150 Body Count At 18?! Yung Gravy Side Piece?! Cheater?! Hater CONFRONTS Brian?! | Dating Talk #248
Date: 2025-06-23
Duration: 8h 39m
Guests
Identified Speakers
SPEAKER_01Shula(guest)
SPEAKER_02Katarina Hammond(guest)
SPEAKER_03Chloe Yummy(guest)
SPEAKER_04Lucy Lotus(guest)
SPEAKER_05Lindsay Lee(guest)
SPEAKER_08David Patrick Harry(guest)
SPEAKER_10Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_11Audrey (DT248)(guest)
SPEAKER_12Anastasia(guest)
SPEAKER_13Jordan (Adoption)(guest)
Key Moments
00:00:08
IntroAll guests introduced
00:08:00
Key MomentChloe: was side piece for rapper Yung Gravy
00:15:00
Key MomentLucy Lotus: ~150 body count by age 18/19. Sex addict. Discovered porn at 8.
04:40:00
ControversyLindsay vs David Patrick Harry: femicide and male accountability heated debate
05:20:00
Key MomentShula performs feminist costume change (woke cosplay)
06:40:00
Key MomentBody count reveals: Lucy ~500, Lindsay 300+
Topics Discussed
00:00:08
Guest Introductions
Including Shula (Jewish Orthodox), Lucy Lotus (150 BC at 18), David (PhD Religious Studies).
00:10:00
Lucy 150 Body Count at 18
Self-identified sex addict. Discovered porn at 8. Lost virginity at 12.
00:40:00
Religion and Pair Bonding
David leads discussion from religious perspective.
04:40:00
Femicide and DV Debate
Lindsay vs David on male accountability for violence against women.
05:20:00
Shula Feminist Costume Change
Woke cosplay character, costume change mid-episode.
06:40:00
Body Count Reveals
Lucy ~500 total. Lindsay 300+. Chloe says 5 (previously 3).
07:30:00
Transgender Debate
Audrey: man dating trans woman is straight. David disagrees.
Transcript
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04:44:23
Brian Atlasbrutalizing and murdering all these women in South America. That's a large bulk the South Americans are a large bulk of the illegal immigrants coming into this uh country in addition to like you know you have like Central Americans
04:44:35
Brian Atlastoo and then you have like uh Mexicans also. So I would assume given the this like exorbitant rate of femicide and murder of women in these Latin American countries you're I think you're pointing
04:44:48
Brian Atlasto perhaps a culture where it's okay for like violence against women. You surely then to be consistent would not want this cohort of people illegally entering the country where they can victimize
04:45:00
Lindsay Leewomen in this country. I think just like every other country, America should have its own borders and enforce it. And I don't think that anyone is doing the right steps to actually solve the issue
04:45:11
Lindsay Leethat's really going on. I lived in Tucson and my grandma lives an hour from the border. I've seen how bad it actually is. You guys are actually a little sheltered over here from all that. California has like a massive you
04:45:22
Lindsay Leeimmigration. Yeah, but you don't see stuff that we see. Like it's pretty bad. But anyways, yeah, Tucson's uh should we deport legal immigrants? I think I think
04:45:32
Lindsay Leeif I think that Trump like when he was first saying all the violent ones and all the ones that have a record, I think that should be your priority. I'm fine with prioritizing them and but should we
04:45:43
Lindsay Leedeport all the illegal immigrants? By the time he gets done with deporting all the criminal ones, he's going to be out of office anyway. So, so you're okay then with all the other illegals being here is what you're saying? I'm not saying that, but I think they do need to
04:45:55
David Patrick Harryregister and actually work towards getting citizenship and if they're Why don't we just deport all of them and then allow them to apply the legal way and then we can vet everybody and look at their backgrounds and see where they're coming from because they know better because then we can make sure
04:46:08
Lindsay Leethey're not going to commit. Mexican government is not going to support them or like even provide resources for them like we do. That's literally why they're here. Why should we do that? Yeah. So that's not beneficial to me as an
04:46:19
Lindsay LeeAmerica heritage American and taxpayer. Yeah, that's totally that totally disenfranchises me. My thing is you're trying to get me to focus on something that I'm not even concerned with. I know, but he's he's making a logically
04:46:30
David Patrick Harryconsistent argument by saying you just described a problem in South America and he's saying, okay, well, here's a culturally relevant topic to America. There was one event when I'm trying to give you examples that because you're
04:46:42
Brian Atlasshifted, but hold on. You're saying I shifted it, which I could dispute, but you shifted it because I was saying men hold men accountable and you want to move to like, okay, this specific thing
04:46:52
Brian Atlasin South America where perhaps law enforcement is not nearly as uh as effective as as it is in the United States where we enjoy uh where where law
04:47:03
Brian Atlasenforcement has far more resources and is far more sophisticated than law enforcement in third world countries. It was one example that I was going to
04:47:13
Lindsay Leegive you in concurrence with other ones like the fact that the child trafficking industry is a multi-billion dollar industry. I mean tripledigit billion dollar industry every year around the
04:47:24
David Patrick Harryworld and people like Tim Tibo speak on that. And it's men who are the consumers. I'm not saying who do we go after with that industry? Hold on. With that industry, who do we go after? the people that are selling humans for sex
04:47:37
David Patrick Harrytrafficking and the consumers of sex trafficking because it gets back to the corn industry in regards to not holding actually it's the government who's bribed to have those kids that make them disappear. The CIA is
04:47:50
Lindsay Leetotally in bed with all these operations drug trafficking. It's all within the government that has nothing to do with corn is a distraction. Okay, we're all distracted. All the media is owned by Black Rockck and they just tell you
04:48:01
Lindsay Leewhatever it is you actually hear. We're not getting into all of that. You're just seeing what they want you to see. My point being, it's not all men, but it is a lot of men who are doing these
04:48:12
Lindsay Leethings. And I don't see from particular in 2025. In 2025, you can change your gender. You can get married to someone. I'm saying you can do all these things,
04:48:24
Lindsay Leebut why are we still facing femicide in the world? Why are we still facing all of these issues that shouldn't be like prevalent anymore? the women are half of the world population and yet we're the
04:48:35
Brian Atlasones who are always being raped, you know, killed, etc. Like, why is no one standing up for that? You do realize that men are disproportionately more likely to be victims of violent crime.
