Elon Musk Has Baby With Whatever HATER?! Mason! Is She CRAZY?! VIRAL Mugshawty? | Dating Talk #228
Date: 2025-02-17
Duration: 7h 39m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_01Andrew Wilson (clip)(guest)
SPEAKER_02Bailey (Philly)(guest)
SPEAKER_03Alexa(guest)
SPEAKER_04Felicity Hughes(guest)
SPEAKER_05Ashley(guest)
SPEAKER_06Bailey Jane(guest)
SPEAKER_07News/TikTok Audio(audience)
SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_09Mason Gregoire(guest)
SPEAKER_10Elina(guest)
SPEAKER_12Ariel(guest)
SPEAKER_13Ashley St. Clair (clip)(audience)
SPEAKER_14Emily(guest)
Key Moments
00:00:13
IntroBrian Atlas introduces Dating Talk #228 with full show announcements
“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast...I'm your host Brian Atlas”
00:04:40
IntroBailey Jane introduces herself: 25yo, Illinois, creative/reseller/rapper/inventor. Very mysterious about her income sources and inventions.
“my name is Bailey Jane I'm 25 and my occupation is a creative”
00:09:15
IntroFelicity Hughes introduces herself: 18yo from Santa Barbara, dental assistant and business student
“my name is Felicity I'm 18 from Santa Barbara”
00:10:20
IntroBailey (Philly) introduces herself: 23yo from Central PA, BSBA in marketing/international business
“hi I'm Bailey I'm 23 and I just got my bsba in marketing and international business”
00:10:50
IntroAriel introduces herself: 24yo (birthday yesterday), Arizona/Santa Monica, bartender/model
“my name is Ariel I'm 23 well I'm 24 now my birthday was yesterday”
00:11:36
IntroElina introduces herself: 20yo, originally from Russia, Philadelphia, business student
“my name is Elina I'm 20 years old I am originally from Russia but I currently live in Philadelphia”
00:12:00
IntroEmily introduces herself: 24yo, Western Washington, BA Psychology, CPS social worker, dropped out MSW due to wokeness
“my name is Emily I am from Western Washington I just turned 24”
00:12:43
IntroAshley introduces herself: 25yo, San Diego, lash/nail tech and barista
“my name is Ashley I'm 25 I don't go to school”
00:12:55
IntroAlexa introduces herself: 29yo, Silicon Valley, eVTOL company, BS Business
“hi I'm Alexa I'm the old one at this table I just had a birthday so I'm 29 now”
00:13:24
IntroMason introduces himself: 28yo, NEET, bachelor in mechanical engineering. Brian acknowledges he's a top recurring guest.
“my name is Mason I am 28 years old...right now I have no job I'm a failure at life”
00:18:22
Key MomentMason shares full story of catastrophic motorcycle accident on September 11 — grade-4 aortic tear, 50 days in hospital, 12 operations, coma until end of September, near-death multiple times. Doctors say he is the topic at medical conferences. Credits fitness and faith for survival.
“on September 11th I got in a really bad motorcycle accident...I had a grade for aortic tear...about 90% of people who get that die”
00:26:35
Key MomentAlexa tells the story of how she met Mason: slid into his DMs after watching him on the podcast, prayed he would message her, eventually met for 4 hours in coffee shop. She stayed with him at the hospital for 3 weeks during recovery.
“I think he was on the podcast...I slid into his DMS...she stayed with me at the hospital for 3 weeks”
00:33:45
QuoteMason reveals he is a virgin, saving for marriage. Cites statistics on how more partners correlates with lower marriage success rates.
“I'm a virgin um yeah never been with a lady...saving it for marriage...extremely important to me”
00:35:31
RelationshipRelationship status round: Bailey Jane (single 2yr), Felicity (2yr relationship), Bailey Philly (single 1.5yr), Ariel (5mo w/ girlfriend), Elina (4yr relationship), Emily (engaged 5yr8mo), Ashley (single ~1yr), Alexa & Mason (together, met through show)
“uh what is your current relationship status”
00:37:32
ControversyFelicity "Taylor Drift" car chase story: played news TikTok of her police chase in Camarillo, charged with assault with deadly weapon and evading police after striking a patrol car. On diversion program. Gained 13k Instagram followers.
“driver at the wheel is alleged to be Felicity Hughes of Camarillo”
00:56:35
ControversyBrian discusses Ashley St. Clair announcing Elon Musk's 13th child — notable because she previously begged to be on Whatever then said the show "sucks," and also called for Brian to be deplatformed from YouTube.
“she made a tweet on Valentine's Day...she has a love child with Elon Musk”
01:01:08
QuoteEmily on the Ashley St. Clair situation: "I am not surprised for the amount of sh*t that she talked hypergamy seems to be rampant these days anyway"
“I am not surprised for the amount of sh*t that she talked hypergamy seems to be rampant these days”
03:04:55
Key MomentBrian vs Elina debate: do female incels exist? Brian says vanishingly rare — any woman willing to try can find sex. Elina argues they do exist even if uncommon. Brian offers to personally help a femcel as proof. Emily provides data point about My 600lb Life.
“if a woman is extremely ugly you think that she can get sex from a guy who is also extremely ugly sure yes”
03:25:35
Key MomentSelf-rating round (1-10, no 7): Bailey Jane=10, Felicity=5, Bailey Philly=6, Ariel=8.5, Elina=6.9, Emily=5, Ashley=6.5, Alexa=6.9, Mason=6.9, Brian=5. Chat GPT rated Brian 5-7.
“Stiffler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 you can't pick seven”
03:38:49
Key MomentElina argues women shouldn't be drafted but should have a birth draft (forced childbearing during war). Brian points out this is more extreme than being pro-life. Elina says she leans pro-life and would support it in extreme circumstances.
“women shouldn't be drafted...they should still be drafted just for non-combat roles”
04:42:12
Key MomentPanel reacts to Andrew Wilson clip about male authority in marriage — "I don't care to have my authority questioned." Alexa and Mason both support concept of male headship while emphasizing respect.
“this is from our good friend Andrew Wilson we...let's react to this”
05:07:50
Key MomentExtended marriage debate: Brian anti-marriage (legal contract biased against men, women initiate 70%+ of divorces, divorce incentivized). Alexa pro-marriage (public declaration, burning boats). Mason: government shouldn't be involved, only the church.
“I don't think men should get married”
05:31:22
QuoteChat donation from Chris ($200): "41, make 2 million a year, not married to my girl...created a trust and gave her power of attorney...men who are winning and aware do not get married"
“men who are winning and aware do not get married”
06:48:45
ControversyBailey Jane claims she moved to LA because she psychically knew about the fires 5-6 years in advance, and believes most LA fires were arson/blue beams not climate change.
“I moved to LA 5 years ago because of the fires...I knew it wasn't going to be climate change”
07:05:45
QuoteBailey Jane explains she dated a guy who was Emperor Augustus reincarnated — same birthday as Augustus's father, visited Getty Villa and he pointed out the Augustus bust. Also dated Abraham Lincoln reincarnated.
