FERAL GIRLS?! BEAVO's GF?! Sassy St. Lucia Strumpet FEMINIST vs. Andrew Wilson?! | Dating Talk #212
Date: 2024-11-13
Duration: 8h 05m
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Angelica(guest)
SPEAKER_03Sophia(guest)
SPEAKER_04Pal / Julia(guest)
SPEAKER_05Lucy(guest)
SPEAKER_08Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_12Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_13Vera(guest)
SPEAKER_14Irma Ruiz(guest)
Key Moments
00:02:12
IntroGuest introductions round — Brian introduces all panelists and Andrew Wilson joins remotely
“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast... please tell us your name age location and occupation”
00:14:00
Key MomentAndrew Wilson opens debate calling OnlyFans definitionally prostitution — Sophia immediately pushes back
“I'm guessing prostitution is very lucrative or women wouldn't do it right”
01:16:10
Key MomentSelf-ratings round begins — Brian asks 1-10 scale
“let's just go right to Stiffler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 starting with you”
01:24:00
QuoteBrian calls out that women make false accusations with utmost confidence about things on tape that clearly didn't happen
“this is why women are extremely dangerous because they will assert with the utmost confidence that a man did something or said something that is on tape that he clearly did not even do”
01:25:06
ControversyVera falsely accuses Brian of sliding into her DMs — Brian very upset, demands she retract
“Biden sa donated $69 Brian DM me to lay him... retract the statement scumbag”
01:49:00
Key MomentMAJOR fight: Vera calls Irma a 'pick me', Irma screams back with profanity — both very loud and personal
“you're a pick me... [Irma]: I don't give a f*** what you say... [Vera]: I could f*** your husband...”
02:39:00
Key MomentVera challenges Andrew on Christianity and OnlyFans — argues Andrew said only fans girls can't be Christians/saved
“you said they cannot be a Christian... [Andrew]: categorically no... you cannot hold to ethical paradigms which are contrary to each other”
03:07:54
ControversyAndrew Wilson states a rape victim should still carry pregnancy to term — panel erupts
“she should carry the pregnancy to term... you're not allowed to go home and kill one of your other children”
04:05:00
AgreementAngelica reveals her Instagram handle and Brian encourages men in chat to reach out — she wants only good/virgin men
“just my name Angelica Zeno z u e n k o... only good guys only virgin men please”
04:47:19
ControversyBrian kicks out two late-arriving disruptive girls (redhead/ginger and Latina) who arrived 50 minutes late
“you guys were f***ing 50 minutes late you disrupted the whole f***ing show... get the f*** out”
05:20:00
QuoteBrian plays Discord clip proving Vera's false accusation about the makeup wipe — Vera caught lying
“[plays video clip] you see Brian's Body Language in his smiling face... [Vera]: he slammed it down”
05:39:00
Key MomentAndrew Wilson departs — says goodbye and leaves for early dentist appointment
“I do have to cut out a little early have a dentist appointment in the morning... it was nice to meet all of you”
06:14:00
QuoteLucy reveals her body count is 25 — 15 guys and 10 women — has a list with first and last names on her phone
“I counted on the list and 10 of them were women so that's 15 guys 15 guys yeah 10 10 women”
06:48:27
QuoteBrian reads his ideal partner wishlist — wants 7 sons, stay-at-home wife, live in Hawaii
“want to meet a great girl date for a few years travel a bunch maybe end up living in Hawaii have her help me with my mission and then like pump out seven sons”
07:48:00
Key MomentLucy and Brian discuss racism against white people — Lucy claims you can't be racist against white people, gets pushback
“there's no actual like systemic racism against white people there never has been”
Topics Discussed
00:02:12
Guest Introductions
All guests introduce themselves: Vera (22, St. Lucia, OnlyFans), Pal (24, England, OnlyFans, Psych/Neuroscience), Lucy (21, LA/SB, waitress/architecture student), Sophia (22, England, Beavo's GF, OnlyFans), Angelica (25, Canada, ballet dancer), Irma (49, San Antonio, teacher/entertainment), Julia (24, Riverside, car dealer). Andrew Wilson joins via video call.
00:14:00
OnlyFans = Prostitution Debate
Andrew Wilson argues OnlyFans is definitionally prostitution. Sophia and Pal push back strongly. Lucy mediates. Irma adds perspective. Extended debate about definitions, stigma, and whether digital sex work differs from in-person.
00:19:30
Relationship Status Round
Brian goes around the table: Vera (single, never really had relationship, saw someone 1.5 years). Lucy (single 1 year, longest was 3yr post-HS, recent 8mo situationship with bisexual dynamics). Pal (single 2yr). Sophia (in relationship with Beavo 9mo). Angelica (single, never had boyfriend, celibate 6yr). Irma (married 11yr, 4 kids). Julia (in relationship 9mo).
00:35:00
Angelica's Story (Ballet/Celibacy/Never Had BF)
Angelica reveals she's 25, never had a boyfriend, celibate 6 years, only 2 sexual partners (3 encounters). Left home at 13 for ballet scholarship. Wants to wait until marriage. Plans to create touring circus company. Called 'wife material' by panel.
01:16:10
Self-Ratings Round (Looks 1-10)
Brian asks everyone to rate their looks 1-10 (can't pick 7). Vera: 10. Lucy/Pal: 7.5. Others various. Julia: 5. Andrew: 10 (sarcastically). Discussion about beauty standards, aging, Kim Kardashian BBL era, and whether breast surgery numbers are higher for augmentation vs reduction.
01:49:00
Vera vs Irma 'Pick Me' Blowup
Major confrontation between Vera (St. Lucia) and Irma (San Antonio) about 'pick me' accusations. Vera calls Irma a pick me for agreeing with men on panel. Irma fires back with profanity. Both very loud. Brian tries to moderate. They reveal they met the night before at the hostel and already had an altercation.
03:07:54
Abortion Debate
Andrew Wilson states a rape victim should still carry pregnancy to term (it's murder to terminate). Lucy and others push back strongly. Brian moderates. Wide-ranging debate including Plan B, contraception, men's reproductive rights. Andrew cites 100% of newborns put up for adoption get adopted.
04:00:06
Lucy's Sugar Daddy Stories
Lucy tells two stories: (1) Fake music video casting at hotel — turned out to be sex services menu/yachting pervert, asked her friend to perform act on him, wanted Lucy to film. (2) 45yo ugly 'family friend' sugar daddy at 18 who got her drunk and tried to assault her, made zero money both times.
04:47:19
Two Late Girls Removed
Two women who arrived 50 minutes late (a redhead/ginger and a Latina) cause disruption and are asked to leave by Brian. Brian says 'get the f*** out'. Vera alleges this was caused by her makeup wipe controversy.
04:48:00
Political Debate (Trump, Abortion, Economy)
After volatile guests leave, Lucy and Brian/Andrew debate Trump's economic policies, immigration, abortion rights, Kamala Harris. Lucy is anti-Trump, argues Biden/Trump economics, immigrants pay taxes, corporate tax on billionaires. Andrew provides conservative counter-arguments. Respectful but heated.
