2 OBNOXIOUS Rude Girls KICKED OUT! 1 RAGE QUIT?! The MOST Beautiful Panel EVER??? | Dating Talk #226

Date: 2025-02-05
Duration: 7h 15m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Rebel (Forever the Rebel)(guest)
SPEAKER_03Aana(guest)
SPEAKER_05Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_07Jake(guest)
SPEAKER_08Natalie(guest)
SPEAKER_09Roxanna(guest)
SPEAKER_10Elena(guest)
SPEAKER_11Ava(guest)
SPEAKER_12Yamile (Yams) Fuentes(guest)
SPEAKER_13Cali(guest)

Key Moments

00:40:30
ControversyNatalie refuses to take shoes off without explanation. Brian argues this shows lack of submission. Debate about whether asking "why" reflects deeper character.

"Why do I have to take my shoes off?" — Natalie questions studio rule, sparking submission debate

01:57:00
QuoteElena (Ukrainian) complains about Aana's behavior, says she flagged it much earlier.

Elena to Brian after Aana episode: "I asked long time ago to control the situation but you didn't"

01:58:27
QuoteElena says men in America are afraid to pursue women because of feminism/false accusation fears. Contrasts with Ukraine where men actively pursue.

"In my country if a man likes a woman he will do a lot of stuff to get her. Here man is afraid to do anything."

02:46:00
ControversyBrian calls out Elena for being in Miami clubs while Ukrainian men die in war. Elena defends herself. Moment of tension.

Brian points at Elena: "She's in the club in Miami while her countrymen are being slaughtered"

03:59:48
QuoteJust before being kicked out, Aana says "you're a f***ing weird Brian, considering that you asked somebody on a date, weirdo"

"You're a f***ing weird Brian, considering that you asked somebody on a date, weirdo"

04:00:00
OtherAfter repeated interruptions, screaming, name-calling (N-word), and refusal to tone down, Brian kicks Aana out. She refuses to leave, finally exits calling Brian "weirdo" and claiming he asked her on a date. WALKOFF/KICKOUT.

"Kindly get up and leave" — Aana kicked out after multiple warnings; left saying "I did nothing wrong"

04:37:00
ControversyRatings round — Brian and Jake rate themselves low (5-6), panel gives themselves 9-10. Viewer chat rates nobody above a 5. Brian disputes their self-ratings.

Ratings round: panel rates themselves 9-10; Brian says none above a 5; "most delusional panel ever"

04:49:48
QuoteBrian declares this the most beautiful panel the show has ever had after ratings round.

"I just want to say this is by their own rating the most beautiful panel we have ever had"

05:52:00
OtherBrian announces show is going to one show per week starting March, citing 12 flakes on this episode and back pain.

Big announcement: show going down to one episode per week (Sundays) starting March 2025

10:12:00
OtherElena tells story of billionaire date who screamed "shut up" during car rally then gave her 5 minutes in the pantry for dinner.

Elena's billionaire date story — "shut up!" then 5 minutes to grab food from pantry

10:18:00
ControversyYamile refuses to answer questions repeatedly, says "no comment" citing her contract. Brian accuses her of malicious compliance and breach of contract. Leads to her removal.

Yamile: "no comment / it's my freedom of speech" — Brian: "you're in breach of contract"

10:23:00
OtherYamile (Yams) asked to leave for repeatedly refusing to answer questions, citing "no comment" and contract. Exits calmly after Brian invokes breach of contract. KICKOUT/TROLL.

Yamile asked to leave for bad-faith trolling — "no comment" to every question

Topics Discussed

00:00:11
Guest Introductions

Brian introduces show and all guests go around the table: Rebel, Roxanna, Elena, Aana, Natalie, Cali, Ava, Yamile, and Jake. Each shares name, age, location, occupation, education, and sings a bit. Multiple guests are musicians/singers.

00:18:01
Relationship Status Round

Each guest shares how long they have been single and their longest relationship. Rebel (bisexual, 1yr single), Roxanna (20yr marriage, now new love of her life), Elena (3yrs single, 100+ dates in America with almost no callbacks), Aana (6mo relationship), Natalie (single since 2019), Cali (6mo single after 2.5yr relationship), Ava (4 weeks single, two 3yr relationships).

00:40:30
Shoes Rule / Submission Debate

Brian asks Natalie to remove shoes; she questions why. Evolves into a long debate about whether asking why = lack of submission, whether submission is conditional or unconditional, and whether a woman's behavior in small situations reflects her relationship behavior.

01:16:00
Job Interview Hypothetical

Jake poses hypothetical: if the man of your dreams was interviewing you, how would you sell yourself? Panel largely answers with "just be myself" — Jake and Brian point out none of them articulated what they would bring to his life.

01:52:00
Men vs Women Oppression Debate

Extended debate about whether men or women are more oppressed. Topics include the draft, Ukraine war, domestic violence laws, legal system bias, Vietnam War, selective service. Elena (Ukrainian) called out for being in Miami clubs while Ukrainian men die in war.

02:18:00
Mansplaining / Racial Oppression Discussion

Discussion about mansplaining as sexist term, Black splaining analogy, power+prejudice definition of racism and sexism. Debate about South Africa and Arab slave trade. Historical slavery discussions.

04:00:00
Aana Kicked Out — Confrontation

After repeated interruptions and screaming, Brian asks Aana to leave. She refuses initially, calls him names, accuses him of racism. Finally leaves while Rebel and Yamile debate whether to stay. Things calm significantly after she exits.

04:37:00
Ratings Round — Panel Rates Themselves

Gorlock the Destroyer asks panel to rate their looks 1–10 (no 7). Most give 9–10. Brian declares this the most beautiful panel ever. Brian gave himself a 6 (adjustable), Jake a 5. Panel rated Brian 7 and Jake 8–9. Elena said she'd be doing them a favor.

04:50:40
Aging and Attractiveness

Brian asks each woman if she will be better looking in 10/20/30 years. Most claim yes indefinitely; Brian is frustrated by lack of honesty. Yamile claims she will look the same at 74 as at 24. Brian offers $5K + free plastic surgery to anyone willing to get age-advancing procedure.

05:28:00
Billionaire Bet

Brian bets any panelist $100,000 if she marries a billionaire within 5 years, she must pay him $10,000 if she does not. Elena verbally accepts the wager. Brian declares them the most delusional panel ever.

05:51:40
Announcement: Going to One Show Per Week

Brian announces the show will go from 2x/week to 1x/week (Sundays only) starting in March due to booking stress (12 flakes for this episode), back pain, and burnout. Plans to return to 2x when things stabilize.

06:52:00
Body Count Discussion

Panel discusses whether body count matters, whether men are insecure to care about it. Goes around the table for everyone's body count. Rebel discloses ~7 (3 guys + ~4 girls). Roxanna says under 10. Others decline to specify.

07:04:00
Man vs Bear in the Forest

Classic dating discourse question: would you rather meet a man or bear in the forest? Most pick man; one picks bear. Discussion about safety and trust.

