Andrew Wilson HEATED DEBATE With Female Dating Coach?! E-GIRLS! ( ° °) | Dating Talk #175
Date: 2024-07-03
Duration: 7h 10m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00TTS / donation reader(audience)
SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_02Adeline(guest)
SPEAKER_03Cross-talk / clip(audience)
SPEAKER_04Cross-talk / crew(audience)
SPEAKER_05Panel guests (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_06Jelle (brief)(guest)
SPEAKER_07Nick (crew)(audience)
SPEAKER_08Elsa(guest)
SPEAKER_09Background(audience)
SPEAKER_10TTS / donation reader(audience)
SPEAKER_11Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_12Background / crew(audience)
SPEAKER_13Background(audience)
SPEAKER_14Sammy Joe(guest)
Key Moments
00:03:53
IntroAdeline introduces herself: 26yo, OnlyFans model/streamer/media personality, from LA.
“hi I'm Adeline I am an only fans model model streamer media personality I'm 26 and I live in LA”
00:04:08
IntroSammy Joe introduces herself: 28yo, IFBB bikini pro, online health & fitness coach, streamer, San Diego; has competition in ~2.5 weeks.
“hi my name is Samy Joe I am from San Diego I am 28 and I am an ifbb bikini Pro online health and fitness coach streamer and content creator”
00:06:13
IntroAyana introduces herself: 22yo, Santa Barbara, singer.
“I'm Ayana um I'm 22 and from Santa Barbara and I'm a singer”
00:07:27
IntroElsa introduces herself: 32yo, Austin TX, dating coach for men (7.5 years, 600-700 clients). Has bachelor's in marketing and psychology.
“hi I'm Elsa I'm 32 I'm from Austin Texas and I am a dating coach for men”
00:08:21
IntroMorgan introduces herself: 18yo, Bay Area, SBCC first year, studying political science.
“I'm Morgan I'm 18 I'm from the Bay Area and I currently go to Santa Barbara City College”
00:09:12
IntroAndrea introduces herself: 23yo, LA, model/actress/fashion stylist/musician.
“I'm Andrea I am from Los Angeles California I'm 23 years old and um I'm a model I'm an actress I'm a Fashion Stylist”
00:09:51
IntroJelle begins introduction: 23yo, studying for bachelor's in business management — intro cut off by TTS donation.
“hello everyone my name is jelle I'm 23 I am studying to get my bachelor's in degree wait sorry in business and um manage”
00:11:19
IntroMaddie introduces herself: 19yo, San Diego, lives in Santa Barbara, works for Whatever podcast, SBCC student.
“my name is Madison I'm 19 I'm from San Diego and I live in Santa Barbara I work for the whatever podcast”
00:11:39
IntroAndrew Wilson introduced remotely: host of The Crucible, fastest-growing debate channel on YouTube (his claim), political analyst.
“yeah my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible it's the fastest growing debate Channel on YouTube to my knowledge I'm a political saturnist a political analyst and I like to occasionally engage in a bit of debate”
04:00:32
OtherPanel reacts to street interview clip of a 26yo woman saying she would use a guilt-free pass for professional athletes (Lindy Waters III, Barry Sanders Jr.) in front of her 22yo boyfriend. Brian and panel: instant breakup.
“26 22 how long you've been together 2 years if she gave you a guilt-free pass to sleep with anybody would you take it... I would take it that's crazy”
04:30:00
ControversyAndrew Wilson confronts Andrea over her claim of being a 10: if she is a 10 and everyone is beautiful, can she point to the prettiest girl in the room? Extended back-and-forth on objective vs subjective beauty. Andrea refuses to single out anyone; Andrew argues this is "coping."
“wouldn't a person who was ugly know ugly when they saw it... the thing is is you're not actually engaging with the spirit of the question”
04:43:20
Key MomentAdeline concedes Andrew's wife Rachel is prettier than her when pressed. Adeline says Rachel is "beautiful" and "prettier than me." Andrew uses this to expose inconsistency in others' "everyone is a 10" positions.
“I think she's prettier she's got so much... yes she is beautiful okay great is she prettier than the girl next to you”
06:05:00
ControversyAndrew challenges Elsa's claim that Charisma can be taught. He argues the baseline must exist innately. Elsa defends her coaching methodology by analogy to teaching sales. Both sides partially agree on the role of potential vs actualization.
“wouldn't they need to have some baseline inside of their personality core some kind of Baseline Charisma where they even had the potential”
06:54:50
OtherBrian asks Adeline and Sammy to consider stopping sex work at show close; both decline. Adeline: "you start paying my bills." Sammy frames it as a personal kink/exhibitionism. Andrew asks Sammy if she would do it unpaid; she confirms the kink preceded OF.
“would you both consider stopping sex work entirely... delete your only fans you start paying my bills I'm good”
Topics Discussed
00:00:00
Show intro and guest introductions
Brian opens the show with standard announcements (Streamlabs, Twitch, Discord, Patreon, merch). Guests introduce themselves: Adeline (26, LA, OnlyFans model/streamer), Sammy Joe (28, San Diego, IFBB bikini pro/fitness coach), Ayana (22, Santa Barbara, singer), Elsa (32, Austin TX, men's dating coach), Morgan (18, East Bay/SBCC, political science), Andrea (23, LA, model/actress), Jelle (23, auto shop manager/student), Maddie (19, SBCC/Whatever staff). Andrew Wilson introduced by satellite as host of The Crucible at [11:39].
00:13:00
Relationship status round
Brian asks each guest their current relationship status, length of single time, and longest relationship. Adeline: in a relationship 6 months (BF Zach, both retired from mainstream adult content). Sammy Joe: married 2 years, together 6. Ayana: relay-situationship ~1 year, no title, bisexual. Elsa: engaged since Christmas Eve (4 years together). Morgan: single 2 months, 3-year HS relationship ended (she broke it off — ex stopped planning dates). Andrea: single 3-4 months, broke up by ex (emotionally unavailable businessman, still works with him). Jelle: in a relationship/situationship. Maddie: single. Sidebar: Morgan/ex "we need to talk" text discussion and laundry-on-first-date anecdote.
00:36:00
Age gap debate
Extended discussion on age gaps in relationships: is a 44yo man dating a 20yo woman creepy? Brian presents the question; Elsa finds it "a little creepy" (prefrontal cortex argument). Andrew Wilson argues the motive is purely looks-based. Macron/wife dynamic discussed (she was 40, he was 15 as a student). Ayana argues everyone counts from 18 as "year zero" of adult experience. Andrew debates Elsa on whether it's wrong to set age filters. Sammy Jo: fine if it's mutual preference. Panel divided on whether it's "wrong" vs "weird." Andrew argues it's a looks filter.
01:00:00
Men stopping effort after commitment / relationship dynamics
Brian and Andrew discuss whether men reasonably reduce effort after securing a partner. Comparison made to women letting themselves go in long-term relationships. Elsa argues equivalent failure is women becoming less effort on appearance. Sammy and Ayana discuss how men put in effort early then coast once they "have you." Morgan's ex situation as a case study: he stopped planning dates. Audience TTS chimes in. Andrew questions whether serving partners is a feminist concept.
