Perfect "10" WILL NOT Settle For LESS Than Jake Gyllenhaal?! SUPER FERAL PANEL?! | Dating Talk #240
Date: 2025-04-28
Duration: 7h 18m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_03Taylor Moore(guest)
SPEAKER_04Carly Rose(guest)
SPEAKER_05Samantha (Tucson)(guest)
SPEAKER_07Jim Bob(guest)
SPEAKER_09Ruby(guest)
SPEAKER_10Lily Fior(guest)
SPEAKER_12Felicity(guest)
SPEAKER_13McKinley(guest)
Key Moments
00:04:24
IntroAll guests introduced including jiu-jitsu athlete, virgin soccer player, adult film parodist
01:36:00
Key MomentCarly reveals she does not want children — becomes central debate topic
04:07:00
ControversyBear vs man: Brian draws racism analogy. If bear over Black person = racist, then bear over man = sexist.
05:45:00
Key MomentSamantha: son's father killed in shooting. Subsequent boyfriend shot 6 times.
06:04:00
Key MomentSamantha: mother kicked her out at 16, pressured into abortion. Still took back cheating abusive boyfriend.
06:52:00
Key MomentTaylor Moore challenges Jim Bob to fight at her gym. Would double-leg and arm bar him.
Topics Discussed
00:04:24
Guest Introductions
Taylor Moore (jiu-jitsu), Carly Rose (model/no kids), Samantha (OF/single mom), Ruby, Lily Fior (adult parodist), McKinley (virgin soccer player), Jim Bob.
00:38:00
Jiu-Jitsu and Infidelity Risk
Tom Brady/Gisele example. Is jiu-jitsu's physical intimacy an infidelity risk?
01:30:00
Marriage and Children Debate
Carly does not want children. Jim Bob: women waste 10-15 fertile years. Ruby says men in 20s also waste time.
03:09:00
Jake Gyllenhaal and League Theory
Carly insists she matches Jake Gyllenhaal's level. Brian explains league theory.
04:07:00
Bear vs Man
Samantha/Ruby/Carly choose bear. Taylor/McKinley/Felicity choose man. Brian draws racism analogy.
05:18:00
Samantha Tweets/TikTok Roast
Brian reads Samantha's tweets. Jim Bob improvises country song from them. Samantha's stories: son's father killed, boyfriend shot 6 times, mother forced abortion, Nashville deception.
06:48:00
Body Count Round
Samantha ~60. Taylor 6. McKinley 0 (virgin). Lily declined.
06:52:00
Taylor vs Jim Bob Fight Challenge
Taylor challenges Jim Bob to come to her gym. She'd double-leg and arm bar him.
Transcript
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Taylor Moorefrom, and education. Go ahead. My name is Taylor Moore. I'm 25. I'm a full-time jiu-jitsu athlete and YouTuber. And I also graduated from UCLA with a degree
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Taylor Moorein sociology and music industry. And I'm from Vista, Cal. Oh, I currently live in Vista, California. I'm from Lancaster, California. But you
00:04:55
Brian Atlaspretty much always lived in California. Yeah. Okay. Got it. And you said music industry. What is that? Um, it's basically like music, business, and
00:05:05
Brian Atlasmarketing and stuff like that. Got it. Okay, cool. and sociology. What what is what is that? What is so what is that? Like the study of people in the world and specialized topics. My
00:05:16
Taylor Moorespecialization there was like deviant sociology. Like deviant? Yeah. Sociology. Well, that's like what I was focusing on in my coursework. What is that? Um like if somebody's doing
00:05:27
Taylor Mooresomething abnormal like mental disorders or if somebody like um like is up to something out of the ordinary. That's what I was. So like psychopathy,
00:05:37
Taylor Mooresomebody's a psychopath, a sociopath, would it encompass mental illnesses like borderline personality disorder, bipolar, or is that not considered deviant? Um, it's more so that's more a question for like a psychologist.
00:05:51
Taylor MooreSociologists are like studying like the overall trends of society. So criminality would that be a component? Okay. What about um are you do you have deviant
00:06:02
Brian Atlaspsychology? No. You're not deviant? No. Okay. All right. What about you? Hi, I'm Carly Rose. Oh, wait. Sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt. What belt are you in
00:06:13
Brian AtlasBrazilian jiu-jitsu? I'm a purple belt. Purple belt. Okay. So, if anybody of you get out of line, she's going to choke she's going to choke you guys out. So, they would have to sign a waiver before the choke out. Yeah. I'm not going to
00:06:26
Brian Atlasjail. You can always defend me though. Like self-defense, you know? Huh? Like if somebody's like trying to attack me or Felicity, like you can come to our defense. Is that in the Was that in No, it wasn't
00:06:37
Brian Atlasin the release, but you can you can do it. So, this was your verbal release. You can defend us. You can like if uh Carly over here tries to put us in like
00:06:48
Carly Rosea arm bar or some [ __ ] you can. Sure. Okay. You can get her. Very cool. Go ahead. Okay. I'm Carly Rose. I'm 26 years old. I'm from Los Angeles. And um
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Carly Roseas far as what I do, I'm a model and an actress. And occupation, yeah, model, actress, sorry, education. I I didn't go to college, but I graduated high school
00:07:10
Carly Rose3 years really so I could start working. And I just became an entrepreneur for the most part. I I worked hard most of the jobs I did and then became an entrepreneur, marketing business. Um so I got a marketing. You graduated high
00:07:23
Carly Roseschool early? Yeah, three years early. Were you like emancipated early? M no I wasn't emancipated I just started to work early as early as possible. Yeah and yeah. Do you have your degree? Um I
00:07:36
Carly Rosedon't have a degree but I have certificates for different things. Um I'm becoming a notary. I just waiting for the final packet in the mail. Okay. Are you currently in college or anything? No, but I have a lot of different things that I do. Like I said,
00:07:48
Brian Atlasmodeling and acting, so that's what keeps me busy. You do content creation, too? Yes, I'm an influencer. Okay. Do you do adult content? No. No. Have you ever done adult content? Okay. All
00:07:59
Samantha (Tucson)right. Uh, cool. What about you? U, my name is Samantha. I'm 29. I'm from Tucson, Arizona. Uh, I do Only Fans and
00:08:09
Brian AtlasI graduated from NAU with psychology. Bachelor's in psychology. Bachelor's of Science or Arts? Arts. Arts. Okay. And you're, you said you're from Arizona,
00:08:21
Brian Atlas29. And you do Only Fans. Is that correct? Mhm. Also, you any other kind of sex work, stripping, escorting, anything like that? Um, I was a stripper for a while. For a while. Okay. Yeah, probably from I stopped like a year and
00:08:32
Samantha (Tucson)a half ago. 2 years ago now. Okay, got it. What about you? Um, my name is Marti. I'm 27. I'm from Tucson. I live
00:08:43
Samantha (Tucson)in Phoenix right now. Um, I dance though, so I'm a dancer and I didn't go to college. No, I did graduate high school. Didn't go to
00:08:55
Samantha (Tucson)college. Sure. And uh you're from Arizona, you said? Yeah. Okay. Got it. And you for work you do what? I'm a dancer. Dancer. Only fans. No, I used to for a little bit, but I had took some
00:09:07
Lily Fiortime off. I just need to get it back on going. Okay. All right. What about you? Hi, I'm Lily Fior. I'm 35 years old and
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Lily FiorI do Only Fans. I won my limited company um that does only funds and I do content creation and YouTube and I didn't really
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Lily Fiorfinish university but I studied uh mark business and marketing but because I was working and studying it just was impossible for me to finish. Uh where
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Lily Fiorare you from? Oh sorry yeah I am Italian but I live in England. How long have you been living in England? I've been living in England for 13 years. 13 years. Wow. What part? London. I live near Manchester now.