08:22:00
Should Men Pay on First Dates

Questionnaire item: women should pay 50/50 on first dates. Rebel, Roxanna, and Elena disagree — believe man should pay. Others are okay with 50/50.

08:32:00
Transgender Women Discussion

Debate on whether trans women are women, whether dating a trans woman is straight, autogynephilia, and whether trans athletes in women's sports is fair. Rebel takes tolerant view; Cali (Yamile present) says born male or female is fixed.

10:12:00
Elena's Worst Date Story

Elena shares funny story of a billionaire date who screamed "shut up" at her while watching a car rally, then made her rummage through his pantry for dinner within 5 minutes.

10:23:00
Yamile Kicked Out — Trolling

After Yamile repeatedly says "no comment" to questionnaire items and refuses to engage in good faith, Brian invokes breach of contract and asks her to leave. She exits calmly. Brian deems her a troll/plant.

10:41:00
Feminism Debate

Brian delivers extended monologue about feminism being the source of division between men and women, citing its presence in education/media/government. Rebel defends feminism as pro-women not anti-men. Jake cites feminist academic quotes about destroying the nuclear family.

11:48:00
AI Age Advancement / Gender Swap Fun

Discord creates AI age-advanced photos of all guests. Brian also shows gender-swapped versions of each guest and themselves. Light-hearted segment near end of show.

