00:00:06Brian Atlaswelcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape thanks for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me I appreciate that coming to you live from Santa Barbara California every
00:00:17Brian AtlasSunday and Tuesday 5:00 p.m Pacific I'm your host Brian Atlas uh I guess Kiki's here Kiki's here yep um she's Bai few quick announcements
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00:01:03Madisonfurther Ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age occupation and location go ahead my name is Britney crisp and my age is
00:01:14Darra32 and I'm located in New Hampshire and my occupation only fans my name is darra I'm 38 years old I'm from Brooklyn New York New York and
00:01:25Alexis MorganI'm a retired nurse and only fans model my name is Alexis Morgan I'm 27 I from Miami Florida and I am a real
00:01:35Britney Crispestate investor and an only Advance model age 27 did I miss that I don't know okay what about you I am the Jasmine Rose uh I am a model in New York
00:01:45Jasmine RoseCity I am 26 and yeah hello my name is Shy Matthews and I am turning 26 years old tomorrow and I live in Studio City California and I'm a
00:01:56Shy MatthewsChristian influencer hi my name is Claire um I'm 26 years old and I'm a medical assistant and I'm from La hi my name is Monica I am 20 years
00:02:08Monicaold I am a barista and I locally from Santa Barbara hi my name is Bri I'm from Santa Barbara California um I'm 19 years old and I'm a full-time student working at
00:02:20Lexiin a restaurant industry hi I'm Lexi I'm 23 uh located in the 209 stock to anti area and I'm also Bria
00:02:31Andrew Wilsonand we have Andrew Wilson joining us today Andrew yeah my name is Andrew Wilson host of The One and Only Crucible one of the fastest if not the fastest growing debate Channel on YouTube I'm a content creator appreciate you guys
00:02:43Brian Atlashaving me tonight all right welcome everybody so we're going to go around the uh table once more what's everybody's current relationship status so are you single talking stage situationship Friends with Benefits
00:02:54Brian Atlasrelationship married polyle whatever if you're single how long have you been single what's the longest relationship you've ever been in starting with you go ahead I'm currently single and the longest relationship that I've ever been
00:03:06Darrain was 7 and a half years how long have you been single um probably about 9 months nine months all right what about you um I've been single for about 6
00:03:19Darramonths and the longest relationship I've been in was about 4 years I was almost married was there an were you engaged or no looking for Rings looking for what
00:03:29Alexis MorganRings like we were almost at that stage single longest relationship was 7 and 1/2 years and I have been single for
00:03:39Britney Crispa year and a half yeah I'm currently in a relationship with the question mark and have been in the relationship for about a month my longest relationship was 2 and a half years what do you mean
00:03:51Brian Atlasquestion mark um we almost broke up an hour ago so it's like is he here in Santa Barbara no he's back in New York City he's a model oh you came you flew here right yeah okay why did you almost
00:04:03Brian Atlasbreak up an hour ago before um the whatever podcast it's just I'm thinking about moving to California so we'll see so you had a semi breakup conversation right before the yeah dating podcast he
00:04:15Britney Crisphad to go on set and I had to come on here so he's like we'll talk about it and I'm like okay bye he had to go on set yeah is it Tai bigs no oh Ty digs wait Ty Tay digs Tay
00:04:27Jasmine Rosedigs he's in New York yeah I wish okay oh my God yes um I am currently single my last
00:04:38Jasmine Roserelationship was 5 months ago and my longest relationship I've ever had was 4 and 1/2
00:04:47Shy Matthewsyears um I'm single and um I've been single for about 3 years now since I came to Christ and my longest relationship was about a year to two
00:04:57Brian Atlasyear a year to two years yeah I'm sorry that's a large gap year and a half and you said you've been single for 3 years was it mhm okay what about you
00:05:09Claireuh I'm single my longest relationship was a month and I have been single for 6 years now longest relationship a month yeah but you've been single for 6 years so
00:05:19Brian Atlasyou in your 20 correct yeah so your one month relationship when was Middle School 14 no I was I was a freshman in high school
00:05:30Monicaokay but you were like 14 or something yeah around there okay what about you um I'm currently single and I've been single for 19
00:05:42Brian Atlasyears okay so what's the longest period of time you've ever seen a guy dated a guy a month one month but it wasn't like
00:05:51Monicadating or anything what was it um talking I guess what does talking mean like
00:06:00Brian Atlastalking like every day um when was this how long ago was this this was sophomore year in high school okay and no no prospects since like a two
00:06:16Monicaweer like like not like no nothing serious nothing serious okay yeah what about you um I've
00:06:27Lexibeen single for over a year um my longest relationship was 5 years all right Andrew what about you yeah I've been married for uh well
00:06:38Brian Atlasover a decade Okay cool so good jumping off point is um maybe you've seen the show before maybe you've seen uh clips from Andrew
00:06:51Brian Atlasover there who's on the on the monitor uh maybe some of you aren't super familiar with the show maybe some of you are a good jumping off point we like to to do is um is there anything
00:07:02Brian Atlasthat anybody disagrees with that you've heard from me from Madison back there she's had some hot takes and then from Andrew we'll start there
00:07:13Shy Matthewsanybody so far enough okay that makes my job easy uh I can I I have something sure um wow this like starting right off
00:07:22Shy Matthewsthe bat um I think that um the point of the show I I even like in your previous video like you mentioned that the bread and butter of
00:07:33Brian Atlasthe show is to kind of almost in a way make fun of certain women and they're different wow that's slander I'm going to interrupt you right there I've those words have never exited my mouth so please actually State
00:07:46Shy Matthewssomething correctly that I've said go ahead okay so um just I think watching like the previous um shows I felt like there was a lot of um obviously L
00:07:59Shy Matthewsdisagreements as there's a lot of women here and even men but I think there's a lot of like casting stones in a sense um
00:08:08Shy Matthewsnot that the law in the sense that you know doing certain things um are good or bad um like I'm sorry I'm trying to
