150 Body Count At 18?! Yung Gravy Side Piece?! Cheater?! Hater CONFRONTS Brian?! | Dating Talk #248

Date: 2025-06-23

Duration: 8h 39m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAudrey (DT248)>

KKatarina Hammond >

JJordan (Adoption)>

DDavid Patrick Harry >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Shula(guest)

SPEAKER_02Katarina Hammond(guest)

SPEAKER_03Chloe Yummy(guest)

SPEAKER_04Lucy Lotus(guest)

SPEAKER_05Lindsay Lee(guest)

SPEAKER_08David Patrick Harry(guest)

SPEAKER_10Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_11Audrey (DT248)(guest)

SPEAKER_12Anastasia(guest)

SPEAKER_13Jordan (Adoption)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduced

Key MomentChloe: was side piece for rapper Yung Gravy

Key MomentLucy Lotus: ~150 body count by age 18/19. Sex addict. Discovered porn at 8.

ControversyLindsay vs David Patrick Harry: femicide and male accountability heated debate

Key MomentShula performs feminist costume change (woke cosplay)

Key MomentBody count reveals: Lucy ~500, Lindsay 300+

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Including Shula (Jewish Orthodox), Lucy Lotus (150 BC at 18), David (PhD Religious Studies).

Lucy 150 Body Count at 18

Self-identified sex addict. Discovered porn at 8. Lost virginity at 12.

Religion and Pair Bonding

David leads discussion from religious perspective.

Femicide and DV Debate

Lindsay vs David on male accountability for violence against women.

Shula Feminist Costume Change

Woke cosplay character, costume change mid-episode.

Body Count Reveals

Lucy ~500 total. Lindsay 300+. Chloe says 5 (previously 3).

Transgender Debate

Audrey: man dating trans woman is straight. David disagrees.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasquestion by the time cuz you said it the body count when you revealed it to your boyfriend but you felt bad about it. It was 150 and you were like 19 was it?

Brian AtlasYes. By the time you graduated, like the day you graduated high school, what would you say your body count was then? It was like that's when I, you

Lucy Lotusknow, racked up that many because I met my boyfriend like of that time. Um, right after high school, like right after I got out of high school. So, it was like I basically

Lucy Lotushit, you know, every person I could possibly get in high school. Wait, you hit every Not like hit, but like you

Lucy Lotusknow I got with Sorry. How big was the high school? Um I think in my graduating class it was like 2,200.

Brian AtlasSo pretty big. Thought you were going to Did you Did you like Did you try to like Was there a rival high school that you're like [ __ ] I can't like I can't deal with I didn't just do my school

Lucy Lotuslike I went to like the district. she school district branching out and [ __ ] Okay, that's cool. Um, and they can all

Brian Atlasvouch for that if you're listening. Wait, so uh that's funny. So on did you walk for graduation? Did you

Brian Atlasdo the whole gown and cap or whatever? Um, no. Okay. Did you you graduated or No, you just dropped out. I got my GED. Oh, okay. So, let's say um the day you

Lucy Lotusturned 18, what was your I guess your body count? Um by like No, it was like in the like over

Lucy Lotus120 for sure. Like between 120 and 150. Yeah.

Brian AtlasAnd I never got any STDs. So, my friend's older sister was correct about the sleep with them. Uh, yeah, because you because everybody is young

Lucy Lotusand less likely to have STDs. Did your parents realize that you were doing this or No, it's fine. Uh, my parents I just

Lucy LotusI don't want to get too much into them because they don't deserve I chose this, not them. Um, but yeah, they aren't

Brian Atlasstupid. Mhm. Good times. Good times. We have a chat here from Eric Hart. He

Audrey (DT248)says, "Willy Wonka has been with over 150 Oompa Loompas." Willy Wonka. She's Oh my god. Willy Wonka. I'll take it. That Bob is

Audrey (DT248)bobbing. Don't play with her. Word. Word. Word. It is. Sometimes I get Lord Farquad, too. Not everyone can rock a bob. You're rocking. You're definitely

Lucy Lotushotter than most. Everybody, she's got that face. So, rockabod. Hey, listen. I can take it and I'll dish it to What do you look like? Eric Hart. Oh, [ __ ]

Brian AtlasAll right. Eric Hart, thank you for the uh super chat. Appreciate it. Thank you, Cat, for the super chat. Uh, thank you. Thank you, guys. Guys, if you want, read is 100. TTS is 200. Do it through

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Brian Atlasa shout out during the show if you get one.Whatever.com and also join our Discord. All right. Thank you guys. Appreciate it. So, let's see here. Uh, we're going Oh. Uh, single. Do you have

Brian Atlasuh any guys in the picture? Well, I'm in a relationship. Oh, wait. Oh, okay. Sorry. I got my uh Do you have any guys in the picture? Sorry, I got my notes mixed up. Do you have any guys in the picture? I know. Kind of. There's

Jordan (Adoption)somebody that I want to be in the picture. Um, but I've kind of gotten really picky right now. Picky? What do you mean by picky? Um, I guess my

Jordan (Adoption)standards have increased a lot. uh I don't really I don't want to tolerate something uh disrespect

Jordan (Adoption)um my morals. I want a man who loves Jesus and can leave lead me and I want to get married and I also want them to

Jordan (Adoption)understand and respect the fact that I'm a birth mom. Um so not a lot of guys get that I guess at my age. So um can you can you explain what you mean when you

Jordan (Adoption)say birth mom? Oh yeah. So, a birth mom is basically a girl or woman that has gone through pregnancy, um, chose life, gave birth to a baby, and then placed

Jordan (Adoption)for adoption directly to a family unit. Um, and so I did that 10 and a half months ago. Um, so I have a baby boy.