05:20:00
Vera Confronts Brian About Ep 207 Makeup Wipe
Vera accuses Brian of throwing a makeup wipe at her in episode 207 and asking her to remove her wig (alleges racial motivation). Brian denies and plays the Discord clip proving he did NOT throw it at her — she picked it up herself while smiling. Vera doubles down claiming cameras-off behavior was worse. False accusation segment; Brian very upset.
06:06:51
Body Count Discussion
Brian asks everyone their body count. Lucy reveals 25 (15 guys, 10 women, stopped counting on list). Vera says 'somewhere in the 20s'. Julia says 6 (or 5). Irma refuses ('anything over 2 is disrespectful to husband'). Pal's abusive ex story (fat guy, micro-penis ~2in, threw phone in traffic, physically abusive). Angelica: 2 men (3 encounters total).
06:08:00
OnlyFans Content Limits / Industry Discussion
Panel discusses what they won't do on OnlyFans. Vera won't do BG content because she wants to get married and doesn't want videos of her available forever. Sophia has had BG content with Beavo. Angelica discusses older chemistry teacher who subscribed to his former students' OnlyFans. Pal discusses mentally taxing nature of the job.
06:48:27
Brian's Ideal Woman Reveal
Brian reads his pre-written notes about ideal partner: wants to meet a great girl, date a few years, maybe live in Hawaii, 7 sons, stay-at-home wife. Slight preference for Asian or white women. Petite. Natural body supremacist (no plastic surgery). Introverted, modest, brings peace, doesn't drink/party/go to bars. Undivided attention from date 1.
07:29:00
Wife Material Round
Brian asks each guest 'are you wife material and why'. Vera: yes (cooking, cleaning, great in bed, fertile). Lucy: yes (big lover girl, needs right person). Angelica: definitely yes (warm, positive energy, loyal). Irma: yes, married. Julia: yes (submissive, acts like wife from day 1). Pal: yes (except for OnlyFans). Sophia: yes (except for OnlyFans — 'will quit when she reaches financial goal').
Transcript
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Brian Atlashave the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location and occupation go ahead Vera 22 sta the north none of your
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Brian Atlasbusiness whoa wait hold on I thought you is that what you said last time yeah okay uh profession only fun gr okay
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Brian Atlasyay all right The Sisterhood um and then uh any schooling any education nope okay College in St Lucia or anything like
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Lucythat nope all right what about you I'm maaja I'm 26 I'm from LA and I do only fans yay I'm friends and all right uh
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Lucywhat do you do on o what's the nature of the content um mainly solo I have old BG content but mainly solo okay all right any other kind of
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Lucysex work escorting stripping okay what about you hi um I'm Lucy I'm 21 uh I am from LA but I live in Santa Barbara and I go to the Santa Barbara City College currently right I'm
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Lucya waitress what are you studying uh architecture architecture okay do you know what kind of architecture you want to do Residential primarily maybe I'll delve into interior design later in the
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Pal / Juliafuture okay cool what about you I'm pal I'm from Southern England and I do any fans age oh 24 all right uh any
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Pal / Juliaeducation College University yeah I have two degrees okay in what I have an undergrad in Psychology and a MERS in Neuroscience okay all right cool what
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Sophiaabout you I'm back welcome back where's pivo I know you miss he down there we missed you he's been in hospital so he's going to come on again with me which I'm
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Sophiabet you're excited for I'm very excited um I'm Sophia I do only fans I'm 22 I'm from England all right any school anything
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Sophiaelse any school um yeah so I've got like a air Starin law but I don't really know what that is over here sorry a what um air Starin law I don't really know what
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Andrew Wilsonthat is it's our in law business and criminology and is it's like it's like yeah I I don't I don't understand it either I like I don't understand what
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Sophiayeah like England's a lot different to what Andrew do you have video of what yeah there's video on my end Damian do you have video no we don't we're not getting video of what are we supposed to
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Sophiasee him I think of the guy um can you broadcast video Andrew I don't see any video have you seen Andrew before of course I'm
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Andrew Wilsonready okay cool prick hi have you missed me get it here
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SophiaAndrew um I mean forgive me uh who who are you um I've heard You' broke up with your wife and started shagging loads of girls so that's not very Christian of
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Sophiayou I I I can't understand a word that you're saying I said you really like and then pretend can you stop talking over me talking
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Sophiaover me so I can speak because you said what so I'm replying to you okay do you want to listen to me or do you want to interrupt again I want to interrupt
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Sophiaagain all right go for it okay I just did all right well I thought you wanted to interrupt again so I'm waiting for whatever else you're going to say okay I'll interrupt again too go on
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Angelicathen off to a great start well I'm waiting for the interruption anyways uh what about you um my my name is Angelica I'm 25 I'm
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Angelicafrom Canada and I'm a ballet dancer and an aerialist nice education um I did a semester of University and then I dropped out all right did you go to
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Angelicaschool you're ballerina right oh well yeah so in that in terms of that kind of training I moved away from home when I was 13 and I went to a professional ballet school two of them in Canada the
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Angelicaworldy Winnipeg ballet school and school of Alberta ballet and I trained until I was 18 wait you you uh left home at 13 at 13 yeah and you ran away to go to ballet
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Angelicaschool I didn't run away but I got a scholarship to go train oh did you walk away or I flew you jogged wait so why did you leave home she because um just where my parents
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Angelicalived like we were living in Ontario and then the school was in Winnipeg and Alberta so it was just far away so I just lived with with like a random family oh yeah I mean and they were F your parents were cool with it yeah
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Irma Ruizoh okay all right what about you uh my name is Irma Ruiz I am from San Antonio Texas I am a mother I was a teacher for 15 years and now I work in the
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Irma Ruizentertainment industry all right sorry did you say age oh I'm 49 49 uh what kind of teacher were you I language arts
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Irma Ruizbut only up to 8th grade sir so don't expect anything special from me what like send out Lang language arts uh
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Irma Ruizthat's like English language arts Ed and po teaching children how to say woman I mean women instead of woman I know did any of them did it take
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Irma Ruizdid it take um my kids all say women I but I don't know what's going on with a lot of these women that keep saying
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Irma Ruizwoman in the plural sense I I don't know when did that even happen I don't know damn woman it's a whole bunch of them I don't get it I don't get it but it it's
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Irma Ruizit's really messing with my head and then did you uh your education background what do you mean oh I was a former teacher I taught 15 years in the
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Irma RuizTexas education system your education I have a bachelor's in inic disciplinary studies okay Master's pach no just Bachelor bachor just Bachelor all right
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Pal / Juliawhat about you hi my name is Julia and I'm from Riverside and I'm 24 years old and I'm a car dealer all right any schooling um