00:08:18Shy Matthewsexplain I'm like nervous um but like the show tends to like cast stones at certain women and I see the common section too and as a Christian I feel like that's not what what you know Jesus
00:08:30Shy Matthewscalls us to do we don't cast stones at each other um especially when we have a log in our eye like our own pride and our own sins we're all sick with sin and we all need an antidote okay that sounds
00:08:43Shy Matthewslike you're making um sounds like you're making a judgment are you making a judgment yeah and I don't think judgment is necessarily bad because we need to be able to judge to um you know see you
00:08:54Shy Matthewsknow if somebody's doing something bad or not but the so what's the actual CR criticism then yeah so the kind of judgment that I'm talking about it stems from like pride and this is something
00:09:05Shy Matthewsthat you know we see Christ warning us about um saying oh I fasted two times a week I've you know I pray um thank God I'm not like these Tax Collectors or
00:09:17Shy Matthewsthese Sinners and Jesus really comes down hard on the Pharisees and I kind of feel like that is where the show tends to go and um I don't think that's the
00:09:28Shy Matthewspoint of Christian the point of Christianity is that we all need like a savior I don't I actually don't understand the criticism here so the
00:09:39Shy Matthewscriticism is that you think that there's too many people who are on the show who are too Pious and are virtue signaling yeah I think it's like extreme on like
00:09:49Shy Matthewsboth ends um you know there's on one end a complete lack of morality and um relativism so there's no good there's no wrong and and then on the other end it's
00:10:00Andrew Wilsonlike judging women and making fun of these women um that come on well I don't I I don't understand if you if you're a moral relativist and you are arguing with a
00:10:11Andrew Wilsonmoral objectivist which you are because you're a Christian um that's that's how that's going to sound right in order to demonstrate that somebody's a relativist you have to demonstrate that they would
00:10:23Shy Matthewsmove towards absurd conclusions because they don't have objective morality how else as a Christian could you demonstrate that yeah and I actually agree with you I think that the purpose
00:10:35Shy Matthewsof the law to show them is kind of like going to a doctor's office and saying here is the symptom like we're morally sick and you need a cure and it's not I'm better than you because your sins
00:10:47Shy Matthewsare worse than mine and after studying some of the videos that I watched on the whatever podcast that's just kind of the conclusion that I came with with the type of language that we use the way that we laugh at each other I don't
00:10:59Shy Matthewsthink would we we would be laughing at each other when we see that you know the wrath of God is like hanging upon us and if we're a Christian like we believe in hell and that's God's judgment like it's
00:11:10Andrew Wilsonnot a laughing matter about our sins like we're all sick and we all Christ so then to dive into this let us play a game of pretend let us pretend that you
00:11:21Andrew Wilsonare arguing with an actual prostitute who sees nothing wrong with being a prostitute can you explain how you would make an AR G One Motorsports donated
00:11:32TTS/Donations$100 it is my job to cast the stones and make fun of those that deserve it at Bull get the Rocks we are going to need a lot
00:11:41Shy Matthewsthing so exactly that's my point is what this individual said and I'm not okay with that um throwing rocks at women who
00:11:51Brian Atlasget the Rocks yeah Abdul yeah get the Rocks get the rocks so that's that's my point right there
00:12:02Andrew Wilsonand uh Andrew did you want to restate your question to her yeah if you're arguing with a woman who's a prostitute you don't agree with prostitution can you explain how you would make such an
00:12:14Shy Matthewsargument to them well first of all you know because I'm a Christian I would say that you know in in in the in the word and in the Bible like God says that sexual
00:12:25Shy Matthewsimmorality is wrong and yeah but they reject that right and so we would have that conversation but my heart attitude like the heart attitud we're having the conversation they already rejected it
00:12:36Andrew Wilsonyeah sorry can you explain to me how you're going to uh show them the error of their way they reject the Bible they
00:12:42Jasmine Rosethink it's a uh 2,000-year-old Book of Lies yeah may I say something okay so um I was actually a prostitute I've been in
00:12:55Jasmine Rosethe adult industry and um I was also a dancer and so I had a Divine Encounter With Jesus last year in May and I this is how I presented it I was like God of the universe reveal yourself to me and
00:13:07Jasmine Rosethen I started having a series of dreams and visions of Jesus Christ and you know God sanctifies you the definition of sanctification is the process of becoming more holy sometimes things
00:13:19Jasmine Rosechange overnight sometimes things change gradually you know cuz everyone's different God has different timing of healing and revealing things in accordance to what you can handle and so
00:13:30Jasmine Rosethat just exhibits his grace and his love and his Mercy towards us his Mercy get it but they're going to reject all of that because a relativist and they don't believe you they think you're
00:13:39Shy Matthewsdelusional right and like I said you know like talking to these woman and saying hey like this way like we've been there and it's wrong it's sinful and
00:13:51Shy Matthewsit's against you know um God's goodness it's you know just um staining his glory um but he loves us and he died for us on the cross and he resurrected so that we
00:14:02Shy Matthewscan be born again and have new life and what righteous muffin is saying in the comment section is that what I'm saying is not we is not what I'm saying is not
00:14:13Shy Matthewsthat we you know devolve into degeneracy that's not what I'm saying because that's why Christ came to save us he came to make us a new creation by just believing in him but what I find is that
00:14:25Shy Matthewsthe podcast often is using the law a lot to just condemn condemn condemn and not giving the Cure which is Christ Jes what do you mean law like for example like
00:14:37Shy Matthewswhat he was saying like prostitution is wrong like of course like we can say prostitution is wrong all day but we're not presenting the cure to the prostitution which but you have to you
00:14:49Andrew Wilsonhave to deconstruct a person's worldview before you can replace it with something else so if you have a person who's a nihilist or a moral relativist don't you first need to Pro that their worldview