Transcript

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05:40:48
JakeAfricans would would sell them into the slave trade so they would have a slave market the Europeans would come over and they would buy slaves from the Africans MH that's how that's how it would work so do you think that it kind of dilutes
05:41:00
Jakethe race argument a little bit that it's like just white people being oppressive if it was actually black people selling other black people it does why would you come and before you guys made the argument when we were
05:41:11
Jaketalking about men and War you guys made the argument that but it's but it's other men who are creating these wars so if it's other black people who are selling other black people into slavery
05:41:22
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)wouldn't that be the same logic that's not necessarily the same logic I feel like black people were also stolen and taken like you said lied lied
05:41:32
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)to I feel like we were they were and then some people were taken with guns back then Africans we had Spears and [ __ ] you know what I'm saying they they wear cases of white people coming in
05:41:43
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)with this heavy heavy artillery and taking our people so it's just like and then like who kept us you know what I'm saying like if I sell a puppy to you and you beat that puppy who oppressed that puppy was it me selling it to you I
05:41:57
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)didn't know you was going to do all that to them so you think people captured all the slaves and then put them into a slave market is like selling a puppy I'm just saying like if I sold you know what saying if I sold a puppy to you and you
05:42:08
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)decided to abuse it I didn't impress that puppy you impressed the puppy but you know what I'm saying I could say I was wrong for selling it to you but I can't say that I oppress that puppy cuz you decid but do you think it's okay to
05:42:20
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)sell other human beings no no I don't think it's okay to ABY human beings either or go ask for some that's weird yeah but you know what I'm saying nobody I'm not saying that black people are
05:42:31
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)right in in all type of ways but I don't think that we're the oppressors because we sold people we could sell you know what I'm saying do you think do you think um do you look at Arab people in
05:42:42
Jakethe same light that you look at white people Arab people like black people do I look at black people in the same light as do you look at Arab people in the same light Arab cuz you look at you look
05:42:52
Jakeat white people as as oppressive do you look at Arabs the same way that you look at white people no no what do you mean like AR like as far as like equality or like do
05:43:05
JakeI see them as oppressors Arabs yeah yeah Arabs I see as oppressors no I don't what if I was to tell you that the Arab slave trade throughout the Middle East was by far and away bigger than the uh
05:43:17
Caliwhite slave trade and also that's still happening today to a community you can't say it was like far bigger because regardless programming our people still went through that so you can't compare it to something that we know nothing about we know about what happened to our
05:43:30
Jakepeople that's all we give a [ __ ] about but who are your people black people so black people were enslaved at a much larger rate by Arab people and it's still happening like you've got um a lot
05:43:41
Jakeof slavery still happening in Africa today you've got if you and you know all these little Tesla batteries and all the electric cars you guys are driving most definitely I mean so are you guys though you have to be Cable in that if you if
05:43:54
Jakeyou want to talk about people buying buying cars they're black people who own Teslas too okay I didn't say that there aren't yeah so I never said there aren't so you saying so then you're saying that you're culpable in slavery no I don't
05:44:06
Jakehave an El car okay but like black people are there are black people who have electric cars so do I I'm I'm the voice for all black people no I'm saying but you guys are all wrong but you but you said before that that that uh
05:44:18
Jakeslavery is them you know building batteries and making electric cars if there are black people who have batteries and electric cars then they would be oppressors right they're absolutely helping in the problem okay
05:44:29
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)so you abely a part of the problem you disag I'm confused so you're saying because slavery was us making batteries and stuff no at this moment to make all these batteries for these electric cars
05:44:41
Calithat's they're getting that all of that material from Africa our people are kids no they're in fields picking this [ __ ] out right dying they're in mines they're in Cobalt mines and places like this oh
05:44:53
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)we're definitely complicit in our own oppression I feel like women are too in some type of ways I feel like we allow a lot of things and like you said equality like we have to own up to if we want equality on certain things and we have
05:45:06
Jaketo step up other ways I feel like that's the same thing with black people I feel like we don't hold each other accountable as much but that goes for every oppressed group I just think that in terms of the Arab and white argument there's a specific narrative that's
05:45:17
Jakepainted that white people are somehow like specially bad in this in this regard whereas actually the white Christian world is are the people who um abolish slavery the only ones that
05:45:30
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)abolish slavery well you know with the textbooks changing so much how can we even keep up literally well I mean history is Rewritten every few years we abolished slavery but did we really did we really
05:45:42
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)I mean that's a you can we can get into that point like do we still have slavery today and I think there is then we and slave masters they the rounded up the slaves then we Chang them to police officers now we got State Patrol now
05:45:54
Jakewe're locking up and you know black people are locked up at a higher rate and we're putting them and I think that's the only good argument that there actually is here especially in terms of modern slavery that that by by the definition of slavery which is basically
05:46:07
Jakejust taking somebody and making them do forced labor against their consent against their will the amount of people that are incarcerated today it technically falls under the definition of slavery except except for the fact
05:46:19
Jakethat they committed crimes so that's another interesting conversation to have but historically there there is if you wanted to look at it from Damage Done the Arab slave trade was far far far
05:46:30
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)worse for black people than the wh no this is just a historical fact and then we got a difference between Africans and black people do you disagree that there's still African people enslaved in the Middle East today I don't know you
05:46:43
Brian Atlasdon't know you you want a final thought though no that was a good enough good enough conversation sure all right we have a super chat here from John hey John thank you good to see you back in the chat Rebel had to be the one to read my
05:46:55
Brian Atlascomment hilarious thank you while there was no disrespect or insult yet she read it with disrespect and disdain not even hating me but hating Jesus Christ and the
05:47:05
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)truth excuse me consider or be without excuse JC is Lord um you did have a little disrespectful comment first of all you're saying we believe in a lie so
05:47:17
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)you're kind of like trying to say we're stupid and then two you're saying that women will never be equal to men I find that to be offensive so that's why I read it like that like you literally
05:47:27
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)said that you find it to be false though like wouldn't we say equal or we talking about physically equal no I can't beat you with no arm wrestle right now but that ow me that I mean but do you think that what what you're what
05:47:39
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)you're actually alluding to there what you're alluding to there is the fact that I mean I work out but like you're double bu show us a double bu you know what I'm saying but like let's be real what do we mean by equality well what you're alluding to there that you
05:47:51
Jakecouldn't beat us in an arm wrestle is that men uh have basically a monopoly on Force which means that women can never actually enforce their own rights so when you talk about equal it's actually
05:48:01
Jakeegalitarianism is impossible because women could never actually have a not on false men will always have that I feel like we could get some um weapons out
05:48:11
Brian Atlasand to get it done but no but I it's more of us than it is y'all if we think it's more women than it is men I mean guns are Force equalizers to some degree but there are differences when it comes
05:48:23
Brian Atlasto like you know the type of guns that you can field like you know carrying it for long distances and then in the event of like some hand-to-hand combat situ you can argue black people are stronger than white people but white people still scooped us up so I I mean men are
05:48:36
Jakestronger than women but I feel like women if we all came together cuz I also talk is having guns um and if you have guns we also have guns and we're stronger and can handle the guns better
05:48:48
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)so it there there's still a massive disadvantage for you guys yeah I guess but like equality are we we just saying in society or we we talking physically so you're saying because we're not physically stronger than you I won't never be equal to you yeah I think you
