BEAVO SIMP! COPS CALLED! Strumpet REFUSES To Leave?! TRESPASSED AND KICKED OUT?! | Dating Talk #163

Date: 2024-05-22

Duration: 7h 09m

Guests

Brian Atlas

SSaia Bella (DT163)>

BBrandon Beus (DT163)>

MMonae (DT163)>

GGraci Monata (DT163)>

CCinderella (DT163)>

JJelle (DT163)>

MMichaela (DT163)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Brandon 'Bivo' Beus(guest)

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Alex(guest)

SPEAKER_03Saia Bella(guest)

SPEAKER_04Cindy Zang(guest)

SPEAKER_05Cinderella(guest)

SPEAKER_06Monae(guest)

SPEAKER_09Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_11Graci Monata(guest)

SPEAKER_12Jelle(guest)

SPEAKER_14Michaela(guest)

Key Moments

IntroGuest introductions begin. Cindy Zang (returning) introduces herself first, followed by Saia Bella, Brandon/Bivo (open relationship couple from Manchester), Monae, Graci, Alex, Cinderella, Jelle, and Michaela.

“hi guys my name is Cindy Zang I am 24 years old I live in Los Angeles and I am a only fans model”

OtherBrandon 'Bivo' Beus introduces himself and explains open relationship dynamic: both partners, always together, all for content, partners are pre-tested. Defines himself as atheist ('God is money'). Previously only monogamous.

“beus known as bivo um I do Tik Tok I'm from Manchester and I'm hlag”

Key MomentAndrew Wilson introduces himself as host of The Crucible debate channel. Joins remotely after being late due to family emergency.

“my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible fastest growing debate channel on the internet I'm a political saturnist”

ControversyAndrew Wilson debates Cindy Zang on her claim that God wants her to do OnlyFans and Satan would want her to stop. Asks if God told her to do gang bangs. Cindy says she would sell her soul to the devil for $12M/year. Andrew challenges the logical consistency of her Christian identity.

“does God want you to stick a dick in your mouth is that what God wants you to do”

ControversyAndrew Wilson argues all sex work (stripping, OnlyFans) constitutes prostitution by definition — selling sexual favors for money. Panel extensively debates this. Saia argues intent distinguishes strippers from prostitutes.

“I just was curious how it would not be prostitution if a guy paid you money to grind on his penis in order to make it hard”

OtherSelf-rating round begins. Brian asks panel to rate their looks 1-10 (can't pick 7). Cindy: 10+. Saia: 10+. Alex: 10. Cinderella: 7-8. Michaela: 10.

“Cindy what do you rate your looks on a scale of 1 to 10 go ahead I'm 10 and above period”

OtherBrian gives his ratings: Cindy=6, Saia=5, Bivo=10, Monae=6.5. Two additional lower ratings (~4 and ~5) given to other guests (unclear assignment). Bivo called 'the only 10 at the table' by Brian.

“so Cindy I give you uh give you a six uh sopia give you five BVO 10 nothing”

ControversyCindy Zang disrupts show by grabbing and spinning propeller hat, then bumping camera equipment. Brian formally trespasses her at ~3:57:26. Cindy refuses to leave for several minutes. Andrew and Bivo both tell her to go. Brian threatens to forcibly remove her. Eventually she leaves. Show title references this as 'Strumpet REFUSES To Leave / TRESPASSED AND KICKED OUT'.

“your permission to be here has been revoked kindly get up and leave”

QuoteBrian formally trespasses Cindy Zang: 'Your permission to be here has been revoked.'

“look now I'm trespassing you your permission to be here has been revoked”

Key MomentBrian reveals he has been watching Orthodox Christianity YouTube videos and finds the history/lore fascinating. Andrew Wilson says his viewers are in tears. Andrew invites Brian to attend one liturgy with Rachel Wilson next visit.

“if I ever become religious I think I I would become Orthodox”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship statuses

Guests introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Cindy Zang returns. Saia Bella and Brandon Bivo arrive from Manchester in open relationship. Bivo explains open relationship dynamic (both partners, together only, for content). Michaela reveals she is moving to Alabama to pay off student loans.

Open relationship / modern dating dynamics

Brian probes Bivo and Saia's open relationship: logistics, jealousy, STI testing. Bivo says all partners are pre-planned, tested, and for content. Discussion of monogamy vs open relationships and motivations.

Cindy Zang: Christian OnlyFans creator debate

Extended discussion with Cindy on reconciling Christian identity with OnlyFans. Cindy argues God wants her to do it; Satan would want her to stop. Cross necklace / fake tattoo backstory. Brian notes Cindy's Instagram bio says 'God first' above OnlyFans link. Panel challenges Cindy on justification logic.

Worst thing said during sex / weird dating stories

Round-table: worst thing said to you during sex or on a date. Saia was called 'Abby' (another woman's name). Bivo was called 'Bivo' by a fan. Graci had guy who got insecure when she laughed during sex. Alex told story of 6'6" date who ate shrimp messily and tried to kiss her after. Brian shared story of girl who wanted cat role play. Graci shared story about girl who wanted to be punched in the face.

Body count round

Michaela asks panel for body counts. Bivo: below 20. Saia: less than 30 / double digits. Cinderella: declined. Alex confirmed virgin (0). Others declined or minimal sharing.

Andrew Wilson joins: OnlyFans, Christianity, and prostitution definitions

Andrew Wilson calls in remotely. Debates Cindy Zang's Christian/OnlyFans logic. Asks if God told her to do gang bangs. Challenges definition of prostitution — argues all sex work (stripping, OnlyFans) = prostitution by intent. Panel debates this distinction at length. Sophia (Saia) argues misogynistic men target OnlyFans women.

Self-rating round and Brian's ratings

Brian asks each guest to rate their own looks 1-10 (can't pick 7). Cindy: 10+. Saia: 10+. Alex: 10. Cinderella: 7-8. Michaela: 10 (husband says so). Monae: 5. Andrew (phone): 4. Brian then gives his ratings: Cindy=6, Saia=5, Bivo=10, Monae=6.5, and lower ratings for others (4 and 5 mentioned). Discussion on inflated female self-assessments.

Dating marketplace and female overestimation of league

Brian argues many women overestimate their position in the dating marketplace. Explains front-end vs back-end rejection: men get instant rejection if out of league; women get used for sex and then ghosted. Discusses why women often chase top 10% men. Men are salesmen, women are marketers analogy. Social media as women staying on the market even in relationships. Panel debates.

