2 OBNOXIOUS Rude Girls KICKED OUT! 1 RAGE QUIT?! The MOST Beautiful Panel EVER??? | Dating Talk #226

Date: 2025-02-05

Duration: 7h 15m

Guests

Brian Atlas

FForever the Rebel >

NNatalie (Oxnard PA)>

YYamile Fuentes >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Rebel (Forever the Rebel)(guest)

SPEAKER_03Aana(guest)

SPEAKER_05Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_07Jake(guest)

SPEAKER_08Natalie(guest)

SPEAKER_09Roxanna(guest)

SPEAKER_10Elena(guest)

SPEAKER_11Ava(guest)

SPEAKER_12Yamile (Yams) Fuentes(guest)

SPEAKER_13Cali(guest)

Key Moments

ControversyNatalie refuses to take shoes off without explanation. Brian argues this shows lack of submission. Debate about whether asking "why" reflects deeper character.

“"Why do I have to take my shoes off?" — Natalie questions studio rule, sparking submission debate”

QuoteElena (Ukrainian) complains about Aana's behavior, says she flagged it much earlier.

“Elena to Brian after Aana episode: "I asked long time ago to control the situation but you didn't"”

QuoteElena says men in America are afraid to pursue women because of feminism/false accusation fears. Contrasts with Ukraine where men actively pursue.

“"In my country if a man likes a woman he will do a lot of stuff to get her. Here man is afraid to do anything."”

ControversyBrian calls out Elena for being in Miami clubs while Ukrainian men die in war. Elena defends herself. Moment of tension.

“Brian points at Elena: "She's in the club in Miami while her countrymen are being slaughtered"”

QuoteJust before being kicked out, Aana says "you're a f***ing weird Brian, considering that you asked somebody on a date, weirdo"

“"You're a f***ing weird Brian, considering that you asked somebody on a date, weirdo"”

OtherAfter repeated interruptions, screaming, name-calling (N-word), and refusal to tone down, Brian kicks Aana out. She refuses to leave, finally exits calling Brian "weirdo" and claiming he asked her on a date. WALKOFF/KICKOUT.

“"Kindly get up and leave" — Aana kicked out after multiple warnings; left saying "I did nothing wrong"”

ControversyRatings round — Brian and Jake rate themselves low (5-6), panel gives themselves 9-10. Viewer chat rates nobody above a 5. Brian disputes their self-ratings.

“Ratings round: panel rates themselves 9-10; Brian says none above a 5; "most delusional panel ever"”

QuoteBrian declares this the most beautiful panel the show has ever had after ratings round.

“"I just want to say this is by their own rating the most beautiful panel we have ever had"”

OtherBrian announces show is going to one show per week starting March, citing 12 flakes on this episode and back pain.

“Big announcement: show going down to one episode per week (Sundays) starting March 2025”

OtherElena tells story of billionaire date who screamed "shut up" during car rally then gave her 5 minutes in the pantry for dinner.

“Elena's billionaire date story — "shut up!" then 5 minutes to grab food from pantry”

ControversyYamile refuses to answer questions repeatedly, says "no comment" citing her contract. Brian accuses her of malicious compliance and breach of contract. Leads to her removal.

“Yamile: "no comment / it's my freedom of speech" — Brian: "you're in breach of contract"”

OtherYamile (Yams) asked to leave for repeatedly refusing to answer questions, citing "no comment" and contract. Exits calmly after Brian invokes breach of contract. KICKOUT/TROLL.

“Yamile asked to leave for bad-faith trolling — "no comment" to every question”

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Brian introduces show and all guests go around the table: Rebel, Roxanna, Elena, Aana, Natalie, Cali, Ava, Yamile, and Jake. Each shares name, age, location, occupation, education, and sings a bit. Multiple guests are musicians/singers.

Relationship Status Round

Each guest shares how long they have been single and their longest relationship. Rebel (bisexual, 1yr single), Roxanna (20yr marriage, now new love of her life), Elena (3yrs single, 100+ dates in America with almost no callbacks), Aana (6mo relationship), Natalie (single since 2019), Cali (6mo single after 2.5yr relationship), Ava (4 weeks single, two 3yr relationships).

Shoes Rule / Submission Debate

Brian asks Natalie to remove shoes; she questions why. Evolves into a long debate about whether asking why = lack of submission, whether submission is conditional or unconditional, and whether a woman's behavior in small situations reflects her relationship behavior.

Job Interview Hypothetical

Jake poses hypothetical: if the man of your dreams was interviewing you, how would you sell yourself? Panel largely answers with "just be myself" — Jake and Brian point out none of them articulated what they would bring to his life.

Men vs Women Oppression Debate

Extended debate about whether men or women are more oppressed. Topics include the draft, Ukraine war, domestic violence laws, legal system bias, Vietnam War, selective service. Elena (Ukrainian) called out for being in Miami clubs while Ukrainian men die in war.

Mansplaining / Racial Oppression Discussion

Discussion about mansplaining as sexist term, Black splaining analogy, power+prejudice definition of racism and sexism. Debate about South Africa and Arab slave trade. Historical slavery discussions.

Aana Kicked Out — Confrontation

After repeated interruptions and screaming, Brian asks Aana to leave. She refuses initially, calls him names, accuses him of racism. Finally leaves while Rebel and Yamile debate whether to stay. Things calm significantly after she exits.

Ratings Round — Panel Rates Themselves

Gorlock the Destroyer asks panel to rate their looks 1–10 (no 7). Most give 9–10. Brian declares this the most beautiful panel ever. Brian gave himself a 6 (adjustable), Jake a 5. Panel rated Brian 7 and Jake 8–9. Elena said she'd be doing them a favor.

Aging and Attractiveness

Brian asks each woman if she will be better looking in 10/20/30 years. Most claim yes indefinitely; Brian is frustrated by lack of honesty. Yamile claims she will look the same at 74 as at 24. Brian offers $5K + free plastic surgery to anyone willing to get age-advancing procedure.

Billionaire Bet

Brian bets any panelist $100,000 if she marries a billionaire within 5 years, she must pay him $10,000 if she does not. Elena verbally accepts the wager. Brian declares them the most delusional panel ever.

Announcement: Going to One Show Per Week

Brian announces the show will go from 2x/week to 1x/week (Sundays only) starting in March due to booking stress (12 flakes for this episode), back pain, and burnout. Plans to return to 2x when things stabilize.

Body Count Discussion

Panel discusses whether body count matters, whether men are insecure to care about it. Goes around the table for everyone's body count. Rebel discloses ~7 (3 guys + ~4 girls). Roxanna says under 10. Others decline to specify.

Man vs Bear in the Forest

Classic dating discourse question: would you rather meet a man or bear in the forest? Most pick man; one picks bear. Discussion about safety and trust.