“he was Emperor Augustus...my ex was Emperor Augustus in his past life”
07:37:28
OtherBrian closes the show, raids W Grandma on Twitch (83-year-old playing World of Warcraft retail)
“she is playing World of Warcraft retail it looks like there it is there's the raid shout out hello whatever guys she's 83”
Topics Discussed
00:00:13
Introductions & Show Announcements
Host Brian Atlas introduces the show, guests introduce themselves with name/age/location/occupation/education. Mason shares his motorcycle accident story and recovery. Alexa describes how she met Mason through the podcast.
00:35:31
Relationship Status Round
All guests share current relationship status, longest relationship, and how they met partners. Felicity reveals her car chase viral story / Taylor Drift mugshot. Ariel discusses her bi identity and long-distance relationship. Emily reveals her engagement.
00:56:35
Ashley St. Clair / Elon Musk Baby News
Brian discusses conservative influencer Ashley St. Clair announcing a child with Elon Musk. Panel reacts to hypergamy, single motherhood, Elon's prolific fathering, her penthouse apartment. Discussion of her requesting deplatforming of Whatever in the past after begging to be on the show.
01:20:25
Mental Health & Medication Disclosures
Guests go around the table sharing diagnoses and medications. Bailey Jane: ADHD/mild autism (unmedicated). Bailey Philly: PTSD, depression, anxiety, possible BPD (Zoloft). Alexa: PTSD (unmedicated). Emily: ADHD + PTSD (Adderall). Elina: none.
03:04:55
Female Incels (Femcels) Debate
Extended debate about whether female involuntary celibacy exists. Brian argues it is vanishingly rare (women can always get sex if they try). Elina argues it does exist. Alexa/Emily provide nuance. Brian offers to personally help a femcel as proof. Discussion of male vs female dating effort.
03:25:35
Self-Rating Looks & Peak Age
Guests rate themselves 1-10 (no 7). Bailey Jane: 10. Felicity: 5. Bailey Philly: 6. Ariel: 8.5. Elina: 6.9. Ashley: 6.5. Alexa: 6.9. Mason: 6.9. Brian: 5. Discussion of when each woman will be at peak attractiveness.
03:35:00
Questionnaire Round — Dating Opinions
Pre-show questionnaire covered: men should pay first dates, women's makeup for men vs themselves, women shouldn't be drafted, gender pay gap, body counts, marriage pros/cons, prenups, ambition in men, age gap relationships, racial dating preferences, height minimums, income requirements, bear vs man in forest, men are physically stronger, passport bros warnings. Bailey Jane's long notes read aloud by Alexa.
04:07:53
Racial Dating Preferences
Panel discusses racial dating preferences. Bailey Philly brings up Oxford study (Asian woman + white man). Brian states his preferences (white/Asian/Latina). Emily (mostly dated white, one Filipino/Black). Bailey Jane (gravitates to Black men/Hispanic). Elina doesn't care. Ariel doesn't have strong preference.
04:42:25
Andrew Wilson Clip Reaction
Panel reacts to viral clip of Andrew Wilson (not present, at NJ debate convention) explaining that he gives his wife what she wants but has final say and doesn't care to have his authority questioned. Panel discusses male headship in marriage — Alexa and Elina largely agree with submission in marriage.
04:54:53
Instagram Matchmaking & Rating Male Influencers
Brian shows photos of male friends/acquaintances (Zach, Felix, Kai, Speed, another) asking panel if they'd date them. Also rates male influencers including Asmon Gold.
05:07:50
Marriage Debate
Brian explains his anti-marriage position (legal liability, women initiate divorces, no fault divorce). Alexa and Mason defend marriage (commitment, public declaration, burning the boats). Emily discusses prenups. Chat donation from Chris ($200) agrees with Brian: men who are winning don't marry.
05:44:00
Body Count Round
Guests share body counts. Felicity: 2. Ariel: ~7 women, ~5 men. Bailey Jane: refuses. Bailey Philly: refuses exact. Elina: 2. Emily: refuses. Ashley: refuses. Alexa: refuses. Mason: 0 (virgin). Brian does test of asking single women if they'd hook up with him — all decline.
06:26:00
Bailey Jane Past Lives / Psychic Discussion
Extended discussion of Bailey Jane's claims: past lives, twin flames, Emperor Augustus reincarnated ex, Abraham Lincoln reincarnated ex, Dua Lipa as Augustus's twin flame, moving to LA guided by universe for fires, blue beam conspiracy fires. Emily and Brian push back on the math/logic. Roast session from chat.
06:53:28
Makeup Removal Segment & Roast Session
Makeupremoval: Alexa and Elina wipe makeup. Roast session from chat — mostly targeting Bailey Jane's psychic claims and Felicity's car chase. Various donations read including OJ Simpson, Michael Jones, Randy.
07:20:00
Show Close & Final Questions
Rapid-fire questionnaire answers. Final TTS roasts. Emily discusses real gender pay gap being in dating. Brian wraps show, raids W Grandma on Twitch playing World of Warcraft.