Jordan (Adoption)Kudos. Uhhuh. I said kudos. Thank you. He is beautiful, happy, and healthy. Um, but yeah, I am a birth mom. So that's kind of what that is. So, so you placed

Brian Atlashim for adoption, right? Yes. Okay. And with the adoption process, uh, is it somebody local to you? Are they across the nation? Are you going to like remain in touch or like what isn't this all

Jordan (Adoption)laid out in some sort of adoption agreement or contract? Yeah, there's a lot of legal stuff within it. Um, there's not a whole ton I can say. Um

Jordan (Adoption)but I went through an agency um selected a family and got to choose to place them, hand place him myself. Um but

Jordan (Adoption)yeah, it's it was a interesting hard process. Um but it did change my life in a beautiful amazing way. But uh yeah, they um

Brian Atlasthey're great and he's great. I think I saw a TikTok you made. You said you did it. It was for the best interest of the child. Yeah. And you also said that you

Brian Atlasfound yourself pregnant. Yeah. Um the phrasing there intrigued me. You found yourself. It wasn't planned. Um before

Jordan (Adoption)my pregnancy, I was not living the lifestyle I'm trying to live now. And um yeah, I came home from work one day and

Jordan (Adoption)I took a pregnancy test and I found out I was pregnant. And I was shocked. Um I it didn't sit in for a while. I was in denial. It was right before Christmas,

Jordan (Adoption)too. And so it was just not it. But yeah, I was um 21 and it was terrifying. You said that uh you have many dating

Brian Atlasstories. You said though in your past you dated drug dealers and abusive guys and guys that were just upright crazy. Everyone in your life makes fun of you because you really pick the craziest and

Brian Atlasworst options of men. Yeah. Uh you wrote also that you would meet people at out at clubs, at the afterp parties and you'd be put in crazy situations. The last guy that you dated was someone that

Brian Atlasyou met that you intended uh to be in a one to be just a one night stand, but you ended up getting pregnant. Wait, so question. Was it a one night stand that you got

Jordan (Adoption)pregnant? No, but intention like it was very short process. Um, like how long had you been

Brian Atlasseeing him even casually before you got pregnant? Like two weeks. Two weeks. Were you on

Brian Atlasbirth control or no? No birth control. Okay. And he was Were y'all was he just blasting? Um

Jordan (Adoption)I Yeah. Yeah. I don't know my family hearing that. But yeah, I mean you got to take some precautions at least. I mean I got Yes, I got pregnant. Um and I mean for the longest time I'd been kind

Jordan (Adoption)of told that I might not be able to. So it was very random for me and it wasn't told you that. Yeah. Um, you have like

Jordan (Adoption)endo or something or No, I have PCOS. Um, but yeah, I didn't really take it like seriously. I kind of just was Oh,

Brian Atlaswinging it. Oh [ __ ] Okay. So, uh, and and with PCOS, it it can make it harder to get pregnant. And you thought maybe that did the doctor tell you like your chance of getting pregnant is low? Is

Jordan (Adoption)that what he said? They just she basically just kind of said like um when time comes when you want to get pregnant like you know we'll just have to like watch to see when you ovulate and stuff

Jordan (Adoption)like that cuz it messes up your ovulation I think. Um so like if I was tracking it on my phone it wouldn't be like specifically consistent every month. And you said you ended up

Brian Atlasbecoming a Christian during your pregnancy. Changed your heart and mindset on life entirely. Yeah. uh you were put in this difficult situation. You did place your son for adoption. Um

Brian Atlasyou said that you definitely struggle with finding men to date because most are looking for something easy. You don't live that type of lifestyle anymore. You've changed your perspective on life, becoming a Christian, and trying to find someone to marry and have a family with. What denomination of

Brian AtlasChristian are you? Uh non-denominational. Okay, gotcha. Um, and so are you um are you waiting for marriage before you get frisky with anybody else or what's

Jordan (Adoption)your position on that? Yeah, I mean I would like to. Um, obviously once you have sex, it's really hard to not. Um,

Jordan (Adoption)and so, you know, that's a why I want to find somebody that can stay true to who they are and what they believe and that

Jordan (Adoption)can lead me. Um, and so I'm not feeling like I'm constantly having to say no or push something. Um, like I want a guy

Jordan (Adoption)that can lead that strong and well. And I believe that the right one for me will never put me in that predicament. Um but yeah, I mean I would like to I mean I

Jordan (Adoption)truly think that I want my heart to be pure and my intentions. Um and I think that goes a lot further than just not being intimate

Brian Atlaswith somebody. So it's like you're dead set on that or what? Yeah. Okay. Gotcha. But it sounds like you found it hard to navigate that as it relates to dating because maybe

Brian Atlasmen hear about your past experience or you relate to some degree about your past experience. You had a son um and they're like

Jordan (Adoption)I don't know, you know. Yeah. No, I mean it's definitely one of the things that is always a hard topic on a first date. Um, most people that I have shared it

Jordan (Adoption)with when I go out with them take it really well or they don't understand and they kind of think it's like not a big

Jordan (Adoption)deal. I think that's like the one thing that like bothers me the most and it's like aggravating when people treat it like it's nothing. Um, you know, it it's

Jordan (Adoption)a child. it was a human being that grew in my body for 10 months and you know placing him was not easy or like when people say oh you just gave him away I

Jordan (Adoption)don't like that either um it's placing and um yeah most guys like either take it really well and they're very respectful about it or it's the complete opposite and then I don't give anybody

Jordan (Adoption)the time a day after that. So, all right. Also, oh, go ahead. I was just going to say cuz it will forever be a part of my life, and so I need somebody that's going to honor, respect that, and, you know, love my son even if they

Brian Atlasdon't ever meet him. You also said that you uh you wanted to talk about purity and redemption. You used to think purity was a status you either had or lost, but now you know it's a daily decision to

Brian Atlashonor God with your heart, body, and boundaries, and that his grace is big enough to redeem any past. Do you categorize yourself as a born again

Jordan (Adoption)virgin? No. No. Um I don't really think that's a thing. Um I mean because at the I do believe like I'm born again into

Jordan (Adoption)salvation and that you know my old past has died with the past and I'm living my new life now. Um honoring the Lord and

Jordan (Adoption)walking in obedience. Um, I think purity in that standpoint is intentions behind anything I say,

Jordan (Adoption)anything I do. Um, how a relationship is friendship-wise, family, um, a serious like relationship with a man that I would want to marry. Um, I think it's

Jordan (Adoption)also internally like I want to be pure to God. Um, I mean in the Bible it says, "Blessed are pure in heart, for they will see God." and like that. I want that and I don't want to have to take

Jordan (Adoption)account one day from my life and say that I didn't uphold and honor that. Um even though it is hard and you know I will never be perfect in that

David Patrick Harrydepartment, but I will always do my best to walk in obedience with that. And do you Oh, go ahead. I was gonna say does that include like this new journey with Christ? Are you going to be voluntarily