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Brian AtlasI'm going to school for taxes right now that's for taxes okay help me like accounting thanks we'll write some of that stuff off you're a car you're a car dealer like used cars or what kind of
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Pal / Juliacars do you sell um retail and well yeah use cars but retail is it like a specific dealership like Toyota dealership or what is it Lux
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Andrew WilsonAutomotive so you sell all kinds of cars not just okay I see all right uh Andrew what about you yeah my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible it's a popular
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Andrew Wilsonentertainment Channel on YouTube I'm a political analyst a political saturnist occasionally I engage in debates I have many many many uh women apparently who
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Andrew Wilsonreally just hate my gut I can't imagine why I'm such a cudly person full they seem very they seem very upset so upset they can't even let me introduce myself without cutting me off but anyway uh
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Andrew Wilsonthat's who I am and it's a pleasure to meet all of you can we ask about your education uh yeah I'm an eighth grade
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Brian Atlasdrop out nice wait actually Andrew what's that wait actually or is that like aoke it's satire that was very
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Sophiafun I know Andrew I mean sh it could be true so why do you try and educate women on what they should and shouldn't do if you're a little Dropout what what what would my Ed let's say that I only made it through fifth
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Sophiagrade what would that have to do with you being a prostitute exactly I'm not a prostitute I'm just an online [ __ ] it I what is what is what does the word [ __ ] mean I can imagine I make a
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Andrew Wilsonlot more money than you who literally interrogates only fans women for a living and that has I'm sure you do I'm guessing prostitution is very lucrative
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Andrew Wilsonor women wouldn't do it right like my assumption is that prostitution is highly I don't think you understand the definition of prostitution yeah prostitution selling yourself um you can
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Sophiaget the Google um there's nothing wrong with prostitution if it's consensual sex then it's consensual sex at least it's not
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SophiaUNC consensual sex um which many people have and a lot of girls suffer from and Men um so let's not come at only fans girl's jobs and will not come at your
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Andrew Wilsonjobs okay so anyway prostitution is a practice of engaging eight hours ago yeah so so prostitution is the
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Andrew Wilsonpractice or occupation of engaging sexual activity with someone for payment so yeah definitionally that would be prostitution you're engaged in okay if you want to call us prostitutes then that's fine but I I don't I don't want
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Sophiato I'm just trying to be precise with language I mean it's online so it's not exactly like I think it's different but do you show your bodies like to people for money I don't know you guys so I
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Irma Ruizdon't know yeah but I thought PR was when but creators for yeah cuz people say prostitutions and we're prostituting CU we're working I me because back then
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Irma Ruizprostitution was prostitution because they didn't have the internet but I think the definition has changed so half of the world the prostitutes well maybe so yeah there's a lot of women doing it
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Irma Ruizthere and you know what I'm I'm not judging yall good you know what I'm saying but I'm just saying say what you are it's okay if you're if that's what you are say it and be proud of it I wouldn't Define myself as a prostitute I don't mind doing it if
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Sophiathat's the definition fine if people want to call it prostitution that's fine but if it's online that's a thing we're not before
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Irma Ruizwhen even the word prostitution was invented there was no online the has changed like a form and that's and that's okay just be be proud of it be
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Sophiaproud of who you are you don't have to fight Andrew be like this is what I do and that's it proud of it I'm fighting Andre last episode which you were I think you are and that's okay that's fine
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Andrew Wilsonabsolutely just I just say don't well it's always this cope right so like a stripper doesn't say that she's a stripper she's a dancer right yeah but is is a stripper mean hang on hang on
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Andrew Wilsonhang on just let you talk I'm just asking a question I'm curious is a stripper a prostitute I'm trying to I can't hold on you got to you got to let him talk go ahead Andrew go ahead Andrew yeah yeah so it's it's it's pure cope
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Andrew Wilsonright so I get it people don't want to be called the thing that they are because they're ashamed of what it is that they do I think that that's normally what's going on so like we're not ashamed of it hang disagree on the
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Sophiadefinition that's fine I I swear if you let me finish you can respond just Rel okay so well you well no didn't no but he said if you want to put in and he
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Brian Atlasstill hasn't finished I thought we could add in to the conversation not saying anything okay stop stop you can't interrupt let them finish then you guys will have time to respond go ahead and interrupt I know but usually he said
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Andrew Wilsonlike stop stop stop give minute yeah know but it'll be on a different topic then okay but just stop be quiet for a minute go ahead Andrew yeah yeah so I'm just saying it's a it's pure cope right just like how strippers like to be
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Andrew Wilsoncalled dancers they're strippers and just like how uh women who have a camera in front of them and have sex for money don't want to be called prostitutes even though if there was no camera present that's exactly what they would be called
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Sophiabecause it's what it is it's the same thing same thing what you're entitled to your opinion that's fine don't care yeah
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Sophiado you think if it's a solo act and it's literally dildoing yourself then that is prostitution sure you could if a man paid you to go up to his hotel room and dildo yourself no we're not talking
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Andrew Wilsonabout that we're talking about filming it and H hang on trying to answer calm down all right if a man were to call you and pay you to go up to his hotel that's not what we do you got you got stop stop
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Andrew Wilsonstop just let them finish let them finish we can do this one of two ways the first way is we can have a productive conversation you can understand my point of view and I can understand yours the second way is you can just cut me cut in every 3 seconds
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Andrew Wilsonand will never get anywhere so it's up to you how you want to do it but we're not going to get anywhere I want to cut in every 3 seconds if it's up to me then yeah yeah that's not going to [ __ ]
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Andrew Wilsonhappen so us the option I didn't give you the option stop interrupting go ahead Andrew so anyway if a man were to pay a woman to go up to his hotel room and dildo herself that would still be
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Andrew Wilsonprostitution yes just because you do it on a camera and a man pays you through a different medium doesn't make it less prostitution that would be insane it makes no sense yeah but why not going up to thousands of guys in hotel rooms
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Sophiadildo and ourselves were literally taken a video in a safe environment and selling that on the internet for money like everyone else in the world does not everyone not everyone because not