Transcript
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04:37:11
Arieldifferent categories so like yeah mask fem but lipstick I would consider myself a stem because like stem like a stem so
04:37:21
ArielI like I do like I'm a switch it's like it's like I can dress in boy clothes but I can also dress in girl clothes I I I like to be masculine but I also like to be feminine I do both I've been told
04:37:34
Ariellike people like either want to like throw football with me or like give me a kiss like I'll dab you up but I'll also be like hey okay I don't know that's just who but that's just who I am can
04:37:43
Brian Atlasyou dap up Alina real quick I don't know wait hold on wait you got to like go more she's Russian she it's she's learning she's still learning I uh what
04:37:55
Brian Atlasabout daap up our girl Bailey next to you let's see it all right let's go oh [ __ ] oh [ __ ] okay uh so wait question
04:38:05
Brian Atlasfor you Ariel yes I'm putting you on the spa here no that's fine we got a panel of some love ladies tonight who you pick if you had to take if you were single if
04:38:17
Brian Atlasyou yeah I know if you were single like who you got who you who you interested
04:38:26
Arielin okay honestly I'm not going to say because I'm going to be respectful to my girlfriend so that's fair that's fair that's fair yeah that's but I think everyone here is beautiful so you're
04:38:38
Brian Atlasgorgeous as well and you're gorgeous as wello wait are do you guys do like three Sims or is it monogamous uh it's monogamous I've never done any of that I'm very I I don't like just freaks me out that's
04:38:50
Brian Atlascool what how did we get okay oh the going out thing did we go wait the going out yeah that's where you were oh if your boyfriend was like hey this is this is going to be a deal breaker uh if you
04:39:00
Brian Atlaskeep going out do you accept his uh boundary so I think I went um girl it could be a girlfriend I I would say bye you you're you're out bye no then I'll
04:39:12
Arielfind someone else that wants to go out with me and respects that with me no I'm what this is the love of your life not that's not the love of my life huh I feel like the love of my life is going
04:39:23
Elinato have similar interests what if never mind um okay what about you I accept the boundary as long as me and him can go out and have fun all all what
04:39:35
Brian Atlasabout you as long as he buys me a pool table Ashley if my man didn't want me to go out I wouldn't go out you'd stop beautiful okay Alexa I love the Jazz bars can I can I keep my jazz bar
04:39:47
Brian AtlasMason's like I [ __ ] hate Jazz [ __ ] that [ __ ] it's so nice he no Mason puts his foot
04:39:56
Brian Atlasdown he he looks at you he's like Alexa I'm tired of this [ __ ] scat music morally against jazs yeah I'm done no Jazz bars
04:40:08
Brian Atlasdevastated no Blues you can't do Blues either I'll give up no Blues no Jazz no Kenny G it's
04:40:21
Brian Atlasovering we' have to talk about it talk who no no no no no hold on hold on as first off Alexa I don't know if you know
04:40:30
Brian Atlasthis I am Mas you see this right here yes Alexa you see this right here yeah I'm on I'm the [ __ ] block okay Alexa you
04:40:40
Brian Atlaswant this you got to come through me you got to come through me you want that you want that package no no no so listen if
04:40:50
Brian AtlasMason in Mason in his biblical judgment puts down the the gavl and he's like listen
04:41:01
AlexaAlexa you're not going to Jazz bars anymore if he said it like that we'd have a problem but if he said if if we had an actual conversation about he please Alexa will not like that please
04:41:11
Brian Atlasdon't go to the Jazz bars look he said it in the way that would be um respect respectable and yeah
04:41:21
Brian Atlasno he he he's not respectful he's like you know what I've been he's like [ __ ] that no no Jazz bars and I don't even want to have the conversation he doesn't even he doesn't
04:41:32
Brian Atlaseven want he's just like nope this is my decision no Jazz bars that's a question I would I would
04:41:42
Brian Atlasgive up the Jazz bars oh there wait oh we have a clip related to this I don't oh you know what here let's react to this really quick I'm going to send this
04:41:52
Brian Atlasin the private chat it's from our good friend Andrew Wilson we oh yeah let's do that and then Damian we're gonna once we have the full panel back once Ariel's back here we're going to do the all
04:42:03
Brian Atlasthose Instagram tabs too okay so pull that clip up this one went viral and I want the girls here how do you uh I want the girls here you pay
04:42:12
Brian Atlasattention you got to react to this oh yeah do it that's funny uh Perfect all right go
04:42:25
Brian Atlasahead and uh put the volume up a little bit on the yeah YouTu uh I think maybe like 34s of the way should be fine yeah go ahead and play it how do you show respect to your wife yeah oh all sorts
04:42:38
Andrew Wilson (clip)of ways I basically give her whatever the hell she wants I adore but here's the thing the reason that I do this is because if I say this is what ultimately is going to happen that's the last word in it and I don't even want to have the
04:42:49
Andrew Wilson (clip)conversation we don't now she may really want to and I can tell sometimes that she really does but I don't [ __ ] care because it's my decision ultimately so you don't care about how she feels I know I didn't say I didn't care how she
04:43:01
Andrew Wilson (clip)feels I just don't care to have for question my authority autonomy over the marriage was there initial conversation prior to that or is it just like we're doing this don't ask me depends on the context more for like bigger decisions
04:43:13
Andrew Wilson (clip)in life not necessarily like little things even larger decisions if ultimately let's say I went home and I said we're moving to Nevada in 3 weeks get your bags packed and I'm not going to have a I don't want to hear a word about it you're doing it and that's the
04:43:26
Andrew Wilson (clip)way it's going and you think that's respectful W I think that ultimately it's my choice and how she shows me respect yeah that's how she shows me
04:43:34
Alexarespect W sorry dubs W uh who who's on board Alexa so I would say it this way so in a
04:43:44
Alexamarriage yes I I do think the woman should submit to the husband and he is ultimately the leader I think that's why it's so important for a woman while you're dating to see okay is this
04:43:56
Alexasomeone I would submit to if and if I trust his judgment and his decisions we have this conversation do it's funny sometimes I'll say like we'll be talking and I have a strong personality and I'll say something and then I'll catch myself
04:44:07
Alexaand I'm like you know what you're a grown man you an ask my opinion on this and I like will catch myself and and sometimes he goes why are you saying that he goes I do want your opinion he goes if I'm if I'm talking to you about
04:44:18
Alexait and like we have a really good relationship in the sense of I trust that he would lead us well and it's like over time that's what you have to look at but it's it's also that balance of yeah if you're in a marriage yeah you have to submit but you have to trust
04:44:31
Alexathat you're dating someone or marrying someone with good character and good values that would actually say like if he said hey we're not doing this he's such a like introspective thinker I know he's already given it a lot of thought
04:44:42
Mason Gregoirehe's not someone who does things on a whim very much so I definitely think what Andrew is trying to articulate right here is like the most extreme circumstances yes he probably talks to
04:44:53
Mason Gregoirehis wife about certain things about most things but it's like the most extreme situation in the most extreme situation do you actually do you actually honor the authority of your husband and if
04:45:05
Mason Gregoirethat answer is yes in the time where he says we are doing this no questions asked I don't whatever I don't care what your opinion is this is what's happening in that in that situation if you say that the man has all the Authority or has the
04:45:18
Mason Gregoireultimate Authority you submit to him but if you don't then yeah I think that's kind of what he's articulating and I'm sure there has have been times in his relationship where he just he says he's
04:45:30
Brian Atlasthought about this like I understand if it upsets you but this is our decision and Andrew probably like he'll consult of course with his wife but if there's a
04:45:42
Brian Atlassituation where I mean that maybe it's even goes beyond this but let's say there's a an impass you guys just you've had the convos you've had multiple convos he wants one thing you want the
04:45:59
Brian Atlasother is that the end of the relationship or as the man of the house do you defer to your man and let him like I guess the question is in a
04:46:11
Brian Atlassituation where it's just 50/50 you guys the impath who gets the final say because you can't just be in Perpetual conflict if there's just no oh
04:46:22
Brian AtlasI want this no I want this no there's no compromise Perpetual conflict it's either the end of the relationship or one person has to seed to the other who
04:46:32
Brian Atlasdo you guys think in the relationship has final say or maybe you don't think you might think No it should there's no such thing starting with Alina okay um my husband would have the
04:46:44
Elinafinal say because I think an optimal marriage is one where the man is able to lead and the woman trusts him to lead and that's the marriage that I would want to be in okay we're going to start you with you go around this way go ahead