02:00:00
Attractiveness, confidence, and approach
Discussion on whether women prefer confident or nervous men approaching them. Panel consensus: confident approach preferred. Andrew argues confidence compounds attractiveness. Brian expands: overconfidence reads differently depending on the man's attractiveness. Elsa and Sammy discuss red hair / emotional expression tangent from audience TTS. Whether confidence can be taught vs is innate debated.
02:40:00
Waiting until marriage / religion and sex
Andrea (possibly Jelle per mixing) — identified as Christian, pro-waiting-until-marriage. Brian and the panel explore her reasoning. Religious denomination not specified (non-denominational). Goes to church. Does not date outside her values. Contrast with Adeline's adult content career. Discussion: does waiting until marriage make sense from a secular standpoint? Brian presents the argument that women who sleep quickly with some men but make others wait is inconsistent. Elsa frames compatibility as the key factor. Andrew and Brian debate the implications for men who wait.
04:00:00
Reacting to street interview clip: guilty-free pass
Nick plays a clip (Desirable Truth or similar) of a 26yo woman saying she would use a "guilt-free pass" to sleep with professional athletes (Lindy Waters III, Barry Sanders Jr.) in front of her 22yo boyfriend. Panel reacts. Brian: instant breakup. Elsa: "typically worrisome." Sammy: she had those answers too ready. Andrew points out the boyfriend should have walked.
04:30:00
Looks ratings round
Audience TTS requests guests rate their looks on a 1-10 scale (no 7s allowed). Sammy: 6 (downgraded from prior 10 due to weight gain and hair dye change). Ayana: 7.5-7.9. Morgan: 8.5. Andrea: 10 (disputed). Elsa: 10 initially. Brian: 5-6. Andrew (remote): 4. Extended debate between Andrew and Andrea on whether Andrea can logically claim to be a 10 while insisting everyone is beautiful. Andrew argues Elsa's wife (Rachel) rates herself a 6 and that is more honest. Adeline says Andrew's wife is prettier than her. Discussion on objective vs subjective beauty standards.
04:56:40
Plastic surgery / aesthetic enhancements discussion
Brian states plastic surgery makes women less attractive in his view (real example: fake breasts detectable under clothing). Sammy and Elsa discuss surgeries beyond implants. Panel discusses whether plastic surgery can elevate a "5 to a 9" vs natural beauty. Brian: maximum potential is capped by natural baseline. Referenced example: celebrity/model photos shown on-screen. "Labiaplasty" mentioned as extreme case at [328:01].
05:50:00
Dating coach legitimacy debate — Elsa vs Andrew Wilson
Andrew Wilson questions Elsa's credentials and value proposition as a men's dating coach. Is it fraudulent for a woman to coach men on dating women? Elsa defends her methodology; 600-700 clients, teaching confidence/social skills/Charisma. Andrew: Charisma cannot be taught; it must be innate. Elsa: Charisma can be taught like sales technique — timing, tonality, listening, storytelling. Andrew: does Charisma potential require an underlying baseline personality trait? Both sides partially concede. Brian mediates. Chat heavily sides with Andrew.
06:53:20
Body count round and closing
Quick body count round at show close. Maddie's answer cut off/redirected. Panel answers (SPEAKER_05 mixed): Sammy/Ayana range mentioned ("single digit," similar to last appearance). Morgan: single digit (plead fifth on roster details). Jelle/Andrea: four. Adeline: misheard by Brian as "800" (she said "gosh"). Brian asks Adeline and Sammy to consider stopping sex work; both decline. Andrew asks Sammy if she would do OnlyFans for free (kink-driven); she eventually says she recorded herself before OF existed, so yes it pre-dates the platform. Show ends with raid announcement and final call to like/subscribe.
Transcript
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03:46:12
Adelineso rare wait wait wait I think three bisexual women in a r right here we are telling you do you have a penis do you have a penis you have a penis you got a penis it's different I mean I
03:46:23
Panel guests (mixed)could put one on yeah I'm just saying it's different I have one I can stra on me no but you you don't feel it on your on your fake penis is what he's trying
03:46:32
Brian Atlasto say wait so what's your point that not OB is matter hold on okay first off if you know what you're doing in bed and you know how to lead in the bedroom you
03:46:43
Brian Atlascan take a girl who's a virgin and have great sex with her so this idea that not all py like like come on bro if you know what you're doing as a guy most women want the guy to take the lead anyways so
03:46:56
Brian Atlasif you know what you're doing but that doesn't mean she's always going to be receptive all it takes okay all it takes for a girl to be good in bed really so long as the guy is capable and knows
03:47:07
Brian Atlaswhat he's doing as and has some degree of experience is open-mindedness and enthusiasm that's it of course if she's like [ __ ] unenthusiastic who that's
03:47:18
Brian Atlasbad in general right so so it doesn't have to be is good [ __ ] are you talking about the feeling are you talking about the feeling there's there's different levels right there's different levels so I mean
03:47:32
Brian AtlasI guess there's the are you talking that's the dead fish is what she was talking about the actual energy that's what we weren't talking about look there is different there is different kinds of
03:47:42
Sammy Joe[ __ ] too you know what I mean why you blushing chill out he's all flustered shut up but that's what I'm saying like it's not all good like it's
03:47:55
Brian Atlasthe he don't throw I know you have a thing against big laas okay I'm not don't you dare doesn't that mean there's more grippage for you honestly a grip yeah so
03:48:05
Andrew Wilsonthere's nothing wrong with so that's not what I'm saying I'm saying that you sound like a big labia hater honestly yeah stop literally just said I I don't mind it yeah okay
03:48:18
Sammy Joeespecially I literally said doesn't it give you more grip that's what I said but what I'm saying is is that it's the vibe that the person's giving off to like if you're there and you're
03:48:31
Sammy Joepenetrating right and she's just laying there like this like a p are you into that how many time how many girls have you been with like probably five or six how many have
03:48:42
Sammy Joehave the girls done that ever like two two the yeah were were they like on the fence bisexual they're full-blown like lesbians they're by yeah oh they were bisexual yeah but they were
03:48:55
Sammy Joedamn you you must have been [ __ ] up in some way no offense they're just they were just laying there like well no because then I I also watched them with a man and they did the same thing so damn what kind of girls were they I
03:49:07
Sammy Joedon't know were they had a little screw loose or what there you've never slept with a like a someone who wasn't enthusiastic in the bedroom you're that lucky let me think about this it doesn't have very
03:49:19
Brian Atlasmany that's what I'm saying like a woman who acted like she was doing you a favor instead of like wanting to be the I've I've been with women who have been more enthusiastic than others but
03:49:31
Brian Atlasoverwhelmingly I don't think I've had a girl who's just
03:49:39
Brian Atlaslike I can I've never had that [ __ ] they never said I came what's your longest you probably never no hold up
03:49:50
Sammy Joethat's not hold up hold up no I've never had that like encounter where you were like wow that wasn't like the best sex I've had like that was like pretty boring like she didn't do any
03:50:02
Brian Atlaswork like she didn't I like it well hold on do I like it if they don't do it I don't need a girl to do work so you just want her to lay there no that's not what I'm saying you're the boring I'm saying you're the problem I'm not the problem
03:50:13
Sammy JoeI'm saying like if if you know how to take the lead in the bedroom then it's like for examp even if a girl's on top I want to do the work see but there's a difference between you
03:50:25
Sammy Joetaking the lead there's a difference between you taking the lead and telling her what to do and her being receptive to I'll B around I'll boss around and she's going to listen to you and then
03:50:37
Sammy Joethere's a difference between like just being there and she's just like doing it to do it because she's doing it who you [ __ ] what the [ __ ] yeah cuz
03:50:48
Brian Atlasit's like why are you having sex then but you don't know that until you're in the situation though you know what I mean had tired sex had tired sex [ __ ] 6 a.m. oh my God so but you can like okay
03:51:00