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Sophiaeveryone does only fans but a large portion of girls do do it and at the end of the day blame the consumers rather than the people who do it because at the end of the day if there's no consumers
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Lucyno one would make money out of it may I add to this conversation really quick I think that it's a little bit unproductive to be fighting about whether or not he's insulting you and he's really just trying to define the word I think what so do you think we're prostitutes
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Lucycuz we do only fans I think that you putting a negative connotation on a word that is just being defined I not negative conation on the I think that you shouldn't care about his opinion no I don't care about his opinion but him
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Lucyhaving a platform and telling everyone else that where prostitutes by let's think about it this guy he makes a lot of his money because of because because of people like you girls who are who are he wouldn't have a job if it wasn't
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Lucyfor girl you you're on the podcast yeah only fans no I'm I'm just saying I just don't think it's productive to be fighting if there's not going to be an actual end to the I agree conversation but I mean if you want to call it whatever you want that's fine but I
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Sophiathink you're giving him Power by letting it hurt you true it doesn't hurt it's just the fact that he's a man want a podcast that think are you really laughing I'm laughing at myself all right well just like when I'm speaking
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Andrew Wilsonto you and say my opinion maybe don't laugh at it cuz I didn't laugh at yours okay wow you know she was coming she actually came in to shave she actually came in was trying how is it
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Sophiacoming I'm saying my opinion you're saying yours I'm saying my opinion you're saying yours you think every only fans girls even if they do bikini pictures are prostitutes that's that's
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Lucynot an issue you're selling your body it's a form of prostitution may I also just add that there's other girls at this table who also do only fans and they're not really getting upset at this proc to I'm a
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Sophiaprocess to my Straight 304 yeah girl straight thank you proud of it be proud of it no it's fine his opinion but at the
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Sophiaend of the day in a lot of other people's definitions online work which isn't giving sex for money isn't prostitution so I'm just putting my opinion over so I just I don't see the
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Sophiaissue with that if I have an opinion I'm going to say my opinion if he has an opinion he can say his opinion but at the end of the day none of you were here when I was having an argument with them last time which I
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Pal / Juliaconveyed before the show so yeah that's my opinion on it we
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TTS Donationsdonated $200 Ana stop talking so much my sprinkler goes like this
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Brian Atlasthank you thank you appreciate it okay um that was cool all right well let me try to get through this okay we are oh wait I'll have there's another TTS coming in and then we'll get to the relationship met
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TTS Donationsdonated $200 for [ __ ] sake shut up you can barely speak English and your only argument is your only good for a warm hold bring something else and we'll
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Veralisten so honestly she speaks perfect English that's the real English yeah know I about just because a a jority doesn't
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Sophiamake it less English what's a Jordy it's from Newcastle like the northern accent I thought Jordy the Jordy Shore yeah
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Sophiathat's North or South I'm I'm like in the Posh part of Jordy show so I'm not Posh I'm not Posh but it's out of
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Brian Atlasthat area where everyone pisses on plants and jumps in pills cool that's awesome all right uh what so going around the table we're going to get the relationship status what's your current relationship status if you're
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Brian Atlassingle how long you've been single and the longest relationship you've ever been in go ahead single never really been in a
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Brian Atlasrelationship okay uh longest period of time you've seen a man or a woman or a they uh I say about a year and a half
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Brian Atlasokay but it wasn't your boyfriend no okay uh okay what about you single how long
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LucyYou' been single for about like two years two years MH all right I'm also single and I've been single for it's actually like just hit a year I'm sorry
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Lucycoming back to you longest relationship 3 years was that the one that ended two years ago uh no the three year was like right
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Brian Atlasafter high school like right after up with who in the three-year relationship me you broke up with him mhm and then your most recent relationship the one that ended two years ago who broke up
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Lucywith who it was the mutual thing like wrong timing type of situation all right what about you uh single broke up a year ago um the longest relationship
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Lucythat I've been in it wasn't really a relationship um but it was 8 months it was one of those like situation oh yeah
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Brian Atlashorrible horrid okay yeah long long gone uh so longest what anything was 8 months did you call each other boyfriend girlfriend for like a week you broke up
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Lucyoh yeah I was in the trenches like it was horrible I have self resect now um did not at the time what do you mean you were in the trenches like um I was like just madly in love with this guy and he just was like kind of leading me on and
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Lucywe mon guy dude yeah like we would we would do very couply stuff like he'd sleep at my house all the time um like my family met his family etc etc um and then we were dating for one week and then he went so yeah you broke up with
00:21:32
Lucyhim no I wish I wish I could say that was what happened he broke up with you why did he break up with you that's a great question like I still don't really know to this day I think he was just a little bit non-committal I think there was a lot of reasons that went into it um I was like very like insecure about
00:21:45
Lucythe fact that he didn't want to be with me so I think that I kind of put pressure on it and when you put pressure on people who have an anxious or avoid an attachment style they just run away can you tilt your mic down just a teeny bit Sor from the back gra from the back
00:21:57
Brian Atlasuh more please yes is that better still good still bad hello okay sure sorry yeah so you a month or excuse me a week before you
00:22:09
Brian Atlasbroke up yeah you guys became boyfriend girlfriends and was that a push by you yes and so you got the commitment so what was going on for the
00:22:20
Lucyother essentially eight months of um were you seeking commitment previously and he wasn't giving it to you yes like it was kind of one of those weird so this was actually the first like I like I consider him to be like my like First Love or whatever so I wasn't really sure
00:22:33
Lucywhat I wanted in a relationship cuz I had never been anything super serious before then so it was um a lot of me just kind of like him kind of not wanting to commit fully and me being like Oh I'm okay with that like I want to be in an open relationship meanwhile
00:22:45
Lucylike I'm 18 like I didn't really know what that meant um so it actually it got kind of complicated like I was actually um sleeping with his ex for some part of
00:22:56
Lucythat relationship um during during when we were together because I was like his ex yes I'm bisexual bisexual no no honestly not
00:23:07
Lucysure about that one he probably is um he probably just doesn't no never mind I'm not going to go there but no yeah so um we were it was just kind of confusing about what I wanted what he wanted we couldn't really decide and so then I
00:23:20
Lucythink when we both were dating it was just like there had been such a buildup it was like a volcano waiting to erupt and then it was like the Calm before the storm and then it was just like like everything just kind of exploded all of like kind of the resentment that he had been building towards me and the
