Picky Travel Nurse DEMANDS 6ft3 Man Who Makes $100,000+ Per Year?! Jake! E-GIRLS! | Dating Talk #197
Date: 2024-09-18
Duration: 6h 24m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_03Gabby(guest)
SPEAKER_04Gloss/Mixed(guest)
SPEAKER_06Fief(guest)
SPEAKER_08TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_12Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_13Jake(guest)
Key Moments
00:00:00
OtherBrian dedicates 50% of all episode fan funding to Mason Greguier motorcycle accident medical fund.
00:51:30
QuoteFief states "having sex is the same as going to a theme park" — said she stated this on Dutch television.
“having sex is the same as going to a theme park for me you go out you have fun and then you go back home”
01:20:14
OtherGabby's delusional calculator result: 0.11% eligible men given her requirements (6'2"+, $100k+, age 29-43, not obese).
01:22:37
QuoteSelena (porn actress) explains she objects to boyfriend subscribing to other OnlyFans because "it's the competition".
“no because I have one like sub to mind like for me it's like the competition so he would be subscribing and supporting the competition”
03:49:41
OtherJake's transformation photos shown on stream — was ~110kg (242lb) at his 19th birthday.
05:11:36
OtherGabby announces she has to leave to work at 8am; Brian tries to convince her to stay.
“I have to leave I have to work tomorrow”
05:30:30
OtherDesiree (chat viewer) donates $1,000; Brian pops champagne in her honor.
Topics Discussed
00:00:12
Opening / Announcements / Mason fundraiser
Brian announces show, donation structure. Dedicates 50% of episode fan funding to Mason Greguier motorcycle accident medical expenses.
00:07:26
Guest introductions & relationship status
All guests introduce themselves. Relationship status round: Gabby single 4y, Fief 4y relationship, Gloss single 3y, Selena single 1y, Ruby single 1y, Madison single 1y, Jake single since 2021.
00:25:00
Controlling boyfriends / TikTok & social media boundaries
Madison's ex-boyfriend called her a b*tch for Tik Tok posts; debate over whether controlling behavior is reasonable. Instagram vs dating apps equality argument. Bars/clubs as boundaries in relationships.
01:20:00
Gabby's picky standards / delusional calculator
Gabby's dating profile reviewed. Demands 6'2"-6'3"+ man earning $100k+. Calculator shows 0.11% eligible men. Delusion score 4/5. Discussion of travel nurse lifestyle and serial city-hopping.
01:23:20
OnlyFans / strip clubs / boyfriend subscriptions
Round-table: would you be OK if your boyfriend subscribed to another girl's OnlyFans or went to the strip club. Selena objects (competition angle). Fief draws line at personal chatting. Open relationship discussion.
01:38:00
Porn, watching porn in relationships, gay masturbation debate
Jake argues masturbating when girlfriend is available is "gay." Fief says she allows it when apart. Extended debate.
02:20:00
Travel nurse lifestyle & serial dating
Gabby's travel nursing discussed as structurally incompatible with long-term relationships. Body count accumulation by city.
03:01:00
Body count debate — does it matter for relationships
Jake presents studies linking higher female body count to divorce rates. Gloss says sex is like going to a theme park (stated on Dutch TV). Selena unknown body count. Brian ~50. Gloss ~50+. Ruby 8-9. Madison 2.
03:01:00
Sex and relationships — body count, promiscuity, golden ticket
Jake: promiscuous women are unattractive as partners; sex should mean something. Gloss: sex is recreational. Debate on desensitization.
03:17:18
Self-ratings round
Guests rate face/body/total (no 7s). Gloss: 8/6/7. Gabby: 8 all. Ruby: 6 all. Selena: 10 body 6 face. Madison: 8 total. Jake: 6 all. Brian: 5 face / 4 body.
03:26:09
Better or worse looking in 10 years
Going around table on aging. Gabby (27) says no unless plastic surgery. Fief says would need to lose weight. Brian shows old karate/surf Instagram photos.
04:00:00
Duties vs desires / nihilism / society and reproduction
Jake vs Gloss/Fief on individual desires vs societal duties. Netherlands birth rate and immigration replacement debate. Gloss identifies as nihilist.
04:28:00
Feminism debate — what is a feminist
Fief defines feminism as equity not equality. Table asked if feminist. Ruby says no. Gloss says no. Madison says sort of.
05:12:00
Dating expectations / people don't date to marry anymore
Ruby says people expect too much (fast replies, shared values). Gabby wild dating stories: stolen boat date, strip club first date with doctor.
05:18:00
Wild dating stories / relationship red flags
Gabby leaves early (~5:11) to work. Stories from multiple guests. Guy professed love to Ruby after 1 week.
05:30:30
Closing / champagne toast / Twitch raid
Desiree (chat viewer) donates $1000. Champagne pops for Mason. Brian wraps show, Twitch raid to Frost Adamus (Romanian WoW streamer).