Cindy Zang trespassed and removed from show

Cindy disrupts show: refuses to sit down, grabs propeller hat, spins it, bumps camera equipment while trying to return it. Brian gives her the hat as a last chance to redeem herself; she escalates instead. Brian formally trespasses her at ~3:57:26. Cindy refuses to leave for several minutes, arguing she wasn't trolling. Andrew Wilson and Bivo also tell her to leave. Cindy eventually escorted out.

Body count lying debate

After Cindy's removal, Saia raises point that women feel forced to lie about body count because men judge them for high numbers. Discussion on whether lying is justified, what happens when found out after 6 months or week before marriage. Jelle argues relationship should not start on a lie. Bivo gives hypothetical scenario.

Andrew Wilson and Cinderella: Catholicism and fertility

Andrew pushes back on Cinderella prioritizing medical career over early family. Argues Catholic Church calls for multiplying and fertile years peak in 20s. Cinderella says she goes to confession but does not agree with all Catholic teachings. Andrew asks why she calls herself Catholic if she picks and chooses. Brian says he would become Orthodox if he converted.

Man vs. Bear question

Standard question: walking alone in woods, encounter random man or random bear? Panel splits: some say bear, some say man. Mixed responses. Brief discussion.

Brian considers Orthodox Christianity

Brian reveals he has been watching YouTube videos about Orthodox Christianity and church history. Andrew Wilson excited; says his chat is in tears. Andrew invites Brian to attend one Orthodox liturgy with Rachel Wilson next week. Brian says if he becomes religious he would go all in, not half-assed. Described the heresy lore as fascinating.

Bumble swiping segment and age preferences

Guests set age ranges and swipe through 20 male Bumble profiles each. Most guests say no to nearly all profiles. Monae: prefers 19-21. Discussion of racial preferences in dating follows the segment. Chat heavily active during this segment.

Transcript

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Jelledating sort yourself broke boy also I feel like as a man you should come and like make the environment for me to want to be submissive and want to be taken care of and I think that's where a lot

Cindy Zangin our feminine energy do you want to be dominant yeah do want us to be the Dom no like you like submissive no but if you're dating like

Cinderellaa liberal feminist woman like of course you should split position to want to to want to lean I said you should want to put her in a position to want to lean more towards the not so oh I need to be so

Cinderellaindependent I need to be over my husband you need to make her feel safe in that space in order to do that you have to on that big boy pants and show her that her trust and if she doesn't no but you're

Brian Atlasif she's like a super liberal feminist woman and you spend $5 at sweet baby what is it I don't know sweet baby okay I don't know what it's called Uh you think that's all of a

Brian Atlassudden going to undo the like years of programming and wiring that makes her like a independent Boss B feminist woman

Graci MonataBOS dayos day no but I feel like it comes with just experiences like like I said I've been on the sushi date which you know didn't go well but then I've also been on like a Cheesecake Factory

Graci Monataday and like you know that's fine and he paid for everything and he had no no problem doing that and so I would just personally want to lean towards that and not the dude who made me pay for everything you know okay that's fair

Saia Bellathat's fair um hold on oh there was a chat but I totally missed it that's too bad actually it comes down to like who who's asked the other one on the de though true true because it's like them

Brian Atlasinsinuating it's them that's asking for your time if that makes sense true well but hold on going going around the table more often than not of all the First Dates you've gone on who's initiated it

Saia Bellastarting with you Cindy go ahead you were the guy most of it's guys most of it boys but for you mostly you initiating as compared to like girls asking you out yeah of course it's

Brian Atlasnormal for guys what about you yeah the guy the dude yeah only the guy only the guy have uh go ahead the guy yeah yeah guys same have any of you like never asked out a guy show hands if you say

Monaelike act out like you like take them out like personally no I'm talking first date so obviously if you got a boyfriend you're like hey babe you want to go get dinner like never inated should go first first date I had ayf yeah but

Brian Atlasno yeah first date initiating who's initiated the first date chove hands God damn okay that's okay Sy that's it no I have oh you have I have as well well yeah but I so I I hear what you're saying it kind of like

Brian Atlasit makes sense well whoever asks should pay but it does kind of ignore the fact that overwhelmingly there's a burden on men to be the ones to ask because it would make sense to for this to be the

Brian Atlasstandard if women initiated at comparable levels oh well okay men ask Sometimes women ask sometimes but women overwhelmingly never initiate and if

Brian Atlasmen's if men's standard was well I'm just going to wait for women to ask me out on dates the same way that uh the same way that uh women will can Will and

Brian Atlascan just wait for men to ask them out there's there's really never a burden on women to ever take initiative when it comes to dating because men will just come to you now might not be at the

Brian Atlasfrequency or the choices of your desire but uh it does kind of ignore this fact so uh is there anything else I forgot no no oh we're going to do a chat okay we

Cindy Zanggot jerk off jugnot uh Cindy read this for me please so I was incapable of getting through the last episode with Cindy and

Cindy ZangBri as guest but Cindy what happened the neck cross tap question mark did you convert to from Christianity question

Cindy Zangmark are you not that convicted to the word of Christ I'm not judging as um no Godly wannabe jerk off Juggernaut juggernaut

Cindy Zangfor the $100 Super Chat that's a question for you Cindy go ahead so I had to get it lasered cuz I realized like the diameter of the Cross

Brian Atlaswas was like kind of crooked you you got it lasered off yeah bro Cindy you admitted at the end of the show that that it was a fake tattoo it took it took a bit of time but you you mean you

Brian Atlaslasered off the totally not fake tattoo it was it was real so I had to like laser it off Cindy you literally aded we can pull up the receipts you admitted on the show it was fake that's why I couldn't come in you know are you

Brian Atlasnot listening to anything I'm saying you literally admitted you admitted on the show no it was it was um all right thank you ful appreciate it appreciate it dude uh hold on why is my chat not popping up

Brian Atlasone sec guys there's a little there's a little thing here uh I do want to ask just kind of a general question for the whole panel real quick uh turn your phone off yeah by the way we're going to we're

Brian Atlasto get Andrew at 6:30 guys Andrew uh ran into a little thing he will be joining us at around I think he said 6:30 so well so in 30 minutes it's 30

Brian Atlasminutes uh no or actually fine guys go to twitch.tv whatever if you're watching over there drops a follow drops a prime sub if you're watching on YouTube twitch.tv/ whatever drops a follow and a prime sub if you have one thank you guys