05:49:00
Jakecan be equal in value as a human being oh that's what I'm talking about I think that every every human being is is of equal value intrinsically we all have a soul but um in terms of of force and in
05:49:11
Brian Atlasterms of being able to you know actually exercise Force women W just cannot ever be equal it's impossible we have a super chat here from Jason Cassell he says Rebel just admit you are a POS oh damn
05:49:24
Brian Atlasokay Europeans didn't invade Africa and take slaves the slaves were slaves to other black people that were sold to slave Merchants I'm unfamiliar with that
05:49:34
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)because well cuz I don't think that we be racist to white people like you're a piece of [ __ ] cuz you're racist like we could go back and forth about this all day okay the slaves the
05:49:45
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)slaves were slave to other black people to so okay like two rounds to make it right just cuz like I have a puppy if I have my puppy and then I give it to you and you [ __ ] that puppy up that don't
05:49:58
Brian Atlasmean nothing we do have another one from Jason he has a follow-up the first recorded slave owner in the colonies was a black man you are not oppressed you are not being attacked stop acting like a victim read a book do you want to respond to
05:50:12
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)that we're not see he saying black people not oppressed like I could really just a moment of silence for all our fallen brothers and sisters that got killed
05:50:22
Jakewith the hand of police brutality and just like daytoday racism you know what I'm saying like we my my me for all of my white brothers and sisters that got
05:50:32
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)killed at the hands of black people in Street violence no bro that's not uh before to C lie Jason I'm start acting like her in
05:50:42
Brian Atlasa minute cuz she Jason like oh K hey you guys want to hear jokes to light in the mood a little bit so I I don't know if it's going to help at all I'm technically
05:50:53
Brian Atlastechnically technically africanamerican okay hold wait wait wait just hold it just hear me out hold on Callie show give me give me a little show some Pro give me a minute
05:51:04
Brian Atlaswant I was going to say without no it's average just kid okay so then I don't believe it it doesn't work out yeah
05:51:11
Brian Atlasshoot um but um okay my dad was born in North Africa okay and my mom was born in America so hold on is he black just give
05:51:23
Brian Atlasme a sec give me a sec so because my dad was born in Africa and because my mom was born in America on the technicality I know I'm not I'm not black I'm P I'm
05:51:34
Brian Atlastoo pale to be black but Tech technically I'm africanamerican because my look my dad was born in Africa B good I'm not like
05:51:45
Brian Atlasblack African-American I'm technically africanamerican no you disagree no oh you're you're on part you're on the boat on the boat I did not mean I mean like
05:51:58
Brian Atlasyou know what I mean I meant like you're on the you're on the on the same page I don't think you're African what you're trying to tell us no I'm just
05:52:08
Brian Atlastrying to say no I'm still white my dad was born in Africa my mom was born in America technically still white no I'm 100% yeah
05:52:20
Brian Atlas100% but there there's South Africans that are white white Africans it's white Africans which country that's the only reason I give to you okay all right oh oh look it's uh okay Jason has another
05:52:32
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)oh my God Jason in the chat hey dummy check the stats stats up let's see who's more oppressed we can pull the stats up between you want to pull the stats up on Black who's more um
05:52:44
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)incarcerated like we can go into red lining we can go into all type of like are y'all serious in it's Black History Month are yall serious y'all trying to like argue who's most that's my favorite is that February February it's Black
05:52:56
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)History Month it was it's MLK day is it coming up or it just passed when is when is when is um W History Month man 11 months out of the Year Fourth of July
05:53:07
Brian Atlaswe need white African-American monthy okay I look I'm just saying I don't feel like us white African-Americans get enough representation you're absolutely right
05:53:20
Brian Atlasyou know and with that being said can we talk about reparations too okay no no no no it's not about race is anybody here
05:53:30
Brian Atlasleft-handed I you're Lefty see I could do both oh ID am get out am dextrous that's
05:53:38
Brian Atlasprivilege as a left-handed person I have suffered I I've been disadvantaged in life
05:53:47
Brian Atlasscissors doors desks getting all that smudge when I'm like cuz you know if I'm if I'm writing like you go across the whatever you wrote Oh I go home I go
05:54:00
Brian Atlashome I have to use extra soap I had to use extra soap to get that [ __ ] off after class every day okay every day and you know what it's probably all that
05:54:09
Brian Atlasplastic in there you're right you know what just that part of me I was you know okay just that just this part just that
05:54:19
Brian Atlaspart right there um and uh I do think also people who have poor vision should also get reparations because we like every year
05:54:29
Brian Atlaswe got to spend like an extra 100 200 bucks on like contacts and glasses trying to get his reparations that's right that's right okay good talk uh we
05:54:40
Brian Atlashave Jason Cassell about 13% of the population more than 50% of crime that's why more blacks are incarcerated uh oh Jason pump the brakes there you're going
05:54:50
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)to get you're or maybe black or maybe police just hang out in in in more black places maybe because in the suburbs it's not that many police officers there when
05:55:02
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)it is and I feel like if it's a black person and a white person driving on the road there's is going to be more likely the black person is going to get pulled over just final thought on that though right oh God there is a discrepancy here
05:55:13
Brian Atlasyou know so you know how like we were talking about like sexism like do you think the higher incidence rate at least like you're saying that there's a higher incidence rate of like police killings
05:55:25
Brian Atlaspolice brutality police misconduct when it comes to like uh to black people is that that's like your position yes and this is like evidence of uh it's evidence racism yeah
05:55:37
Brian Atlasnow there's a really interesting other discrepancy we can look at so if you look at the discrepancy that exists between white people and black people right there's I think it's a five time larger discrepancy in policing if you
05:55:49
Brian Atlaslook at between men and women so police murders police uh police murders police brutality police misconduct the rate between men and women is five times
05:56:00
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)greater between the rate uh between black and white would you think this is like evidence of sexism no I mean because he said that 50% of crime is committed by black people so I
05:56:12
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)guess you could say more crime is committed by men and and that's why they get pulled over if I can argue make that same argument okay Jason Castell he says yeah that's where the crime is dummy okay Jason Castell Deep Pockets and also
05:56:24
Jakeif you look at the unal living rates of the of who unives who more black people are much more likely to unive white people yeah and white people are more likely to walk into a school with guns like it's like
05:56:36
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)but are we going to deny like I just even think about right like Rodney King the man was unarmed they beat him mercilessly and they still got away with it on camera I haven't seen too many
05:56:47
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)inst I haven't seen too many instances is maybe they just don't post them of white people being unarmed or not doing anything wrong and getting treating terribly by police like I don't maybe
05:56:59
Brian Atlasthey just don't post it I for the sake of time I do have to move things on I do have to move things on yeah but uh men are the primary victims of war Roxanna you disagree with that statement why is
05:57:10
Roxannathat because there are children who are being bombed and uh women as well so it's actually everybody suffers during war yeah I agree with you everybody
05:57:22
Brian Atlassuffers but I mean if we're looking at like primary victim right so for example would you agree with me that like if a woman is um I mean this is the only I guess the only example I'll bring you here if a
05:57:34
Brian Atlaswoman gets essayed like her immediate family and maybe her boyfriend or wife like that would be traumatic for them too right but I think we would all agree that the woman is the primary victim in that case even if it's traumatic for her
05:57:46
Brian Atlasfamily to like know that someone they love about uh went like had that happen to them of course so you wouldn't say that they're also the primary victim right they could be victims in terms of
05:57:57
Brian Atlaslike wow that's really traumatic and you love this person and that's hurtful but we would always say that the woman is the primary victim correct yes okay but so do you want to do you still think that because like in
05:58:09
Brian Atlaswar yes some women there's bombings and sometimes it hits civilians but when it comes to the military force predominated by men combat roles even more predominated by by men and then those
05:58:19
Roxannaare the people who are going to die yeah I agree with that however um there are different levels to that like
05:58:27