Transcript
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04:43:13
Brian Atlasreal person yeah that's uh that scam me wait was the guy a YouTuber just
04:43:19
Gloss/Mixedcurious the guy the six-year guy
04:43:24
Brian Atlasyeah never dating someone from YouTu again uh okay let's see we have Viv Viv how do you say that a thief uh you have
04:43:36
Brian Atlasyour Masters in anthropology that's cool uh you consider yourself liberal politically and you say you consider yourself a combination of feminist and
04:43:48
Brian Atlastraditional you like Equity over equality what is so I mean two separate things there when you say you're a combination of feminist and traditional what does that mean
04:44:00
Fiefum I think some feminists go really far in the whole equal uh being equal like having exactly the same role but I do
04:44:09
Fiefthink that feminist is about respecting each other and and feeling that people are uh worth the same and I believe that
04:44:20
Fiefthat women should not have to be questioned for being in an office room and have to explain why they're there even though a man walks in and that's all right but at the same time I think
04:44:32
Fiefuh men should be able to show their emotions and be not frowned upon when they do so I I I just think people should should be more together do you
04:44:43
Fiefneed to be a feminist to oh that's how I thought the definition from feminist is to to uh believe that one is not above the other but I do think that it's more
04:44:56
Fiefabout Equity where we have different roles because biological men and women are different with respect wise not one is above the other that's interesting and relationships should be a partnership well let's go around the
04:45:10
Gabbytable on this do you consider consider yourself a feminist um I guess so it's like loving women respecting our rights is it all about equality though uh being a
04:45:22
Brian Atlasfeminist I thought it was just like supporting women so I'll just give this definition so feminism is uh uh I suppose pursuit of equality with a
04:45:34
Gabbyrejection of patriarchy rejection of patriarchy rejection of patriarchy definition to reject patriarchy I look there's different definitions of
04:45:43
Brian Atlasfeminism uh I don't my defin I mean my definition of feminism is it's a
04:45:52
Brian Atlasuh at best a woman's advocacy movement at worst and what it actually is is a man-hating ideology intended to divide
04:46:01
Gabbythe Sexes and destroy the nuclear family and is the feminism I didn't like that's why I said combined with the traditionality yeah I feel like it depends on what your definition of feminist is I would say I support all
04:46:14
Gabbywomen and I think we should have equal rights but I don't think we should destroy the patriarchy
04:46:21
Brian Atlasokay uh do you consider yourself a feminist I don't know not really no so you're in favor of the patriarchy I don't I don't really have an opinion
04:46:32
Gloss/Mixedabout this topic honestly you no opinion on patriarchy no not really hm
04:46:41
Gloss/Mixedwhat about you uh no not feminist no Ruby feminist um I would say no only because I'm not
04:46:53
Gloss/Mixedthat educated on it I'm actually taking a feminist um f feminism class this far uhoh you should drop don't take it get out of it get out
04:47:04
Brian Atlaswe'll never be the same don't do it your your hair will be purple and you'll oh wow yeah um um so but as of right now no what's the name of the class it's just
04:47:16
Brian Atlasfeminist studies like 101 i' love to be a fly on the wall honestly I I forgot I don't know okay all right what about you listen no I reject feminism in all of
04:47:28
Brian Atlasits forms why dog I think it just depends on different definitions of it for me so it's like yes and no in different ways sure uh
04:47:44
Brian Atlasso feminism traditional feminism uh what's the traditional components that you believe in like partnership so so what how does that
04:47:55
Fieflook like think that feminism in my opinion is where women want to go above men and where they shout and and hate on
04:48:04
Fiefmen and where men do things bad uh I think it should be a partnership men and women are equal well let me ask you a couple questions uh do you think that
04:48:15
Brian Atlashistorically women were disadvantaged in comparison to men uh yeah in some ways definitely whose fault was that um was a
04:48:31
Fiefman what what time are we talking about are women disadvantaged today uh today uh still
04:48:41
Brian Atlasin some ways yes yeah and then so who who's doing it is it
04:48:53
Fiefmen yeah but also women themselves I think we're we're we're having this culture of um pressure on
04:49:04
Fiefus which can be oppressing a culture of pressure what do you mean of rule set of things that should go in a certain way such as
04:49:19
Fiefum like uh a career is something the men does uh that uh women can't [Music]
04:49:30
Fiefum I don't know and I did you put me on the spot I find it very difficult to think of
04:49:39
Brian Atlasexamples uh well I mean it's just the notes that you provided uh well okay how about this uh do you think that there's a
04:49:49
Fiefpatriarchy in society yeah I think there's a lot of men uh that lead lead to households lead to politics lead but there's also room
04:50:01
Fieffor women and I I think that's nice there's also companies that try to look more for a 6040 split with men and women you think women are oppressed some women
04:50:13
Brian Atlasare I don't feel oppressed you don't feel oppressed uh are some women oppressed you mean like in different countries or
04:50:25
Fiefum yeah I think also for example in Netherlands there are women uh that are oppressed on the with with for example making career
04:50:36
Fiefthey don't get the same chances as as men do um um but at the same time like you mentioned the whole emotion for men men are oppressed in that way because they have to tough it up and they have
04:50:48
Fiefto be strong and cannot share that and I think it's nicer if that can both grow to each other H
04:50:59
Brian Atlasuh well one of the things I've heard feminists say is that women were or are still oppressed and it's men's
04:51:07
Fieffault uh don't you think this is kind of uh hitting pitting women against men yeah that's what I said I don't like what the term feminism is becoming because it's about hating men well hold
04:51:21
Fiefon what do you mean by becoming well I mean how I learned the word feminist when I was like 15 in high school was about uh equality and partnership and about equity and
04:51:33
Brian Atlasrespecting each other and having room for people the way they are so did they but they did they talk about how women were oppressed even when you were younger in school they were talking
04:51:45
Fiefabout that women don't get the same chances and they were working towards that but did they say that women were oppressed I don't think they use those words it was more about the chances that
04:51:55
Brian Atlaspeople get because I mean patriarchy Theory women op uh women as oppressed men as oppressors is like mainstream
04:52:04
Brian Atlasfeminist theory for the pretty much the entire entirety of feminism which I think is a one objectionable historically inaccurate and it pits
04:52:16
Brian Atlaswomen against men and that I don't like and it's a total mischaracterization of one the relationship between men and women currently and throughout history but it also essentially just teaches
04:52:28