Should Men Pay on First Dates

Questionnaire item: women should pay 50/50 on first dates. Rebel, Roxanna, and Elena disagree — believe man should pay. Others are okay with 50/50.

Transgender Women Discussion

Debate on whether trans women are women, whether dating a trans woman is straight, autogynephilia, and whether trans athletes in women's sports is fair. Rebel takes tolerant view; Cali (Yamile present) says born male or female is fixed.

Elena's Worst Date Story

Elena shares funny story of a billionaire date who screamed "shut up" at her while watching a car rally, then made her rummage through his pantry for dinner within 5 minutes.

Yamile Kicked Out — Trolling

After Yamile repeatedly says "no comment" to questionnaire items and refuses to engage in good faith, Brian invokes breach of contract and asks her to leave. She exits calmly. Brian deems her a troll/plant.

Feminism Debate

Brian delivers extended monologue about feminism being the source of division between men and women, citing its presence in education/media/government. Rebel defends feminism as pro-women not anti-men. Jake cites feminist academic quotes about destroying the nuclear family.

AI Age Advancement / Gender Swap Fun

Discord creates AI age-advanced photos of all guests. Brian also shows gender-swapped versions of each guest and themselves. Light-hearted segment near end of show.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasyears okay you said sorry six and a half months you've been single or sorry six months six months and then two and a half years for your longest relationship yep okay all right uh the the time

Brian Atlasperiod you've been single for six months the two and a half year relationship is that the one that ended six months ago no uh who broke up with who in the two and a half year relationship I did he was cheating on me and were you cheating

Brian Atlason him no okay the six Monon relationship or sorry 6 months ago what was the period of time you were dating that guy probably for like 7 months eight

Avamonths something like that who broke up with who I broke up with him okay what about you relationship status So currently I'm single it's been like four

Avaweeks now and my last partner we were together for almost 3 years my longest relationship is 3 years the most recent relationship that ended about a month ago was a three-year

Brian Atlasrelationship um well I've had another three-year relationship but so you've had two three-year relationships yes okay Rel who ented uh who ented them me both of them okay all right so single

Avafor 4 weeks uh why did you break up with the most recent guy um you know we had different paths really mhm not going to

Avaget too far into the details but um yeah just a difference in like well we were living together so I like to live a

Avacertain way he wasn't living how I would hope he's dirty so um you know is that what it is he was

Avaunclean it's not no it's not a hygiene thing at all no he would scour himself in the shower it's not that what was the problem um really his attitude like is

Avathe way he'd act so what do you mean what parts of his attitude um just like short temper little like overly like um

Avaego egotistical type yeah okay uh what about you I'm single my longest relationship was 2 years all right how long have you been

Brian Atlassingle since 2021 all right you've been uh any prospects or any dating in this past 3 four years no so you've been single for like four years then about yes okay is

Brian Atlasit the two-year relationship the one that ended four years ago yes okay and uh who broke up with who he broke up with me why he was

Brian Atlasseeing another woman multiple multiple other women okay and uh have you been on any dates or seen any guy for any period of time

Brian Atlasin the past four years no so you've been celibate for four years yes for good really you better go girl

Brian Atlasgo girl celibacy there you have it uh Jake if you want to share yeah uh longest was a year and a half and dating to marry all right rock and roll so we're going to get into some of the pre-show notes but first we have a

Brian Atlascouple super chats we have to get to Damian have you been keeping an eye on the audio there's a couple complaints from people but uh pelagic this is called a strawman argument she's totally deflecting using logical fallacy to dodge and

Brian AtlasGaslight uh manipulation uh this is I'm not sure big

Brian Atlaswords thank you uh pelagic trigger word trigger word trigger word I do appreciate it pelagic big thank you uh the state of things rumor office either way it's Brian space asking someone to take their shoes off

Brian Atlasat the entrance is the same as saying this is my boundary any hesitation is lack of submission all of y'all's submission is conditional and a headache that is a good point the state of things

Rebel (Forever the Rebel)uh if any of the panelists wish to respond to this they can my stilos are so I feel like the boundaries with the house is correct but like you comparing house rules to being in a relationship and being a leader a guy in a

Jakerelationship not the same you might have to be a little more gracious might they might reflect into a relationship right how you how you act in your everyday life I don't know I might act are in Rel strangers differently than my partner

Brian Atlaslet me ask you a question let's say you're out at a restaurant and you're with uh you're on a you're with a a guy that you uh I don't know first date and he treats that waitress like [ __ ] well

Brian Atlasthe way that you treat somebody out in public isn't necessarily going to be an indicator of how he's going to treat you however despite this if he treats

Brian Atlasthat waitress like a piece of [ __ ] and is [ __ ] rude to her you don't think somewhere in your head it's it doesn't even cross her mind is he going to treat me like this in

Rebel (Forever the Rebel)some way or one day that never you wouldn't be like well maybe it's okay it does definitely but it's nuances in that like us here we

Rebel (Forever the Rebel)don't know you guys that much so you guys are setting your boundaries we're going to question you a little bit more versus our partners or something like that cuz we know them for sure trust their judgment know that they have our

Rebel (Forever the Rebel)best interest at heart not saying you guys don't but it's just it's it's it is a different situation not saying that anything can't be reflected from that but it's a different situation I mean I

Brian AtlasI don't understand this we're going to question you thing like it's I would actually agree if I was like hey where that stupid In-N-Out hat you might ask

Brian Atlasoh why but it's occurs to me that asking somebody to remove their shoes at the front door is a is a not only commonly

Brian Atlaspracticed um what's the term for like um manners common practice it's a common I agree with that house rules is house rules it's a common practice and even if

Brian Atlasit wasn't she admitted to practicing it herself so she would already be aware of the various justifications as to why somebody would want such a rule in place

Brian Atlasthey don't you don't want dirt Dragged In you don't want dirty shoes on carpet whatever it is maybe it's uh uh when it comes to germs or bring whatever it is whatever it is so so as a woman do you think women are always supposed to

Jakesubmit to every man that they meet no no no but but but what he's saying though is that that's a reflection of a certain personality type and what it is is it's a rejection of authority because in that particular instance that's something that that doesn't really require a

Jakequestion yeah I'll take my shoes off so he's saying that she is actually quite disgree rather than submissive and he's trying to he's trying to dig deeper to see how it reflects in the relationship I don't disagree I question that's not

Avathe same and submission being submissive is a scale like you could be somewhere on that scale like you don't have to say yes to everything that means it's not it's not really a scale actually because

Jakewhat it means is that you say yes to your man in what in what he wants talking listen listen but listen listen I I understand the distinction

Jakeit's not funny I understand the distinction between relationship and what happened here and we've made the distinction about 20 times now when we say that what happened was a reflection of something that might happen in a relationship now we're talking about

Jakebeing in a relationship okay everyone understand good okay so in a relationship though it's quite um it's quite distinct when you're talking about being submissive because if you get to choose when you're submissive or not