00:14:59Andrew Wilsonis correct before you can move into giving them a new purview on that yes I agree with you and I'm not arguing about that I think we're like I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying I'm
00:15:11Andrew Wilsontalking about like the heart I think I am do do you mind if I take a stab at steel Manning your position so I think that what your position is is that you
00:15:20Andrew Wilsonthink that um what's going on when people are having these discussions on this podcast is that it's falling short of the Glory of Christ from your perspective and that everything should
00:15:31Andrew Wilsonbe given through that purview my counter to this is to say to you and forgive me is that correct is that what what your
00:15:39Andrew Wilsonwhat Your basic position is um yes okay so if that's the basic position then my counter to this is if
00:15:50Andrew Wilsonyou are going to convince somebody you it's generally best and you'll see this in the best Christian apologists who've ever existed to meet them where they're at mhm and if you meet them where
00:16:01Andrew Wilsonthey're at right you have to deconstruct and destroy their worldview first before it can be replaced with something else and it can look brutal and it can look uncomfortable and it can be not a lot of
00:16:12Andrew Wilsonfun and it can look like there's judgments and things like this but I think that um if if that was not what was going on that guys like Chase guys like myself we would not be on the
00:16:23Andrew Wilsonpodcast because we're able to give uh significant push back to these other worldviews uh if it comes up that doesn't mean we have to be mean to anybody right but we
00:16:33Shy Matthewsstill do have to provide push back right don't you think yes and and I absolutely agree with you and Andrew I don't know your heart you know you I I agree with you that we need to meet them at their world worldview because they're not
00:16:45Shy Matthewsthere there's a lot of people who tell me like the Bible is not a credible source for me because I don't believe in the Bible and so yes we should absolutely meet them give the evidence but what I'm talking about is something
00:16:56Shy Matthewswhat let's say like righteous um the earlier donation he was like cast the the stones on these women like I'm talking about that heart posture I'm not arguing against what you're saying I'm actually agreeing with you but I'm
00:17:08Andrew Wilsontalking about the heart issue behind condemning people what I think is that simply pointing out sometimes to entitled women that they're wrong will give the appearance that you're casting Stones when you're not but just pointing
00:17:21Andrew Wilsonout that they're incorrect or what they just said was absurd or even just laughing because they said something so absurd I think that can give the appearance that you're casting Stones even though you're not actually directly
00:17:32TTS/Donationsdoing that's my position on grid One Motorsports donated $100 dear we do not default to degeneracy however degeneracy must be
00:17:42TTS/Donationsshamed God is merciful but as righteous anger when there is sin it is a sin for you to enable bad behavior please do better yo grid One Motorsports thank you
00:17:52Brian Atlasfor that uh we're not going to linger on that for for too long but um so it was an interesting conversation I appreciate it having it yeah and I mean if I can
00:18:02Brian Atlasjump in really quickly on it uh so but you're where that sort of stemmed from was you said that well you thought that I said that it's the bread and butter of
00:18:13Shy Matthewsthe show to what yeah so basically there was a woman on one of the shows and forgive me for not remembering her name but she said oh I didn't know that this was going to be like a you versus us like
00:18:26Shy Matthewsdebate I thought it was just going to be like an like us having a conversation not just like you guys you know and then all the insults that were thrown at them and you said well that's like the bread
00:18:36Shy Matthewsand butter of the show um and so yeah and a lot of the comments that which girl was that which episode was that I think it was like two three videos ago
00:18:47Brian Atlasum I I'm sorry I don't remember like the title of the video oh I think it was actually a show that Andrew was on um was it with the two uh
00:18:59Brian Atlasthe two black the the gobler yeah it was the gobler right yeah the gobler um Andrew was there and I think so she came on the show and I think
00:19:09Brian Atlasshe said something about oh well I thought we were just going to share quirky dating anecdotes and I didn't think that we would be having these sort of heavier discussions
00:19:22Brian Atlasand debates and I think I said the debates were bread and butter but um and perhaps she included well I wasn't
00:19:29Brian Atlasexpecting XYZ so I think you mentioned um you know the mocking the women but I've never out of my own mouth ever said that the bread and butter of the
00:19:41Brian Atlaswhatever podcast is mocking women the bread and butter of the whatever podcast is having is having uh oftentimes adversarial conversations when it comes
00:19:50TTS/Donationsto dating topics culturea donated $100 humor is very powerful tool to lower defense is ridicule is beneficial in loosening the grip of evil on an
00:20:02TTS/Donationsindividual it is fine to use humor as long as one is not destroying another's Humanity that's a very good observation and I couldn't agree with
00:20:12Andrew Wilsonthat super chat more so I think that I I do remember this panel as well and uh she was basically complaining that she felt like the conversation was getting too heady she thought it was to was a
00:20:25Andrew Wilsonlittle too sophisticated for her and actually we tun turned the the rhetoric back because of that to tried again to meet her where she was at so I don't feel like anybody's Humanity was being attacked that episode that's for sure
00:20:37Brian Atlasand we had some pretty good conversations in that episode in fact and just last thing um so you also mentioned well some of the Chatters some
00:20:46Brian Atlasof the TTS comes through sometimes those can be uh insulting or critical of a guess and uh look I I can say this you
00:20:57Brian Atlasknow the internet is an an interesting place people with when it when you have uh when you're anonymous you can uh sort of talk in a way that you wouldn't otherwise talk to somebody if you're
00:21:08Brian Atlasface to face with them but uh as a man as an individual I don't know how to be responsible for the words somebody else says because your initial comment was directed towards me but I I can't be