00:09:50
Brian AtlasManchester. What part of Italy are you from? Modina. City of That's where they make uh balsamic vinegar. Cuz that that's what they put on Tra the Trader Joe's. Balsamic
00:10:02
Brian Atlasvinegar. Mana. Okay. I don't think that's like the real one you have here. Probably not. Probably. You know what? They I think they import it. They probably import it from Italy. I will have to try to see. Probably. Uh and so
00:10:14
Lily Fiorwhat brings you to the US? Oh, well, you would say I'm on vacation because when I say I'm on holiday, they don't understand. Um, so yeah, I'm on vacation visiting. You ask for the first time.
00:10:25
Brian AtlasOkay. And uh I'm trying to think. Did you said you didn't finish college or university? Is that correct? Okay. All
00:10:33
McKinleyright. Got it. What about you? Um, my name is McKinley. I'm 18 and I am a student and I major in communications.
00:10:43
McKinleyUm, I also play soccer and I'm an expo and I live in North County, San. What's Expo? It's like a food runner and a hostess. Got it. Okay. In soccer, what position do you play? Are you a striker?
00:10:55
McKinleyI can play anything, but I don't know if you know by number, but I play seven, eight, seven, 11, 9, and 10. I'm playing defense right now, which is like completely different. All right. Okay,
00:11:06
Brian Atlascool. Uh, and you play are you in you're in university now? Yeah, I'm I'm at Mira Costa, but it's a community college. I'm trying to um transfer. You play uh soccer for the college though, right? Yeah, I do. Okay, cool. Is that a
00:11:19
Brian Atlasdivision one? Uh or no, it's different for the the JC's. It's uh Yeah, I'm pretty sure all JC's are D3. It's their own division, I think. Yeah. Okay, cool. Are you planning to transfer to a four-year? Yeah, I don't really know
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McKinleywhat I want to do yet. And so, that's why I'm majoring in communications because it's super broad. It's like business except I'm not good at math. Okay, cool. What about you? Hola say
00:11:40
RubyRuby. Um I am 27 and I live here in Santa Barbara. I uh do uh like Amazon private labeling, e-commerce, listing
00:11:52
Brian Atlasmanagement and that's me. Okay. And uh where are you from? Um originally from Mexico. Okay. When did you move to the US? When I was a child. Okay. Got it. And you've
00:12:05
Rubyalways lived in Santa Barbara or other parts of California? I've always been living in Santa Barbara County, so I haven't left Santa Barbara County. Okay, got it. And education, any schooling?
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RubyYes. Um, I go to the community college here, Santa Barbara City College, uh, majoring in communications. Okay. You have any other degrees like associates degrees or anything like
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Brian Atlasthat? Um, I have like um in accounting. So like accounting and communications. You have an associates degree in accounting? Yeah. Okay. Got it. Uh, have you kind of just been like working this whole time or? Yeah, I've
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Rubyjust been working. Um, I think I stopped going to school um and then just focused on work and then um recently I went back to school. I want to get my
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Felicitycommunications degree. Okay. All right. Very cool. Felicity, what about you? My name is Felicity. I just turned 19 on Friday. Um, thank you. It's all downhill
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Felicityafter 19. Oh god. I'm from Santa Barbara and I no longer have a job. I just quit so I could be a full-time student in business. Rock and roll. And
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Jim Bobthen my Caucasian. Go ahead, Jim Bob. Hello. I am Jim Bob. Oh, am I echoing or are you guys? Sorry, I can hear you. My
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Jim Bobname Okay. My name is Jim Bob. Um, I'm a uh cartoonist and I run a YouTube uh Made by Jim Bob and my Instagram is made by Jim Bob. Um, I I do commentary on
00:13:36
Jim Bobvarious topics including feminism, uh, theology, some politics, uh, and uh, you know, I try to make it humorous and I'm from uh, Colorado and I'm 44. All right.
00:13:49
Brian AtlasYou look younger than 44. You could pass for 37. Oh, right. There you go. Maybe. Uh, so okay, you're from uh Colorado. Sweet. Do
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Jim Bobyou have a degree from a university or anything like that? A degree? Uh, I have a I'm a metal I have a metal smithing degree. Metal smithing. Um, okay. Yeah, I'm a jewelry making, gold smith, platinum smith. Uh,
00:14:13
Jim Bobthat's a trade school degree. And the other degree I have is basically an associates in art, which is essentially uh toilet paper. M checks out with the
00:14:24
Brian Atlasmetal smithing. You're uh do you make swords and [ __ ] or what do you do? Uh no, I make uh I make basically jewelry. So high-end jewelry I've made.
00:14:35
Brian AtlasYeah. Oh, you make jewelry. Okay. Metal smithing. Okay. Interesting. Oh, that would be a blacksmith, I guess. Can you blacksmith? Um not black I could I could learn
00:14:47
Brian Atlasblacksmithing easily. Uh that's just larger scale metal smithing. So, the same same principles, different metal. Got it. Okay, cool. Uh, before I have every go around once more, there's a couple people that bought some stuff
00:14:59
Brian Atlasfrom our merch store. So, we got OG Ryder bought a I assume a hoodie. Thank you so much, man. Appreciate it. He says, "Love from London." OG, thank you, man. Appreciate it. And then Kaibaka here uh sent in also donation. Thank for
00:15:11
Brian Atlasthe I think you bought a t-shirt, Kaaka. Thank you so much for uh getting that t-shirt. Really appreciate it. And then uh quickly via Venmo notes via the cash app, Thomas sent in seven. Thank you so
00:15:22
Brian Atlasmuch Thomas and Elmer sent in about $3. Thank you, Elmer. Appreciate it, man. Thank you. Thank you. All right, guys. So, going around the table once more, what is your current relationship status? If you're single, how long have
00:15:34
Brian Atlasyou been single? And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in? Starting with you. Go ahead. Can you repeat the question, please? Yeah. So, current relationship status, if you're single, how long have you been single?