Brian Atlaswomen to be manh haters and to have contempt for men because if it is true let's say it is true that men are oppressors if men are the oppressor class and women are the oppressed class
04:52:39
Fiefit teaches women that men are terrible innately but that's the bad side of feminism that is feminism I have learned feminism is
04:52:51
Fiefabout equal rights and that means that that's but maybe you're natively Dutch right yeah is there military conscription in the
04:53:02
FiefNetherlands sorry military conscription I'm assuming there is does they have to serf or uh
04:53:13
Brian Atlasum is there military conscription I don't know the word conscription uh forced the the draft no you don't have
04:53:23
Fiefgo into the military as a woman at all uh there is now um a one-year uh de chair where you can go
04:53:32
Brian Atlasand get paid for a year to to do that but it's not enforced and actually I just want to be fair here apparently in 2020 conscription in the Netherlands was
04:53:43
Brian Atlaschanged to include women apparently so they they have equalized this in the Netherlands so this is perhaps not the best example but uh
04:53:54
FiefH [ __ ] Netherlands but I'm I'm not a men hater at all so if that's the definition of feminist here that women should be above men or should hate men
04:54:04
Fiefthat's completely not what what I stand behind like at all it's just equality I just don't like the feminist
04:54:13
Brian Atlastraditional thing it's just it clashes a little bit because I think what a lot of women do is they want all the benefits
04:54:23
Brian Atlasof feminism or equality when it suits them so that my sense of feminism is you'll only fight for equality whether it's socially whether
04:54:35
Brian Atlasit's legally if that legal equality or that social equality benefits women so for example if there is some form of
04:54:47
Brian Atlasequality which were to come to the detriment of women in some conceivable way feminists will not fight for it even if it were to create greater equality
04:54:58
Brian Atlasbetween men and women so for example feminists in the United States they're not in the streets or even advocating in any degree or any capacity to equalize draft
04:55:09
Brian Atlasregistration milit military reg uh military conscription between men and women only men are subject to military conscription in the uh in the United States in most other in the vast
04:55:21
Brian Atlasmajority of other countries in the world only men are subject to forced military conscription draft obligatory military service in
04:55:31
Brian Atlassome countries I don't know if it's um some countries like the men have to go do military service for a couple years this is in various Asian countries I believe even in Switzerland for example
04:55:43
Brian AtlasI think it's still mandatory that men have to do some sort of uh civilian service or uh military service women are excluded from having to do this uh and
04:55:55
Brian Atlasthere are punishments for men who try to avoid it or who don't uh but women don't fight for equality for those sorts of things they don't fight for equality for like the
04:56:05
Brian Atlasdangerous jobs that men predominate in the dangerous Dirty Jobs um you want to close the wage Gap but you don't want to close the workplace fatality Gap the
04:56:17
Brian Atlasworkplace injury Gap the more likely to work in the freezing [ __ ] cold Gap the more likely to get electrocuted to death Gap the more likely to work dangerous disgusting jobs Gap you only
04:56:28
Brian Atlaswant to close the gaps in things that benefit women you don't want to close the gap in other Realms which is interesting so you don't really care about equality you care about securing
04:56:42
Brian Atlasbenefits for women which I don't suppose is wrong but to parade feminism as equality is
04:56:54
Fieflaughable yeah I think the way feminism right now is being paraded true that's that's we're looking at the gaps where
04:57:03
Fiefwomen could win um but yeah I mean I I still think life is a partnership and I have a man at home so I would also fight for his
04:57:18
Brian Atlasrights but but I'm not very actively fighting at all but yeah well I guess moving off of that you said you like Equity over equality so what does that
04:57:29
Fiefmean what are what's the difference there uh equality is that you have to do exactly the same things though Equity is looking at where people are uh having their talents and what their best at
04:57:41
Fiefbecause for example U me and my boyfriend if we have to move a very heavy Stone he is better equipped for that than I am because of our builds uh
04:57:52
Fiefand I could train to be exactly as strong as he is but it would cost me a lot more um energy to get to that level so he should get the bigger piece of
04:58:03
Brian Atlaschicken oh he always gets the bigger piece of chicken well can we just like apply this to society too then so if men are more productive should
04:58:13
Fiefthey get paid more than women uh if if they do provably paid more or provably more productive I mean if they're yeah if someone is more productive than
04:58:23
Brian Atlassomeone else they should get paid more well then for example uh I don't know how it is in the Netherlands but uh police police officers
04:58:33
Brian Atlasfirefighters and people in the military so women can become police officers women can become firefighters women can join the military but these are jobs
04:58:43
Brian Atlasthat require some degree of physical exertion firefighters police a police excuse me a police officer might have to apprehend a suspect might have to
04:58:54
Brian Atlasphysically uh physically uh arrest him detain him whatever uh and then military there's a force application in the military too
04:59:04
Brian Atlasmen are and and not not only in the actual job but all these jobs I listed have physical requirements which would seem to indicate that in the actual job there
04:59:16
Fiefare going to be physical requirements right so then the women if they want to be on the same level should train more probably but here's the difference in
04:59:26
Brian Atlasfor the purposes of equity or equality we've lowered the physical requirements for women for in police force and this is seen across various countries in police forces military and firefighting
04:59:38
Jakebut they get paid the exact same even though even though these are physically laborious jobs so also in the corporate world as well you've got Dei so women will be Dei hes they don't meet the same
04:59:50
Brian Atlasqualifications but because they're women and they need to fill a quota they'll get the job more easy don't you see that a lot in like coding and computer engineering jobs like they're just like desperate to get the like oh we have a
05:00:02
Brian Atlaswoman engineer and they're like less qualified than their male counterparts and then males are who are more qualified are overlooked in like software engineering and so forth
05:00:11
Brian Atlasbecause the woke Silicon Valley in San Francisco companies want to uh I don't know do the Dei
05:00:24
Jake[ __ ] okay I don't know no push back I guess the point he's making is that you've got um Dei and you've got all of these lowered requirements that actually goes against the natural course of
05:00:36
Jakethings if the market is just sort of if if the market was just play out get paid more men would be in all these different positions and also men are more likely to die at work work in all these
05:00:46