00:21:20Brian Atlasresponsible for by the way shout out I don't know if ero Aro TV is still in the chat I don't know how to be responsible for what he says I don't know how to be resp responsible for what grid one says I just know how to be responsible for
00:21:31Shy Matthewsthe words that come out of my mouth so uh I can't really take claim to what anybody else is saying you know yeah thank you for your response um and I'm not saying that you're responsible for what other people do that's why when I'm
00:21:44Shy Matthewstalking about this I'm talking to everybody including the people on the internet because we're all human beings and this is the calling um of the gospels to not hate one another or make fun of one another but to love one another and see that we're all sick and
00:21:58TTS/Donationswe're in need of a savior position I'm
00:22:04TTS/Donationscoming donated $0000 chat would you rather get a massage from a gay man or surgery from a female doctor serious surgery so
00:22:15TTS/Donationsbasically would you rather get a massage or die
00:22:25Andrew Wilsonshow um wait did you ask me yeah what do you what would you prefer I think I think the surgery is happening bro wait you'd rather you'd
00:22:37Brian Atlasrather get serious surgery from a female doctor than just like a massage from a a gay guy yeah I think
00:22:47Britney Crispso okay um can I say something sure can I ask why why what why he would rather get
00:22:59Andrew Wilsonsurgery than a massage oh to you're asking to Andrew yeah well it's not that I'd rather get surgery than a massage that wasn't the question the question oh wait maybe we don't go there maybe we
00:23:10Brian Atlasdon't go there let not okay uh she's she's looking for something okay um by the way I do want to mention uh on our last show we ended the stream there were
00:23:21Brian Atlasa couple uh it was $50 uh streamlabs donations that came in we missed them I'm very sorry guys normally we're it's
00:23:30Brian Atlasvery rare that we miss any uh any uh super chats or streamlabs donations I think they came in there at the very end
00:23:38Brian Atlasit just spped my mind uh if it's a Shannon Lacy and DDR nav 314 I apologize that we missed your Chats on the last show um you know what maybe I just read
00:23:49Brian Atlasthem I'll have uh I'll read them really quick nav just said Thank You For Fighting the progressive biases and honoring well reasoned discussion appreciate it and then the other one I
00:24:01Brian AtlasI'll message you Shannon I'll message you directly and see if you want to resubmit these uh for another show uh okay so anybody else any disagreements on
00:24:11Brian Atlasanything let's just get to the topics okay so I wanted to check in on everybody's relationship status so everybody here is kind of single except for you but you just had a breakup semi
00:24:24Brian Atlasbreakup conversation um single single single single single single single
00:24:32Brian Atlassingle okay so what is being single actually mean um cuz I mean a lot of you guys are very you got some Attractive people here at the table I'm sure
00:24:43Brian Atlasthere's uh you know some guy in the picture maybe multiple guys in the picture so you said you've been [Music] single FL life thank you for the gifted
00:24:56Brian Atlasuh 20 memberships actually really quick why don't you pull up righteous muffins I'll read this one really quick actually who who here has a good can I have you read it trying to
00:25:07Shy Matthewssave my voice here if we don't judge others and try to change their way do we just let Society devolve into degeneracy how do we ever get people to change their ways do we just love the degeneracy
00:25:19Shy Matthewsaway that might be directed at you if you want to quickly respond to it yeah um that's what I was saying earlier is that what I'm saying is not that we just let people in their sin Jesus said
00:25:30Shy Matthewscalled us to repent of our sins and repenting means the Greek word is metanoia which is to change your mind from the to Believe In Christ and the
00:25:41Shy Matthewsway that we believe Christ and get saved and actually start obeying God is not to try to obey the law to get into heaven or to have a relationship with God is to
00:25:51Shy Matthewsjust believe that he did the work for us like he finished it on Cross
00:26:01Andrew Wilsonoh sorry did you want to keep going or was there more um yeah sounds like a sounds like Sola to me say say that again is that
00:26:14Shy MatthewsSola um by faith alone correct um and then the fruits come as a result of the faith genuine Faith um people will will bear fruit so
00:26:26Shy Matthewsfor example um Cheyenne's testimony was that she was working in the industry so was I I encountered Jesus I repented of my sins I believed in Christ and I got born
00:26:37Shy Matthewsagain and now I'm a completely different person and I take no credit for that it's God and God alone for that radical change um he didn't just change one view or two views he changed all of me well this is going to be an
00:26:50Brian Atlasinteresting round table tonight I can already see okay all right so going back to the the single stuff so uh you've been
00:26:59Madisonsingle for 9 months uh some guys in the picture though right um there's been a couple couple guys maybe what about right now uh there's a guy that's like long distance I don't I
00:27:11Brian Atlasdon't know what to say about it but we're just talking okay um and you do you do o right yeah um what kind of
00:27:20Brian Atlascontent are you making is it solo content BG GG it's like all of it BB G
00:27:28Brian Atlasyeah it's like x g mhm all of that stuff what what's uh have you done any tra traditional adult content like
00:27:38Madisonmainstream yeah not yet but brazers wants to work with me but I haven't done mainstream okay uh do you have like a
00:27:47Madisonshooting partner that you work with um for Content I did it was my ex-boyfriend the one from nine months ago yeah okay why' he dump you
00:27:58Madisonum he didn't dump me we mutually split up but it just wasn't working for many different reasons not because of what I was doing for a living it was like what he was doing for a living versus what I was doing for a living what was he doing
00:28:10Brian Atlashe's a weed grower and I was going to join him I had an intuition it was drug related that's funny it is okay okay um wait actually I have quite a few threads I want to go here just going around the
00:28:23Darratable why did your boyfriend dump you your last boyfriend um I chose to just walk away from the situation wasn't right for me oh you ended it okay um twice the last two guys I dated I ended
00:28:34TTS/Donationswhy did your boyfriend dump you your last boyfriend I left him what a projection I I'll get one k donated $100 daddy brixon longtime listener