00:15:45
Taylor Moorelongest relationship. So, I'm currently in a relationship. Okay. And I my longest relationship was six years. And um I've been with my
00:15:55
Brian Atlascurrent partner for almost two years. Okay. Two years. So, longest six years. When was that? The six-year one. That
00:16:05
Taylor Mooreended uh two and a half years ago. Okay. Who broke up with who? I broke up with him. Why? I was. It started when we were in high
00:16:17
Brian Atlasschool. So, we just kind of grew apart and grew up in different ways. Was he better at jiu-jitsu than you? No, he didn't do jiu-jitsu. Oh, okay. Have you ever um gotten into a scuffle with a romantic partner? No,
00:16:30
Brian Atlasnever. Okay. So, you've never had to like, you know, put somebody in some [ __ ] Your current boyfriend, does he do jiu-jitsu? Yeah, he's also a professional jiu-jitsu athlete. Is he a black belt? No. Okay. Is purple brown?
00:16:42
Taylor MooreMhm. He competes at a high level. Well, purple or brown, which one? Oh, yeah. Well, he's a purple belt, but he competes against black belts. Oh, I see. Okay, got it. No gee. Ghee. All no gee. I don't like geese. You don't like ghee?
00:16:55
Taylor MooreOkay. Yeah. Why is that? I'm just curious why. It seems like people have a stronger preference towards no ghee. Is it just it it's different? Right. I feel like it has more real world application. Um, and I also don't like the feeling of
00:17:07
Brian Atlasthe ghee against my skin. And I don't like these are like a hundred bucks a pop and you need like 20 of them. Oh [ __ ] Okay, makes sense. Checks out. Okay. And uh you said your last the
00:17:19
Brian Atlassix-year relationship ended 2 and a half years ago, but you've currently been in your current relationship for 2 years. So what was the period of time between the breakup of your six-year relationship and meeting your current boyfriend?
00:17:32
Taylor MooreI met him um like six months after I broke up with my ex and then we started dating very quickly after we met. Okay. So, you didn't like know him when you
00:17:42
Taylor Moorewere dating? No. Okay. Got it. Pretty deep. Not a bad rebound, though. Six months. All right. All right. It was a little bit more than that. I guess it was like probably closer to three years
00:17:52
Taylor Moorethat I broke with my ex. Got it. And how did you guys meet? Um I met my now boyfriend at a jiu-jitsu tournament. All right. Nice. There you go. There you go.
00:18:03
Carly RoseWhat about you? Um, so I'm single. Okay. And I've been single not that long. I actually just broke up with my boyfriend, I guess, at the time.
00:18:15
Carly RoseWhat was yesterday? Yesterday. Was yesterday the fashion show? No, Friday. Wait, you broke up with your boyfriend on Friday night? Okay. Yeah. What happened? Um, oh, a lot
00:18:28
Carly Roseof things. Yeah. Uh, so yeah, it's just it was very interesting. We just weren't compatible. Who broke up with who? I broke up with him, but he was spreading rumors that he broke up with me first. Like he was
00:18:40
Carly Rosesaying he told other girls he broke up with me and uh he didn't tell me that, but he was telling other people that, so I made it official. Wait, he was telling people that before
00:18:51
Carly Roseyou guys broke up, correct? Oh, yeah. That's How long were you guys together? Not long. It was very, very short. Yeah, we we didn't even I would say like couple months. No, like weeks like maybe
00:19:03
Carly Rosea week. A week or two. Is a typical LA relationship? That's Yeah. Oh, and so it's like it's not even real. Doesn't even count. Huh? A couple weeks. Okay.
00:19:14
Carly RoseYeah. Uh so, okay. Longest relationship. Longest relationship was five fully. Five years fully and then seven off and on with the same person. So, five years
00:19:26
Carly Rosealtogether. It was like my first real boyfriend. Uh who who broke up with who there? Um so since it was off and on, it was like
00:19:35
Carly Roseso I don't know. The first time we just is almost amalical like we just fell apart in different ways honestly and
00:19:44
Carly Rosethen kept trying to redo it. Okay. And uh you said it was on again, off again. How many times was it on and off?
00:19:57
Carly Rosemore times than I can remember honestly because uh well I guess less than 10. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Uh so you're currently single. Are there any guys in the picture? Uh well I mean I I feel like
00:20:08
Carly Rosethere's opportunities you know like I'm not actively like seeing anybody but you know. Do you have a roster? I mean I would have called I'd call a
00:20:19
Brian Atlasline more than a roster. Okay. That's funny. All right. Have Well, you said you broke up with your boyfriend Friday. Yeah.
00:20:31
Samantha (Tucson)Have you been on a date since? A date since? No. Okay. Yeah. All right. So, I'll just say three days. I guess you What about you? Um, I am single. I would say I'm single. Other people might say
00:20:44
Samantha (Tucson)they're relationship with me, but I say I'm single now. Okay. It's messy. And uh my longest relationship uh probably like
00:20:53
Samantha (Tucson)3 years on and off. All right. And then uh how long have you been single for? Like two years. Two years. Mhm. How many guys are currently in the picture? Two.
00:21:06
Samantha (Tucson)Two guys. Yeah. How long have you been seeing these two guys? Um one for like seven months and the other for like 3 months or so. But the sevenmon
00:21:17
McKinleyone is really toxic. He's usually really toxic. So it's on and off. Okay. Do they know about each other? No. Where are they watching the live? No.
00:21:27
Brian AtlasNo. How they're finding out? They don't even know like what this is. Yeah. Okay. And um what's the So I wouldn't two I
00:21:38
Brian Atlasdon't know if that would be a roster, but have you ever had a roster? Yeah. I mean there's a definitely like I don't know how to explain this. You You're saying there's you So you have the seven-month guy and the three-month guy,
00:21:50
Brian Atlasbut then you have some more. You got side hoes. Yeah, for sure. The show. The show. B show. Um, how many side hoes do you have currently? Like two, but I don't really like I just like to talk to
00:22:02
Brian Atlasthem. I don't really actively like hook up with all of them if that's what you're going to ask next. I feel like you're getting there. You're So you have you said you have two side hoes? Yeah. Okay. Two. So, you're kind of talking to
00:22:15
Samantha (Tucson)four people at the same time. Kind of. What's the biggest the roster has ever been? Like five or six? Six, I guess. But that's just when you're just like dating, you know, like you're just going on dates and some of them last for like a couple weeks. You talk to them. Some
00:22:28
Samantha (Tucson)of them last for like a couple months, but nothing like too serious, I guess. Okay. All right.
00:22:36
Samantha (Tucson)Uh, what about you? Um, I'm single. Um, I've been single for five
00:22:46
Samantha (Tucson)years. Um, my longest relationship is two years on and off. It wasn't like great, but you know, whatever. History,
00:22:56
Brian AtlasI guess. You know, works itself out sometimes. Um. Mhm. So, you've been single for 5 years? Yeah. Is there a guy currently in the picture?