04:46:57
Bailey Janewho do you think someone has final say in a relationship yeah especially if he's providing more maybe financially or physically yes physically like
04:47:09
Bailey Janeprotection wise I mean Oh I thought not like no not like that um yeah in that case yes if it's 50/50
04:47:16
Felicity Hughesthough yeah that's different Felicity um I if it was something like we're moving in 3 weeks and you don't have a say I don't care how you feel I would be really upset by that I would want to
04:47:30
Brian Atlastalk about mind you he's he's married too right I think that'd be maybe a big ask if it's just like a girl you've been dating for a year he's married you know yeah um I think I think I would pref prefer a compromise but if he was
04:47:42
Felicity Hughesexpressing something to me that I could tell he really felt strongly about then I would I would be open to his perspective I think in a marriage um he
04:47:54
Arielultimately would get final say if it had to come down to that H okay Ariel what do you think um for that specific situation if I'm married to
04:48:04
Arielsomebody I want them to be able to lead and me be able to trust them um that's why we got married in the first place I wouldn't be with you I would what about
04:48:15
Emilyyou ideally yes although I do question whether or not I would follow through on that consistently I'm not married yet you you question if you would actually
04:48:25
Emilysubmit is that what you're saying yes yeah your boyfriend's like do the laundry and you're like well here's the thing here's the thing about my
04:48:37
Emilyboyfriend or my fiance he's very introverted and he is very agreeable so and I'm almost completely the opposite you're
04:48:48
Emilydisagreable okay for a woman yes I'm very disagreeable so yeah so he's he's like go with the flow yeah but the problem
04:48:57
Emilywith that is that it'll degenerate into him not communicating things when he ought to communicate them and then I also have to like pick up the end of that of like trying to look for things
04:49:10
Emilythat he's not communicating and then I'll be like and then it'll be like oh I've been pissed off about this for 8 months and I'm like why the hell didn't you say anything yeah oh okay um but so wait in that situation if he is someone
04:49:22
Alexawho's so go with the F cuz like he's he's that way too like he's very very chill about most things so if your fiance actually does vocalize hey this does bother me I I do really feel strongly about this oh yeah don't you think you hold it in higher regard
04:49:36
Emilybecause you're like wow he really doesn't ever give his opinion on yeah way more I'm like oh crap I really [ __ ] up by like not noticing this and now I I absolutely have to follow through on it cuz I'm like uh but I just can't I just can't even imagine a situation in which he would come to me
04:49:48
Emilylike we're doing this I'd probably laugh at him because I'm like okay what's you laugh at your how like 5e boyfriend what the f 5 years and 8 months but it's my fiance but uh yeah
04:50:00
Brian AtlasI just he would never you're so unaccustomed to it you would laugh because of that yeah because I wouldn't think he was serious oh wait I have a question for you is he the type who's like
04:50:10
Brian Atlashe's like uh maybe maybe you would ask hey what do you want for for dinner and he would say whatever you want babe would you say something like that is he is he like that okay well I would say more
04:50:23
Emilyrecently after watching the podcast he's become more assertive sometimes I'll just not eat like this know I'm not you're letting your man starve yo are you blink twice if she's don't make us
04:50:35
Brian Atlasstarve by no means he sometimes he's just like is he like chained up in the basement like what's going on I'm kidding like to be more dominant in the relationship when I met him he was he
04:50:47
Emilywas he has eating disorder what no okay so I'm pretty sure he's autistic sweet yeah so I I think a lot like genuinely I think a lot of things stem from that but it but he he doesn't eat no no it's not
04:50:59
Brian Atlasthat he doesn't eat he's just like he'll just be like oh I'll just eat a protein bar is he like on a a fast no he's just is he um is he protesting like a political thing like he's he's fasting
04:51:10
Brian Atlasright now he's protesting not getting what he wants right in that moment but not wanting to go get prot has he ever done what it's what what's it called when you you won't eat it's a is it a
04:51:20
Brian Atlasfast fast no no but like in a form of protest it's a food protest talk about but uh hunger strike thank you d w guys
04:51:32
Brian AtlasW is in the chat for [ __ ] Damian [ __ ] 300 IQ back there no no in [ __ ] um wait has he ever done a [ __ ] strike I'm that's so out of pocket I am
04:51:44
Emilyone of two people he's ever slept with and so it's like like like to me yeah uh like you know how sometimes girls be withholding sex no he's never done he's withholding dick has he ever done that
04:51:56
Brian Atlaslike like maliciously like sometimes you got to put a girl in check and you got to withhold the dick no no like you ain't acting right no dick for you he's not no he's not like that you got to you got to use that tool Ariel knows what I'm talking you got to use that tool
04:52:08
Brian Atlaslike no dick for you lady that's [ __ ] up with withheld withheld do the dishes do the laundry bow I actually bowed to him and he laughed he and then you think
04:52:20
Brian Atlashe bowed back that's interesting it was super yeah I know that's what I'm saying I'm just saying super interesting he's an interesting guy any guys in
04:52:29
Brian Atlasrelationships right now I'm just try try out the the dick strike just try it I'm just saying just try it out it works it seems be working for with the exception of my partner please you got to you got
04:52:41
Brian Atlasto make the dick less available because if you make the dick less available then then she's going to get with the pro she's going to get on the program you know what I mean like pH Felicity knows like your boy your your boyfriend's been
04:52:53
Brian Atlaslike he's done a couple dick strikes right no never dick strike no never no that's why you chased him yeah or he
04:53:05
Brian Atlashe chased you or in the streets um I chased him with the car he Chas me he Chas me oh on the story is changing what the [ __ ] look I'm just I'm just
04:53:15
Brian Atlassaying sometimes you got to get a girl in check withdraw the dick it works withdraw the dick is it working well she
04:53:25
Brian Atlasstill here she loves me draw the dick question has a guy ever dick striked any of you no no no you've never the guy's never
04:53:37
Emilybeen like I've got a headache I'm tired I feel gross okay wait no that it did happen to me in a different relationship but also I actually read
04:53:47
Emilyabout this I was like the the the guy who was like my best friend but he said he was gay but then definitely not gay like to say the
04:53:57
Emilyleast and he was like super manipulative though and I ended up so yeah he would he would be like oh well you can't be in a bad mood or then he would start treating me shitty and then it was weird
04:54:09
Brian Atlasit was very short Liv but he was also like a APR so yeah I didn't feel too bad about it goodness cous so we wait we were going
04:54:18
Ashleyaround the table on [ __ ] I forgot oh if yes I would do whatever my husband felt right for our family you you would do whatever up okay that's dope wait but
04:54:28
Brian Atlashow did we get she went into detail about her husband and how her husband's introvert okay fi fiance sorry well if it comes to me I'll come back to it but uh let's do the in or wait the Instagram
04:54:41
Brian Atlasreacts or were we going to react to something no we did we did the clip let's do the Instagrams oh before we before you pull it up we'll do one in the time so ladies some of you are single some of you are in
04:54:53
Brian Atlasrelationships these are uh male friends of these are friends of mine acquaint some acquaintances some some uh I'm I'm trying to get these guys a date you know so I'm I'm going to set you guys up I'm
04:55:05
Brian Atlasgoing to show you a couple guys you tell me if you'll date them okay okay let's pull it up uh so this this is Zach scroll down a little bit scroll down um great guy he's
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Arielin Texas but he'll come to you or actually no you probably have to go to him uh scroll down just scroll down to the very bottom he seems silly so this
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Brian Atlasis z the super and click the one with the axe so look a lot of you guys want a guy who can protect you perfect he's got it he's got this unlocked so going
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Bailey Janearound the table would you date Zach can't handle me huh Can't Handle Me Can't Handle Me can't handle what he can't handle her what about you what do
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Bailey Janeyou mean can't handle my energy your energy my being your being he can't how do you know because what if you can't handle none of my none of my soulmates
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Emilycould even my past soulmates could so they couldn't handle you I what does that mean I guess she's unlovable truth something's deeply wrong with her I'm just kidding I don't know what that I