04:48:48
Brian AtlasThey're more likely to be murdered from each other. It's still men on men. Yeah. So, it's still men that are the problem. Okay. Happy to engage there, but you're going
04:48:59
Brian Atlasto have to concede with me that my point is true first. Which point? That men are more likely to be victims of violent crime. Yeah. And it's from other men. Okay. Why would that matter? That sounds like victim blaming. It's a total red
04:49:10
Brian Atlasherring. What would that matter? The gender of the perpetrator has no impact on the victim. If I'm dead and the person who killed me is a man or the
04:49:21
Lindsay Leeperson who killed me as a woman, does that make me any more or less dead? No, I'm saying that if it were a bunch of women graping and killing men that it would be a huge issue. But because it's the other way around, it's just normal
04:49:34
Brian Atlasand expected. And I don't see that people are standing up for it as much as they do for other things. Wait, hold on. Murder murder of women by men is far
04:49:44
Shulamore is taken far more seriously than murder of men by men. Um, can I say something? Um, so I don't understand. Maybe she means that like women are weaker than men. So like as a
04:49:57
Shulaman you can protect yourself from another man like if you know something like that happens but as a woman like I can't really protect they are very vulnerable. Yeah. Women are more
04:50:08
Lindsay Leevulnerable even if even if men get killed more than women basically. What? Well because men claim they're supposed to be our protectors but then why would all those women be killed by
04:50:19
Brian Atlasfemicide? Because they can't protect themselves. And so men are supposed to be if we want to talk about violence then I'm like and I think you're framing as really bad faith. I can be uncharitable too although like probably
04:50:32
Brian Atlassome people are going to agree with me like women are overwhelmingly killing their children in the womb through and you kill baby you kill babies of any gender like what is it 70 million a year
04:50:45
Brian Atlasabortions. Is it really men that are so violent? Like at least, you know, when it comes to male violence, there's often there's typically components of like, you know, there's some [ __ ] beef or like gang violence or something. No, even though
04:50:58
Brian Atlassome of that stuff is like completely arbitrary and stupid, y'all are literally killing unborn children. So, who's more monstrous? the men like
04:51:09
Brian Atlasthe men who are like in involved in gang violence and like street beefs over like who can sell smack on the street corner or women who are unaliving their really
04:51:19
Lindsay Leereally defenseless unborn children right they were complicit in making when was the last time you heard about a female student at a university graing a man and
04:51:30
Lindsay Leethen still getting to graduate do you want to answer my question first no I'm saying like you you like to redirect the conversation which I totally respect and I will follow. You redirect the You're the one throwing out all these red
04:51:43
Brian Atlasherrings, but okay. What? Let's hear your other stating that are actually published. Tell me the next men bad thing. Go ahead. I'm not saying all men. Okay. What percent? That's where you're
04:51:56
Brian Atlasmissing the point. Okay. What What's the the the university? What is it? Tell me the university example. Go ahead. I'm just saying that you said something about being able to walk at graduation. Tell me the example. When the roles are reversed,
04:52:09
Lindsay Leemen are going to stick up for other men and be like, "Oh, we're not going to take that from women." But then when it's happening to women, we're supposed to be submissive. Hold on, wait, wait, hold on. I can stand for I can disprove that. First off, I do want to hear your
04:52:20
Brian Atlasexample about the like being able to walk for graduation in prison where the population is made up entirely of criminals. There can be murderers in there. Murderers live among murderers.
04:52:32
Brian AtlasBut if you go into general population in a prison and you're you're uh they call it chomo, if you're um you you touch women or you touch children or whatever it is, you're you've got a [ __ ]
04:52:44
Brian Atlastarget on your back and if you step foot in general population, you will be dead within 24 hours at the hands of the other inmates. So even criminal men who
04:52:53
Brian Atlashave questionable virtue even they are going to literally kill like vigilante justice will kill rapists and they will
04:53:05
Brian Atlaskill uh people who touch children. Yeah. So this idea that men won't hold other men accountable. The justice system is very effective. And then on in addition to that there's extra judicial
04:53:17
Brian Atlaspunishment if these do men do find themselves uh in prison and in a certain situation with uh inmate. These guys got targets on their backs. Trust me. So this idea that rape like there's a grape
04:53:29
Brian Atlasculture where it's accepted or that there's like a culture where this these crimes are the most abort crimes ever. And trust me, most men would gladly like
04:53:40
Brian Atlaswill gladly kill a PDF file. They'll gladly kill a rapist. Oops, shouldn't have said that. My bad. Whatever. Yes, in the US, absolutely. But I mean,
04:53:51
Lindsay Leeon a worldwide scale, no matter where we are, women are still going to be like at the bottom of the food chain when it comes to Wait. Oh my. Okay. Can Can you
04:54:02
Lindsay Leetell me the walking at the What was the example you prov you gave? There was a uh college I don't even remember his name, but this was four years ago. this college athlete. It's
04:54:13
Lindsay Leejust the example I'm giving you to portray what I'm talking about. He had graped her at a party on the university grounds, right? But because
04:54:24
Lindsay Leeum it was a party and they didn't want to uh like say that, you know, he actually did it because he was their star [ __ ] athlete on this team. He
04:54:35
Lindsay Leegot to walk on his graduation. He didn't do any jail time and it basically just all was done. Did she go to the police? Yes. Okay. She did the whole kit and
04:54:46
Brian Atlaseverything. Do you So, there was an accusation that was made. what evidence was presented that it actually occurred besides just the His
04:54:58
Lindsay LeeDNA was found and his his defense attorney was arguing that oh well because there was alcohol at the party who's to know if she gave him consent or not. Well, fair enough. Even though it was outside behind a trash can and
04:55:11
Brian Atlassomebody found him doing it. But anyways, wait, are you talking about the uh he's a swimmer? I think I know the case that you're talking about. The affluenza case. Is that what you're
04:55:23
Brian Atlastalking about? Or no, that was a DUI case, I think. Yeah. No, there's some kid, rich kid who like I think killed somebody in a DUI and got off left got
04:55:33
Lucy Lotusoff really easil easily. That sounds like a I don't know. I don't know the specifics. I mean, just on even like a smaller scale, like a way smaller scale, like let's say you went to Macy's, like
04:55:45
Lucy Lotusshe did yesterday, and you went to go shopping and a guy came up to you and was like, "Hey, Brian, like what's up? Like, I watch your stuff, whatever." Like, are you thinking that he's going
04:55:55
Lucy Lotusto like flash his dick at you? Like, but don't you think that that happens like to women if you walking garage as a woman and it's night time and there's a guy behind you, you get chills up your
04:56:08
Brian Atlasback, do you know? Yeah. So, so do I. Cool. Men are men are victims of violent crime. I don't I don't know if you guys know this. Men get jumped. Men get
04:56:18
Brian Atlasrobbed. I've been the victim of a violent crime. Uh so this idea that men can just like they blindly just walk through the world without a care in the like no cares and they just can walk at
04:56:30
Brian Atlasnight without feeling unsafe. I've been walking in situations where I felt unsafe. Right. Would you go on a hike alone? Depends on where. Sure. Yeah. Women go on hikes alone, too. I mean, yeah,
04:56:43
Brian Atlasthere's three of them that got un alive in Phoenix. Okay. Bad thing happened to woman. Bad. But I do, you mentioned that there was DNA for this like example that you provided. So, let me ask you a question. So, if somebody's had uh a
04:56:56
Brian Atlasconsensual sexual encounter, is it plausible that they're going to find the other person's DNA on them? So, you're assuming it's consensual. I'm innocence until proven guilty. Do
04:57:07
Lindsay Leeyou disagree with innocence until proven guilty? You're saying that when she claimed that this was consensual? Hold on. I don't know
04:57:17
Brian Atlasthe specific case you're referencing, you just gave me a vague thing where it sounds like there was a police investigation. They made some determination that there wasn't enough
04:57:28
Brian Atlasevidence or something to proceed. If that that if that is actually the case, don't you believe in innocent until proven guilty?
