy you've got everything planned you're planning on marrying this girl but it comes out that

Brandon 'Bivo' Beusit's a bit higher than she said are you leaving a relationship when you say a bit higher what do you mean like all right say she told me she said five but it's 25 she said five and it's 25 I got

Brandon 'Bivo' Beusan answer for but you're happy you planned your future all that y you don't know these men that she slept with yep what's your what's your

Brian Atlasreaction well let me even add a couple other uh scenarios to this let's say let's say it's the week before the marriage that's crazy let's say I just

Brian Atlasto just to add add on just to add on it's the week before the marriage and she tells me I'm calling off the marriage and I'm breaking up I'd feel like that whole relationship was a lie based it buil solve a lie that's you

Brian Atlaswhat else and then I have to think rid is 25 actually true like what else is she lying what else is she lying abouty about that hat was a bad idea I

Brian Atlasknow it's good that she's entertained though it's good that you know it's good is it been five minutes yet come can we have it fil all right okay all right why don't you why don't you guys sit down

Andrew Wilsonand let's get back to the show okay Brian you got you're gonna have to take the Hat away I

Brian Atlasthink all right Cindy take the hat off pass it back Sophia's T no no

Brian Atlasno I don't know how how you guys are so entertained have you guys never seen this kind of hat before no dude Cindy you don't know how to spin [ __ ] they

Brian Atlaswere blowing it earlier you missed it she's going like my God Cindy terrible technique okay Cindy we get it you're

Brian Atlaslike quirky and oh my God all right Cindy do me a favor take the hat off of her head and we first H the other way

Brian Atlasaround oh my go should have wear like this I love wearing backward this is a lot something the bit the yep yeah I want it

Brian Atlasbaby all right so the yep the bit is played out so Cindy why don't you do me a favor take it off her head I'm it take it off her head

Brian AtlasCindy pass it here okay there we go oh my God th this is not the kind of woman you want to date boys this is like the type

Brian Atlasof corome [ __ ] that'll just [ __ ] drive you [ __ ] insane oh yeah yeah I feel like you like n not really go for a girl who had no [ __ ] bratty [ __ ] it's kind of annoying to be honest

Andrew Wilsonoh she bumps the [ __ ] camera cuz she's being a [ __ ] idiot my ass was too big yeah no don't touch it you're going to [ __ ] it up more oh my God this troll

Andrew Wilsonis out of control Brian out of control it's time it's time you just call her a troll yeah a

Andrew Wilsontroll troll for sure hold on wait what do you mean M what do you mean I mean this troll need get the [ __ ] out of here she's hijacking the show we

Andrew Wilsonhave all these other great gals whove come from all over the place want to get their stories out they want to talk they want you know they want us to engage with them and she's just hijacked the

TTS/Chat readerentire thing now she's wrecking the camera equipment right she had a donated $200 I don't know if you know this but I consulted a whiteboard and found out

Brian Atlasthat 10 plus 5 is 15 okay okay snaps yeah I kind of I kind of like I kind of try to give her a chance like playfully with the hat to redeem herself just like instead of me

Brian Atlasjust kicking her right then and there I was trying to give her a chance to redeem herself but uh It Is What It Ian she just refused uh where's M yeah I'm sorry but you got yeah you got no uh Cindy unfortunately yeah you just been

Andrew Wilsontoo disruptive like we just got to ask you to leave Madison's going to take your spot so what how am I being disruptive because what do you mean how am I being disruptive you are the one that gave me the Hat

Brian Atlasyeah but like yeah we didn't start messing with camera equipment yeah you're get yeah but you're getting out of your chair I told look I specifically told you hey just grab the Hat give it back to me I know

Brian Atlasbut you could have just not giving me the Hat instead okay so but me giving you the Hat I wasn't spinning it before so yeah but me giving you the me giving you the Hat was like me giving you an out instead of having to kick you I was like okay do this stupid thing I'm not

Cindy Zanggoing to kick you off the show right now I'm so confused because what's there to be confused about I've asked you politely my phone and then you gave me the hat and said sit there within five minutes just get out of the chair look

Brian Atlasand get the decision studio so we can get to the rest of the interesting women and not the trolls it's all right Cindy I wasn't even trolling look that's fine but the decision's already been made

Brian Atlaskindoll what I never I said that was even trying to troll okay Cindy look I got your phone let's go just go come on Cindy please don't make this like a

Brian Atlasthing Cindy it's not a big deal we're not making a big scene but just just leave you've been kind of disruptive and trolling so just go can I say something no just leave no

Brian Atlasget out just get up and leave your permission to be here okay look now I'm trespassing you your permission to be here has been revoked can you just get out of your get up out of your chair just walk out don't make a

Cindy Zangscene it's not a big deal thank you for coming but just get up and leave come on dude what are you doing she's like I'm trying to help you move

Brian Atlasthe the camera can you stop you're being trespassed do you understand I can't see I've already explained it to you look no not yet look