Jakehorrible conditions doesn't it seem like women are kind of already
05:00:52
Fiefwinning if you say it like that uh yeah uh I don't think it's
05:01:07
Fiefnecessarily I don't know I just I like it when there's a partnership I have that with my with my partner I have that with my friends uh I see that in my family and that's what I
05:01:22
Brian Atlasmeant okay um you said men and women are different by nature and thus complete equality would make no sense we need to find where people's potential lies and bring that up where women or men feel they are stuck with boundaries imposed
05:01:35
Brian Atlasby others we should ask questions for example that women have to prove themselves why they are in in a room while a man is assumed to be there like for business okay or the fact that men are not supposed to cry or show
05:01:50
Brian Atlasemotions uh yeah but this is kind of something I mean the whole crying thing like this is something that is kind of policed by women you don't like weak
05:02:03
Brian Atlasmen crying is not weak yeah it is crying is not weak I have if if men cried in the same ways that women cry you would think it's
05:02:13
Jakeweak I fully disagree what about if they cry cuz they stub their toe would that be weak then they have a low pain tolerance unless it's really bad think that' be a
05:02:24
Gloss/Mixedhint of weakness about that if it's about if if it's measured on their pain level then yeah but that doesn't say anything about them as a
05:02:36
Jakeperson at all what because someone called them fat someone called them fat someone called them fat and they started crying well that's that's awful that's really sad so you think that if just a an off comment
05:02:48
Gloss/Mixedyou're walking with your boyfriend down the street and someone says doesn't make and then he starts crying about maybe he has trauma or something doesn't make him a weak man like if a if a man dares to
05:02:59
Gloss/Mixedcry in front of me that makes me feel more like honored like oh you dare to you trust me you dare to cry in front of me and I'll take care of you so I think women will generally say this but it's
05:03:11
Jakefor the most part A Lie um they're actually pretty gross out when guys cry especially for for trivial reasons as well and and wouldn't you want that to change no you don't have a feeling like
05:03:22
Jakedo you cry no never that's bad emotion I think I think you guys think about it from the female Paradigm which is that you cry a lot because you guys are more emotional beings I can't I
05:03:34
Jakecouldn't cry if I tried you know sometimes [ __ ] happens that's really horrible and I'm like there's not there's not even one little bit of me that wants to cry right now you know but it's just I think it's just kind of way
05:03:46
Jakeholding in your emotion like it's vulnerable I'll I'll go smash the boxing bag for an hour and I'll feel good after it I think we just we just operate differently and generally if I see a guy who cries a lot it suggests to me that
05:03:57
Jakehe has a lack of emotional control and that would that would echo in other parts of his personality and his character as well so okay then maybe I I put that as one of the things I thought
05:04:09
Jakethere would be nice to have more room for men but maybe that's completely my own mind and that's not a need at all yeah I don't know I think a lot of guys just don't really like crying you know it's not really just it's just not
05:04:21
Gloss/Mixedreally something we do as much you you guys can cry on a a human emotion of course men cry as well I think they don't because I feel like they can't I don't I don't really think that's true
05:04:32
JakeI've got a lot of for you I've got a lot of male friends and it's very rare that they cry if they did you know that's fine I think if you're around your male friends it's it's okay to shed a tear sometimes but I just don't really think it's something we do as much generally
05:04:45
Jakewe tend to have like more logical practical conversations if I was if I had a real disagreement with a guy and he just started crying I'd be a bit like okay like can we stop the tears and can we just have a have a conversation about it because we're not really solving
05:04:58
Gloss/Mixedanything by you just sitting there sobbing you know so well you let out your emotion is is good to let it go sometimes yeah that's for every single human being of course maybe you don't have it some people have it more than
05:05:09
Jakeothers but I think it's a bad thing to say that man shouldn't do it because it's weak but we have other ways of channeling out our emotion though and I think that crying is just not really
05:05:19
Jakenecessarily one of them if you go to the gym go for a run go and have a have have a logical practical conversation with somebody you know if I've got a real problem and it's really eating away at me I'm not going to cry because then the
05:05:31
Gloss/Mixedproblem's still there I'm going to go and call my Call out one of my brothers or one of my best friends and you do that after crying usually first you let your emotion go and then you grab yourself together and brainstorm okay
05:05:42
Gloss/Mixedwhat can we do about this have a waste of time crying yeah well maybe for you I think yeah I don't know it's just like a a way to release the emotion like it doesn't have to like when you feel
05:05:53
Gloss/Mixedreally intensely sad or like mad about something it's just a way of releasing emotion it's doesn't make you more weak cuz like You' say I mean like their way of releasing that is by hitting things
05:06:04
Gloss/Mixedor like with anger and I don't think that's better or worse it's just like people you know the way they let out emotion is different so I don't view it as weak it's just like you know I'd
05:06:16
Gloss/Mixedrather have them cry than to like hold it inside and feel like that intense that's some man that's some man [ __ ] you [ __ ] stifle that [ __ ] push it down yeah you push it down [ __ ] push that
05:06:27
Brian Atlas[ __ ] down dud I I don't believe in that like you should be able to be emotional no well even if I grant that like look if you're if you're a guy and you're going to cry don't do that [ __ ] in front of your chick that's for sure yes you
05:06:40
Gloss/Mixedshould definitely she's the one also supposed to take care of you she's the one who's supposed to be there for you and take care of you in times when you doing she's supposed to be there and take care of you but she's the right one
05:06:51
Brian Atlasshe will but what women say and how they act are sometimes very different so you'll see your guy cry in front of you and like even if it doesn't register in your brain somewhere back there you're
05:07:04
Gloss/Mixedgoing to be like this guy's a [ __ ] [ __ ] y you're going you're going to lose attraction cuz he just said basically he implied that so I feel like it's more of a society thing no
05:07:15
Gloss/Mixedit's it's a woman thing it's a woman of ingrained like who raised if I were to we grew up in a society that ingrains ideas in our head so then we're going to just you know
05:07:26
Brian Atlassubconsciously react in a certain way can I ask you a question and he one of your boys cried in front of you but it was like I'm trying to H I don't know if this is going to be a perfect example
05:07:36
Jakelike if one of your your male friends cried like would you conso them yeah yeah but I wouldn't it would it wouldn't be like a oh like are you okay that sort of thing you just sit there with them yeah and then you'd come to a logical
