Brian GOES OFF! Man vs. Bear HEATED DEBATE?! She's Single BUT STILL Sees Her Ex?! | Dating Talk #157
Date: 2024-05-01
Duration: 7h 03m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Natalie(guest)
SPEAKER_03Jordan(guest)
SPEAKER_04Adeline Star(guest)
SPEAKER_05Ashley(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_09Q / Natalie(guest)
SPEAKER_11Jordan / Jade(guest)
SPEAKER_12Rahima(guest)
SPEAKER_14Lauren(guest)
Key Moments
00:00:20
QuoteBrian Atlas opens show with standard intro
“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape”
00:03:28
OtherAdeline Star intro — kick streamer and OnlyFans model from LA
“hi I'm Adeline star I am 26 I live in LA originally from Texas I am a kick streamer and only fans model”
00:05:05
OtherLauren introduces herself as a courtesan at the Moonlight Bunny Ranch
“my name is Lauren I'm 31 years old and I am a cortisen at the moonlight bunny ranch and a student”
00:06:01
OtherQ / The Quill introduces herself — behavioral scientist and relationship coach from Raleigh NC
“I'm the Quill I'm 31 from Raleigh North Carolina I'm a behavioral scientist certified relationship coach and a YouTuber book author”
00:21:00
OtherAshley reveals she still sees her ex the morning of the show
“in person yesterday uh yeah yesterday this morning”
00:21:07
OtherAshley confirms ex was cheating during their relationship (not just the break)
“he was doing but was but hold on but was it was it open on his end no it was not open okay so he was cheating on you”
01:07:11
ControversyMan vs. Bear debate introduced — would you rather come across a bear or a man in the woods?
“you're alone in the woods would you rather come across a bear or a man you don't know”
01:07:33
OtherAdeline chose 'man' in man vs. bear debate
“know because he might have tools to help and if he's a terrible person then I'll take him out”
01:07:46
OtherRahima chose 'sunbear' (bear) in man vs. bear debate
“assume it's a sunbear and they are very cute so I'm going to choose the bear”
01:11:31
ControversyQ argues bear is statistically more dangerous than a random man in the woods
“the bear is absolutely has a larger probability of hurting you than a man does in the woods and it's that simple”
02:03:41
ControversyBrian rants about no-show guest who sent fake car crash photo — clear skies in Santa Barbara
“she sends us this photo oh my I got into a car crash... you notice the sky you see how overcast it is... it was clear skies all day”
02:05:43
ControversyBrian goes off about weekly guest lies — fake excuses instead of just cancelling
“oh my car broke down some I'm sick blah blah blah it's all lies they always lie they can't just say I'm a piece of I'm just not coming”
02:07:11
QuoteBrian quips that men start podcasts as therapy (vs. women going to actual therapy)
“yeah you know what male therapy is like women go to therapy Men start podcast yeah true”
02:36:18
ControversySelf-ratings round begins — Stiffler's question asks panel to rate looks 1-10
“ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 starting with you go ahead”
02:36:28
OtherRahima rates herself a 10
“10 10 I wasn't feeling my scarf but it's good”
02:36:44
OtherAshley rates herself a 7
“I I hate this question but yeah like a seven”
02:36:56
OtherBrian rates himself a 5 for looks
“I give myself a five”
02:39:37
OtherQ argues beauty standards are objective and cross-culturally consistent (Margot Robbie vs. Leslie Jones tweet)
“beauty is objective there's a consensus about what people will consider attractive and it's based on culturally”
02:41:50
OtherAdeline says she agrees everyone should consider themselves a 10 for self-confidence
“I agree because if you look good and you feel good that's what matters and then you're bringing that positivity into the world”
03:56:40
OtherBrian states he would not take a bullet for a girlfriend or wife
“I would not be willing in that scenario to take a bullet for her”
04:06:40
ControversyBrian argues the 'bloodline' framing — dying for a woman is worse for his dynasty than surviving
“would it be more masculine and more Alpha to secure your bloodline and go on and survive and have the other person take the bullet”
04:18:10
OtherQ challenges Brian: if cheating 'doesn't mean anything' to men, why should they care?
“the only reason men shouldn't cheat is because women will interpret it wrong”
04:36:03
ControversyForrest Gump analysis — Brian calls it a catastrophe for men: Jenny rejected Forrest, got AIDS, had a kid, came back when he was rich
“she rejects forced Gump he gets rich off of shrimp she gets AIDS and has a kid and then once he's Rich of course then she her even though she rejected him”
Topics Discussed
00:00:20
Intro and guest introductions
Brian opens with announcements. Guests introduce themselves: Adeline Star (kick streamer/OF), Rahima (social media manager), Jordan (gym co-owner, married), Jade Warrick (film producer, Wales), Lauren (Bunny Ranch courtesan), Ashley (real estate), Natalie (political content creator), Q/The Quill (behavioral scientist). Includes Welsh language demonstration from Jade.
00:12:40
Relationship status round
Each guest shares current relationship status and longest relationship. Ashley's situation stands out: single 1 year but saw her ex (chiropractor, 31) the morning of the show. Ex cheated during a mutual break; she still loves him; he wants to reconcile. Jordan is married (5 years). Jade met boyfriend when he was on a date with someone else. Lauren (Bunny Ranch) is single; longest relationship 3 years. Rahima broke up during COVID in Bali.
01:07:11
Man vs. Bear debate
Viral TikTok hypothetical: would you rather be alone in the woods with a man or a bear? Most panel chose 'bear' or deferred. Q and Jordan chose 'man'. Ashley, Lauren, and Rahima chose 'bear'. Brian argues women's preference for bear is social signaling about male distrust. Q counters that bears are statistically more dangerous. Title topic for the show.
01:36:00
Cheating discussion: male vs. female
Which is worse — male or female cheating? Panel and Q debate consequences vs. morality. Q argues female cheating is worse in terms of outcomes (women cheat emotionally, usually end the relationship; men cheat physically, relationship often survives). Lauren argues both are equally wrong. Q explains men's cheating motivation: greedy/novelty-seeking, not emotional dissatisfaction. Extended argument about why men shouldn't cheat if it doesn't mean anything.
01:58:23
Happy wife happy life / 40-50 year marriages
Q asks panel if they subscribe to 'happy wife happy life.' Panel mostly prefers 'balance' or 'happy spouse happy house.' Brian suggests the better phrasing. Q explains women experience more negative emotions in relationships and are more likely to end them, hence the focus on wife's happiness. Discussion extends to whether 40-50 year marriages are a thing of the past — panel says rare but possible; Brian cites feminism, dating apps, and entitlement as factors.
02:03:41
Brian rants about no-show guests
Brian reveals three guests no-showed for this episode. Shows a photo sent by one no-show claiming a car crash — but the photo shows overcast skies while it was a clear day in Santa Barbara. Brian 'goes off' about guests lying with fake excuses weekly (car crashes, family emergencies, traffic). The 'Brian GOES OFF' segment from the title.