Brian AtlasI mean I guess I just took some Mel this happens to me all time I took some melatonin and she's like babe I want to F I'm like damn I just took some [ __ ] melatonin chill out and she's like let's I'm like okay let's go I literally want
03:51:12
Sammy Joeto see I want to see chat right now cuz I want to know how many men have had sex with women who are like dead fish in the bedroom there is a name for it in Japanese actually Maguro like it's a there's a whole means like so deep into
03:51:23
Adelinea relationship for that to happen though I feel I don't feel like no you can like you can essentially like say say I'm pursuing her it's really hot and it's great and then once we go and we close
03:51:36
Brian Atlasthe doors she just lays there and I'm just like like a pillow princess like she just she just lay there wants to receive oh no you know what I think it is you know what I think it is I think
03:51:48
Brian Atlasit's the extroverted beees that be [ __ ] pillow princess pillow princesses and like what what's it called Dead Fish what m m or
03:51:59
Brian Atlasor dead fish I date introverted chicks and like shy quiet chicks oh they're they're fuucking I'm just saying it's the introverted chicks it's not these loud [ __ ] boisterous extroverted chicks
03:52:12
Sammy Joethat are freaky it's the quiet girls yeah that Library chick the glasses and the that the library chick's going to rock your world yeah I mean and but again it's just one of those things like you don't know until you and I'm not
03:52:24
Sammy Joesaying like every I've had a lot of great experiences with women so I'm not saying that I find it often but I have
03:52:33
Panel guests (mixed)heard of scenarios where what about like hygiene oh I mean yeah everyone should have good hygiene wait what do you mean that's another that's another shameful like not shame
03:52:45
Elsait's a shame because you don't know until you're there and then you're like know you're there if it smells like dead [Laughter] fish I don't know how we got I think I
03:52:57
Sammy Joewas just talking about pizza or something I don't know you said yeah said it's like you can't fck up a
03:53:05
Panel guests (mixed)pizza like even here's the thing right even bad Pizza it's still good P like still it's still good I mean you're still going to you know there be pineapple on it I knew you were going to
03:53:16
Brian Atlassay that someone was going to say I was going to ask who likes pineapple and pizza there's look there's different look but here's the thing though there's also like some some super like next
03:53:27
Brian Atlaslevel Transcendent Super Saiyan level five [ __ ] too that that's where you get a comparison that can get you into trouble as a guy that's why I actually think that so there's a this concept
03:53:39
Brian Atlascalled Alpha Widow where like once a once a girl gets with a certain it could it could be personality it could be the the dgame could be status could be money
03:53:50
Brian Atlasonce you get with a certain tier of dude it's going to be hard to date like normal guys or once a guy knows how to hit it like just right then you're like Fu you're going to I'm sad forever
03:54:01
Brian Atlasyou're just sad forever once you get with a chick who can who like comes instantly you're it's over I can't satisfy any woman it's just it's done
03:54:12
Brian Atlasyou're done once you get with a girl who comes like has she was lying what she was probably lying no bro once you get with a girl who comes instantly and can
03:54:21
Brian Atlascome like 50 times it's you're it's over right you know I'm you had like head yeah have you encountered a girl like that that can come multiple times yeah yeah it's just it's over sorry Andrew
03:54:34
Sammy Joeear muffs I know they got the Super Saiyan [ __ ] you know what I mean they got that gorilla grip well no it's not what not about that got that they're just like
03:54:45
Sammy Joeoverly sensitive and it just like because typically what happens when you're stimulated once initially and you orgasm you're so sensitive and stimulated that it just continues to
03:54:56
Panel guests (mixed)happen over and over and over again yeah so then you compare every other girl to her what do you mean are you Alpha Widow now Brian a little bit I'm just saying like you I like you're saying it's so
03:55:08
Panel guests (mixed)good so like do compare every other girl to cuz you're saying like after after that it like it's done for everyone else exactly it's different you know what I mean it's a little different so you're
03:55:19
Brian Atlassaying it could be different just it can't be bad that's why both men and women should not be promiscuous because every time you're rolling the dice you're playing Russian roulette and once
03:55:30
Brian Atlasyou land on the Super Saiyan [ __ ] you're just it's it's like you're going to compare oh it's you're you're just going to make these
03:55:42
Brian Atlascomparisons and yeah people do that about personality as well yeah that's what I'm saying like once you the person that you just vibed with the best your first love too you know a lot of people
03:55:53
AdelineI just think there's also room for evolution too you can not have Transcendent sex with someone and then have Transcendent sex with him later on down the
03:56:03
Andrew Wilsonroad what in the world is transcendent sex what what kind ofst join [ __ ] maybe one day you
03:56:13
Andrew Wilsonwill join the club he's married my eyes closed maybe maybe what does me being married have to do with not understanding Transcendent sex what kind of that's saying you probably
03:56:24
TTS / donation readerdo understand it because you're married a yeah what is what is transcendent SE it just gets better right it gets better the moreon Jackson donated $200 interesting how the energy from
03:56:36
TTS / donation readerthese strumpets increases when it becomes a degenerate conversation I feel like it was more like your energy hold on He's a brave decent man he's a
03:56:47
Brian AtlasPioneer my energy mhm you went from being distraught to very passionate true real quick I don't know she brought it up you brought it up a little I bring up I don't know we're talking about I just said we move forward we talking yeah
03:57:00
Brian Atlasthen you talked about well maybe the sex wasn't going I mean yeah I mean oh here's the here's the actual quote it so it goes sex is a lot like pizza when it's good it's great when it's bad it's still pretty good I think that's the
03:57:13
Brian Atlasquote on I must have got mixed up a little bit makes sense but I think that applies more to men than women definitely because I've had bad Pizza cuz here's
03:57:23
Andrew Wilsonthe difference right what pizza's bad pizza and chunky too much sauce Pizza why is there more even those are okay you and hunger levels cuz if you were
03:57:35
Cross-talk / crewsatiated from some really good pizza would you still go for the decent Pizza 100% PR Pizza I I do think here's difference
03:57:44
Brian Atlasthough because I think and this kind of relates to the the differential in terms of like a girl could just lay there and
03:57:55
Brian Atlaslike we could through our own effort still re Mo like 99% of men could reach clima oh for sure but I would argue if a guy just laid there could 99% of women
03:58:08
Adelinejust reach climax just through sexual intercourse alone I mean if you maintain that boner and you let me just use well
03:58:15
Sammy Joesure some women but but also uh there's a higher percentage of women that can't orgasm from penetration then true you
03:58:25
Brian Atlasknow that is true well put anyways let's move it on from from this from this sounds like a
03:58:33
Brian Atlasgood idea um good times good times uh where were we oh Devon Jackson We Do we have any super chats what what what was the thing we had to pull up Nick we talked about the bow right nobody likes
03:58:47
Brian Atlasthe bow that's unfortunate home math we did we already did that we did that uh we did we could go back to age Gap stuff or we could do wasn't there another um thing that came
03:58:59
Brian Atlasup what's that I thought there was another one that came up that just didn't ding I just didn't hear it not sure let's react to the uh desirable truth clip I saw this this was an interesting
03:59:13
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03:59:36
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04:00:22
Brian Atlasup let's let's go all right make it a little bigger oh I saw this okay go
04:00:32
Nick (crew)ahead 26 22 how long you've been together 2 years years if she gave you a guilt-free pass to sleep with anybody would you take it
04:00:42
Jelle (brief)no sir you you only you might get one pass but at the end of the day you want one wife and this is the wife I want so