Roxannathat just means that you're the boss can I something um so I think that this issue is more of a manners etiquette thing than like showing if they're

Roxannasubmissive to to a man I agree yes it's more manners and like how you were brought up and um being being um uh I

Roxannadon't know I'm Persian so like we're taught from a young age to be really like kind and when you go to somebody's house it's like whatever they say um

Roxannagoes and then usually the host is always like um offering things to the guest and everything so it's a um it's more maybe

Brian Atlasa cultural thing and also etiquette rather than a measure of submission to a man I I would agree with you but I think you can make certain um inferences about

Brian Atlassomebody's behavior and this all stems from she was saying like oh men are are no longer masculine well I don't disagree with that but I think women are no longer feminine and a component of

Brian Atlasfemininity is submission you guys want traditional men but you don't want to be submissive you want a dominant man you want a leader but you don't want to

Brian Atlassubmit and so we're not dating this isn't a like relationship Dynamic but like I'm going to make an inference like

Brian Atlasfor example if with with that uh if if I see a girl being really combative and disagreeable like if I'm on a first date with her and she's being disagreeable to

Brian Atlasthe waiter or she's kind of like questioning something not with me but somebody else in a way that I'm like uh like or if you go to somebody's house and she questions while she has to take their shoes off yeah yeah if like if she

Brian Atlasthat's actually a really good example if I was on a date with a girl and I was going over to my buddy's house with if I was on a date with a girl and I was going over to my buddy's house and my buddy had a rule like hey you got to

Brian Atlastake your shoes off at the front door and she was like why I would be like that's not directed than me that's not directed than me but that's like red flag for the

Jakerelationship so it's like a personality like measure like measuring what their personality is going to be and also that would be embarrassing in public if you were to take them to someone's house and that would embarrass you by you know

Brian Atlasstarting this thing about taking the shoes off Absol I'm like this is a important Rel like if it was like a work meeting or something and you're going over to the CEO's house for dinner he invited you for like oh you're about to get a raise you're about to get a

Brian Atlaspromotion and then you bring your girlfriend and the the the the nice wife is like oh excuse me dear could we just have you take your shoes off at the front and then she's like why bro that

Aanapromotion over if she's with her man then she should probably turn to her guy and be like why do you think he wants me to take my shoes off no no oh my I mean I don't I don't think it's reasonable I understand like you should

Aanatake your shoes I didn't have a problem taking my shoes off since got here sure but I'm just saying like there's other ways you go about it that I wouldn't say is non-s submissive like I don't know I don't I don't know I feel like maybe

Aanayou're right about how it comes on like a you said it comes on a scale and you said it doesn't but you said something about oh I'm sorry my brain is fried [ __ ] but when you're talking about like personality traits like

Jakeagreeableness being more disagreeable that comes on a scale some people are less agreeable than others you seem like a kind of like a disagreeable person but um men tend to be a little bit more disagreeable than women but not by that

Nataliemuch I actually work with people and all my people love me and I have a great rep doesn't mean you're a bad person uh it's not that I think you're trying to it's okay but uh what am I trying to do what

Nataliedo you think I'm trying to do I think both of you trying to walk uh like really high volume on my stilettos letting go at the door but it's okay it's not that when I say that um you seem like a disagreeable I'm also a very

Jakedisagreeable person you might have been able to tell Brian's also a very disagreeable person doesn't mean you're a bad person no no not but I'm just saying you know it's like we turned the whole subject into M into the mic we

Natalieturned the whole subject about me taking down myy letter at the door it's been like a 15 I think in terms of relationships though it is it is a bit black and white when it comes to it's

Natalienot reflecting on who I am or my personality or my uh dating uh habits or behavior yeah but can you see how it might be an indicator

Nataliecould be you know you don't know me I don't but we have to go off on what we've seen so we've only known you for an hour but if you judge me on one thing that's because of my shoes me asking why

Brian Atlasit's okay well to to your to that though first impressions are super important I bet every single girl girl here at this table has been on a first date with a dude and the dude you know within 10 seconds don't like this dude don't want

Brian Atlasto see him again you've already made up your mind first impressions are yeah first impressions super important you guys look at a dude he might not even open his mouth and you've already decided Never Gonna Never Gonna date

Brian Atlasthis guy never going to sleep with him he gets nothing so this idea that I mean that that like women operate the same way you guys are going to totally reject guys immediately if he's not on point in

Aanathe first five minutes of the date it's over I think that's too short I think that's too short of time cuz I think I'd give them about the whole date I give them the whole date I I'm patient enough that I can sit here so you're telling me

Brian Atlasyou're you're telling me that you haven't made up your mind within the first 10 seconds as to like have you had a one night stand or hooked up with a

Aanaguy yeah whatever it is what it is you figured that out immediately you don't oh and now now now but I didn't though because maybe

AanaI'm thinking about it for a while I actually I went on the whole date and I'm like ah he did a couple of weird things but then I go home and I'm thinking about I'm like H it wasn't that bad he only said he wouldn't take his

Jakeshoes off at the door you went home alone of course I went home alone it's the first date well he was talking about the hookups oh the hookups uh did it let's move on you probably you probably knew within

Jakethe first like 10 minutes in that particular situation how drunk I think women tend to get a really good women tend to have a really good gauge on whether they like the guy pretty much straight away I just wouldn't say it's within 10 minutes I would give it longer than that for

Jakesure Fair um Jake I need to get up really quick to check the audio you want to ask a question for the panel all right so we're going to do a scenario it's a hypothetical scenario that you guys can

Jakeengage with if you were at a job no sidebar conversations guys if you were at a job interview but the job interview was for the man of your dreams imagine everything you could ever possibly want in a man that's the guy he's there but

Jakewhat you've got to do is you've got to walk into to the interview and you've got to yourself how are you going to sell yourself how are you going to show him that you're special and different can we start on that end that's a deep question does anybody feel

Aanalike starting I would just be myself cuz if it's meant to be it'll work out and what is what's yourself I mean I don't know I would like to say that I'm like outgoing I'm funny I'm I'm nice you know

Aanathere's there's a lot of things that go into me but I think when you're around me you you'll pick up the vibe and if you're not into that that that is what it is then you're obviously not my dream man because my dream man would accept me for who I am and how I bring myself to

Nataliethe table okay and yourself um if it was for a dream man I will listen to what you have to say to me because when you listen they really

Natalietell to you who they really are so I will bring some questions and see you know what and how we answer so you're going to flip the script and interview

Nataliehim uh both ways yeah I let him talk I said you said you're going to bring question questions for him yeah and I'm going to bring some questions yeah but you said the man of your dream so of course you have to ask

Jakesome question no you already know he's the man of your dreams that's the that's the whole hypothetic oh I didn't understand that part yeah so you already know he's the man of your dreams okay everything you could ever want what do you just going to be me and let him lead