00:23:33
Lucyresentment that I had been building towards him just it kind of just fabricated into something where it was like okay this is clearly not working even though I was like madly like blind stupid in love it didn't matter because
00:23:44
LucyI was like just like like gripping onto this poor man but yeah we're so done with that now um oh yeah and then funny story the ex that I was like seeing that was his ex he started dating her a week
00:23:56
Brian Atlasafter we broke up so that that was like a yeah the X he went back to the X mhm I see okay and then uh I hope she's watching this actually was he aware we're friends now was he aware that you
00:24:08
Brian Atlaswere sleeping with the ex during the course of your guys no he was not that was a squet that's right wait do he know he does know now let's get some clarifying questions in here was it on
00:24:19
Lucyagain off again with this guy um I was like I had a crush on him in high school and he wanted nothing to do with me and then when we started dating we were pretty consistent or like dating you said you were together for eight months
00:24:31
Lucyyes that was consistent like there weren't like breaks or anything okay wait no actually now that you bring that up there was one break where he was like yeah like this has been fun but I like this other girl so I'm going to go try to date her he comes back a week and a half later with flowers and he like so
00:24:42
Lucythat didn't work out um take me back and I'm stupid so I was like yeah I'll take you back and was that prior to or after you were [ __ ] his ex-girlfriend that
00:24:53
Lucywas Prior I was like I was just so insecure dude like I do not claim and any of these actions that I took because it was just like a really dark place in my life what do you mean you don't claim them like I just probably wouldn't do that again like probably not but it's
00:25:05
Lucylike it's a good story um and I learned a lot about myself and like my the way that I want to be treated in a relationship and also the way that I want to treat myself in a relationship and like hold myself to a standard um
00:25:16
Brian Atlasbut were you um during the course of the was it for the eight months though was it exclusive or not exclusive like no only for that one week only for that one week okay so besides but I was not like it wasn't romantic with anyone else was
00:25:28
Lucywhat that was like my um when you when you say it wasn't romantic with anyone else like he was definitely sleeping with other people and were you sleeping with other people and I was sleeping with other people but we were like we were like saying I love you to each
00:25:39
Brian Atlasother and then so how many um and you're sleeping with both men and women is that correct yes uh during the course of the eight-month relationship how many other men did you uh date and or sleep with
00:25:52
Lucyyou know what it actually wasn't really men it was kind of a lot of women because that's like part of the reason a few men there was a few men for sure yeah but it wasn't ever serious um it was more like you know like that's you'd
00:26:03
Lucyhave sex yeah whatever yeah um how many men did you see did you hook up with during the course of the 8mon Lord I I I can't I I frankly I can't even believe I'm talking about this cuz I kind of blacked out that whole part of my life like I really
00:26:16
Lucydon't really remember it was definitely like a few the recesses well the thing here's the thing about me um I am a big fan of like having his history with people and I we'll bring this up later
00:26:27
Lucylike cuz I don't have to hog the mic but um so when I am like not like I have like these two people that I kind of have been going back and forth between like my whole life because I'm just not good at like meeting new people I don't find that exciting as someone who I've known for a long time so there was like
00:26:39
Lucya point where someone that I ended up dating after was someone that I was seeing while I was with him okay so recycling yeah oh yeah yeah not anymore unfortunately neither of them are an option anymore yeah how how many women
00:26:52
Lucywere you with during the8 month God plenty plenty like five five well that's not I mean I when you say plenty I think like 50 40 or 20 I mean good for you if you can do
00:27:04
Lucyall that I don't I personally don't pull that much you don't but I mean I don't I think you could oh girl I don't know extroverted you're extroverted I would like to think so yeah extroverted but
00:27:15
Brian AtlasI'm also picky I don't just like you're picky yeah okay what do you mean in terms of the women are you pickier with women or
00:27:24
Lucymen that's a tough one I kind of feel like it's really 50 50 for me cuz I am very very like split down the middle bisexual like I don't really lean one
00:27:33
Brian Atlasway or the other anybody else here bisexual yeah yeah bye bye bye that's an I cannot believe I just talked about
00:27:40
Brian Atlasthat um okay so all right and so that was your 8mon situationship yeah it was horrid uh never again and you've been
00:27:51
Brian Atlassingle for one year yes well hm how many guys are how many people are currently in the picture though zero there's zero people in the picture
00:28:02
Lucyhow long you been celibate for celibate yeah who said anything about celibacy no okay in the picture well like I don't know I if I'm like getting with you and
00:28:15
Brian Atlasif I'm involved with you physically it doesn't necessarily mean that I'm like that you're a contender for me to be dating per se no so when I say in the picture it could be casual hookup it could be sneaky link it could be one
00:28:27
Brian Atlasnight stand Friends with Benefits doesn't have to be like in the when I say in the picture it doesn't have to be like I'm pursuing this for long-term relationship yeah there's like you know like a couple people that I like talk to most of them are really just like kind
00:28:40
Lucyof like parasocial where it's like I just kind of like I'm texting them all the time like that's fine um there's actually I did sort of meet somebody the other night but I don't I can't say anything about that cuz I don't know what's going to happen yet so so when
00:28:53
Lucyyou say you met somebody the other night what was the nature of the meeting oh Lord Okay so so I was at a bar and I was supposed to meet my I was actually supposed to meet my mom there which I know is kind of weird a lot of people
00:29:04
Lucydon't go out drinking with their parents but me and my mom go crazy um and so the [ __ ] she's nowhere to be found cannot find her at this bar and so I'm like there and I look around and the only person that I can see is my ex the one I was just talking about and I'm like okay I am not here right now like I'm so not
00:29:17
Lucyhere like the only person that I know in this room is literally someone I do not want to talk to um and so I like go up to the bar and I just start talking to this guy and like he was kind of like I don't I don't know if you guys can to
00:29:28
Lucythis but I feel like people are a lot less friendly than they used to be in general like when you go out to socialize I'm I'm smiling like I'm very like you said I'm an extroverted person I'm very friendly so I'm over here like
00:29:39
Lucysmiling at everyone and I just get a lot of like we see I have a wom both but mostly me mostly women actually but then even the guys like they just kind of like they're in their own little like they're in their own world so this one
00:29:52
Lucyguy I just started talking to him and he was really nice and he bought me a drink and we hung out and we ended up hanging out all night he came with like me and my friends to go out weren't you with weren't you supposed to meet your mom dude she went home she totally ditched
00:30:03
Brian Atlasme it was horrible uh and so did you guys end up hooking
00:30:08
Brian Atlasup no comment that that is a okay uh so all right um so he's in the picture and then are there any other Are
00:30:21
Lucythere women any women in the picture no Santa Barb is a really hard place to find gay women either already slept with them or they've moved out
00:30:31
Lucyyou've already slept with them oh yeah how many women have you slept with she said five right no that was five during the course of the eight-month relation do I have to answer you have you have to
00:30:42
LucyI don't think I have to answer you have to answer I'm curious um everybody wants to I mean just take a good look at me that is not helpful at all I don't I actually don't know I used to have a
00:30:53
Lucylist but I stopped counting is it on your phone I'm not pulling it up I'm so not do I have first and last names on that thing you it's it's like a it's
00:31:02
Lucylike a Hit List other details on not this one uh I no I I do have a friend though who does like um he is like literally psychotic we can move on but it's fine it's fine guys quiet please
00:31:15