04:00:51
Cross-talk / clipno okay now what about you if he gave you one if he gave me a guilt Tree Pass I would take it that's crazy that's
04:01:00
Cross-talk / clipcrazy sorry that's crazy who would you tick it with um Lindy Waters I thir oh no don't even know who that is not the
04:01:10
Panel guests (mixed)third that's our problem yep yep who else um Barry Sanders I'm a love of them what do you think everyone who doesn't look like those men have over your men
04:01:22
Cross-talk / clipuh they're professional athletes that's crazy shoot hey black or white one is Native American and one's
04:01:31
Nick (crew)black but do you think that any of those guys would go for you uh junior would that's crazy hey at the end of the day it's
04:01:42
Andrew Wilsonwhatever whatever I don't care how how old are you yikes okay she would have been with him she would have been with the guy holding the mic at this point had his arm around or he could have just cinched it a little
04:01:54
Brian Atlasbit closer you know just kind of yeah just cinched it a little bit but no he didn't I wonder um is it like a lot of those kind of on the street interviews
04:02:06
Brian Atlasthough I I don't know I don't want to throw the guy under the bus he he does a lot of those kind of Clips interviews I wonder if a lot those are stage though it's I mean it could be real I don't
04:02:18
Sammy Joeknow I think it's real do you think it was real yeah I think so wild people she had that she had those answers ready is that thinking about this question is
04:02:29
Brian Atlasthat so going around the table is that a breakup is that a dump no yes but that's just me that's just you okay what what do you think yeah if
04:02:41
Sammy JoeI'm the guy right for sure if you're the guy never love me yeah yeah and a break up break up oh I'd be gone she's foreshadowing your so for me the reasoning is is that they're
04:02:54
Brian Atlasprofessional athletes that will probably never look twice at her but they she said that they would they probably would though she's she's good looking actually would take the whole team at once they'd probably
04:03:04
Brian Atlas[Laughter] smell so yeah if you would say that in front of your dude she was 26 he was 22 though that was an interesting uh
04:03:15
Elsatypically that's also worrisome just that she's 26 and thinks that way H yeah yo
04:03:24
Brian Atlasbro you need a little advice you need some advice shoot me a DM my advice will basically say dump her that's it that's crazy that's
04:03:35
Brian Atlascrazy he's going to he's going to get clowns on he probably for the rest of his life mhm so did the girl like you can't there's no recovery from that that's why if you're ever on the street with your girl you can't if you're ever
04:03:48
Brian Atlason the street with your girl and somebody wants to come interview you about dating [ __ ] you can't do it's not going to go so like if yeah no no no wait wait wait I have counter advice to
04:03:57
Andrew Wilsonthis I think you can if you're not a Sim so if he had gone what' you just say you stupid [ __ ] get the [ __ ] out of here then he would have been heralded as being epic and awesome right he could
04:04:09
Andrew Wilsonhave just done that instead of going that's crazy he could have been like get out of here what are you doing he could have done that that that is true at least take your arm off her yeah so like if you're
04:04:21
Sammy Joedating someone and you're like if you had a free pass who would you use it on and they said like a famous actress like you would get upset and break up with that person it's the fact
04:04:32
Panel guests (mixed)that he said nobody first and she continued with multiple different people and their first and last and suff like
04:04:42
Elsacome on and I was just I was just asking and her when he asked her why and she said that they're professional athletes like I'm not the reverse like what would
04:04:52
Elsahe say like because they're hotter because they're model model yeah major yikes stuck either way it would hurt major I think he dodged a bullet though cuz he's not married to
04:05:04
Andrew Wilsonher yet he's probably still simping though they're probably still together I hope they're not his arms around her right now I wonder which professional ath this chick's thinking about I hope the
04:05:16
Panel guests (mixed)internet like bullied them so hard they're not together anymore what the [ __ ] M they shouldn't be together I wonder what their role play is like that's what it takes yeah yeah damn she's like hey babe I bought you this
04:05:28
Brian Atlasjersey can you wear it next time we get it on put this helmet on damn Rip's R's in the chat for for
04:05:39
Brian Atlasthat dude uh what was the other thing we were going to touch on there was I forgot if the bow was staged would it
04:05:52
Elsastill be as meaningful to you the bow video if it was oh if you found out it was staged it was for yeah it was for
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Brian Atlassure a bit it was for sure a bit but uh it still this but the message is nice well I don't need all that other [ __ ] I don't know all these girls be trying to
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Andrew Wilsoncook but honestly look good I'll just get door Dash Top Ramen the top the top Ramen looked good wasn't there a several there were several
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Andrew Wilsondishes yeah I don't know I don't know but why did they highlight the top Ramen why would you highlight the the the like what I think they were highlighting that she was mixing it for him what if it was
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Panel guests (mixed)like she was taking care of everything made it yeah if she made it all you did with water and the microwave like but not water what if she made it from scratch o SC I guess you never know we
04:06:45
Panel guests (mixed)need the back story pleas girl that be making everything from scratch today I'm coming here with today I'm making toothpaste right organic she actually do that
04:06:58
Brian Atlasthough she did that she toothpaste she made they make deodorant they make green what kind of potato chips are
04:07:06
Brian Atlaschips by the way TTS is now back to $69 guys if any of you want to get your TTS is in we have it back to 69 let me just
04:07:17
Brian Atlasdouble check make sure that everything has been set up so that can uh come through it should be good now uh what was the other thing let me get back to
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Brian Atlasmy pre-show notes actually I do want to ask uh the bear question would you rather come across a random man or a
04:07:35
Adelinerandom bear in the woods I was here for that one and I pick man man
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Panel guests (mixed)if you ever see a bear in the forest help the bear um
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Panel guests (mixed)probably a man I guess I guess I [ __ ] guess I feel like you can avoid a bear you just stand still it'll mind its business go about its way a man might
04:08:05
Panel guests (mixed)follow you so you choose the bear but do I choose the bear though because man just don't look at them what about you
04:08:17
Brian Atlaswhat's the context is you're just coming across them a button is pressed you get magically transported into the woods a random man out of the entire population
04:08:29
Brian Atlastot random man also gets transported into the woods so it's not like it's just some like random dude intentionally in the woods it's a random dude who also got transported into the woods and a
04:08:40
Brian Atlasrandom bear is could also be magically you will cross paths so it's not like you're going to evade that [ __ ] like you're you're just crossing paths basically do they both see me like is the man predatory or is he just a
04:08:53
Elsaregular man does he have a weapon you don't know well definitely a man either way okay I would say a man yeah okay man and
04:09:03
Panel guests (mixed)hope he's not like a predator yeah okay um bear because I'm hoping it's Yogi the bear oh that's cute if we're talking about like any random man well
04:09:14
Elsawhy can't it be random bear or SMY the bear actual hypothetical give me a lesson about the fire and is it a baby bear or an adult
04:09:26
Brian Atlasbear have you ever been to Russia they cuddle with Bears ex but I guess in America they cuddle with men what's your answer don't bear
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Panel guests (mixed)just kidding man of course man like wom or bear well or man yeah it's it's kind of a question you can really only pose to women I