Jakethe way absolutely what if he sits there and he's got his feet up on the table yeah and he's doing this like Mr Burns okay and he's just waiting for you to talk okay in like a really sort of like mysterious handsome sort of going to

Nataliebreak a joke to break the silence bring something funny okay and yourself I guess I would just be myself that's a hard question to answer what is

Jakeyourself I don't know I try speak into the microphone I don't know I could be a lot of things um I could be goofy I could be intelligent um it depends on the vibe where we're at but if he says if he if his question to you is tell me

Caliabout yourself like I want to know I want to know what makes you different what makes you special and what you bring to my life go if he's the man of my dreams I'm not going to have to sell myself this is not going to be a Pitch whole presentation he's going to love it or he's going to ha you don't think that

Avayou would have to sell yourself to the man of your dreams definitely you just have to appeal okay and yourself I really agree with all of them and she said about the questions I agree with that because if he's the man of my

Avadreams and I know what I want well what does he want everything you could possibly think of he's got it so now what would you say so I would ask him what he's looking for in a moment and I would also try to be that for him and um

Avayou know of course come with all my natural qualities and um yeah over time I mean over time a room for a few minutes is not going to let you know who

AvaI really am we would spend time together to reveal that in time okay I'd be

Jakemyself come up with a new answer guys walk there whatever is whatever that self is what is it tell us tell us

Rebel (Forever the Rebel)what it is I'm yumy if you know me then you know me okay and if you don't you'll get to know me I know if my dream man would be sitting interviewing waiting like I felt

Jakethe idea is the idea is that it's a hypothetical so with a hypothetical it's an imaginary scenario it's designed to to get an answer so I would just offer to be his best friend and then if it grows into something more than that

Rebel (Forever the Rebel)that's cool cuz I feel like my dream guy could just be my friend too cuz I'm cool with just having a cool guy friend you know being best friends is the most important thing the relationship and all that could come after or whatever you

Roxannaguys decide to do so I would just be like let's be friends first yeah yeah I would be like I would definitely be myself and then like just start off as

Roxannafriends you know cuz maybe he is not my dream man you know maybe he's not within the hypothetical he is your dream man okay all right well I

Roxannamean I would just try to you know be friends with him and and see where it goes and if he

Elenadesires me then he desires me if he doesn't next you know okay so if I would meet the man of

Elenamy dream first of all I would look at his eyes and then I'm sure I would be very shy because when you meet the man who you really like it's like hard to look in his eyes I would smile I would

Elenashy I would be red and I just like little bit FLIR but it's coming naturally and we have just little topic and I'm very strong woman but when I me the right man I become very like a

Elenakitten and we'll see what what will happen after so you just sell yourself in any way it's not a self it's a natural behavior uh when you meet the right man with the right energy it's

Elenalike it's maybe only with me working like that but I feel like I want to be weak and I want to be behind this man and I want I

Elenadon't I start to imagine this beautiful man and actually Ione he be stronger than me and that he take the situation

Elenais his in his hands okay so we know little by little he will he will find out me and then he

Jakeyes fantastic okay okay now we're going to go for one more round um now so the idea of the hypothetical is to test your answers and to see what you guys

Jakeobviously come up with put your ideal man in mind right this guy's tall handsome he's successful he's busy he's on his grind and everything what do you think this guy

Aanawants what do you think he wants go what do I think I what I think he wants he wants someone to confide in and be there for him um like probably as a busy man you have a lot of

Aanaconflicts throughout your day so somewhere that he can come home and and feel comfortable and feel like you know we can have a conversation say there was a problem like we can have a conversation and not get all up in our

Aanafeelings and feel stressed out by I don't know just someone that's there for them because it's it's hard nowadays to have someone who genuinely cares and you feel like you can confide to them no

Nataliematter what so just to be that for somebody else I I bet that's what they want okay from my experience and my question and

Natalietalk with men's of all levels I think Men first thing they like is loyalty and somebody that can listen and understand

Nataliesomebody that they can come to and talk on any subject and they find it um smart and um somebody that can give them

Nataliesometime advice advice this is a great partner when you can be a little bit of everything

Calitogether um I would just want to be his peace simple you think he would want peace uh yeah especially if he's successful um obviously he's doing something that's important most people don't have someone they can confide and

Calispeak to yeah I would just want to be his peace anything else you can think of no that's what does it mean to be someone's peace that could be a lot of different things um sometimes they need

Aanaa shoulder to cry on maybe someone to put a smile on their face um some this guy this guyy is someone who never cries that sounds like a problem that sounds like a major problem that needs to be

Jakefixed so someone who doesn't cry yes why why why does water that means tion why why does why why do you have to summon tears why do you have to have moisture coming from your face to to to be normal

Aanato get something out there's obviously builtup tension inside of you if you feel like you have to cry about it there's some sort of overwhelming feeling inside your body and if you're not tapping into those feelings that

Aanamake you feel like you're going to cry there's something wrong you need to express that and get that out before you put it out in different ways because if you're not crying or feeling some sort of sadness when you're overwhelmed or

Aanasad then you're definitely putting it out in a different way oh you want to fight oh you want to push someone away or act a certain type of way like there's something behind not feeling

Jakeable to cry men who don't cry is not available emotionally there we go what if they love going to the gym and just punching the [ __ ] out of the boxing bag and that's that's the way that's the way that they do it and they never cry but

Nataliethen that's not that's more than that's not just focusing tell me how it's different tell me how it's tell me how one is a better emotional release than the other it's called suppressing when you go to the gym you elevate your uh

Jakeendorphine when you're emotional you lower all your guards and your walls and you actually so a little bit not submissive but you you want the man to

Jakebe submissive again so anyways back to back to what you were saying how how is it a better or worse release of energy cuz I would definitely claim that going to the gym and hitting the boxing bag for an hour is I think that's really I

Jakethink that's really important it's the same thing because what you essentially said is that this is like an energy buildup you've got things inside you and you need to release right so if you need to release it and then my way of doing that is going to the gym and hitting the bag for an hour and then your way of

Aanadoing it is to cry like why is my way worse I'm not saying that it's worse I just think that it's not you're not tapping into all of it you're not tapping into your actual emotions okay we're getting out the anger that's M

Aanaanger is a mask of sadness or something else it's not just anger you don't just get angry and be angry for no reason so you think that somebody can't cut you off on traff in traffic and you're not actually angry yourself okay but you're

Jakegoing to no someone cut you off in traffic you're angry and you're going to go punch a punching bag about it come on there's something you need to work on so what I said was if somebody cuts you offering traffic um and you get angry about it does that mean that you're

Aanamasking sadness well that's what you just said crying is something deeper than just anger it's it anger probably follows up on it because you're it's like something else I I I'm and also

Aanamaybe you're so upset in traffic because it triggered you in some way maybe something else happened a long time ago and when that guy cut you off you were like ooh that pisses me off so bad and you're like wait why does this piss me