00:23:06
Brian AtlasYeah. Well, not like Yeah. But like Yeah. Okay. Um, so yeah, there's a guy in the
00:23:15
Samantha (Tucson)picture or can you clarify? Yeah. Like, yeah, there's someone around, right? Are you sleeping with him? Yeah. Okay. How long have you been dating him? Oh, we're not dating. Okay. Well, how long have
00:23:27
Samantha (Tucson)you spent time with him? I guess. Like, have you known him? For like years. Years. And have you been hooking up for years? Yeah, him. And like I don't know,
00:23:37
Samantha (Tucson)just sometimes like it's cool. Not. It's cool, but I feel like as you get older, like you can come to mutual agreements with people to have opener
00:23:48
Samantha (Tucson)relationships, I guess. I don't know. Okay. So, you guys have like an open arrangement basically. Um, yeah, cuz he kind of does whatever. I do whatever. You know what I mean? Like, it's cool when you're at a mutual understanding
00:24:00
Samantha (Tucson)with people. Sure. Uh, do you you don't currently have a roster, though? Yeah, there's people there, too. Oh, okay. that you're like there's
00:24:11
Samantha (Tucson)he's like he's like oh yeah so there's some that you're just talking to maybe oh they're cool no like they um like um vacation you know what I mean like if I need help with stuff they're for me like
00:24:24
Samantha (Tucson)mentally um emotionally you know like sometimes if one person isn't understanding you someone else might that's why when people ask like oh do you have a type I don't really have a type because it's like when it comes down to it I feel
00:24:36
Samantha (Tucson)like you're closing yourself off if you have a type, you know what I mean? You're not You could say, "This is my type. This is what I'm sticking with. This what I'm going to be, you know, whatever." And then someone else
00:24:47
Brian Atlascompletely is not really your type, and you're vibing with them more. Okay. And uh so how's the roster looking right now? How many people are are in
00:24:58
Brian Atlasthe picture in some way? I don't know. Looks like, you know, like I don't know. Tell me. That's what I'm trying to compare it to. Like five. You don't need to give me the
00:25:10
Samantha (Tucson)exact number. Five, six. Yeah. No way. No, they're cool. It's cool. Maybe like four, three. Sometimes three and five. You know, between three and five. It's cool. Some somewhere between three and
00:25:20
Samantha (Tucson)five. And what's the biggest the roster has ever been? Oh, only like five. Six. You max out at six. Yeah. Just cuz it's a lot. Like I know. I'm like I don't
00:25:31
Samantha (Tucson)know. Just cuz it's kind of cool sometimes if you think of it like um what one person won't do another person will. You know what do you mean? If you don't want to hang out and go to dinner today or you don't want to go to this
00:25:43
Lily Fiormovie with me, you don't want to do this today, someone else will want to do it with me. Do you uh anybody else here have a roster? Any other clarify what a roster is? Oh, multiple guys. You're
00:25:55
Brian Atlasdating multiple guys basically. Okay. Yeah. So, question for you. Um, do you have like one guy who's really good in bed, one guy who's got
00:26:06
Brian Atlasmoney, one guy who's funny and like you enjoy spending time with him? Like is that when you say you have they I guess they fill different needs. Is that kind of what you're talking about? Um, no. Because when you kind of hold yourself
00:26:18
Samantha (Tucson)different, you expect the same from all the same people but in different types of ways. If that makes sense. Like I'm not going to say, "Oh, this person he [ __ ] me good but he does nothing. Nothing. Nothing." cuz I feel like that don't really do anything for anyone, you
00:26:32
Samantha (Tucson)know? And then it's the same thing. Oh, he has money but he doesn't pick up the phone, he doesn't this, he doesn't that, he doesn't, you know what I mean? You're just looking it for different places. So, if you're looking for someone who has multiple in them. Sometimes it's
00:26:45
Samantha (Tucson)kind of like I just like you and I just like you and sometimes we hang out better doing different Sure. things I guess. Got it. That's why the multiples got to stick around, you know. Going to Carly, have you ever had a roster? Like
00:26:56
Carly RoseI said, I wouldn't call it a roster. I'd call it more of like a line. I have a lot of people a lot of people who literally me and my best friend love this line. Thank you next.
00:27:08
Lily FiorThank you next. Have you ever had a roster? No. Okay. All right. Uh what about you? Oh my goodness. Your relationship status. Single. Okay. For about two two years. Um my longest
00:27:18
Lily Fiorrelationship was about six and a half years. Six years. And I don't have a roster roster. And yeah, in your 6 and a half year relationship, who broke up
00:27:30
Lily Fiorwith who? It was kind of like a mutual breakup because we kind of stayed friends. Um, so yeah, we we were still friends to this day. So that's good. You stayed
00:27:42
Brian Atlasfriends with him. Okay. Got it. And you've been single for 3 years? Two, like almost two. Yeah. Two years. Is there any guy in the picture currently? No guys in the pictures. No guys in the
00:27:52
Brian Atlaspicture. So you've been celibate for two years? Yes. Well, when my job helps. So Oh, you do uh Oh, porn. Okay, got it.
00:28:03
Brian AtlasGot it. Okay. I mean, just solo, but sure. Yeah. Oh, well, have you had intercourse with a man in the past two
00:28:13
Samantha (Tucson)years, three years? Um, I don't think I can. I'm sure she I'm just like I'm sure she has. I don't know. Some people be celibate for long extended period and
00:28:23
Samantha (Tucson)not selling it. You know, she's like solo. That was so good. Solo. I know. That's right. Like um with my ex-boyfriend. Yes. For a video just
00:28:36
McKinleybecause I still trust him. Oh, you do content with your but yeah. Got it. Okay. Okay. What about you? Um I'm single. Well, I've actually never been in a
00:28:48
McKinleyrelationship, but I was kind of involved with someone for like a year, but um we're still friends, so it's like we ended things back I want to say like June of last year. June of last year, right? But he's like he was one of my really good friends brother and they're
00:29:00
McKinleyactually they actually came with me up here. But Oh, just to Yeah, it was um Yeah. So my good friend lives with me and then it's he's best friends with the older brother. Wait, is your your friend
00:29:11
McKinleygirl or guy? It's a guy. Oh, okay. Got it. Yeah. And have you guys had a thing? Who? Your friend? The one you live with? Oh, the one that I lived with. No, you said you came up with a friend. Yeah, I
00:29:23
McKinleycame up with a friend. I was involved with one of them for like a year, but we're still really good friends. But not Wait, so you came up with two guys? Three? Oh, you're here with three guys. Yep. Have you And you had a thing with one of them? Yeah. And you had another
00:29:36
McKinleything with another one of them? No. Oh, just one. One of them lives with me and like my family. No, that's why you said the one like No, I did not have a thing with the one that lived with me. Right. Okay. His brother, right? I see. Um, and
00:29:48
McKinleyso the one you had a thing with, that's the one that lasted about a year. Yeah, about a year. Okay. But you wouldn't consider it a relationship. Yeah. No, I mean, I guess you consider it like I
00:30:00
McKinleyguess we're dating, but we're in high school and like we never went on dates. He never asked me to be his girlfriend. We didn't even go to prom together, so I would not consider him. What was the I
00:30:10
McKinleyguess the nature of your guys's uh relationship? What do you mean? What would you guys do? Uh well, we just hang out a lot. Um he was like I don't know like I would kiss him but we never slept
00:30:22
McKinleytogether or anything. Oh, okay. So, but you guys would um like how frequently I guess would you guys hang out is Well, he's he's actually my neighbor so we would hang out like all the time. Oh, all the time. All the time. So, you guys
00:30:34
McKinleykissed and that's it? That's it. And did did he try more or like um you didn't let him get I mean he was open to it but like I just you weren't feeling it. Yeah. No, it wasn't that I wasn't
00:30:46
McKinleyfeeling it. It just I I just don't want to lose my virginity yet. Okay. You're a virgin. Yes, I am. Oh, you're currently still? I am. Mhm. Oh, okay. There you go. Yeah. No, a lot of people actually whenever I tell people that like just
00:30:59
McKinleywhoever I'm friends with, they actually don't believe me cuz I'm friends with like a lot of boys. So, like I don't know. know I guess cuz I'm friends with a lot of guys they think cuz I'm hanging out with guys I'm sleeping with them but that's how I grew up too. Yeah exactly.