Brian Atlasappreciate it so quick question for the panel general question and we'll start with uh Cindy what are some things that guys do dating related that annoy you

Cindy Zangstarting with you Cindy some things that guys yeah if you have just one thing that's fine um oh there's like a lot of things okay give us two let's start with

Brian Atlastwo leading I would say like leading me on a leading you on yeah as in like they're saying they want something serious a relationship and then they they kind of like have sexual

Cindy Zangintercourse and yeah like they would like just want to like sleep with you and not really take it as serious as like you want it to be

Cindy Zangand okaying on kind like that but I don't know there's like cheaters cheaters we don't like those there's

Brian Atlascheaters you on um I don't know they're just I don't know they're not suppor so what's what's give give us one example of a time a guy

Cindy ZangLED you on okay um like they would say that they're talking to only me but then like I find

Cindy Zangout like they're talking to like other multiple women and so like they're like calling me like baby and like just like very like sensual stuff you would say to

Cindy Zangsomeone intimate that you like and sure when I see that he's like interested or hanging out with other girls it's like it's clearly showing like you don't really like want a relationship you just

Cindy Zanglike want to sleep with me or like do something sexual with me and okay yeah I don't know like

Brian Atlasthat's where my trust issue comes from okay so and so how early on is this happening after you sleep with them before you

Cindy Zangsleep them um be I would say sometimes before when I get like

Cindy Zangcatch on so I don't like pursue them in that way and sometimes after Okay Sophia what about you what is uh something dating

Saia Bellarelated uh that annoys you perhaps not with your current boyfriend but like back when you were single like mannerism mannerisms yeah so like not saying please thank you

Saia Bellaum like people who are just rude to like waitresses and stuff okay that's a bit of

Brian Atlasack um obviously cheating cheating okay lion lion um yeah

Brian Atlasokay uh bivo uh what about Annoying uh for like annoying things from uh on the girls end when it came to dating again just getting lied to yeah um whether

Brandon 'Bivo' Beusyou're getting used again like when you've got say clout or that stature of followers um you don't know what the reason is or they hear for that or I

Brandon 'Bivo' Beushere for you um yeah just just and and being led on again are I here for you or I here for that so just find I'm genuine it's just looking for you know so was it I I saw something in the chat there was

Brian Atlassomething about like prior to you meeting Sophia there was like you were dating a girl and she just broke your heart I don't know if you want to share that story like

Brandon 'Bivo' BeusI got used I'll be real in it um she lived big up C Island that's where I'm from in England um so yeah she lived in canvi s island um we've like yeah she

Brandon 'Bivo' Beusused to do Tik Tok lives I've done Tik Tok um Tik Tok was P more money got in contact with her I was like look get on these minute long videos and I was like we was out one night and I was pissed I was like look should we uh should I put turkey out let's go turkey and get some

Brandon 'Bivo' Beuscontent and I feel like we weren't really officially scared it's more spending time with that one person for a long time then you sort of say oh are we a thing oh yeah yeah okay yeah no wores

Brandon 'Bivo' Beusum and then yeah we just started doing videos content um yeah and then it just got a bit toxic she she got a bit too like she wouldn't even open doors herself she was like oh yes I've got

Brandon 'Bivo' Beusthis and she's gaining followers and using me and for for them numbers and she wouldn't even open doors she wanted me to do this this and this i f oh that you've changed you know so come to a point where it was over and then yeah I

Brandon 'Bivo' Beusmet uh I met fear and I just lived life so when you say wouldn't open doors like you mean literally yeah literally like she she was too good for that you know like she she thought she was better than

Brandon 'Bivo' Beusshe was Burnie M she come from a council estate flat and was making probably £100 pound a week just paying her rent when where she was making when she was me like making five to six CES from Tik Tok

Brandon 'Bivo' BeusAlone um so yeah it got to her head a bit and again when people say the clout gets F's heads it got to her head where I had a big dip like I blew up and then fell off and then blew up again I've s of learned but now when you get a random

Brandon 'Bivo' Beusperson with all this CL it does play with people's minds you know wait so she would like when with the not opening door thing yeah he going to CoStar Canon CoStar remember just have to fall like follow behind somebody and she she's

Brandon 'Bivo' Beushalf the girl what a is and it just shows that people do it does go to the head of it you know so it's was it like a germaphobe thing she didn't want to touch no not even again she just got too big for a boats storms all right okay

Monaethat's interesting uh what about you something that dating related guys do that's just annoying um like I feel like mine is like cheating like lying um like

Monaeaccusing me of doing stuff all the time like I just hate that like I can't ever go nowhere without you just being like Oh like who are you with like you know just overdoing it I feel like

Graci Monataoverbearing MH okay what about you I think being Le on because that has been that has happened and it's it's not fun it's not and it's like why are you

Graci Monatayou're wasting your time too leading on and it's like well it depends cuz most times it depends because most times guys just want you know one thing and not

Graci Monataalways but I let car I let you carry them but not always no yeah but like in my cases at least in my personal experience you can tell and they make it very apparent since the GetGo and if you're just if you're just searching for

Graci Monatathat then it's like then you're wasting your time and you're wasting my time and I don't like that I don't like wasting my time wait you think so do you think most men men just want one thing no no not most men but a lot of men at least here in cinar I'll give you most I'll

Graci Monatagive you most but I mean like just in especially at UCSB especially here okay yeah and so like when when you say

Graci Monataleading you on do you mean that like like like they have multiple options and multiple options in the sense where it's we've made it apparent kind of that

Graci Monatawe're a thing but then kind of like zindy said like you see them out with a entirely different person making out with them one night and it's like like I thought you said you were getting ice

Graci Monatacream like and you're at the same party right right and I'm just like that's crazy it's crazy to me okay leading you on what about you um from personal

Alexexperience pressure like guys really forcing stuff and then you have to be like no but like I'd say that I have a pretty good head on my shoulders so I like make it like clear like no will not

Alexdo this with you like you're talk get to know you yeah like they want to hook up well yeah I also um I didn't have my first kiss until January with that guy because I was waiting for it to like be with like

Alexsomeone that I actually knew that I really liked cuz it's hard to find that here do you do you regret it though cuz you're not with him now no he we had a really good experience like it was it was a really good see I'm like a

Alexhopeless romantic okay so I feel like I had a really good like Movie experience for my first kiss so it felt like really good and it was in the rain so like that's all I need to say it was really