02:11:40
What do you bring to a relationship + self-improvement flaws
Brian asks: what three things do you bring to a relationship? Each guest answers. Then: what's one thing you've done wrong in relationships and are working to improve? Highlights: Jade working on jealousy (boyfriend has poly background), Jordan working on not assuming during arguments, Rahima working on not trying to change partners, Ashley working on OCD/cleanliness triggers, Q wishes women understood male behavior differently.
02:23:20
Power couple discussion and Forrest Gump tangent
Brian reads Wikipedia definition of 'super couple / power couple.' Discussion includes what counts as a power couple. Brian goes on a Forrest Gump tangent: argues Jenny rejected Forrest, got AIDS, had a kid, then came back to Forrest after he got rich — 'a love story for women and an absolute catastrophe for men.'
02:36:18
Self-ratings round (looks)
Brian asks everyone to rate their looks 1-10. Self-ratings: Rahima 10, Adeline 10, Jordan ~9, Lauren ~8.5, Jade ~7, Ashley 7, Q 6 (Brian pushed her up: 'you're more than a 6'), Natalie (not clearly captured), Brian 5. Extended discussion on whether rating yourself a 10 is delusional vs. empowering. Q argues beauty is objective and cross-culturally consistent.
02:36:36
Bumble swipe study
Brian pulls up Bumble and gives each guest 10 swipes on male profiles to observe selectivity. Panel judges based on first photo only. Discussion of what makes men swipeable, consistency of female standards across cultures, Francisco Lachowski (male model) vs. Luis Guzman comparison as masculine vs. conventionally attractive example.
03:05:00
Attraction peak age / when do women peak in looks
Q asks at what age women peak in attractiveness. Answers: Adeline and Jordan say 25-35; Jade says 25 based on genetics; Lauren and Q say around 35; Ashley says mid-to-late 20s; Brian agrees. Brian asks if each guest would fast-forward their looks 10 years with no health impact — Rahima says yes.
03:53:20
Should a man take a bullet for a woman?
Brian states he would not take a bullet for a girlfriend or wife. Panel debates chivalry, nobility, the bloodline argument (Brian), and sacrifice as the ultimate act of love. Discussion includes trolley problem variant, Genghis Khan dynastic framing, pro-choice vs. pro-life tangent, and whether women's expectation of sacrifice is hypocritical given their own choices. Brian rants about the argument being his 'magic bullet' topic that generates debate with anyone.
Transcript
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01:52:51
Rahimadate the person for who they are and see them for their flaws and good things and just know what they are and just not try to change them very valid so sorry was the question what do we want to improve on or what's something we've done wrong
01:53:03
Nataliewhat's something that you've learned from your past relationships that you have done wrong and can improve on or like improved on um I can say one thing that I'm working
01:53:15
Jordanon right now is patience definitely patience um um not like jumping to
01:53:26
Jordanconclusions for sure during arguments or during arguments yeah like automatically assuming that you know for example like I mean I can talk about you know my marriage like i' something that I've
01:53:38
Jordandefinitely had to work on for sure is like um like if we're arguing like I'll uh I'll assume that he's thinking a certain way but he hasn't expressed that
01:53:49
Jordanyet so like just being able to like allow him to communicate what he's feeling without assuming that I know everything this
01:54:02
Jordan / Jadeself-awareness um somewhat similar but more in the line of the jealousy aspect of doing a lot of self-work to be like just if he looks at another woman not to
01:54:12
Jordan / Jadebe like I'm jealous of her like I wish I was like her and envious um just more of like okay he's looking just leave it don't start [ __ ] just do you think like the way that you met your current
01:54:24
Jordan / Jadeboyfriend kind of plays into that the definitely I think that has been such a huge like learning curve and it's really um sort of catapulted me through that so
01:54:35
Jordan / Jadehaving someone who has done that and being aware that it is in their nature has really made me face that that's good [ __ ] as well cuz a lot of women struggle with that the fact that you know how to
01:54:46
Q / Natalieintercept your negative feelings especially of jealousy and not create drama over just that feeling that's very very good like the emotional maturity is is I think that's something I've had to
01:54:58
Jordanwork on too because majority of my husband's clients are women so he has to get very up close and personal with them you know sometimes it get you know he has to physically touch them or whatever
01:55:08
Jordanand like so I think that's something that I definitely struggled with um more so in the beginning the jealousy too um I think a lot of women are like that but
01:55:18
Jordanit definitely takes a huge amount of strength to um um have that self-awareness for sure and strive to work on it I think a lot of women can
01:55:29
Jordanhave very jealous Tendencies but we don't aim to improve them but I think that's one thing that I've always aimed to improve as well because it doesn't it doesn't reflect that I'm not valuable to
01:55:41
Jordanmy husband it reflects that he's a man in nature and he loves me and he's proved that he loved me hence why he married me yeah but does he when you say like not getting jealous if he looks at
01:55:53
Laurenother women is do you mean like he's fine with looking at other women or like do you know what I mean like oh he's looking and he's like what I'm just looking or is it like oh he's like trying to kind of avert his eyes kind of
01:56:06
Jordan / Jadething do you know what I mean like embracing it versus like the temptation's there but trying to reject it do you know what I mean um I'm not sure what his intention is in that moment but for me it's at any point if he's looking at someone else like a
01:56:18
Q / Nataliewoman walks into the room and you know she's wearing a really pretty dress just going to be calm does that include just like glancing like a quick like like glance at her or you mean like different
01:56:30
Jordanthere's different kinds of looks right there's like the look and then there's like the Double Take and then the like looking up and down and have you have you seen the meme with the guy and the woman he has his arm around her and
01:56:41
Jordan / Jadewoman he's like like like that or um well just anything okay any look it's like and then we'll just assess it and if I really think it's a problem like just to bring it up in a stoic manner um
01:56:53
Laurenis what I'm working towards okay yeah okay what about you I think uh like earlier with the bear and the the man I think that I have a lot I wouldn't say a lot of biases but I've I've worked on a
01:57:05
Laurenlot of biases that I've had in the past and that's why I'm like you know I've worked on a lot of that but I think that seems to be the struggle is I'd had a lot of fears and things and um yeah I don't want to really live yeah I don't
01:57:19
Brian Atlasreally want to live with that fear anymore and be seen like that so I'm just trying to are we still on the same the same question here yeah I'm sorry no offense
01:57:34
Brian AtlasMadison they're talking about the faults in relationship our faults in relationships so what are we trying to improve yeah I'm G to I actually want to ask the audience audience do we continue on with this question or do we move it along to
01:57:46
Brian Atlassomething else Nick could you show me the chat please is it a boring question or something I'm just like back there and I'm like just I need to dealing with some [ __ ] behind the scenes and then I'm
01:57:57
Brian Atlasjust like seeing the viewership just go [ __ ] crashing down with no offense guys well it's I want to at least put on something interesting for the show and if it's like no offense it's kind of
01:58:10
Jordanlike well where's the makeup wipe can I take off my makeup has anyone done that I did that last time oh you did okay I sure did I have wipes you do I do she has my all
01:58:23
Q / Natalieright well let's do this let's do this um this question yeah do you Ladi subscribe to the idea of happy wife happy life no yes the