00:31:11
Brian AtlasUh it's okay. People can think what's wrong. Got it. And have you There was that one guy who you were sort of seeing but not really or whatever. Yeah. Uh have have you been I guess romantic with
00:31:20
McKinleyanybody else. Um yeah. I guess there was one other guy. So I've only ever kissed two guys. And the first guy, um, I went to prom with him and then it was like my
00:31:31
McKinleysophomore prom and like at the prom after party, he like tried to kiss me and I didn't really want to kiss him. And then after he kissed me, he like hit me with his teeth and I was so embarrassed. I was like, "This is terrible. Like, I'm never kissing you
00:31:42
McKinleyagain." And then I'm walking away and he calls me a different name. And I come to find out later that that was actually his girlfriend and she knew about me and they're still together. Oh no. Nice. Yeah. Got to love it. Got to love it.
00:31:55
Brian AtlasThat's awesome. Um, yeah, it was terrible. Are you currently Is there any guys in the picture currently or No. Um, no. I mean, I'm single, so like I'll like flirt with guys sometimes, but not
00:32:06
Brian Atlasreally. Gotcha. And are you uh are you waiting until marriage? Waiting for the right one? I don't know. You don't know? I I feel like I've waited I mean, I guess I haven't waited that long cuz I'm
00:32:16
McKinleyonly 18, but I just think that it's like as I get older, I think I'll just want to hang on to it more. That's good. Um, and uh, but do you like is it are you
00:32:28
McKinleyreligious, I guess, or no? Um, not really. I mean, my parents were both very religious and I'm trying to like come back around to like religion, but that's not that's not why they're Christian. Yeah, they're Christian.
00:32:39
McKinleyOkay. That's not why though. I mean, maybe waiting for the right guy. Yeah. And I've just found like a lot of guys that I'll end up liking um and then they'll know I'm like a virgin. They'll like want to sleep with me. And so it's
00:32:51
Brian Atlaslike okay. And then I'll tell them like I don't want to do that and then all of a sudden they're gone and then they weren't worth it in the first place. Right. Right. What do you tell them? Like are you um are you saying I'm waiting for love? I'm waiting for Is
00:33:04
McKinleythere something specific you're waiting for? No. I Well, I just don't want to just sleep with someone I barely know. Okay. Or I like see myself longterm with. You want the time to be right.
00:33:16
McKinleyYeah, I guess. Okay. Are you waiting for love? What? No, I'm not like waiting for anything specifically, but sure. Like I people ask me, I just say I don't know. I'm just not Okay, that's good. All
00:33:28
McKinleyright, cool. And uh question. You said you have a bunch of male friends. Do you have female friends? Yeah, I do. I just don't have as many. I had a brother growing up and I was really close with
00:33:39
Brian Atlasmy brother's friends and so I've just over time I hung out with them a lot in high school. of your uh of your female friends uh have they lost their
00:33:49
Brian Atlasvirginity? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, you're kind of lone wolf the lone wolf on that. Okay. Do you find just curious that your
00:33:58
Brian Atlasfemale friends have ever like tried to do like peer pressure? Not like insane pressure, but have they ever pressured you or made fun of you for Uhuh. No. Most of my female friends um they're
00:34:10
McKinleylike a lot of my friends are older than me, so they're always just like, "Yeah, stay like that like you're just a baby. Like a lot of them are actually really happy for me and like they're like it's a good thing. Like they a lot of them like wish that they didn't lose it as
00:34:21
Jim Bobearly as they did and so I'm feeling that right now. You're feeling that? Yeah. Well, that's like I feel better. Who else feels that? Who else feels that on the on the panel tonight? Those what? That they should have waited. Yeah. I
00:34:33
Carly Rosewould have loved to wait longer. Raise your hands. Show of hands. That's all I'm happy for her.
00:34:45
RubyCool. Uh, all right. And, uh, what about you, Ruby? Um, I'm single. I've been single for, um, year and a half. Longest
00:34:56
Rubyrelationship was 3 years. Um, it was mutual. Um, he just moved to another state. Um, didn't believe in marriage.
00:35:06
RubyThat's okay. Okay. Um, oh, wait. He didn't believe in marriage or you didn't believe in marriage. He didn't believe in marriage. Okay. So, you wanted to get married and he didn't. Yeah. And um I kind of knew that starting the
00:35:19
Rubyrelationship. I just I guess I just didn't expect for it to last as long as it did. Um I just kind of entered that relationship without expectations.
00:35:29
RubyAnd um before I knew it, I mean, he asked me to move with him out of state and I was open to it, but I just wasn't
00:35:37
Brian Atlasopen to leaving my family and my friends for something that's uncertain. And so I um did you did he tell you going in
00:35:47
Rubylike, hey, I don't want to get married? Um like I it's not something you say, you know, it's I guess it's something
00:35:58
Rubythat I I guess well this was a conversation that we had as our relationship progressed. It it was it the the topic did come up.