Roxannafor instance there's uh a person uh a man soldier who is on the floor on on combat like mhm hand-to-hand combat
05:58:37
Roxannaright mhm of course they're they're the um they're the victim you know they're going to be um right upfront with violence and all that but however what
05:58:47
Roxannaabout like somebody flying a plane and just pressing a button who's who's suffering at who's going to be suffering from that attack you mean it's going to be so like a
05:59:01
Brian Atlasthousand well I mean typically I think there's certain uh Rules of Engagement uh laws as it pertains to war are there civilian casualties are mistakes made or sometimes even it's intentionally done
05:59:15
Brian Atlasand that's like against I think the Geneva Convention but like sometimes you know a bomb misses mortar misses whatever um but most of the targets that are going to you know from from bombs dropped from airplanes are going to be
05:59:26
Brian Atlasmilitary targets and those targets are going to be predominantly meant so yeah some women die some women civilians die some children civilians die even some male civilians die because CU Not all men end up going to war but I think you
05:59:39
Brian Atlaswould still like let's say there's when it comes to bombings right let's say when it comes to bombings 95% of them are all military targets and this this is like almost 100% men and then the 5%
05:59:50
Brian Atlasof like military bombings that end up hitting a building either incorrectly or it's just like you know they're intentionally actually going after the civilians I think you would still have to come to the conclusion that if 95% of
06:00:02
Brian Atlasthose uh casualties from bombing are men I think you that's still the primary victim of War just because the such a discrepancy in terms of the total numbers of casualties sure when you put
06:00:13
Roxannait that way yes I agree um but there is always um I think there's always a chance that you know other you know children women
06:00:25
Brian Atlasmen civilians are going to also get hurt yeah I agree but like how about this what about this example so like let's say there's a war where 10 million men die in the military and then you have a million
06:00:36
Brian Atlaswomen who are civilians who die and then you have a million children who would be both like 5050 boy girl something like that uh then you have a million children who die and then you have like uh
06:00:47
Brian Atlas350,000 male civilians who die um if you have to total up the entire amount like who do you think is the primary victim of war in the scenario I just gave of course the soldiers the men okay yeah
06:00:59
Brian Atlasokay all right um I don't really have anything else on that we have uh let's see re uh um let me just see if there's anything for
06:01:09
Brian Atlas15 or no oh okay so let's go to 12 women are not oppressed in the United States Rebel you disagree wait I not oppressed uh so the statement is women
06:01:21
Brian Atlasare not oppressed in the USA you disagree with the statement so you think women are oppressed in the United States you also Circle that too so your position is women are oppressed in the
06:01:31
Brian AtlasUnited States is that correct can you define oppressed uh like yeah like harsh unjust or unfair treatment typically at the hands of like
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Rebel (Forever the Rebel)the state or the government yes okay and then you said yes um I don't know if it's the state of the government but I definitely feel like it's social I feel like the way I
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Rebel (Forever the Rebel)think it's just too many uh double standards when it comes to women like I just feel like like the fact that when we have a higher body count we're consider hoes and all this stuff and
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Rebel (Forever the Rebel)then I think be a yeah I think it's just more of a you know what I'm saying I think it's just like the fact like when a man smashes he got some but when a
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Rebel (Forever the Rebel)woman sashes she gave it up I disagree you know what I'm saying it's the it's the little the Nuance is there like it's just uh it makes me sick to my stomach
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Brian Atlaslike it it's just like too many double standage that's the only reason like I I I don't know I feel like with sex like I only get to come once but like some of these chicks be coming like 20 times I think that's
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Rebel (Forever the Rebel)unfair most of them don't come at all I mean some of these girls I'm telling you right right you know I know you you've been with have you ever been with like a woman who just like it's it's crazy son
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Brian Atlasyou know what I'm talking about like she's coming like 20 times and [ __ ] [ __ ] legs twitching like crazy son 30 I just squirting yeah I'm getting tisy now yeah you know she you're right
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Brian Atlasokay but um I guess I was more so looking at like I know there's social factors that can feel unfair but more so like when it comes to oppression I'm thinking of like systemic dis something
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Rebel (Forever the Rebel)like I will say yes just because Trump you got that hat over there Trump is making it so maybe if Camala was President it wouldn't be so and we would
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Rebel (Forever the Rebel)be moving towards a progressive but with this whole oh we're going to choose what you do with your body that simple the abortion laws period just shows that we're oppressed like men you think Trump
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Rebel (Forever the Rebel)is um he's super right-wing when it comes to abortion hell yeah do you know what his policy is then he's like is it oh leave it up to the state that was his policy right yeah yeah I know but it's
06:03:47
Jakejust really his conservative cabinet conservative cabinet is saying that we shouldn't allow women to make their own choice he said he does have he does have conservatives in the cabinet who who are pro-life but actually Trump's position
06:03:59
Jakeis as Centrist as it gets because you guys are a constitutional republic which means you generally are meant to leave the power up to the states you've done so less and less as your country's evolved but you're meant to leave the power up to the states right so what
06:04:12
JakeTrump's done there you're not from here crazy is this a debate or I talk about politics and um I talk about culture Jake is it a debate or a podcast okay I'm sorry um it's uh it's a podcast where we talk about different controversial issues and sometimes it
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Rebel (Forever the Rebel)goes into a debate why do you ask genuine question yeah y okay but you've been a really good sport all night I will say I I forgot you're not even from here I talk about politics I was like
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Rebel (Forever the Rebel)wait but n it's just like with your answer is like abortion that's that's just okay I'm not saying abortion is right or wrong but it's just the the choice that our government even has or men have something to say about it is
06:04:49
Brian Atlasoppression you said uh women are oppressed in the United States uh why is that they just
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Brian Atlasare yeah sure uh why no comment
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Brian Atlasum
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Brian Atlaswhy I said no comment um why don't you want to
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Brian Atlascomment because it's my freedom of speech America um yeah it's I mean it's not even a free speech issue um it's
06:05:35
Brian Atlasjust like it's the fifth amendment if you want to comment you can go ahead huh if I want to comment yeah I'm asking you to comment my contract did not say answer
06:05:50
Brian Atlasquestions um well actually your contract States if you're disruptive or sabotaging the show in some way then you have some liability towards us so by
06:06:02
Brian Atlasagreeing to come on a show where there's an expectation I don't expect everybody to answer every single question but I think it's fair to say that the majority of the questions posed to you you've
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Brian Atlasjust refused to comment so uh that's not a disruption yes it is a disruption to the podcast I'm glad you voice your opinion can I
06:06:25
Jakeask why you came on the podcast today yeah he asked me to be on the podcast but like personally from your own sort of standpoint what was your actual objective of coming on of coming on do you have an objective or sorry I'm here for a good time you asked me to be on a
06:06:38
Brian Atlaspodcast I didn't ask you to be on anything but I thought it was going to be a funny podcast I mean it's okay she thought it was going to be funny I mean we reached out to you initially actually I think or maybe you reached out to us I don't remember the det you reached out to me yeah but then we didn't hear from
06:06:51
Brian Atlasyou for months and then you out of the blue was like oh I'll come on the show so I mean regardless of who reached out to who it's kind of irrelevant you have to come on and act in good faith now I
06:07:03
Brian Atlasknow that you've intentionally been bad faith by you admitting oh it's not in the contract therefore I can do like malici malicious compliance I don't know if you know what malicious compliance is I'm actively complying and you're
06:07:16
Jakeliterally not engaging in the conversation literally You' acted like you're being in like a murder interrogation and you've you've committed the murder your your perspection of me perspection is not
06:07:28
Brian Atlasyour perception of me has nothing work to yeah yeah that's cool so um why did you site to the contract you signed you do realize like even if something isn't in a contract and maybe a lawy if
