Brian REJECTS Her?! Andrew Wilson FERAL Debate! Born Again Virgins vs. ØF Girls! | Dating Talk #141
Date: 2024-03-06
Duration: 5h 38m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00Britney Crisp(guest)
SPEAKER_01TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_02Claire(guest)
SPEAKER_04Madison(host)
SPEAKER_05Shy Matthews(guest)
SPEAKER_06Jasmine Rose(guest)
SPEAKER_08Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_10Alexis Morgan(guest)
SPEAKER_11Darra(guest)
SPEAKER_13Lexi(guest)
SPEAKER_14Monica(guest)
Key Moments
00:00:21
QuoteBrian Atlas self-identifies as host; notes he's sick and lost his notes.
“I'm your host Brian Atlas... I'm a little sick tonight guys... my Dropbox lost all my notes so it's going to be a scuff stream”
00:02:31
QuoteAndrew Wilson introduces himself as host of The Crucible debate channel.
“my name is Andrew Wilson host of The One and Only Crucible one of the fastest if not the fastest growing debate Channel on YouTube”
00:07:00
ControversyShy Matthews opens by criticizing the show for casting stones at women; Brian pushes back saying those words never left his mouth.
“I think that the point of the show... tends to like cast stones at certain women... as a Christian I feel like that's not what Jesus calls us to do”
00:36:24
QuoteJasmine Rose declares everyone is a 10/10 through spiritual lens, refusing to rate anyone on looks.
“I believe everyone's a 10 out of 10 and your husband or your wife will think so as well because God Hand picked them for you”
00:37:07
Key MomentAndrew Wilson cross-examines Jasmine Rose's claim she has no physical preferences, using Brad Pitt vs Joe Biden comparison.
“if I showed you say a picture of Brad Pit when he was young and and then a picture of Donald Trump currently... would you prefer dating just based off of their level of attractiveness”
00:52:15
Key MomentBrian points out Jasmine Rose's last boyfriend was 6 feet tall despite her claiming no physical preferences.
“how tall was your last boyfriend... six foot... so only 15% of men in this country are 6 foot or taller... maybe it's just happen stance”
04:02:01
QuoteBody count round: Madison (co-host) discloses 100+ body count.
“100 over 100 I don't know but you think it's around 100 probably over 100”
05:01:00
ControversyShy Matthews asks to leave early due to discomfort with explicit sexual content discussion. Brian calls her 'whiny'.
“if this is kind of the rest of the topic I might have nothing to contribute to that and it's not making me comfortable... if I can leave early”
05:02:32
ControversyAndrew Wilson calls Shy Matthews' virtue signaling 'sickening' and calls her 'weak'.
“your virtue signaling is sickening... you need to strengthen your Constitution... weak”
05:24:00
Key MomentBrian rejects Darra's offer to 'smash', citing her sexual history as disqualifying.
“I appreciate the the offer my dear but I must politely turn you down because I just I can't date a woman who's had carnal knowledge”
05:26:00
QuotePanel asks Brian who on the panel he would pick; Brian says Jasmine Rose (Cheyenne) is attractive but her past disqualifies dating.
“Cheyenne's a pleasant person she's very attractive but because of her past indiscretions unfortunately”
05:26:48
Key MomentAndrew says he has more respect for the OF girls than for Shy Matthews, for being honest.
“I have more respect for the girls on the right side of the table because I at least felt like they were trying to be honest”
Topics Discussed
00:00:06
Guest introductions and relationship status
Guests introduce themselves with name/age/occupation/location. Go around table for relationship status and longest relationship.
00:07:00
Christian ethics and show criticism (Shy Matthews)
Shy Matthews critiques the show for 'casting stones'. Andrew Wilson debates her on Protestant theology, Biblical interpretation, and religious hypocrisy.
00:30:03
Self-ratings: wife scale and looks scale
Brian asks each guest to rate themselves on the wife scale (0-10) and then the looks scale. Jasmine Rose refuses citing 'everyone is a 10'. Lengthy debate about subjectivity of ratings.
00:51:00
Born-again virgins vs OnlyFans girls debate
Main debate of episode: religious/celibate guests (Shy, Jasmine) vs OnlyFans guests (Britney, Darra, Alexis). Topics: body count, sexual history, traditionalism.
01:44:00
Darra: nursing career vs OnlyFans
Darra defends her decision to leave nursing (13 years, neonatal ICU) for OnlyFans due to pay/stress. Discussion on nurses as 'red flags' in relationships.
02:00:00
Alexis Morgan: sugar daddies and escorting
Alexis discusses having three sugar daddies, prior escorting career (hundreds of clients), and how she considers the arrangements non-romantic.
04:01:41
Body count round
Brian asks each guest for body count. Results: Britney 100+; Darra ~30-50; Alexis 15 males/~80 females; Jasmine Rose ~hundreds (declined specifics); Shy abstained; Claire ~5-6; Monica 0; Lexi unknown.
04:05:00
Traditionalism debate
Andrew Wilson leads discussion on traditionalism. Multiple OF guests claim to believe in traditional values while acknowledging their careers contradict it.
04:30:00
Pornography, human trafficking, and health impacts
Andrew argues pornography contributes to human trafficking and mental illness. Darra and Alexis push back defending the industry.
05:00:00
Shy Matthews wants to leave early
Shy Matthews, uncomfortable with sexual topic discussion, asks to leave early. Brian tells her she's been 'whiny'. Andrew calls her 'weak'. Other guests critique her constitution.
05:15:00
Pro-life vs pro-choice round
Quick round: positions on abortion. Darra (nurse): pro-life after 4-6 weeks having seen fetuses at 22 weeks. Others mixed.
05:20:00
Birth control and cosmetic surgery discussion
Who's on birth control. Britney discusses breast reduction/lift. Discussion on natural vs surgically altered bodies.
05:24:00
Brian rejects Darra's offer / panel picks
Darra says she'd 'smash' Brian. Brian says he must 'politely turn her down' due to her sexual history. Panel jokes about who Brian would pick. Brian says Cheyenne (Jasmine Rose) is attractive but her past disqualifies her.
05:30:00
Wrap-up and outro
Brian thanks Andrew Wilson and the panel. Apologizes for being sick. Shy and Brian reconcile. Show closes.
