Elon Musk Has Baby With Whatever HATER?! Mason! Is She CRAZY?! VIRAL Mugshawty? | Dating Talk #228
Date: 2025-02-17
Duration: 7h 39m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_01Andrew Wilson (clip)(guest)
SPEAKER_02Bailey (Philly)(guest)
SPEAKER_03Alexa(guest)
SPEAKER_04Felicity Hughes(guest)
SPEAKER_05Ashley(guest)
SPEAKER_06Bailey Jane(guest)
SPEAKER_07News/TikTok Audio(audience)
SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_09Mason Gregoire(guest)
SPEAKER_10Elina(guest)
SPEAKER_12Ariel(guest)
SPEAKER_13Ashley St. Clair (clip)(audience)
SPEAKER_14Emily(guest)
Key Moments
00:00:13
IntroBrian Atlas introduces Dating Talk #228 with full show announcements
“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast...I'm your host Brian Atlas”
00:04:40
IntroBailey Jane introduces herself: 25yo, Illinois, creative/reseller/rapper/inventor. Very mysterious about her income sources and inventions.
“my name is Bailey Jane I'm 25 and my occupation is a creative”
00:09:15
IntroFelicity Hughes introduces herself: 18yo from Santa Barbara, dental assistant and business student
“my name is Felicity I'm 18 from Santa Barbara”
00:10:20
IntroBailey (Philly) introduces herself: 23yo from Central PA, BSBA in marketing/international business
“hi I'm Bailey I'm 23 and I just got my bsba in marketing and international business”
00:10:50
IntroAriel introduces herself: 24yo (birthday yesterday), Arizona/Santa Monica, bartender/model
“my name is Ariel I'm 23 well I'm 24 now my birthday was yesterday”
00:11:36
IntroElina introduces herself: 20yo, originally from Russia, Philadelphia, business student
“my name is Elina I'm 20 years old I am originally from Russia but I currently live in Philadelphia”
00:12:00
IntroEmily introduces herself: 24yo, Western Washington, BA Psychology, CPS social worker, dropped out MSW due to wokeness
“my name is Emily I am from Western Washington I just turned 24”
00:12:43
IntroAshley introduces herself: 25yo, San Diego, lash/nail tech and barista
“my name is Ashley I'm 25 I don't go to school”
00:12:55
IntroAlexa introduces herself: 29yo, Silicon Valley, eVTOL company, BS Business
“hi I'm Alexa I'm the old one at this table I just had a birthday so I'm 29 now”
00:13:24
IntroMason introduces himself: 28yo, NEET, bachelor in mechanical engineering. Brian acknowledges he's a top recurring guest.
“my name is Mason I am 28 years old...right now I have no job I'm a failure at life”
00:18:22
Key MomentMason shares full story of catastrophic motorcycle accident on September 11 — grade-4 aortic tear, 50 days in hospital, 12 operations, coma until end of September, near-death multiple times. Doctors say he is the topic at medical conferences. Credits fitness and faith for survival.
“on September 11th I got in a really bad motorcycle accident...I had a grade for aortic tear...about 90% of people who get that die”
00:26:35
Key MomentAlexa tells the story of how she met Mason: slid into his DMs after watching him on the podcast, prayed he would message her, eventually met for 4 hours in coffee shop. She stayed with him at the hospital for 3 weeks during recovery.
“I think he was on the podcast...I slid into his DMS...she stayed with me at the hospital for 3 weeks”
00:33:45
QuoteMason reveals he is a virgin, saving for marriage. Cites statistics on how more partners correlates with lower marriage success rates.
“I'm a virgin um yeah never been with a lady...saving it for marriage...extremely important to me”
00:35:31
RelationshipRelationship status round: Bailey Jane (single 2yr), Felicity (2yr relationship), Bailey Philly (single 1.5yr), Ariel (5mo w/ girlfriend), Elina (4yr relationship), Emily (engaged 5yr8mo), Ashley (single ~1yr), Alexa & Mason (together, met through show)
“uh what is your current relationship status”
00:37:32
ControversyFelicity "Taylor Drift" car chase story: played news TikTok of her police chase in Camarillo, charged with assault with deadly weapon and evading police after striking a patrol car. On diversion program. Gained 13k Instagram followers.
“driver at the wheel is alleged to be Felicity Hughes of Camarillo”
00:56:35
ControversyBrian discusses Ashley St. Clair announcing Elon Musk's 13th child — notable because she previously begged to be on Whatever then said the show "sucks," and also called for Brian to be deplatformed from YouTube.
“she made a tweet on Valentine's Day...she has a love child with Elon Musk”
01:01:08
QuoteEmily on the Ashley St. Clair situation: "I am not surprised for the amount of sh*t that she talked hypergamy seems to be rampant these days anyway"
“I am not surprised for the amount of sh*t that she talked hypergamy seems to be rampant these days”
03:04:55
Key MomentBrian vs Elina debate: do female incels exist? Brian says vanishingly rare — any woman willing to try can find sex. Elina argues they do exist even if uncommon. Brian offers to personally help a femcel as proof. Emily provides data point about My 600lb Life.
“if a woman is extremely ugly you think that she can get sex from a guy who is also extremely ugly sure yes”
03:25:35
Key MomentSelf-rating round (1-10, no 7): Bailey Jane=10, Felicity=5, Bailey Philly=6, Ariel=8.5, Elina=6.9, Emily=5, Ashley=6.5, Alexa=6.9, Mason=6.9, Brian=5. Chat GPT rated Brian 5-7.