00:28:46TTS/Donationsfirst time donator for the cute Christian Asian girl I am a 30 and Christian from Oregon who makes over six figures could I fly you out for a date I can send a
00:29:05Brian Atlasum no comment sorry I I don't know how to respond to that I'm sorry well he's asked he's asked if uh he could fly you
00:29:15Brian Atlasout to Oregon okay uh Jake what are the details do you need to know height do you need to know his height height doesn't matter what if he's like
00:29:25Shy Matthews411 hey if that's what God has for me that's fine okay just you know I'd like to talk a little bit more of Theology and like
00:29:34TTS/Donationswhat your beliefs are um and getting to know you where are wives donated
00:29:43TTS/Donations$100 love the show why not ask girls to rate themselves on the wife's scale as well as the regular who scale too many rate themselves as a tenth but it's not
00:29:54Brian Atlasthe wife's scale uh okay well it we'll come back to the single the single relationship stuff real quick uh what do
00:30:03Brian Atlasyou rate yourself on a scale of one to 10 on the wife scale oh like how zero being not wifey 10 being wifey six six
00:30:14Shy Matthews10 and 10 10 and 10 okay 9.2 nine eight out of 10 I'm still healing um I I don't I'm going to
00:30:26Shy Matthewsabstain from myself um I don't know where I'm at with that I think that's only something God knows and prepares us for so I will have stting you're going
00:30:35Brian Atlasto abstain from your wifey score yeah I'm going to abstain do you have a self assessment
00:30:43Monicano okay what about you uh an eight I'll give myself a solid seven I would say five yeah why five
00:30:56Brian Atlasbecause there's things that I need to work work on that I feel that can value myself and then it can value my partner okay interesting uh five on the wifey scale Andrew what are you on the
00:31:07Brian Atlaswifey scale I guess I would be a zero but my wife is a 10 on the wife scale there you go there you go okay uh that was an interesting one I feel like we should
00:31:18Brian Atlasalmost just jump in immediately to this ask everyone to rate their looks a little early on this one but it I need to stop stop cursing I don't know when I'm sick I start cursing more
00:31:30Brian Atlasum ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 starting with you your looks looks scale 1 to 10 uh I don't know I guess a nine and a
00:31:42Brian Atlashalf you want if you want to just say 10 you should I'm not conceited I'm not going to say 10 oh so you're not conceited but okay 9.5 okay I can be
00:31:51Britney Crispconceeded what about you I think 9.8 9.8 okay 7.5 I could be better I can't rate myself of course you can rate yourself I really
00:32:01Britney Crispbeauty is in the eye of the beholder so I feel like it just be if I rate myself and how I look looks different to everyone else if I say 10 people say too conceited I'm not scared to be too
00:32:12Andrew Wilsonconceited I love myself but I just can't rate myself it breaks the scale that doesn't make any sense because you're if you're on your wife's scale you put like
00:32:21Andrew Wilsonnine or 10 that's also a subjective metric looks isn't a title wife is a title looks is image yeah but they're both a subjective metric so why could you rate yourself with one but not the
00:32:34Britney Crispother that makes no sense I can rate myself for a wife because I know what it takes for me to be a wife to my husband not just being a wife but to my husband so I know what it takes to do the task
00:32:45Britney Crispand how to fulfill it but now are you are you married I've been proposed to five times but I'm not married by choice you're not married have you ever been married
00:32:55Britney Crispno so and what how do you what like what's your reference point here I know what it takes for me to be a wife and how to fill fulfill that job
00:33:06Andrew Wilsonbut for me well is well is being a wife just you or is it also what your husband thinks of you being a
00:33:15Britney Crispwife is a title that my husband gives me so not just what my husband thinks of me if he thinks I'm the most amazing wife ever calls me a 10 this that and the
00:33:25Britney Crispthird and I think I'm a zero I'm still attend because of what my husband thinks but asking me to rate myself based on what I think of myself I can't do that I
00:33:36Andrew Wilsonthink everything is but you can do it as a wife I don't I don't understand that that makes no sense to me I don't know how you can rate yourself as a wife but not be able to rate your looks that's it's like I mean it's the subjective
00:33:47Andrew Wilsonmetric it's like asking how great do you do your job if you work at Wendy's I think working yeah I feel like Wendy's workers get self assessment test where they answer that question right yeah because they judge themselves based on
00:34:00Britney Crispthe task of what they're doing for that job but if you ask them how great do you look in that uniform that you're wearing that you have to wear they're going to say oh I feel like they could answer that too right maybe but it's more like someone
00:34:13Britney Crispelse thinks they look amazing and they think they look like a five do they look amazing or do they look like a five which one is it I think I look great in the pants but the shirt isn't all that great I think my hair looks nice in the scoot the split over one well I mean but
00:34:25Andrew Wilsonthat sounds like you can adequately rate yourself in a Wendy's uniform then right like don't you don't you rate yourself for uh how you're dressed or how you look or things like that don't
00:34:37Britney Crispyou give yourself a rating and that determines what your fashion sense is to begin with I don't rate myself I think if it looks great it looks great if it doesn't it doesn't I take it all yeah
00:34:47Andrew Wilsonbut but if it looks great great being high like 8 n or 10 and if you think you look great that being high as in 8 n or 10 which of those ratings for great
00:34:58Britney Crispwould you give yourself well they just say looks like let the girls rate themselves in their looks so are you basing me in an outfit or basing me naked it depends well no I'm not I'm not basing
00:35:10Andrew Wilsonanything it's a self assessment but I'm saying that clearly you can assess yourself because you do it all the time that's how you know what hairstyle you use what makeup you use what dresses you wear all that right I might assess
00:35:21Andrew Wilsonmyself but I don't rate it well right but if you were to take that self assessment and give a rating to it what would you rate it that's the question
00:35:31Jasmine RoseInfinity breaks my sale okay so like 10 yeah I think we just put down a 10 for that go ahead okay um we are fearfully and wonderfully made God is the Potter