Transcript
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02:47:48
Britney Crispmurdering making their bullets do I know that they're using it to murder people know that they're using it to murder then you just make their bullets are you helping and
02:47:59
Andrew Wilsonparticipating in that murder it's part of the process I don't understand is that yes basically yeah yeah yes so how are
02:48:11
Andrew Wilsonyou not doing the exact same thing here in this situ by allowing them to participate in this form of sexual gratification I don't understand that can you same pictures that they
02:48:23
Britney Crispcompliment me on and the same pictures that they travel wild with their fantasies are the same pictures that are on my Instagram they're not getting anything that no one else isn't getting for free they have a choice I'm not forcing them to send money they do it by
02:48:34
TTS/Donationstheir own valtion yeah but so does theer jiam donated $100 no man with any self-respect would commit to a woman who chooses desire as
02:48:46
TTS/Donationsa job imagine a man posting videos of his alcoholic or hard drug Behavior would that make you a Do Better Dig yeah so the qu the question just
02:48:58
Andrew Wilsonjust basically is are you complicit are you complicit just like the bullet maker are you being complicit am I being complicit I'm not are being party to this thing that you
02:49:10
Andrew Wilsonknow is wrong like for instance if somebody else were to come to you if another if a woman came to you and said I'm a Christian woman and this guy wants to pay me money specifically because he fantasizes about having a sexual
02:49:21
TTS/Donationsrelationship would you advise that she do that Mike Davis donated $100 I have no sympathy for a man who wies a hoe wiing any woman is a mistake
02:49:32
TTS/Donationsall the more so a hoe also Brian used this $100 to replace the mic that has to used I see Aid's particles from her mouth oh my God good Lord anyway anyway
02:49:44
Andrew WilsonI'm just I'm just asking Mike what was the question yeah what was the question yeah yeah I'm I'm just asking excuse me if you're complicit if another Christian woman came over and said look I'm I'm
02:49:56
Andrew Wilsontrying to walk the path of Jesus Christ do you would you and and said I have some men who want to send me money so that they can fap to pictures of mine would you recommend that she do that I
02:50:08
Britney Crispwould ask her what are you giving these men that they are sending her money and if she just says I'm just saying good morning and I have friends who have done that I have friends who have men grown men with jobs good paying jobs who
02:50:20
Britney Crispliterally just get satisfaction from sending a young woman money and if this one's like oh I don't send him any pictures I don't do anything sexual exposive he just sends me money we just
02:50:30
Andrew Wilsonhave conversation that's fine what is wrong with that why would Jesus hate that well in this particular case by your own admission you said that these
02:50:40
Andrew Wilsonmen you think are talking to you because they in some form are engaged in Fant FY and they're in well no you literally did I asked why are they sending you money and you said a big component of that is
02:50:52
Andrew Wilsonhow you look of how I look so don't you think it's a little ridiculous to say that they're sending you money specifically and not ugly women why would you think that that would be my pasture because
02:51:05
Britney Crispbecause you just have such a Charming personality or could there be maybe other factors there if they are fapping or doing doing anything with their own two hands that's
02:51:17
Britney Crispfine with them I don't think I'm aiding in that sense because my pictures are on Instagram it's not for something to be paid for it's literally here I'm going to move it on a little bit here so okay
02:51:28
Brian Atlasum just just so we have a bit of a sense of the scope of your Arrangement um you currently have three right now so what what are they doing they're paying you
02:51:39
Britney Crisp500 a a couple times a month what are they do a couple times a month here and there if they're just like how's your day going going I say good morning oh I'm about to get my hair done okay I'll send you 300 oh I want to get my nails
02:51:51
Brian Atlasdone okay I'll send you 100 here's a question for you now you've got three of them currently you will you send each of them the same text saying oh I'm going
02:52:02
Brian Atlasto go get my nails done and are you sort of anticipating that each one of them is going to send you the 300 for your nails has that ever happened wait tell each of them I'm getting my nails
02:52:15
Brian Atlaswell for example let's say you have a $1,000 rent payment a month and you have three sugar daddies if one of those sugar daddies sends you $1,000 for your rent payment would you then go to the
02:52:26
Brian Atlasother two and also say well I have a $1,000 rent payment so in practice you're getting $3,000 and I would do that I would not do that stop the cap
02:52:36
Brian Atlasokay um so what what's the biggest one-time transaction that you've received from
02:52:43
Brian Atlasthem um from one probably 700 $700 yeah have three uh so I'm curious for and we'll do we'll go one by one uh What's
02:52:53
Brian Atlasthe total you've received from all three in one month no no no like total over the course of your arrangement in like like in a year
02:53:05
Brian Atlasprobably or like a month how long you've been involved with them that's a long number just just so one one by one so number one gave me $10,000 number two gave me 50,000 something like that one
02:53:17
Britney Crispprobably gave me close to maybe in the scope of like a year wow well does it just money or cuz they give me jewelry sometimes sure
02:53:29
Britney Crispfactor factor in the fair market factoring the fair market value of the gifts okay I will admit from one I probably got close to like
02:53:40
Britney Crisp15K another one I got close to nothing crazy like two bands mhm and then another one probably around like good for you um I love that I don't
02:53:54
Britney Crispknow like 30,000 30 30,000 not 30,000 oh 3,000 3,000 3,000 to 5,000 okay love that life on easy mode
02:54:05
Brian Atlasum so you you said you had quite a few sugar daddies correct is it possible I don't know are you able to scoot into the table or are you lock out yeah I can Scot
02:54:16
Brian Atlasit all the way so you can get into the mic okay Sor I'm here okay so you did escorting you've had sugar daddies um you said
02:54:28
Brian Atlasfrom the escorting you had over like hundreds of clients over the years yes over the years um what just out of curiosity what would you typically uh
02:54:41
Brian Atlasmake from that h like with each person yeah for onetime engagement I
02:54:50
Jasmine Roseguess um I would say on average, to 1500 on average some were always higher like 5K some were like a
02:55:00
Brian Atlasthousand okay yeah what about the sugar daddies so what what's the and it sounded like you had quite a few how many sugar D do you think you've had
02:55:11
Jasmine Rosedozens hundreds man I I really would say like well I guess sugar daddy in a sense of like just a onetime thing are you including the one ERS too like that I
02:55:23
Brian Atlaswent home with after the club cuz I've had a lot of those wait you mean after the strip club yes you went home with them wouldn't that be escorting though not sugar daddy okay well I suppose you
02:55:34
Brian Atlascould have sex with carinal knowledge with the sugar daddies too although it seems to me like a lot of the a lot of the girls who have sugar daddies actually actually never end up having
02:55:45
Jasmine Rosesex with them so mhm um so you would would you sleep with your sugar daddies so yeah like the first few years
02:55:55
Jasmine RoseI would sleep with every single one and then it's almost like I started to get convicted slowly cuz I called myself a Christian even a few years ago but I was still dancing right so it was it's been
02:56:07
Jasmine Rosea process it didn't happen like overnight um but uh and and I wanted to say that also for her as well like um you know God convicts us all at different times sometimes his hand
02:56:19