04:57:40
Lindsay LeeI do. Doesn't sound like it. But what I'm saying is when things like that happen, it's just common and it's water
04:57:49
Brian Atlasunder the bridge and we men's okay, it's not just water under the bridge. Men's lives get ruined and even just based off a dubious accusation. But not really. We
04:58:01
Lindsay Leehave one in office right now. What did he do? Dubious. What do you mean? Did he grab him by the [ __ ] What did he do? Exactly. Can we Can you Can you imagine? It's
04:58:14
Brian Atlasliterally a completely If somebody else had said that, it's a totally dubious I don't know if you investigated the accusations against Trump. extremely dubious accusations. There's a
04:58:27
Brian Atlasvid a voice recording. What are you talking about? Hold on. Are you talking about the the civil case that he had? I'm talking about from his first election that came out. We can come to
04:58:37
Brian AtlasTrump. But first, I want to I want to ask though, if they find DNA, does that mean that a crime occurred? because I've had unprotected sex with my
04:58:49
Brian Atlasgirlfriend and if she went and got a DNA test, they would find DNA of me, but they were not dating. She did not know him and it was a party with a bunch of
04:59:00
Lindsay Leeother people. Is it plausible that they had a consent consensual sexual encounter? Is it plausible? I'm not saying it's it's not a possibility. He's saying that she got too drunk and
04:59:12
Lindsay Leeshe can't remember that she said no. But when the guy found him, so they went to a college party and they hooked up. No, they didn't. Both. She showed up and he was one of the guests there. Wait, can I ask you a question? You can't give
04:59:24
Lucy Lotusconsent if you're intoxicated. That's like when you're when you're past the point of certain intoxication there. If you're incapacitated, but if you've had a beer, is that great? No, this girl is
04:59:36
Brian Atlaspassed out in the trash cans. Well, that's Yeah, that's the case I'm talking about. Okay. A new detail that you didn't previously said a guy. Yes. If you have sex with a woman who's passed
04:59:48
Brian Atlasout, that's great. I said that they were outside by the two or three shots on top of her. If you both had two or three shots. Wait, let me ask you guys a
04:59:57
Lindsay Leequestion. Uh, if the guy is more drunk than the woman, is she a rapist? If he didn't give consent, yeah, I think it goes both ways. Yeah, it definitely is.
05:00:08
Brian Atlasa woman, if you can't consent, it's it's grape. But, okay, I'm trying to understand this because there are narratives out there that if you've had any level of alcohol consumption, you no longer can consent.
05:00:21
Audrey (DT248)So, where is the threshold? Where is the actual line? If you're not coherent, you can't like answer a yes or no question. Like, and if you're I don't know. I feel like the line is clear and you should know before you get drunk. Like it
05:00:34
Audrey (DT248)shouldn't be if like if if I was hooking up with someone and they got drunk and they said yes, I probably wouldn't even hook up with them then. That's what I'm saying. Like I think that you should give permission beforehand or not hook up with someone who's blackout drunk or drunk at all cuz then
05:00:46
Lucy Lotusyou that's where the line responsibilities on women for getting blackout drunk and going to situations in which that area is such a great area. It's like we're just going to go back and forth back and forth back and forth. Like it's just a gray area honestly. Wait, so what
05:00:59
David Patrick Harrywas your say that again? What did you say? I said, "What's the responsibility on women getting trashed and getting drunk in in environments where that stuff can happen?" Exactly. So, in what regard like what are you saying? I mean, if if you go out and you just have a
05:01:10
David Patrick Harrydrink or two and you still have your senses about you, I mean, the likelihood of something like that happening is going to be much less. But I think at that point, if it does happen to them, it's not like about the woman like if
05:01:23
Audrey (DT248)she was responsible enough or not. She shouldn't have gone blackout drunk. Like, that shouldn't have happened in general. like like that shouldn't even be a question in that scenario in my opinion like if she was responsible if a woman got drunk but she was not
05:01:35
Brian Atlasincapacitated as almost any girl who's ever been to college ever has done and then she
05:01:43
Lucy Lotusregrets it the next day is that great no but that's not why are you why are you making that face that's not that I see what you're saying that happens with
05:01:55
Lucy Lotuseverything I see what you're saying that does happen a lot. Girls will say that and that's why girls don't have as much credibility. Yes. About when they say that's why people don't believe girls as
05:02:06
Lucy Lotusmuch because those situations happen and then these guys lives are ruined over a situation where they thought it was completely consensual and that's why it's a gray area. But yes, guys lives
05:02:17
Lucy Lotuswill be ruined and that's why girls credibility is just like completely gone to [ __ ] when it comes to grape and that is just something that will forever be the case. And it's never going to
05:02:28
Lindsay Leechange. I just want, you know, for the next generation, like I want both women and men to feel like they're safe, they're respected by the other gender and that like they don't have to feel
05:02:40
Lindsay Leelike, oh my gosh, I can't even walk to my car at night without, you know, being at risk of something happening. And I don't think that's an unfair ask. So
05:02:53
Brian Atlastouchy subject, I know, but it's because got into. But you guys are men. You'll never be in our shoes. So you won't go. Okay, hold on. Women Okay, there's all
05:03:03
Brian Atlasthese stories of like female teachers taking advantage of their like junior high school students, elementary school students. This is a super common occurrence. It's not like it it's
05:03:14
Brian Atlasdownplayed to the to quite an extent. Uh I think I personally think it's abhorent. Whereas like if it's a male teacher, female student, that's just major major deal. It's looked at through
05:03:26
David Patrick Harrya completely different lens. Men are victim victimized too. It's just I don't know. It's kind of and their sentences are worse. I mean recently I've been following there's been a handful. I mean every week you can find a news article about a female teacher sleeping with her
05:03:39
David Patrick Harrystudents and it's becoming more and more common. I mean just go do a Google search you'll find tons and tons of articles and then do it based on dates and you'll see how frequently this is. And then you look at the sentencing in
05:03:49
David Patrick Harryregards to them versus if a adult male did that with the same age female. the sentencing is way different and they're they're punished much harder and it should be the same. It should be the same. That's like more with the courts
05:04:01
David Patrick Harrylike not like what she's saying. But it's a cult it's a just a cultural disposition that we have that needs to change in regards to how these dynamics work. Yeah.
05:04:14
Audrey (DT248)I don't even know where we were we were talking about. Great there. Next question. No, like before. No, no, that that even led to that. Well, I think everything started to spiral once we heard about femicide
05:04:26
Brian Atlasor something like I know ruined the moods. Well, I get the impression that you like it sounded like from what you told us before like you you view things through
05:04:37
Lindsay Leethis paradigm of through your own trauma. No, I have my mother is a domestic violence victim advocate and my little sister worked for CPS and she firsthand saw all these things happening.