David Patrick Harrycelibate until marriage? I mean, I'm just curious about the degree to which you're approaching relationships in this new light of Christianity and trying to find a man. Obviously, talking about your story, that's a, you know, a

David Patrick Harrydifficult conversation that you've been having with people, but I was just curious about sexual relationships. Again, trying to find a man that's willing to commit and be that leader and provider that's Christ centered. Uh, is

Jordan (Adoption)that also include like being voluntarily celibate and making somebody wait? Yeah. Um, you know, that's ideally what I would want. Um, I would want someone too that at least has somewhat of the same

Jordan (Adoption)mindset in that way because I also believe that nobody's ever going to change for someone else. Um, if they don't do it for God or themselves, what makes me think that they're going to do it for me? Um, so that would never be

Jordan (Adoption)something that I would want to pressure or push onto somebody um because it wouldn't last. And I would want them to honor that with their own heart and mind

Brian Atlaswithout somebody having to tell them to. Would you feel it would be unfair if a guy who perhaps was initially interested in you, but he heard about

Brian Atlassome of your past, let's say it's a Christian guy, and he determined because of your past, he didn't want to date you. Let's assume he wasn't rude about

Brian Atlasit or anything, but would you think that this is unfair? Would you uh take issue with that in any sort of way? I guess

Jordan (Adoption)like it would depend on the situation of what would bother him. I think that everyone has the right to say no and

Jordan (Adoption)reject somebody. Um within I guess a Christian's perspective, I don't believe we should judge people for their lives or their past. um you

Jordan (Adoption)know why I'm not going to be the first to throw a stone when I know I've done the same thing. So I don't know. I just I think if a guy were to say that um that is his right, his opinion to do

Jordan (Adoption)that and that also just shows that he wasn't the one for me. Um but I don't it wouldn't bother me because I mean I would also consider things about

Jordan (Adoption)somebody else's past as well. But I also do know that because I'm walking in a new path that life doesn't define me. Um it doesn't own me and it has no control

Jordan (Adoption)over who I am and who'sse I am. And so you know if he looking is looking at me for that then I would maybe question you

Brian Atlasknow his relationship with God. Well I have a I I'm not an expert on Christianity but we do have an expert

Brian Atlassomewhat in PhD religious studies. Um, so question for you Patrick. So my understanding is uh whether it's

Brian Atlaslike a past of promiscuity or you know we have some only fans people here uh if they were involved in sex work or you know whatever it may be uh anybody can

Brian Atlasbe saved by Christ is my understanding but men do not need to then disregard women's individual baggage and marry them and these two things are compatible

David Patrick Harryunder the Christian faith. Is that correct? Yeah I I would agree with that. I mean, the church, we don't, it's a hospital for souls. So, it's not like we reject sinners. Everybody can be saved and everybody can bring the baggage. The

David Patrick Harrypoint is to pick up your cross and follow Christ and try to get rid of that baggage and become more like Christ. But in regards to things that we do before we kind of make that transition or try to live our lives in that light, uh, it

David Patrick Harryall has consequences. And I think that that's the delineation here is that there's consequences to our actions, but it's not that you can't be forgiven or be the ideal person that you choose to be in the future. And I think that that

David Patrick Harrydelineation can be difficult to talk with people about because uh you know if you are a a man of high status and you

David Patrick Harryhave good values and you're ready to get married I mean it it's important like uh choices that people make and the consequences that come with that are important because you're sharing a life

David Patrick Harrytogether. And so obviously regarding Only Fans and all this different stuff, I mean, one of the things that I was very conscious of is some of the the work that's been done on how many sexual partners and the pair bonding and how

David Patrick Harrythat breaks down after sex. And I think that's a really big deal if you're trying to find somebody to uh have a long-term relationship with and a life with. uh doesn't mean that that is a uh

David Patrick Harrymarker in which you have to reject all people um you know and and be very rigid but it's a real conversation and I think that's difficult to have with people is like hey um I know that maybe the man

David Patrick Harrythat you're looking for has the qualities you're looking for but also there's a conversation here and and him trying to live his life the best way means that he should have some say in the type of people that he chooses and who he's going to build his life with

Chloe Yummyand who's going to be a great mother and and steer his household old. Um, may I ask you a question? Sure. Um, do you know um who Nala Fitness is? Yes, I do.

Chloe YummyUm, so I'm like from the same agency as her and I have the same manager as her. Um, like what do you think about her?

Chloe YummyBecause I mean I would like to do that one day like transition out of Only Fans and get married. Um, like what are your

David Patrick Harrythoughts on her situation? My thoughts on Nala is I think it's great that again she claims that she found Christ and she's turning over a new leaf. Um I don't think she should be in a position

David Patrick Harrytalking about theology. So if I in my opinion if you did have a promiscuous past you're doing you know um adult content only fans this type of thing and

David Patrick Harrythen you've turned over this new leaf and 3 months later you're lecturing people about what Christ means or what the Christian church teaches. Uh, again, she's kind of Protestant, so we have differences. I'm I'm Eastern Orthodox,

David Patrick Harrybut still, um, if somebody's truly repentful, I think it'd be appropriate to kind of step out of the limelight for a few years and actually try to live that life instead. Some of the content that I've seen is she's like doing uh

David Patrick Harrytrad cooking videos, you know, and then she also has her tits pushed up and she's licking the spoon in a very sexual manner. And so, is that somebody that's truly repentful or is that somebody that decided, "Yeah, maybe that lane isn't what I want, but I still want all the

David Patrick Harryattention. I still want all the the gratification of young men singing for me and tell me how beautiful I am and now I'm just a trad wife and look I'm a non-denominational Christian and I can kind of form my own theology and what

David Patrick Harrythe the Bible means. So in my opinion I think it's again if it's a sincere repentance and a transition good for her. I think that's great. At the same time, she is not in a position to be lecturing people or doing online

David Patrick Harrycontent, telling people about Christian theology and why we can't criticize or be upset that she's doing certain things even though she's turned her a new leaf over. A lot of people I've been seeing

Chloe Yummyum that are like very Christian and stuff are saying that she should like donate her money because she made I believe like $18 million on Only Fans.