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Panel guests (mixed)guess I mean I guess you you can pose it to man though okay a woman with a weapon or a man or a bear or a bear wait
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Panel guests (mixed)what with a picnic basket what kind of weapon does the woman have a
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Brian Atlasgun so it's between a would I rather be in the wood woods with a woman with a gun or a bear a man or a bear or a bear or a bear or or a bear
04:10:21
Brian Atlasyeah the woman with the gun but she's already threatened by you pop
04:10:29
Brian Atlasokay I see her from 50 yards away I do the most I just say hey there and then I turn my ass around and walk away that's it okay well that works
04:10:42
Andrew WilsonBo you know you know what though I was thinking about this question the the man or bear question and I I was thinking what if you asked men in reverse the exact same question I think I would rather get stuck in the middle of a
04:10:53
Andrew Wilsonforest with a bear honestly than a woman I think my chances of getting out alive are going to be better if I was in the forest with a bear than if I was with a woman cuz you have to help perfectly honest yeah because You' just be like oh
04:11:06
Andrew WilsonGod can you do something useful other than Wine like that's that's what I think would happen be like if you ever done anything use full in your hole can you do anything I don't know I don't know how to do [ __ ] that's what I think
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Cross-talk / crewwould happen so I think I would rather go I'm just a
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Brian Atlasgirl okay good times good times um well nobody really seems to want to you know the bear you know yall prefer the man uh if someone had said the bear what would
04:11:35
Panel guests (mixed)that mean about them based question I said the bear yeah but you gave like a joking okay but if it really was an actual Bear yeah I would still take that
04:11:46
Panel guests (mixed)you'd still take the bear for real yeah drop dead Brave act dead yeah like hey God it's me wait just curious why why the bear over the man wow how cool
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Panel guests (mixed)I'm seeing a [Laughter] bear um I don't know I just feel like being in the woods with the man just seems more scarier I mean it's
04:12:11
Panel guests (mixed)their now like that's their home and I feel like if I can just act still and play dead they're going to like not notice me versus like an actual man who like cuz why are you
04:12:23
Elsaout here why are we both out here I'm I'm I'm so curious about the context cuz if I'm alone in the woods cuz I got lost and this other random got lost in the woods and he's a generally good man I'd
04:12:35
Elsarather someone that I can converse with and make it back to civilization with alive rather than a bear where it can really only go so many ways especially if he's hungry like the man is in the
04:12:47
Panel guests (mixed)same the man is in the woods for the same reason that you are I guess just like automatically think he's like going to hurt me I feel like with a bear he
04:12:55
Brian Atlaswas already bearing bodies down the road yeah okay all right uh Elsa you said at least with your dating coaching business
04:13:06
Brian Atlasyou said you turn nice guys who chase women into confident men who choose their pick I think is that on your Instagram or
04:13:16
Brian Atlasokay uh so what's like some of your go-to uh dating advice for the for the gentleman out
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Elsathere well earlier someone said I think it may have been you you were I don't know if this was your view so correct me if I'm wrong but the view around dating
04:13:36
Elsamultiple people being wrong I actually when I work with clients I want them to date multiple women and I want them to choose a woman that best suits what
04:13:47
Elsathey're looking for and that is most compatible with them so when I work with clients like one client that comes to mine Andy that I worked with a few years
04:13:55
Elsaback um he had the whole package in terms of he's handsome and successful and kind but he didn't know how to position himself like it's kind of like
04:14:07
Elsawhat you were saying would you rather a guy approach you nervous quivering no confidence or would you rather him be smooth and confident so some men have all the ingredients of a high quality
04:14:18
Elsadude but they just don't know how to position themselves that way and so one piece of advice that I gave him and that I worked on with him was helping him become more confident so that when he talks to a woman he's
04:14:31
Elsadisplaying he's displaying that protector and provider vibe that a lot of women are looking for a man that makes them feel safe rather than a man who is safe like the guy in the video that we just watched like according to
04:14:43
Elsathat video he's not going anywhere and so she clearly does not respect him too much and so that's that's what I help guys do I help them display with more
04:14:54
Elsaconfidence and part of that is getting more experience and dating more women and getting more exposure to attractive women so that they realize that the pedestal they have them on isn't necessary like they're just ordinary
04:15:07
Elsapeople she may be very attractive but she's an ordinary person just like you m and part of how I do that is expose them to attractive women so I bring a lot of
04:15:16
Elsaattractive women to my coaching practice I pair them up on dates with the men and essentially over time Men start to normalize interacting with attractive women and then when they do see that hot
04:15:28
Elsagirl at the gym they just walk up to her instead of thinking about it and talking themselves out of it and saying well she probably has a boyfriend or she probably gets approached all the time which is actually not that not true usually
04:15:40
Elsaattractive woman the more attractive she is the less she gets approached because many men are intimidated by it is it all the mids they they get all the attention is what you're saying they do get more attention than attract woman
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Elsayeah yeah cuz it's less intimidating like there's the stakes aren't as high so my goal is to help a nice guy a guy who positions like a nice guy who's
04:16:04
Sammy Joeinsecure become the type of dude that would walk up to the 10 at the gym and just shoot a shot word how does that work like in terms of
04:16:16
Elsabringing the women in like I guess like your business structure yeah um so they are usually women who are single and they are like physically attractive but
04:16:28
Elsathey also can carry a conversation so they're interesting they're passionate about something um and they come in they do a virtual date it it would kind of be like if you matched on a dating app and
04:16:40
Elsayou did a FaceTime call right so she's assessing like several different things about him and instead of so in the real world when a guy goes on a date and this happens a
04:16:52
Elsalot to my clients before we start working together he may if if that he if he goes on a date and he thinks that it went really well and then the girl ghosts him after that that's feedback
04:17:03
Elsait's not feedback he can use because he has no clue what he did wrong but it's feedback and the feedback is she wasn't feeling it right so my goal is to exter that feedback from attractive woman so
04:17:14
Elsathat men actually have something actionable that they can do so okay you you're not feeling it but why is it because he didn't flirt enough is it because he kept interrupting you is it
04:17:27
Elsabecause he's kind of fat and needs to lose weight like what's the reason that you wouldn't give a guy like that A Chance in the real world because if we can take that data and give it to men men are problem solvers by Nature so if
04:17:39
Elsayou give them a solution to their problem they'll act on it it so but those women are actually single so sometimes they do end up dating my clients it ends up happening that they
04:17:51
Elsawant to stay connected um so they're not just like acting in other words they actually are open to meeting men how do you find those women like what's that Pro like word of mouth because I've been
04:18:03
Elsadoing this for a long time so a lot of the women who work with me spread the word to their other single female friends um so they they go on fake dates
04:18:14
ElsaI mean it's not really a yeah I guess in a sense it's fake in that they didn't meet for the intention to date but they are open to it it would be kind of like if we were at a dinner party and I introduce you to my single girlfriend