Brian Atlasgood but yeah wait it was in the I skating rink no it was in the rain it was raining I heard rink I was like okay that's such a movie Rong I know that's what exactly how I wanted it to be okay

Cinderellaso all right uh what about you um me I feel like just like not being straight up with what you what what they want and then just having us like go through Loops of figuring it out having to act a

Brian Atlascertain way when I don't really know what we're doing you know mhm wait I uh Cinder right Cinder yeah you can call me Cinder Cinder I saw on your Instagram bio kind of just unrelated to this you

Cinderelladescribe yourself as a five-star girl and then you have the is it the Nigerian F yes I am Nigerian I was actually born there oh you're born there okay so five what is a five star girl um me I like to I like to like associate myself I

Cinderellaactually have a a star tattoo right here ever since I was younger I kind of had a thing with stars so I kind of just use it as like my path of life just like shoot shoot higher than what I think I

Cinderellacan do you know I love that it's like your signature symbol yeah like my signature thing that I try to like associate myself with just so I just want to be like the highest that I can be and I want to show that like the

Jellepeople I meet and how I how I put myself out there okay what about you I'm going off of her like not being able to answer like straightforward questions like what do you want what are you looking for it's so annoying when they can't even

Michaelalike make up their mind be like H I don't know like uh uh and just like bro come on okay what about you um I would say like uh I either one going too fast or going

Michaelatoo slow like you have to find that nice medium if you're going too fast it's like like slow down like we need to take some time but then if you're going too slow it's like why aren't you pursuing me so actually go coming to you Michaela

Brian Atlasand I'll get into I I wrote down some of your guys' answers to that we'll get into it later Michaela so you're married you've been dating your husband since you were what 19 is that correct you've been together five years married 18 months you said you're conservative now

Brian Atlasbut you've not always been so did you used to be more on the liberal side more feminist yeah absolutely okay and you did say that you uh let's see you disagreed on something actually before

Brian Atlaswe get into that can you tell us about the Purity culture the Purity culture thing you said TR you went to a true love weights Camp yes what was that so

Michaelaum yeah when I was like 13 14 I'm not sure which one um my parents they took me to a like this Camp called true love weights and they went with me um and we had to sit through like

Michaelaconferences Friday through Sunday of um married couples talking about how um sex before marriage ruined them and how it yeah it was a really it was a really

Michaelainteresting Camp it talked about like pornography and how that ruined marriages at 13 at 13 and um yeah I mean at that Point yeah at that point I was I mean

Michaelavery obviously grew up in a very sheltered home so that was like like uh a fire hose of information that I did not understand um and so yeah at the end

Michaelaof the weekend they took us on in front of like the congregation the church congregation and had us bestow like a ring on our finger and and vow to not have sex before marriage like a purity

Michaelaring like Disney stars yes and um my our parents there too so be you know parents you Pastor God right there um yeah and

Michaelavowed uh to never have sex before marriage at 13 it's kind of crazy 13 yeah and my parents are so well intentioned wait so and and I'm assuming you didn't like you waited you did wait

Michaelauntil marriage I would say I did not like I did not make that oh okay so the camp didn't work no it didn't it didn't it actually it it made

Michaelait way worse so they're all talking about Chastity celibacy and then it just yeah well probably because it told you more about told me things I had no idea I mean like not to get into like

Michaelatoo much of it but like I I kind of went through puberty late I'm kind of a tiny person so like I went through puberty very late so I was already before I was even like getting into this like like what is this thing simultaneously my mom

Michaelawas a surrogate so I didn't even know what like sex was because I thought that surrogacy um was how you had babies surate like

Michaelayou yeah my so okay sorry I'm my mom had me um but my mom had uh three or four other babies for other families while I was growing up oh [ __ ] yeah damn uh one

Michaelawas twins so three times she had babies for other families okay interesting are you only child no uh I have I have three siblings okay I see okay cuz here in your notse

Brian Atlasgoing back to the camp thing true love lights you said it conf confused you a lot for many years as a teenager you definitely made mistakes because of it okay so moving on into some of my other

Brian Atlasactually wait hold on I'll come back to some of the that other stuff uh let's see she's not here we have graia is that you Grace yeah you can call me Grace

Brian AtlasGrace okay gra oh okay you said uh hold on you just got out of a one and a half year relationship but four months ago right yeah that was four months ago you

Graci Monatasaid did you already tell the story about the crazy helicopter mother um well there's a LW she was the helicopter Mom since the beginning to be honest but but like it just depends because like

Brian Atlasyeah out of respect out of like both of them I mean she treated me a certain way for you know we'll we'll come back to that a little bit later but I have two chats I

Brian Atlasneed to read Catholic Commando uh oh this is uh Jewish girl please please never change make some guy happy there's at least 10% of guys that will be worth

Brian Atlasto wait you have time to wait thank you Catholic Commando there you go and then we have coming in oh grid One

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Brian Atlassoon I count Andrew as a friend yo grid one thank you man really appreciate uh you tuning in and your uh message thank you man appreciate it yeah I think 10

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Brandon 'Bivo' Beusno he poly D it's like this old MTV show is like reality show that Jersey Jersey sh you got wait I know you Jordy you got the Jordy sh right she's like from that

Brandon 'Bivo' Beusway but I'm from um what's it yny wi essic I'm I'm more of that way like jery S6 and all that lot so yo FPS thank you for the gift I L my teeth big got the wet th there you go there you go uh hold

Brian Atlason here before I have uh I needed to go over one thing let's see actually here really quick with uh Grace what so there's the crazy

Brian Atlashelicopter mom there's something about iPad nudes oh God iPad nudes and then hiding sex from parents was that the same all the same mom um yeah it was why don't you tell us that story I got to

Graci Monataget up really quick we're going to start tuning Andrew in who's the helicopter mom like who is who is she like who yeah she was my ex's

Graci Monatamom like oh okay yeah okay yeah and well it it all like just kind of unraveled as the relationship went on um I believe like well we started dating the

Graci Monatabeginning like the beginning of our senior year and it was nice because we did all like our little fun senior activities together and he also like I can't say he did any wrong too because I

Graci Monatamean like we all you know live and learn but the mom was the one who was constantly checking his iPad and it was her work iPad before but he had used it because he was going to we were going to

Graci Monatago to UCSB and he was going to use it for college so he started using it during the summer and she found your NES gosh she was looking through his

Graci MonataiPad and and I mean we had been already dating for maybe 11 months and I really felt like super locked in we both said we were each other's person M um we were