David Patrick HarryAnd what what do you think about that? like keeping the money or giving it away. I mean, if that would have to be, again, I would advise her if she actually had a spiritual father. I mean, if she was Orthodox, she would have a priest. She'd have somebody that would

David Patrick Harryknow her background story, the intricacies of her life, and they could actually give her advice on what would be spiritually beneficial for her. Uh, again, I'm not a priest. May that may be

David Patrick Harrythe recommendation is saying, "Look, you have all this money. um you made it in a way that was very sinful and you're very conscious of that now. Um could you do something beneficial with that? Or you

David Patrick Harryknow she claims that she lost a lot of it through taxes and all this different stuff. So I I don't I don't know her financial situation. And I don't know what would be most beneficial for her

David Patrick Harrysoul and her spiritual state, but I would imagine that um you know figuring out how to use that money in an appropriate way that reflects this new lifestyle that she claims to be living.

Jordan (Adoption)Yeah, I think that would that would probably be the more ideal version to go. Okay. Can I say something? So, I actually met her yesterday really and she was amazing. And I I do understand

Jordan (Adoption)your point of like theologically talking about it or putting it out there, but I also do take the standpoint of in the

Jordan (Adoption)Bible, Jesus's last thing here on earth was like sending out go tell everyone um in the great commission and like no

Jordan (Adoption)matter if you know she's this amazing person, bad person, we all fall short no matter what. And so I'm not going to go judge her for what she's been through

Jordan (Adoption)but wants to walk now in a new life when I know that I've messed up every day too. And you know I think what she is doing because God blessed her with the

Jordan (Adoption)platform. You know she went through all of this for a purpose for a reason and now she has the ability to speak truth. Um, and whoever's seeing it, listening

Jordan (Adoption)to it, watching it, you know, no matter where her heart is on that inside of her, the message of the gospel and Jesus is still being received out of it. And I think that's a good thing. Do you think

David Patrick HarryJesus would appreciate her doing sexually content with her trad cooking videos? No. So again, that's my point is there's still a lot of baggage there. And I think for and this is generally

David Patrick Harryspeaking regarding the attention economy that we live in with social media is that attention is currency. In fact, it's almost more powerful than the actual dollar. How much attention can you garner? Because you can always turn that attention into actual money. And so

David Patrick Harryfor women, this is what you know, so many guys have come on here on this whatever podcast and talked about how this is like uh deforming the the dating and sexual dynamics between men and women because women can get so much

David Patrick Harryattention and gratification online through social media posts. So if that is the new version of her, well, why don't you just kind of step out of the limelight? And wouldn't that actually encourage more people? And maybe she made a video every once in a while

David Patrick Harrytalking about, hey, I'm happily married. Hey, now I I found a man that actually supports me. Look, this is what I'm doing. This is where I'm at in my journey. Okay, great. But still constantly feeding the attention economy

David Patrick Harrynow in a new grift in a way. Again, I don't know her heart and God bless her and her husband. I'm not here to condemn anybody. Have you met her? No, I've never met her. Well, I mean, her heart

David Patrick Harrywas pure in this. I I mean, I was watching her speak truth to other young women. Um, but she did come on here with Andrew Wilson and denied the Trinity. And so that's that's my point in regards to like just set it out for a little

David Patrick Harrybit. Like why don't you actually adopt the lifestyle and the worldview and get comfortable and learn what it is that you're actually participating in before you come on the Whatever podcast as a born again Christian and like make like obvious elementary mistakes on what it

Audrey (DT248)is that we believe and who are we worshiping? I can understand that. Do you think do you think that's a problem that she doesn't know everything even though she's beginning to start? like maybe she really changed her mind and her mindset and she's trying to do that

Audrey (DT248)to other women and she might not be as educated as you because you took you know your whole life to do that. So what's your like actual problem with her saying something while she's not fully educated in the matter matter right then? It's not about she doesn't need a

David Patrick HarryPhD or a doctorate degree in theology. My only point is just set it out for a little bit. Like why don't you just give it a break for a couple years? So she's like proving that she's really that's my only thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. It's not saying and she could come back and she could still not be super well

David Patrick Harryeducated me talking more from a testimonial uh you know personal perspective subjective experience that is fine she doesn't need to know but it's like to just make this quick transition and still be engaged with all the attention and garnering attention

David Patrick Harryfrom young men I mean just go look at the comments on some of these videos I mean clearly the young men are seeing what I'm seeing the ones that are sing for it and like interested in you know u you know online women uh kind of

David Patrick Harrypresenting themselves in sexual ways. So, all I'm saying is she may have a wonderful heart. I've never met her personally. My only thing is why don't you just give it a break instead of going on Michael Nolles and doing all these podcasts to like glorify look at

David Patrick Harryme. I'm the archetype of the transitionary figure from only fans to Christianity. It's like, okay, great. Uh why don't you just live that life for for a little bit? But isn't it a good thing that she's like, you know,

Chloe Yummyeducating girls that might be in the same situation? And like for me it was like a really big eye opener and like if she did what you were saying and like taking a couple years off like I wouldn't really think that that would be

Chloe Yummyeven possible for like someone like me and we're like we I mean she was in a very similar situation as me. So for me it was like eye opening. But she could tell everybody she's

David Patrick Harryquitting Only Fans and becoming a Christian. like she could let the whole world know what it is she's doing and the journey that she's going on without still being trying to be some type of public figure now in a new context.

David Patrick HarryThat's my only that's my criticism here is that it's again I'm not criticizing her body of knowledge. I'm not. It's the the idea is that she makes this huge transition and then she's lecturing people about it and it's still you look

David Patrick Harryat some of the content, some of these cooking videos. It's like are maybe it's better than the content she was making before, but is this is this truly what Jesus Christ wants her to do with her

Chloe Yummylife? Is this truly the uh you know emblematic of a of a Christian traditional woman? Huh? She's spreading the word of Christ through her huge platform. So he would want that, right?