05:04:48
Brian AtlasOh, okay. So, it's not from my No, but it is your paradigm. Like you view things in a very like biased sort of victim way. It's not a
05:04:59
David Patrick Harryvictim. It's experience. Well, do you have animosity towards men? I mean, one of the things because you mentioned you're kind of proud about one out of every four women like stay single for the rest of your life and that's a
05:05:10
David Patrick Harrygoal that you hope to uphold. And it sounds like just based on everything you keep saying, it's a lot of fingers being pointed at men. And it sounds like maybe that colors why even you have no interest in long-term relationships or
05:05:22
Lindsay Leemarriage. No, I just think that she's just lost a lot of hope. Yeah. Yeah, I've lost hope for sure. Do Do you think we should believe all women? No,
05:05:35
Lindsay Leewe're all human like I was saying before, but obviously there are physical differences between Yeah, I know. like trust no one. Trust no one. Xiles had it right.
05:05:46
Audrey (DT248)Oh my gosh. Anyh who, what other questions are on that list? Okay.
05:05:57
Brian AtlasDamn, bro. I shouldn't take the bait, chat. I [ __ ] hate Oh my god. I So [ __ ] frustrating. I take the bait and it's such a [ __ ] buzzkill to talk
05:06:07
Brian Atlasabout this topic. Okay. All right. Thank you. Um, will you talk about dick size again? Yeah. Yeah. Um, okay. Uh, moving
05:06:16
Brian Atlason. I guess Jordan, um, you mentioned using men to take away your loneliness. Yeah. I mean, is that what you did? I
05:06:25
Jordan (Adoption)didn't use men. I guess that's that was wrong wording. Um, you know, I mean, I would find worth in attention and the
05:06:37
Jordan (Adoption)way a guy would treat me or do things for me or buy things or love me in a sense. Um, and I didn't like being
05:06:47
Jordan (Adoption)alone. Um, I had to teach myself what it was like to be alone and be content and happy in singleness. Um, but yeah, I
05:06:57
Jordan (Adoption)would I would meet a new guy. I would go out. I would talk to random people and um used it to fulfill myself for a bit.
05:07:10
Brian AtlasOkay. Uh, Shula, do you want to put on your costume or whatever? Um, I guess. All right, she's gone. And then I'll get into your notes when you do that. Uh, Pr
05:07:21
Brian AtlasWait, is your name What's your name? Princess. Oh, cuz your name is Prince. That's your Instagram. Yeah, I had to change it cuz I got hacked by Audrey. Yes, sir. Hold on. We have a TTS coming
05:07:33
SPEAKER_00through. [Music] Sin Magic 14 donated $200 to the female panelists. I speak for
05:07:44
SPEAKER_00every man I know, met, or ever heard about. If we see that grape going down in the parking lot, yes, we will unal alive that particular person. That [ __ ]
05:07:54
Brian Atlasdoesn't slide. Facts. Well, that makes me feel better. Nice. Facts. You're a good person. There seems to be this like warped perception that like if a man saw
05:08:07
Katarina Hammondsomething like that happening like he would cheer for it. Like that just isn't the case. Some guys just don't understand what's going on though. Like they might see it and then be like, "Oh, whatever." And then just keep walking
05:08:18
David Patrick Harrycuz they think it's like both sided. Well, if a woman's yelling help and that's going down, like it's going to be pretty obvious. But if a woman is being raped and there's no you like cry out for help, I mean, how could somebody
05:08:31
Katarina Hammondknow? And it certainly then appears to be consensual. But like if a girl is like passed out or whatever, they might just think like that they're both doing it consensually.
05:08:42
David Patrick HarryI just don't know any men to the super chatter's point. I don't know any men in my circle that would be okay with that or would turn a blind eye to that. even if they're like my friends if if we heard of each other abusing our spouses
05:08:54
David Patrick Harryor something like that's just not okay and we would hold absolutely hold each other accountable. So I don't to the to the super chatter's point I just don't see this phenomenon where men aren't holding men accountable. There's we don't live in a utopia and so there's
05:09:08
David Patrick Harryalways going to be crime. There's always going to be these bad things but on average I think men are much better than the panel has generally presented how men are and how we interact with each
05:09:18
Audrey (DT248)other. Uh, you had a book full of notes. Oh, well, I had to be honest. I was hoping I mean, love you as a guest, but if Andrew
05:09:28
Audrey (DT248)was on, I was about to flame that man. So, my notes are mainly my notes were mainly for that man. So, we'll keep the notebook closed. But also, why he brings you down so many points? Why do you keep having that guy on? Andrew's all he's
05:09:41
Audrey (DT248)actually a good friend of mine. I'm friends with Andrew and Rachel. Oh, god. I was at his I was at his baptism with his family. He's a He's actually a great guy. Youard some of the stuff he said. He's really mean to me. Well, hold on. And I just feel like if you want your
05:09:54
Audrey (DT248)career to last long, I would ditch that man to the side. Just saying. Cuz I don't think you're truly a bad man. But Andrew, he is a good man. I will defend Andrew. I'm personally friends with him and I know he's a good man. So So we're talking about how Okay. Do you think Andrew would Okay. Did you hear the
05:10:07
David Patrick Harrything he was talking about grape? Saying that some women think it's pleasurable. What? What do you mean this thing? That's a huge thing. That's awful. Aren't aren't aren't aren't grape fantasies like a huge bestselling like sex novels for women? So if you think it
05:10:21
Brian Atlasabsolutely but do you think in the actual moment hold on hold on before we get into that you're completely mischaracter first off you didn't really precisely state what Andrew said oh I don't think in any you just said did you
05:10:34
Audrey (DT248)hear what he said about grape what did he say about grape he I'm saying in any context to say those words how he was saying that some women find it pleasurable I don't think any woman even if they have a grape fantasy
05:10:45
Brian Atlasmisrepresenting did you watch did you watch the Hold on. Stop, stop, stop, stop. Let me finish. Did you watch the extremely selectively
05:10:55
Audrey (DT248)edited clip or did you actually go perhaps that's the first thing you saw? Did you go and watch the full exchange? I saw the the full not like hours before and after, but I'm saying even to say like I saw some of the points after and
05:11:08
Audrey (DT248)before. I'm saying to even say that is insane. Like that for that to come out of his mouth even as a like argument is crazy. Okay. But also a lot of the other things since you saw the full thing, you must surely know the full context. No, I
05:11:20
Brian Atlassaid I I saw parts before and after, not the Yeah. What? So, okay. What are the parts before and after? And what was the context of the conversation? Just the one that the context I'm saying is that when he said that like he was trying to
05:11:32
Brian Atlascompare it to something else. Can Can I ask you a question? I think I was wait. You were definitely not there. It was during a flight. Hold on, hold on, hold
05:11:40
Brian Atlason. So, if I were to say, "I think it's bad to call black people the n-word." Now, let's say somebody clipped it and started it where I say, "Call black
05:11:53
Brian Atlaspeople the n-word as if it was an advocation that you should call black people the n-word." You would agree that that would be disingenuous editing, right? But that's on a different cut. Like, there was more. It's not it's not
05:12:04
Brian Atlasa precise onetoone, but the clip was selectively edited. In this case, he was asking the guy a hypothetical question
05:12:12
Brian Atlasto test his um to basically test his logic. Yeah. Are you that's what you're saying? Me person me personally, I would have
05:12:23
Audrey (DT248)perhaps used a different uh hypothetical, but he wasn't making an advocation for great. No, that's what I'm saying. Even if he's not saying that, like the person to say that is crazy. I don't care. Like that's what I'm saying. You're saying he used that
05:12:36
Audrey (DT248)as an example. to use that as an example is insane to me. I don't care what the example was. Like we can agree to disagree or whatever, but I'm saying like even whatever he said before and after to say that sentence is crazy to me. I don't care what he was saying
05:12:49
Audrey (DT248)before and after. And that's okay if you disagree with me. And I just think he is character he shows a lot of things. The way he lashes out at people, all the things that he does during the show, like there's a little much, but hope
05:13:00
Brian Atlashope for the best for him. He was te Okay. The guy was basically saying in some cases, uh, XY. Okay. The guy he was debating against.