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Bailey Janemean do you think deeply wrong with you um I think it's like really just my truth is hard for them to accept even if it's their truth in a way too and they just aren't ready what is your truth
04:56:21
Bailey Janeeverybody's does it align with objective Truth by chance wait what I feel like that's a good place to
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Bailey Janestart I don't know but anyways next I don't want to get too deep into all this cuz I feel like people are not ready slow and 5
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Emilyhours crazy my back hurts I don't know slow and steady okay uh would you date them I
04:56:51
Brian Atlashave a boyfriend if you were single if you were single no no no no no no I'm happy in a relationship okay next sorry
04:57:02
Brian AtlasZach I tried next time I'll get it you know we've had success in the past can't can't win them all okay this is uh Felix scroll scroll
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Brian Atlasdown um yeah there's there's some photos ripped shredded who are these guys he's a scamer yeah oh all right
04:57:25
Brian Atlasthat's Felix good guy he's a Canadian or something that's his ex-girlfriend don't worry about we don't talk about her we don't we don't talk about her would you
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Emilydate him I'm going to say maybe actually for him maybe can he handle your energy whatever the [ __ ] it is that needs to be handled more than a lot of people bro wait how do you know what's the metric
04:57:44
Emilylike I'm intrigued because Brian can't handle your energy I don't know what it ising well this is hard oh please share with
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Bailey Janethe class I've been waiting all podcast he's more in the public eye I guess but really who he hangs out with and who he's hung out with recently and
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Brian AtlasI'm not getting into that cuz again it's crazy oh it's crazy so that's like the perfect word asmin Gold's not in the public eye Felicity strange um he actually kind of looks like my boyfriend
04:58:17
Brian Atlasand some of the pictures but I'm going to say no cuz I have a boyfriend he kind of looks like you a little bit like that picture like that picture that we did it look I can kind of see it okay what
04:58:28
Elinamaybe maybe okay yeah no cuz I have a girlfriend he has to unbleach the hair and delete the
04:58:37
Brian AtlasInstagram no in Soviet Russia say it in Russian can you say that in
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Brian AtlasRussian all right what about you no no you're so cool okay next like we got some may Felix so if you want reach out I'll get you guys
04:58:59
Brian Atlasconnected yall have matching hair like eccentric hair it could work all right this is Kai that uh let's scroll down K are there any actual photos that like oh
04:59:11
Brian Atlaswait there is is scroll down scroll down 13 million followers yeah he's he's he's a famous okay scroll
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Emilyback up to the top what is what is he famous for streaming he's a streamer gaming like twitch uh click click on the center one let's see the rest of the
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Brian Atlasimages just scroll okay that's what he looks like let's see some more let's see some more I like the Hat the hat is good oh that watch is kind of cool yeah yes he got some so going around the table do
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Bailey Janeyou would you date Kai also same thing with the last guy yeah I feel like they can handle me more and Kai's more my type physically but the other guy I've actually been with
04:59:56
Bailey Janesomeone that looks almost exactly like him which is kind of crazy wait k no the your other or the other guy the last guy actually Ben was someone that kind of looks like him but Kai is more my type physically but I think both of them
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Bailey Janesince they're in the public gu and they hang around the certain people they hang around they can handle me more more more they handle easier I still can't say maybe they can't handle my life but it's
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Felicity Hughesokay oh what about you um I think I actually used to have a crush on him not that long ago but I wouldn't now because I boyfriend if you if you were single
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Bailey (Philly)hypo this is totally hypothetical um if I was single yeah and we got along sure okay no because I think he's in the public eye too much
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Arieltoo much okay um he has a good style I like somebody that can dress but no delete the
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Brian AtlasInstagram so no flip phones no no all right next one we got like two more okay uh we have speed here all right uh
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Brian Atlasscroll down a little bit we'll just see are these actually your friend this guy yeah all right there he is so young all right that's fine you can scroll back up okay so uh what did
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Bailey Janeyou date speed he's too crazy for me and that's that's saying something for me cuz my life is crazy you couldn't handle him is what you're saying in a physical sense no in a physical what the [ __ ]
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Bailey (Philly)okay Felicity I used to have a crush on him too oh wow you got a type or something okay I know you lied earli wait so yes or no uh maybe maybe okay um
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Bailey (Philly)no he's crazy like very eccentric isn't he like 19 yeah he's 19 no all right if he was a bit older no okay he
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Elinascreams a little too much I like to be quiet and mellow say in
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Brian AtlasRussian nice what about you no actually okay is there there's one more I think all right last
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Brian Atlasone all right scroll down scroll down it's like y'all take who is this Diva I feel like I recogniz all right so
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Brian Atlasnever okay I you go I'm just online he's got he's got style he's got some whoa
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Brian Atlasokay I don't know what that was um he he he's you know the hoodies and stuff and that's good all right we get
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Felicity Hugheswe get the idea uh do you date them no cuz he's playing games too much too much video games and I love game I love gaming but what about you would you date him uh yeah because I like the videos of
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Brian Atlashis cat that I see on Tik Tok who this is the most enthusiastic you've been any oh boy so there you go what about you um
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Arielno no he seems silly though so yes nah not not even one date not even one date or just like dude I feel like I'd go get like ice cream with him or something just a tip just for a second
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Ashleyjust to see how it feels Alina chill guy but no okay maybe to meet the cat but no Ashley no you don't like chubby guys I I just don't like guys who sit at
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Brian Atlashome and play video comes all day all right that's fair that is fair oh we have a chat that came in here Michael Jones sorry for the delay on this I do apologize we were in the middle of the
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Brian Atlasosmo on a scale of 1 to 10 you can't say three uh asmin gold here pull it back up if you still have it uh he's that first guy that we looked at so uh just we'll
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Brian Atlasgive you guys a little reminder in case uh yeah there he is um rate him on a scale of 1 to 10 if he's funny a little
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Brian Atlasbit more but I'm must say I'm must say three you you can't say three oh four my bad I already um one because he looks
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Felicity Hugheslike my stepdad oh no he looks like your stepdad yeah I mean shouldn't he be a 10 then no yeah what are you saying I don't
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Brian Atlasknow okay what about you um two
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Brian Atlasdo a bit of the questionnaire uh and then we'll try to get this uh wrapped hopefully on the sooner side uh we did Ash's notes we did
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Brian AtlasBailey we still have some of your other stuff to do but uh we did this Bailey's notes oh we the marriage yeah I'm anti-marriage I mean we can have like a two-minute
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Brian Atlasquickie on the you're you're good yeah okay well I'm I I don't think men should get married okay I think they should okay why I think most people here
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Bailey (Philly)would agree with me why yeah most women would agree with you why do you want to get married yeah he's he's he's Christian but not a woman what no you um
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Bailey (Philly)no uh the legal aspects also um how it kind of it shows commitment um that sort of thing um and well what's the reason why you don't want to get married or why you think it's not mean I'll address the