Graci Monataeach other's first you know we did we were kind of waiting um but we just waited for I guess one another and I feel like we had a good um basis of a friendship beforehand too so I feel like

Graci Monatayeah like I felt that he was the one um so I was really really you know I guess open to like I'm not I'm going to please my man you know and if he wants pictures then I'm going to send it to him and she

Graci Monatasaw them and I was like I just got a call um I was with my best friend that day and I just got a call from my boyfriend saying like or from my ex like Grace like you need to you need to like

Graci Monatajust not be on your phone right now like like my mom's really mad at me like I'm sorry this is like the only call I'm going to give you right now um probably until like the rest of the week and I was like I was like what the heck like you just caught me off so guard like

Graci Monatalike what is happening right now and I was like how long in the relationship did it h did that that situation happen um like like 11 12 months right yeah we were dating for like 11 months no like

Graci Monatathat situation that did that did she find out like at the 11th month or in the middle she found out in the middle like around the fourth month okay and okay so you she allowed you guys to

Graci Monatacontinue your relationship she allowed us yeah she did and that was we talked and that's what I was going to go into like we talked and I thought things were

Graci Monatagood at least you know but then like whenever I would go over there would just be you know mean looks or you know like oh you're not allowed to close the

Graci Monatadoor in the room and like I understand that you know courtesy and rules um but at this point we're college students and it's like I understand we're living in your house but I'm just going to leave

Graci Monatalike I would rather not be here and during this like 2 months after so during the 6 months I think that's when things really started to just kind of go downhill um but we stuck with one another and that was like the good thing

Graci Monatayou know we wanted to be there for one another but the mom just consistently was trying to like I guess find ways um or S like that's what it felt like because I was really trying my hardest

Jelleto I have a question for you do you feel like he enabled her behavior for like being a passive aggressive and like being that sort of helicopter mom yeah

Graci Monataand that's why I left him because because for so long I was with him and maybe once or twice he only defended me out of you know the hundreds of arguments that we had because of his mom

Graci Monataoh I see and in that case it's like I'm your girlfriend and I've been here and you know like I understand you know like that's his mother you know the motherly love is always going to be there is this the mommy issue guy yeah yeah this is

Michaelaall the same this is all the same dude yeah this is all the same dude so about like the hiding sex from parents were you kind of just talking about his

Graci Monataparents or um yeah because we okay so we had sex the first night which is kind of ironic but that you guys met no not that

Graci Monatawe met but like our first night night of um like our first date and we weren't we weren't explicitly you know a relationship how long was the talking stage um probably like four or five

Graci Monatamonths four four to five months and he finally brought you on a date well not four cuz we started off as friends right started off as friends yeah and I feel like we had class together too so we were just you know being flirty and you

Cindy Zangknow like you and then he finally and then he was like ra fifth month he's like I'm going to pull out my R today well I was also like we were both like out to Sushi no no no she's taking him

Graci Monataout to Sushi oh you took out no was this the chipot the you paid for two two dates too yeah girl you shouldn't have never did that yeah but I mean I feel

Graci Monatalike he had he had definitely had his first love already so I definitely wasn't his first but he was definitely mine and I can say that because like it's true he already had his first and he didn't know that he was supposed to

Graci Monatapay well his first like yeah right he was like oh that's so nice like no girl has ever done that for me I was like I don't I or maybe maybe he thought like you know the the girl that he lost his

Graci Monatavirginity to he might have consider her oh no he he lost his virginity to me but he was literally like in love with them in love with wait wait I'm he lost his virginity to you said but you didn't you

Graci Monatadidn't lose no I did I we oh it was wait wait you said that he had his first love already yeah without like lowkey cuz I mean who was he in love without without he was in love with his his situation

Graci Monatawait he didn't shagger what he didn't shagger no that's not I mean I feel like that's just young how can you fall in love for you don't know what being in love is that's so true that's so true but I feel like in the context in which

Graci Monatawe were like dating I just or maybe I don't know that was also my first you know long-term relationship and you know like I said like I wanted to provide for him cuz I

Graci Monatareally did like him and was the sex good yeah it was I feel that's I couldn't leave but it's okay did did he have a father as well or yes he did and

Graci Monatahonestly I really did his his dad was he treated me super well um and like after in the sixth month actually too she said that I was not allowed ever again in the

Graci Monatahome and so she didn't support your relationship the dad did the dad did did he have a good relationship with his dad yeah honestly he had he had a pretty good relationship with his dad um and

Brian Atlasthe one who he would bump heads with most was were they married or divorced um they're married yeah they're married yeah I'm going to shift gears here a little bit we're going to get Andrew called in in about 5 10 minutes we're going to do two

Brian Atlasthings we're going to do the Bumble segment and then we're going to do the uh yeah we're going to do this Reddit thing uh so there's a Reddit question

Brian Atlasthat's kind of this is a bit more light fun question Nick go ahead pull it up all right what is the worst thing someone has said to you during sex um so I'm going to read this Reddit submission and then you guys can start

Brian Atlasthinking about so actually Cindy you read

Cindy Zangit you want me to read like the whole highlighted yeah the whole Yellow Part okay not me but an old friend of mine

Brian Atlasreally quiet softspoken polite guy Nick scroll up Scroll up please please please Nick scroll up Scroll up Scroll up Scroll up Scroll up Scroll here I just like try to show it as is reading it

Cindy Zangokay go ahead do you think I'm like dyslexic or something no just go ahead people read faster than you and they're going to get to the punchline before you say it a total gentleman and a graduate student

Cindy Zangin the liberal arts also pretty inexperience sensitive and vanilla sexually he's dating this really cool girl for maybe 2 months she is much kinkier in bed she floats the idea of

Cindy Zangdirty talk and apparently likes to be objectified from time to time he's hesitant but wants to please her and doesn't dismiss the idea outright

Cindy Zangchanges the subject and figures that they'll revisit the idea another time anyway they have sex a few days later for the first time since the

Cindy Zangconversation really going at a doggy style and she tells him to talk dirty to her he says that he can he can't think of anything

Cindy Zangto say so he says nothing and she then repeats the request but the second time she is not [ __ ]

Cindy Zangrequesting but demanding it he comes up with yeah you like that [ __ ]

Cindy Zang[ __ ] keep going keep going he's never stuck me as one of one for embellishment so I believed him he said that was it for sex

Cindy Zangthat night although they are still together 2 years on no all right so did you want me to did you want hear that that yeah that was good good job Cindy