06:07:41
Brian Atlasthere's any lawyers in the chat they can back me up there's an expectation that the parties to a contract conduct themselves in good faith so even if in the contract it says like for example I'm trying let me think of maybe
06:07:54
Brian Atlassomebody in the chat can think of an example but I do wonder if any lawyers in the chat want to weigh in on like okay you've agreed to come on the podcast um like there's a good faith
06:08:06
Brian Atlasum expectation that you're going to contribute you're you've been refusing like most of the question so it's just bad
06:08:18
Brian Atlasfaith you should play The Crickets please play it okay
06:08:29
Brian Atlasum any lawyers in the chat um have thoughts on this I mean it's breach of contract it's just like
06:08:38
Brian Atlaslike you're just you're obviously trolling at this point and you're just it's not a troll I don't I don't care what it is um obviously
06:08:49
Brian Atlasnot yeah uh I mean I think because you came in as friends you guys like came in oh okay we're going to just be really disruptive and just like try to mess with the podcast and stuff I mean you
06:09:01
Brian Atlascame to be disruptive refusing to engage in the conversation kind of like giving these like passive aggressive troll answers that is disruptive it's a bit of sabotage there is actually a segment in the contract related to that um so I
06:09:14
Brian Atlasdon't know what to tell you um now that I've established my legal position because you made it a legal thing now uh do you wish to in good faith engage in the
06:09:24
Brian Atlasconversation yes okay how are women oppressed in the United States I do not have to answer that question
06:09:36
Brian Atlasit does not mean I'm not engaging in the conversation that that's it's quite literally you not and it's not just one time you've done this I believe you've done this repeatedly throughout the
06:09:46
Brian Atlascourse of the show so this isn't a particularly divisive issue this is like would be a mainstream like conversation you might have in like a class in college um thank you I am currently
06:09:59
Brian Atlasstill learning I mean I can she thinks we don't how you keeping a straight bace right now bro I mean you're in breach of contract um I don't know what what else
06:10:09
Brian Atlasto tell you um so you can either engage or
06:10:18
Jakeyeah I thought this was about dating have you guys never watched the podcast before who cares no you've never watched it so you don't research things that you're about to do that you're about to go into I do whose fault is that if you don't research what you're about to go
06:10:30
Jakeinto we talk about these things all the time right so yeah I mean you're like it's on you but yeah anyways okay
06:10:45
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)um abortion that's how we're oppressed that was my stance that's it um and then like with the pay Gap we always said the pay Gap but like I don't know if the statistics on the pay Gap is true no
06:10:58
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)more like are we getting paid less I don't know I don't know no more I feel like if you do the same job you should get paid the same and um um but nobody should be making choices for us and just because of the strong conservative I
06:11:09
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)know Trump said it's up to the state but I know his cabinet and he has like a all Confederate oh my bad conservative Congress right now who is saying that it's pro-life we don't have
06:11:21
Jakeno choice or saying it that's the only reason he lost a lot of Voters this time around because of his stance on abortion wasn't wasn't far enough to the right as he should no no it wasn't far enough to the right oh it wasn't far enough really
06:11:33
Jakelike a lot of you know Cath and in the country and conservatives were really really lobbying for Trump to do a heartbeat bill but he didn't and he lost a lot of Voters for that reason hey oh
06:11:45
Jakesh so if if you look at his um if you look at his policies particularly with abortion he's actually pretty Progressive unfortunately I wish I think maybe his first term cuz he was so pro-life I remember before him saying
06:11:57
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)some pro- lifee out of [ __ ] R in rhetoric he is he is but kind of he kind of is he's more pragmatic cuz I remember during the debate said he was going to leave it up to the state so that I mean but like that just that in
06:12:12
Avageneral responsibility because he knows the state what the state is for as in like California in New York who they'll like abought a baby at any
06:12:22
Brian Atlastime uh here let's do this so as a show of good faith I'm going to legally advise you you're currently in breach of contract
06:12:33
Brian Atlasas a show of good faith though I'd like to give you one last opportunity to actually respond your position is women are not oppressed in the USA you obviously have a comment because
06:12:44
Brian Atlasyou circled it you disagree how are women oppressed in the United States I honestly did not understand the question
06:12:52
Brian Atlasand that's the honest truth me you've just previously you said you you already said that that is your position you now can't walk it back I'm still Lear
06:13:05
Jakelearning yeah it's a troll it's a troll bro it's not a troll it's a troll you're more than welcome to think whatever you like you said the same thing all night unless you have literal rocks for brain then it's a
06:13:17
Brian Atlastroll um yeah I mean I gave you a chance now you're like shifting it but you clearly understood I I'm suspecting the other ones that you circled you actually do
06:13:29
Brian Atlashave positions on them but you're just refusing to engage you're in breach um I do have to just kick you at the point so I'm just politely going to ask you if you could just get out and leave why are you so offended I'm literally just being
06:13:41
Yamile (Yams) Fuenteshonest I'm so sorry that I'm nonchalant I mean listen it's pretty clear that you're trolling or you're the end of the podcast you obviously don't want to pay me up
06:13:55
Brian Atlasfront uh you'll still get paid but you're going to get docked just cuz we're going to like you're in breach I'll I'll still give you a payment but you got to get out a
06:14:06
Brian Atlasokay cool another one bit the dust wow that's three there oh
06:14:15
Brian Atlaswhoops uh yeah you can't stay here though yeah you got to leave you can you're you got to leave we don't even do
06:14:23
Brian Atlasthat in person so you got to leave you gotta leave
06:14:35
Brian Atlasyou said you going to give me cash up front literally didn't say that you did you want to pull up your yeah pull it up yeah we pay via venmo and cash app you got to leave though we're not dealing with this now you got to leave I'll send
06:14:47
Avamy perfect sounds good that's my ride I don't know what to do is your ride
06:14:58
Rebel (Forever the Rebel)yeah don't leave with her purse
06:15:06
Elenaanyways Kelly why did you vote for Donald Trump what was what really what swayed you this year this time speak dating something funny tell me your funniest dating story go on you
06:15:16
Jaketell me your funniest dating story let's go on 100 Millions I and really why this podcast come on ukra tell us your favorite dating story you want American
06:15:27
JakeUkrainian which one you want Slava UK anyways tell us your favorite your favorite dating Story the one that you tell the girls something funny girl there are many I need to I need to know
06:15:39
Elenamore clear topic someone the worst date you've ever been on go okay one time one man invited
06:15:47
Elename to his luxury luxury house he was billionaire and he show me he has a cinema he no it's a funny
06:15:57
Elenastory and and uh he tell me let's have a dinner on my boat I say okay but he said he tell me before the the boat let's watch the rally it's rally yes the car
06:16:09
Elenaracing yeah yes I was so happy wow he has a cinema so we had to drink and we started watching the rally and we speaking very nice and then the rally is
06:16:19
Elenastarting to moveing like and then I continue speak then he was so nice to me and then when rally started he said shut up I expect he was like crazy I was
06:16:29
Elenathinking like what what's wrong okay I I just for a couple minutes like I didn't understand why he's screaming we continue watching the rally he after um
06:16:40
Elenayou know every 5 minutes there is the break so when was the break he started again nicely oh they want more champagne like nothing happened then I think maybe I'm crazy or what okay we continue
06:16:52
Jakewatching the rally and then I speak something again he start screaming like he's a control freak completely understand if I'm ever watching the football and then a woman comes into the room I get the [ __ ] out right now get
06:17:04
Jakeout and then it's half time I'm like hey baby how are you can can and then you're nice to them but then if they come and stand in front of the TV move so this is normal this is completely normal
06:17:14
Elenacompletely normal no he was control freak then we go on the board oh my God no that is a strange story that is a Str he obviously very much the most funny in the end um we're supposed to have a
06:17:27
Elenadinner and then he tell me do you see that doors there is a pantry room yes Pantry do I say correct so he tell me you have a five minutes to grab whatever he want in that room and then he will
06:17:38
Elenaeat I like there was food in the pantry he tell me you can find something there so you know I was thinking maybe he watching too much he Wasing maybe he
06:17:48
Elenawas watching too much TV like Chef Master Chef or cooking shows you know but I was so hungry because he gave me all the time only champagne so so I had the five minutes I grab something really
06:17:59
Elenait was very crazy freak so me not all the rich man is good they can very crazy he just wanted to watch the ring for the S good
06:18:10
Brian Atlasstory um let's see here uh so that's your friend right
06:18:20