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Brian Atlascommitment thing what couldn't I just make a reverse argument a woman who's willing to stay with you absent marriage is more committed to you
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Bailey (Philly)um I mean in I think that yeah like I think getting married I think that's like a big step towards you know
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Bailey (Philly)being like what's it called like being one like I I think that's being what do you mean so you're talking on the spiritual like Unity like just no but um you I mean yes I mean
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Mason Gregoirethat's a Biblical reference yeah are you are you Christian oh yeah you oh okay all right what denomination um
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Brian Atlasnon-denominational H okay uh yeah I mean so I understand I guess the justifications for why like the I mean the sole justification for a Christian man to get married is because
05:09:19
Brian Atlasof the faith but in terms of like if you actually look at the uh uh in addition to Faith benefits there are really
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Brian Atlasnone that would weigh against the negative outcomes did you go go ahead I was going to say do you want kids yeah why do I do you do I need to get married to have
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Bailey Janekids um it's just I feel like more likely than not the woman's not going to want to I'm sure you can find one that will but it's just like the extra security yeah sure she might be more willing to want to have kids with the
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Bailey Janeprotection of marriage but and also there's the all these marriage sets that keep keep coming out recently and they're all like men are happier in marriages than women usually and if that's what you're kind of worried about her not being as happy then I get that
05:10:07
Brian Atlasin that sense maybe but not in the sense that I think you're trying to make yeah I'm not sure what that means but um hold on I'm going to answer that
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Bailey Janehe killed his wife um okay really quick on marriage I don't we won't linger too long on the marriage topic but so what was your so there's a lot of stats coming out recently that say that men are supposedly more happy than in in marriages than women because of a lot of
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Bailey Janethings that are happening within these marriages but that's what I was saying I guess in I was saying well maybe if you care about the woman's happiness then therefore I can see maybe
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Brian Atlasnot wanting it and having like a reasonable yeah I mean so I guess what I'm trying to get though cuz you say well it's for the for the woman for the woman for the woman you I think you also said that um the woman if you're not
05:11:37
Brian Atlaswilling to marry her she might be hesitant to like yeah pursue some like have children with you because she has concerns there but I'm still not actually hearing a reason like a compelling argument for why the
05:11:49
Brian Atlasguy I know how that's good for you guys the woman like and you could say by proxy by extension like if it's good for her it's good for you or whatever but like where's the actual benefit to the guy because I can give you all the
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Bailey Janenegatives but why one of you if you're trying to convince me give me a positive yeah I feel like women also are more willing to submit if they're in a marriage of course they probably won't
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Bailey Janeas much and or do as much that's just something or they should anyway do that if they love themselves but you're right nowadays there's a lot of women that don't that aren't doing that and they
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Bailey Janeshould be I mean I think women should submit right away um yeah it depends I me y'all it depends who how much money you guys are making and your energy levels well let me ask the girls here a
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Brian Atlasquestion just quick show of hands uh do you want a guy to pay for the first date on the date show of hands High please yes yes yes yes yes you don't care yes yes so it's like hold on but
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Brian Atlasyou're not married why do you expect the guy to fall into his traditional gender roles you're not married yet if I'm using your logic all the girls here would have to be like oh okay we're going to go 50/50 until we're married
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Brian Atlasbut most women don't move like that right so this idea that oh I'm only going to submit when we're married okay then you can protect yourself until we're married you can we we can share leadership until we're married so you
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Brian Atlasgot to ask me out at the same rate that I asked you out I'm talking more broadly speaking with you know women uh you guys have to initiate dates you guys got to initiate sex you got to initiate the first kiss you got to do all the things
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Bailey Janethat you guys kind of look to men to do that's got to be 50/50 now you got to pay for dates you got to do everything in that case I feel like also if you do get married it should be the same then
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Bailey Janebecause if you're dating someone that is going 50-50 the whole time I don't know I had it in my head sorry I just got to brain part but yeah I just feel like if you're only going 50/50 the whole time
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Brian Atlasuntil marriage I wouldn't even want to marry that person if I wanted him to provide more because I would want to see it before the marriage but you're just so your argument for why a guy should get married is she's going to be
05:13:54
Brian Atlassubmissive in the marriage well like if she was like combative before the marriage in the relationship and she's like no no no but just you wait and see make this massive commitment to me then I'll be submissive
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Bailey JaneI'll be like I guess it kind of two-way street I Street a little bit like you should also are we talking about financially only or are we talking about like everything well now I'm talking you said submission you were talking about the
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Brian Atlaswoman being submissive yeah it's like you got to you got to lead with that as a woman oh you'll be submissive 3 months into the relationship you'll be submissive uh when we're
05:14:30
Brian Atlasmarried it ain't going to materialize once we're married trust me like if you're combative now it's going to be way worse when once you got me on lock once you have me locked down and then I
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Emilyget [ __ ] if I divorce you you got to it's got to be upfront with submission what's up what if we got rid of no fault divorce would that change your mind oh what do you mean no fault no fault divorce whenever they feel you have to
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Brian Atlasbe you have you'd have to you know essentially I'm actually not in favor of that because like women would just like [ __ ] lie oh I can't get out of marriage okay he abused me okay what if this was like 150 years ago what do you
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Emilymean would you I mean I'm trying to understand understand if if you disagree with the fundamental basis of marriage or if it's just in the context of Western mod I don't know about the dating meta 150 years ago I'm just talking about do you believe in God how
05:15:19
Brian Atlaswhat how is that relevant just as it pertains to like the religious Faith you're going to have to before I answer that question you're going to have to explain to me how it pertains at all to the conversation of marriage because I
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Ashleythink if you I mean if I'm I'm secular okay wait but I have a question cuz I know that you want like a high value woman and I feel like value women want to be married before they have kids and
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AshleyI don't know how you're going to find someone to have kids with if that's the kind of woman you're looking for but you don't want marriage uh she's going to have to fall into my friend like are you submissive
05:15:55
Brian Atlasokay here's how it's going to be you're not getting married sorry like for example even in the Christian faith I'm pretty sure look I'm not a theological expert or anything uh if there was like a state entity the government that was
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Brian Atlaslike okay we're going to basically persecute Christians because you guys desire getting married in order for men to get married they have to cut off their arm okay and then if you do get married even privately we're going to persecute
05:16:20
Brian Atlasyou anyway like if you try to do it like you can't get a marriage license if you're Christian so look I don't know what the theological answer to this is but I'm pretty sure like actually I feel like me