Cindy ZangCindy it's not a big deal you've been disrupted can you read can you read the to did I break any of those rules yo I could if I want to hold on hold on if I

Brian Atlaswant to kick anybody out of here for any reason I can't you don't need to like I don't need any justification for you ask to leave my property like I said I've trespassed you kind of I know but I came

Brian Atlashere and I drove here two hours yeah you've been here on the show for most of the time but now you can

Brian Atlasleave I don't want to perhaps simp and Cindy next time you see how she doesn't respect hold on hold on she doesn't she's I just told her no and she's

Brian Atlascontinuing to stay here because you because like I'm here so now you're trespassing you're actually committing a crime now okay I'm committing a crime this chick

Cindy Zangwould like definitely like essay some person like oh that's crazy wait how do we get there wait hold on you said that you said talk about anything with that before our stream you said to not

Brian Atlasmention anything to do with that your consent to be here has said that you just you literally said my house my rules my house my rules consent your consent to be here has been revoked MD

Brian Atlasyou can film too your consent to be here has been revoked kindly get up and leave I'm not going to make a big scene about it just get up and

Brian Atlasleave you just going to keep sitting there no you're not yes I am no you're not this is my house you can't do that

Cindy Zangyes I am no you're not yes I am not yet Nick yes I am look you do realize that right now you're breaking a law how am I breaking a lot come on it's called trespassing I've asked you to

Brian Atlasleave technically we could forcibly remove you I don't want to have to do that please don't make a scene just get up and we're not going we're not going to do that what we're going to do though I've done nothing don't like look don't

Andrew Wilsonescalate it it's not it doesn't matter just leave just get out just go dude you're great women here who we want to get to you're holding up the whole time to come out on the show they

Andrew Wilsonwant to have their voices heard you've been a you weren't yourself that the shut shut up and get out get just get the [ __ ] out stop talking get out get out don't make a

Brian Atlas[ __ ] scene Cindy stop making a scene just like get up and get out making a scene yeah you are listen can you read the chat what are they saying like I've done nothing Cindy if somebody was in your house and they

Cindy Zangasked you to leave doesn't matter but you invited me here and like so what am I supposed to like yeah but okay now you have been Uninvited what what's what's the American she doesn't

Brandon 'Bivo' Beusunderstand like just basic courtesy and decency and logic I'm bro Cindy get up and

Brandon 'Bivo' Beusleave on the table I mean I could do a split and

Brian AtlasSh okay so here's the situation here's the situ wait wait wait guys stop stop stop stop stop here's the situation this is my property I've trespassed you I've asked you politely multiple times

Cindy Zangare you just trying to do it just cuz like oh it's going to give views on YouTube like oh she got she got kicked out no you've been disruptive Cindy I've asked people to leave the show before

Brian Atlasthey get up they don't make a big [ __ ] scene they just leave you're being like it's not a big deal people leave the show like I it was just there's not there's not going to be a negotiation I've made my decision

Background/minor (Nick/production)there's no going back just get up and leave it's not a big deal it's not a big deal just get up and leave pack your shits and gold yo do do you guys want her to leave look at that

Monaethe cuck the cuck out of here right can't get the [ __ ] out here Andrew M we just want to finish the show I think I've been respectful I just

Andrew Wilsonwant to be respect back yeah Andrew no no no hang on hang on that that's not disrespectful if it's a cck by your own admission right I'm not being disrespectful to you okay that'd be like calling me a debate

Brandon 'Bivo' Beusbro that's that's true just get up just get up and leave but you have been respectful I do grant that no no I appreciate the the argument well here's what I'm going to

Brian Atlasdo all your previous shows I mean if I don't think I don't know if this is going to be enough um motivation for you we're promoting like your your Instagram is linked in all the other shows I'm

Cindy Zangjust going to take you out of the description on all those other shows cuz now you're like it's one thing for me to just like ask you to leave but but you do you do you realize what you've done to our relation you're you're never if you're kicking me out I'm not going to

Cindy Zangbe that's literally saying you don't like me oh oh no we won't have you back to disrupt the [ __ ] show oh that's ter I'm just saying in general on the internet like our relationship you're not going to DM me and tell me come on

Cindy Zangdud honestly I would have if if you just left I would have been happy to actually invite you back I would have still invited you back but now you're making it thing we have a relationship and we're supposed to leave it on a good

Cindy Zangterm so why would you just say that on stream like kick me out what are you talking about you know what I'm saying you're you're like right now you're kicking me out and if I leave right speak to the

Cindy Zangmic if you're going to and then a week later I get a DM from you oh Sydney can you come on what what's the point you kick me out off your show I'm not going to be in like a well it's one idiot to

Brian Atlasgo back on your show because you K like seriously I've invited people back on the show kind rage quit and I've that's St that's dumb that's stupid you just

Cindy Zangmade yourself look like if you're playing the part of getting kicked out and then to go back on again what does that make you look like desperate I don't care I'm not that desperate okay then fine you'll never be on the show

TTS/Chat readeragain I don't care Gerald donated $200 there's more than enough video footage to press charges Cindy no one