01:58:34
TTSstory that guy slingshot donated $200 I've asked this question before but do think that dating has become over complicated compared out
01:58:45
TTSgrandparents also our 40 and 50e marriage is a thing of the past how do we get back to that that's a good question a beautiful question compromise you want us to go down the
01:58:59
Brian Atlasline and answer um also 40 50 year old uh I mean I don't what is the question is dating more complicated now than it was yeah we can only guys we can
01:59:11
Brian Atlasonly do uh one question per chat you asked three so I guess we'll have to do uh are 40 and 50 year marriages a thing of the
01:59:19
Adeline Starpast I think it's a lot harder to make that a reality now than it was back then okay I think the reason why the marriages were so long was because it
01:59:31
Rahimawas harder to get divorced back then but I think they're still realistic definitely a lot more rare but very much possible I agree with that um
01:59:43
Jordan / Jadeand also I was raised by my grandparents and they grew up in like World War II and they were married their whole lives and that is the relationship that I want and I am a little bit jaded and I am
01:59:53
Ashleyconcerned that it is a thing of the past I don't think it's a thing of the past but um I think with less technology it's probably better um I think that yeah it's a
02:00:05
Ashleylittle bit more difficult to hit 40s and 50 year marriages just because there's so much so much social media and like comparison and all of that the
02:00:15
LaurenTemptation is exactly temptation's a lot greater comparison and you always just like want the best of the best yeah that's probably true and people are getting married later in life too but
02:00:28
Laurenthey'll still exist but they probably it probably the percentage will go down I imagine you you want to answer it too did you answer no I'm saying you
02:00:41
Q / Nataliewant me to answer you can no you can answer oh okay I mean yeah it's more complicated than it was back then I think um feminism played a huge part in that um women don't need men like they
02:00:52
Q / Natalieused to they aren't as dutiful as they once were in marriages and they can prioritize making their own money and living their own life whereas it's not
02:01:01
Q / Nataliethe same degree of um stress or you know uh value marriage marriage uh relationship values that were once instilled in the older Generations you
02:01:12
Q / Natalieknow they stressed get married um find love that's not taught to kids nowadays most kids college students say that their parents don't pressure them to get married married and so they feel no pressure to get
02:01:25
Brian Atlasmarried all right I'll get to it in just a sec uh I mean as far as the 40 50 year marriages they're still certainly possible uh but I think it's going to be a lot harder
02:01:37
Brian Atlasyou have a global sexual Marketplace you have dating apps you have social media you have uh people are much more
02:01:46
Brian Atlasentitled uh it's not a good uh social landscap landscape it's not a good dating landscape right now so uh also just don't get married I'm not in favor
02:01:57
Brian Atlasof getting married so that works too yeah um also just want to clarify one thing mti's question was actually a good question perhaps my frustration was a bit misdirected no
02:02:09
Q / Natalieoffense to you guys your answers were actually phenomenal wait were they yeah they were what were just really in depth they was they I mean I it it makes sense though because they're in relationship
02:02:20
Brian Atlasso so they have good Minds Matt Matty's question was good I just sitting back there and I was like they had really good answers though sound in like a therapy session a little bit definitely
02:02:33
Brian Atlasbut in like a good way anyways good question Maddie he was good at it she you good sport what you're good what's that okay good the therapy oh also I forgot to mention this during the show
02:02:43
Brian Atlasguys we had um we had three no shows today super frustrating kind of scuffed that's why we're a little late really quick on this actually and guys I usually don't talk about it I just sometimes I talk about it usually don't
02:02:56
TTStalk about it though Nick could you pull up that photo so this is from a noow from our Sunday show okay hold on that guy slingshot donated
02:03:06
TTS$200 sorry there's only 200 characters to work with LOL I didn't realize it was hard to read until I sent it uh no you're fine man I appreciate
02:03:18
Brian Atlasyour uh ttss thank you dude it's just uh you know just to be considera of the other people who send in messages to the panelists to the other questions we have we uh we do limit the question asked to
02:03:30
Brian Atlasjust one question we can't just you know you can't just slam four questions in there and uh we can't ask them all but thank you man really appreciate it and uh yeah man uh so pull that up again so
02:03:41
Brian Atlasthis is a girl sent this at mind you we ask the people to arrive at 400 p.m. uh she I messaged her at 4:30 she's already 30 minutes late I'm like hey
02:03:52
Brian Atlaschecking in are you coming this for this is for Sunday she sends us this photo oh my I got into a car crash now this is this is here locally in Santa Barbara
02:04:02
Brian Atlasthis shot um it's uh this is Oldtown uh this is this is Oldtown galita
02:04:10
Brian Atlashere now you notice the sky you see how overcast it is you see those clouds I don't know if you guys remember the
02:04:19
Brian Atlasstream on Sunday it was clear skies all [ __ ] day detective clear skies and I I uh don't live too far I mean I'm probably 5 minutes from here um the
02:04:31
Brian Atlasother panelists could you know Q You Were Here on in Santa Barbara clear sky it was a sunny clear sky day so she sends me this and it's like I I deal with these kind of Lies every [ __ ]
02:04:43
Brian Atlasweek every show oh my car broke down some [ __ ] I'm sick blah blah blah it's all lies they always lie they can't just say I'm a piece of [ __ ] I'm just not coming I would appreciate that more
02:04:54
Brian Atlasthan them oh here's a fake excuse so I'm do and so today we had three no shows some girl I was on the phone with her on the balcony call her at 4:30 hey you still coming blah blah blah she's like
02:05:06
Brian Atlasand you can you guys I think you two overheard the phone call I had her on speaker right sorry what' she say she said that she was she was sitting in traffic and she was 20
02:05:17
Brian Atlasminutes away 20 minutes away yeah no show I don't even think this chick is in Santa Barbara no they're just straight up Liars dealing with this [ __ ] every
02:05:26
Brian Atlasweek it's just annoying um it gets on my nerves maybe I shouldn't take it so personally but yeah we're just dealing with [ __ ] like that uh but yeah it's
02:05:36
Brian AtlasCRA I called that girl out I was like yo we live in Santa Barbara too it was not overcast that day how are you going to send me a picture you might as
02:05:48
Brian Atlaswell have sent me a picture of that car in New York it was not not overcast that day you [ __ ] liar that's a photo from like 3 days ago 10 days ago it's not even probably not even her car [ __ ]
02:05:58
Adeline Starscumbag anyways okay just remember it's a reflection of them and it has nothing to do with you it's their own self and their own inability yeah you're right it
02:06:08
Brian Atlasis a reflection of them being [ __ ] scumbags [ __ ] pieces of [ __ ] um so uh damn go off King sorry yeah it is what
02:06:19
Adeline Starit is like I am so sorry not not it's just to me it's just amusing because it's like how are you going to send me a photo like at least you know send me a
02:06:29
Adeline Starphoto look there was effort at least she like Googled it or something like a wrecked car in Santa Barbara send that looks good yeah it's probably what she did it's just it's we it's weird though
02:06:41
Brian Atlasw a car bro but like you think she wrecked it and I it's real I know this is a dating podcast right people are going to pull the same [ __ ] to you when you're dating
02:06:52
Brian Atlasoh an hour before the date oh uh I'm sorry my car broke down now of course like most most people are just going to like move on right but I'm going be like