05:07:48
Jakepractical solution about it yeah of course I'd sit there in the moment and that's happened to me before where I've had guy friends of mine who have you know confided in me and and ended up crying there's nothing wrong with that it's fine but I'm not going to sit there
05:08:00
Jakeand start crying with you we're going to yeah like you don't need to Baby someone but you can definitely I think that women do that though and that's different like one of you starts crying and everyone starts crying and then
05:08:11
Jakeyou just want to be sort of heard as as a guy it's different women tend to want if your girl cries in front of you the last thing that I'm going to do is be like okay cool like let's get a practical solution going you know I'm just going to be like y okay cool yeah
05:08:23
Jakeokay wow that's so sad and let's sit there yes just support them you can say that both that's a tragedy um but with if a guy cries in front of me generally it's going to be like all right let's let's try and let's get this out the way
05:08:33
Jakeand then let try and fix this problem there two different things but also guys are meant to be the protectors and generally if you cry it means that you can't handle a situation and it reduces you to tears it reduces
05:08:46
Jakeyou to this level of emotion and I think there's something in women that says if they see a guy crying over a problem then he can't handle tough situations and then when it comes to that moment where he needs to step up he might he
05:08:56
Gloss/Mixedmight crumble he might collapse so I don't think it's an attractive thing to do I feel like it's more situational you know what I mean yeah if he's crying at everything like okay if a
05:09:08
Jakefamily member dies and then he's like overcome with emotion then that's fair enough obviously if something so tragic happens but if it's every over all these little things then it's just kind of just [ __ ] if I'm well it's just a lack
05:09:20
TTS Readerof like emotional stability if they cry at everything but it's like if you're crying good reason L paladins donated $100 it's true that women want a man to
05:09:31
TTS Readershow crying to them because nothing is more repulsive to a woman than wasting her time with a weak man if you show her your weakness you've saved her
05:09:43
Brian Atlastime facts that's facts all paladins this is so toxic I can't even 100 by the way you can do your little special 100 you know you little things BL pound it's
05:09:52
Gloss/Mixedit's sorry it's what it's it's so toxic to spread this message how is it toxic to young men thinking that they cannot
05:10:02
Brian Atlasexpress emotion the only time honestly the only time a man should cry is if a family member died di someone close to
05:10:10
Gabbythem died um maybe like a beloved animal died that's toxic masculinity it literally hold on hold on because then
05:10:22
Gloss/Mixedif you cry at something you'll be like everyone hates me menal emotion no one cares about blah blah blah it's like you're the one saying it hold on so okay
05:10:31
Brian Atlasso I'm trying to think uh like severe health issue for a loved one or yourself like you find out you have cancer that's acceptable but like all
05:10:43
Brian Atlasthe scenarios where y'all [ __ ] cry about [ __ ] it's not acceptable for a dude to cry in like 99% of the scenarios
05:10:51
Brian Atlasin which y'all cry I don't be crying that much [ __ ] Taurus Oh what is mess with the mess with the horns you get wait mess with the oh my God I
05:11:03
Jake[ __ ] it up but I would say the the the the reverse of what you guys think is actually true about crying and about toxic masculinity if you if you encourage guys to just cry about everything then that's actually against
05:11:15
TTS Readerour nature we don't want to cry about things we want to come up ha and well met L Paladin's donated $100 and2 thank you man it's toxic for you to prevent
05:11:26
TTS Readermen like me from teaching other men truth feminism is about power not equality and women knowing the truth and men being kept in the dark is a power IM
05:11:36
Gabbybalance that it's true it's true it's true what does that even mean Brian I have to leave I have to work tomorrow yeah I'm going to leave soon too what the bro we got no you guys got to stay you got to stay I have to
05:11:49
Brian Atlaswork tomorrow I have to work at like 8:00 a.m. what sucking dick hell yeah guys we're going to wrap the show up here soon just you guys got to make it to the end we we got to how long I can stay for
05:12:02
Jakemaybe another 20 minutes or so bro don't don't do me dirty like you'll be right just have a Red Bull and can I get you a Red Bull Dr no I mean tomorrow morning you just have a Red Bull and you'll be Winder up watch your go wait we get
05:12:15
Brian Atlasthrough all your notes hold on let me see here we have gloski we have oh okay hold on well I got to at least get through your notes first Gabrielle so okay you said you have lots of wild
05:12:27
Brian Atlasdating stories from all the states I've lived in from first dates that ended up at a strip club swingers dates with
05:12:35
Gabbydoctors plural from my Hospital EX ET how many Physicians have you um dated only like one actually but another one
05:12:47
Gabbysent me flowers and he always asked me out but I said no wait you said you had dates with doctors plural from your hospital well I meant just one but like
05:12:57
Gabbymultiple dates with One doctor mhm wild let's hear one of the one or two of these wild dating stories H um okay so whenever I was living in Miami
05:13:09
Gabbythese guys asked me and my friend to go on a double date on a boat M we thought they like had a boat or Runing a boat but they were actually like the Skippers for the boat and they just
05:13:19
Gabbystole sto the owner's boat and took us to the warf which is like a bar on the water and then we didn't like the vibe
05:13:29
Gabbyso we just dipped yeah um and then okay so I went on a date with a guy who took me to a strip club and you know I was honestly down cuz
05:13:41
Gabbylike I'm always down for the plot I'm down because I had just moved to Arizona and I didn't really know a lot of people there and already from dinner it he took me to a nice restaurant but just so many
05:13:52
Gabbyred flags and I didn't see it going anywhere so he told me that his birthday was that night but he was meeting up with his friends and I was like you know what [ __ ] it maybe his friends are cool
05:14:03
Gabbyor like I'll meet some cool girls through whoever they go with and he took me to the shrip club and as soon as we got there um the stripper came up and she was like oh hey so and so good to see you again and like looked at me she
05:14:16
Gabbylike you know he comes you all the time right I was like oh yeah it's a cool spot cuz like honestly I didn't care if he goes to the shrip club cuz like I wasn't going to date him you're like I don't even know him like that whatever
05:14:29
Brian Atlasuh you said that you're earlier on the show you said you're really picky and you have high standards although we kind of went over that a little bit right I mean we we did the delusional yeah we
05:14:41
Brian Atlasdid the delusional calculator um but you said you'd rather remain single than settle or lower your standards is that correct correct okay but I'll like I'll give people a chance
05:14:54