Roxannaoff so bad I'm just driving in my car or maybe you're just angry cuz you get cut off and you wanted to say something yes um so people were saying that like men are feminine these days like they're

Roxannalike not as masculine and I think a man crying is like very feminine and make them not masculine age if a guy cries I like it's such a it's an instant turnoff

Jakeand and like it's pretty much the same with all women but they'll lie to you and say that oh it's not a turn off I really like it when my man is like weeping in my shoulder which is just a total [ __ ] look I'm not saying that but I'm also I'm not saying cry about

Aanaeverything in the world that ever makes you H like ever made you mad but I'm saying to if you really feel that much emotion to let it out and cry I mean that shouldn't be a problem that should not be something that you're avoiding

Jakedoing yeah but do you understand why based on what you guys all just said which is that it's very unattractive for a man to cry do you do you understand why there are certain cultural parameters that are put up and cultural walls that are put up for men which

Jakemeans that they have to find other ways to get around these emotional states because the reason why you're actually not very attracted to a man who cries is because every fiber of your being is designed to be attracted to a man who

Jakecan be strong in hard times right so if he's crying instantly you're going to think to yourself gosh what if something goes wrong like financially or what if there's an intruder or what's he going

Jaketo do is he just going to collapse and cry so I mean if he if he has a family member who's just died and he's just heard the news and there's like something like crazy just happened you can understand that like release of

Jakeemotion because that's do however if he's just like crying all the time then that's or crying over things that he can just of deal with then that's another thing but also guys

Jakedon't like with me for example I just don't ever feel the need to do that like if I've got a problem and it's like really something that's eating away at me for the most part I'm going to give one of my brothers a call or I'm going to give one of my friends a call and we're going to have a really logical

Jakeconversation and we're going to fix the problem however if you guys are really emotional about something and you come to me about it what do you want me to do you want me to listen and not give you a solution you want me to just make sure that you feel heard right that's the

Aanadifference between men and women sometimes yeah because men are their first instinct is to okay so how can I fix this problem whereas when you talk to a woman they're like okay I'm going to let you vent I'm going let you get

Aanathat out I'm not saying that a man should just cry every time there's an issue and they're so overwhelmed I'm saying if there is okay wait hold on hold on so you got this a man shouldn't

Aanacry you know every single time there's a problem but if you can fix that problem what would you be crying for okay I understand but if there's something so de someone died and you're not crying about it what aren't you releasing what aren't you taking care of mentally

Jakebecause there's nothing you can do to fix that but at the earlier in the conversation you were saying it's like a it's like a buildup of emotions and there might be something that you think of when you were from when you were 12 that made you really sad that when the person cut you off and traffic you just

Jakewant to cry that was sort of your logic that we all have these build these buildups of anxiety and emotion and we do I mean we're all creatures who sort of carry all different kinds of Life Experiences some of them make you sad some of them make you happy we're all

Jakegoing to die one day we all have to sort of uh be cool with that at some point uh and you know we all have hopes of heaven and fears of hell so I understand that however with guys generally we tend to

Jakejust deal with things completely different to you women actually enjoy crying a lot of the time they'll sit there and they'll be like all right it's cry time and I'm going to sit here for an hour and I'm just going to cry and they can do [ __ ] like clean the dish or

Jakethey walk around their house and talk to a friend whereas if a guy does cry generally that's something like really serious it's serious and you and you normally want to be completely alone or

Jakemaybe in in with that girl that your no no no or or with one of your one of your very very close friends who you can really trust like a serious conf they all make fun of each other why do you

Jakefeel comfortable crying in front of some men that literally they be like your jacket looks stupid fol hey you think my jacket looks stupid no no no that was just my example um no but um in terms of men crying in front of each other I think

Jakethat that's a myth it's something that females think that guys do but I've had different men who have confided in me in like really really serious times when they're going through something immense and then they've cried in front of me

Jakeand normally it's like I'm not going to sort of you know console you like Pat your head for half an hour but if that happens then I'm going to sit there with you I'm probably going to be be silent for a little while and then when Once that's done we're going to come to a

JakeSolutions based we're we're going to have a Solutions based conversation right whereas but the key difference is that when women do that to you if you start trying to give him Solutions they're like just shut up and just listen to me cuz did you give the moment

Aanaof silence like you did for your homeboy with with the women you get pretty much all silence that's all you do yeah well I'm just saying like to be with a man who doesn't cry at all is not

Jakehealthy I'm not saying he should always cry I'm not saying that it's not okay to cry there are but you have to understand there are a lot of guys like that though who would never cry even if something the worst thing you can ever imagine happen there is a difference between

Avalike crying and shedding tears because crying to me sounds like you're just like whining about it crying and girls on the phone with their friends crying

Avalike that's crying if you like take a moment and like shed some tears you can like by all means do that and not lose any respect from me because I'll

Aanaunderstand the situation and if I am your pece I will understand why that's going on and I've had my man cry in front of me before sh it tear and then go punch that punching bag you were talking about show me how strong you are

Jakecome on we gonna get through this baby well I mean I don't think that if you would shed a tear then you would do that next necessarily but um generally speaking there are so many guys who I know who are the like the most sort of emotionally intelligent if we want to

Jakeuse that word men that I know that would never shed a tear I would never see them shedding a te but they're if we want if we want to use the word emotional intelligence then they're completely emotional intelligence because it they're completely emotionally

Jakeintelligent and the reason why is because whatever comes their way they can process it in real time and not react to it not have an emotional reaction to it and I think that that actually is control the highest form of

Jakeof emotional intelligence cuz to only use it when you need it yeah whereas women these days will tend to say these guys aren't emotionally intelligent they're not emotionally available how emotionally intelligent would be crying

Jakewhat what was that all time to be like emotionally to not be emot well you would agree with me that generally the sentiment these days in society is that men aren't emotionally intelligent enough and women are the emotionally

Jakeintelligent ones and the reason why is because men don't show emotion right they think that an outward reflection or an outward demonstration of emotion is is is showing that you're emotionally

Aanaintelligent I think today the problem is every guy shows all their emotions and whether they do it in a aggressive or a weird way they're still showing ex

Aanaimmense amounts of emotion so to say like oh I want a guy who you know is emotionally intelligent would be someone who knows when their emotions are appropriate here's what I think you guys really want and here's and I think that

Jakethis would be a characteristic of everybody's dream man in here the one who you meant meant to meant to sell yourself to before um I think that you you guys would want a man who's completely stoic doesn't have emotional

Jakereactions doesn't have emotional reactions to you and to your Outburst he's able to leave the house go to the gym come back and have a rational conversation and is able to be the sort

Jakeof sturdy rock face that your waves of emotion crash into well I think that the vast majority of women trying to see so so so so this is what this is what what