Jasmine Roseweighs heavily upon you in a night sometimes it's slowly CU he's a gentle loving father that's how God is you know so I would say to bring it back to the question um you know that there's a lot
02:56:30
Jasmine Roseof Grace you know that he showed me and I uh there was times where I would even evangelize in the club like when I started reading scripture and praying I know it sounds crazy but you know God works in mysterious ways you know and I
02:56:42
Jasmine RoseI've prayed for people in the club some sometimes I wouldn't even like dance for them I just sit and talk with them because these men are hurting you know and I was hurting too that's why I was there so um Satan feeds us lies to where
02:56:53
Jasmine Rosetwo people that are hurting can feed off of each other in a very toxic way and so I would just um you know explain the whole my whole ex lifestyle like that you know whether I was doing videos in
02:57:04
Jasmine Rosethe club 101 um but but yeah so the question um what was the question again sorry I got you hold on
02:57:18
Brian Atlasuh so the question is I'm curious about this kind of the scope of the sugar daddies uh what so let's let me try to be more precise what's the biggest one-time transaction okay that you've ever
02:57:31
Brian Atlashad like in one like a whole night like a guy just sends you oh $10,000 without seeing him in person just online let's do both oh wow okay uh um oh
02:57:47
Alexis Morganman would you consider online people like juicy like this is like interesting question cuz you know what I'm saying like yeah like is a sugar daddy someone in person or virtually they could be both they could be virtually yeah be
02:57:59
Alexis Morganboth some well your only fans I mean only fans is sort of no but when you have a sugar daddy I feel like a sugar daddy is a physical like relationship cuz in that case then you know I feel like it would be
02:58:10
Jasmine Rosedifferent for a lot of like that is true answer would be a lot different um I'll say I don't remember if it was 7,000 or 8,000 one of those one time
02:58:21
Brian Atlastransaction and then what's what's the most in total any individual ever sent you o close to 100K over the span of a
02:58:33
Brian Atlasfew years close to 100K what about like the number two number three spot 50k 20K something around there do you think
02:58:43
Brian Atlasfrom all the just the sugar daddies do you think you've made over a million
02:58:53
TTS/Donationstotal OH Close donated $100 These Hoes cheering on other girls for being hoes is the epitome of misery
02:59:05
TTS/Donationslikes company love that for you you go girl they ain't your friends cheering her bad decisions to feel better a t there's can question cuz I have a question about
02:59:16
Brian Atlasthe sugar daddy sugar baby thing wait did you answer the to like you're I would say close close to what about from escorting oh I was actually factoring
02:59:27
Brian Atlasthat in oh okay I see I see okay uh and then you were you dating at this time same time too while you escorting yes would you
02:59:39
Brian Atlasdisclose to Partners that you were escorting no I was lying mhm damn yeah
02:59:48
Brian Atlasdamn can you ever adjust your mic me oh can you scoot your mic that way I think no just the base scoot it that way bottom did you save that money a lot of it that didn't really scoot it scoot it
03:00:01
Jasmine Rosenone of us cuz that's going to go to my next question but til turn it turn the mic towards you L questions did you save a lot of that money or blow a lot of that money so
03:00:12
Jasmine Rosebecause I I didn't have any basis cuz I you know I was very unstable without God in my life and without following God so I didn't have the fruits of the spirit to Steward that money so it all went to traveling um I often supported my family as well so like I understand when you're
03:00:25
Jasmine Rosesaying you know you had to do what you had to do cuz at the time I I thought that like I believed that I was like you know I got to support my mom my mom was on heroin most of my life as well so I was paying for my sister's schooling um
03:00:36
Jasmine Roseyou know my mindset was like I got to like make sure I'm good my family's good you know and so on and I grew up very poor you know know so I just felt like I was pressured into it now the scales
03:00:49
Jasmine Rosehave been removed and I genuinely see that I just believed the lies of the enemy but God also revealed to me hey that was never your responsibility to take care of them I didn't give that responsibility too and you you said you
03:01:01
Brian Atlasalso did uh you were involved in the adult entertainment industry yes um how many and I'll open this up to some of the other girls how many scenes did you do okay so I actually didn't do that
03:01:13
Jasmine Rosemany cuz I got married shortly after that okay and I met him in the club actually Club I actually met a lot of my boyfriends in the clubs cuz I was mostly in the club right yeah oh in the strip
03:01:25
Brian Atlasclub okay I thought you meant the club in the club 50 Cent okay uh how many scenes have you done with um like a 100 with 100 yeah what
03:01:38
Brian Atlasabout you like with different people or all together uh let's say with different people maybe like 10 15 what about what about you maybe
03:01:49
Brian Atlas25 okay got it and then moving it over to you you said that you did O in your past correct yeah but it wasn't o it was like
03:01:59
Shy Matthewspatreon but same thing yeah and so what kind of content were you were you making um so basically I called it at the time like I was in such a delusion that I was calling it like artistic nudes and I
03:02:12
Shy Matthewswould never actually show like full-blown news it' always be censored um but I would always call it like art and the people around me would say it's art but it's like really just
03:02:23
Madisononline prostitution I think it's art how's that prostitution if it's just newl phog new photography yeah that's what I did was
03:02:33
Shy Matthewslike stuff but I don't think that's art I think I was like making money off of like sexual like it's sexual like guys no no matter depends on how you look at it mhm no matter how much like we say
03:02:46
Shy Matthewsthat it's not the body's art the men they are seeing it sexually and they are definitely doing things not all men look at it like sexually though I think what all gay men you think gay men are looking at women and thinking it's
03:02:57
Brian Atlassexual I don't think the gay men are subscribing to the only fans I know but like everyone looks at it like it's art bdir is Art but I think well that was was that the extent of what you were
03:03:09
Brian Atlasdoing like there you never posted it was just patreon were you doing uh any sugar daddy stuff okay did you ever oneon-one send any of these like Customs I think
03:03:20
Brian Atlasthey're called would you do Customs like can you define Customs like it's uh you're directly messaging with somebody they put in a specific request maybe what you're putting out there on your
03:03:31
Brian Atlaspatreon is did you send out nude photo sets that they requested from you no okay so all the photos that you posted were censored you were nude but it was like censored correct okay that seems like art
03:03:44
Brian AtlasI don't think it's art because it's sexual are you doing like the A and I think we can it's wrong why why you laughing over here Cheyenne she was the
03:03:55
Brian Atlasa I don't know am I even saying you said it how do I say it AO Cheyenne's the AO Queen AO Queen okay um cosplay there you
03:04:08
Madisongo so it's like what like you're dressing up as video game characters type cosplaying um not so much it wasn't really cosplay like no okay no she's talking full nude like photography
03:04:19
Madisonlike I think that's really artistic though like were you just like posing and like showing like your yeah I was showing my body and I do think it's sexual I feel like it's the same thing is if your intention is to make a guy
03:04:31
Alexis Morgancome I think it's like whether you're getting gangbanged or you're sending him a picture of just your ponytail if you know that this man is getting sexual pleasure from it I feel like it's equally the same I mean of course
03:04:43