05:13:11
Brian AtlasDid you see this clip? Do you know what she's talking about? I do. I forget the guy that he was debating though. Yeah. So, where the [ __ ] Sorry, my phone just went off. Let me turn that off. Okay.
05:13:23
Brian AtlasThe guy was saying, well, in in some instances, here's an exception, then X, right? Are you you I'm just listening. It was
05:13:34
Brian Atlasmy listening sense. Right. And so Andrew used he wasn't making an advocation for what he was talking about. He was saying, "Well, in your world view, would this logically this would have to be the
05:13:48
Audrey (DT248)case if you're making this sort of argument, right?" Mhm. Yeah. I don't think even then he should use that like topic. I think he could have used something else. But that's the point of the hypothetical is to go extreme to highlight a point. I understand. I think
05:14:00
Audrey (DT248)that's a little too extreme. But that's okay if you it's okay if you guys don't agree. You don't have to laugh at me. That's just how I laugh at you. And I think also the same man who like talks about how women are stronger and this and that. Like all these things he says
05:14:12
David Patrick Harrylike aren't like Wait, women are men are you can't you believe that men have a monopoly on physical violence? Don't you believe that we have a monopoly on physical violence? We're physically stronger. Like if every man wanted to
05:14:24
David Patrick Harrysubjugate women, all women, and and the whole world was divided upon those lines, hypothetical. Yes. Men could do that. Thank God. Thank God. Oh my gosh. What?
05:14:36
ShulaThank God. Men could do that, right? We got the feminist back at the table. Oh my gosh. Shut up. Oh my gosh. Yeah, that's that's my character that I created. Feminist.
05:14:48
Brian AtlasThat's what it is. Wait, did you put on like black? Wait, why is that actually really good? That's so funny. That's kind of funny. I can't lie. Uh maybe I should have done the notes, your notes before we get got into that. Um Wait.
05:15:00
Brian AtlasOkay. But really quick, what what were your other things for Andrew? Oh, well, I'm not saying because he's not here, so like I'm not gonna Okay, give me one. Give me one. No, that I'm just saying I'm not going to Can I say something about Hold on one sec. Do you think you
05:15:13
Audrey (DT248)you were saying that he thinks men are physically stronger than women? No, the fact that he's like dies on this hill that men are stronger than women and can't open a pickle jar. Crazy. And like just so that's crazy. That's crazy. That's kind
05:15:25
Brian Atlasof crazy. How's that crazy? Because he's like men are stronger than women. Wait, let me ask you a question. And then he's trying to blame it on the reason. Let me ask you a question. A quadrip If a quadripollegic who has no use of their upper body at all, that's not the point
05:15:39
Brian Atlashe's made. Just listen. If a quadripolgic said who who he doesn't have any use of his arms, so he's really physically weak. Said that men are stronger than
05:15:51
Audrey (DT248)women. Would he be wrong for saying that because he can't even lift a pen? No, I'm saying it's just funny. Like I'm not saying it's like this. I'm saying it's funny. Not like it is funny. The man who says that. But okay. But is he wrong
05:16:03
Audrey (DT248)about Is the argument still true? Argument is still true. There's other things I'm not going to list cuz he's not here. So I'm not going to even get into that. But I'm saying I'm saying as a comment it's funny. Cuz it is funny. It's funny. That's funny. Well, the whole thing was Sure. It was very
05:16:16
Brian Atlashilarious. Yes, it was funny. To be fair, you have to tap the top of the the jar. I think that's the thing. You have to tap it or tap the side or some [ __ ] I don't know. Um here we have some chats
05:16:27
Brian Atlascoming through. Uh then we'll finish up some of the notes. Here we have uh no step on
05:16:34
SPEAKER_00hold on. Thank you, man. No step on donated $199. If a guy drinks and then makes the
05:16:45
SPEAKER_00decision to drive and gets a DUI, regrets it, is he responsible for the DUI and or wreck or should he not be responsible cause he was too drunk to consent? What?
05:17:00
Lindsay LeeYeah, it doesn't compare. Yeah. Do you want to answer it though? It's not even a valid comparison because he it's just involving himself. There's no other party.