Jakewomen will say is that they they want to have a man who they can like connect with emotionally like that but no woman really wants that what they want is a man who's going to leave that situation if it's getting emotional and heated and then come back later and be like all right we're going to have a conversation

Rebel (Forever the Rebel)about this now please don't leave me I don't think every woman is like that and I don't think crying automatically equals weakness I think that's what it is like I feel like there's nothing wrong with setting the here it's still handling your business something can

Rebel (Forever the Rebel)hurt you and you still find a solution to that and take a moment to cry I don't personally view that as weakness or I want my man to be to tough all the time that is how would you feel though if your man cried in public and your

Jakefriends were there oh hell no I don't even cry in public I don't cry public so you should this is what I'm saying though and and so of furthering on from that last point that um generally women want a man who is to the outside world

Jakehe's very stoic and he's like got this sort of he's he's aggressive and dominant and and you know forges his own path in life but then on like a cold Sunday morning you want to see behind the veil maybe just a little bit I think

Nataliethat generally speaking women tend to want that just in moments when he's with you then you maybe see behind the veil a little bit I think the right person show you both side he show you his masculine

Nataliehe show you his sensitive side too it's again have to do with how available is emotionally and mentally it's funny because there's been uh like a lot of

Jakestudies done on what women actually are aroused by and one of the books that I find really interesting is called a billion Wicked thoughts and it's by a bunch of Google engineers and what they

Jakedo is they got like a billion uh Google searches from women and to see what women's pornographic fantasies were right can you guys guess what they would

Jakehave been no I wouldn't want to gay porn that wasn't one of them so so some of the most some of the most watched uh sort of adult content for

Jakewomenaging billionaires vampires how do you know they're a billionaire billionaires vampires it's going to make sense in a second guarante actual uh werewolf surgeon and pirate so they have

Jakebe but what women did they ask what level of women it was completely anonymous because it was a billions of different Google SE would you want anyone to know that let me let me let me let me let me land Google Google search

AanaI heard you look what are the most popular movies and TV shows that we've seen women [ __ ] since you said vampires would be like Twilight disgusting does that now shock

Aanayou that vampires was a part of it um it doesn't shock me it just gross no book The Movie noge Book yeah but the he he built her a house that's the type of

Aanaright he's very he's very competent what else did cry he sure did cry said I love what's the most popular what's the most popular book especially in recent times

Jakethat women have bought um exactly right 50 Shades of Gray what's he he's a he's a billionaire and what he is he's a beast to the outside

Aanaworld but then she gets to tame him it's called it's like a beauty in the Beast for these surveys sheit she literally gets tied up and beat and he's like oh yeah well I mean to her he's he

Jakehe's like he he warms to her in the end right have you guys ever seen them there's a movie called uh 365 I think and it's about an Italian mob boss who kidnaps this woman for a whole year and then after the year

Jakethey eventually fall in love women are obsessed but women are obsessed with that movie why are they obsessed with that movie seen why are they so turned on by that movie because well it's because he's a

Jakedangerous he's a dangerous mob boss that falls in love with her and then shows her like a bit of a different side right so all this to say that the Beauty and the Beast archetype is something that is

Jakedeeply deeply ingrained within women and even that movie Beauty and the Beast was made for that particular reason as well because women want a beast who they can I think also we all as children we've

Nataliebeen brainwash that we have to have some type of relationship because we grow up in a mother and a father and a family thinking this is the ultimate how about

Natalieinvest in yourself grow yourself so you think it's better is that brainwashing the type of stuff put on TV I think the stuff they put on TV they put to you this perfect family you know the mother

Brian Atlasthe Father the children that's supposed to be that's how just to be clear you think it's brainwashing for there to be a mother and a father no it's brainwashing to think that a beast is good a beast a be

Jakeno no no it's the archetype the archetype is Beauty and the Beast right so when I say Beast I'm talking about the archetypal figure of the hyper masculine guy the guy who locks you in a Cellar in a basement his talking I'm not

Jakethe one who was watching it on repeat and and like that was women who were doing that women are obsessed with that movie they're obsessed with 50 Shades of Gray they they they get their their uh eroticism through Reading what type of

Aanamen I mean what type of movies and books The Men read and what shows them what they like men are visually stimulated women are narrative I'm not reading no book I'm trying to see some titties you guys probably all read fairy

Rebel (Forever the Rebel)B what no no me that beauty and the be archetype come from wanting to feel special I think everybody wants to have that special part of somebody like oh this person just like for me like men don't

Rebel (Forever the Rebel)want their women giving it up to everybody it's the same way like I don't want you showing that vulnerable side to everybody it's the same way I don't think it's about wanting a tame of Beast it's about wanting to feel special that I get a certain part of you that nobody

Jakeelse does it's the intimacy and vulner it's also the representation of the masculine archetype that women desire and even if they don't say they desire it all of the scientific resear shows that that is what

Jakethey me when I'm walking with my man and be like oh I ain't going to mess with her yeah they don't like feminine man but uh anyways we didn't get through the whole job interview thing before that's fine though um but all that to say with

Jakethe job interview that it's interesting to see because not one of you guys said during the job interview what you're going to bring to his life and what you can do actually I did by showing myself I fin you just talked about your yourself but like in the initial one

Jakewhich was which was off the cuff it was a little the same deck so I could do a presentation I'm just kidding I don't think you said so um but uh yeah so it was interesting to see that we didn't

Aanafinish no one said that but the initial one no one said it and that was a raw study the initial one that I said was that I would bring my authentic self and I think that that within itself brings a lot to the table that's about who it's

Jakeabout you yeah that's who I'm speaking for who else am I speaking for when you say how do you I know you're very confused by it but when you say how do you sell yourself to somebody you're meant to say what can I bring to

Aanayour life I a big butt and I'm very thoughtful and I care like what do you want me to say you're going to you're going to say uh you're going to I'll take my shoes off

Jakewhen I come inside yeah come on can you carry me can you carry me to the front actually at Le or at least just don't refuse to that would be a good idea but you were on a right PA when who said that you're going to ask him questions

Jakewas that you but we didn't finish ask question you know you you said that you were going to ask him questions yeah I say I'm going to ask yeah yeah right I thought that might have been a good answer if it was followed to a conclusion which was not The Logical

Jakeconclusion saying said he's just going to sit there like this and I said I'm going to break the silence yeah I know that's that's irrelevant but what what we were talking about when we said that was that I thought that there was going to be someone who took it to a logical

Jakeconclusion and was actually asking him about what how can I help you what what about what about your finish girls we waited for our answers because you guys

Jakeare you guys are all taking the piss out of it exactly like how can I be your service but but God forbid God forbid you actually have to serve the man that

Aanayou're with I don't think that the my dream man wants me to crawl in the door who said that and lay on the floor and say take me take me I'll do anything for