TTS/DonationsI really age different in the way that what she's doing is money worth more than your soul two have you actually thought about 10 years into your future
03:04:54
Brian Atlasthree if the men you choose are toxic aren't you the problem just hey just I thank you for your TTS just as a general rule though we can only do like one question per per TTS so if you want to
03:05:06
Brian Atlassubmit other ones you can but just for the sake of time we only we only allow one question for TTS um is money worth more than your soul have you actually thought that pick the best one let's
03:05:18
Brian Atlasjust not the first one maybe the third one if the men you choose are toxic aren't you and no let's do it we'll do the first one is money worth more than your soul
03:05:29
Darrayeah I'm just kidding at least she's honest I don't believe like a soul is a thing that you can sell or buy like money is in this reality worth a lot and makes you happy so I think money is you
03:05:41
Darrabelieve that a soul exists I believe the energy exists I don't know if like it's a lot it's a l I'm not going to get into a deep theological debate I believe in a lot of things I don't I don't think it has anything to do with each
03:05:52
Jasmine Roseother no absolutely not no and Lucas says what does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but forfeits his soul and that's the number one verse that convicted me I've
03:06:03
Jasmine Rosealso had dreams of hell and I've had dreams of heaven so for me I believe my mom's also went to hell and she came back so like I've just had so many Supernatural experiences to where I can only believe in the second
03:06:15
Shy Matthewscoming and the for the forfeiting of soul that she's talking about is eternal burning like I don't think people understand like burning like dying by burning just
03:06:26
Shy Matthewsanswer the question just answer the question please the most um is money worth more than no absolutely not
03:06:36
Monicayes I agree with you that they kind of like I don't think they correlate really I do think that like money kind
03:06:43
Darraof does buy happiness right I agree I mean if I have money I'm I'm happy seriously if nobody told you what a soul was you wouldn't really know what a soul
03:06:55
Brian Atlaswas 100% wait okay so we were I I want to touch on the roster thing really quick did we go around on the roster do you have a roster have you had a roster I don't really what do you mean like who I'm dating currently entertaining
03:07:07
Darramultiple men at the same time yeah you already asked me that oh did I did we I don't know where we left off or only work related a tested like it's not like
03:07:16
Darraa roster outside of that I don't have a roster wish I scoot your mic scoot your mic to the edge of the table go ahead are you talking about currently or in
03:07:25
Britney Crispthe past both in the past yes but like she said before like about conviction I've been convicted about that and I've been more into being with one person now
03:07:36
Brian Atlasbut there's no conviction about sugar no I don't right now no um sorry what what is the roster dating multiple people at the
03:07:47
Monicasame time no no I do not um I feel like there's like people you like talk to from hinge and Tinder and dating apps and stuff but um right
03:08:00
Brian Atlasnow currently no I don't have a roster but I have before no I don't okay all right I guess that covers the roster thing we did sugar babies all
03:08:11
Brian Atlasright I'm going to get into some of the pre show notes here pretty soon uh question for you two are you guys Born Again virgins what do you mean by that I don't
03:08:23
Shy Matthewsknow did you just claim the title born again virgin like no like if you mean like physical virgin I don't know I think that once you've lost it it's would you have sex with that marriage
03:08:33
Jasmine Rosemaybe yeah we're we're we're celibate we're not having sex because that's what about what about you are you a born again virgin I am yeah I wouldn't say say like I don't say like I'm a born-
03:08:44
Jasmine Roseagain virgin all the time but like I am yes what the hell does that mean okay yeah so like she said not physically but spiritually um it's interesting because when I you know when I was having sex
03:08:57
Jasmine Roseevery day cuz like there was a time where I literally classified myself as like a sex addict you know I was doing it every single day for years and um you know and I gave into it like I was like this is what I want to do this is my
03:09:07
Jasmine Roselife I Choose You know and of course there's moments where cuz you're giving into the flesh so of course you like it you know your flesh likes it we're in the flesh we're human you know and so
03:09:18
Jasmine Rosebut now I have peace so when did you when did you convert I've dabbled into a whole lot of religions but I always came back to
03:09:30
Jasmine RoseChristianity but I started to surrender fully like really born again last year in May when I decided you haven't had any any sort of sexual activity since
03:09:39
Andrew Wilsonthat conversion no okay so then when you say born again virgin you just mean that you have abstained from sex since you converted yes okay but you wouldn't say
03:09:52
Andrew Wilsonthat that maps on to the material reality and the fact of the matter correct yes okay gotcha so you're you're
03:10:01
Andrew Wilsonwhen you say uh spiritually right you're a virgin this what what what what does this actually mean to a partner like a
03:10:10
Andrew Wilsonpotential Suitor if you tell a Suitor I've slept with 50 plus men but I have found faith in Jesus Christ while they can take the consideration spiritually
03:10:22
Jasmine Rosethat it's great that you're Christian and have moved down that road shouldn't they still consider your sexual history that's where redemption and
03:10:32
Jasmine Roseforgiveness comes in um because honestly like if I and I'm sure maybe my future husband does have a promiscuous past just like me you know I will have the the same Grace for him you know I think
03:10:44
Andrew Wilsonit it comes down to like just Grace and forgiving and that's why it's important to be with a Believer because if you're I don't hang on hang on I don't disagree with you that you can find somebody who has a messed up past or has done things
03:10:56
Andrew Wilsonin their past or that people can't be redeemed or that people don't make mistakes and deserve to have Grace for it I agree with all of those things yeah but to the
03:11:07
Andrew Wilsonquestion even if you make this conversion to Christianity shouldn't a partner still consider the body
03:11:18
Jasmine Rosecount to understand the trauma to better understand um the the traumatic experiences and and the way you used to be and where you've came cuz
03:11:30
TTS/Donationsit's our testimony cuz God says that we bring people to Christ and the goodness of God brings people back to I'm so glad him not dating donated
03:11:40
TTS/Donations$100 hypothetically you have a son he is pure strong smart successful and morally straight he brings home a woman literal Mirror Image physically emotionally and
03:11:52
Jasmine Rosementally of yourself your reaction yeah this a great question what is your reaction well so hypoth I have to read that again
03:12:04
Andrew Wilsonhe is p strong smart so here I'll I'll just put it in the easiest way possible what he's asking is this if your son who straight laced is conv who you've raised up brought home a woman that had your
03:12:15
Jasmine Rosepast mhm would you be a little bit skeptical no no you wouldn't and do you think that that's responsible well if she's considering
03:12:28
Andrew Wilsonassuming that she's a Christian I I wouldn't judge her at all cuz that's that's judging That's What I Call judging someone from the past yeah but Jud do you have you're you have judgment for a reason God also gave you judgment
03:12:39
Andrew Wilsonso that you can make judgment calls so discernment is what you're speaking of discernment is way different than J speaking of discernment I'm speaking about judgment not just discernment
03:12:49
Andrew Wilsondiscernment is how you navigate the path judgment is how you call the path so I'm asking you specifically about judgment wouldn't you make if
03:13:01