Brian AtlasI'm proud of you so the question is wait pull it pull it up one more time this guy's a legend by the way uh what is the worst thing someone has said to you

Brian Atlasduring sex so Cindy will start with you [Music]

Cindy Zangum uh okay you got you put me on a spot you put me on the spot the worst thing someone said yeah it could be like something funny or strange or killed the

Saia Bellamood uh sorry I really don't know it's okay we here we'll come back to you being called someone else's name a guy what did it what was the name

Brian AtlasAbby Abby what about uh what about you getting called Beaver be beaver bivo oh bivo you got my that's your like Tik Tok content creation name name yeah so so

Brandon 'Bivo' Beusdid it kill the mood yeah it's just like I'm not be I'm Brandon so yeah it's like a fan it was a fan I don't know okay but they called

Graci Monatayou probably yeah prob probably okay nothing for me never nothing weird soon yeah I don't think so to be honest nothing nothing weird if I went mommy no

Brian Atlasm yeah it would be over after that say bad actually this this is a question I don't think I've ever asked this on the show cuz I think it's actually the case for like some people I know some of you are on the younger side you've actually

Brian Atlasnever really encountered somebody who even I've heard from girls some guys are just super quiet don't say anything or you just you don't do dirty talk they don't do any dirty talk so I mean maybe it's just been the case that you've not

Graci Monataeven encountered a guy who talks at all no I definitely have but I I feel like usually they just say like the same thing like oh like you they just say the same thing like what what what do you mean they all say the same

Graci Monata[ __ ] feel good like like how do I feel and I'm just like okay like okay oh so that's was that weird for you though it's just like I mean just do your thing you know like and then talk to me dirty

Brian Atlaslike [ __ ] me Daddy okay okay uh well you're obvious virgin so you did have something I I'll

Brian Atlasgive you a little bit of a Lifeline here I think you had a a story with a 66 a 6'6 shrimp kisser yeah no not shrimp

Alexkisser this guy um it was my senior year of high school on Thanksgiving break and him and I went on a date to a nice

AlexItalian restaurant which he paid for um and basically he ordered a shrimp pasta and it was like spaghetti so it was flying everywhere when he was slurping

Alexit and and the spaghetti was going everywhere like the sauce was crazy guys it was crazy crazy and he goes to bite into the shrimp but he eats like he puts

Alexit all in his mouth and I hear a crunch and that was the tail so I look at him and he's like um I accidentally ate the tail digs into his mouth sets it on his

Alexplate and continues eating um and I just thought that was really interesting because I don't know I feel like the manners could have been there and he wasn't using an app so he was just going like this the whole night and then I

Alexfinally had to say are you going to use a napkin and he was like oh yeah you're smart for that like okay didn't know that that was not something that everyone did but yeah might made him

Alexnervous I don't think so I honestly think he was quite confident but I mean maybe too that could be but from what I saw he was quite confident with his meal eating and and then he tried to what oh

Alexyeah so then we get into the car also I drove because he had gotten his car taken away now I don't care if a guy doesn't have a car but as a teenager if you get your car taken away for he got it for hot boxing before school and he

Alexgot pulled over I don't know I just think that's like not right priorities at the moment so um so I had to pick him up and he was like in the car and we're driving back to the town that he lives

Alexin and he was like do you want to make out and I was like oh no especially not after your shrimp but yeah is that what you said no I didn't say that you said you said he had gross Saucy shrimp mouth

Graci Monatayes and you freaked out it was all over his mouth that's disgusting and he wanted to even after that's crazy I don't think he saw himself after but didn't Po in you didn't you didn't tell him something like like oh you got to

Brian Atlaslittle something there like I don't know I I just didn't think the moment was right anymore I just wasn't having an En joyful time Cinder moving on to you yeah you don't have to skip me I don't know you got

Brian Atlasnothing what was the question again uh what was it like uh weirdest thing somebody said to you in in bed or something wor worse thing um could be funny it could be honestly no but I think there was one time where like

Jellesomeone got really insecure cuz I started laughing like in the middle of it and he was like why are you laughing I'm like well because it [ __ ] tickles

Jellelike I what do you mean yeah tickles where well cuz we were using a TI [ __ ] it was like yeah where's the tickling

Jellehuh the especially like after you're like and you're using a toy okay that's fair okay vibration I could see that um anything

Cindy Zangever not quite yet anything for you no Cindy anything for you I got a few what's up what you got Cindy can I fill you up baby oh wait you said that or the he

Cindy Zangsaid that he said that can I F you that's quite h l finish it's not that bad that's all I got that's all you got I mean I got more but

Brian Atlasokay the thing that killed the mood for half these girls was when he said my card declined will you take a check dude should never be in the mood no man

Brian Atlasshould be able to ask him how's my blank taste W wait what's this in respon that thing that killed the mood for half these was dude should have never dude

Brian Atlasshould never be in the mood okay thank you thank you good one say that I'm we didn't even get it like uh so I I had a couple weird encounters

Brian Atlaslike I had a girl um she wanted be like and listen I'm I'm pretty open-minded you know like if if it turns you on let's do it [ __ ] it but it was kind of threw me off she was like wanted to like

Brian Atlasmeow and [ __ ] oh no I was like oh like but she want to be like not just like meow but full on cat [ __ ] and was she like a furry or no she was she wasn't a furry but she wanted to do like a like a

Brian Atlaslegit full-on role playay like cat role play got meow for me baby would you also be a cat no like I I would just be the owner so she would just be the cat she would be the cat and like

Brian Atlaspurring and like [ __ ] on you and I was like that's all I can do about I know this was it was like the first time too like what it was the first it was the first time too I feel like you got like

Brian Atlaskind of build up to that no at least she was being her true authentic self yeah I like you got but she could have waited though and actually I would have been down but there's some other weird

Brian Atlasthings like so that I I wouldn't like if you know I I'm open-minded but it definitely threw me off I'm crying yeah she's like spazzing out too so anyways um trying to think if

Graci Monatathere's anything else that weird and [ __ ] that happened uh girl told me to like punch her in the face but I didn't do that what yeah she wanted to beot people like Mone some people really like the violence

Brian Atlaslike slap no she was like hit me in the [ __ ] face I'm like I'm good I'mma pass on that you do you have a word for that or for punching I I don't no CU we call it

Brian Atlasdonkey punching yeah I've I've heard of that but uh yeah she wanted to be hit Donkey Punch what the hu is that you're smashing