00:36:09
Jim BobOkay. Got it. Got a question about on that. What's the purpose of forming a relationship with a man if the future is not ultimately to be married and to have
00:36:20
Rubychildren? What what else would it be? No, that's that's a great question. Um, I think I was just not thinking. I really wasn't thinking about the future. Like I said, I when I answered that
00:36:30
Rubyrelationship and I didn't have any expectations, you know, I was ignorant, you know, I was in a younger I didn't know. I I guess I just at that
00:36:42
Rubyage when I'm like I think I was like 22, I wasn't thinking about marriage. I I get I had never had a relationship that um you know when you're in high school and you're dating you never think like
00:36:54
Rubyoh this is the person well at least I didn't I I didn't you know I just thought like oh he's my boyfriend. My brain just didn't see past that. Was he
00:37:03
Rubyyour only relationship? No. No he was um I want to say he was my third or fourth. Yeah. So like marriage is like a deal breaker for you if they don't want Now it is now that I'm like aware of it. I I
00:37:15
Rubylike I said, I just wasn't paying attention. I don't know. Um to me, it was just like, oh, I have a boyfriend and that's it. That's it. You know, I didn't think super long term. I wasn't thinking long term at all. It's just I
00:37:27
Rubystarted thinking long term as our relationship started getting young. You're like 22. I don't think a lot of unless you're growing up with that, you are really aware of that being a thing. So, I feel like as you get older, then you kind of realize what you want,
00:37:39
Felicityright? Yeah. So, that that's where my mindset was at at that time. Okay, Felicia, what about you? I'm in a relationship. It's my longest
00:37:48
Jim Bobrelationship, two years. All right, Jim Bob, what about you? Uh, coming up on 10 years with my wife and uh we have children, so um rock and roll. That's
00:38:00
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00:38:26
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00:38:38
Brian Atlashere that I wanted to do. So, where should we begin? Uh, why don't we start with One sec,
00:38:47
Brian Atlasguys. Uh, oh, Taylor, you know what? I'll ask you a question about uh dating and Brazilian jiu-jitsu. So, Tom Brady was dating uh Jazelle or Bunchon or
00:39:00
Brian Atlassomething. I don't know what what what is it? She a supermodel. Yeah. Yeah. and she started getting like MMA or jiu-jitsu classes with like I think
00:39:09
Brian Atlasprivate instruction with this jiu-jitsu guy. And a lot of people believe that the downfall of the relationship I mean perhaps I assume there were other
00:39:19
Brian Atlasfactors. She was rolling around getting choked out by this, you know, authoritative juujitsu teacher. They're touching each other. They're
00:39:31
Brian Atlasthey're, you know, all that stuff. Have you ever have you personally seen a girl go in to jiu-jitsu and she's got some like computer engineer
00:39:41
Brian Atlasboyfriend and then she leaves with like a [ __ ] black belt or some [ __ ] you know? Have you seen that [ __ ] It definitely happens. It happens. Um, but I feel like if a woman is going
00:39:53
Taylor Mooreto be loyal to you, she's going to be loyal no matter what. I feel like it's just a matter of like if your person is already tempted by other things and there's already flaws in your relationship, then of course they're going to stray. But I feel like if you guys already have a
00:40:06
Taylor Moorestrong relationship, then your girl doing Brazilian jiu-jitsu isn't like the problem. You hear a girl don't do any sport. Like yeah, if you think that if you think of jiu-jitsu as like sexual or anything like that, then it's it seems
00:40:19
Taylor Moorelike if you view it that way in the first place, then uh then it's like, well, why do men do it with men? uh is also the question. So, it just kind of begs that question, but uh the sport itself isn't the problem, it's the
00:40:30
Brian Atlasindividuals. Mhm. I there so there's a sentiment online that's like if you're dating a girl, you can't let her do jiu-jitsu.
00:40:41
McKinleyYou can't let her do it because she's going to want to [ __ ] the the [ __ ] instructor or some other person. Wouldn't she just be like in a relationship with them if that's what she wanted to do? What do you mean?
00:40:53
McKinleyLike, okay, so if you're worried about her wanting to like [ __ ] her instructor, wouldn't she just do that? Why would she be with you? Well, the temptation is there. She has the the I don't know. I
00:41:05
Brian Atlasfeel like cheaters are going to cheat regardless. And so it's like Yeah. I mean, sort of, but I think there's a component of if you put two people in a situation, you can like that that sort
00:41:16
Samantha (Tucson)of thing can You mean like bonding? It can escalate, but it could be with any sport. So it could be with any sport like any instructor any type anything because it's like you're teaching
00:41:26
Brian Atlassomeone women are into learning. There are specific activities and venues that if you're involved in I think it can lead to infidelity. For example, I would
00:41:38
Brian Atlassay somebody like if you're dating a woman who works in nightife, I think that there's a higher probability. I'm not saying it's a guarantee. I think there's a higher probability for
00:41:48
Brian Atlasinfidelity. There's alcohol involved. there's, you know, that that whole environment. Um, there's guys who are going to be hitting on her. I think in that environment, infidelity, there's a
00:42:00
Brian Atlashigher probability. No, I mean, not necessarily as long as that person has strict boundaries. Yeah, I I agree with you. I'm speaking I'm not saying every single woman who's who
00:42:11
Carly Roseworks in nightife is going to cheat. I'm saying there's a higher probability. But I feel like with law enforcement, there's a higher probability of people cheating on their spouse. They say sales ners do it too like especially in law.
00:42:24
Carly RoseThey say salesmen have a high probability as well. ing on the road all the time. Airplane uh what they rappers actors the uh Steuart actors are
00:42:36
Jim Bobactors are big too but I think to Brian's point the question is is there a line you draw for inappropriate behavior and appropriate behavior in so far as relationships between men and women when you are in a relationship. I think there
00:42:49
Samantha (Tucson)is but it's just kind of what you're willing to put up with cuz different women and different men are willing to put up with you. Yeah. It's all down to preference and boundary. You know what I mean? Cuz what you're going to deal with someone else isn't I don't think a sport should be Yeah. I don't think a sport is
00:43:02
Brian Atlasdealing with rolling around with a man. I mean, okay does that. No, but let's say she she wasn't doing it, but she wants to get into it. Is it fair for the man to
00:43:14
Brian Atlassay, "I don't want you to do that." I mean, maybe you could be like, "Could you have a female trainer?" Like, if you're that worried, you could just like become a trainer, learn it. I mean, most jiu-jitsu places, it's not segregated like that. There's not segregated
00:43:27
Taylor Mooreclasses. Be nice if it was. There's usually a women's class at most jiu-jitsu gyms, but I but in general, the class, but generally speaking, like I mean, sure, but like the majority of
00:43:38
Carly Rosethe classes are uh are mixed. I would assume they'd be segregated just because no, there's such a difference in strength. Well, there's other women there and maybe like that'll be your
00:43:50
McKinleypart partner. Interesting. Oh, yeah. Like a sparring partner. I've seen that. Well, how about this? Do you guys know acro yoga? No. Have you guys seen that? Acro yoga. Quinton, do you do you do acro yoga? Oh
00:44:03
Brian Atlasmy god. This guy's going to steal your girl. I Quinton, if I had a girlfriend, there's no way. No way I'm letting my girl do acro. Can we um Quinton, can you Google? So, you're in the air doing
00:44:16
McKinleyyoga, right? Google it because I don't know if everybody who's watching activity. No. Yeah, I thought it was. So, it's like Oh, is it the guy that like will throw them in the air? He'll use his legs to lift. I'm sorry, bro. If
00:44:28
Brian Atlasyou're in a relationship, I know plenty of That's like basically foreplay. Well, I mean, there's It just depends on what the boundaries in your relationship are, but um I would never. Yeah, just do
00:44:41
Brian AtlasWindows. Show us in Windows tab. Is it F11? I mean, I can understand the yoga, but that's not really Well, this guy's not really. I mean, I've seen some studs. Yeah. go. But but sure, I'm not scared of this guy, but go ahead. Just
00:44:54
Brian Atlasso they know, if I was a man, I wouldn't mind being pause my relationship.