Brian Atlasand I'll go on dates with them cuz I feel like everyone deserves a shot cuz you don't know if there is a connection or not until you try it out you you should give this podcast a shot and stay till the end of the show I can't at like
05:15:06
Brian Atlas2 a.m. um we're I mean we are gonna wrap probably within an hour you guys why don't you you guys
05:15:16
Brian Atlascould stay an hour that would be uh that would be super um I wish I could but I got lives to save I've got to be up at 6 a.m. as well so 30 minutes we'll we'll
05:15:29
Brian Atlasall do this together I got to be up at 6:00 a.m. too so that's all power through you're not getting up at 600 a.m. I am are you yeah I got to drive to La early in the morning why this is why the wage Gap exists because Jake's over
05:15:41
Brian Atlashere he's like yo we're going to power through and y'all are like oh no I I stayed till the
05:15:49
Gabbyend last time so uh yeah um no one told me how long this is going to be uncover a cery bit of research would
05:16:00
Jakehave I know I did no research yeah well I'm always down for the plot down for the plot it gets me in situations like this this is the plot so got to be here
05:16:11
Brian Atlashere till it thickens uh you want to just stay you I think you got this bro I think you got this I'm getting hangry and I got to
05:16:20
Gabbywork tomorrow I got actually I don't have any Apple I got ketchup packets that's [ __ ] it's okay I I I have some ketchup packets in the wow that's La wait tell you what tell you what how
05:16:33
Brian Atlasabout how about we make a deal I'll let you leave early if you shoot a ketchup packet on stream right now that's a good my mouth yeah well not like I didn't mean it that way like shoot it like you have to like a shot you have to take a
05:16:45
Gabbyketchup pack damn it why did I offer this ketchup can I have a ketchup it's like an easy okay and there's a soy sauce packet that you also have to do oh
05:16:55
Brian Atlasokay and no you no you keep No Chaser No Chaser no chase no case um actually I resend my thing you
05:17:07
Brian Atlasguys just I'm going to kidnap you here you guys are now all in an abusive relationship with me I'm I'm actually kidnapping all of you none of you are allowed to
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Brian Atlasleave uh sorry okay
05:17:30
Brian Atlasuh uh Selena I need to get into your your notes too you dork yeah all right you said you wanted to talk about SE sexual compatibility can money bu love oh yeah I mean I feel like we already
05:17:43
Brian Atlastalked about that stuff these are your new notes also your Instagram and why does it say Southern bell cuz I'm from Texas oh that's right okay um but yeah I
05:17:56
Gloss/Mixedmean the only thing new I really added was just another date story about the guy I I mean like he was just kind of rude and he took me out to this really nice place and everything was going well
05:18:08
Gloss/Mixedand like it wasn't like the fanciest restaurant but like I was eating chicken with a knife and fork whatever and one of the wings were so small that I just picked it up and was going to eat it like not like in a pig way or whatever
05:18:19
Gloss/Mixedlike going in and he's like oh it's not that kind of place and I that that just like pissed me off so I mean it's not that crazy but you said that
05:18:31
Brian Atlasuh he was mock he's just essentially mocking the way you were eating yeah I just thought it was a little rude how were you eating just like she just explained it
05:18:41
Brian Atlaslike not let's see uh you uh okay we got we got Ruby we got to get to Ruby's notes uh you said you wanted
05:18:53
Brian Atlasto ask what do people consider cheating or toxic in a relationship you know what I consider toxic in a relationship if it's like I'm kicking it with a chick she's like it's like [ __ ] 10:30 and she's like I got to leave cuz I have to
05:19:04
Brian Atlaswork early tomorrow and I'm like bro you I thought we were going to kick it for at least another hour like that's what I feel like that's pretty toxic she
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TTS Readerboundaries wow that's toxic B donated $200 Gabby you are a legend Arizona is less cool without you yeah that's t look you got a nice
05:19:25
Brian Atlasmessage see even the chat wants you to say who is Brent Brooks is that a doctor that you had carinal knowledge with no did you smash Brent I did Dr Brooks was he was he an opthalmologist actually if
05:19:38
Brian Atlasthis is the think it is we did go on a date did you smash no let us know Brent what happened yeah what happened a blow she's like was like like okay sorry s
05:19:51
Brian Atlassorry that was inappropriate my bad my bad uh let's see uh Ruby you said I genuinely believe people don't date to Mary anymore and people just expect too much now such as fast reply shared
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Gloss/Mixedlocation yeah I feel like that's something I wanted to like ask you guys about um I feel like people nowadays
05:20:11
Gloss/Mixedum like like personally like I'll meet a guy
05:20:18
Gloss/Mixedand like they expect me to respond like within like a minute or two oh yeah yeah like and now like I feel like nowadays
05:20:30
Gloss/Mixedlike based off the stories my parents told me or like what like my family what I'm kind of like what I was educated on um um nowadays just people my age like
05:20:41
Gloss/Mixedthey expect too much they expect us to respond like this like or like they'll ask for your location right away it's like
05:20:52
Brian Atlaswhat I've never I don't know asked for the location I've never asked a girl for location girl ever asked you no why to come see you or no like no it's like
05:21:04
Gloss/Mixedsharing location requested on the iPhone I think they're scammers huh I think they're scammers if they do that no like these are people I've met like in real life so and like we're like talking like
05:21:15
Gloss/Mixedwe're already like let's say like I'm talking to this man and we're a month in he's already like hey so like since we're getting a little more serious I
05:21:26
Gloss/Mixedthink we should share locations I'm like what but he's talking about like Life 360 and I've had multiple multiple experiences wait what
05:21:37
SPEAKER_11360 what is that where you can track everything someone does like the time that the miles per hour they're going on the freeway like the time
05:21:47
Gloss/Mixedtheyve no we just have fine friends oh okay it's like not damn yeah like dating some toxic dudes no holy [ __ ] maybe
05:21:56
Gloss/Mixedmaybe it's the men I'm attracted to but honestly I like even my friends or even some family it's just people around my age yeah they they just expect too much
05:22:08
Gloss/MixedI feel like that's not normal wait what's your type of guy I don't I don't I don't know white guy black eyes no Mexicans no I I don't
05:22:19
Brian Atlashave a type I like everything you're open to anything yeah all right um the whole yeah the sharing location thing I've never I've never had a girl ask me
05:22:27
Brian Atlasfor that I've never asked that of a girl uh and then you said that the like expecting replies super fast yeah I feel
05:22:38
Gloss/Mixedlike come on we have like how how old are these guys they're in their 20s early 20s late
05:22:47
Gloss/Mixed20s early 20s yeah they didn't sound very busy yeah I mean yeah but like still what if I just wanted like to sit
05:22:58