ShulaI would think that he would prefer her to live the lifestyle and spread the gospel. And what do you Go ahead. Oh, so you have a problem with her being a public figure in general or you have a

David Patrick Harryproblem with the kind of content she's creating? My problem is just that she is presenting herself as a voice of Christianity and she's very new to this. But I guess she's making cooking videos,

David Patrick Harryyou know. But again, have you seen the cooking videos? Uh, I think I saw Yeah. So, she has her tits out her things on top and then she's like licking the spoon while looking at the camera. I mean, is this is this this isn't like

David Patrick Harrytraditional trad like I have buddies that have wives that are very traditional and they have very large online followings. They are totally covered up. The content is not about them. It's about the cooking. It's about

Chloe Yummyhow we make sourdough bread. It's about the things that they're doing. Her content is still about her. The camera's focused on her. will like sexualize her without her meaning to do that to

Chloe Yummyherself. I mean, she's really pretty and I think um she has a lot of fans that like knew her before and like maybe they just the comments that you're seeing is like guys sexualizing her when she's

David Patrick Harryreally not meaning to and like meaning to be modest. Well, the super chat right there says again Rachel Wilson says that she's now selling theology courses, which gets to my point, okay? like she again now she's making money off teaching and again and if she was true

David Patrick Harryto scripture I mean what does St. Paul say about the role of women in regards to teaching people about the faith. Not that they can't evangelize. Women have been incredible at that throughout history, but being a sort of

David Patrick Harryauthoritative figure on theology or on the church. I mean, it's right there in the epistle. So, uh, that's just not that's what I'm saying. It's just it it feels like it's not a full transition. Maybe it's a journey for her and is

David Patrick Harrytotally sincere and she's on this journey, but just why don't you just take it a couple years off? I mean, is that really like is this like a controversial take for me to say like if this is really true repentance, just step back a bit? I mean, not really.

Audrey (DT248)You're very well spoken and obviously educated. So, I just wanted to know like what you thought about it. No, it was a good question. It's not a crazy view. It's more like I feel like as a woman doing it, like that's and she did do sex

Audrey (DT248)work, so that's why she's viewed still in a sexual manner. And even if she fully believes that that's not herself, I feel like she can never get away with that. And that's unfortunate, but I feel like that's why I was asking that question because if it was a man doing it, you know, he doesn't have boobs to

Audrey (DT248)show and you know, I mean, maybe she's an outfit that shows that, but is that her intent or is that what you're, you know, seeing from that video? That's what I'm seeing and that's what I'm I just observe as a third party. Look at the comments. I mean, look at what the guys are saying that are watching. Be able to get away from that and that's

David Patrick Harrywhat s but she could she could cover herself. I mean, like again, like lowering the the sweater so you and then making sure your tits are pushed. I mean, you could obviously not do that. And again, you can make the content

Lindsay Leeabout the thing you're doing. Go ahead. I mean, okay, hold on here. No matter what somebody's wearing, men are always going to find a way to

Lindsay Leesexualize. I'm not saying all men, but they can. They have the ability to, and they certainly do. Our industry wouldn't exist if they weren't paying for it, right? So, clearly there's a demand and

Lindsay Leethey want it, right? But but not only that, you know, kids, women who have been victims of stuff that I don't want to say out loud and all that, it didn't matter what they

Lindsay Leewere wearing. And there's been several uh displays out in Europe and in the US showing like of all ages, of all sorts of outfits. I mean, I'm not defending her, but I'm saying no matter what

David Patrick Harrysomebody wears, is that the rule or the exception to the rule? What do you mean? Are those are those unique circumstances or is that every man like that's the general rule for men or are you highlighting exceptions to the rule that

Lindsay Leeactually are important to be discussed and things that we need to be critical of as a culture. Here's the thing though. Every everyone is different. You can't generalize because that's one of the seven fallacies. It's a hasty generalization. You cannot It depends on what you're talking about. But when

David Patrick Harryyou're having a general conversation about dating, you do make generalizations and that's important. % of all, you know, SA happenings, the

Brian Atlasperpetrator is a man. I dispute this claim. Uh, look it up. I dispute this. Well, here's the here's the interesting thing that you're conveniently ignoring.

Brian AtlasSo, for example, in many jurisdictions, the crime of rape categorically cannot be applied to women, for example. or

Brian Atlasthey'll say men cannot be victims of this crime. They can be victims of other forms of essay, but this specific thing and it's this very disingenuous thing that typically feminists do uh where

Brian Atlasthey say well 99% of rapists are men. Well, if the definition itself people who offended children well actually just to be I think the

Brian Atlasrate if you look at for example female teachers the rate of them essaying their students is exceptionally high and then And then additionally, the incidents of

Brian Atlasmoving off of SA to just general violence. Uh, mothers are much more likely to unalive their children than fathers are to unalive their children. In fact, it's called infanticide. Women are far more likely to commit

Lindsay Leeinfanticide, right? But more than 50% of all girls who have been assaulted, it's by a family member usually, and it's usually the father or the uncle. I mean, I'm happy to engage with you on your

Brian Atlaspoint, but I think you're you're kind of this is a bit of a red herring. He's talking about under the purview of Christianity, there's a component of uh

Brian Atlasmodesty that should be observed. We're not I he's not, as far as I understand, making some sort of argument that uh well, because you're trying to say,

Brian Atlaswell, even if women dress modestly, they get raped. Yes. I don't think we even dispute that. He's just saying under the purview of Christianity, Nal is out here

Brian Atlasbeing a trumpet. Uh a trumpet and that's not that is not commensurate with the Christian faith, right? But one of his main points was look at the comments.

Lindsay LeeLook at the comments. And it doesn't matter what the comments say because there's men putting comments on children's stuff, too. So it it doesn't matter what the comments say because those are all opinions. If if she's

Lindsay Leegoing to church and then they give her that feedback or she's got a community of pe of believers and they're giving her that feedback and she's still not following, obviously that's on her. But

David Patrick HarryI'm just saying for you to give men in the comments more validation than my point in regarding the comments. It's the way that people are receiving it. So I'm I'm not judging her based on what

David Patrick Harrymen are saying. My my point is look at how people are receiving the content and the content. has her licking spoons, her tits out, like doing things that are very sexual. Yes, she's baking something. But again, if you just

David Patrick Harrycompare it to other traditional wife like Instagram accounts, the camera is focused on the things and sometimes you'll see their face or they're explaining something, but usually they have a long dress on, they're covered up, and so the content is about the

David Patrick Harryactual stuff. Her content is really about her. And that's what my point is in regards to, hey, just just step step out for a second. just like take all get out of the attention economy that is so

David Patrick Harryconsuming and again I mean we've talked about only fans like the industry like that is a thing that actually draws women in is that you can get so much attention in a sense that is power and that is a currency and that's all I'm

David Patrick Harrysaying is just take if you're in that industry and you're trying to now change a new leaf like why don't you do that just for a little bit so people can see the full sincerity of it but I just don't think like the feedback from these men in the comments especially online

David Patrick Harrywhen it's easier to be a bully line should be should be where you determine whether or not she's wrong or right. I mean, my point is they're sing for so they're making sexual comments about like what she's doing. So, they're

David Patrick Harryinterpreting it as very sexual. My point is my point is it doesn't matter. I'm not judging her based on what they're saying. My point is look, here's content. Here's the audience. I'm

David Patrick Harryjust observing the the how it's being received. So, it's specific to both variables. Yes. That's Yeah. And I'm not blame. I'm not saying, "Oh, we need to look at her the all the young men comments, the simpy fans, and and then judge her based on what they're saying."