Andrew Wilsonanybody says that there's a flag a red flag for a person's past or something like this they're making a judgment they are making a judgment and so the question becomes don't you think that you would make a judgment with your own
03:13:14
Andrew Wilsonchild now it doesn't mean you couldn't see past it m but wouldn't you say wait a second before you do this think about X Y and Z wouldn't that be a
03:13:24
Jasmine Rosejudgment I would definitely want to meet her but I would also I have such a deep understanding because I went through the same thing and I know my heart with God and God knows and he judges the intentions of the heart and God says
03:13:37
Jasmine Rosethat he's the only person that's to judge so I I think we disagree with whether a person actually actually judges and what that means I think that's where the I have a question yeah
03:13:47
Unknownuh would you prefer him bring someone else home say that she's still with her faith she's still a Christian would you prefer that he bring someone else home
03:13:58
Andrew Wilsonwho's a secularist who's a secularist yeah oh so so your son comes to you and says I I want to uh get with this chick who has
03:14:08
Andrew Wilsonthe same past you do but is not a Christian well that's completely different that's a different yeah I know I know it's completely different that's why I'm asking you the
03:14:19
Jasmine Rosequestion well I'll say this I've dated atheists before you know and and I can't dictate who my son chooses I can educate him I can bring him up in the faith yeah
03:14:29
Jasmine RoseI think you can at 15 or 16 years old I think you could okay if he's a minor okay I'll use my sister right now my sister's 17 years old and she's speaking to a boy right now and I don't
03:14:42
Jasmine Roseknow know if he's necessarily Christian I don't know his heart um but I've just I I just this is how I you know um am a sister to her I'm just like hey you know um I know you guys are Snapchatting this is her first guy and I've had many
03:14:54
Jasmine Roseboyfriends so I just like come with a open heart and I'm understanding and I'm just like hey if you ever have any questions if he ever asks you to send nude pictures or if you ever feel weird or like he's abusive or just anything just just know you can talk to me cuz
03:15:06
Jasmine Rosesometimes we got to hit the floor before we realize hey like this isn't good for me you know and I've hit the floor many yeah but this doesn't answer my question it really is kind of doing everything
03:15:16
Andrew Wilsonbut answering my question would you prefer would you prefer that your boy brought home a Christian girl yes AR
03:15:26
Jasmine Roseisn't that a judgment no how is it not you have to be with like-minded like for example if there's an atheist and an atheist I'm sure they'd want to you know they they probably don't want to be with a Christian because they're totally what
03:15:39
Andrew Wilsondoes that have to do with anything I just asked you why would you have the preference that your boy brought home a Christian girl if that's not a judgment how is that not a judgment that's how could it even be
03:15:50
Andrew Wilsonconstrued as anything other than a judgment you are judging right then and there that even right now before it's even happened you've made the Judgment mhm that you're you why would you prefer
03:16:01
Andrew Wilsonthis if you didn't judge this as being particularly better than the alternative yeah I would say it's wisdom and not judgment are you a Christian yourself
03:16:10
Unknownyou have enough wisdom to judge no no how is that not using wisdom to judge that laugh I think it is Judgment but like you said earlier judgment no no
03:16:21
Jasmine Rosehang on hang on hang on let me get back to this yes I agree it's wisdom but it's wisdom telling you to use what it's like God telling us you know it's better to wait till marriage he
03:16:34
Jasmine Rosedoes that not to tell us what to do but he says I love you so much I don't want you to be with someone and have a soul tie with somebody and be emotionally damaged that wasn't meant for you it's the same thing he's making a judgment
03:16:45
Andrew WilsonGod's making a judgment he's God he can judge all he wants that's right he's God he can judge all he wants but I'm asking you if that's the case and he's making a judgment in his wisdom how is it that
03:16:57
Jasmine Roseyou can determine that this is something that is done from your wisdom but is not a judgment for me I've just dated so many
03:17:07
Jasmine Rosenon-christians it doesn't work and it's a part of the main points of the faith is to date another believer equally yoke yeah equally y I know what that is
03:17:19
Jasmine Roseyeah making Mak a judgment though that's my point it's a preference awkward silence awward she just said it's a preference and not a judgment I actually that makes
03:17:31
Jasmine Rosemore sense I just don't oh it's a it's a it's a preference well why do you prefer that well I think it's it's easier it's more God doesn't want you to constantly fight with someone un beliefs if they
03:17:41
TTS/Donationsdon't want to believe we that sounds like a judgment it's not a judgment my deated $100 money absolutely buys happiness
03:17:52
TTS/Donationsbetween money and a female I'm choosing the bread every day whenever a female exited my life so did a problem unless to procreate the MD Legacy keep me
03:18:04
Darraaway why you still see thank you Mike Davis thank you Mike Davis can I ask a question that would be a judgment as well those would all be judgments why don't these podcasts ever have men that
03:18:14
Darraare in the adult industry on to kind of get their mindset about why they're in the industry we 22 H one person but like also in the panel of like what we do sometimes like the other perception like
03:18:27
Darrado you guys think that those men are not high value men like do you have a percep perception of that like they're not a good person or is it a yeah I think that uh adult film stars
03:18:39
Andrew Wilsonwho are males are total scumbags I don't have like a answer on that but does that does that like does that answer your question that answers my question that you like do you think I'm being biased
03:18:51
Andrew Wilsondo you think I'm being biased with my application and that I treat men who adult porn stars less less good or something cuz there's a lot of men that are porn stars and there's a lot of men that in the adult industry you might not
03:19:02
Darraknow and would it change your if you didn't know that they did that behind closed doors does it change your perception of that person as a person like what if you best friends with somebody no idea know if I didn't have
03:19:15
Andrew Wilsonthe requisite knowledge what if you never knew when they were your best friend or yeah well sure I mean would it change your knowledge then if you had a great neighbor who always brought you eggs and bacon every morning but you
03:19:25
Andrew Wilsonfound out they were a serial killer so PO is a serial killer like this is like yeah would that change your would that change your Dynamic you thought he was great until until you
03:19:35
Madisonfound out he wasn't great I'd still be his friend I found out like I I'd be Dexter's friend come on he's H but this but think about how what how ridiculous what you're asking me is if you didn't have the prerequisite
03:19:48
Andrew Wilsonknowledge that somebody was doing something bad would you make an error in judgment yes just like if you were friends with a serial killer and didn't know he was a serial killer how you have
03:19:59
Madisonno prerequisite knowledge for for your judgment here right if I found out that my next door neighbor was a seal killer if he was like nice to me and hot and didn't want to kill me I still be his friend I'm
03:20:13
Unknownjust saying okay I honestly think it's just cuz you guys are a lot more interesting entertaining more opinionated to be honest from my I think you're hot I'm
03:20:25
Darragoing to be honest wait but I'm saying like does that make me a bad person like would you not want me around your child like or you think I was okay no she's best that doesn't make
03:20:37
Andrew Wilsonsense um this is not even to be mean you're just asking mean yeah yeah I'm just trying to I want to explain my why
03:20:46