Gloss/Mixedback and like you know I just got off my shift let's say I just want to watch Netflix or something I can't even lie about that anymore cuz you know they'll be like hey like why haven't you responded it's been it's been 30 minutes I'm like bro I'm watching my show oh
05:23:11
Gloss/Mixedthat's annoying like childish [ __ ] sometimes it takes me over a day to reply like yeah I'm more like 72
05:23:21
Gloss/Mixedhours feel like2 hours the expectations now are just insane I don't know yeah that's why I rather meet people like in real life and just you know I don't know
05:23:34
Brian Atlasdo you girls have you guys had that experience of like that's got to be kind of like almost scary for a girl like it makes me uncomfortable like as a guy if a girl's saying this [ __ ]
05:23:45
Brian Atlaslike if a girl's like getting on my case about not replying too quick or like it's literally been 30 minutes and or like one or two hours it's like I was doing some [ __ ] um but I feel like
05:23:57
Brian Atlasthat's got to be kind of scary for a girl you know like I don't know have you had that like a guy's like why didn't you respond it's so lame too it's like you're so lame you're just screaming I
05:24:07
Jakedon't have [ __ ] to do oh it's so lame like yeah but you've had that Yeah just they don't have a life have you had that
05:24:18
Brian Atlasyes didn't work outs I don't but like as a guy why would you do that because girls are probably way more sensitive to that than men are so it's just like
05:24:29
Gloss/Mixedyou're going to lose the girl I I feel like I don't know you want to you want to make it seem like the opposite like you don't really care you're doing your thing and they not care but like give people their space you know what I
05:24:41
Jakemean you want to make it seem like your mission and whatever you're doing in life is most important and then when like messaging is just sort of a side thing like I forgot you are you one of those people that think after a good day
05:24:53
Jakethat you have to wait two days before text it okay I think I just don't like playing games you know cuz like seven days a week I'm busy and if you want me to text you I don't really do small talk maybe one or two messages throughout the
05:25:05
Gloss/Mixedday but if it's like hey like what are you up to I'm like working go away from my experience I feel like the guys just think you're like doing the worst what do you mean like they think
05:25:17
Gloss/Mixedyou're th and plotting and trying like they I've never heard that th and plotting and TR they like that happened to me one time not with my current boyfriend but he he had my location and he was just like blowing up my phone and
05:25:28
GabbyI was like bro I'm at a work meeting like and he thought I was like keeping a secret or like I think guys that think that they're projecting cuz they're probably doing something that they
05:25:40
Gabbyshouldn't be doing cuz one of my exes he would always like be on my case at where I'm at and I worked a night shift as a nurse and he would be like oh like why are you sleeping all day like you're
05:25:51
SPEAKER_11always out and I'm like yeah I'm at work and like coming to find out he was cheating on me that didn't happen to me but like he didn't cheat on me I don't think he was doing anything and then
05:26:03
Brian AtlasRuby going back to you you said you're getting to know guy in a week into two us going on dates he told you he loved you yes oh my
05:26:12
Gloss/Mixedgosh I don't understand like why that was even said I feel like I don't know um you have to build a
05:26:23
Gloss/Mixedconnection in order to like love someone so like for them to say that or for anyone to well no judgment if you guys believe in that but like me personally
05:26:33
Gloss/Mixedlike you can't love someone you just sort of met like there have has to be a deeper connection so I don't know that was just so weird it threw me off and I was just like bro like you know what never mind
05:26:46
Gloss/Mixedlike you just gave me the biggest SI of my life damn and then you no I I played it cool I was like oh I was like I think I might have said thank
05:26:56
Brian Atlas[Laughter] you uh you said that uh one time you thought the guy you were in a situation with was going to take you out to dinner
05:27:06
Brian Atlasmhm he mentioned taking a quick stop he took you to a trap house to sell drugs to a bunch of bald men who were disrespectful
05:27:18
Brian Atlasinstead and then he took you straight home after he took you straight home afterwards yes that indeed did happen how many Bal men were there and was this like oh god there was more than five and
05:27:30
Gloss/Mixedthey were all bald that's what happen like I'm not I am not kidding they were all B I was like oh like this is commity they just
05:27:41
Gloss/Mixedall had had a nude knot all of them it was a community I believe interesting okay but that did happen like I'm not
05:27:50
Gloss/Mixedlying about that I hope he doesn't see this but yeah I really thought you know we were going to go out for dinner it was you know like probably like 8
05:28:01
Jakealready so I was like oh okay and he was mentioning like I'm picturing like Orcs in my head like Lord of the Rings ORS they were big too like they were big yeah going to your notes here you said
05:28:14
Brian Atlasyou used to date this guy that had two weed plants weed plants in the bed you asked multiple times if he could remove them but he always explained that the sun was best there for the plants I was so stupid and you were supposed to deal
05:28:27
Fiefwith it yeah I I I dated him for like two and a half years and I don't know why I allowed that but yeah yeah I would come to his place and there he he was
05:28:38
Fiefyou can have wheat plants in the Netherlands but I don't smoke wheed so I don't like the smell of the plants and one day they were in the bed and he
05:28:47
Fiefscooched the the mattress to the sides um so there was this tiny space to sleep yeah and I asked hey can you remove those when we were going to sleep
05:29:00
Fiefand he was like no because tomorrow morning the Sun starts there and that's good for the plants and I Stay interesting huh you said that you were
05:29:12
Fiefuh wait hold on there's a different one here uh you went with a guy to Kura is that how you say kurasa kurasa okay where he came from the same guy yeah so
05:29:23
Fiefhe he came from Kuro and his mom lived there and we were going to visit her for a month and then uh she would say like oh maybe you can bring Thief to this and that place that's really nice and he
05:29:35
Fiefwould be like a I've been there so many times already and he would just play poker in the house on his laptop uh but then his mom was super sweet so she would say like hey fief do you want to
05:29:46
Fiefwalk the dog with me and then she would say let's take the car and then she would bring me to all these places to show me how beautiful the islands was you said that uh you once you were on
05:29:58
Brian Atlasthe first date and he asked you what do you like to do you were super hyped about the New World of Warcraft expansion so you uh mentioned
05:30:08
Brian Atlaslower the volume 250 that I think can you lower the volume can you can you lower the
05:30:17
TTS Readervolume oh Des donated $1,000 wow pop champagne champagne pops for Mason and a big thanks to Brian for
05:30:27
Brian Atlasbeing the goat and helping me feed my kids wow that is a champagne Pop um W di Austin that hey yeah I never saw thought
05:30:37
Brian AtlasI guess that's W for Desiree there there she goes she's becoming a a whatever fan uh character is real oh my God Austin Austin can you grab a champagne and get