David Patrick HarryNo, no. I'm saying, "Okay, here's the content. I'm aware of her context and her transition." Okay. Interesting. Now, let's just look at how it's received, and it you look at some of the way it's

Brian Atlasbeing received. They're receiving it as very sexual. Right. Right. Okay. We have uh some chats here coming through. We have Creamy. What the [ __ ] is this name?

SPEAKER_00Creamy Seagull. God damn. Creamy seagull donated 100. That shouldn't be a TTS. My mistake for conservative/family oriented kind of colona girl or a spends too much time at liquid zoo kind. If

SPEAKER_00it's the former, let me know if we can grab a drink sometime. It'll DM you. Solid 5.5 here. What the [ __ ] Waste of $100.

Brian AtlasUh, hold on one sec. Sorry. That should have came in through as read. That was just a setting those unchanged. Uh, so creamy. God, that's a weird. You got to

Brian Atlaschange your name. Um, I charge a simp tax. If you are sing on any panelist, you have to send in another message. Uh

Brian Atlassame for so you have to send another hundred and um you you must uh I guess you got to apologize to me to um

Brian Atlasto the men at the in the studio and then just to the world in general for your sery. Okay. Thank you for that though. Appreciate it. All right. Let's see

Brian Atlashere. And if you guys do want to get a message in $100 read TTS is 200. Uh, we're going to go through the rest of the notes. Here we have, going back to

Lucy LotusLucy. Lucy Goosey, my favorite. I actually say that as a joke on set. Lucy Goosey. I'm like Lucy Goosey. It's a joke. I love it. Is it? No. Uh,

Brian Atlasso you said you were on a date with a guy and the guy you slept with the night before came up and told him to have fun. I You know what? You just say it.

Lucy LotusYou really want me to? Yeah, you can say it. Um, okay. Um, I was on a date with someone um before I started in this

Lucy Lotusindustry. I was probably like 22, 21, 22. And uh this other guy that I had, you know, slept with, he um

Lucy Lotushe came up to the other guy and was like, um he was like, "Have fun tasting

Lucy Lotusum my, you know, nut." That's [ __ ] disgusting. He I guess I had seen that other guy

Lucy Lotuslike a few times and I he really liked me. So I think that he Yeah, I think that he just was upset to see me on a date with someone else.

Brian AtlasHas that happened before or was that a first? No, that was a first time. Okay. For that instance. Yeah. Yeah. You also wrote people date in the adult industry uh way more than they do outside of the

Brian Atlasindustry. which is interesting to you. Uh I think we well we didn't really talk about that but uh you said you agree with a lot of the points that Brian makes. You're just contradictory towards

Brian Atlasyourself being in the adult entertainment industry. I feel like we covered that kind of you know like me being like in a battle in my head contradict. You said you'd love to talk about gender

Brian Atlasroles and being raised traditional but still choosing to do the career. So when you say you were raised traditional uh like are your both your parents still together? 30 plus years. Okay. And

Lucy Lotusthey're they're married or Yes. Okay. and are religious Christian or um my dad

Lucy Lotuswas raised Catholic and my mom was like cath like I think she was like in Cath Catholicism but um yeah and then they

Lucy Lotusdecided to break away from the Catholic world but they still held on to like Catholic morals so I still had like the the roots of Catholicism so to speak um

Brian Atlasjust not the religious aspect of it. Okay. All right. Uh and then you wrote, "As far as modern dating goes, part of the reason you decided to uh get

Brian Atlasinvolved in the industry was because you were tired you were tired of uh dating and not getting satisfied in the bedroom. Yet,

Brian Atlasevery guy you've been with felt it was cool to film you during Carnal Knowledge." Um So, okay, you got into the industry. One of the I guess one of the other reasons

Brian Atlasyou got into the industry is because all the guys prior to it were or maybe most of them were bad in bed basically. No, I just I

Lucy LotusI don't know. I had dating now. I feel like outside of corn, like outside of even like, you know, OAF for adult entertainment, I just feel like it's

Lucy Lotuslike really shitty nowadays, like just dating in general. like on both ends for the guys and the girls. Um, and that I feel like I feel like everyone can agree with that. What do you think's

Lucy Lotuscontributed to that? Um, I think honestly, um, I I don't know. Like it's just this day

Lucy Lotusand age, a lot of girls, and I'm not just saying just girls, but girls, I mean, the sex industry is like rising and rising by number. And a lot

Lucy Lotusof girls are making a lot more money. Like I'm not saying that guys make more or girls make more money than guys right now, but a lot of girls are growing to make more money than like the typical

Lucy Lotusguy nowadays. And like I feel like it's I don't know. Guys, I feel like are not stepping up to the plate as men. And I feel like girls are starting to become men. What are men not stepping up to the

Lucy Lotusplate? What does that mean? Does that make sense? I don't know. Does that mean they're not making enough money? What does it mean they're not stepping up to the plate? What? like, oh my god, I feel like I'm going to get

Lucy Lotusso much like hate for this. Um, please don't hate me. Um, no, I feel like I feel like guys have taken a step down because girls have taken an alpha step

Lucy Lotusup, if that makes sense. And I don't mean that like offensively. I just mean that like I've seen a shift. like women have really like made a stance to like

Lucy Lotusyou know like we we've pushed like as women like we pushed hard to become you know equal and just be seen as equal and just like financially equal and I feel

Lucy Lotuslike we've pushed past that threshold and now we're like alphas in a sense not fully but yeah and I feel like men have

David Patrick Harrylike kind of just Yeah. Do you think that that dynamic actually like they bring each other together? Do you think the alpha men out there are dealing with alpha women or do you think they're finding traditional