Andrew WilsonI would come at it this way okay I think just is this is my opinion that a person who's willing to devalue themselves and debase themselves in that
03:20:57
Andrew Wilsonway is experiencing what I would call prelest and this is an orthodox uh Christian tradition and this means that you're involved in sin to the point
03:21:07
Andrew Wilsonwhere you can't escape it this to me from my perview actually makes you a dangerous human being to have around for prolonged periods of time around people I would care about I would definitely
03:21:19
Andrew Wilsonkeep you at arms length that doesn't mean I would be mean to you or cruel to you or say that Society should do cruel things to you it just means that from my perspective yes I think arms length
03:21:30
Andrew Wilsonwould be the best place what if we repent for our sins and we are able to like you know come back from it repentance is great and that is exactly
03:21:42
Andrew Wilsonwhere I'd like to see everybody go but that doesn't mean just because somebody some holy hang on stop that doesn't mean that just because somebody dumps what they call holy water on your head and
03:21:53
Andrew Wilsonthen say redeemed hang on let me finish and then says you're redeemed that that means I'm going to agree with that at all and I still might keep you at arms
03:22:03
Andrew Wilsonlength for a while because Christianity requires theosis it's an ongoing process it's not something that's just well I I took the dunk and now I'm ready to go it's an ongoing process so I don't I
03:22:15
Andrew Wilsondon't take everybody at their word that just because they got dunked that that means that they're living with the Lord you know what I mean it seems a little absurd no I get it I don't think it
03:22:26
Unknownmakes you bad people either there's just obviously when you have children certain actions and behaviors that you want to keep them safe from I truly say that like I'm not a mom I'm almost 40 years
03:22:38
Darraold so I've been down this path where I tell my friends like don't don't start only fans unless you're okay with the decisions you make like I'm okay with maybe being single at this point in my life I'm okay with maybe not having kids
03:22:51
Darramaybe that's what I wanted when I was 30 but I have to worry about myself at some point in my life and I'm okay with the decisions I make and I'm having a little bit of fun with it you're super rational to at at at least so far you seem to be
03:23:03
Andrew Wilsonrational and you're willing to have a good rational discussion can I ask you a question I've been kind of wondering you said you don't plan on having kids mhm yeah well it's not that I don't plan on having kids if I had kids I would
03:23:16
Darraprobably I would want to be a stay-at-home mother I wouldn't want to be on only fans I say that all time I understand that and I don't even think that that's hypocritical at all but but my question
03:23:27
Andrew Wilsonis is knowing that this will probably take many of those advantages away from having children with with mate selection this kind of thing you do realize that
03:23:37
Andrew Wilsonyou could end up becoming a genetic dead end well and isn't that isn't that terrifying to think of that you could literally end up becoming a genetic dead end well I mean you shake your head but
03:23:48
Andrew Wilsonyou're a lot younger you got to remember that I'm not younger there's a no no no the gal next to you she was shaking her head and I'm like you're you're younger younger women always think that there's time there's there's not as much as you
03:24:00
Andrew Wilsonthink what if I don't want to have kids though what's that what if I just don't want to have kids what's really funny I want to myself what happens often with young women and yes there's mudes for
03:24:13
Andrew Wilsonthis if you want to see them but what often happens with younger women is they think they have a prolonged absent of time they don't even think about it what's interesting though is that once they come to the end of their biological
03:24:23
Andrew Wilsonclock you start to see their Panic set in must have kids must have kids your body will actually tell you to do this it'll give you overwhelming urges to do this what about just adopting cat like
03:24:36
Andrew Wilsonright now right now it's easy to be like well I don't even want kids but what always happens on Tik Tok is there's a woman crying in her face going I can't believe I waited this long and now I
03:24:46
Andrew Wilsoncan't have kids well that sucks for that girl I'm not like her I hold true to myself that's what they said that's what they all say right man I'm 33 I'm not as young as you think I don't know what you
03:24:57
Andrew Wilsonthought I was how old I'm 33 yeah okay well I mean I don't give a the overwhelming urge may still come over you yet I doubt it but sometimes I feel like in society there needs to be a
03:25:08
Darraconversation where like why are women like choosing to like I don't feel sometimes I always tell men like I don't feel emotionally safe and I've dated so many men in my life that I I kind of just want to worry about myself and like
03:25:21
Darrawe've worked so hard like I was a nurse struggling for years then I was an influencer Instagram and this is kind of like that last ditch effort to like make more money to feel comfort and safe in my life and to support myself so it's
03:25:34
Darranot something that like sometimes you guys think that we're bad people or that we're doing this because we want to and we're like these like it's also to like provide for ourselves
03:25:45
Darrabecause we're not in this relationship or I I did the normal feminism sold you a lie well I understand what you're saying but I feel like at this point in my life like I got to figure it out for
03:25:57
Andrew Wilsonmyself and you're looking you're looking for peace that's what you're looking for that's what it sounds like you're looking for peace found peace and found I found peace through money and that's
03:26:06
Darrawhat it is because if nursing need me it it's it sucks but it's society's Norm like if nursing I was trying to I was trying to say this before if nursing
03:26:16
Darrapaid me 30 40 50k a month I would run back to nursing tomorrow that's my calling $50,000 a month mhm how many nurses make that much none none no
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Darrathat's but that's insanity but I'm saying doctors don't make that a month do do attendings like but I'm saying on only fans we can make 10 20 30k I'm just
03:26:37
Unknownsaying like the range nursing I was making like less than $4,000 a month and it was very stressful so I feel like yes what wait wait no you weren't making less than $4,000 a month you said you're
03:26:49
Andrew Wilsonworking 60 hours a week after taxes I I'll be no no don't tell me that's not even possible do you want me to I pay you ,000 right now what I literally to
03:27:00
Andrew Wilsonyou right now you show me a payub of you working 60 hours a week every week and you you pulled in less than four grand I'll send you, bucks right now okay let's talk later it's 13 I'll be is I
03:27:11
Darraworked for 133 years as a neonatal ICU nurse it's 13 shifts a month some weeks were after taxes and the union dues and everything $800 my biggest paycheck was $1,100 I did this for years I was
03:27:23
Andrew Wilsonstruggling living paycheck to paycheck as a nurse but that's not 60 hours a week it's what a nurse's shift is I'm telling you yeah no no no no no you said you 60 hours a week 12 hour shifts but
03:27:34
DarraI'm saying I love but 12 hour shift you could work one day a week how many days a week were you working I was working three okay so as a nurse I'm just beings can I try to educate you as a nurse my
03:27:46
Darraday is like I would wake up at 5: in the morning I'd get to work at 7 I work 7 to 700 I work nights for 4 years so 12 TW one day a week I'd work the um four days
03:27:57
Darraa week as a nurse so you work 13 shifts a month so depending on like how you do your shifts but depending on if you work nights or days I didn't say I work 60 hours a week there are 16 hour days because basically like you you wake up
03:28:10
Darraat 5: in the morning I'm not getting home until like God forbid I wanted to go to the food store after work or I wanted to go to the gym and try to people always say like you could have a a family and do all this stuff and I