LucySor yeah I have a friend who's like literally psychotic and so he has tally marks instead of names in his phone I don't do that I have first and last names social security number I'm just kidding um but I I would say it's like for me I'm not going to tell you the
00:31:27
Brian Atlastotal number but but it's a pretty even 50/50 with men and women okay um get anything from that none your beeswax we should definitely get that list uh but perhaps perhaps we'll come back to some of this
00:31:40
Brian Atlasso okay I don't know who's watching otherwise I would totally be so besides this guy from the other night uh are there other guys in the picture there's there's someone who you know how I said that thing about history yeah you're like recycling yeah so there's this
00:31:52
Lucythere's this person I've known since middle school who we've kind of had like this like flirtation this thing for a long time and he was dating this girl for a couple years and then they broke
00:32:03
Lucyup recently oh my God I hope he's not watching this right now um and so then he's been like we've been talking like every day and he's very responsive and so that's like I don't know it's just kind of like weird like one of those things where like oh my God someone can just come back into your life and like
00:32:16
Lucyfit so well into the puzzle of everything but nothing serious with that yet nothing um like set and stone well we can uh we can explore some of this a bit more later on in the show but uh
00:32:27
Brian Atlaswhat's uh your relationship status Palm I'm single all right how long you been single for about two years two years okay longest relationship about two years about two years all right who
00:32:39
Brian Atlasbroke up with who he broke up with me all right and was this the one that ended two years ago yes okay why did he break up with you uh we were both very
00:32:48
Pal / Juliamentally ill oh uh what was the nature of your mental illness uh depression anything else anxiety any other have you been diagnosed with anything uh I was
00:33:00
Brian Atlasdiagnosed with anorexia but that was when I was 13 anything like uh BPD bipol Why Oh no just asking no I haven't been
00:33:09
Pal / Juliadiagnosed with that do you suspect you I have traits of it but not enough for a diagnosis okay and
00:33:21
Brian AtlasI sorry Andrew sorry I got to play this for myself sorry Andrew go go ahead you had the
00:33:30
Andrew Wilsonquestion no it was the same question I was just it was BPD um and then uh what about you what relationship oh yeah relationship status um in a relationship
00:33:43
Brian Atlaswith Brandon oh hold on uh with with bivo Brandon Brandon yes he doesn't go by bivo anymore Israel Nam BR okay cool how
00:33:55
Brian Atlaslong you guys been dating nine months a Little Closer nine months okay long what's your longest relationship ever yeah nine months oh this one okay yeah nine months all right and is he in California with you or yeah he's just
00:34:06
Sophiabeen in the hospital so still still yeah okay what's going on with him is he um he broke his shoulder o but he's got really bad issues with his shoulder is he here in Santa Barbara um he's in La
00:34:19
Sophiahe's still in La okay yeah all right well wishing bivo a in speedy speedy recovery he's got like a really bad shoulder so every time like he falls and stuff it like the ligaments like come
00:34:31
Sophiaout of the shoulder um from did you do like a sport or something um no it's like it just I don't really know how he not eats dinner um it's like I don't
00:34:42
Sophiareally know how exp it's just some like ligament or something that keeps like coming out of place so it needs like properly fixed but it needs properly fixed all right uh what about you relationship status I'm
00:34:55
Brian Atlassingle tilting your mic down please all right you're single single how long you been single for always oh okay um so you're and you're 25 right y okay so you've never had a boyfriend no uh
00:35:06
Angelicawhat's the long but I mean I you've dated correct um I've gotten at like dates before like oneoff dates but very
00:35:15
Angelicafew and yeah mhm what's the longest period of time you've been like seeing a guy like I think I went like kind of two
00:35:26
Angelicadates with someone and that was it yeah you went you stopped things he stopped things what happened there um either with that one yeah it just kind of fizzled out it just wasn't like a right
00:35:36
Angelicamatch so just didn't work out fiz out yeah it just wasn't the right con yeah and for me as well yeah for both I guess yeah and then uh so wait are you a
00:35:46
Angelicavirgin I'm not a virgin okay um she's like a virt are you celibate yes how long you've been celibate for
00:35:56
Brian Atlasseven years oh okay or six years six years so you uh okay props to [Music]
00:36:06
Angelicayou what so wait hold on never had a boyfriend celibate for 6 years who was the lucky guy it was just somebody when I was um like in
00:36:18
AngelicaUniversity and we were just in the same class and we're we're just friends like not really anymore but at the time we're just friends and I really wanted to like try it and so just was one of those things and so he's the only guy you've
00:36:29
Irma Ruizhooked up with he's not the only but yeah there's been two two total okay uh all right I can't believe I'm sharing this I expected to do this I have a
00:36:39
Irma Ruizquestion I have a question just so total in your life just twice or just two guys that you were with two guys multiple times okay total was three wait wait
00:36:50
Angelicathree times so one of those guys got lucky twice yeah the the one the friends that in University and why so curious with the TU uh the first one why did
00:37:01
Angelicathat end like was this the fizzle was the fizzle well like when you yeah I just kind of we were like we just want to be friends like it just I didn't feel that like connected to him romantically I
00:37:14
Angelicadon't know it just wasn't that like I did kind of have feelings at first and and I was like you know what like you're really nice we stayed friends like we really did but I just was like you're not the one for me so let's just be friends and you know and he kind of felt the same way like he had just come come
00:37:27
Angelicaout of like a long relationship and I don't think he was looking for anything like that like he just kind of was a good friend to me in that way and we stayed friends so yeah okay and then the other guy it was just like a it was like
00:37:39
Lucya it was a cooworker oh cooworker okay oop wait can I ask a question to her as well that's so interesting that you come on a dating podcast if you don't have a whole lot of experience and I'm just like curious as to what like your like
00:37:52
Angelicareasoning that you wanted to come on here would be I'm definitely somebody that likes to experience things and like go outside the box and just try things and like even if they scare me or like whatever and so I just I've seen on Tik Tok like clips of this podcast I was
00:38:04
Angelicalike well what if I just came on and like why not you know cuz life is short well it's long but this is is long this is why she's so smiley man she hasn't had her heart ripped out by a guy that's true I've never had had that experience
00:38:16
Brian Atlasever you know just save yourself it's okay that's what I'm doing I'm waiting yeah so yeah that's fair uh okay
00:38:25
Brian Atlaswell uh definitely definitely unique um um and uh I guess so you were like 19 you were in college these are pretty much when you had these experiences right yeah uh why haven't you I mean
00:38:36
Angelicayou're 25 now why haven't you really pursued dating much just nobody's caught your eye or well like I've gone on a couple online dates and stuff like um and I tried you know like you say online dates you met in person it was in person
00:38:48
Angelicabut from dating apps um and I've had people ask me like it's not that I don't have guys asking me out like I do but I just was like when I had that last experience um that last sexual
00:38:59
Angelicaexperience I was like you know what I'm glad I tried this but I really want to wait until someone I really have feelings for so I was like let me just wait and so I've just been waiting it's longer than I expected but
00:39:11
Brian Atlasthat's when you say when you say wait though what do you mean like are you waiting for the right guy or when you do meet a guy you're going to wait to have sex that's a good question I I would actually like to wait now that I've
00:39:23
Angelicawaited this long I I think I would like to wait until marriage like I feel like that's a hard sale so she's so cute though cuz uh the coworker um how long
00:39:35
Angelicadid he wait um there was just tension at work we kind of had like that kind of tension and we kind of started liking each other so it was like a like I don't know we weren't like dating or anything but we're just talking at work in between
00:39:48
Angelicashifts and stuff like didn't hang out wait did you guys was it at work that you at work it was all at work oh um the kind of flirting was at work oh
00:39:58