02:07:04
Brian Atlasnot not for a dating perspective but for like the podcast I'm going be like if somebody is like oh my car broke down I'm going to be like prove that [ __ ] cuz they're all liars they're all lies there's way too many cars bro I
02:07:16
Brian Atlasdon't know the the the economy for mechanics in the LA Cal like Santa Barb area is [ __ ] crazy or something all these girls cars are conveniently breaking down before the and there's all
02:07:28
Brian Atlasthese family Emergen these vague family emergencies oh oh yeah I think a family emergency what is it oh that's private I can't tell you can't tell you what the
02:07:39
Brian Atlasfamily emergency is it's all [ __ ] they're going to go out oh I'm sick you look at their Instagram story later they're at the [ __ ] club the bar at a party it's all Savages people are [ __ ] Joe Bro I'd rather some say
02:07:51
Brian Atlasyou're a I'd rather someone tell me Brian you're a [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] I hate your podcast I'm not coming tell me that [ __ ] instead of my car broke down do they have Watkins that come in here like is there a sign ever that you guys
02:08:04
Laurenput on the door you're like Watkins welcome this is a podcast come in cuz I saw that and I was going through something I'd be like you know what this is my day CR to Big credit to Madison and Nick
02:08:15
Brian Atlasbecause uh luckily we're in a area where we can just they can go down to the Mean Streets of Sant Barbara and just go up to people be like hey you want to come on the podcast even yeah even yeah that and like a sign on the wall like some
02:08:28
Laurenpeople take things so like whoa like this is for me like I know I do that all all the time so I'm sure somebody else does too I do with all the time funny though because girls come on the podcast and I
02:08:40
Brian Atlastell them like you know my stance is on dating and they're like who hurt you Brian do you have trust issues I'm like these these women who we scheduled to come Bey on the podcast literally lie to
02:08:51
Brian Atlasmy face every twice a week every single [ __ ] week of course I have [ __ ] trust issues Brian we showed up for you no and I give you showed up for every
02:09:03
Brian Atlassing every single person who shows up I applaud that and I know more you know typically more often than not the people we have scheduled do show up I will say though the amount of people like it's it
02:09:15
Brian Atlascan be a bit grading can be a bit grading and I feel for the men who are out there in the dating game because when it comes to dating apps and [ __ ] and we're actually about to react to something related to Bumble cuz Bumble made the
02:09:27
Brian Atlasnews you're going to be dealing with this kind of [ __ ] too when you're dating last minute flake Friday you could here's the crazy thing right and I don't know if you guys have experienced this as girls I'd love to hear you could do
02:09:39
Brian Atlaseverything right as a guy all the things that women tell you to do to be to don't be the guy who texts you at on a Friday or Saturday at 11:00 p.m. what you doing
02:09:49
Brian Atlasno be the guy who sets up a date days in advance I want to this time I'll pick you up 5:00 p.m. 6:00 p.m. 7:00 p.m. I'll pick you up you have the date planned
02:10:01
Brian Atlasyou're going to pay for the date you made the reservation you do all the right things that they tell you to do and then 30 minutes before you're supposed to pick her up she's going to
02:10:10
Backgroundcancel oh my I got a headache I got to walk my goldish got to walk my goldfish walk my goldfish my pet honey badger I've had some ridiculous excuses
02:10:22
Laurenbro you know who deals with more excuses personal trainers I've been you know when people skip the gym I've been stood up for several dates in my life like several that I could count I'd say like at least
02:10:35
Brian Atlas11 never happened me well I think it's harder for men to get dates so they're probably much more reluctant to cancel on the date whereas like if if you cancel on a date with a
02:10:46
Brian Atlasguy if you wanted to go on another date that night you could probably arrange that like on a Friday or Satur even a prime night like Friday or Saturday night any girl hop on a dating app oh I want to do another date boom you got it
02:11:00
Brian Atlasmost guys though like if a guy you match with a guy on a dating app 400 p.m. on a Friday bro you ain't going on a date with him that night most likely most
02:11:12
Brian Atlaslikely he's going to have to plan that [ __ ] in advance so most men aren't going to flake like
02:11:20
Laurenthat there I had a guy flake on me at the Cheesecake Factory say it again flake on me at the Cheesecake Factory I people flake though because I use those fact Good Times all the time mhm just not in
02:11:32
Q / Nataliethis context okay all right we want to go back to my question yeah absolutely you let it all out yeah he got it out I got I needed a I need a
02:11:42
Q / Natalielittle uh what it moment little vent session that's what male therapy is like women go to therapy Men start podcast yeah true go go
02:11:52
Q / Natalieahead okay so as I as I asked um is happy wife happy life a thing do you agree with happy wife happy life going around the table I believe there needs
02:12:02
Adeline Starto be balance oo okay so it's a give and take that's my belief okay yeah yes I think it's the thing why cuz I know like
02:12:14
Rahimain my last relationship when I was upset it threw him off but when we were like chilling it was great so he and he was doing well and at work too so he never felt any type of negative emotions or
02:12:26
Rahimaanything oh no he knew like when I was like going crazy and then he'd be like can you like relax and then he would like he knew what things I needed to like chill if I was like stressed out or whatever so I think for him and like his
02:12:37
Q / Nataliework was like affected by it so so had he not done that you wouldn't have left him earlier what but like like I'm saying if he didn't tend to you emotionally I think though I picked a
02:12:50
Rahimapartner who knew what I wanted emotionally but also like you know things happen it might be that time of the month it might be a little erratic things might be going on like at work and he just knew okay I need to make her
02:13:02
Q / Nataliehappy because if she's angry then I'm not going to sleep so you believe a woman's feeling should be the focal point of the relationship no but he definitely was happier when I was
02:13:09
Jordanhappier okay okay what about you um there needs to be balance I don't believe in the happy wife happy life thing I think you should both be making
02:13:21
Jordan / Jadeeach other happy constantly okay um yeah there's a thing called destination happiness that I'm sure you're aware of and for some women like doesn't matter what you do for them it's never going to be enough it's like no I'm going to be happy if I get this
02:13:33
Jordan / Jadecar or this handbag and there's always something else I think if you try and do that with a woman like that who has destination happiness it's never going to work out but then there are some women who are just content and those are
02:13:46
Q / Nataliethe ones that you probably could have that with so you don't believe in happy wife happy life depends on the woman okay okay what about you I I guess I believe
02:13:56
Laurenin the wife should be happy he should want to see her smile like you know and I I think that should happen but she shouldn't want to see him uh you know
02:14:06
Ashleyunhappy at her SM you know disposition so I I do agree that um with what you guys said I I think there needs to be a balance yeah I agree with the balance
02:14:17
Ashleysituation he shouldn't be struggling to keep you happy M yeah mhm you said that perfectly um yeah I don't like the phrasing cuz kind of like the way you said it makes it sound like the focal
02:14:29
Laurenpoint is the woman's happiness and that's all that matters and it almost sounds like happy wife happy life yeah and like if she's not if she's not happy then no one's happy and it just kind of sounds aggressive I think yeah both
02:14:40