Background/minor (Nick/production)cares [ __ ] off look dude yeah just your said it [ __ ] off get out of here Suess chares it's it's it's really simple okay then press

Cindy Zangthen press charges call the police you're really going to call the police tell them your reason it's not even serious it's not even that Ser tell them what call them call call the police call the police I'm trust we could i' rather

Cindy Zangright but I'd rather you just [ __ ] leave okay do it call the police no I'd rather you just [ __ ] leave so we we don't waste their [ __ ] time this bull I wasn't wasting I literally went right back to the and I acci bumped into the camera

Background/minor (Nick/production)footage oh they spilled again oh my god let's just take one thing at a time yeah yo just [ __ ] leave Cindy it's

Brian Atlasokay you're just making it worse for yourself like it doesn't make any sense yeah I feel like it's dragging on a little bit too long bro be okay fine you don't have to like me you can [ __ ] hate me I'm ask never polite I'm just ask look I was polite

Brian Atlaseverybody who asked me about you I've always said good things about you so then fine talk [ __ ] about me from here on out don't care I've been I asked you politely to leave I didn't say get the [ __ ] out [ __ ] I just said leave that's

Brian Atlasit okay but you're still telling me to leave a podcast that you invited me on imagine you were dating this chick and you asked her to leave your place and she refused to leave like [ __ ] ridiculous look this is my property I've

Brian Atlastrespassed you you're trespassing just get up and [ __ ] leave you can [ __ ] hate me for the rest of your life honestly I don't even think me kicking you off is a big thing we could have had you back if you had just gone

Brian Atlasup that's besides the point though look we got a whole panel here you're you've been holding up the show for like 10 minutes at this point you can say [ __ ] Brian I hate Brian be respectful to the other panelists who came here I was I never did anything to any of them I

Brian Atlasrefusal to leave you're the one that gave me the Hat what what started this what started all of this because the Hat this is gaslighting it's not gasl it literally all started because gave me that hot yeah because you were on your

Cindy Zangphone against the rules that we said pH took my phone that's it that's what we did you've been on your phone too you've been on your phone multiple times from your there's other girls that's been on their phone before so there's not really

Brian Atlasa really a reasoning for you to be disrespectful to me I've kicked off other women before just get the [ __ ] off the show get get up and [ __ ] leave there's no negotiation here just get the [ __ ] out you only because he's

Cindy Zanglistening this idiot right here he's like oh she's a troll like it's too much I can't handle this you can't have a little fun in your life you got to be serious and smoking your cigarette bro

Cindy Zanglike every two seconds till about 10 minutes just get the [ __ ] up and leave Hur get up and leave I don't know okay I

Andrew Wilsonmean I don't know I I want to see what the chat has to say this got to be this has to be ridiculous the United States of Whatever podcast does not negotiate with

Andrew Wilsonterrorists get your ass out of the chair and get the [ __ ] out of the studio I did not BR the police will be called and he will be arrested for trespassing not a joke it's not a joke I don't know why you think it's a

Andrew Wilsonjoke $200 [ __ ] I think it is a joke get the [ __ ] up and get out [ __ ] out what are you doing at this point you could be considered dangerous you've

Andrew Wilsonbeen asked to leave multiple times youon out of the studio get out of the studio stop talking get up and get the [ __ ] out what are you doing I mean we get

Andrew Wilsonour it's not a joke like what are you doing get up and leave get up and leave we did to get here I'm not going to lie and leave how many more times does this need to be stated to you

Andrew Wilsonemphatically we have video evidence you will be trespassed we don't want to do that leave the stre okay what's the evidence sorry the evidence that you've been asked to leave multiple times I'm

Brian Atlasfor what reason re dumb I don't need a reason to I could if I asked anybody here to leave but there has to be a reason no there doesn't yes there is a

Brian Atlasreason so out hey let me ask you a question if somebody's at your house and you ask them to leave my friends would be like oh like I

Cindy Zanghave something to do my friends are coming not that desperate lol see you in two months Dum [ __ ] so like usually like if my friends

Cindy Zangwould be like oh yeah oh yeah um oh yeah so like you have to go because I have you know guests coming over I'm going to

Andrew Wilsonleave oh well we have guests who are already here that we'd like to get to can you get out yeah just leave look at these nice ladies you're

Andrew Wilsonruining their great time how how was I ruining when you you escalate this listen if you we have to make an example by actually

Cindy Zangcalling the police having you trespass don't be stupid I think like I would have left if you didn't if I can't hear you unless you're talking in the mic you realize said I would have I would have peacefully left if you didn't threaten

Cindy Zangme and because you threaten me threatened you yes you did you literally say you're going to call the police you literally Andrew you literally say you call the police you're committing a crime right so you you're threatening me

Cindy Zangso I'm sitting here stop you're committing a crime you're literally committing a crime I'm committing a crime are you [ __ ] dumb you literally are how am I committing a crime there's literally prove there's