05:30:48
Brian Atlasalso I'm pretty sure she left I heard the door what the D okay rude
05:30:58
Brian Atlasuh okay um I was going to do this she she left right before the champagne po man she was but she left
05:31:09
Brian Atlasuh it's one you open by the hand yeah I don't I yeah just can just give me a paper towel if you can and we got some cups here yes thank you uh while we're
05:31:20
Fiefdoing that uh can you tell us the World of Warcraft story yeah so uh I got out of the relationship with the wheat plant guy and I was excited to date again and
05:31:32
FiefI remember I had this date uh with someone I believe it was a friend of a friend and they set us up so I went there and we sat down and he asked me
05:31:44
Fieflike oh what are you doing what's on your mind and at the time uh I think it was Legion or maybe the expansion before that but it was going to be get released for World of Warcraft and I was super
05:31:55
Fiefhyped about it and then I explained like oh there's this new expansion so in a few days that's going to happen and all new stuff are you going to pop it now yeah go keep going and then he said like
05:32:07
Fiefoh yeah get gaming is uh stupid for girls that's only something men should do and then uh the waiter came and he just ordered drinks and I was like [ __ ] I really don't want to sit here but we
05:32:18
Fiefwe talked a lot about him playing Call of Duty because he was also a gamer um and yeah and so he said what again he
05:32:29
Fiefsaid that uh gaming is for men and woman shouldn't game it's a waste of time but he was a gamer as well but I don't know what his logic
05:32:39
Brian Atlasand then you were so done with him after he said uh gaming was for men and women shouldn't game yeah uh well before I get into that because I really want to get
05:32:48
Brian Atlasinto that who wants some champagne is there alcohol on it yeah yes please all right all right she's she's she's being a good sport now we're
05:33:00
Brian Atlasgetting some alcohol all right uh here let me uh make a little or Maddie can you do the favors so only four or can you pour Jake you want you got to have a little desire
05:33:11
Brian Atlaschampag I don't drink but I I appreciate that Des it's going to a good cuse well done all right MD if you can pour the rest for the GS uh Ruby you can't have
05:33:21
Gabbyit champagne no thank champagne champagne champagne champagne yeah champagne champagne okay so two perfect we the bottle I don't need a whole
05:33:33
Brian Atlasbottle just these two yeah yeah there's a lot of uh so the whole video gaming thing I SW maybe you know what I'm talking about there was like this girl who oh man it
05:33:46
Fiefwas is he wrong I I don't know I've always been a gamer but I've had so many people tell me that it's a waste of time to
05:33:57
Fiefgame I don't know but that's now my job and I built this beautiful community so for me no and I know a lot of girls who also game I like it but well it's not I
05:34:08
Brian Atlasdon't think it's that like maybe this is the angle here is that so gaming is was more of a male
05:34:17
Brian Atlasspace and men are frequently losing kind of more male dominated spaces right cheers let's do quick cheers and then we'll get into the topic all right uh
05:34:30
Brian AtlasSalo thank you Desiree doomsday Desiree salute cheers cheers cheers cheers to a quick recovery fam yes and cheers to me uh to
05:34:39
Brian AtlasMason uh I'm sure he'll love that desire um so women go into male spaces and
05:34:50
FiefDestroy male spaces uh so maybe that's what he was saying yeah I don't know I I've never considered it a meal space because I mean I started gaming when I was like 11
05:35:02
Fiefor something when we had a PlayStation 2 I always played S63 and Tony Hawk Pro Skater and Heroes of Might and Magic 3 on the PC and it was always but these were all single players so I didn't meet
05:35:14
Brian Atlasother people I didn't know if there were male or female well I think the issue that men tend to have is if women wanted to come into their space I don't think they
05:35:25
Brian Atlaswould really care necessarily but what ends up happening is women will enter male spaces and start to try to police their
05:35:36
Brian Atlasconduct oh you can't make these kinds of jokes you can't talk this way they'll start policing the conduct yeah maybe a h bad experiences with his Call of Duty groups I don't
05:35:48
Brian Atlasknow you had bad experiences with Call of Duty groups he like he played Call of Duty so he yeah they just want to be on Call of Duty and [ __ ] talk [ __ ] to each other and be super toxic but you
05:35:59
Brian Atlasintroduce like a woman and then is she going to tolerate that level of toxicity she's going to start policing it she's going to start calling them sexist and all this stuff isn't this the like
05:36:09
Brian Atlasgenesis of gamergate too where I I don't know all the details of gamergate but like they just wanted to police Gamers isn't that what it was all
05:36:21
Fiefabout I don't know I thought gaming was all about just escaping world and enjoying your little fairy tale and play together with friends but yeah I don't
05:36:30
Fiefknow I I don't experience it as policing I also didn't talk to him that long after the first drink I left so I I never asked him why he told gaming
05:36:41
Fiefwasn't for women maybe I should have and then a story like that would have occurred I guess I don't know do you
05:36:51
Brian Atlasthink women should be Gamers I can be Gamers well of course you can be Gamers I have no objections to women playing video games what I object to is
05:37:03
Brian Atlasthe tendency for women to enter predominantly male spaces and instead of like trying to become one of the boys you're like the
05:37:14
Brian Atlasway you guys are conducting yourselves is wrong you need to change because now a woman is here that's the problem does that make sense yeah I guess I I think what you mean but I don't think that's
05:37:26
Fiefan issue in World of Warcraft at least not like how I experienced it I mean but I know for example valerant I played that for a little bit and I quit because the toxicity was was
05:37:37
Fiefso high and I didn't like all the go back to the kitchen kind of jokes so I just quit so I left them with
05:37:46
Brian Atlastheir toxicity in in valerant I suppose mhm yeah yeah I I mean I if women want to play video games that's I don't have any issues with it I think the issue
05:37:58
TTS Readerthat a lot of these video game guys have haale and well met LOL paladins donated $100 and2 women are absolutely welcome to game someone has to play the rest H
05:38:10
TTS ReaderShaman SL holy priest keeping my tank alive having a female in Guild changes the dynamic even if they aren't sleeping with Guild
05:38:23
Fieflead I do have say I know a lot of female healers in World of Warcraft we do need healers that's true I am also
05:38:31
Brian AtlasI'm a Holy Paladin so I am also a Healer so that stereotype I I kind of fit yeah well anyways totally cool with women gaming like that's totally cool
05:38:43
Brian Atlasit's just like when you come in and start trying to like police the way the [Music] men are were happily conducting themselves when it was mostly just meant
05:38:55
Brian Atlasit's like also didn't this happen in the corporate world too essentially but uh oh boy I'm going to get canceled for that one um but uh I mean is that what HR departments okay all right uh let's