Laurenpeople should be striving to serve each other and think about each other's needs and what would make the other person happy okay well the reason I asked that is because women experience a lot more negative emotion in relationships and
02:14:52
Q / Nataliethey're much more likely to end a relationship due to the negative emotions that they feel so that's why I said it sure the women's feelings be the focal point of the relationship because as a guy we're not as erratic or
02:15:04
Q / Natalieimpulsive or neurotic as women typically are so a lot of [ __ ] rolls off our back we let a lot of [ __ ] slide we don't need y'all to go above and beyond to please us so we can suck a lot of [ __ ] up which speaks to her point about he was happy
02:15:16
Q / Nataliewhen I was happy because his base state of happiness is I'm chilling ain't nothing wrong so that's why I that's I asked that but Brian this panel is really this might be the best panel of
02:15:25
Brian Atlasof women in a relationship they give the best it's a good good panel um what do you think about I think the better saying is and I
02:15:36
Brian Atlasdon't know if you we're leading into this happy spouse happy house yeah that's a good one yeah cuz I think the other one is a bit too one directional
02:15:47
Brian Atlasknow both people should be trying to make the other happy so what's the what would it be for happy husband half
02:15:55
Ashleyhappy happy both there's a reason Rhymes happy hband happy home happy happy home or something does anything rhyme with
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Brian Atlashappy happy happy home Happy husband Happy bu husband HBY dust dust dust
02:16:14
Brian Atlashappy husband that's and dust pan we we have the Joshua Kims uh let's actually have uh Adeline yes can I have you start I'm going to have you read some of the
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Adeline Starchats go ahead sweetie you are beautiful he messed up you are worth more as a Christian I see your pain but God wants more for you true sweet beautiful thank
02:16:37
Brian Atlasyou Joshua Kim sorry that it took us a while to get to it uh we we um do prioritize the streamlabs one but um she got your message loud and clear thank you Joshua man appreciate your Super
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Brian AtlasChat and then we have uh let's see here we have one coming through streamlabs oh David trec trec Brian don't melt punctuality is your Kryptonite Like Me
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Brian AtlasMaddie read my comment read my comment correct views will grow penel lied they would be a mistress to their favorites CB LOL British accent from corner question mark it is a British accent yes
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Jordan / Jadeisn't a Welsh is it a Welsh um accent or it's the same British is kind of a group you know there a group of Brits yeah from everywhere yeah [ __ ] it of course
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Brian Atlasof course that was cute there you go uh thank you uh David I'm is it's trec trec okay and then we have av24 hey
02:17:33
Brian Atlasthank you man for the message table roundabout what are three things you bring to a relationship follow-up question do you think guys think those things are
02:17:43
Brian Atlasimportant I think it's that's either pretty much a yes or no so I I'll that's fine uh three things you bring to relationship do you think guys think
02:17:53
Adeline Starthose things are important go ahead I I'm supportive I'm loving and I am
02:18:00
Brian Atlasaccepting okay I'm wondering though just aren't those sort of like the default things you should anyone should
02:18:12
Brian Atlasbring to a relationship I think he's perhaps asking like assets or skills like for example if someone were to asks three things you bring to a relationship and you were to
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Jordanrespond to loyalty love like like those are kind of like it's kind of and okay conversation you know like I I think those are important those are
02:18:37
Adeline Starimportant because not everyone's going to be accepting of you or accepting of your past or they might hold it against you or they might throw things in your face so for me it's like I take you as you are okay and that's where my level
02:18:49
Adeline Starthat's what acceptance means to me and so it's that's that's why oh you bring acceptance that's cute okay all right
02:18:57
Rahimawhat about you cute um unpredictability no TR I mean
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Brian Atlasa hey she's honest that's the next thing honesty un hold on UNP un okay what else um nurturing and then I am a cheerleader
02:19:15
Rahimaokay so do you think I was going to use that one do you think guys think those things are are important um well my ex said he Lov crazy girls so I started that oh my God [Music]
02:19:27
Rahimawhat he never knew what he was going to get that's why I never cheated cuz I was a different person every single day H I'm
02:19:36
Rahimajust uh so when you're unpredictable what does that mean I just I always want to do different things I always want to like go for different things be
02:19:47
Rahimadifferent places and so yeah that's what I guess everyone who's ever dated me has are you crazy probably okay have you ever slashed a guy's tires no not that
02:19:58
Rahimacrazy burned clothes no that's gotten Revenge no no gotten him fired from his job no I don't really care about that that's like vindictive yeah I'm more like implosive rather than explosive are
02:20:11
Rahimayou do you get into arguments frequently with your partners I like to debate but not arguments just anything like like I want to understand the facts
02:20:22
Rahimabehind your opinion on a statement but not so much an argument like it's not going to be like I'm this is my side and that's your side but I will poke the bear you'll poke the bear yeah sunbear
02:20:33
Brian Atlassun bear obviously wow okay and then your cheerleader can you show us a chair like in your seat god
02:20:44
Rahimaum ra i the sun no like more so like whatever go oh okay not literally be a cheerleader yeah be a
02:20:55
Rahimacheer their no I wasn't no that's Go baby go yeah know like I'm talking about like what their goals and dreams and aspirations just being like their number one supporter I guess maybe supportive
02:21:07
Rahimalike but extremely supportive like to the level where it's like okay motivating yeah I'm a motivator good okay I like that what about you oh gosh
02:21:17
Jordanthey had really good ones um I would definitely say I'm big on encouraging like believing in your goals celebrating your victories with you I
02:21:29
Jordanthink that's really really big like a cheerleader um very loving nurturing warm and welcoming like you know when he comes home give him a big warm
02:21:41
Jordanwelcome um um feisty in all the good ways very passionate um feisty in the good ways
02:21:51
Jordan / Jadewhen are those like when it comes to intimacy M oh okay moving on okay um the three
02:22:02
Jordan / Jadethings I think I bring is I'm good with animals and kids which again is like a nurturing thing um and it's a trend in the you know Trad wife movement guys want a woman who like wants chickens and
02:22:14
Jordan / Jadestuff um and then the other two things is I don't drink alcohol mhm I never have and and I don't do drugs and I never have and it might be good for a specific type of person maybe someone
02:22:26
Jordan / Jadewho's like in recovery or someone who just doesn't want to drink um but that could be important to them sure what
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Laurenabout you um I would say I'm I'm a very supportive person I I really if somebody that I'm dating like they have a dream I'm like okay like this this is going to
02:22:46
Laurenhappen like we're going to do this and I have this like delusional sense of like not toxic positive but like a delusional sense of optimism that exists and it's just like if they're ever in anything I'm like wow well we're going to find a
02:22:57
Laurenway out of this one even if we're like sitting in a jail cell somewhere um I think
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Laurenthat I don't know and then um three