Jakeyou because now you're a thirsty [ __ ] and I don't like you you're a [ __ ] you probably do that for everybody see um you guys have just completely failed 100% to grasp anything I was just saying it's actually quite impressive how how

Jakehow quickly the point just flies over your head but but what what I'm saying is that instead of uh doing whatever you were like whatever crawling you were just doing the idea is that you the idea

Jakeis that you walk in I will thank you the idea is that you walk in and you say and You observe the guy who he is and you sort of try and ascertain how you could bring value to his life and then maybe you have a few questions to ask him

Jakeabout what he does uh what his needs are how I can help you and then you can you can say whether or not that's something a duty you'd be willing to fulfill cuz you know what in marriage people have duties even the women that's true I agree with that I don't think that's

Aanawrong but I don't think that if you're going to be the big strong man that you're going to be I have to just ask you and figure it out you should tell me right we're trying to be so you would you would never ask you would never ask your dream man hey hey honey is there

Aanaanything I can do for you today can I today now that I'm with you yeah today but when you came up to me and you why was you sitting here like this okay that's not my that's not my dream man one but two here's what I need from you

JakeI need you to do this for me do this for me do this for me can you do that if my answer is anything other than yes then I'm done right yeah see the difference is though I can have if I was that guy

Jakeright you say I'm everybody's dream man and then I have a bunch of women walking into the room and then I'm going to tell them all I want you to do this this this this and this you know what they're all going to say okay yeah okay I'll do that

Jakeoh yeah that's me but if I have them come in sell themselves and somebody and someone comes in asks those question is really observant of of myself then it's going to set her apart because you know what it shows initiative and actually

Brian Atlasmen like women who have initiative I hear your point that's good all right we need to uh get into a couple things I did hear the term mansplain though why don't we

Brian Atlasinvestigate that a little bit uh what when you say man expain can you define that so we understand it when men explain stuff that we obviously understood but we were joking

Jakejoking about the explanation or I'm just confused well he was mansplaining a question he already asked that we already answered were you mansplaining at J no well if if mansplaining is based

Brian Atlason the fact that you already understood then you are sorely mistaken with your terms I kind of think mansplain is a bit of a sexist term you know it's kind of uh you know

Brian Atlasit's kind well I feel like women would be very upset if there was a term like she elaborating she elaborating and you're I dismiss whatever you're trying

Brian Atlasto tell me I simply dismiss it by saying oh well you're she elaborating don't want to hear it don't want to hear your she

Brian Atlaslaboration so I just think you know putting man before explain mansplaining I me know like for example

Brian Atlaswa wait hold on I have the perfect example let's change man let's change it to Black splaining is it racist is it racist say that you want me

Brian Atlasto explain a black term or what are we explaining hold on mind you this is a term I would never use but is that a racist term no you just made that [ __ ] up well let's

Rebel (Forever the Rebel)assume hold on how is it not the same because the black people aren't the oppressors what men are men are the oppressors so yeah y'all can take that little man plan yeah that little

Rebel (Forever the Rebel)discrimination cuz y'all I got something though right you we white we said Whit Spain we can say that oh you can say we can say wh Spain because they're the

Aanaoppressors listen I was talking to my man today wait we could say white though I was talking to my man today he was like here's the difference between a man and a woman speaking a man is thinking about how the other man is going to

Aanathink about it like he's thinking about all the men cuz they all think the same You can predict a guy the way they think but as a woman they're speaking for only themselves and in reality a man is already going to collectively make everything that you say about every

Brian Atlaswoman in a room you hear me or no so you're saying men make things generalized yes 100% versus women make

Aanathings their specificity or individual yes women I mean maybe every once in a while oh yeah like all women no I don't I I don't even have an example for that

Aanalike oh all women love when a man is strong no I like girls like what are you talking about have you ever said men men suck um what do they suck

Jakeon bro that was the actually [ __ ] answer ever what you'll actually find is that when you when women and men receive information men tend to compartmentalize

Aanainformation whereas women tend to take all of the information make it about that rub it all together like this and then make it about themselves exactly that's what I'm saying is that a woman is thinking about themselves and a man

Brian Atlasis thinking collectively as a man is one you thinks logically okay whereas women think emotionally whatever the word you want to use is they're thinking of them as a collective whereas a woman is stop

Brian Atlasthe prattle stop the prattle so I don't know so let's explore these terms a little bit so you said there's an oppressor oppress Dynamic is that your position between men and women that there's an oppressor oppress dynamic

Brian Atlasbetween men and women I didn't say that no I don't agree so that's just your position yeah but you don't think it's sexist to say and if it is what man's bling and if

Brian Atlasit is shut up hold on bro I can only talk to one person at a time so going back to this before I was so rudely interrupted you were talking today yeah I was talking to you and I was hoping to

Brian Atlashave a conversation with you she rudely interrupted both of us so so I'm just trying to better understand so do you don't think mansplaining is sexist no okay would the term black splaining be

Jakeuh racist you just made that [ __ ] up I don't care no but would it be what you like let's say you were telling definition Give me the definition whatever how about if you were if you were trying to explain for example the

Jakehistory of red lining to him and he goes oh why are you

Caliblacksplaining we the table over you guys just made this [ __ ] up I don't even care I mean we did make up the hypothetical yeah sure so is it racist

Brian Atlasno cuz you guys made that [ __ ] up but hold on I mean I let's assume we did make it up if you just take an analysis of the actual term black Spain which by

Brian Atlasthe way I think that's a racist term I would never like dismiss a if if a black person was explaining something to me I would never just dismiss their position oh okay that's blacksplaining so I think that's racist I think you should also think that's racist because I think that

Brian Atlaswould be deeply offensive to black people let me get upset with you I mean it well no I'm I'm not a proponent of the term I'm a I'm against the term you just made it up I mean you could

Jakeprobably Google this and people have probably used it before that's but whether I made it up yeah I mean doesn't matter at doesn't matter at all because what he's doing he's using an analogy right and he and he's and he's using black

Jakeplaining whether he made it up or not to see whether or not your logic is consistent and whether you're actually morally consistent of with your with your man's planing and with Black's planing if you think that's if you think between sexism and RAC I care about

Aanaeither me personally they are both one in the same yes you're correct yes man's planning could be sexist maybe you deserve to be sexualized a little bit because women have been going through it their whole life well no it's not

Brian Atlassexualizing but okay I haven't been sexualized at this table okay sexist making women women men men you meant sexist go ahead is it podcast of one person or

Elenawhat he hey hey hold on look because 40 minutes she speak if we don't speak you got on hold on look forget to ask us

Brian Atlasquestions hey hey first off there's a panel of uh 10 people here total I have you ever run a podcast have you ever run a podcast it's

Brian Atlasdiffic look people are going to have their time to speak we spent uh 5 10 minutes talking about your 100 dates you've gotten maybe the second I mean I wasn't here when Jake was here you've