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00:36:01Brian Atlasbitty of thought four no wives no wives okay uh wow all right
00:36:12Brian Atlasuh I think you were responding go ahead um respond to that yeah oh well no no no just the initial question so
00:36:24Jasmine Rosescripture says we're fearfully and wonderfully made and God doesn't make mistakes he's the Potter we the clay I believe everyone's a 10 out of 10 and your husband or your wife will think so as well because God Hand pick them for
00:36:36Brian Atlasyou every hold on I don't think I've ever heard that one everyone's a 10 out of 10 yeah yes everyone's a 10 out of 10
00:36:45Brian Atlasyes so there's no when you look at somebody you make no differentiation when it comes to you can't determine between say
00:36:56Jasmine Rosetwo people if one is more attractive than the other you cannot make that determination I could see how the World Views them but since I'm filled with the Holy Spirit I see a person's soul instead of their flesh because I'm born
00:37:08Brian Atlasagain so I have a different lens well use the lens of that the world
00:37:16Jasmine Roseuses I don't want to why not because it's not it's not good I've I've my intimacy and relationship with
00:37:26Jasmine Rosewith God is worth more than lowering myself back to where I used to be so you when it comes to dating you have you have no regard for the person's
00:37:38Jasmine Rosephysical appearance no I don't zero not anymore I promise not anymore I've dated fat skinny tall short all Races it's the
00:37:47Brian Atlasheart yep how tall was your last boyfriend six foot oh that's interesting how tall are
00:37:55Brian Atlasyou 5'9 so only 15% of men in this country are 6 foot or taller maybe it's just happen stance that you ended up with a guy who is is above average in
00:38:08Andrew Wilsonheight but I'm God wanted her to have a six foot tall man I guess okay um right is that I mean this
00:38:20Andrew Wilsonis the thing the the statement you're making is actually absurd that is not a Christian ethic to make the determination that you can have preferences for attraction that's ridiculous on its face where on Earth
00:38:31Andrew Wilsondid you come up with this other than head cannon that you being a Christian means that you can't have preferences for what you're attracted to yeah I understand what you're saying
00:38:42Jasmine RoseI'm just saying for me I don't have preferences like I know some people might prefer there's nothing wrong with having a preference the way that I've always been even before being a
00:38:54Jasmine RoseChristian I've dated you know Asian white tall short my first boyfriend was Asian he was 5'7 that was my first love what are you trying to say
00:39:03Andrew Wilsonabout Asian people with that statement I was you're almost trying to say that I it's almost what uh okay so look let's
00:39:13Andrew Wilsonjust make it super easy would you do you want to have children yes okay so would you date a man who could not give you children no okay well then it sounds
00:39:26Andrew Wilsonlike you have preferences M and that's okay right that's totally fine for you to have that preference isn't it yeah and I can answer that if that's okay so um last year it was so funny like four days
00:39:39Jasmine Rosebefore what I'm about to tell you I was like I was praying I was like God I'm okay if you don't give me kids I just want whatever you want for me 4 days later I had a vision that I had a husband and
00:39:49Brian Atlaskids what so that's my go into the Asian thing a little bit there because you said I even dated an Asian man what do you mean by that well do you think that Asian men
00:40:01Jasmine Rosedon't compare to no well that's sort of sounds like what you're saying I guess I was using the comparison well for one I'm half asian okay so but but two it
00:40:11TTS/Donationswas fresh in my mind because I know he's shorter than the 6foot man grid One Motorsports donated $100 if everyone you date is attend you
00:40:22TTS/Donationsshould be a wife already the amount of dulu is epic I thought I was going to take it easy tonight be chill but I can see we need all the smoke prepare
00:40:32Brian Atlasyourselves you have you have invoked his wrath yes you've invoked grid One Motorsports wrath watch out um okay so uh the rating thing are you just not
00:40:43Brian Atlaswanting to uh do a rating you said everyone's a 10 so I assume you're saying that you're 10 out of 10 okay you're a 10 out of 10 everyone's a 10 yes so if I showed you
00:40:53Brian Atlassay a picture of Brad Pit when he was young and and then a picture of Donald Trump currently I don't know where you maybe you're a fan of Donald
00:41:04Brian AtlasTrump uh Donald how about Joe Biden because I feel like maybe you lean a bit more conservative am I right conservative is I would say so lean more towards all
00:41:14Brian Atlasright who would you say in your view would you prefer dating just based off of their level of attractiveness Joe
00:41:23Brian AtlasBiden or Brad Pit when he was young you wouldn't have any
00:41:32Jasmine Rosepreference I've never had an age preference I've dated younger than me my age and older just looks just looks without the age Joe Biden this is like a Benjamin Buton
00:41:45Brian Atlasthing because I'm bringing Brad Brad P into this so just assume their age is the same but oh Benjamin Buton thing sure oh age the same Brad Pit young how
00:41:58Brian Atlashe looked when he was young he's still attractive guy versus Joe Biden who's ever a Believer that's my answer that's not the question they're both okay great they're both Believers thank
00:42:09Jasmine Roseyouw you made it easy for me oh at that point I would just pray and then God will tell me which one I rely on God to tell me oh my God wait hold on
00:42:21Andrew WilsonI I have something I have something do you rely on hang on I got to ask you do you rely on God to tell you if you like uh pepperoni on your pizza or not oh we'll come back donated $100 thank you
00:42:32TTS/DonationsMr Monica and Bri this is Julian Gutierrez please give my info to the beautiful Asian honey you're right yes the one with the helmet and you can the
00:42:41Darraone with the tattoo I likey uh she's not your type bro oh is this like a friend of yours she's not your type but I ask a question don't you think that God gave you attraction like
00:42:53Darrathat's a gift from God to be attracted to somebody looks wise or looks are a gift from God as well wait do you want to answer that really quick then Andrew you had your pepperoni thing yeah yes
00:43:05Jasmine Roseyes so definitely of course like attraction does Aid and you know obviously physical attraction AIDS you know in the sexual attraction like when you're married you know it it's more