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Laurenum I would say I'm very um intimate I um I like intimacy and I like romance and yeah that's what I like
02:23:21
Ashleyall right what about you um I would say that I want to be a mother and I think that's like a really important thing for me in the future wait so that's what you
02:23:32
Ashleybring to a relationship yeah is your desire to be a mother well my warmth and my femininity yeah I think like the the fact that I value to be a mom is really
02:23:43
Brian Atlasimportant not every woman wants that not every woman's willing but isn't that like the default mode for like the entire history of humans I'm not saying
02:23:54
Ashleyall women desire to be mothers but don't most women no no no not anymore when I say most that means 51% or more I think a lot of women would also put their
02:24:05
Ashleycareers ahead of having children mhm and that's sure there's a lot of women who have children who are not do not want to be mothers not nurturing where I would
02:24:16
Ashleyknow that I would put my full focus on my my children that's fair um I'm really honest to a default sometimes mhm and
02:24:27
Ashleyyeah I'm a big supporter I'm a Visionary so I think power couple Vibes if possible you know wait hold on hold on just a
02:24:36
Brian Atlassec when I think of power couple I think of the boss babe getting with a guy who's also entrepreneur successful Etc NE but it contradicts your previous
02:24:48
Ashleyright about to be mother do you want to be a stay-at home mom it doesn't necessarily mean that's the only Dynamic I could we could be a power couple and
02:24:57
Ashleythat means he's taking care of the household and I'm taking or I'm sorry he's taking care of like the finances and all of that if I'm taking care of the kids in the house and that is also
02:25:09
Ashleythere's power in that as well but I mean I I feel like power couple is typically like there's I think there's two ways to see it yeah you could also be two boss
02:25:18
Ashleyass people mhm I mean and come together and then you can also have a traditional type of power couple Vibe there's actually a Wikipedia entry
02:25:31
Brian Atlason this it's called a super a super couple also known as a power couple is a popular Andor wealthy pairing that intrigues and fascinates
02:25:42
Brian Atlasthe public in an intense or obsessive fashion the term originated in the United States and was coined in the early 1980s when intense public interest in fictional soap oper couple what the
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Ashleyokay I don't know what the well that's just my interpretation of it I mean I know some people have a different idea of what a power couple it could also just be two really attractive people together people are like oh what a power
02:26:05
Brian Atlascouple cuz they're both like you know really really attractive or they're both in shape I'm getting some examples here from Wikipedia Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez uh Brad Pit Angelina Jolie Taylor
02:26:17
Adeline StarSwift and Travis Kelce uh it's like good-looking people I think like what defines a power couple is your ambition you both have match ambition here well it also says so the definition here super couples are
02:26:29
Brian Atlasdefined as popular or financially wealthy pairings that are widely admired in an intense in an intense or obsessive fashion and influence society's expectations of what a great love story
02:26:41
Brian Atlasor relationship should be they may or may not be romantic or high-profile and interest in the pairings may be due to a combination of chemistry physical attractiveness
02:26:50
Laurenor because they seem faded that's point it's like a gen for kind of hold on what the people's people's uh attraction towards Jenny and Forest Gump
02:27:02
Brian Atlasshe's like a hippie and he's like a soldier wait she has AIDS bro I know yeah that's such a sad story of a relationship she rejected forced Gump
02:27:15
Brian Atlashold on no no no this isn't it's not a love story she rejects forced Gump he gets rich off of shrimp she gets AIDS and and she gets
02:27:25
Brian Atlashas a kid and then once he's Rich of course then she her even though she rejected him previously now she's into
02:27:33
Brian Atlashim after she has a kid has AIDS and he's Rich Love Story a but he loved her oh my gosh he he didn't know any better that's a love story that's a love story
02:27:45
Brian Atlasfor women and an absolute catastrophe for men s the worst the worst the rawest deal you
02:27:54
Jordancan get oh my gosh yeah people have influence I guess people who have a lot of influence can be a power couple
02:28:05
Brian AtlasLauren power couple power couple did you want me to say gonce and Jay-Z I was going to say that that's what I think cuz that's another Power couple that was funny though I'm not
02:28:16
Brian Atlasgoing to lie power force Gump is a power couple so bad I'm sorry and then and he's also like isn't he
02:28:26
Rahimalike deal for the chick and he does be Wikipedia underpower couple actually he was functioning he was a good guy he was good he was a good man Jenny I love you why don't you love
02:28:41
Brian Atlasme sry goodness uh he was um slow he was slow very yeah but good man he meant well yeah she had AIDS we all have her
02:28:51
Brian Atlasthing he had good cardio erroneous erroneous what the okay that's crazy son that's crazy uh we were
02:29:01
Laurengoing around on did we get to everybody no we didn't do oh go for it go for it um I would say I'm fun but I don't think
02:29:10
Laurenthis guy agrees we were going at I don't doubt you I don't doubt that okay um and yeah nurturing I love kids and animals
02:29:20
Laurenum and then I'm I'm probably a little have toxic positivity as well um just kind of always think everything's going to work out and I think yeah that's
02:29:32
Q / Natalievaluable especially if you're with someone who worries a lot yeah mhm let me see um what do I bring I bring an
02:29:43
Q / Natalieendless supply of oxytocin highs um creative intimacy what is thator wait wait wait wait wait creative
02:29:53
Q / Natalieintimacy and emotional stimulation and stability and security
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Brian Atlasmhm yeah wow simple that's uh that that was that was Beau basically all he said he lik yeah uh let's see what do I bring to the
02:30:13
Brian Atlastable um hold on I wrote These down wow just
02:30:21
Brian AtlasCricket get this right okay so so uh so okay hold on let me just pull up my nose here real uh you wrote it
02:30:32
Brian Atlasdown you know I like uh I get all my arguing out on the podcast so I'm like the chillest like I know it seems like oh he must be a [ __ ] but I'm
02:30:43
Brian Atlasactually like super mellow I never like to argue like I the way this is like kind of an adversarial show so I'm not like trying to get into arguments if I'm dating somebody like I don't like
02:30:56
Brian Atlasconflict like I mean if it's like something necessary needs to be talked about I'll talk about it but I'm not like trying to pick arguments and [ __ ] um and I tend to gravitate gravitate towards women who like a lot of the
02:31:09
Brian Atlaswomen I've dated had long-term relationships with like very smooth sailing um so yeah I'm not like some dudes you know a lot of people think think girls will bring drama but guys
02:31:21
Brian Atlascan bring drama too wanting to argue and [ __ ] starting [ __ ] over nothing like I sometimes you just mesh up really well with somebody and you never you guys
02:31:31
Brian Atlasnever argue it's all good for the most part um let's see no I don't engage in any vices Don't drink don't smoke don't do drugs don't go to bars nightclubs
02:31:42
Brian Atlasdon't gamble um yeah don't otherwise party so yeah and um yeah there you go they're good ones yeah
02:31:53
Brian Atlaslet me get this chat here we have was that only two that was two we [ __ ] we'll leave it there the shy guy Community that's all he has folks yo thank you for
02:32:02
Adeline Starthe uh 100o adline can you read this yes okay dancing is trying to express your feelings when I'm in the club I move the
02:32:11
Adeline Starway I feel the music what you think about these guys DJ's good or straight into trash
02:32:21