04:18:25
Elsaand I was like hey this is Katie I want you guys to meet and then I walked away whatever happens from that point on is up to you it's not necessarily fake like she may or may not be open to you well
04:18:37
Elsabut the guys know that you're arranging dates with these women right and the women know that too but if the woman's attracted to the guy it's not going to stop her from going on a date with him no but like the the women are
04:18:48
Elsapaid to go on the dates right they're paid to give their feedback yes and the guy but the guys know that it's not like a real date she's like taking the first step for them right um the guys know that it's not a real date correct I used
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Elsato not pay women the reason why I actually started to pay women is because a lot of them would flake last minute cuz there's just no skin in the game right so I started to pay them to make sure they showed up and also honestly I
04:19:11
Brian Atlaswas able to get more attractive women that way okay uh yeah how much so but I'm assuming the guy has to pay then for the fake date well the guy pays for the program he pays to to get and that
04:19:24
Elsaincludes like a the date correct it corrects three dates it includes three dates one one in the beginning how much is it what my price is sure yeah um I mean depends on the package I
04:19:36
Brian Atlasdon't just have like a one siiz fits all wow it's it's a range it just depends on yeah but you said whatever package it is it includes three days yes because I so what's like the
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Elsadifferent packages I guess I don't know they can go to her website and yeah just go to my Instagram it has it on your Instagram if you if we have the conversation on we have to get on a call we have to get on a call I know but we
04:20:02
Elsahave to get on a call because I don't I don't know where that person's starting point is some men are like some men are high-profile they don't want to be in a group with other men they just want to work with me directly that's one price okay some some men ulses the Pagan
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TTS / donation readerdonated $69 woman in black do you discourage women from the hash me to mindset being that's the main reason men are apprehensive approaching woman they have
04:20:26
Elsaan aversion to being branded as a predator okay yeah I mean I tell I tell my clients all the time that they need to stop feeling bad for expressing their
04:20:38
Elsaattraction to women cuz a lot of men don't want to be seen as creepy and UNT Ely like the bar for what is creepy is kind of it's blurred after the me too movement to where a lot of men are like I'm just not even going to bother like
04:20:50
ElsaI'm not even I'm just don't even want to go there and I do think that that's unfortunate it sucks can we get back to the uh can we get back to the pricing here I was interested in that why I'm curious what are yall what are you looking for out of the answer because it
04:21:04
Elsaalso depends on how much work you want to do on own well why does there have to be an alternative uh motivation we're just curious sami's a fitness coach I'm assuming I don't want to I'm assuming I was literally just going to say I do the
04:21:16
Elsasame thing depending on how Sam how much Sammy is involved in the process I'm assuming there's different prices like when I worked with a fitness coach there was a I'm going to just write you a meal plan and you're going to execute on your
04:21:27
Elsaown here the exercises that's one price are you going to answer the question no like because there's not one answer what's well what's the average price it's any it take all your prices
04:21:38
Elsatogether and average it ranges between a th000 all the way up to 25k depending on where you are on the Spectrum and exactly what you're looking
04:21:49
Elsafor so for th bucks they get three dates for a thousand bucks they get um an ecourse that has feedback that's the thing it's like what do you want do you want to do it by your
04:22:02
Elsado you want to do it on your own or do you do you want to just watch some videos and learn and execute or do you want accountability from my team or do you want to work with me directly and not really have to to share the
04:22:13
Elsaspotlight with other men it just depends like I've worked with celebrities who are who don't want to be known they don't want to be around other men so you do have a group though like there's a grou yeah I have a my Mastermind is the
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Elsamost popular option so how much is that the Mastermind um right now is
04:22:32
Elsa12K and does that include dates or no yeah 3K and it's like a group group setting on one hand and it's also like it depends on you buy so there there's
04:22:44
Elsadifferent price ranges depending on if you buy on the call or if you buy after you have a call with someone from my team it's not one it's not one and done I know y'all are looking for a oneandone answer but it's not one and done there's
04:22:55
Elsadifferent TI it just dep it depends on how many like nuts and bolts you want like how many features do you want it just depends like I've arranged do you have to p a nut sorry I'm i' I've
04:23:07
Elsaarranged um I actually don't even know if that's how you say it English is my third language so sometimes I mess up things um but it also depends like I've done inperson events for one man where I
04:23:19
Elsawill like curate an event all around him where he shows up there's all these like women and he's like the highlight of the night so it it literally depends on what
04:23:30
Elsaa man wants what he can afford what his time how much time he has to commit to the process I'm not trying to dodge the question because I don't want to answer it it's more like yeah there's just not
04:23:40
Andrew Wilsonone size F all no no I understand uh you bu for it Mrs Watson if you don't mind the reason I'm asking is because I'd like to know wat what is a 20 what does
04:23:51
Elsaa $25,000 package look like that's a private coaching pack package so it's where you're not working with other men it's just me directly just you and I directly for three months um so you have
04:24:03
Adelineuh your psychology degree yes marketing and psychology cool so um whenever you these men come to you do you have almost like a therapy session with them where go in and give them kind of like a
04:24:14
Adelinediagnosis on maybe some of the like relationship issues that they have is that part of it or is that like one of the things that you include yeah so mindset basically I don't know yeah well
04:24:25
ElsaI'm not a therapist and I don't I definitely don't pretend to be one um if someone is in a very very low mental place where I feel like they could be a harm to themselves I definitely will
04:24:36
Elsaredirect them um for me it's more just like look I am 37 I'm successful all my guy friends are married I think I'm
04:24:44
Elsahandsome I think I'm cool and yet when I start talking to a girl everything goes great for like six weeks and then I get that I'm not feeling it text and I have
04:24:55
Elsano clue what I'm doing wrong and unlike my career where when I have a problem I can find a solution and like and take care of it with women I have no clue what I'm doing wrong I keep hitting my
04:25:06
Elsahead against the same wall and I don't want to have kids when I'm 60 like I want to start setting myself up for being able to like have a family meet someone that I want to be with and I also like I want to settle but I don't I
04:25:19
Adelinewant to settle down but I don't want to settle so can you help me figure out what the hell I'm doing wrong yeah so you don't use your psychology degree you basically use to give them their
04:25:29
Adelineconstructive feedback you use these or not I don't want to say use but you take the data from these women that they've gone on dates with and then provide that not from a psych standpoint part yeah
04:25:41
Elsathat's part of it but that that's just for them to know where they are because the best way to know how to attract the type of person that you want is to figure out what that type of person would think about you in the mating
04:25:53
Elsamarket so like let's say that a woman wants to date someone who is tall and rich and handsome she has to know what that man is optimizing for in order to know if she has a realistic shot with
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TTS / donation readerhim and it's the same for men if he's Detective Mike Hunt donated $69 bachelor's degree grifting from University of Eastern