Lucy Lotuswomen that actually are submissive and want the same things in regards to traditional roles? I mean, I think that still happens. So, so I just feel like it's the percentage of that has dropped like tremendously. Yeah. Do you think

Lucy Lotusreligion and tradition has anything to do with that? I mean, like what is Oh, yeah. I mean, I feel like tradition has died over the years. um for better and for worse and the normalization of sex

David Patrick Harrywork is one of the things that is sort of dilitterious to our culture and to you know again young men that become addicted to masturbating and and doing the watching the stuff online I mean they're naturally going to become more

David Patrick Harrysimp and more beta because their highest goal is sexual gratification and so they're going to be more submissive to a woman if that opportunity means that they can have sexual gratification

Lucy Lotus1000%. Yeah. I know. I mean, I I just see the shift and I know the shift. So, going back to what you said before, like as far as dating goes, like I wasn't

Lucy Lotusgetting satisfied by men, you know, emotionally or physically anymore outside of the industry. And I was like, I'm tired of, you know, hoping that I

Lucy Lotusget that spark when I go meet up with a guy rather than just like getting booked with a really hot guy and like possibly having that chemistry and possibly like we're both in the industry, both get

Lucy Lotuseach other and we both, you know, like can grow something together or not like, sorry, you had you had something you were raising your hand because I think a lot of the the Wait, can you just like

Lindsay Leestraighten your mic? a little bit. So, it's just like kind of facing. Yeah. I feel like a lot of the fault is is trying to be placed on the women who are in the industry and obviously they are

Lindsay Leeaccountable for their own actions, but why aren't the men accountable for theirs? Why are you paying for that content? Why are you supporting those sites? Why aren't you going after the

Lindsay Leecompanies? Because we're employees. That'd be like you getting mad at Amazon employees for what Amazon's doing. Well, hold on with your OF. You guys are independent contractors. Yeah. Right.

Lindsay LeeBut we You're not employees of No, no, no. But still, we don't own Only Fans and they take a 30% cut. So, it's not like You said 30. Yeah. So, it's not like Damn, we didn't create our own website. I mean, yeah, there are some

Lindsay Leewomen who do that and that's fine. Again, take accountability for your own actions, but the hub and all those other sites agree. Who are they owned by? I mean, I agree with you that men shouldn't be consuming this content.

Brian AtlasAbsolutely. They shouldn't be following a bunch of thoughts on Instagram. They shouldn't be liking their photos. They should they shouldn't follow any any woman on Instagram. No offense. Uh or I mean I agree. Yeah, these guys cuz

David Patrick Harrythey're sing. They they should not be following random chicks thirsting over them. Please do. Please keep doing Well, you guys want men to keep doing that, but they I don't care. I know it won't stop. It's like a chicken in the egg

David Patrick Harrybecause I mean I agree with you. It's like men have to stop consuming this content and men have to actually like have orientation and direction in their lives so that a woman that they meet when it's the right one will be submissive to where they're going and

David Patrick Harryand what they're building in their life so that they can help them. At the same time, the chicken and the egg is we just talked about the erosion of tradition, the erosion of religion, and how sex work in general is part of that hamster

David Patrick Harrywheel. And so it's like, yeah, I totally agree with you. Men are at fault. They should need to stop stmping. they shouldn't be paying for all this stuff online and giving women this ability in these platforms and at the same time choosing to do it because of the

Lindsay Leeopportunity. It's just like this cyclical feedback loop that feeds on each other, right? But it we wouldn't have jobs unless the demand was there. So if that's cut, we won't have jobs and

Brian Atlaswe won't exist anymore. It has to start at the source. We're not the source. Eh, I mean it sounds like you don't have agency. I I wouldn't place the blame

Lindsay Leefully on one or the other. It's not on one or the other. But I'm saying men shouldn't be the consumers of it are men. The owners of these companies are men. The ones who are paying for our

Brian Atlassalaries are men. So where is their accountability? Where is their values that you're talking about? We both recognize that men consume this content. We're saying that they shouldn't. But

Brian Atlasthere there is a shared culpability and blame that exists both on the men consuming it but also on the people producing it. But all the action and blame towards women, I don't see any of those same actions or effort towards

Brian Atlasstopping men. There's a massive effort to stop men from consuming uh adult content there. I mean the entire whether you're whether you're uh Judaism or

Brian AtlasIslam or Christianity understanding with all these religions there's a big push against consuming this sort of content but outside of even religion you have like there's apps that are trying to get

Brian Atlaspeople to quit and there's there's like even secular components of people saying hey this cont this content is not good for you even if you're not looking at it from a religious perspective there's definitely

Brian AtlasUh there's people out there who are advocating this is just blanketly whether you're religious or not, it's unhealthy for your relationships as a man to be consuming this content. It's going to impact your libido. It's going to impact um your sex life. It's just

Brian Atlasgoing to impact your general relationship with your girlfriend or wife. And so I think there's a whole bunch of angles that that are coming in and saying I think women themselves on the individual relationship level. I

Brian Atlasthink most women's stated preferences is strongly against having a partner that watches or consumes this sort of adult content. So I think there's a whole bunch of angles that are actually

Lindsay Leetackling the the male component of this, right? But I think it should be both. And if the efforts aren't working to stop the men, then again, it goes back to stopping the companies because either way, we're just employees or people

David Patrick Harryworking to make the content that's in demand by these companies. Well, I you know, I make online content. Vast majority of my audience are young men, uh, typically under the age of 40, mostly in late teens, mid20s. And so,

David Patrick HarryI'm constantly criticizing and putting more and more onus on them to stop. So my community, my audience, and the Orthodox church in general is seeing a massive increase of young men converting to the church. This is all tied with the

David Patrick Harrypriests trying to rid them of these problems so that they can actually be truly masculine men that are marriageable. And so there are major cultural phenomenons right now that are happening where people are becoming more conscious of this and young men are

David Patrick Harrytrying to break free of it because they're realizing that the lust, the sexual imagery, all the sexualization of our culture that's constantly around us is that they can't turn it off. And once you get trapped in that feedback loop again of like constantly lusting and

David Patrick Harrywatching pornography and masturbating, they become very weak. And I so I agree with you. But there are many people, myself included. I mean, this what this podcast does is try to wake men up and criticize the simp men that are

Brian Atlascontributing to it to shame them in a way. We need we need to bring back shame. We need cultural shame again. Do you think we Yes, we need to shame these men. Men should never simp.