Ashleyasking for the shy guys be honest wait what what oh what like if guys are dancing is that what he's asking like if you see a guy dancing is that weird or what I don't think it's weird I think
02:32:34
Brian Atlaswas that the question yeah I think dancing so here's I guess I'll try to paint it like this you're at the club you see a guy
02:32:42
Adeline Stardancing is you like a guy who dances or not oh I mean if you're confident and comfortable with yourself and you want to move and groove I don't see that as
02:32:53
Adeline Starlike if you're scared of it being feminine or looking a certain way like if you're enjoying yourself that's all that matters MH I judge people who are at the club not
02:33:04
Rahimadancing so if there's good and you're just sitting there with weird if you're not yeah
02:33:13
Jordanum if I see a guy dancing on his own that's not particularly attractive to me if he's like trying to dance with me that's different can you scoot your mic that
02:33:24
Jordan / Jadeway no no you me yeah that way this way yep go ahead um well my dream man since I was a kid was Jean Kelly which he's he's dead now but um he was a beautiful dancer so that's the answer um I I think
02:33:36
Laurenit's cool if the guy dances but I'm not like looking across the room like whoa like check out that guy like dancing like you know I don't do that but I think it's it's cool um he definitely has to have like
02:33:48
Ashleythe energy behind it like it needs to match what's going on in the room like read the room type thing but no it's not weird if they're Dancing Yeah I'd probably agree with
02:33:58
Adeline Starthat like don't no not like you're dancing because you feel good you dance did you dance I think it's when they P the chicken just like a little s like by
02:34:07
Adeline Staryourself no yeah see it's like that's kind of weird right no that's amazing they're just feeling the vibe they're just having time I mean to each their own if you're fishing for intention and
02:34:18
Adeline Startrying to be the SPC of the event then yeah that's that's like oh no like why why are you yeah like Terry Cruz and white chicks yeah or if they just love the music and they're just you know
02:34:30
Brian Atlasconfident and they're having a good time they don't need to be on beat but there's there's um there's this song by Blink 182 called first date and one of the song lyrics goes is it wrong if I
02:34:42
Ashleythink it's lame to dance I think it's lame to dance I Don't Dance a well that's why you don't go to like bars or you don't go to clubs and you don't drink like even with a girl that makes I'll actually I I'll actually like
02:34:55
Lauren[ __ ] maybe dance around just like at home but like like go out and dance good what if the girl wanted to dance I dance with her dancing you're kind of sus if
02:35:07
Brian Atlasyou're a dude and you like oh boys we're going to go out and dance Well yeah if you put it in that way going to dance the night away oh yeah [ __ ] it's a little Su you're guy that's what girls
02:35:18
Brian Atlasdo right but it's not like are fine if girls want to do it I guess it's okay so would you not go line dancing with like cowboys and stuff places there so many guys who just
02:35:28
Brian Atlasgo there to dance I a line line dancing you look so good in a cowboy hat though thank you I guess do we have a cowboy hat in the studio let's see yeah good idea uh guys go to twitch.tv whatever if you're
02:35:41
Brian Atlaswatching over there on Twitch just hit that follow button really quick if you can and if you're watching on YouTube pull up another tab just if you got a Twitch account go to twitch.tv/
02:35:52
Brian Atlaswhatever um Nick could you hit the streamyard thing in the sources at the top yeah uh twitch.tv whatever the uh link
02:36:04
Brian Atlasis in the description drop us a follow in the prime sub if you have one guys appreciate it and uh oh yeah Nick if you want just pull that up that one up whenever we go to uh twitch uh let me see what else we have here uh you know
02:36:18
Brian Atlaswhat we'll do this one we do have Stiffler coming in ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 starting with you go ahead
02:36:28
Rahima10 10 I wasn't feeling my scarf but it's good closer to the mic go ahead nine like seven feeling like an eight and a half
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Brian Atlas[Music] today ABY check thank you for the 20 gifted
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AshleyI I hate this question but yeah like a seven okay seven Q six you're
02:36:56
Brian Atlasmore than a six Q you're more than a six 6.1 come on you're you're better than that uh I give myself a five I give
02:37:05
Brian Atlasmyself a five so we have 10 10 was it nine did you say nine last time you didn't say 10 last time no all right let's explore the tens a little bit not
02:37:16
Adeline Starperfect is perfect so why why are you a 10 this is looks mind you yeah I'm a 10 cuz I feel like a 10 and my partner
02:37:27
Brian Atlasthinks I'm a 10 so that's all that matters thank you for the 10 Subs Duran dolls uh and you're a 10 too yeah I think I'm a 10 but that's I think everyone should think they're a 10 I
02:37:39
Rahimahave a question are you wearing color contacts no that's your natural eye color she's those are her real eyes I'm from bra yeah but no in Kenya yeah Brazilian and Kenya but yeah I think every like that's how I feel about myself and I feel like everyone should feel that way
02:37:53
Rahimaabout themselves when they leave the house MH so I feel like a 10 do you think all women should consider themselves tens yeah I think the world would be a better place if everyone consider themselves a
02:38:05
Adeline Star10 do you agree Aline should everybody consider themselves a 10 I agree because if you look good and you feel good that's what matters and then you're bringing that positivity into the world if I feel like I'm a three I'm going to
02:38:17
Adeline Stargo out and I'm going to be bitter M honestly um would you though if you think you're a three does that make why would I want to feel like a three I wouldn't feel
02:38:28
Adeline Stargood my quality of life would be greatly diminished I wouldn't bring the feel-good bubbliness to my environment
02:38:38
Brian Atlasand people passing me are going to know that I feel like I am a three I've got a question for both of you or for the whole panel does saying You're Something
02:38:47
Brian Atlasmake it true to I mean yeah so if you're a millionaire or you say you're a millionaire but you're not does make make it true yes well no
02:38:59
Ashleybecause your bank account would indicate that you're not is it cumulative I don't think like a rate necessarily defines you though like you can
02:39:09
Ashleybe like a five and a six it doesn't mean that you don't think so highly of yourself you're just a little more realistic of like where you land you know it doesn't mean that I don't have like a great personality or that like
02:39:21
AshleyI'm super ambitious or I have all this going for me and that's how I show up in the world but I think that when you when you rate yourself like an absolute 10 it can also be like a little unrealistic
02:39:33
Rahimanobody else matters I didn't mean it you but nobody else matters also when you ask 10 people what a 10 looks like you're going to get 10 different opinions so my version of a 10 is me that might not be someone else's version
02:39:46
Q / Natalieof a 10 but like yeah that's what I mean it's like all objective Q what do you think what do you think on this whole 10 thing um I did a I had a tweet this morning I
02:39:57
Q / Natalietweeted um this conversation came up on Twitter and I posted a picture of um marget marget Robbie is that Maro Robbie yeah Margo Robbie and Leslie Johnson
02:40:09
Q / Nataliewho's who's Leslie Johnson um she plays in Ghostbusters the you can you want to Google her next wait you tweeted this yeah yeah I tweeted this because ONN yeah yeah
02:40:21
Brian Atlaswhat's your what is it the qill on Twitter yeah we can pull it up there's not it's not like to or anything you ain't posting like dpics or anything on
02:40:30
RahimaTwitter gasan gas Nick are you able to find it here I can send it to you if you want but you're comparing private chat a photo of a woman in her 50s and a woman
02:40:42