Brian Atlasliterally prove idiot you're [ __ ] you inviting me over to an exchange for content to content it's not a threat to be like if you if you don't stop I would have left if you didn't threaten me I

Cindy Zangdid I asked you to leave without threatening the threat is I've never se you you after being asked you literally threat I would be locked up if I didn't leave

Andrew Wilsonthat's what's going to happen unfortunately for you watch the place come and she goes CU me I'm CU me I've never I've never gone I've never gone CU before it's sad but I mean never kind of

Andrew Wilsonstupid sorry just saying careful with the wait what' you say Andrew I said it's really silly for you

Andrew Wilsonto escalate it that far butting no reason for you to do so I would just actually get up and go I would not stick around for the cops it's not a great idea nobody want I don't I didn't do anything doesn't matter what you

Andrew Wilsonperceive as being wrong what you perceive as being wrong doesn't matter you've been asked to leave you're trespassing on private property get up out of your chair and get

Andrew Wilsonout I was invited I signed I signed sh stop talking get up from private I signed n leave then here's the NDA get out get out and I was like bro this is

Cindy Zangthis is like the crazy entitlement that we have with people man it's crazy what kind of colorful hat that looked like caou uh

Cindy ZangCaillou nice if you to wear the hat and then while I was wearing the Hat Andrew was laughing the whole stop talking and and giggling he was like stop talking

Andrew Wilsonand leave the studio you're out of control right you're clearly mentally unstable you need to get up and leave the studio immediately oh my gosh

Andrew Wilsonthere's no way you just said that studio immediately stop talking get up and leave get up he's recording me leave the studio this is all bad for you just get

Jelleup and leave the studio stop talking get up and leave here's another 69 plus three other 200 super chats out up she was like he's recording me

Jellewithout consent yet you're here without I'm going to have to take you up will you just go get up and go why would that be I literally signed paper what are you

Andrew Wilsontalking yeah just just leave

Background/minorplease

Jellewe're oh my God bye friend that was a [ __ ] bye friend bye friend well I didn't expect that to happen move up a little fix the

Graci Monatacamera what's happening now like are we done the talk is everyone's nights going well I

Jelleknow just hang for a second I mean it's fine it's like we're not the ones that made a PO ourselves what's uh what's your what's your favorite fast food favorite fast food I'm going to say like

Alexchick chick-fil in an out in out in out or Shake Shack Shake Shack expensive wait do you guys have Shake Shack yeah I feel like I'm a

Alexb like I like in and out I like in and out but in and- out hits after a night and

Graci MonataI wait what happened to I said Popeyes majority of the stuff we ever got D donut I've never had Pope eyes before never my mom like my mom just

Alexyou please take right enough that relax hang on I could try no it's like the most the more we talk about food the more hungry come on dude get

Andrew Wilsoncontrol of your woman here come on she's right she making money you can't do it you it's the paycheck no no no come on look we got we got to adhere to to come on be be cool

Andrew Wilsonlike we we've we've had a great combo back and forth let's not let's not take it to the next level we got rid of the troll so that we can get to everybody else so that we can talk to everybody

Monaeelse thought what the Smoothie spill oh my god dude you [ __ ] idiots I'm not no IDI I didn't SP

Cinderellait everything coming apart today that

Alexyou know who did that yeah I accidentally spilled it my bad but it wasn't my drink but we're blaming you anyway well

Jelleas a Mexican that's easy to claim nice little pink pink scrub a Scrub Daddy maybe some

Brian Atlasbleach [ __ ] [ __ ] on their [ __ ] drink

Brian Atlasall right guys we had to readjust the cameras this probably looks a little how long we got left it's all good [ __ ] we got a lot left a lot this damn we're going to keep going yeah now we can

Andrew Wilsonactually get to the show right we can talk to everybody so sorry that you guys experienced this uh sorry about that sorry about that guys um you're hungry

Andrew Wilsonwe we should have honestly just [ __ ] uh had Nick [ __ ] uh just escort her out to begin with by the way can we get a shout out to the kid who came over and took care of the problem [ __ ] epic

Brian Atlasand awesome good job Nick good job good job Nick nice one Nick um Madison you're GNA take uh yeah

Brian Atlasonce you're done cleaning that up sorry guys we got a terrible [ __ ] spillage Naked Juice spilled all over the [ __ ] ah the whole [ __ ] thing um I don't know it's going to be a pain in

Brian Atlasthe ass to deal with that I'll read some of the chats here let's see uh we should have had Nick do it soon I wanted to try to give her a chance to just [ __ ] get out without without

Andrew Wilsonwithout us having to [ __ ] physically remove her but you get L TRS or no not reallya occasionally there's one or two who come on they're hard they're hard

Brian Atlasalways to far it out but man Nick Savage Nick good job ni problem good job Nick W Nick in a chat you know all right I'm just getting through some of these chats

Background/minor (Nick/production)here hold on one sec guys we got this call the cops yeah I mean technically look uh she was trespassing it's crime so she's