Brian Atlasyes falling off that chair yeah two for two screwed up I don't know if she was like it was an act but that girl is like actually creepy I'm not going to lie yeah I'm going to have notm about her
06:18:31
Brian Atlasface like just there's nothing behind the nothing I mean um so that was crazy like she was here but she wasn't here you know
06:18:42
Jakephysically she was here somewhat chat what do you think what do you think Chad um bro this entertainment think I S a blink once it generally could have been a lizard
06:18:52
Brian Atlasperson yeah Illuminati [ __ ] I don't know these days I don't think I've actually been creep there's maybe like one or two other times I've been creeped out by a girl in the show and that was definitely
06:19:04
Jakeit um whatever we saw the one where someone was um using a stuffed raccoon so that was yeah that was pretty weird and we had somebody who had who had a blood vial in their panties and they we
06:19:16
Jakethought they were going to throw it at us and they were talking about doing witch magic okay that's gross yep they telling best she was cooking up a good she pulled out a blood vial out of her panties we were just we were here just
06:19:29
Caliand she pulled it out mid she pulled it out yep she wasn't a real witch cuz a real witch wented did that wait where did you get this blood from from oh that's disgusting oh she was oh
06:19:41
Calishe's yeah she was about to do some witchcraft I bet she was looking at that vampire stuff you're talking about somebody fall Ling her told you it's another bit of evidence for my
06:19:52
Brian Atlasclim um goly uh Cali I think this is maybe the last one we have and then we're just going to get things wrapped up uh Rebel you say women have equal
06:20:04
Brian Atlasrights to men or women have equal rights to men in the USA you disagree um how so did I put disagree on there I put disagree I saw good it oh so you think women do have equal rights to men in the
06:20:15
Brian AtlasUnited States yeah yeah I do I do I shouldn't disagree with that that's fine then um let me look over any of the pre-show notes probably just going to uh get are
06:20:28
Avawe going through the last question on that questionnaire the last question what about it about uh we going through it oh you're asking if it's the last question no I'm saying are we going through our last question in the
06:20:40
Avatransgender individuals that one what do you mean no our last question like the questions yeah what about it are we going to go over it oh now you want to speak huh like we did our other questions okay what do you want to say
06:20:53
Brian Atlasgo ahead um here's here's her big moment okay yeah read the question too read the question also you have any disagreements with the show go ahead State your disagreements Here Comes The Big M why
06:21:04
Avawhy on a dating podcast does it have to be men against women and women against men why why do we always are you feminist I wouldn't say I'm feminist
06:21:17
Brian Atlasyou're probably feminist your friends are probably feminist um so that was sexist don't that that wouldn't be sexist to assert that a woman's a feminist but um
06:21:28
Brian Atlasand they they are by what I can gather um I mean I want to go actually Beyond just why is it between men versus women why did you guys like maliciously
06:21:39
Brian Atlasintentionally come on the show to troll the show to be disruptive like you guys obviously had a conversation before the show with a malicious intent to come on and just be as disruptive as possible so
06:21:51
Brian Atlasthat was not you see how like calm the conversation has been like it's been fairly respectful between us even though we disagree on certain things once your friend over there left things got really calm this girl over here continued
06:22:02
Brian Atlastrolling but I still you know still kind of you know just kicked her off pretty calmly wasn't a big thing you guys came on with the intention to be disruptive and troll so I'm not really interested I'm just going to outright
06:22:15
Brian Atlasjust reject your assertion because you're you you and your friends were completely bad faith the entire night what did I do you're just sitting there like guilt by association quite frankly you're sitting there you're not like
06:22:29
Brian Atlasyou're not providing any like push back or criticism on your friend's Behavior you just sit there you coign all Behavior it's the total Sisterhood and yeah you've also been kind of trolling too so there's that what did I
06:22:43
Brian Atlasdo you could say it I could hear you out but I don't even hear it yeah that's cool so when it comes to divisiveness the con like in terms of disagreements when it comes to dating or like man
06:22:56
Brian Atlaswomen [ __ ] uh we can have a polite conversation but when your friend is being belligerent and obnoxious yeah that's going to like create a lot of attension and Chaos for the show so I mean it's like that every
06:23:08
Avatime though I'm not saying just this show I'm saying the shows that you've had didn't you just say you haven't watched it no I've been on few so I know how it is I just don't know why like I
06:23:20
Avafeel like if we were to be like okay so how can we make dating for men and women good for us both and like collaborate on these things instead of being like why
06:23:30
Brian Atlasare like we against like it just seems like dividing us more I mean there's a couple things here one the show is adversarial in nature I actually don't this is not something I attempt to hide
06:23:42
Brian AtlasI do hope to have good faith conversations I have my positions on things which tend to come at odds with the a lot of women not all women but a lot of women's views when it comes to
06:23:53
Brian Atlasdating uh I mean I have reasons for this I mean I could just say why do you guys you know have all these objections to like all of men's dating positions like body count um preferring to date women
06:24:05
Brian Atlaswho are not promiscuous like who should pay all this stuff like you guys have adversarial positions and so do we so there's that and then the other thing is
06:24:14
Brian Atlasis that this is one podcast the the uh Genesis of like the mindset that a lot of women have is steeped in feminism
06:24:23
Brian Atlasfeminism is the originator of the Divide between men and women that's the Genesis of the Divide between men and women and y'all are feminists and I don't have any power if you compare the power that the
06:24:36
Brian Atlasfeminist movement and ideology has because it's steeped in every single realm of humanity it's steeped in the education system it's steeped in corporations it's steeped in the government it's steeped in the media
06:24:48
Brian Atlasit's steeped in journalism it's steeped in the news it's steeped in the culture and there's actually a a almost the the gynocentric nature of society reflects this now you might say like if you look
06:25:00
Brian Atlasat universities for example every single University in this country has a women studies a feminist studies a gender studies program these institutions systemic institutions they H they have
06:25:13
Brian Atlaspower they have million or billion dollar endowments every single it's in the trillions of dollars when it comes to the power that these institutions educational institutions have they have
06:25:26
Brian Atlasuh like when it comes to their endowments feminist brainwashing at the University level and then it even goes into like high school man there the teacher are already brainwashing people
06:25:36
Brian Atlasin this feminist nonsense I got one podcast my viewership is like middle very like middle of the road for most streamers I don't have influence feminism has influence if you think I'm
06:25:48
Brian Atlasdecisive this is a reaction to the overreaches of feminism my podcast is combating the false narratives and the brainwashing that feminism has inflicted
06:25:58
Brian Atlasupon Generations upon gen generations and millions and millions of women women have been even [ __ ] even men e men have been brainwashed women have been brainwashed by
06:26:10
Brian Atlasfeminism this is the counterculture I'm combating you think I'm divisive I'm combating the divisive uh rhetoric and ideology that feminism
06:26:22
Brian Atlasis I'm com I'm trying to bring things back to homeostasis feminism is what's [ __ ] everything up if you think I'm divisive step foot in a feminist studies class and tell me that's not divisive how you got this girl here saying that
06:26:34
Brian Atlasmen are oppressors and women are oppressed how's that not divisive you tell me are men the oppressors yes or no yes ah thank you for proving my point
06:26:47
Avayou think men are the oppressors and women are the oppressed how is this not divisive the women are the oppressed I think men are oppressed by men as well men tell their sons not to cry like we
06:26:58
Brian Atlaswere talking about earlier and that's not right yeah so do you think teaching millions of on Millions maybe even every single woman in this country that men are the oppressor class and
06:27:09
Brian Atlaswomen are the oppressed what do you teach the oppressor class tell me to overthrow overcome and by any means necessary right right do you do you think that
06:27:20
Brian Atlasthere should be a feminist Revolution no do you okay do you think you should smash the patriarchy no you don't believe wait you're you think just to be clear you
06:27:32
Brian Atlasthink men are these terrible oppressors men are the oppressor class think they're terrible oppressors oppressors are good oppressors are good or bad they're not good oh okay so men are bad
06:27:44
Brian Atlasthen you just said no no no you said that men are the oppressor class and women are oppressed shouldn't the oppressed class have some sort of class
06:27:54
Brian Atlassolidarity and try to overcome by any means necessary the oppressor class yes ah okay so you want a gender war between men and women I don't don't no I reject the oppressor oppressed
06:28:07
Brian AtlasDynamic that exists between men and women and it's actually funny this isn't this isn't my position anymore but you know what they want the people in power who have power who have money that's class now people people in my chat are
06:28:19