Brian Atlasit not my thing we're going to uh let me see if Andrew's ready to go I think he might be I love the term though all right Andrew's ready we're going to get him called in here in just

Brian Atlasa sec while we're backup ready to go uh so we're going to get him all set up uh yeah he's probably going to have some thoughts on some of the things you guys have said

Brian Atlasbut uh we're going to do the Bumble segment do is it going to be too complicated to do it while we're getting Andrew set up bum okay so here I'm gonna have Maddie take over for a second

Brian AtlasMaddie why don't you uh why don't you ask I know a question and then uh we'll

Michaelakeep a fun question um so we have one virgin at the table right is anybody else a virgin no but I want to

Michaelabe I'm not going to really disclose what's everybody's body count I guess we could start with the man at the table if you're willing to

Michaelashare I don't I don't keep count lost count what about like a range Ball Park yeah ballpark range ah we would you say like triple digits no no very be stupid no no trip

Brandon 'Bivo' Beuswe're we're below 20 that's what below 20 below 20 yeah okay I guess we'll just go that

Saia Bellaway no comment range above one less than 30 okay less than

Saia Bella30 um no comment as well double digits double digits okay yeah no comment no comment but single digits

Cinderellayeah's yeah I'm not going to be talking about my nothing about that sorry you can give a range if you want to nothing you say like below 10 no it's just

Background/minornothing yeah uh three three yeah one that matters that's real though that's real Andrew can hear us Andrew can you hear

Cinderellaus oh is that him yeah I can hear you fine oh I'm thinking that's okay all

Andrew Wilsonright yo Andrew welcome welcome good to have you uh joining us here so thanks I'm sorry uh sorry to the audience that I'm late I had some family business I had to attend so um appreciate you

Brian Atlasletting me sneak back in the panel though a little better late than never right yeah well thank you for uh making it man I hope everything uh worked out okay so uh Andrew uh really quick since you're just joining us now you want to give us a quick

Andrew Wilsonintroduction yeah my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible fastest growing debate channel on the internet I'm a political saturnist and I'm also a political analyst and I also

Brian Atlasdo um political debates um I guess semi-professionally for living at this point so that's who I am all right good to have you uh joining us Andrew and uh

Brian AtlasI'm trying to think where we start off I think the first point I wanted to uh start off is uh Cindy so Cindy um she uh

Brian Atlasshe's Christian you're Christian right Cindy yes I am now she claims on the her previous appearance uh you had a did you dress up too were you dressed up in the

Brian Atlascostume no Dred up it was just the tattoo right you had the fake tattoo yeah so Andrew Cindy had and she frequently wears a cross uh although not

Cindy Zangtoday it was broken actually should we let me let me check your Instagram really quick but while I was making content it broke it broke apart

Cindy Zangthe sorry Andrew could you repeat the question yeah what what kind of content were you making I was just making um Regular you know work their

Brian Atlascontent Nick could you pull up Cindy's Instagram really quick and you also last show Andrew she was trolling us she got this like terrible

Brian Atlasfake black tattoo uh laser it off yeah you lasered it off in like two months she had a giant Cross actually Nick why don't you pull up that Instagram I'm going to find that one for

Brian Atlasyou and you can uh I got the in you got the insta we're also going to find I'm going to find the actual episode so I

Brian Atlascan actually show you the hold on it was I think that was the first appearance with Bri was the one yeah

Brian Atlasthis is the one I'm going to send it to you in the private chat okay Nick just so Andrew can see it first we're going to look at her Instagram Nick if you can pull up her

Brian AtlasInstagram yeah so for the those who don't know Andrew is a uh you bad

Brian Atlasgirl bad girl that's fine it's fine there uh so Andrew is an Orthodox Christian now Cindy you do what's an orthodox well I'll let Andrew answer

Brian Atlasthat but in your Instagram and it says God first you wear you frequently wear your in your P profile picture you have

Brian Atlasa cross on you frequently wear a cross uh and then just below it is a link to your website which then goes off and

Brian Atlaslinks to your only fans where you produce pornographic content uh Andrew had some thoughts on this both on the fact that you wear a cross that you're linking to pornographic content in your

Brian Atlasbio and just above it it says God first and then uh the whole fake cross on your neck thing uh oh really quick actually so there's three things there for you to react to Andrew Nick could you pull up

Brian Atlasthe uh the video and just scrub to a point visible in the Stream where uh you don't have to play it we can just do a paused

Brian Atlasscreen grab where it's like more so visible from Cindy probably during the intros or

Brian Atlassomething while we're waiting for that guys like the video for you're watching on YouTube drop us a like and then twitch.tv/ whatever if you're watching

Brian Atlason Twitch drop us a follow on Twitch yeah all right so it's a little hard to see here there it goes there's uh uh so

Brian Atlasyou got this terrible fake cross tattooed on your neck uh right right on the throat yeah right

Cindy Zangon the throat didn't you make some statements about like throat goat I give good head she gives good head period do you give good head uh what do you mean

Brian Atlasdo you give good H licky licky sloppy toppy Oh I thought you were trying to like inate like I sing the D no I uh I don't do that at all oh you don't go

Brian Atlasahead you want the whole world to know that yeah I've said it multiple times on the show there's better ways to make a girl come to be honest so you don't want to give head no I don't do it but my if I mean if we're

Brian Atlasgetting into sexual conversation uh yeah I want I'm going to make my girl come before me and preferably multiple times but I'm not do I'm not a fan of giving head cheers to that why

Brian Atlascheers okay well hold on you're deflecting a little bit here Cindy I can get into that later I think Andrew is curious to learn a bit more about

Andrew Wilsonum the cross your thoughts yeah so yeah so just to kind of dive in what was the deal with the cross on the

Cindy Zangthroat cuz I wore a cross necklace on my throat no the T the fake tattoo the T the black tattoo yeah I wanted to

Andrew Wilsonget AC cross tattoo so I was like you know seeing what it would looked like I didn't like it so I got rid of it oh okay okay well I'm just I'm just

Andrew WilsonI'm just trying to figure this out right I just joined so just bear with me I'm just trying to kind of kind of under like understand the mindset and this type of thing so uh you do identify

Andrew Wilsonyourself as a as a Christian that is correct right yeah I love God okay okay okay and what what kind of Christian what denomination do you know

Cindy Zangyou're just non- denominational maybe I love God so not so no denomination like you don't belong to an official Church of any kind what's your what's your