LucyI not that no no that was like in a regular setting she had one chance she right there but there must have there must have been like a singular a
00:40:09
Angelicasingular moment where it was he was like hey you want to grab bite to eat like there was a singular moment right yeah there was a moment like after kind of a few weeks of flirting at work um we I don't even
00:40:22
Angelicaremember it was so long ago he just was like yeah let's hang out we I think okay so he he says hey okay let's hang out outside of work yeah and then you guys went to a bar you went I'm trying to remember yeah we went out to a restaurant or not even a restaurant yeah
00:40:35
Brian AtlasI think it was a bar and then did you guys hook up that night yeah exactly okay yeah I see okay and then the first guy you were friends with in colge just friends yeah um and then was it a
00:40:47
Angelicasimilar thing where there was like one day he's like hey I kind of like you let's go well we would just be class sometimes like in University and like I just started like oh he's kind of cute like maybe like I kind of felt that
00:40:59
Angelicatension again and so I was like okay well it just kind of one time it was at a party that was my first time was at a party and I had a little bit to drink and I was like you know what I've never
00:41:08
Angelicadone this and then we just started going you know so it just happened okay so so you were you were at a party with a friend yeah you guys were you know drinking a bit Yeah and then you guys
00:41:21
Angelicapoked up yeah cuz I really wanted to do I was like you know I'm like you know getting I felt like really behind I've always felt that way in life like I'm always like a late bloomer with everything I feel like so this is this is a unique one Andrew maybe we can have
00:41:33
Brian Atlasa bit of an exchange on this but you know typic this conversation comes up frequently where you know women will have sex relatively quickly with men numerous men sometimes and then they
00:41:46
Brian Atlascome to some realization in their mid to late 20s or even early 30s oh now I want to wait until marriage now I want to wait 3 months whatever uh this is a unique one though
00:41:57
Brian Atlasin so far as she's been celibate for 6 years years yeah so I think the demands that she wants to wait until marriage
00:42:05
Brian Atlasare not are not as shocking to me as the typical chick who's [ __ ] 100 guys and then she a week ago she [ __ ] a guy on
00:42:17
Andrew Wilsonthe first like within an hour of meeting why is that though why is what why is that that um the fact that the celibacy has gone on for 6 years why does that
00:42:28
Brian Atlasweigh so heavily in her favor do you think well I think it shows a pattern of uh something I don't know precisely what but I think it shows self-control sorry
00:42:39
Andrew Wilsonto interrupt yeah well no it's fine um but it it is interesting to me because one of the things that I sometimes it weigh I well can I tell you why I think sure that it weighs so favorably for you
00:42:50
Andrew Wilsonsure even if uh even if you don't know it it's because you believe her oh could be that that is somebody you can imagine if
00:43:00
Andrew Wilsonsomebody uh you know held their value for x amount of years and stayed by that value that it's becomes very easy for you to believe that that value is true
00:43:11
Andrew Wilsonso versus if you you're going to end up with a chick who's who says okay I don't want to sleep with you immediately but the last guy I dated three weeks ago I did sleep with immediately you go what the hell am I chop liver right yeah it's
00:43:23
Brian Atlasbecause it's because the motivations now are not so clear so they don't believe them M yeah it it is an intriguing one because uh typically we don't hear a story like this uh and the body count is
00:43:35
Brian Atlasrelatively relatively low uh so it is interesting um I mean extremely low right extremely low The Virtue is there so the virtue is there
00:43:47
Andrew Wilsonthat you believe that there's virtue so you're like well it makes sense that you would wait you've waited 6 years it makes sense that You' wait from here you believe the you believe that there's virtue so believer that's the thing
00:43:59
Andrew Wilsonright it's like it's very hard to believe that somebody's virtuous they're breaking they just were breaking their virtues two weeks ago three weeks ago yeah I mean it's still a little it's still a bit of an eyebrow raise it's
00:44:11
Brian Atlaslike well you're two previous sexual partners you did like have sex with them pretty much immediately I know there was like a initial friendship or like something but
00:44:23
AngelicaI mean at least when there was a but still believable but with the cooworker like we had known each other for like a while there's nothing wrong with having sex immediately with something you don't she should have exp building the tension
00:44:35
Brian Atlaswas building the tension was building but like the the duration of time that elapsed from there was like an overt
00:44:46
Brian Atlasexpression of Interest I I assume from like you went to a party right like the guy the second guy he as he actually asked you out and
00:44:58
Brian Atlasthen that night uh you guys have sex and then the party how how old were you um at that point I was 19 yeah I was like almost 20 yeah I'm I'm going interrupt
00:45:09
Irma Ruizyou real quick Brian so you said you had sex with that cooworker twice right no uh once the the friend was twice oh okay so after you lost your virginity basically to your your friends M like
00:45:21
Angelicadid did you want to be with him or and did you feel hurt like after it happened no honestly I think cuz I waited so long I mean I don't know if that's that long 19 if that's like a b deal usually when a girl loses their virginity they're
00:45:33
Sophialike totally like stuck on that guy at least for a little while yeah I think I just where you got that from yeah seriously oh well maybe everyone just wants to experience like especially when
00:45:44
Irma Ruizthis day and age everyone's made out to have sex so young and then like even like with the first guy like you're not you don't like him a little bit like or want to be in love with him like him and you a young girl with him but it's you
00:45:57
Sophiadon't need to be in love with someone for the first time you have sex with them I feel like with this day and age especially with what how Society is you feel like the odd one out if you can you
00:46:08
Sophianot make a face no no but you're right what do you mean I'm looking at the camera I going to make face I'm saying my opinion and I'm saying and my face is my opinion too yeah I know but like
00:46:20
Sophialisten my opinion and then you can your op I'm not speaking it I made a [ __ ] face exactly you made a [ __ ] face are you CHR are you Christian so if you had sex and you married to that person you're married to that person so you've
00:46:33
Sophiaonly had sex with one actually I'm I'm actually living in sin right now so you've had I am not I'm living I'm living I'm living in I'm living in sin with my husband right now have you have you done exactly what God told you to
00:46:46
Sophiahave sex with one person who you are absolutely in love with everyone is different so don't [ __ ] make a face when I put my opinion out I you know I even forgot your opinion repeat it all right cool well maybe listen instead a
00:46:58
Verapull of faces this is called I'll make faces if I want called sassy English not sassy English I've not said nothing I'll make a face if I want to make a face all right well I'll say my opinion if I want to say my opinion I didn't tell you not to say your [ __ ] opinion all right
00:47:11
Sophiawell just [ __ ] listen to it like after list I'm trying to listen if you would [ __ ] say your opinion opinion but your TR is even making a face I'm going to make a face all right well
00:47:21
Sophia[ __ ] make a face why am going to make a face okay what you going to [ __ ] old to be on this podcast no I'm not [ __ ] 49 you're too okay anyways so
00:47:32
Irma Ruizyou're dating our life are you single are I am I thank you ma'am I I appreciate you I I am I am married 11 years and but actually living in sin with my husband what so did you here we
00:47:43
Sophiago did you lose your virginity to your husband no no so you lost your vinity to someone else but you were cross there so you're abiding by God's rules all right
00:47:55
Sophiawhat what does have to do with anything you're preaching that it's a bad thing for her to lose a virginity I did not that you were judging at the fact I was
00:48:06
Sophianot judging her you were you were did you feel that I was judging you at all yeah because you were like oh well did you not [ __ ] were you're not in love with him well no she wasn't with asking
00:48:16
Sophiaat the end of if she wants to have sex she will have you're n d I'm saying my opinion you can say your
00:48:26
Irma Ruizopinion after I finished mine the thing thing is you were saying your opinion I and you're pulling a God so let me speak you can SP you're so [ __ ] loud you're so [ __ ] loud all right Co I am loud
00:48:39