03:28:19
Darrawould see nurses oh my God who the hell cares actually well actually now I I did care a little bit because I'm just saying like this is so frustrating I come on all these podcasts and I try to
03:28:30
Darraexplain like as a as a woman and as a woman is like explaining why I made this decision and why a lot of other females and women typically make this decision you guys need need to listen to this as
03:28:42
Andrew Wilsona society as a you made okay you made over 30 bucks an hour I'm guessing I would make I've made over $100,000 a year with overtime in New York City okay okay but I'm asking you made over 30
03:28:54
Andrew Wilsonbucks an hour graduating college yes I made over I've made over 30 for sure yeah okay then it's actually impossible it's actually impossible for you to have only netted in $4,000 a month it's not even a possibility live in New yor City
03:29:07
Andrew WilsonI pay but if you're talking about your ship if you're talking about your sh% taxes 33% $100,000 done I'm almost done almost done at 40 hours a week that would not be possible union dues I said
03:29:18
Darraunion dues I said other pay things that came out shut the do I have to pull up my paycheck to actually be like this is the problem with men telling women that they don't know what they're
03:29:28
Darratalking about to shut up because I did I lived this for 13 years you shut up you shut up shut the up disgusting the way talking right now disgusting literally I did this for3 is worthless in the
03:29:42
TTS/Donationspockets of professional the West is dying because the family is dying men will refuse so disrespect are you ladies ready to be drafted since men have the freedom to
03:29:54
Darraleave why don't you guys put your wings away but why can't I just be honest about my job and as what I went through as a woman and you guys be honest about it it's really frustrating but you're saying you're this is not the first time
03:30:06
DarraI've had to go on podcast where you men tell me what I've made as a woman what my worth as a woman is I've been a nurse I'm tired of it laugh about it Brian that's awesome would you treat
03:30:17
Unknownyour daughter like that would you treat somebody you know like that thing is is that let's make fun of nurses somebody they gave up their life went to school did all this to take care of people he's
03:30:29
Darraquestioning your math on the my math I I Liv it I lived in New York City I had to budget my money and I live paycheck to paycheck it's it's this is kind of a boring conversation anyways it's boring I'm I'm sorry it's boring to you but it's this is honesty and I'm being
03:30:42
Darrahonest I came on this podcast to be honest why would I sit here and I'm being honest okay I'm going to get my I'm going to totally get my paychecks I'm going to pull them up next time I come we'll get them it's a it's a cool
03:30:55
Shy Matthewswe'll do it I'll show you like how much money I made you like you like theol you said that this podcast is not about making fun of woman and that I put words in your mouth but you're using
03:31:05
Shy Matthewsyour stream deck and Nick is using his andely to call her a b word to laugh her like how was this who called her I didn't call her well you you guys have a prompt that says you're like insisting this is the kind of money I made and I'm
03:31:19
Darralike literally telling I would never tell you you told me your wife you would leave her if she did this in her past I said okay wait hey Andrew what what uh what I for is she what is this tone policing that she's doing is that what it is is that what that's called no
03:31:32
Andrew Wilsonshe's for another thing is the thing is funny is like look I'm not trying to be me I'm just telling you that based on 60 hours
03:31:40
Darraa week say I work did I say I Works week you did 16 hour days I didn't say 16 hour weeks irrelevant but like let's argue about it all day let's just move
03:31:52
Andrew Wilsonon yeah what news flash if someone's on the verge of tears you should drop it cuz then it becomes abusive it it becomes what oh god sh you know stop whining you know what I mean have an
03:32:02
Andrew Wilsonadult conversation stop being a whiner she she's chilling she's chilling she's enjoying it she's actually more of an adult and more
03:32:14
Jasmine Rosehonest than you are I'm so passionate about ning no how you can only inhale insults you can't be an adult without inhaling insults calling someone stupid you called her stupid Stone she was on
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TTS/DonationsThe Well of Tears she was on The Well of Tears look you can say the brence donated $100 of course she's going to cry oh how
03:32:36
TTS/Donationssad you had to earn a degree in the greatest country on Earth crying about these women lack accountability and men need to go overseason and marry play H
03:32:46
Darradi as two boys it's fustrating trying to talk to men the reason I the reason I came up with this is because at the rate I came up with $7,200 a month that's why
03:32:58
Andrew Wilsonwhen you said 4,000 even with union dues at 60 hours a week it's 33% tax like no way that can't be possible arguing about this it's 33% taxes God who the hell cares he cares he cares
03:33:10
Brian Atlasstop we're going to move on we're going to move on all right actually we're going to go back we're going back to the born again virgin thing because she wanted to uh
03:33:22
Brian Atlashijack the conversation to bring it back to her nursing career so we were initially talking about I I was I was overhearing it I
03:33:33
Brian Atlaswasn't at the table but how if you had a son and he brought home a a girl mhm you would have no who had
03:33:44
Brian Atlasthe same background as you with the prostitution and escorting and doing adult content and working in a strip club yeah uh for your own son so long as
03:33:56
Brian Atlasshe's a Christian you would not have any sort of encouragement or
03:34:05
Brian Atlassuggestions towards him to perhaps pursue a different partner and you're saying she's she's a
03:34:14
Brian AtlasChristian right yes no she's born again what okay she's okay uh if you had if your son showed
03:34:25
Brian Atlasyou like oh I'm talking to these two girls it's very early on and he had one girl that had your background Christian and another girl who was also Christian but didn't have
03:34:36
Jasmine Roseyour background and perhap let's say let's use the uh extreme she's an actual ual Virgin uh would you have a preference there of course I would always encourage
03:34:48
Brian Atlasmy kids to be with a Christian because I've went through they're both Christian okay there's there's not a preference you you wouldn't have any no so what if
03:35:00
Brian Atlasthis woman had adult videos of herself online and whether she's Christan or not you know that those videos could perhaps have some negative ramifications on her future
03:35:11
Brian Atlason your son's future children uh maybe he's a career man he's a businessman MH being in a relationship or married to such a woman could have
03:35:22
Jasmine Rosenegative impacts on his career let's say perhaps he's in politics for example or he's just a businessman even then is if if you don't mind is that a fact that that does affect politicians
03:35:35
Brian Atlasif their wife has things like that like lewd content on the internet yes the partner that if if you're partnered with somebody who whose reputation is in disres disrepute if you choose to marry
03:35:47
Brian Atlasand partner with them and have children with them by extension yes your partner's reputation while it's not your reputation will have some some impact whether I I don't know precisely what
03:35:59
Jasmine Rosethe impact might be but you deny that it would have no impact I would say if it did impact what job that husband got then it wasn't in
03:36:12
Brian Atlashis will to have that job from God that's how I look at it whatever is meant for you will come I truly it's simple that's that's what I believe so if your son has career Ambitions and but by
03:36:27
Brian Atlas[Music] partnering thank you Natalia your son has specific career Ambitions but there's he's presented with the choice of two women and