04:26:15
Brian AtlasAntarctica a can't okay uh yeah so I mean the whole like wait but
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Elsasome of the women ultimately end up dating like the women you procure yeah cuz they're they're single and they are attracted to the guy that I pair them
04:26:34
Brian Atlaswith and if they both want to stay in touch then they do yeah I mean on one hand it's like it's not a terrible idea if the guy's an
04:26:45
Brian Atlasabsolute has no social Acumen at all and he needs like a little bit of experience by like paying for a to go on a date I
04:26:54
Brian Atlasguess he can like maybe work out some of the little kinks and nerves whatever but I feel like the dynamic I
04:27:04
Brian Atlasmean like these women are paid to be there so like it's not going to be really authentic date I know that's not the only component of what you're selling but it doesn't occur to me that
04:27:17
Elsait's going to be like they're getting paid right well that's not the primary that's not the primary incentive though I'm not a Matchmaker no I know but but even match
04:27:28
Elsamakinging like it even if the woman's not paid to be there it doesn't always work out it's either she's attracted to him or she's not so the the paying her
04:27:38
Elsabeing paid is irrelevant that she's just getting paid for her time she's getting paid to block 30 minutes off her schedule and talk to a man that she's never met before and has no clue
04:27:49
Elsaanything about him and she's she's being paid to show up to the date dressed beautifully and have these uh have these ended in marriage for your clients oh
04:27:59
Elsayeah yeah oh yeah yeah if that's what they want I also worked with I also work with divorced men who literally just got out of a relationship and the last thing on their mind is marriage like they just
04:28:11
Elsawant to some of them maybe they marri their high school sweetheart they stayed together for 15 years now they're newly just want they just want to go out and they want have fun yeah they want to have fun they want to date multiple hot women and have fun and there's nothing
04:28:25
Elsawrong with that they if they never got to have that phase um then they get to F they get to have that so not everyone's Engle marriage I mean didn't sound like how many how many
04:28:37
Elsamarriages do you think you've uh you've you've been able to accommodate in your career of the men who wanted to get married many but like I said it's not always the end goal like I have a very big percentage of my clientele that are
04:28:50
Elsaactually divorcees and they that's not where they're headed they just want to have fun and there are also men who want to eventually get married but with my help they just want to have the experience of
04:29:02
Elsadating multiple attractive women and not getting shut down you say like more than 20 of your clients who wanted to get married have been married if they wanted to get married yes
04:29:12
Elsait doesn't always happen under my watch sometimes they learn the skills and then 3 months later after the program ends they meet someone or they meet someone while they're in my program and then they get married like months down the
04:29:25
Elsaroad so it doesn't always happen like when we're working together but in terms of someone walks in and says hey this is my three-month goal we we get them their goals we have a very high success rate we have a very high retention rate as
04:29:37
Elsawell meaning we hold on to people for a long time people want to continue working with us cuz they come in win they have a goal they hit it and then they want to continue how long have you
04:29:46
Elsabeen doing this 7 and 1/2 years 7 and 1 half years
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TTS / donation readerokay interesting and I am donated $69 Andrew and Sammy forget anger What About Love would you prefer a man tell you he loves you with no facial
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TTS / donation readerexpression or would you prefer he show you he loves you with a hug I contact Etc she said that earlier question yeah yeah we talked about that would you prefer man to tell you he loves you with
04:30:19
Brian Atlasno facial expression wait did we did we go around the table on this did you guys want to we did we we all yeah we talked about it oh this is for Sammy okay oh this that was when we were talking about
04:30:32
Sammy Joeanger and showing emotion do you want to answer the question though which do you prefer yeah I did uh I would prefer like actual visual or
04:30:43
Brian Atlasphysical affection got it well for some reason it's not coming up but Stiffler Stiffler I don't see it in the streamlabs he says ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 but
04:30:55
Brian Atlasit's not popping I don't know what's going on uh ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 you can't say seven go ahead you already know every time is a
04:31:04
Brian Atlas10 all right Sammy what about you you said you can't say seven yeah oh then I would say six okay nine didn't you say 10 previously why did you downgrade I
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Panel guests (mixed)gained some weight no Dy my hair a different color gain some weight got couple more experiences on My
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ElsaBT okay I laugh enough you didn't have to play that AR range between 7.5 and like 7.9
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Panel guests (mixed)depending on the day okay um I would say 8.5 all right I would say
04:31:46
Brian Atlas10 okay I'd say like five or six eight five Andrew what about you four so we got two tens at the table
04:31:59
Brian Atlashere let's dig into this a little bit and a nine over here let's dig into this a little bit so I'll just just go right out the gate here and say uh there's no tens at the table not a 10 not a 10 not
04:32:12
Brian Atlasa nine I'm sorry very sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry sure because you are the judge of all yes yes I'm the arbit I'm the Arbiter
04:32:23
Brian Atlasand the judge and the Executioner of female Beauty that's right that is right
04:32:31
Panel guests (mixed)yeah I mean what do you got to say I can't be mad that a two is rating me not a well see now now that's just like that
04:32:42
Andrew Wilsonlogic and like wouldn't wouldn't a person who was ugly know ugly when they saw it I guess just saying it what did you rate yourself to
04:32:54
Brian Atlasreason yeah why do you think of yourself as a five what's negative about you well much like my friend here I've gained some weight I noticed and yeah yeah I
04:33:05
Brian Atlasnotic L I know this too actually I think you put on a little more than me though you know what I mean yeah I don't know about probably did let's let's hop on
04:33:16
Brian Atlasthe scale uh but anyways uh let's see I mean look I'm uh you know I got uh gain I definitely gained some weight I've gained some weight gotta lose some weight I got a dad bod right now uh I
04:33:27
Brian Atlasgot some I got some okay things going for me you know I still luckily have a you know maybe you know got full head of hair still a little bit maybe it won't last long uh blue eyes tall 6' one but
04:33:40
Brian Atlasuh otherwise yeah f not unremarkable trust fund uh trust fund what does that have to do with oh yeah okay Finance yeah that wouldn't enhance uh physical appearance it
04:33:52
Brian Atlaswouldn't enhance physical appearance uh yeah I think I'm yeah pretty average I guess uh
04:34:00
Andrew Wilsonyeah so I got I have a quick question uh raise your hands if you said 10 what I know more than one person said
04:34:10
Andrew Wilson10 come on it was her and her and then she said nine okay and then she said nine okay so then to the G in the yellow dress are
04:34:21
Andrew Wilsonyou the prettiest girl in the room no then who is I think we're all pretty in our own ways and I think yeah yeah that wasn't the question I asked if you're not the prettiest girl in the room I who who do
04:34:34
Panel guests (mixed)you think the prettiest girl in the room is I I don't have an answer for that I don't well but it's not you beautiful than her I don't think she's more beautiful than her I think they all look different and they all look amazing in
04:34:45
Andrew Wilsontheir own ways so just to just to be uh clear let's assume that inside of that room there was a girl who had half of her face burned off in a horrific accident
04:34:58
Andrew Wilsonher teeth were showing on the side of her mouth and her tongue was hanging out of it okay would you would you still say she was a 10 yeah yeah exactly so then you're really not actually rating
04:35:09