Brian Atlasalready gotten a lot of attention you'll get a little bit more okay but like not your job as a guest in the panelist to

Brian Atlasdictate to me oh I have not I don't feel like I've been uh I've been given an adequate amount of time to to speak in the past 10 minutes what so can I

Brian Atlasexplain how about this if I want to talk to her for the next two hours and all of you have to shut the [ __ ] up for the next two hours I'm not going to do that because I'd love to hear from all of you

Brian Atlasbut if I was inclined to just talk to in fact I I deci side I just want to talk to Jake for the next two hours about [ __ ] Australia if I want to talk about Australia think that's wrong I'm

Brian Atlasgoing to [ __ ] do if we're going to talk about oppression the Australians are the most oppressed out of everyone [ __ ] so I'm going to try to involve

Brian Atlasother people here but she's made a comment I'm going to address it are you dissatisfied with the amount of tension you're currently receiving can explain

Elenasure go ahead it was not noticed to you it was more to her because you asked the question and she start uh talking talking talking talking it's like about we respect each other it's about that I

Jakeso you're asking me to shut the [ __ ] up can you please do us a favor turn around and tell her to shut the [ __ ] up yeah tell me Shut the [ __ ] up you have the whenever you want to speak to got that if you do we'll speak to you more

Jakethis is his house he is the main so he need control the situation A man in control of me you L of the I'm okay I'm all right I didn't say I was a submissive

Brian Atlasone I like I like you just got to hop in if you got something to say just say it just got to hop in there yeah that that's a good point Rebel if you got something to say um but look if somebody jumps in I'm going to try my best to try

Brian Atlasto bring everybody into the conversation but look it's the reality of a panel show like this some people are a bit more conversationally dominant they're going to have more input some people don't have input on the topic I don't

Brian Atlasdon't think everybody's going to get an equal amount of time here but I'm going to try my best to try to get everybody in it and we that's why we have the questionnaire which we're going to get into soon that'll give everybody an

Brian Atlasopportunity some other questions so yeah um let's try to wrap up let's try to wrap up though on the conversation that was being had so what was your thing and then oh no I'm done I

Rebel (Forever the Rebel)don't even remember at this point tell me about man's playing rac's all I said was that they're one in the same yes one is SE wa wait okay let me hear Let me hear your take let me hear man planning

Avais not sexist that's just the end of the take no men recognize that they can man expain I've seen yeah they're like oh I'm speaking logically I'm speaking logically speaking logically has the same Arrow but how about this so do you

Brian Atlasguys think like but it's not just a man explaining something it's like there's another component of it the man is explaining it how in a negative what like no not even condescending he's just

Brian Atlassaying it as how every man would thing well then we should startop saying complaining so so womaning I like that women complaining

Brian AtlasI'm complaining right now but so I guess my my qual with it is like you're attaching so you're making it into a negative thing like oh

Aanamansplaining is a Nega yes it's only looking at one view thing it's only looking at one view so if you said that's the same thing as that's only looking at one view only looking at the view of a manew which view if I say

Brian Atlasyou're mansplaining you're only looking at it from the view of a man let me ask you a question 2 + 2 equal 4 is that mansplaining no but what if you disagree and I'm like why would you disagree now you're just stupid that's this is this

Aanahere's the difference yes you're stupid but are you woman stupid if you dise no listen are you woman when a man expains when a when a man is man I thought you

Aanagoing for when a man is mansplaining he's only talking about what men think he's not thinking about what a woman would think you are woman explaining to

Aaname right now sure sure because I'm thinking about how the the men in the room aren't thinking from my perspective they're only think from their I'm thinking about how the women are

Aanathinking about how the men are thinking and this is some like Inception woman plaining okay so we both do it I W I womain right or W woms complain woman

Brian Atlasand you and you mansplain it's fine is there a problem to get offended by it seems like naging okay I'm woman naging I'm woman naging and I'm also wait that doesn't need to be

Brian Atlasgendered that's just what y'all do to begin with woman nag and we don't need to specify that's just like exactly that's kind of your thing yeah and then when when the guys are taking on the

Rebel (Forever the Rebel)approach of a woman then we can make it the mansplaining thing I think the problem trying to explain problem men are thirsty for a way to be the victim I think that's what it is thirsty to be the way the victim or thirsty to be

Rebel (Forever the Rebel)right right you well men are more oppressed than women but hold wait wa wait hold up hold up bro yo Rebel hear me out Rebel hear me out men are more

Brian Atlasoppressed so you said you said you said check it out Rebel you said that uh there's the oppression Dynamics when it came to the black Spain black splaining

Brian Atlasthing like white versus black oppressor okay but so in this thing my position is men are more oppressed than women so then I'm right to say that

Brian Atlasmansplaining you women as the oppressor class you guys are sexist by using the term mansplaining okay you're just saying that that's not facts it's know it's facts that that's facts that's facts that's not facts that's facts

Rebel (Forever the Rebel)right facts that's fact fact I'm definitely being sexist when I say that your you are very sexist by the way good and what do you mean exactly by like maybe looking for a reason to complain sometimes but don't you think that the

Jakethe the dominant societal narrative at the moment is that there is a patriarchy and that women get paid less and that women have been historically oppressed and they haven't had the right to vote and all these sort of things don't you think they're kind of thirsty for

Jakeoppression no how are we thirsty for something we have already what but but but we would argue that men are actually more oppressed in society and we can actually we can demonstrate that this doesn't sound very emotionally

Jakeintelligent very what sounds like we're hurting your feelings we could go disadvantage I want to hear your point of how exactly how exactly are my feelings hurt please let let me know you

Jakejust called us sex wait wait wait hold on hold on stop the question was to her go ahead because then it turned into black plaining and we've been talking about man's planing for so why don't you get back to your claim that you just made you said that you feel as though uh

AanaI'm not very emotionally I'm not very emotionally intelligent I was kidding okay okay and back to wait but what was your answer you were speaking you were telling us something I was but then I was rudely interrupted you were saying by this by this comment over here by

Jakethis woman nagger I was I was I woman niggled in my ear you were woman niggled please explain what you were saying anyways where were we before I don't know what we was talking about at this point so we

Jakewere saying I was saying that I think that we can actually back up if we wanted to have the conversation that there are actually more factors of Oppression for men in society than women however the dominant societal narr

Jakenarrative is of female impression oppression so if that's the case doesn't it seem like women are the ones who are trying to act like victims we can't act like something we've been how how have

Jakeyou been a victim a victim I'm not a victim me not your victim but the things that you just said so you're not a victim I'm not a victim of what speaking to your microphone I'm not a victim of what so you don't think you're vitim woman no I think the fact so you guys

Rebel (Forever the Rebel)disagree you you think you are a victim what do we I think women are General are more impressed than men that's the point in what sense I think the fact that we can't go out for a walk at night oh wait

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