Q / Nataliein her 30s yeah but the point the the point was that beauty is objective there's a consensus about what people will consider attractive and it's based on culturally so whatever you think you
02:40:55
Q / Natalieare like most people cross culturally especially if you ask men to rate you will give you a similar rating and they may say you're more attractive or less attractive relative to what average is
02:41:07
Rahimaconsidered well the reason why you bring it out I used to live in China and in China their beauty standards are very different than American beauty standards and like what so like that whole idea of 10 what's considered a 10 I I I I I
02:41:18
Q / Nataliewouldn't say the standard is different because it's very different no no I wouldn't say not not based on the research and the reason I say that is because because that's subjective the reason I say that is because there are markers of what makes somebody
02:41:30
Q / Natalieattractive such as facial symmetry high cheekbones those kind of things so typically if you if you're attractive you're going to have a more symmetrical face as a woman more neotenous features a small chin button nose typically
02:41:42
Q / Natalieregardless of where you put place that woman in whatever culture whatever country she's going to be deemed attractive now there can be variance in what people think is you know she maybe
02:41:53
Q / Natalieeight or a seven or a 7.5 but typically if you say do you find this woman attractive that woman is going to be deemed attractive do you find this woman unattractive or less attractive that woman is going to be deemed L back to
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Rahimathe question the question was what did I rate myself and that's a 10 now there is someone who's going to rate everyone a 10 or a one at one point so are we asking what a collective group of people what well that's that that's what the
02:42:17
Q / Nataliequestion is actually that's what the question revolves around it it revolves around do you have self-awareness of what you would objectively be rated not I know it's asking you to rate yourself
02:42:28
Q / Nataliebut they really want to see if you're delusional if you believe that I'm exem delusional yeah yeah they they want to see if you rate yourself higher than what you actually would be objectively well there was this quote that I saw
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Laurenrecently um and this gu like this woman was posted and she was a plus-size model and there was men commenting like she ain't a lady until she 180 and I was like wow like okay and all of them were
02:42:50
Laurenagreeing and I'm like I guess they were into you know the they were into her and though that's like a that's speak about
02:43:00
Rahimawomen definitely Niche definitely a niche yeah go ahead pull it up Nick put us on the but I don't think this is fair because one is a woman who's can you make it one bigger well
02:43:11
Q / Natalieeven when she was younger she wasn't that cute objectively uh there's consensus on which you want to read it Q oh yeah yeah um scroll down a little bit Nick so you can see what I'm resp oh he
02:43:22
Q / Nataliesaid beauty is in the eye of the beholder all Races and and I was I was replying to it I said [ __ ] there's a consensus on which women are attractive and which women aren't uh Margot Robbie is more attractive everywhere in the world Leslie Jones is less attractive
02:43:35
Brian Atlaseverywhere in the world I actually have something on this too from but from uh what about ladies are there are
02:43:47
Brian Atlasthere some men who are more TRC than others MH yeah yeah of course I think yeah so hold on um Nick can you Google
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Brian Atlasactually hold on I'll give you what to Google Google that and then Google hold on this
02:44:09
Brian Atlasguy one sec one sec while he's doing that I'm going to read this Ben George hey thank you man more importantly than looks What would rate your attitude one to 10 does it reflect others attitude towards you
02:44:22
Brian Atlaswhich is more important looks or attitude relative to one's Health long term uh what would you rate your attitude 1 to 10 I'd say I'm a solid like 8 to
02:44:32
Brian Atlasn like a three I'm going be honest why I am very emotional and it changes from day to day
02:44:43
Rahimaare you uh like are you bipolar or no I have ADHD and a low yeah so I have a low attention SP and then I'll like say things and completely forgot that I said it yeah I
02:44:56
Brian Atlasknow 10 being like like the sassiest like you have a bad attitude like your attitude like a good attitude versus bad attitude like okay
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Jordan / Jadeum 10 being the best um I would say I'm like um seven okay yeah I'm so confused does this mean like you're really positive as a person like
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Jordan / Jadepeaceful you keep the peace and one being like the least um I think a five because I'm just like chill and British and dumb you know I would say 10 cuz I
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Laurenfeel like people are like Pokemon cards where they have different strengths and I feel like that is one of my strengths so yes you're vibrant you are very
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Ashleyvibrant yeah I'm I'm a nine I'm really optimistic yay okay uh what
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Q / Nataliethe guys have to answer I guess I'd say I'm an eight I'd say I'm an eight I'm pretty pretty mellow even tempered um some say I have a switch but I haven't
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Brian Atlasseen that switch so yeah I'll just give myself a seven I don't really know entirely what the question totally means but um uh so I want to ask the girls we're going to compare two men now
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Brian Atlasbecause you guys say well I often hear this argument when it comes to the rating thing well you know beaut is in the eye of the holder and you know one person's 10 could be another person's
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Brian Atlaszero and beauty is subjective but I do think that there are like sort of universal like if you could put a really attractive person in any
02:46:33
Brian Atlasculture any country there would be some consensus like and you can compare let's say just some person who's really attractive I guess you're saying well it's still subjective versus someone
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Brian Atlaswho's unattractive for I'll just remove the scale of they're attractive unattractive you could put two people together who look different and ask a
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Ashley100,000 people from different cultures whatever to rate them there's probably going to be some like correspondence between the uh answers I think it sorry goad no you go ahead you goad I just I
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Ashleythink it gets complicated when we put ourselves into the equation when it when we start taking it personally I think that's when like there's no rules I guess for for what also I was going to
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Q / Nataliesay when you ask them to rate other guys Instagram Pages we see the inconsistencies I haven't seen them call anybody ATT 10 yeah when it's other men
02:47:29
Brian Atlasnobody says oh yeah he's a 10 yeah good point good point um and actually we'll do the Bumble thing after this so Nick could you pull up the first
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Brian Atlasguy all right this is a male model Francisco Lachowski um scroll down a little bit scroll down
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Brian Atlasuh uh supermodel uh you can stop there he's 31 so some of these might be when he's he's a bit younger but he I
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Brian Atlasthink he's 31 now um uh would you guys all say that this is anra maybe he's not a 10 to you but he's an attractive like very attractive
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Brian Atlasman MH yeah yeah yeah okay next guy this is Luis Guzman he is an actor um scroll down a