Brian AtlasWe need to overcorrect. In fact, you know what? We got to overcorrect these men. Honestly, I think for at least a period of 50 years, maybe a century, I think, you know, don't even pay for dates. Don't even pay for dates. You've

Audrey (DT248)never sed over a girl ever. Oh, sure. I've probably said Okay. So, why are we What's the Why? Long time ago. Why do we need to end simple

Audrey (DT248)levels of everything, right? Like being a S. There could be an extreme level being a S, right? But I feel like even the porn the porn thing like you were saying, let me think about my thoughts before I go off. But why do why do you

Brian Atlasthink it's a bad thing to be a s? Like why do you think that? Uh well I think the whole simp thing is you basically have these guys doing way too much being way too extra for women who are like

Brian Atlasvaguely interested or not even interested at all. I think it's fine to be a provider for a woman when there's like some degree of established uh relationship, but you'll have guys who

Brian Atlasare sing over women who like those those men are invisible to that woman. And the other thing is uh like if a woman is sexually involved with another man. I

Brian Atlasknow a lot of people move this way maybe at this table. I don't know. But like you can't be doing the traditional thing or sing for a girl who like in your case you were you said you were out at a club or something and you were on a date with

Brian Atlasa guy and the guy who you [ __ ] a different guy who you [ __ ] the night before he walked over I don't know if he said it to you or the dude and he said

Brian Atlassomething about like enjoy the my seed inside your girl. I'm sorry we can't be sing for women who are sexually involved with other men. I think. But my my other

Brian Atlasbaseline, my other threshold is you can't be sing for a girl who's even romantically involved with another guy. My rule is if if a girl wants to deal with me, there can't be other dudes in

Brian Atlasthe picture. She she has to give me her undivided romantic and sexual attention as quickly as possible. Well, if she's involved, just to be clear, if she's if she's even sexually involved with

Brian Atlasanother dude, I don't want anything with her. Why are you laughing? Chill out, Chloe. Damn, she's chill out. Why you sitting like that? That shit's crazy, son. Chill out, Chloe. So, anyways, hold on. But anyways, chill out, Chloe. So,

Brian Atlasanyways, look, she he sipping right now. I'm just saying a lot of women, they're dealing with multiple dudes. You can't you can't be doing anything with a girl. You can't even hold a girl's hand if

Lucy Lotusshe's dealing with another dude. Guys are dealing with a bunch of I was about to say both ways. Listen, I was raised a certain way, right? And this is like my brain. My brain is, you know,

Lucy Lotustraditioned to like or whatever conditioned to believe a certain thing, right? But I'm trying to break away from that because it's it's it's does it's not making sense in today's age, right?

Lucy LotusLike girls don't get out of high school and be like, oh, like, oh, you can join college, you can go in the military, or like you could go do corn, right? Like no one says that. Like no one says like

Lucy Lotusgo, oh yeah, you could go do Vance. girls literally like like stripping I don't know if I can can I say that sorry like girls don't even do that anymore

Lucy Lotusit's like just immediately to OF and like do I 100% agree with that no but at the same time like it's making us a lot of money and how are we making that

Lucy Lotusmoney the men like that and and the women everyone all the consumers and they're all buying that and guys have a bunch of girls and girls have a bunch of guys and it's just a lying age and not

Brian Atlaswhat we're doing. We're all We have to reject that [ __ ] We have to embrace masculinity and reject modernity. We have to reject that categorically. Uh

Brian Atlaspromiscuity in men and women is bad. We need to we need a return to masculinity. We need a return to femininity. And we're not going to have that when people are [ __ ] a bunch of people. I'm

Brian Atlassaying, look, I'm saying this. If I'm going on a date with a girl and she's dating three other dudes, it's a wrap. I don't want anything to do with her. So, when it comes to sing, right, again, I think I think you should be head over

Brian Atlasheels for your girl, but you can't be head over heels for some girl who's texting 20 other dudes and who's [ __ ] three other dudes. She's if you're going to be uh, you know, have that love for a

Brian Atlasgirl or if you're going to be providing or you're going to be protecting, it has to be your girl exclusively. You can't deal with some chick who's [ __ ] another dude. Point blank. Period. Okay. Thank you. Thank Did you hear the word

Audrey (DT248)masculinity from both of you? Like when we're talking about this topic, like do you think it demasculines like them being like overly sexual or overly, you know, sing or any of that stuff? Like does that show them as a man of some

David Patrick Harrysort? Like the way that I believe ma masculinity has to do with boundaries, right? So men defend boundaries and maintain boundaries. And I would say as he was mentioning modernity uh we live in a modernist period and the whole

David Patrick Harryproject of progressivism is actually eroding distinctions and boundaries that our culture is typically upheld and so that by its nature actually feminizes our culture and feminizes the men within it. I mean when men go to battle in history they're defending a boundary. It

David Patrick Harrycould be a territory could be their tribe could be their women and their children but that's what men are called to. Masculinity is about maintaining boundaries in a metaphysical sense, right? It can mean a lot of different things. And so we live in a period where there are no boundaries. There no

David Patrick Harryboundaries between men and women, right? Women uh I mean men now ministrate, right, was what we're told. There's no boundaries between uh man and machine. There's no boundaries between uh man and

David Patrick Harryanimal. I mean you have like Antifa saying uh no border, no wall, no USA at all. This is a this is a dissolution of national boundaries of national identity and heritage. And I and so all of this stuff is eroded. And so the meaning

David Patrick Harrycrisis that people like Jordan Peterson and Pacio and Vervey are talking about is that men have no identity because there's no boundaries that actually conforms to them that they can defend and actually live within. And so this is

David Patrick Harrythis is where the loss of masculinity is that there's no boundaries for men to actually defend. And a man's identity is about defending something. That's why when men have children or they get married, it gives them the sense of masculinity. Hopefully, they live up to

David Patrick Harrythat role in a traditional Christian sense because we we have expectations on what that looks like. And what is that? What's that role? Oh, protector, provider, and a spiritual leader. Um, and it's not like your your wife is your

David Patrick Harryslave or something. You love her just like Christ loves the church. You love her in a loving way. And you you care to her. You um give her the opportunity for her to then express her femininity. And

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