03:36:39
Brian Atlaspartnering with the woman hey guys don't talk back there partnering with oh God I lost my train of thought partnering with the woman who
03:36:50
Brian Atlashas this past yeah I'm sorry I lost it's okay take your time okay do you you okay I'm sorry I
03:37:01
Jasmine Roselost my train of thought but you see where I'm going with this yeah so like um uh correct me if I'm wrong but uh so are you saying that if there's two people and then one has a past and they're Christian and one has a past and
03:37:14
Jasmine Rosethey're not which one would I lean more towards if if I would lean more towards somebody yeah I mean it's just I I really don't
03:37:25
Jasmine Rosethink in that way and I know the answer you know you would have on that I just kind of sense that like obviously you think you know the less trauma someone has the less that they've done you know explicitly sexually with men that that
03:37:38
Jasmine Rosewould be a better option and I see like I see see how you would think that and I will admit there is less trauma with that girl for sure okay yeah I get that um I still wouldn't be biased and say Well since that girl's a Christian too
03:37:50
Jasmine Rosejust cuz she hasn't had a past like me you should pick her I just I wouldn't say that I genuinely wouldn't I would encourage anything I'd be like you know what like you're your own person I'm your mother I've taught you the best I
03:38:02
Andrew Wilsoncan May the Holy Spirit lead you you know he can make his own decision May the Holy Spirit lead you yeah your job to your job as a mother yeah is to Mother
03:38:13
Andrew Wilsonyour daughter right I just said I've taught him all that he could know he's 18 now he can do make his own decisions what's wrong with that yeah yeah okay yeah they can make their own decisions
03:38:25
Andrew Wilsonbut you're the guid stone yeah so it's your children are going to call you for advice even past the age of 18 they're going to call for guidance they're going to call for things like this right so if your daughter calls for guidance and says listen mom there's two really
03:38:37
Andrew Wilsonhandsome guys and they're both really nice to me and they're great one has a Christian background was raised by a Christian family the other one comes from a broken home and is a secularist
03:38:48
Jasmine Rosewhich one would you advise that she go with I mean I think any human wants someone who's not as traumatic I mean so obviously someone would be like you know
03:39:00
Jasmine Roselike I want someone who treats me well who's stable all of us want that it's not just a man it's not just a woman all of us want that deep down and so you know we can't cast any judgment on anybody and so it's just it all boils
03:39:13
Andrew Wilsondown why can't we why can't you cast any judgment on anybody because it says only God can judge we can't judge okay let's should we get should we get rid of judges in courtrooms can we move on I honestly I want to know the answer
03:39:24
Andrew Wilsonshould we get rid of judges in courtrooms are they doing Satan's work they really don't do much it's like a well wait but they're judging people only God can
03:39:35
Jasmine Rosejudge are you judged by your peers can judge Judes you know they're it that's different that's with crime this is relationships this is Free Will relationships it's different to me
03:39:48
Jasmine Rosethat's a different category because when you're in the courtroom hey you killed somebody you did this so it's like that makes no sense that's absurd there's still making judgment values so are they doing the work of the devil just because
03:40:00
TTS/Donationsthey're a judge would you yeah because they're judging nois Jud I don't understand why can't you, plus a year 2 weeks a year minus
03:40:12
TTS/Donations33% taxes is $67,000 far more than $1,000 a week No Way Around It basic math even an e do and day like me can do Andrew send me
03:40:24
Andrew Wilsonthat $1,000 I'm going to come back on and bring that was what it was that wasn't what the agreement was for but yes I came up with something very similar just based on 60 hours but at
03:40:35
Andrew Wilson100K that actually again that was that was kind of the next we place I I was going I didn't I didn't actually understand the math so that's all I wasn't even try to be mean I just didn't
03:40:45
Brian Atlasunderstand the math here to bring it back okay so if bring them what if you found out your son brings back two women
03:40:56
Brian Atlasboth Christian one of them has her past one of them doesn't mhm she had the the one who has her past has an incurable STD would
03:41:06
Brian Atlasyou make a judgment and suggest yes to your son well despite her being a repented Christian woman maybe don't pick the one who has
03:41:21
Jasmine RoseHIV would that be a judgment that's it's it's not a judgment that is a preference but also do you also this raises a question do you think that someone with HIV can't have a
03:41:35
Brian Atlashealthy relationship do you think they can't have love after HIV so would you advise your son to date a woman who has
03:41:46
Andrew WilsonHIV I I mean I wouldn't encourage it no of course not so why is why is everybody leaving the church Andrew why is everybody fleeing from protestantism you
03:41:56
Andrew Wilsondon't want your kid to date somebody with hi just say it's okay to say that I don't want my child to date somebody with HIV instead of making Christians
03:42:07
Andrew Wilsonlook insane and stupid how about just saying the answer which is obvious you don't want your kid to date somebody with HIV I just said that but I would I love it if you could please stop with
03:42:18
Andrew Wilsonthe insults okay I'm not insulting you there was not respectful you so I deserve that back thank you what did I say that was an insult you keep saying stupid that's not very nice I didn't
03:42:29
Andrew Wilsoncall you stupid not even say what we're saying is stupid what you said is stupid that doesn't mean you're stupid I'm a smart guy who says stupid things sometimes it doesn't does mean I'm
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Andrew Wilsonstupid now back to this I'm just going to reiterate obviously and clearly can't you just give a single simple direct answer yes you would prefer that your kids uh married Christians and yes you
03:42:52
Jasmine Rosewould prefer that they didn't have HIV and yes you make judgment calls all the time and that that's okay you're trying to put words in my mouth I said yes I of course I don't prefer my kid to marry someone with HIV
03:43:04
Brian Atlasof course I don't prefer that I just gave you a clear answer on that so is somebody who's that's a judgment it's not a judgment it's a decision this is getting it's like almost semantics a little bit now but
03:43:16
Unknownit's well well hang on semantics are important when you're talking about something like judgment I know is that a judgment it's not a judgment it's a decision it's not a judgment but then so
03:43:26
Brian Atlaswhy why is that not a judgment to advise your son hey maybe don't date somebody who has HIV versus hm maybe don't date
03:43:37
Brian Atlassomebody who was previously involved in prostitution and escorting and adult uh pornographic content why is one a judgment and the other not because it's in the sentence that you said maybe
03:43:49
Brian Atlasyou're just making a decision based on your preference okay it's not a judgment a judgment saying I can't I I don't think I are with this all right so moving on slightly so okay you're a born
03:44:01
Brian Atlasagain virgin okay but you don't consider yourself a virgin correct physically of course not yeah okay and I think to you too you're not a
03:44:13
Shy Matthewsvirgin are you asking me if I'm a virgin or if I count myself as a born- again virgin either both I guess yeah I don't count myself as a born again virgin like
03:44:22
Brian Atlasphysically okay but you guys are both uh waiting until marriage yes correct is that correct okay are you what are you waiting until marriage
03:44:33
Brian Atlasto have sex I plan on it yes what do you mean you plan on it I plan on waiting till marriage but you're you're not a virgin correct
03:44:42
Brian Atlasno okay um so I mean that's 100% your choice however my dating recommendation to any