Unknownbecause you're [ __ ] it doesn't matter I can
00:48:46
Irma Ruizmake nuts dude yeah nobody here is friends I I told you that when we came here no they're not nobody here is Friends everybody's going to go against each other well I'm telling you right now I'm not judging you whatever she said not talking to you no but it seemed
00:48:58
Sophialike you were judging so I was defending her oh my God I think it's just a misunderstanding it's not a misunder at the end of the day like people can lose their
00:49:08
Brian Atlasvirginities argue but can you maybe not yell you guys can argue is downstairs remember you want to lose a virginity a certain way don't judge and don't put your opinion on someone losing The
00:49:19
Irma RuizVirginity she was just do that I it's in a muggy way You' did you feel it anyway I asked you a question that
00:49:29
Irma Ruizwas in a nasty way how did I ask you in a Nast way I did not not for her you're speaking I don't know what's wrong with
00:49:38
Irma Ruizthis lady I don't know what's wrong with her me you were a to you think that was you're
00:49:47
Sophiacrazy I like being crazy that was that sod water definitely hot but crazy too I'll say what I want to say say it and I feel like you're being Say It Don't
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SophiaSpray it first of all and am keep your voice down spitting on everybody [ __ ] you're spitting on everybody but I'm not spitting because you can't see anything on my microphone so you're right yeah no
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SophiaI didn't I didn't see it but I [ __ ] felt it but you didn't feel it yes I did it was all over my [ __ ] forehead there's big ass massive forehead in my shut the [ __ ] up okay did we get
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Veraanywhere great good job guys that was good good job guys all right um so um 11 years kind of derailed there a little bit go ahead and move that caption sassy
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VeraEnglish not sassy solu why am I sassy cuz I'm black no because you were sassy no that's just me I was confident confident doesn't the Sass I had the whole podcast against it's way too early
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Sophiain the podcast to play the race card way too early to play the race card yeah it's wait till we're like at least halfway through to play the race yeah little if people have called sassy once before for in her opinion then she can
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Verasay her opinion without everyone saying she's sassy why am I sassy tell you're sassy because she wants have I done anything sassy character you haven't seen I'm waiting my sassiness on him is
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Production Asstit a Joe pesy bit right am I some kind of clown here to amuse you am I funny I [ __ ] funny to you you [ __ ] talking to me talking to
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Irma Ruizme all right ah boy okay uh relationship status oh I said I've been married 11 years but living in sin with my husband
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Brian Atlasokay and that's your longest relationship yes any kids yes four we're blended family they're all over the age of 21 how many different fathers two um
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Irma Ruizjust one oh what oh okay four kids from some from him none from my current husband wait what he has two children that he has always had custody of
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Irma Ruizcustody of and I have my two children that I two biological children yes and we all live together as a okay College dormatory what about you um I'm
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Pal / Juliain a relationship and it's about 9 months now and yeah all right uh longest relationship um like almost four years
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Pal / Juliafour years okay my first boyfriend who who broke up with who I broke up with him why um cuz he um it was great great
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Pal / Juliarelationship but I'm like the type of person that like I don't deal with cheating and like no no kind of way and all he did was swipe up hard eyes on
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Andrew Wilsonsome coworker and I said this is good all right okay cool hang on uh going back um I'm sorry I didn't catch your
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Andrew Wilsonname um Julia and one who were speaking right before you Irma Irma okay uh you keep on saying you're currently living in sin with your husband what does that mean we're married but just not through
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Irma Ruizthe church Oh you mean through the state no yeah we're married to State we're just not married through the Catholic church I see and he's Catholic yes and you're
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Irma RuizCatholic yes I see but we both in our in both of our previous marriages we were married through the church so and the
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Irma Ruizeyes of God were still so you were both Catholic though before yeah we've always been Catholic as kids yeah but I mean the Catholic Church recognizes that I don't know from what I've what I've
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Irma Ruizstudied and stuff we actually have to go get an enement through the church in order for my husband and I to get married which're we're working on it okay wait a second let me back up let me
00:53:36
Andrew Wilsonmake sure I got this right the previous marriages you had are not an olded you just got divorces through the state is that cor say correct so exactly I see okay so so he was married to somebody else through the church I was married to
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Irma Ruizsomebody else through the church which my marriage actually I was married only 6 months and then there's a whole story behind that and and so I felt like I was kind of tricked into that and then um I
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Andrew Wilsonmet my current husband and now we're we're just married to the state but just not to the church I see okay so but your previous relationships the state did divorce both of you yes from your previous
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Andrew Wilsonrelationships but the Catholic Church did not legally I'm divorced from my ex from my ex but the church I got it but the Catholic Church did not give an enement to either ofct mhm correct I'm
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Andrew Wilsonsorry what the Catholic Church did not give you an enement to either of you for your previous marriage correct okay now I understand all right yeah that's uh that's that's a hard case yeah I know it
00:54:35
Brian Atlasis all right we have a couple chats here we're going to let come through who cares says it doesn't matter how much money you make money can always be made dignity face and Legacy is what
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Brian Atlasyou sacrifice for doing adult content the internet is forever and your kids will see I don't even like kids I don't want kids if you want to give yourself a good life
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Sophiaand you want to give your family a good life and that is a way that you can provide for your family then you do you and you shouldn't have everyone judging you just for providing for your
00:55:11
Sophiafamily at the end of the day what other work can get that much money a month do you know what I mean says we it's always the one it's always the ones
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Sophiawho are skinned and rely on a man for a living that judge it's as simple as that that like every single person who's ever
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Sophiajudged sex work and only fans and so on has relied on a man to live simple as
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Sophiathat I mean everybody relies on men to live well in a way in a way of being with that one man cooking cleaning staying in the home being a housewife
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Pal / Juliaand then that man can leave you suddenly and you have [ __ ] nothing yeah but don't I mean you still rely on men to live in one way or another women to live in one way or another then what do you mean are you saying like men
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Brian Atlasprovide I think he's saying like I me like just like the your customers are predominantly men I have men and women actually but sure I believe that yeah uh okay well um now real quick uh I just
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Irma Ruizwant to let you know have a friend of mine he's a priest who said actually what you're currently in would be grounds for annulment now right after so long yeah my my husband and I actually were looking at we looked it up we got