Brian Atlaslaughing oh you're going to call the cops over this yeah [ __ ] if you're [ __ ] refusing to leave somebody's private property yes that's trespassing it's misdemeanor it's a crime can I ask a question what's up you know like gun laws cuz I'm from England in it if

Brandon 'Bivo' Beussomeone was trespassing could you put a gun on her uh I don't think the use of force not in California okay no we don't have guns in England so I was just wondering this one yeah they don't have guns really in California okay

Brian Atlasthank you uh fix that if you can Maddie um all right you do troll y I'm just going to get through all these guys really quick

Brian Atlaswe have a bunch of chats here uh hold on one sec boys okay we have JJ Brian you need a security guard a female one so they can't claim any me2 [ __ ] this

Brian Atlashappens way too often uh is what it is um we have had security guards but of course the [ __ ] night that uh some [ __ ] goes down [ __ ] Spencer is

Brian Atlasnot here so going to need to hire somebody else um is what it is thank you JJ appreciate it man uh let's see we

Brian Atlashave uh look man uh I know this is below the threshold look it is what it is you got to be very careful like anytime you like this is why like these

Brian AtlasMega corporations like [ __ ] Walmart and uh like retail stores they often times just like let these people [ __ ] just steal cuz it's like a it's a liability at the end of the day to physically intervene cuz who knows what

Brian Atlasthey're going to claim they're going to claim you touch them inappropriately you hurt them they got injured blah blah blah luckily Nick just like kind of stood behind her uh and she actually just kind of [ __ ] just for the most part was pretty cooperative and just

Brian Atlas[ __ ] left so is what it is but that's cuz she has the hots for Nick let's not kid ourselves right probably probably she was she was simping Cindy for Nick let's not I mean that's that's how it

Brian Atlaswas and Maddie we actually have some of that carpet cleaner I'm pretty sure I brought it so um I AP some of you guys sent in chats unfortunately I'm not going to be able to re-trigger them I'll have to read them some of them have

Brian Atlasfallen off so uh we'll get to it in just a sec guys I apologize to uh the panel here uh for that I apologize to the viewers that was kind of ridiculous but

Brian AtlasCindy body positivity is actually a negative to society it's not a positive thing to affirm grossly overweight people in their delusion a true friend will fat shame you or ask you to leave

Brian Atlasokay thank you thank you we have uh the one from just Gerald came through already we have Sean Erikson here whoa the two DNA big depositories are

Brian Atlasattention host callor me shocked yeah I mean she's just dragging that on for attention basically so yep and then we have another one appreciate the message Sean Ericson thank you man

Brian Atlasappreciate it and then we have another one from Shan Ericson coming in here in just a sec whoa Cindy the attention ho DNA depository has the IQ of an aeba yeah I mean you can't reason with

Brian Atlasstupid and uh she just didn't get it so it is what it is listen to Brian The Crucible chat demands that I send a tip to Nick he was Johnny on the spot did a

Andrew Wilsongreat job so we're to take care of that too okay yeah they demand it they demanded it Nick they demanded it uh send me a text we'll get a sent right

Brian Atlasover to you all right there you go Nick playing uh Nick coming in clutch there with the assist yeah it's just a liability on our end like yeah

Brian Atlastechnically look whether it's if it's private property you can uh forcibly physically remove somebody from your property use necessary Force to to do so but there's

Brian Atlasjust a liability there and it's a bad look for uh like for me for example to like go ahead and try to like physically remove somebody from the show I could do it but like Optics wise

Brian Atlasuh there are considerations there beyond what is legally Justified so yep did we pull this one up Nick or no we did okay all right um oops we're not going to do

Brian Atlas69 TTS yet uh but I think we'll drop it and then we'll do the ah we're doing it live folks Maddie were you able to find the carpet cleaner thing yeah I'm doing

Brian Atlasit right now so you have to squeeze it yeah okay cool cool cool all right let me get into my notes Here my

Brian Atlasgoodness see me on the ground yeah Maddie's I don't know if uh nope okay from right there let me get into some of my pre-show notes here we'll get through everything and then

Brian Atlaswe'll get into a a different segment oh you can you can leave it there MD's going out the way yeah mty's going to sit there yeah no that's fine you can leave it there uh let's see Alex uh you

Brian Atlaswanted to talk about hold on how the hookup culture in Santa Barbara and how it feels like high school with all the people in the group hooking up with each other and that whole thing confuses me because how are

Brian Atlasthey not bugged about hooking up with the same guys so is that what's happening like so people in the same friend group they're all like kind of hooking up with each other yeah so it feels like high school where it's like

Alexthat one big group that just shares each other that's and I just think it's like I mean like yeah that's college but like I've only

Alexexperienced here in Santa Barbara and when I tell my friends about like specific situations U my friends that go to other colleges they're always like wow like Santa Barbara seems like it's

Alexnot real and it's really not yeah it's not um it feels like one big like reality show and it's just an interesting demographic here

Brian Atlasokay so you said that you you're kind of baffled by like how fastpaced it is the fastpac but how just like mixed it is here with like how people hook up I