00:43:17Jasmine Roseit's more intimate God gave sex as a gift you know so I would say yes it does but it's not the main thing that's an additive that's a gift outside of what's really important which is the heart of
00:43:29Andrew WilsonGod and following in his will yeah what's what's going on here is something you should assess because the gal who was next to you had a criticism and she's a Christian her criticism was
00:43:40Andrew Wilsonabout essentially uh falling short of the glory of God is one of the criticisms she has of the show and yet what I'm hearing from you is actually py signaling this is py signaling saying
00:43:52Andrew Wilsonit's so over-the-top ridiculous to make the claim that you have no personal preferences I don't even know where to begin do you like pepperoni on your pizza I actually don't like pepperoni at
00:44:03Jasmine Roseall great was that did you were you informed of that by a vision from God God made my taste bud so apparently not my not my vision though no just
00:44:12Andrew Wilsonnaturally right wait wait so your taste buds informed you yeah okay got you so when you are attracted to a person how do you know that that's God telling you
00:44:25Jasmine Rosethat you're attracted to or if it's you telling you that you're attracted to him because of your own personal preferences right that's that's a really good question so I actually this is one of my prayers you know and I'm just going to be bold and say it one of my
00:44:38Jasmine Roseprayers is God I Surrender my attractions to you and I'll tell you when I first started praying that the way I was attracted to people changed prior to that prior I started
00:44:49Jasmine Rosesurrendering to God I was attracted to like guys that were just not healthy for me and it was also because I wasn't healed the more God heals you the more you're attracted to
00:45:00Andrew Wilsonhealthy yeah so did you yield over your taste buds to God as well yes okay so God doesn't want you to eat
00:45:10Andrew Wilsonpepperoni apparently not it doesn't taste good that doesn't sound slightly ridiculous to you no no it's not at all so you yielded
00:45:21Jasmine Roseyour taste buds over to God yes God doesn't want you to eat pepperoni right right that's not your taste buds that's God doesn't want you to eat pepperoni yeah I'm sure I think God works in everything every little thing
00:45:34Andrew Wilsonyeah like your desires your emotions yeah okay yeah we can come back to this otherwise we're going to we're going to bog the the panel down with it but what you're saying is ridiculous and I can demonstrate to you
00:45:46Andrew Wilsonwhy is Brian gone we got a few minutes then go okay great so the the question becomes right you you are supposed to have your grounding in biblical belief I'm I'm guessing you're some kind of
00:45:59Jasmine Roseprotestant right what kind of denomination are you I would say if I had to pick one non- denominational but I believe in both the Old and New Testament so everything yes non- denominational yes I have a
00:46:11Andrew Wilsonrelationship with God yeah so this makes you The Interpreter right you're The Interpreter of the Bible an interpreter would you mind a elaborating on that yeah how do you know what you're reading in the Bible is true
00:46:23Andrew Wilsonthe Holy Spirit leads me and gives me Revelation of wisdom now let's assume for a second somebody's next to you who also claims to have the holy spirit inside of them and that's how they get Revelation and you have a disagreement
00:46:35Jasmine Rosehow do you know which one of you is Right o I love I love this I love your question so of course that's happened and and I've had you know conversations that got heated but also like God's
00:46:46Jasmine Rosereally worked in me and and it's okay to disagree you know and some people don't agree they it's not okay to disagree only one thing can be right two things can't be right two interpretations can't
00:46:58Jasmine Rosebe right only one can be right how do you know which one's right so so if you're talking about conviction conviction is different than everybody for example I got convicted personally I can't drink at all cuz if I do I won't just drink one that's my own conviction
00:47:12Andrew Wilsonon drinking another Christian could drink a shot and they're done and God they don't feel any conviction from God so conviction that's not answering my question my question again is that if somebody's next to you if the G who's
00:47:23Andrew Wilsonsitting next to you right now yeah claims that she has a vision from God and interprets a text alternative to how you interpret the text how do you know you're
00:47:34Jasmine Roseright honestly I wouldn't ask that question I would hear her out and then I would I would ask God I'm like God why did she tell me that are you trying to tell me something it it I think it's to make sure that Pride doesn't enter your
00:47:46Andrew Wilsonheart especially as a Believer this does not answer the question I'm glad that you would say that how would you know you were right because I trust that God will let me know and and that God is always going to so you're always going to be the one
00:47:58Andrew Wilsonwho's right then cuz God's always going to tell you so if somebody if somebody else says that they have the power of the holy spirit inside of them they've experienced the same Revelation that you have okay and then whatever it is that
00:48:11Andrew Wilsonyou think God says to you you're The Interpreter you're going to have the correct interpretation no matter what aren't you for my life for for me I it's not my job to worry about everyone else
00:48:24Andrew Wilsonthat's God's job it's it's my job to control what I can control and what he tells me that's I thought your job was to make disciples of the nation yes and and love okay well then you do have to worry about what your neighbor's doing and what everybody else is doing too if
00:48:38Andrew Wilsonyou want to make disciples out of them don't you right without judgment but to exhibit the forgiveness and Grace of Christ which is what she was trying to say earlier and you and you can do those things you're not they're not exclusive to each other right it's or exclusionary
00:48:50Andrew Wilsonto each other so the the question becomes again how do you know that you're giving them the right interpretation other than because you think so just keep seeking the Lord and he'll reveal it that's all I know and what if they reveal it he reveals to
00:49:04Andrew Wilsonsomebody else that your interpretation is wrong how do you know you're right honestly it's just it's faith it all boils down to faith faith on the things that are not seen But hoped for
00:49:15Andrew Wilsonthat's the definition of faith I just want to let you know that by by this example you're essentially saying that you're the ultimate Arbiter of God's word you personally you are the ultimate