05:16:32
Brian Atlasand Andrew debated this and he was like no the Christian men would just like in some crazy hypothetical where it was impossible for them to get married and
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Brian Atlas[ __ ] whatever this is so Niche whatever um the the my position is the state the State of Affairs when it comes
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Brian Atlasto the law and marriage is so biased against men and just totally destroys men it is not it's just not the
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Brian Atlasright move it's a massive liability and because the state it's all [ __ ] up I think I I have no quals with men not willing to be married what about the legal
05:17:13
Brian Atlasaspect power of attorney um survivor benefits we just met today could I give you power of attorney over me no yes I could I could literally give
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Brian Atlasyou power of attorney right now can you I don't know okay yes we don't you you can all of the um there's a I think it's
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Brian Atlascalled an advanced [ __ ] something like an advanced medical directive or something I don't know there's a different term for it I don't know the exact term uh yes I could
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Bailey (Philly)give somebody uh what's the there's a specific term for it essentially yes I can make somebody my power of attorney well what if you're
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Bailey (Philly)in the hospital and you're not married and like your significant other like would want to visit you in the hospital like or make a call for sorry a medical
05:18:06
Brian Atlasemergency or something would you want that um I mean I'm pretty sure that uh I look I'm not I don't know the the different hospital hospitals have
05:18:15
Brian Atlasdifferent policies can somebody who's not like immediate family or your spouse can they visit you in the hospital I don't know um this still isn't really a compelling enough reason to get married
05:18:29
Ashleylike okay in the event that I'm [ __ ] dying like I'm [ __ ] dead whatever do you think you feel that way because of like the way Society is today like if you were like if this is like the 50s would you still feel that way about
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Brian Atlasmarriage uh I'd probably feel differently about it sure yeah um but uh yeah there's just certain legal ramifications but um I mean pretty much
05:18:52
Brian Atlaswith the legal stuff though I could give I could write can somebody in the chat tell me is it like an advanced Healthcare directive or something that would allow like a girlfriend I could be
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Bailey (Philly)like here you can come see me in the H I don't know um are there any any other compelling Arguments for why men should get married though or just like because if you're married when you do divorce
05:19:14
Bailey (Philly)you know having that contract I guess um you know if it's like a prenup or like splitting assets or maybe splitting debt or like who gets what that's like
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Bailey (Philly)contractually there so you're in favor prenups I think it depends on the relationship but I think if people want it I would get a PR your boyfriend's bread winner he's like I want you to
05:19:36
Brian Atlassign this prup you going to sign it yeah you won't feel like you don't trust me blah blah blah you would say Okay um some women will feel that type of way but
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Brian Atlasuh so but if if I'm not married I don't need a prenup I don't need any of that so why should I get
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Bailey (Philly)married well I'm just saying like I don't know I feel like the legal aspects is like kind of secondary and then the most important part is I guess is just
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Bailey (Philly)like the unity and then also um you know just having that trust and everything and being a um you know like like you
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Bailey (Philly)said um like a more how did you phrase it like what like a powerful woman or I don't know the exact yes a high value just like high value women I think that
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Brian Atlasplay is the most important important aspect so yeah I I actually agree with this point so I agree with Ashley that by virtue of me not not wanting to get married I'm I'm going to probably lose
05:20:40
Brian Atlascertain dating prospects don't care okay don't care okay plenty of fish in the sea okay and I mean if she's really
05:20:48
Brian Atlasabout me here's the thing like she has to she has to come into like you you guys might not agree with this but what here's my view when it comes to a
05:20:59
Brian Atlasrelationship it's got to be my way you might think Brian that's [ __ ] crazy look you guys want us to lead you want us to take the initiative you want us to provide like if with the girl like
05:21:12
Brian Atlasjust to be clear I'm not like some Playboy that's trying to [ __ ] 10 different chicks Dan Bill zerion that type of [ __ ] I like relationships right
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Brian Atlasbut I don't feel like I could have a lifelong dater uh be with this woman for the rest of my life have kids all that I don't think I need marriage to have that
05:21:33
Bailey Janethough and if you're really about me you're going to be like I don't I love you I don't need it I've seen this work before oh my bad
05:21:44
Alexaum but they didn't have kids but yeah there's a lot of people that do and I get it like I think there's something valuable in the sense of in especially in relationships a lot of people Everyone always says when
05:21:57
Alexapeople break up like oh communication wasn't like the strongest or like that's usually an issue that people have I think there's something very pivotal about saying I am going to make a public declaration that you are going to be the
05:22:08
Alexaperson that I choose to go through life with I think that alone a lot of people in relationships will pause and go I don't know if I want to make that commitment to the person that I'm dating right now I think it I think for two
05:22:19
Alexareasons it's beneficial in the sense of really saying one really having you analyze is the person that you're spending your time with and the person that you're committing your your valuable time the one thing you can never get back the thing you are
05:22:30
Alexachoosing to build a life with someone I'm willing to put it all in front of everyone put my heart in line to to say to you this this is the commitment I'm making to you as a person cuz you can say yeah you can build a life with
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Alexasomeone without getting married I know people that have been dating for a long time but the thing about it is usually when life gets hard that's their they don't have to stay with you they've
05:22:54
Alexanever made that commitment if if if you get into a motorcycle accident and you don't know if you're going to be walking again like I mean I had a lot of people tell me hey you're not married to this guy like you can walk away you so I
05:23:06
Alexathink I think it's more of like when life gets hard when you lose your job cuz if you're if you're really with someone and you're not married when you lose your job and you can't provide if you're the bread winner the girl can leave and you know it's it's those
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Alexathings of actually having someone say no I'm choosing to go through life with you stand by your side and I've made that commitment to you I think that's that holds a lot of weight and a lot of people look at their relationships differently when they do that cuz I know
05:23:31
Alexaguys who will build a life with a girl and then they're like but I can't make that commitment to marry her cuz I just I don't see her as that and I'm like like wow that's e like E I think even
05:23:42
Alexaguys who don't get married often hold so much value and weight on marriage for that reason I mean you can make the public statement without getting legally married well and that's the thing that a
05:23:53
Alexalot of people like you can you can have the entire wedding you can do it if you if the celebration is what the girl wants and that no one ever goes to you and says hey let me see your marriage license like I want proof you did it so you technically could actually do the entire ceremony and everyone thinks that
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Alexayou're married you call them your wife the only thing is you don't do the taxes you know you would file as single but like past that you've you've made that public declaration I think that would even be really interesting for people to say like I but I do think there's
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Alexasomething that really holds weight to say I am going to I'm going to State my claim and I'm going to put myself out there and say this is the person that I choose to go through life with and I
05:24:27
Brian Atlasthink that's where it's really valuable secular or not like well I mean I guess but the issue is is that if you look at the divorce rate people make this de
05:24:38
Brian Atlasation they have the they get the marriage license they do the um the ceremony the wedding ceremony and the divorce rate is still