Cindy Zangdefinition of denomination Andrew you belong to a certain certain sect of church so like maybe you're a calvinist or maybe you're a Baptist uh yeah I

Cindy Zangactually was um baptized at St Baptist Church you were baptized at St Baptist Church

Cindy Zangyes I was St Baptist um I have to like really go and like ask someone like what church I got

Cindy Zangbaptized is that like St Baptist II perhaps St Baptist III no ST Baptist I'm not really familiar like the first

Andrew Wilsonsecond third yeah no I I can understand I can understand that yeah yeah so so I just I just have a quick question I think I do remember the episode so in

Andrew Wilsonthis episode Brian asked you if I remember correctly if um if God wanted you to do only fans then what would Satan want you to

Brian Atlasdo to stop doing only fans so do you think that Satan would want you to stop doing only fans that son of a [ __ ] well I think the original

Andrew Wilsonanswer to the question was I I forgot exactly the framing of the question I mean that's fine right so I mean do you think though that Satan is the one who

Brian Atlaswould want you to stop doing only fans yeah no she said originally God wants her to be doing only fans and then and Satan would be the one who wanted her to stop doing only fans to tell her

Andrew Wilsonyeah that's what she just said now she just said the same thing she said Satan would want her to stop doing only fans no she wait hold on yes sorry sorry I'm getting okay go ahead go ahead go ahead yeah it's all good Brian it's all good

Brian Atlaswait Andrew just combobulated today yeah it's it's been a hectic day wait Andrew are you able to tune up the light a little bit on your camera or is it too much yeah I can turn it up a little bit

Andrew Wilsonhang on uh go ahead Cindy there you go so yeah so um so so you think that Satan would prefer that you um that you gave

Cindy Zangup the old only fans yes he would tell me he would tell me to stop yeah why do you think he'd want you to

Andrew Wilsonstop because I love making I love making sexual content and money yeah yeah that I mean that makes sense do you think that God would his

Andrew Wilsonpreference would be that you continued to make sexual content on your only fans and in order to keep the devil away right the the devil is the one who would

Andrew Wilsonhave the preference that uh that you stopped making the self-indulgent sexual content that you're making I just want to make sure I got this clear yes he wants me to do it I he God wants

Andrew Wilsonyou yeah do you have visions does has God come to you in a dream and told you perhaps that only to him and he tells me yes keep doing what you do girl what are you what are you talking real talk

Cinderellaspeaking like people around us like I get that if you are a good like real Christian that can be a part of your platform but if it's a joke it's like it's a respect thing you

Michaelaknow I've said my peace I have respect you sure you're talking to God from My Religion yeah there I'm just curious how do you know you're talking to God

Cindy Zangright are you convicted by the whole Spirit my relationship with God is different from your relationship because for different people yeah for different

Cinderellapeople that's very valid mhm but it's like it's it comes it comes to the fact that it's like you still it's a respect thing at the end of the day and like yeah people's relationships with God are

Michaeladifferent but seeing it in like in an overall look you know how it comes across you know no I don't do you cuz earlier you were talking about how um

Michaelayou you you would want like sex reserve for marriage right I think I was I did not say that I I'm sorry I I thought we were clarifying at the beginning you don't mind if I just

Andrew Wilsonquickly finish my before we go over to the to the rest of the table if you don't if you don't mind go thank you thank you I appreciate it so does God want you to stick a dick in your mouth is that what God wants you to

Andrew Wilsondo when you talk to God does he say gobble up that dick is that what he says I if it's like a guy that I like and I

Cindy Zangend up part taking sexual yeah the like the guy that my my boyfriend my God tell you to do gang bangs

TTS/Chat readergood cind hey it's Mike Davis put God first put Mike Davis first God may or may not love you but with Mike Davis you're going to win 100% of the time wait hold on I got to give a quick I'll let you get back to it Andrew but I got

Brian Atlasto give a quick quick shout out to Mike Davis we haven't seen him in a while yo MD thank you uh good to see you in the chat dude I hope the Burger King restaurants are doing good for you man over there on the East Coast appreciate

Brian Atlasseeing you back on the show you're a [ __ ] Legend dude and uh you're always welcome here at whatever her I I wish there he is there's the [ __ ] M there he is can we give me some give me some food zoom

Brian Atlasin on that zoom in on this [ __ ] Legend's face remember Cindy look at that's not Mike oh That's Mike mik That's Mike Davis he owns like he owns

Brian Atlaslike over a hundred Burger Kings on the East Coast oh [ __ ] wait you trying to oh no that's hey yo Mike you got you got some prospects you got Prospect what

Graci Monataabout you you like him that's what no but he's handsome Uncle he's G uncle but Mike I mean he can give me some free burgers no is he only handsome because

Andrew Wilsonhe owns out 100 chains or is it he's a good guy he's a good looking guy you know so anyways thank you Mike Davis uh go ahead Andrew please by the way Mike I

Andrew Wilsonjust had Burger King this afternoon so oh [ __ ] keep up keep up the the good work I have noticed so the onion rings are going downhill I'm just I'm just letting you know you like you probably know that though because your franchise

Andrew Wilsonowner but anyway so back to this I just was curious does God want you to engage in gang bangs as he told you when you were dreaming for instance and you had a conversation with god did you say thou

Andrew Wilsonmust goeth and get gang bangth did did did that conversation happen do you think no no so what how of the conversations where God tells you that

Andrew Wilsonyou must have sex with strangers for money how does that occur can you kind like give us an overview of how God Fram has you need to have sex with men for money conversations with you I'd like to hear about

Andrew Wilsonit what is your definition of making money with men you have I'm I'm guessing that you have sexual intercourse with men for the

Andrew Wilsonpurpose of collecting some type of cash right right right okay so that would be my definition you're right so yeah so what so what does God so how does a conversation with god go can you like

Cindy Zanggive us a brief overview well I don't really tell him anything like about my sexual I just tell him like that I'm blessed with the job that I have and you know I appreciate

Andrew Wilsoneverything he's already given to me and but I thought you said God wants you to do this and you've had conversations with him yeah like with like only fans especially like that's like my work I

Cindy Zanghave to had conversations with God about your only fans yeah to prosper and attract abundance and growth with my business

Andrew Wilsonyes so just to to make sure that I'm clear you when you speak to whoever this God is that you're speaking to you don't actually Jesus Christ what's that Jesus

Andrew WilsonChrist Jesus Christ wants you to do only fans work yeah just so that we're clear yes yeah well let me ask you this and just

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