00:45:02
Samantha (Tucson)Um, so this is today, honey. This is flying on Ed. We're talking about like the buff ones that are all hot. It's fine. Yeah, I think
00:45:13
Brian AtlasI'm still not letting I'm still not letting my girl do it, but I've seen some crazy ones where like more intermingled, right? To learn how to do that. I think it's fair as a guy in a
00:45:25
Brian Atlasrelationship. Hold on, hold on. I think it's fair as a guy in a relationship to be like, "Nah, you can't do that. I'm not letting you go do acro yoga with a dude." Okay. Well, vice versa, right? If you walked in on that, if you walked in
00:45:38
Jim Bobon that, I mean, that, you know, that would be a headline for me. You know, I'd be in the headlines if I walked in on that. Yeah, for sure. You'd murder Jim Bob. You'd murder somebody. Would you murder your wife? Wait, would you I don't know, but I would be in the
00:45:50
Jim Bobheadlines. I won't say specifically, but if you walked in a room and and your wife is doing the, you know, flying in the sky with a dude. I mean, it's intimate. This is what this is what it is. It's intimacy. It's not even like
00:46:03
Carly Rosesexual like kind of thing like cheating. you think of cheating, it's intimate. You couldn't possibly say that it's not intimate, right? I mean, you have to make it that way. It's like people go on Dancing with the Stars. Dancing is intimate, but there there's a lot of
00:46:15
Samantha (Tucson)people on Dancing with the Stars that are married and as long you just your spouse has to be okay with it. How long? I'm not sure. I watched that when I was a kid. Like type of thing and you're
00:46:26
Taylor Moorereally married. It's all up to the people you're in relationship with. I also You have to just Sorry. Go ahead. No, I interrupt you. I'm sorry. It's okay. Um yeah, I just private chat. It's okay. Go ahead. Go ahead. Um just like
00:46:38
Taylor Mooreto your sentiment that you were saying that um if you if a man is in a relationship and he has an objection with his uh partner doing jiu-jitsu. Um I don't necessarily believe that that has
00:46:50
Taylor MooreI think that if you're a man who has an objection with your partner doing jiu-jitsu, then maybe you should just go do jiu-jitsu with her. Like you can just be a part of the sport in that. I don't think that you should necessarily dictate her behavior. I think that you can dictate your behavior around it.
00:47:02
Taylor Moorelike if she really wants to do jiu-jitsu and learn self-defense, then I could understand that as a man, you might want to just go with her. Um, but I don't think that it's like but I think that as you get into the community, you'll realize how um nonsexual the sport is in
00:47:15
Brian Atlasthe first place. I think it's only sexual if you're just to be clear, I'm not like downplaying the martial arts component of jiu-jitsu. It's a
00:47:24
Brian Atlaslegitimate martial arts practice. It's extremely effective. Um, but the there's a component of I'm I'm not I by doing this, I don't think we're sexualizing
00:47:35
Brian Atlasit. It's just look at what happened to Tom Brady. Tom Brady, uh, good-looking, rich, best NFL quarterback ever, status, and he can't hold on to his chick. Do
00:47:47
SPEAKER_11you know if he's a great person? Yeah, he's probably cool. He's probably Tom Brady. Did you like people love LeBron? Guys, guys, one at a time,
00:47:57
Brian Atlasplease. But if Tom Brady can't hold on to like literally one of the he's like a .001% top tier guy. If he can't hold on
00:48:06
Samantha (Tucson)to his chick and she she did jiujitsu. Well, I'm banning my girl from doing jiu-jitsu. But that's cuz Tom Brady don't cuz cuz Tom Brady's not into it. He's like, "You know what? We're not
00:48:18
Jim Bobdoing jiu-jitsu no more. It's not the thing." You're like, "My shorty is not going to jiu-jitsu." I also said said something about it's not being not sexual, but I think you're speaking from a female perspective. If anything, what if like she could protect
00:48:31
Jim Bobyou? I'm not saying like I'm not doubting you ever. I don't know if I would be with a man who required my protection, right? Are you think are you guys saying that a man wrestling with a with a woman in
00:48:42
Jim Bobthis case jiu-jitsu, they're probably fit, probably in good shape, that the manu won't um examine the woman, if you will, uh if they're that close, if they're rolling around with their bodies
00:48:54
Jim Boband stuff, you think it's not sexual from the female perspective, but it's kind of naive to think a man uh having his impulses uh having a woman right in front of him to wrestle with on the
00:49:05
Jim Bobground in all sorts of positions, um you know, isn't going to have some thoughts about that. That's I think what what Brian and I are saying like we would know what the man is thinking in that environment and that's why we wouldn't
00:49:17
Carly Rosewant to put our our woman in that environment right to an extent and that you know everybody has intrusive thoughts so sometimes you can have them and make them go away. I will agree with
00:49:27
Rubythat. I think that um men and women are wired differently and while we may not see it as wrong from our perspective, we don't know exactly how the male mind
00:49:38
Rubyworks and but one thing we do know for sure is that they're very physical. So it might not trigger something for us, but it might trigger something for them.