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Alexareally really high but so you know that divorce rate is actually skewed because majority I think it's what 58% of people that get divorced people who Remar here's the thing it's like it's like 50
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Alexaor 6 it's 58 or 68% I think of people remarry within 5 years of getting a divorce so if someone's already gone through something that is so tragic so heartbreaking all this why are these people signing up to do it again there
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Alexais some value in that cuz think if if You' got burned and you you've touched the sow and you got burned but you choose to do it again and so many people choose to do it again there is that weight and that that commitment they
05:25:25
Alexathey actually can speak to the fact they're like no I actually want to get married again I do think there's a difference in that cuz I think there's a difference when you can say like there's a saying like if you want to if you want to take the island you got to burn the
05:25:37
Alexaboats when people say oh I want to move in together before we get married because I want to see if we would get along that's very different than if you say hey we're married we have to get along so how are we going to make this
05:25:47
Alexawork there's a very different level of I can just go or I can dip out it's no okay now we're married now we live together I don't like the way you fold your clothes and you don't like the way I put the dishes you can't just leave now we actually have to figure this out
05:26:00
Alexaand I think that's a very different weight that you have like if you have siblings and you're a kid and you fight with your sibling your parents are like figure it out you have you don't have a Choice y'all are under the same roof you can't go and leave so I think I think that's where marriage really holds a lot
05:26:13
Alexaof value is you're not only saying hey I'm going to go through life with this person but I'm choosing to figure this out and go through the hard things with you versus just tapping out and starting over let me let me ask you a question
05:26:23
Brian Atlasthough um what do you think about this scenario uh men women they get married there's no abuse he treats her well
05:26:31
Brian Atlastreats the kids well MH um no abuse reminder there she's just vaguely unhappy vaguely
05:26:41
Alexaunhappy should she get a divorce no and so okay one thing I will say so this is where this is one of the hard conversations that him and I had to have is what are your thoughts on a prenup and we actually differ I'm for a prenup
05:26:54
Alexaand he's not and I think that a prenup should actually yeah and it was something that he was really surprised when I brought it up get the prenup but so here's the
05:27:04
Alexathing Bas I think marriages is as a law abiding you are signing a contract I think you have every right in the contract to make divorce as hard as possible so like in my prup I want to say if you want to divorce me if you
05:27:17
Alexawant if you want if you choose to cheat on me and leave me for another woman you got to you leaving me with everything the only way so no like is not a reason so generally when she when we had this
05:27:30
Mason Gregoireargument this disagreement and she said she wanted a prup generally what people assume from a prup and I know this is like to protect to prot well yeah so it's to protect a man but like to be like okay we're going to we're going to
05:27:43
Mason Gregoireprepare for the divorce before before it even happens when she explained what she meant by a prenup I I'm actually more on board with it because essentially her version of the prenup is to make the
05:27:54
Mason Gregoiredivorce as hard as possible it's making like the decision if I wanted to get a divorce it would make it infinitely more difficult for me to get the divorce like
05:28:05
Mason Gregoireif I initiate it I would give up everything of that I own it all become hers or if she initiated the divorce she would lose everything and I was like I'm totally for that I actually love that idea the thing with a prenup too is that
05:28:17
Emilyno if you get legally married it's a contractual obligation it's just whether or not the state makes it or whether or not you make it and the state changes the laws all the time which is another thing especially with how this the laws
05:28:28
Mason Gregoirehave been changing in women's favor I I I kind of like I mean I go as far to say that um I I don't believe that there should be a government uh like litigation in marriage like I
05:28:41
Mason Gregoirethink wouldn't that make you in support of a prenup then I mean but then arguably you could fight a PR like there's no registering with the government that you're married like I think it only should be something that the church deals with I think the government should have no say nothing
05:28:55
Mason Gregoirelike there's no benefits that the government gives you no like contract contractual obligations I actually support that I'm only for like the
05:29:04
Mason Gregoirechurch cuz I mean uh nowhere in the Bible does the God talk about uh getting married as something that the government should be involved with it is literally only between the church God and the two
05:29:16
Emilypeople getting married well yeah and I can definitely understand why Brian doesn't want to get married because and I used to have different feelings about this but I mean women are arguably depending on the state that you you're
05:29:27
Emilyin arguably incentivized to get divorced especially if they're dating up like we tend to because again you I mean you can say hypergamy isn't a thing you can say you don't care about this and that you
05:29:37
Emilydo generally it's a thing it um so you know if that's the expectation if that's how relationships tend to go and then the other side of it too is that women initiate most divorces because they
05:29:50
Emilyexperience higher rates of negative emotion so they tend to be at any given time the unhappier person in the relationship that's why like relationships between like lesbian relationships have like a 90 or a
05:30:02
Alexa75% separation or divorce rate once they get married it's it's absolutely insane well I think that's going back to like what I was saying earlier about with the marriage I I think people one I think
05:30:13
Alexapeople need to do a much better job about vetting the person that they marry I think you really have to think like okay you know everything is good right now but if when push comes to shove when life goes bad is this person resilient
05:30:26
Alexais this do I like their character are these the things that I'm focusing on I think a prenup is something that like you can make it into in favor of the marriage I think a lot of people always look at it as like worst case scenario but it's like no I want I want it to say
05:30:39
Alexaif he decides to leave me 30 years from now for a 22-year-old he has to he has to Forfeit everything like I want him to really think about those things and I think that's where people don't necessarily view a prup I think they
05:30:50
Alexaalways think of it as just like division of the assets but there's so much more that you can actually say like hey no I I want to make sure that you were going to stick by me through and through and you were going to it's going to be so hard for you to you can't just walk away
05:31:03
Alexaand I think because a lot of women and it is sad that a a lot of divorces are initiated by women it's they're not leaving cuz they're unhappy it's cuz they think they can be happier somewhere else the grass is greener where you
05:31:13
TTS/Donationswater it not where not on the other side got a chat coming in here from Chris I see your super chat too Chris we'll get to it $200 41 make 2 million a year not
05:31:24
TTS/Donationsmarried to my girl she can make financial and medical decisions for me if I am unable VI the trust and power of attorney yep men who are winning and aware do not get
05:31:36
Brian Atlasmarried are you a where yo Chris thank you for the uh TTS it's a good point and I do think I was correct I wasn't I was a little uncertain but I do believe it is called an advanced Medical directive
05:31:48
Brian Atlasand then the power of attorney would also Grant the Advanced Medical directive would be simply if you wanted somebody to be able to make uh medical decisions for you the power attorney they can make decisions about pretty much everything you know money Health uh
05:32:01
Brian Atlasmaybe I don't know what the other uh areas of that would be but um yeah so um anyways look really quick
05:32:10
Brian Atlaswith the prenups I think um it's kind of like prenups if the woman's motivated
05:32:20
Brian Atlasenough oh I it was uh I was coerced to sign it like bro you can get out of it you can challenge it anything can be legally challenged in especially in the United States it's fairly uh actually I
05:32:33
Brian Atlasheard maybe this isn't the case but it's fairly litigious and um you know people are kind of su hungry so you can challenge it it'll just create conflict I'm just personally not in favor of marriage I think there's the divorce
05:32:45
Brian Atlasrat's really bad women overwhelmingly initiate breakups they overwhelmingly initiate divorces and ultimately when it comes to marriage marriage is a contract uh even if you're religious if you're
05:32:57
Brian Atlasmarried the state presides over your marriage not the church not God when you go and get divorced you're going to go talk to some atheist attorney who