00:49:27Andrew WilsonArbiter of God's word well you have to be because anybody else who has any sort of different Revelation than you do about the scripture that you read which is alternative to it you're going to believe your interpretation this means you think that you are the ultimate
00:49:39Jasmine RoseArbiter of God's word so I have spiritual mothers and fathers from my church that they they Mentor me so I don't know everything of course like I'm still going to grow there's so much wisdom that I don't know
00:49:52Jasmine Roseso I'm not saying that I know everything but I know enough for today that's why God says he gives us our daily bread so someone else's Revelation on something could be different than mine but God
00:50:03Jasmine Roseknows what we need and like he were saying he comes to us where we're at so I'm not saying that I'm Jesus I follow Jesus I'm a servant of Christ but I am not him and if one of those spiritual
00:50:15Andrew Wilsonmothers or fathers inside of your church has a different spiritual Revelation than you do when they're interpreting text yeah how do you know that yours or theirs is right we have faith and if you seek God the
00:50:28Brian AtlasBible says if you seek God you will find him period That's the answer on it takes Faith uh so everybody's a 10 amen come on everyone's a 10 I don't
00:50:39Brian Atlasknow if you actually answer did you ever answer my question about the Brad Pit versus no Joe Biden thing you said if they're both everybody equally attracted just be honest that's
00:50:51Brian Atlaslike an answer from God then right like whoever you're attracted to like whatever she's not she doesn't feel any physical attraction soing for anybody CU everybody's equally attractive in her eye everyone's attraction Works
00:51:04Jasmine Rosedifferently I think we need to note that as well said everybody's a tent right yeah because we're all made in the image of God I truly believe that I truly believe that that's my heart
00:51:17Alexis Morganyeah can't hear but it's like the same way that you know that you don't like pepperoni you would know if you don't like Joe Biden and you do like Donald Trump or whatever the comparison he did was so you do have an answer in your head you're just not
00:51:29Brian Atlasspeaking it would you date somebody who's obese morbidly obese I have before you have before do you would you prefer to date someone who's in good physical health versus who has a fit body versus
00:51:41Brian Atlassomebody's who's morbidly obese you have no leaning if you're talking about healthwise since our body is a temple
00:51:50Jasmine Roseyes of course it would you know be probably in a sense a wiser choice if because if someone's actively taking care of themselves but also someone could also be obese and still be taking care of themselves it could be a health
00:52:03Jasmine Rosecondition that they have so you know that's a very open-ended question but I would just say i' like I said I've been attracted to skinny and and obese so you're saying I mean we're so getting off the rails here but you're saying
00:52:15Brian Atlasthat somebody could be morbidly obese but be in good health I've I've met some people that conditions and they worked out every by virtue of being morbidly obese you are are almost definitely you you are not in
00:52:27Darragood health that is a heal being morbidly opes is not healthy healthy people on Noah's Arc to like right like the strong certain animals certain things wouldn't
00:52:38Jasmine RoseGod want you to date a healthy person not an obese person for yourself yeah what do you think yeah I see what you're uh saying so um basically I've met a couple people with conditions and they would work out every day they ate actually healthier than me but they were
00:52:51Jasmine Rosestill big because of the conditions they had medically so that's what I'm referring to too there's a difference between like someone you know eating a lot and getting you know obese because of their diet strictly and they don't care about the body and there's a
00:53:03Jasmine Rosedifference between someone having a condition and then being obese because and they're doing everything in their power to help themselves and their weight so why would God put a good person in bad Health do you think
00:53:15Andrew Wilsonthat's that's a whole thing that's a whole thing hang on I maybe let me try this from a a slightly different angle from from your perspective the best that I can I think it's assume for a second
00:53:26Andrew Wilsonthat you have preferences but through faith you're able to ignore some of those preferences for maybe things you think are greater good like virtue or personality or things like that right
00:53:38Jasmine Rosewould that be more accurate to say yes I'm definitely attracted to the personality the way someone speaks to me the way their heart is cuz that's part of their soul yes gotcha okay so you're
00:53:49TTS/Donationsable to ignore possibly some of the alter $100 only Andrew can take a 1 to 10 rating question and turn it into dressing down all of this woman's
00:54:00TTS/Donationsbeliefs imagine if you had just said a number than thousands of people wouldn't be questioning your faith are n any any well I'm not I'm not
00:54:10Andrew Wilsonquestioning her faith to be fair uh at all that's not the intent but we're going to have theological disputes that's going to happen so yeah but that
00:54:19TTS/Donationsbut that I grid One Motorsports donated $100 God Gave You Free Will for a reason and you seem to be completely ignorant of
00:54:30TTS/Donationsnot only his holy word but also your place in the world you need a new church and you need to take accountability in life so um so back to this if you're
00:54:42Andrew Wilsonable to ignore physical preferences that you might ordinarily have for these other things I think that that's fine and that's a fair argument yeah but you would still admit that you do have some
00:54:55Jasmine Rosephysical preferences well I definitely like feel attraction you know after I like someone's personality I'm like oh wow like your hair is nice your Skin's nice
00:55:05Andrew Wilsonyes right that's not the initial I guess I guess if we're just judging on rating just asking you take the preferences for what you would consider physical
00:55:14Andrew Wilsonattraction and only that um and give us the rating that way rather than the alternative of trying to mix a holistic of a person in while I can understand that in some cases a person's
00:55:26Andrew Wilsonpersonality may make them more or less attractive to you you can also include that metric for yourself in a self-rating system so you can say how attractive you think you are and base all of that on a holistic as