00:49:47
FelicityVery look driven. Yeah. Something um like based on that video, is it is jiu-jitsu that intimate? Because I mean their faces were like jiu-jitsu is a lot worse. Oh no, that was acro yoga. Yeah,
00:49:59
Felicitythey're like I know. But like is jiu-jitsu like you like touch each other like that or you belly to belly? I mean I have no idea. Legs wrapped around each
00:50:10
Brian Atlasother like crotch inches away from somebody's face if like a triangle at times. Well, for the triangle, you know, but you're also doing that to people of your same gender and men are doing it to
00:50:21
Taylor Mooremen, women are doing it to women and like vice versa. like it all goes um you I understand that people are saying that men are wired differently but um you can't really you can't maintain those thoughts while somebody's trying to
00:50:33
Taylor Moorechoke you and break your arms. Um that's just so I believe that if somebody was um having those intrusive thoughts, they would very quickly be interrupted by the actual sport itself. Cuz if either of
00:50:44
Taylor Mooreyou guys are um actually doing the sport at all, um that's going to very quickly be interrupted by like a submission. Like I trust my partner completely to roll with women and I don't have a
00:50:55
Rubyproblem with that. That's good. That's he's also he also does jiu-jitsu and I don't mind him rolling with women. Yeah, I will say that trust is a big deal in a relationship. Like it's a must if there's no trust. Is there a
00:51:07
Taylor Moorerelationship? Really? I agree. I trust my partner completely and I would never expect that type of behavior from him. So uh and I would hope he would never expect that from me. Right. I had no idea it was that uh which which one of
00:51:19
Jim Bobyou would have a negative reaction if you were in jiu-jitsu and then your your husband or your or your boyfriend said no I don't want you doing that. Um, I think I would just have sorry I
00:51:32
Carly Rosewould have a negative reaction just because I don't know he's telling me I guess if it was my husband it'd be different but it was my boyfriend if I could make money some kind of way doing it or I don't know I I personally
00:51:44
Brian Atlaswouldn't even want to grapple with a guy because it doesn't make any sense to me though. So I wouldn't do it in the first place. I mean, the thing is if you're in a if you're going to jiu-jitsu class regularly, like you're probably going to like be practicing or rolling with with
00:51:57
Carly Roseguys. I think if it's different if it's like an instructor, but I don't I feel like if they're it's going to be another student probably. Yeah. Then I wouldn't prefer to do that in general just because of my own preferences just as I wouldn't want my boyfriend doing it
00:52:09
Rubyhonestly with a woman either. Yeah. And I'll say if a guy is doing jiu-jitsu and he's taken it seriously to want to improve, I think he would want to
00:52:18
Rubypractice with someone in that same Yeah. same level. It wouldn't make sense for him. Well, it's like weight. It's weight class, but I mean I mean Yeah, but like Exactly. It's weight class. So, he would
00:52:30
Rubyfind I would assume the logical thing to do is to find someone in the weight class in that same gender. I agree. You know, I think it's very easy. It doesn't really give you an excuse to like, oh, I'm practicing jiu- jitsu, so
00:52:41
Taylor Mooreum that's why I have a female partner. Um, you know, because you can easily select a male partner. I agree. Right. That that's that's an option. Yeah, that's an option. Conversely, like um if
00:52:52
Taylor Mooreyou're a woman in jiu-jitsu, um like in the example of like my boyfriend, say if he's very skilled and I trust him completely and I'll even recommend that like women roll with him cuz I know he's safe and I know he's not going to like
00:53:04
Taylor Mooredo anything weird or think about them in that way and I know he can show them new moves and stuff like that. So if like I just rolled with that woman and they're just like, "Oh, who else is safe?" And there's not a partner available to them.
00:53:15
Brian AtlasI'm just like, "Oh yeah, grab grab my boyfriend." Mhm. So, I think if you're talking to a girl and you meet her and she's already involved in jiu-jitsu, I think it's going to be a harder sale to
00:53:27
Brian Atlassay stop. But if you've already been you've been dating her for 6 months, a year, whatever, and then she's like, I want to start. I think you have far more leverage in that situation to be like, don't don't like it. Don't do it. It's
00:53:40
Brian Atlasokay to speak this idea. But I'm curious, who here, kind of piggybacking off of Jim Bob's point, who here, cuz I know some of you don't currently do jiu-jitsu, but if you had a boyfriend
00:53:52
Brian Atlasand he said you were considering it and he said no, uh, would you have an issue with that? I think you raised your hand. I would probably have an issue with that. You have an issue with that. Okay. Uh, and so what would that be a breakup
00:54:03
McKinleyfor you? Um, I mean, I wouldn't break up with someone over that. I mean, I would just do the jiu-jitsu if I wanted to do it. And it's like if it's a problem to you that much, like I guess it's a
00:54:14
Brian Atlasproblem to you. Sure. So I think I mean I think the guy's position would essentially be well you can go do it but we're not dating anymore. It was nice to know you. Yeah.
00:54:25
McKinleyHow it goes. Me doing like jiu-jitsu and obviously my like going into it. I wouldn't be seeing it as like a sexual thing and like if it was a problem for him. Um, if like the relationship was only if he had to break up with me
00:54:37
Brian Atlasbecause I'm doing jiu-jitsu, then I wouldn't I don't know. That's on him. Is there anything a guy can tell you not to do that you would not do? Um, I mean like when I was involved with that
00:54:50
McKinleyone guy I was talking about, he didn't love that I like went out a lot, but I still went out. I just wouldn't go out as frequently. Like I'm I don't know. I'm still going to live my life
00:55:02
Brian Atlasregardless. It's all about a preference game. But so question though, um it seems like at least with that guy wasn't super serious. You say you never had a boyfriend. So I mean you didn't have the
00:55:14
Brian Atlastitle. When you get the title though, one of if let's say this is the perfect guy, by the way, perfect guy, but he has conditions. One of these conditions is don't want you to go out anymore. Do you accept the condition or is the
00:55:27
McKinleyrelationship over? Um it'd probably be over cuz if he didn't want me to go out, he wouldn't be the perfect guy for me. Could you compromise together? Yeah. I mean, I could totally compromise, but if you're going to It's never going to be the perfect guy if he's like, "You cannot go out." Yeah. To be clear. Yeah.
00:55:40
Brian AtlasI'll explain differently. So, when I say perfect guy, it's perfect, but this. So, it's like perfect, but he doesn't like Okay. So, what is your sense of what
00:55:50
Brian Atlasperfect means? He's like insanely attractive. He could have all the characteristics that you prefer or have a strong interest in. He could be rich.
00:56:00
Brian AtlasHe could be all the things. So perfect guy. Mhm. Like question for you. Do you think you'll end up with a perfect guy? Um I don't know. I don't think everyone's like perfect. Exactly. So I think it just perfection is extremely
00:56:12
Brian Atlasrare, right? Uh most people are going to end up like for example an average person is going to end up with an average person, right? And it might you might have good fit with each other, but there are going to be some things that
00:56:24
Brian Atlasare less than ideal, less than perfect about a person. But people make these sort of trade-offs in relationships where it's like, well, you know, they've got like a Pokemon card collection or like other, you know, this maybe they mildly annoy me in this one way, but I
00:56:36
Brian Atlasstill love them and they're great, whatever. Um, people are rarely like 100% perfect, but so just to be clear, you're not willing to sacrifice going out for the perfect guy. Well, it
00:56:47
McKinleydepends how old I am. And also it I guess Okay. Well, I don't know. It has to do with a trust thing, too, because I don't I don't drink or smoke and obviously I'm not intimate with a ton of
00:56:58
McKinleypeople and so what would realistically be the problem? Like I'm just going out having fun with my friends and I'm normally the driver a lot. So to Wait, what? What did you say? Sorry. You should be allowed to go out with your friends. I mean that's fine. As When you
00:57:10
Brian Atlassay go out with your friends though, do you mean what? Because go out with your friends could mean you guys go get brunch or you go to the club and you