Alexdon't know it's it's kind of what we talked about before where it's like in the sense that people might might not know someone's name and then they'll hook up and I'm just like not

Alexused to that but then also like why do we have to hook up in the same group I know that's weird or like roommates I'm I'm talking specifically about roommates too like roommates are messing

Alexwith the same people not like just people that I know or like they'll be messing with like multiple guys in the same house so I just don't understand

Alexhow like someone would be okay with that yeah who y'all meting I swear I live I live in a really interesting place where do you live can

Brian Atlascan the mods um who are in the chat can you guys find me the other episodes that Cindy was on um I'm going to take her out of the description on all her other appearances too um I wouldn't have do

Brian Atlasdone that just doing a kick actually I would have probably just left her her thing in the description even for today's show but when you pull that [ __ ] then it's

Brian Atlas[ __ ] you've just burned a bridge so she's out for she's going to get removed from all the other stuff so um if mods can find that for me uh having a panelist get up start cleaning would be

Brian Atlasfar more fulfilling for most men watching wait what yeah notice none of the noticed even the girl who spilled the [ __ ] didn't like do the considerate

Alexthing oh no I did I did clean up yeah I did get out of there because yeah so I couldn't clean it up fully but trust me I got I got a good head on my shoulders I would do that

Brian Atlasstuff okay yeah you're right Nick we were dealing with like two [ __ ] bullshits at the same time okay uh going to Michaela here you said that you think you definitely disagree on some topics overall I think we

Brian Atlasdisagree on the standards held for men vers women when it comes to their relationship with sex not that the desire is different but that the standard should be that both withhold until commitment or marriage if religious so what are the uh besides

Michaelathat what are the disagreements that you had with myself the show or Andrew um I think it was mainly that like I feel like the the more I hear you talk I'm not sure that that's your opinion so I would like to give you the space to uh I

Michaeladon't know elaborate I guess like um the I mean like I feel like you're um you're somewhat okay with like men having like

Andrew Wilsonsleeping around never said that okay all right then we don't disagree uh well Brian's position is that there's a a separation of standard

Andrew Wilsonand Society so uh his claim which is which is actually true we we have um an awful lot of data and polling to support this that women view promiscuity in men

Andrew Wilsonvery differently than how women uh view uh promiscuity in the same light right so essentially we view it in a different way women don't seem to punish men for being promiscuous nearly

Andrew Wilsonas much as men tend to punish women for being promiscuous so it's an is claim rather than an a claim Brian's never said that men should be promiscuous rather he just says they're not punished for being

Michaelapromiscuous like women are gotcha well that's good that's good to clarify I think that maybe I've been confused before I'm not in favor of uh male promiscuity just I do think there are

Andrew Wilsonsome differences between men and women um so yeah yeah well I mean and you you would agree right there's tons of women for instance who if a man is still a

Andrew Wilsonvirgin when they're 25 or 30 might actually see that as a red flag like there's something wrong with him whereas men tend to Value Chastity in women even into their 30s they seem to value that

Michaelaquite a bit more you know what I'm saying does that make sense to you absolutely I I I definitely um I see what you're saying um but I think it

Michaelashould be that both value chassity if we could put a should on it yeah yeah sure sure should yes but is so as Brian's

Andrew Wilsonrunning the dating podcast he's looking at what is true so what we're all talking about for the most part is what is going on and then we kind of make prescriptions based on that yeah but what yeah go ahead I'm sorry no no

Michaelayou're good like like they definitely that is the way it is but it I think that it should change like on in the modern dating landscape it is that way but it should change I think that it the like if we could if we could change the

Andrew Wilsonway that that is viewed we're going to change a lot about how people go about dating generally right now we but what do you do about the fact that women see

Andrew Wilsonit as a red flag if men do not have sexual partners before them they think of it as being uh well hey uh what what's wrong with you that other women

Andrew Wilsondon't desire you it seems to be a difference and distinction in standard how exactly would you f fix that I I'm not sure I I don't come from that that like I don't come from that worldview so

Michaelait's hard for me to say that like my my husband waited for me and I I'm so grateful for that and it was I did you wait for him I you know I made I made a mistake in my my teenage years and it

Michaelawasn't you know it had a lot of Shame put on me um but you know moving forward I wanted to make that better and I wanted to be honest with him and tell him you know like even though we both

Michaelacome from the same worldview I want to be honest with you and tell you that I made this mistake which actually opened a lot of doors for us to like uh be really honest about like the way that uh our culture has

Michaelaaffected did each of us individually and then moving forward in our relationship we were able to patch that up and really work toward a more God honoring relationship I don't sure sure I mean I understand what you're saying yeah I'm

Andrew Wilsonjust saying that you're your worldview is probably more akin to my worldview I understand that but if we're looking at a descriptor for what is true in modernity

Andrew Wilsoninside of modern society you would have to agree that Brian is kind of correct in this assessment that women seem to Value what is considered the promiscuous