05:17:15
David Patrick HarryOkay. Do you want to answer it though or so? He he chose to get drunk, he has a DUI. I mean, if the girl got drunk and she got DUI, it's still her. Well, in the instance, he got a wreck. So, just to steal me on the super chat, let's say
05:17:27
David Patrick Harrysomebody else was involved and hurt and there was a wreck. Sorry, I can't. Would would that be the the super chatters try to make the point about responsibility? the thing that I
05:17:39
David Patrick Harrymentioned earlier um about being in the situation and then consenting and taking all those drinks. He's highlighting obviously extreme example. Well, let's say a man is inebriated, drives and
05:17:50
David Patrick Harryactually wrecks into somebody, alters their life or causes harm to them. If he can't consent, uh just like a woman says she can't consent when she's inebriated, is it the same thing? I think that's the steelman position of what he's trying to
05:18:02
Lindsay Leesay. But he's still the one committing an act towards the other person. So, it's still not a valid example because I'm just trying to steal man what the super chat about. I'm not here to I mean it's like saying so what so women should never be allowed to get drunk at a party
05:18:15
Brian Atlasperiod. Wait, can I ask can I ask a question on this? And I I actually don't know what the uh let's say that there's a woman who and I I don't drink so I'm not really familiar. I've never been
05:18:27
Brian Atlaslike blackout drunk, but couldn't isn't it possible that you could be blackout drunk but come across externally
05:18:36
Brian Atlaslucid? Yes. Yes. Like you would like somebody might not know that you're blacked out. Not that I experienced
05:18:45
Brian Atlasthat. Yeah. But so arguably though, like from their perspective, you come across as just any other like
05:18:55
Brian Atlasnormally normally drunk person, but under your guys's definition, this guy has just committed a rape. Is that correct? if he has sex with her,
05:19:07
Brian Atlasbut he doesn't know that she's incapacitated and she doesn't indicate to him in any way while she's blackout drunk. Like, she's moving around and she's I mean, you know how people are when they're
05:19:20
Lucy Lotusdrunk, right? this exact situation has happened to me and I woke up the next day and was like, well, I maybe shouldn't have put myself kind of it's like it's like a half and
05:19:30
Lucy Lotushalf thing in that situation cuz I'm like I I must have in that moment said yes and I regretted it. Highly regretted it and felt depressed about it. But
05:19:41
Lucy Lotuslike, do I need to go ruin that guy's life because he I gave him full consent because I look like I am the kind of person if I get blackout drunk, which I
05:19:51
Brian Atlasdon't tend to do that often, but if I do it, I look completely normal and I like act normal. But like under your sense of
05:20:01
Brian Atlaswhat constitutes that crime, would that has a grape occurred? But that wasn't the example I I was giving. I'm just Okay. Well, I'm giving
05:20:12
Lindsay Leeyou this example. I'm saying that it can be like if she gave consent and was blacked out, that's something where she she's got to
05:20:24
Lindsay Leetalk to a therapist and she's got to figure that out. But I don't think he should be accused of grape if she gave full consent while she was. But you would argue that a grape did occur or didn't? I'm saying if she if she
05:20:37
Brian Atlasverbally had told him something that gave him the impression of concern, she was very enthusiastically having sex with him. Okay. Right. Yeah. But she was
05:20:46
Brian Atlasand he but he was not aware of her level of incapacitation. She appeared to be normally drunk. Right. So he wasn't he wasn't intentionally committing that
05:20:58
Lindsay Leeagainst her will then. And that's not gripe because the men the men who if she's knocked out or she did not give you consent or she's blackout drunk and still hasn't given you consent, you
05:21:10
Brian Atlasshouldn't be assuming anything and taking opportunity. Okay. But I think that's just safer for everybody. But what if so that woman
05:21:19
Brian Atlascould wake up and similar to uh what Lucy said just be like oopsie or she could wake up and be like what the [ __ ] am I doing here?
05:21:29
Lindsay LeeI don't remember anything. I was raped. Was she graped? I think it again goes to the consent because if he let's assume that if he's
05:21:40
David Patrick Harryignoring like the the talltail signs that oh she's not able to tell me yes or she's severely in her example. She says that she's fairly lucid when she gets that way. So just using her as the
05:21:51
David Patrick Harryexample, obviously not her specifically, but that example, right? And say that she is lucid and and she maybe signals consent and the guy doesn't know that she's totally blackout, not going to
05:22:02
Lucy Lotusremember any of this. Is he guilty of rape? Signals consent. I think it's a case by case basis, honestly, because I'm aware that that happens to me. Like I'm aware that I get blackout and I I
05:22:13
Lucy Lotusseem totally normal to the the or not normal but you know like a normal drunk um to the person that I'm talking to. Like I'm aware that that happens to me. Um because it like runs in my family.
05:22:24
Lucy LotusWe're all kind of like we can hold down our liquor. I'm Irish but um um so we're kind of I'm I'm just like that. But so it's happened, you know, more than once and I haven't, you know,
05:22:37
Lucy Lotusgone to the like even the first time it happened. Like I didn't go to the police the next day. I just it was just shitty. Like it's just shitty to it. You regret it. It's it's like deep regret and you
05:22:49
Lucy Lotusjust never talk about that guy again or you tell your friends like, "Hey, you know, this happened with this guy." But like to go to the police, I think it's just a case by case basis. If someone if a girl doesn't realize how she gets when
05:23:02
Lucy Lotusshe gets drunk and let's say she's like 18, 19 or whatever age she starts drinking and she has no idea how she's going to get when she gets drunk and she's unaware of how she is when she's
05:23:12
Lucy Lotusdrunk then that would be considered great because she's not she's unaware. I'm hyper aware of how I get when I get drunk. So who am I to go and ruin a
05:23:23
Brian Atlasguy's life? Like that is just a [ __ ] up situation. But isn't it couldn't it be plausible that you know when people go off to college many of these people like didn't
05:23:34
Brian Atlasdrink or didn't drink very much at college people go out they binge drink quite heavily both men get super drunk women get super drunk I mean people perhaps do things that
05:23:47
Brian Atlasthey wouldn't have done when they were sober but I I can definitely envision scenarios where maybe the guy got more drunk the guy was blackout and the girl
05:23:57
Brian Atlaswas Like she was there. She had a [ __ ] white claw and the dude's like 10 shots deep or something. Like I Is that
05:24:09
Brian AtlasIs that I mean he's not Let's say he's not passed out, but he's like drunk. Is that I don't know. Are you saying like did is she now did she grape him? I
05:24:19
Brian Atlasdon't know. Yeah, because did he give her consent? Yeah. Well, isn't the argument though once you're past a
05:24:27
Audrey (DT248)certain threshold, you can't consent, right? So then it's still grief. It's just such a great It's just like case by case really. It's like people shouldn't be having sex like if they're too drunk. Like that shouldn't even be a thing.
05:24:40
Audrey (DT248)Like men shouldn't be having sex or gold. It's such a touchy subject, too. I'm going to look at my phone and have like all this. I don't go to bars. I don't go to clubs. I I don't I don't be drinking like that. And I I don't want
05:24:52
Brian Atlasmy girl drinking like that either. But um okay, we have some chats we get we got to get through. By the way, guys, I just lowered it. We're going to do $69 TTS. If you want to get a roast and
05:25:01
Brian Atlasroast the panel, boys, uh we have some chats. We have Pasty George. Oh my god, why is it never want to? Okay, chair two. Andrew Wilson and
05:25:13
Brian AtlasRachel Wilson are awesome people. They would roast you and turn you into a full course buffet. Andrew Wilson never said grape is acceptable. Stop slandering him. Pork chop. Pork chop is so funny. Thank you for that. All I can say is
05:25:26
Brian AtlasAndrew released a video on that explaining the fuller context if you want to like love you Andrew. If you want to get, you know, his side of it, but he was definitely not making an advocation or anything like that like saying it was okay. Even though chair 3
05:25:39
Brian Atlassaid Phoenix in her intro and has now changed to Tucson, Bass Thor and I have consulted with our Tucson contacts and they don't claim her either. Disavow. Disavow. I don't care. What is she doesn't care.
05:25:52
Brian AtlasUh, all right. We have What are you going to do? Thank you, Desert. Thank you, Desert George. Appreciate it, brother. We have uh Who is it? It's so amusing and ironic when feministic influenced women argue that women in the
05:26:03
Brian Atlasworld are getting unalived by men each year. Yet, the number of abortions per year exceeds femicide worldwide. Lol. Drew. Damn.