TTS / donation readerphysical Beauty $69 have them rate themselves then the girl to the right then ask woman in black if any of them were
04:35:20
Andrew Wilsonlying the thing is is you're not actually engaging with the spirit of the question because you're essentially saying that the Hunchback of Notre Dame is a 10 it basically everybody's a 10
04:35:31
Panel guests (mixed)right everybody on planet Earth's a 10 right yeah so then so then there's just no ugly people yeah no I think I don't think there's ugly people in the world not not a single
04:35:42
Andrew Wilsonone no everyone's pretty like a wicked witch with a with a big schnaz with a ward on it you know and she's missing all of her teeth and she's just ugly you
04:35:52
Andrew Wilsonknow what I mean she's a 10 in your world well I'm you're talking about well that's that's totally your a madeup character yeah that's a made character wait wait who cares it's a madeup it's
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Andrew Wilsonnot a madeup character there's definitely old prone looking witches who are hideous who exist in this world you're saying they're a 10 right to someone there no not to someone that
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Panel guests (mixed)doesn't even follow that they'd be a 10 to somebody that's just like made up Tri sing the pot so I can no I think everyone here is a 10 I think everybody that is human was created beautifully in
04:36:27
Andrew Wilsontheir own ways and I think that's it there's definitely there there's no such thing as a nine there's no such thing as an eight there's no such thing as a s everybody on planet Earth a 10 yeah I
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Andrew Wilsonthink everybody is beautiful men women so so with the spirit of the question of you the prism of you okay have you ever judged anybody to less goodlooking than
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TTS / donation readerpaladins donated $69 doesn't even matter that there aren't any nines or tens at this table mentally and relationship material your
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Elsaall number one out of 10 in my book word okay I kind of back to this can I can I add to what you're saying um Andrea no
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Andrew Wilsonno hang on let me here hang on hang on let me finish the I'll wait for you yeah yeah let me finish the inquiry so what I'm wondering is then um if you think
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Panel guests (mixed)everybody on planet is a 10 you have never judged anybody as being not good-looking ever well no it's not that they're not good-look maybe I'm just not attracted to them it's probably not my
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Andrew Wilsonpreference if that's I don't know I think it's very shallow very shallow question so you've never judged anybody on planet or as being not goodlooking I just want to make sure I got that clear no I don't think so no okay so have you
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Andrew Wilsonever told a lie I'm sure I have yeah are you telling one right now no absolutely not no are you sure yes I you're sure you're definitely you've definitely never
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Andrew Wilsonjudged anybody on the planet you've ever met as being not goodlooking not even once it's never crossed your mind you've never been like oh
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Andrew Wilsonman you're ugly you've never thought that before never no no I don't think so no never really not not even not even
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Panel guests (mixed)once ever no I think it's a very shallow thing to say I think it's a very hurtful thing to say I didn't say say it I said than it oh no still no you never thought
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Panel guests (mixed)it you just never I've never been like oh my God he is so ugly I just no I don't I think that really I know I was going to say I feel like I've definitely seen some pretty ugly people in the
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Andrew Wilsonworld so let me ask you a question if every man from your standard is a 10 then why would you have preferences at all I don't have a preference [ __ ]
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Andrew Wilsonyou got to speak into the mic I can't hear oh sorry I don't have a preference you have zero preferences for dating so you would date him then how come 15 seconds ago right I just asked you this question and you said I've turned men
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Andrew Wilsondown before but it's because they don't meet my preferences wait sorry not in love just a second ago in this very conversation you said I've turned men down before because they don't meet my
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Andrew Wilsonpreferences well you literally just said that yes but not in terms of like how they look maybe in terms of Personality or things like that how would you know their personality you you turned them
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Panel guests (mixed)down like what's the fastest you've ever turned a guy down what's the fastest um I don't know I guess it depends I would say I don't normally two
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Andrew Wilsonseconds yeah like two seconds right away you don't know anything about his personality you don't know anything wait you know nothing about his personality in two seconds so why are you turning him down you can know something about
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Andrew Wilsonsomebody's personality in two seconds on depends on their approach somebody come you know about a personality of somebody who comes over and goes hey can I have your phone number what does that tell you about their
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Panel guests (mixed)personality I would say that he's pretty quick and I'm not even a hello first just give me your phone number I don't like that
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Andrew Wilsonso so you turn men down not because they don't meet a physical attractiveness level but because in the two seconds it
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Andrew Wilsontook you to talk to them you were able to judge of their person even engage such a bad liar stop the cap you fipper yeah yeah this is probably the
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Andrew Wilsonmost over-the-top amount of Lies I've ever heard out of a woman on this show it this consecutively you've never turned a guy down cuz he was badl looking every man on planet Earth is a 10 you have no physical preferences
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Andrew Wilsonwhatsoever and the only reason you've ever shot a guy down is because you can tell everything that you need to know about their personality in two seconds do I have that about right I guess so
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Elsaokay yeah this is um beyond beyond the Beyond but anyway I'll turn it over to the gall in Black go ahead conventional attraction is
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Elsadefinitely a thing like there is there is a b ological way and even babies can tell when someone has a symmetrical
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Elsaattractive face and don't I think what you're saying is beautiful in theory but I think in practice most people don't operate that way and I also think that the question like we we can rate
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Elsaourselves but really the people who can answer whether someone is a nine or a 10 are the people that you're trying to attract because dating is a market it's like it's the mating market so you don't
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Andrew Wilsonreally get to decide as a woman or a man if you're a nine or a 10 the market decides for you what your rating actually is yeah I think there's some truth to that but I also think that you
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Andrew Wilsonare correct that there are some sorts of objective standards and that there must be because um I do think that most of us would agree that you know a woman who had half her face melted off her teeth
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Andrew Wilsonare showing on this side her tongue hangs out probably is not going to be a beautiful woman you're probably not going to say that they're beautiful and probably nobody on plan is going to say that right we would agree there must so