Andrew WilsonOmega Chad or the guy who gets a ton of women seems to be desired by just as many women where the opposite is not true the woman who sleeps with a lot of men tends to be vilified by what are

Michaelaconsidered these highquality men right yeah and I and I feel like maybe it's misplaced ideas of like like leadership in a relationship like I feel like maybe

Michaelalike women value leadership um and then obviously in the bedroom as well they value leadership rather than and and I think it's somewhat misplaced because of because of

Michaelathis so like oh experience is important to me whereas it should be you know rewire that it should be leadership is really important to me yeah but how do

Andrew Wilsonyou but but how do you map the A on the a of women should punish men for the promiscuity when they clearly don't seem to think of it as a value they seem to

Andrew Wilsonthink that the more desired a man is the more attracted they are to said man that seems to almost be intuitive it's kind of strange in a way I don't know exactly

Michaelahow you fix that what do you think you should do to fix it for the a I think the only way that you can actually fix that worldview is if you change your

Michaelalike if you change your like moral compass because if you so religion yeah I really believe that religion is the only way to fix that because yeah so I

Andrew Wilsontend I tend to agree but you do you do recognize that many many women do not follow any sort of religiosity whatsoever but why do you think it is

Andrew Wilsonthat those women in particular seem to go for those types of men why do you think that is you're saying that uh women you're saying like they don't give a [ __ ] they don't care so if a guy has

Andrew Wilsonoh you know I bagged 100 chicks they don't see that the same way that men see it when a woman says I've bagged 100 dudes men go oh God that's that's disgusting right but women don't seem to

Michaelasee it the same way yeah yeah I definitely think that that's an issue I think that maybe they think and what you know these we're we're fed these thoughts like oh you're NE don't even look don't even look for someone who's a

Andrew Wilsonvirgin because you're not going to find it so don't don't look or that you say like oh you think that so of these women's claiming that you're an incel

Andrew Wilsonwhat they do is they say if you have not had sex before X AG you're an incel and because of the incel rhetoric which has gone around that that is why so many

Andrew Wilsonwomen view Chastity in men as being some sort of weakness because they associate it with basement dwelling psychopath incel don't you think that there's a media push towards that oh yeah a media

Michaelapush yeah oh you hit the nail on the head I definitely I think there's a media push toward it and I think that that's you know that's an issue and it definitely needs to change is it is it even bad to be an

Andrew Wilsonincel is or is it even bad to be chased as a man it seems like it that would be a good quality but it it seems that there's some indoctrination that it somehow makes you um a bad person or

Andrew Wilsonyou're seeing in a vilified light like oh you can't pull women there must be something wrong with you yeah I I mean I

MichaelaI think that I don't I've heard the term incel like maybe once or twice um and I think I've only heard like my husband explain to me really what it is when

Andrew Wilsonsomeone would call someone that um so I involuntarily celibate oh okay there you go so these are so what but what happens is this kind of great conflation so an

Andrew Wilsoninvoluntarily celibate man is a person who's trying to attract female attention but cannot oh I think that that would be but there are men choose to become

Andrew Wilsonchased who they could they just choose not to and there's this great conflation what that happens where they are put in the category of being involuntarily

Michaelacelibate rather than voluntarily celibate I think that that's where there's a huge disconnect yeah I definitely think that's that's a disconnect but I also

Michaelawonder if it if it has to do with um people these men actually not seeking it I think that I think that involuntary

Michaelacelibacy might be you know I mean they're they're genuinely not seeking a relationship maybe they're uh they don't want to date they think these like terrible things about women they don't

Andrew Wilsonwant to like find a wife because they've they've maybe had their I mean why would they want to date a chick who's bag 10 15 guys why would they want to do that I mean there's so many seems like a bad idea right there's like a lot of wh ifs

Alexlike there's not one set answer as to why a guy who who is involuntarily celibate would like not get laid like there's just so many reasons as to why

Andrew Wilsonsame thing for a woman just so many yeah for somebody who is actually involuntarily celebrated but what I'm saying is that there's a conflation which happens that men who voluntarily

Andrew Wilsonchoose Chastity are vilified as being um incels when they actually are not incels they choosing this but they're put in that category because they won't engage in the promiscuity of society yeah it's

Michaelalike the negative connotation to what you what should be is like like this man has been chased and saving himself for marriage that's the positive connotation and the negative would be like oh he's an incel but it should it shouldn't be

Andrew Wilsonthat way because it should be well it shouldn't but why do you think that there's such a push from feminists to label men as being incels if they choose chassity a great example there's a a

Andrew Wilsonregular on this show Mason right this guy he looks like a Greek statue there this dude right chiseled out of stone

Andrew Wilsonand he is CH he's chased he's still a virgin right a brilliant engineer very very very sharp guy but he refuses to

Andrew Wilsoncompromise on his moral values uh when it comes to his Chastity I think that that is something which should be

Andrew Wilsoncelebrated but instead it's vilified and he is called an incel by multiple women only because he refuses to engage with promiscuity And yet when I talk to him