Brian Atlasgoing to be upset by this because this is actually a left leaning talking point but you know there's class and then you know what the people who have the power in this country who have the money who
06:28:31
Brian Atlashave the resources they want the men fighting the women the whites fighting the blacks the gays fighting The Straits so that there can't be any class solidarity when it comes to uh the have
06:28:42
Brian Atlasknots and the have Yachts now now that I've moved more conservative Brian conserv for the record now that I've moved more conservative I reject that too but in
06:28:53
Brian Atlaswell I I don't reject that that's what's going on but I reject the class uh now I have a whole another thing because you
06:29:00
Avatalked about um you said that okay so your audience is mostly what uh I think
06:29:10
Avait's about 80% men 20% women which you are you are you trying to like have have those women like turn like go from feminist to not or like what's your go a lot of women watch the podcast and and
06:29:23
Jakelike I've had a lot of women who have reached out to me and they said they've said that it's changed their views on things for sure because like he said feminism is in the water that you drink and the air that you breathe it's absolutely everywhere in our cult culture and a lot of women are looking
06:29:35
Avaat podcasts like this and they'll watch it and they'll watch the back and forths and sort of definitely change their mind on a lot of things on a lot of feminist positions well that's good it's working for y'all but most of them are men and most of them love to hear how much women
06:29:48
Jakeare degraded actually a lot of them are men and a lot of them have been told for Generations that they're toxic and that they're useless and that the future is female and all of these sorts of talking points and they hear a podcast like this
06:29:59
Jakeand we can actually logically explain our positions and yeah it keep it actually arms them with with arguments yeah yeah okay I mean you haven't actually logically given any arguments tonight so if you wanted to actually
06:30:12
Brian AtlasState your worldview in a coherent way and influence women you should have done so that's your opinion okay I mean I I do actually
06:30:22
Brian Atlasappreciate the question in so far as you came on with your friends and they trolled but at least that at least that was a uh a question you disagree with me
06:30:34
Brian Atlasbut I respect the what seemed to be a genuine question um but I mean I do have to take issue with your view that men are the oppressor class because I mean
06:30:45
Brian Atlaswhat is more divisive than saying men bad men oppressors we women we victims we oppressed okay I'm not saying we're victims and we're oppressed on that one
06:30:55
Avawait on the question that you had that said are we oppressed by man I put I put we're not so I don't feel like that in
06:31:03
Brian Atlasthis current generation so I mean I don't you you did when I did ask you you said women are oppressed men are oppressors I'm not going to just allow
06:31:14
Brian Atlasyou to walk back your position now that you now that the position is untenable I said men and women can be oppressed by men yeah but oh but you're still saying men are the oppressor class and women
06:31:25
Brian Atlascan oppressed too I mean yeah but I mean I that still wouldn't change that you view the relationship
06:31:34
Brian Atlasbetween men and women as a oppressed oppressor Dynamic and in my view that's like a terrible thing to teach women and
06:31:44
Brian Atlasit's an awful thing to inflict upon men okay maybe that's not what I'm saying I'm not saying that's what you're saying don't walk see don't walk it back you got me you got to stand on business I
06:31:56
Brian Atlasmean you say you you want to walk it back because you I mean at least from a debate perspective your position is untenable and you're not prepared to defend your position um
06:32:06
Brian Atlasso I mean you can all you want feminism is divisive it's literally divisive and it's it's not feminism is not uh a science it's
06:32:18
Brian Atlasliterally an ideology that's been accepted into like universities that once used to be respectful like Harvard all the Ivy Leagues feminist [ __ ] every single UC see every single College
06:32:30
Brian Atlasin the country has a feminist studies program women studies program I think it has really destroyed um the family unit feminism
06:32:41
Brian Atlasit's designed to do so it that that's actually if you go way back into the early uh 1900s one of like the uh I think it was maybe in the 60s or 70s one of the women who founded uh this I'm trying to remember if it was the
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Brian AtlasNational Organization for Women which was one of the biggest women's advocacy groups what I believe wait is it that organization one of the women who involved with one of these or organizations said that their goal is to
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Jakedestroy the concept of the nuclear family there's many many quotes like that from many feminists and even Engles who was who co-wrote the Communist Manifesto um because feminist does have a very Marxist route as well he said
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Jakethat the only way for women to ever be liberated is to break from the shackles of the nuclear family from from the family and this is what feem this is in the Genesis of feminine feminism this is what they actually believed it's that
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Roxannathe the oppressive institution is the nuclear family and in order for women to be free they have to break out from the nuclear family and you know um during the College Years and you know in the
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Roxanna20s women in their 20s that is when you should be having children and having a family not searching for um a career you
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Roxannaknow this is what I think I started um my career later in life after I had my children and I feel a lot more satisfied
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Roxannathan a lot of 20-year-olds who are looking at their careers at that age where the childbearing ages and um later on in life when they're ready to have
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Brian Atlaschildren they can't have children it's true you know so it is just destroying F yeah I mean look I'll just say what I was talking about earlier they've got
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Brian Atlasthe they've got people whether it's corporations or people in power however you want to look at it they got the men fighting with the women the blacks fighting with the whites the gays fighting with the Straits whatever kind
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Brian Atlasof intersection that you want to look at they want you distracted it's all divide and conquer that's all it is feminism as far as I know what wasn't it like is it
06:34:46
Brian Atlasuh who like a CIA scop or like here's the here's the reality feminism is inherently anti-male inherently
06:34:55
Brian Atlasanti-male so like you want to know like why men are moving away well I mean I don't know if they've always ever been like pro- feminism but like it's clear to me when it came to this recent
06:35:06
Brian Atlaspresidential election men want nothing to do with Democrats because y'all are anti-male like Democrats are anti-male you don't speak to men at all the right here here's the difference oh I I heard
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Brian Atlassomething really good the other day it was something like this uh people on the left or Democrats say men hold on hide that because they're going to be distracted hide it I'll pull it back up
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Brian Atlaslater they say that uh men you you don't have any problems you are the problem that's what leftists and Democrats say and the right says men you do have
06:35:41
Brian Atlasproblems we don't have any solutions for you so I think both parties they don't really do anything for men but at least the right at least conservatives at least they say we recognize that you have problems and disadvantages and you
06:35:55
Brian Atlasknow you want to know why Donald Trump is in is is President because of [ __ ] feminism and all that [ __ ] that comes with it so maybe be a little bit
06:36:04
Brian Atlasmore you know you know don't push men away so much that's if you want your political agenda like it's funny the Democrats used to be like for the working uh like
06:36:17
Brian Atlasthe working class they're not they're not corporate overlords total corporate overlords I mean the [ __ ] Republicans are too but
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Rebel (Forever the Rebel)um it's different anyways whatever I'm getting into politics [ __ ] it can I say can you guys admit any point in time that women were oppressed by men can any point in time can y'all admit that like it depends what you mean by oppressed it
06:36:39
Brian Atlasdepends like were we told to stay inferior and what any type of way can you guys admit that I mean it depends though because like you always have to
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Brian Atlasdo a con a contrast a comparison to what so for example you would probably say and correct me if I'm wrong that when women couldn't vote like that's
06:37:00
Brian Atlasoppression like women were oppressed uh they couldn't vote do you think that's fair yeah okay during that same period of time so if we go to the 1910s do you
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Brian Atlasknow what happened in like the 1910s yeah was it like depression after the run 20 I don't know what was going on so 1914 1918 was World War I up until
06:37:21
Brian Atlasthat point the most brutal catastrophic War like World War so like involvement of major superpowers like major
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Brian Atlassuperpowers a bunch of countries uh 194 198 uh I think it's like 20 sometimes I get my World War I World