05:26:15
Lindsay LeeDamn facts. Damn, that's crazy. I don't think it's feministic to which, by the way, do you even know the definition of feminism? Do I? Which wave? What are you talking about? First wave
05:26:29
David Patrick Harryof feminism. There's first wave, second wave. No, like the actual definition of the word. Well, it depends on which wave the context and how it's defined. Third wave and fourth wave feminism, they're a little bit different than first wave. Do
05:26:39
Brian Atlasyou want my definition of it? Like storage. I don't I don't I don't I'm begging. I'll give you the charitable definition and the real my definition.
05:26:50
Brian AtlasThe charitable definition is it is it it is a woman's advocacy movement at best. Uh at worst it's that plus
05:27:01
Brian Atlasmassive hatred of men, misandry uh and actually a movement towards uh a uh what's what's the right word for this? Female supremacy even. Yeah.
05:27:14
Lindsay LeeMatriarchy. Gyocentrism. Yeah. Yeah. What Rolo uses. Gyocentric. Faux show. I'm not going to go down my rabbit hole. It's okay. You do not want to go down
05:27:25
Brian Atlasthat rabbit hole. I don't. No. She I'm running her. No. I've been up like Do you a long [ __ ] What do you tell Tell me what your definition of feminism is.
05:27:36
Lindsay LeeShe's sleep deprived. Yeah. I'm majorly as of 8:00 a.m. I'll be up 48 hours. Jeez. Damn. She drove in from drove here. Wait, but what's your what's your
05:27:46
Lindsay Leeuh definition of feminism? It's advocacy for equal rights of women. Why is that supposed to be a negative term? What rights do women not have that men have right now? Are there male
05:27:59
David Patrick Harrysex slaves in the world right now? I'm sure there are. That are not children? I'm sure there are. I want one. There's not any that exists in the whole world, dude. There's no there's no men that are sex slaves in the whole world statistics
05:28:11
David Patrick Harryhere for seven hours. I'm just kidding. Go Google it and come back. I guarantee you there's men that are sex slaves in the world that exist. I like how you want to look at the five and then there'll be like 95. I'm not saying that. You said there were none that
05:28:23
David Patrick Harryexist. I'm saying I guarantee you that there's some exist. I'm saying like how is that? But how is that related to rights? Rights are granted by the government. How what rights do women not have that men have? Goodness. So, you don't think women should have the right
05:28:34
Brian Atlasto live freely and not be sex slaves? Of course, nobody deserves to be a slave. But what what how is that related to government rights? What government
05:28:44
Brian Atlasallows sexual slavery? Can you tell me which nation? Which one doesn't? What are you talking about? America has
05:28:55
Lindsay Leelegalized female sex slaves. Oh my god. No, I'm not saying that they've legalized. I'm saying obviously this stuff happens but that doesn't that's not a right. Rights are granted by the government. Oh my gosh. Okay. So, how
05:29:08
Brian Atlasabout a western country? Can you tell us you have a right to you have a right to live, right? Tell us one. Who gives you that right to live? The government. Tell us one western country where sex slavery
05:29:19
Brian Atlasis legal. I like how you had to make sure you said western. Well, no, no, no. You're doing you're doing the exact same thing you think you're accusing me of. Every time we push back on your feminist
05:29:30
Brian Atlasworldview, you want to be like, "Well, in South Sudan, the [ __ ] who?" Bro, so the rest of the world doesn't matter. Okay. I don't know about the the happenings of feminism in Eratria. I
05:29:42
Brian Atlasdon't know about feminism in Ghana. But that's my talk about we live in a western country. We live in the United States. Let's let's at least talk about the West, but let's preferably talk
05:29:53
Lindsay Leeabout the United States. Let's say this. You have a let's say you have a daughter in the future. Sure. And she wants to travel the world. Are you going to feel okay that she is safe to travel around the world by herself? I wouldn't let my
05:30:06
David Patrick Harrydaughter do that. Sends my daughter or my son because I believe that she needs to be accompanied by a man because why is that? Because the rest of the world doesn't share my values. Okay. Exactly. Now, if it was your son, would you say
05:30:18
Brian Atlasthe same thing? I would still prefer him to be with a group of people. But even then at least a man travel the world alone. You you know what's funny is is
05:30:29
Brian Atlasshe she has this sort of xenophobia towards these like eastern countries or these third world countries, but she's totally in favor of allowing their
05:30:39
Brian Atlasimmigrants to come to our civilized western country. How do you reconcile? How do you reconcile? always like deferring to this argument of well what
05:30:50
Brian Atlasabout in in uh [ __ ] Somalia the there's not feminism in Somalia but you're like well I think it's okay if we just have open borders and like all their immigrants can come into the United States when did I say that you
05:31:02
David Patrick Harryliterally said you're okay with that No you're putting words in my mouth I did not I promise you feminism has given every modern civilization a lack of a replacement rate regarding birth so
05:31:14
David Patrick Harryalmost every civilization which feminism has become somewhat normalized. U they're not even at replacement rate, which is like 2.1 children per woman. But why do you blame it on feminism necessarily? Because it's totally
05:31:26
David Patrick Harryshifted the relationship dynamics and the way that women perceive themselves and men and how what's the point of us getting together in the first place. And then the idea that you don't want to have a child because of your career or
05:31:37
David Patrick Harrymoney or the different things and that now you have a you know your child's a a fur baby. Like this is this is all types of this is this is feminism seeking into other things like for example when we
05:31:48
Shulaused to live like agrarian societies then children were an economic asset because you know we needed people to work on your farm but you know as we shifted to industrialized societies like
05:32:00
David Patrick Harryso industrialized societies were below replacement rate because we weren't not at the beginning. What are your pronouns by the way?
05:32:09
ShulaUh, my pronouns are Zor. Nice. I am transracial. Trans. What What race do you identify as? I
05:32:20
Brian Atlasidentify as a black. You identify as a black woman, right? Yeah, I could see. I'm not a woman. I'm non-binary. Oh, sorry. Non-binary black transist or whatever it was. And I'm also neurode
05:32:32
Brian Atlasdivergent. Well, we got that before we cast him out. Just kidding. Uh, all right. How did How did we get back to I don't know how we got back here. We're where We're Where we're
05:32:45
Brian Atlasreading a chat or something. It's a long winding record. We got some success. I have a debate team at my private Christian high school. So, you should get a refund. Just kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. You've been doing great. I
05:32:56
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05:33:08
Brian Atlasthat. All right, we got Snapchat. Brian, been watching the podcast for the last eight months and going through videos from most recent told. Looks like you're finally losing weight. Nah, bro. It's staying the same. I think I gained two
05:33:20
Brian Atlaspounds, actually. So, [ __ ] I got I got It's coming off though. It's coming off. Chloe's my personal trainer. Um, Anubis reloaded. She was wrong about the case.
05:33:29
Brian AtlasHe was uh Oh, the Brock Turner. That was okay. He was charged with the crime and convicted, but the Okay. His sentence was light. He was still allowed to
05:33:40
Brian Atlasgraduate, too. Okay. Oh, I remember this one. I recognize the name of this. Uh, thank you, Anubis, for that. Uh, thank you.