Michaelahe says men don't really say that to me it's just women women are the ones who say that to me that's bizarre to me why do you think that is uh the the movement

Michaelatowards sexual Liber wait the sexual Liberation in like the 70s it's like that's the only thing that I could say would actually be that cuz that's when women decided we can have sex and we can

Andrew Wilsondo whatever we want well is it that or is it that there's women who are promiscuous and they don't like the fact that it's up as a mirror to them by chased men who say I'm not going to engage in that and they do everything

Michaelathey can to compromise their moral Integrity yeah no absolutely but I think it does go back to like feminism and then the sexual Liber Li Liberation um in that era because that's

Michaelawhen it like all began and it and it definitely needs to change I don't know if we're going to be able to have that kind of a um religious Revolution I would I would I would

TTS/Chat readerdefinitely go for it let me ran looks like want move it on so real Trump donated $69 why God why why did you take Princess Diana and leave us with pritu

TTS/Chat readerBarbie when she got that hat she looked like a cat high on meth playing with feather she's definitely a product of incest no can I have the hot Bo thank

Brian Atlasyou Trump um by the way I have lowered the TTS trigger to 69 if any of you want to get the uh TTS and as we are entering kind

Brian Atlasof the later portion of the show the trigger has been reduced to 69 if anybody is interested in that so and she's not a prostitute let's just get that clear no no no she definitely is

Andrew Wilsonlet's get back God the frost well I guess you guys have different definitions of that word um yeah somebody somebody who uh has sex with men for money definitely she fits that

Brian Atlascategory right SE for money for money going to get through my notes so uh for Michaela you said hot take wait wait hang on did you just tell her to say something was that the first time you

Andrew Wilsonwere assertive did you just assert your will on your woman did you just do that did you just tell her to say something Andrew you you got go pray your saying you just crack

Brandon 'Bivo' Beuson whatever the hell that means but moving things on like

Brian Atlasyeah okay so you said you have a hot take consumption of pornography is cheating hot take pornography creates weak men yes do you want to elaborate on

Brian Atlasthose points at all or I mean I think it speaks for itself mhm okay if I grant you that uh consumption of pornography is cheating and I think it's pretty and

TTS/Chat readeryou would say it's like for both men and women right like if watch porn Okay Ben donated $69 most women love to be told what to

TTS/Chat readerdo by a man they just don't admit it if a man also treats them like [ __ ] they go harder in that's why ice Sky friends that want more always remain

Cinderellafriends I mean he's not lying though right like if we went around the panel is he lying is he like look I see you laughing back there I think he has a point he has one good point with the

Cinderellawoman I feel like if a man put like I said before if a man puts a woman in a position where she can feel like like feminine then I don't think we would have any problem like doing what our man

Cinderellawant us to do or like pleasing him in any way but it's the fact that I don't think in this society that men are showing for what they want to receive that's the problem yeah what do you what do you mean they're not showing what

Cinderellathey want to receive like um how do I how do I start this with just like the point of like today's like commitment um standards and stuff you can't really like we we've start we we've went on

Andrew Wilsonthis we can't do husband things for a boyfriend and I feel like that's like a really big part wifey things for a boyfriend so I feel like that's a really big part of like men don't bu wifey things do you mean uh cooking cleaning

Andrew Wilsonthat type of thing or you yeah like that that was like around the conversation the premise of the conversation we had previously I don't well I don't understand that though if you have a girlfriend who you're dating let's say

Cinderellayou're not having sex what's wrong with her cooking and cleaning and things like this if you're dating no no that wasn't my point I'm saying that men don't to in like in today's time men don't don't

Andrew Wilsonreally pursue the commitment that they want for us to show like those type of like attributes in a relationship and I don't think there's okay hang on now I think we might tangle on this a little

Andrew Wilsonbit um what do you mean they're not that are you saying that they're not like leading you in such a way where you feel like you want to be led is that is

Cinderellathat where you're going with this or if I I'm let me put myself in a situation where I'm not in a relationship with a man but he expects those like certain treatments that's

Cinderellawhat I mean well by relationship you mean not his girlfriend yes like that's the that was the premises of the conversation we had yeah yeah well I'm just can you expand on it for me um I'm saying that uh wait the the first

TTS/Chat readerquestion that we started off with was what was the topic again well we were we were discussing why it is that

TTS/Chat readeryou think Brian's favorite inated $69 crazy episode BPD girl refusing to leave and Maddy going Molly made on the carpet

TTS/Chat readerBrian stay strong MADD start a cleaning Channel instead of cooking YouTube not off I'm about to start a a carpet cleaning business you can see how well

TTS/Chat readerit good she did J Destiny donated $69 Catholicism considers excessive smoking a sin against the virtue of temperance let's all Watch Andrew dismiss it and pretend it doesn't count

Andrew Wilsonfor him so he can go back to attacking others for their sin I'm not a Catholic I'm not a Roman Catholic I'm an Eastern Orthodox that's one and then two you would have to Define excessive and then

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