05:33:50
Brian AtlasThank you for the super chats, guys. Guys, $69 TTS. Uh, I've lowered it here at the end of the stream if you guys want to uh get one in. So, we have Inquisitor Zeal.
05:34:01
SPEAKER_00Boom. Thank you, man. Inquisitors donated $69. Chair 3 said, "Everyone being safe is a reasonable request. It's actually entirely unreasonable and divorced from
05:34:13
Lindsay Leereality. Nobody owes you safety." And no, there's no right to live. Delusional. I didn't realize the government could
05:34:23
Brian Atlasdecide if we live or die. Well, I mean, couldn't they, though? Like let's say there was uh like look at uh Cambodia for example or you know there's been a
05:34:33
Brian Atlaslot of dictatorships. Uh the government can take away your rights. Yeah. But you were talking about the US right? Even in the US it's conceivable that a
05:34:44
Brian Atlasgovernment could come into power that could take away your rights. I'm and by the way I'm speaking descriptively. I'm not saying that that's that should be the case. But you would agree that it
05:34:54
Brian Atlascould it's logically possible that in the United States a government could come to power that stripped back people's rights.
05:35:04
Brian AtlasYeah, it's possible. So, do rights actually exist is the question you have to ask yourself, right? But just because none of us take it away doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
05:35:16
David Patrick HarryBut it's it's a mental fictition that's granted by the cons the social consensus regarding the government. So that's where again the arguments made about duties versus rights. Rights are granted by the government as people made in the
05:35:29
David Patrick Harryimage of God. We have duties and Andrew talks a lot about this and uses this as a point to differentiate between how we engage in society and that men and women should have duties and responsibilities because responsibility comes with duty.
05:35:41
David Patrick HarryAnd the idea that women feminism can live in a world that men created without any responsibility or duty to the collective, right? You guys when when we now we're in apparently a war with Iran,
05:35:53
David Patrick Harryyou guys aren't going to be conscripted to go to the front line, but men have that obligation getting conscripted. I'm just it's a hypothetical. I'm not saying that Trump is using the draft right now,
05:36:03
David Patrick Harrybut I'm saying in that instance, men have a duty to society that is all we all have socially granted. What duty do women have to society? I volunteer as tribute.
05:36:15
David Patrick HarryWell, we have children. Do they? Because it doesn't seem like they are. I mean, we're totally below replacement rate. I know. Well, good for you. And I think that's fantastic. And you're married and you've been married for a long time. And you have four children. You have
05:36:27
David Patrick Harrycontributed more to society than the vast majority of women because of that. Without women, we wouldn't have Wi-Fi. Do you realize that? Oh my god. Anyway, all right. Whatever. This girl is
05:36:38
Brian Atlaskilling me. I am my mother's daughter. Okay. Wait, you do realize though without men, y'all would still be living in caves and like teepeees and [ __ ] Without
05:36:50
Lindsay Leewomen, humanity wouldn't exist. Okay. Well, okay. Now we're getting to like Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, but it would be the same for men. If there weren't any men, you wouldn't No, they just started making Okay. But if historically, what
05:37:02
Brian Atlasthe if all men disappeared like today, there'd be the end of the species. I would hate life. the world would be. It's actually women who invented everything. That's my character. There we go. Okay.
05:37:13
Brian AtlasIt's It's her character. It's her character. Don't let her bait you. Uh, okay. Finishing up the notes. Finishing up the notes. We have uh Shula. I should have done this before you put your
05:37:23
Brian Atlascostume on because it will sound totally weird. It's all good. Uh, okay. You said your husband was on a blind date. Oh, this is about your husband. No, it's a story about my husband. Okay. The girl
05:37:35
Brian Atlasis very disrespectful, ignoring him, texting on her phone. Then she ordered the most expensive thing on the menu and had it packed to go home and she just left.
05:37:45
Audrey (DT248)Oh, that's [ __ ] up. Okay. Yeah, it is. Uh, let's see. Um, that's crazy. You said that he was so shocked. She was just hungry. It was not me. Okay. It was
05:37:57
Brian Atlasnot me. Chloe, scoot in a little bit. D, you said dating for the sake of dating is bad, especially for women. And you should only date for marriage. Uh, okay.
05:38:08
ShulaYeah, if I do it wearing this, it will sound really weird. Okay. Yeah. Anyway, yeah, that's what I believe and um I am
05:38:18
Shulareligious. I'm Jewish orthodox. So that's what I did for myself. Like I only dated for a marriage and you know that's why we dated for such short period of time because like you're not supposed to live with the person that
05:38:30
Shulayou're dating and you're not even supposed to touch because touching is a distraction. So like we didn't touch the whole time and that's how we got married. You said so you said there's like
05:38:42
Shulamatchmakers involved. There's no socializing between men and women. That that's a different kind of society. That's Yeah. That's that's not the society that I was part of. But I mean I
05:38:52
Lucy Lotuscould talk about it. Did you? So you never did anything like like oral or like what the [ __ ] any like other before? Like she said dating before. You didn't touch anything. She said she said
05:39:03
Audrey (DT248)that you didn't kiss him until you married him. No girl. Good for you. But look, they're still married. That is No, I I'm not hating on that. I love that's your journey. I respect it. I adore it.
05:39:16
David Patrick HarryShe got married again. Not my journey, but I respect your journey. Still marry more children. Thank you. Like I think that's amazing that you can like only but that's because she comes from a community that's very insulated and they date within their community. So I'm sure like her community her parents were
05:39:29
David Patrick Harryinvolved in choosing the partner and going through a process to confirm because again the whole point is long-term marriage and children. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And when you touch when you touch the other person like it it's a
05:39:41
Shuladistraction because then you don't see the whole person. You don't see like their personality. They don't think like, oh, is he going to be the right husband for me, the right father for my children? So, and it works. So, how long
05:39:53
Audrey (DT248)were you with him before you got married? Three months. Three months before you got married, huh? Oh, okay. So, you weren't waiting that long before you get to That's why marriages happen quickly because you know, if you wait
05:40:04
Shulafor too long, then Got it. You might be tempted to do things you're not supposed to do. We have three chats coming through. We got Py George back to back.
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Brian AtlasOkay. Thank you, Pacey George man. Appreciate the TTS. Hey, he's got that casino money. Yeah, he's got that. Yeah, he's he's a baller. Do you know him personally? Yeah, he's my homie. He took
05:41:07
Brian Atlasme to the reservation. He's first nations Canadian. Do you do you want me to link you up with Pasty? You're single, right? You want me to set you up? No. You don't
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Katarina Hammondlike First N Are you racist or what? I don't know his personality. I don't know anything about him. He's great. Rate him one through 10. He's a 10. He's a 10 out of 10. I don't know if I trust your level of niceness.
05:41:34
Katarina HammondJudging your character. He's very He's very handsome. Yeah. I don't know if I trust your judgment on that either. He's got Is he pasty?
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