“Stiffler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 you can't pick seven”
03:38:49
Key MomentElina argues women shouldn't be drafted but should have a birth draft (forced childbearing during war). Brian points out this is more extreme than being pro-life. Elina says she leans pro-life and would support it in extreme circumstances.
“women shouldn't be drafted...they should still be drafted just for non-combat roles”
04:42:12
Key MomentPanel reacts to Andrew Wilson clip about male authority in marriage — "I don't care to have my authority questioned." Alexa and Mason both support concept of male headship while emphasizing respect.
“this is from our good friend Andrew Wilson we...let's react to this”
05:07:50
Key MomentExtended marriage debate: Brian anti-marriage (legal contract biased against men, women initiate 70%+ of divorces, divorce incentivized). Alexa pro-marriage (public declaration, burning boats). Mason: government shouldn't be involved, only the church.
“I don't think men should get married”
05:31:22
QuoteChat donation from Chris ($200): "41, make 2 million a year, not married to my girl...created a trust and gave her power of attorney...men who are winning and aware do not get married"
“men who are winning and aware do not get married”
06:48:45
ControversyBailey Jane claims she moved to LA because she psychically knew about the fires 5-6 years in advance, and believes most LA fires were arson/blue beams not climate change.
“I moved to LA 5 years ago because of the fires...I knew it wasn't going to be climate change”
07:05:45
QuoteBailey Jane explains she dated a guy who was Emperor Augustus reincarnated — same birthday as Augustus's father, visited Getty Villa and he pointed out the Augustus bust. Also dated Abraham Lincoln reincarnated.
“he was Emperor Augustus...my ex was Emperor Augustus in his past life”
07:37:28
OtherBrian closes the show, raids W Grandma on Twitch (83-year-old playing World of Warcraft retail)
“she is playing World of Warcraft retail it looks like there it is there's the raid shout out hello whatever guys she's 83”
Topics Discussed
00:00:13
Introductions & Show Announcements
Host Brian Atlas introduces the show, guests introduce themselves with name/age/location/occupation/education. Mason shares his motorcycle accident story and recovery. Alexa describes how she met Mason through the podcast.
00:35:31
Relationship Status Round
All guests share current relationship status, longest relationship, and how they met partners. Felicity reveals her car chase viral story / Taylor Drift mugshot. Ariel discusses her bi identity and long-distance relationship. Emily reveals her engagement.
00:56:35
Ashley St. Clair / Elon Musk Baby News
Brian discusses conservative influencer Ashley St. Clair announcing a child with Elon Musk. Panel reacts to hypergamy, single motherhood, Elon's prolific fathering, her penthouse apartment. Discussion of her requesting deplatforming of Whatever in the past after begging to be on the show.
01:20:25
Mental Health & Medication Disclosures
Guests go around the table sharing diagnoses and medications. Bailey Jane: ADHD/mild autism (unmedicated). Bailey Philly: PTSD, depression, anxiety, possible BPD (Zoloft). Alexa: PTSD (unmedicated). Emily: ADHD + PTSD (Adderall). Elina: none.
03:04:55
Female Incels (Femcels) Debate
Extended debate about whether female involuntary celibacy exists. Brian argues it is vanishingly rare (women can always get sex if they try). Elina argues it does exist. Alexa/Emily provide nuance. Brian offers to personally help a femcel as proof. Discussion of male vs female dating effort.
03:25:35
Self-Rating Looks & Peak Age
Guests rate themselves 1-10 (no 7). Bailey Jane: 10. Felicity: 5. Bailey Philly: 6. Ariel: 8.5. Elina: 6.9. Ashley: 6.5. Alexa: 6.9. Mason: 6.9. Brian: 5. Discussion of when each woman will be at peak attractiveness.
03:35:00
Questionnaire Round — Dating Opinions
Pre-show questionnaire covered: men should pay first dates, women's makeup for men vs themselves, women shouldn't be drafted, gender pay gap, body counts, marriage pros/cons, prenups, ambition in men, age gap relationships, racial dating preferences, height minimums, income requirements, bear vs man in forest, men are physically stronger, passport bros warnings. Bailey Jane's long notes read aloud by Alexa.
04:07:53
Racial Dating Preferences
Panel discusses racial dating preferences. Bailey Philly brings up Oxford study (Asian woman + white man). Brian states his preferences (white/Asian/Latina). Emily (mostly dated white, one Filipino/Black). Bailey Jane (gravitates to Black men/Hispanic). Elina doesn't care. Ariel doesn't have strong preference.
04:42:25
Andrew Wilson Clip Reaction
Panel reacts to viral clip of Andrew Wilson (not present, at NJ debate convention) explaining that he gives his wife what she wants but has final say and doesn't care to have his authority questioned. Panel discusses male headship in marriage — Alexa and Elina largely agree with submission in marriage.
04:54:53
Instagram Matchmaking & Rating Male Influencers
Brian shows photos of male friends/acquaintances (Zach, Felix, Kai, Speed, another) asking panel if they'd date them. Also rates male influencers including Asmon Gold.
05:07:50
Marriage Debate
Brian explains his anti-marriage position (legal liability, women initiate divorces, no fault divorce). Alexa and Mason defend marriage (commitment, public declaration, burning the boats). Emily discusses prenups. Chat donation from Chris ($200) agrees with Brian: men who are winning don't marry.
05:44:00
Body Count Round
Guests share body counts. Felicity: 2. Ariel: ~7 women, ~5 men. Bailey Jane: refuses. Bailey Philly: refuses exact. Elina: 2. Emily: refuses. Ashley: refuses. Alexa: refuses. Mason: 0 (virgin). Brian does test of asking single women if they'd hook up with him — all decline.
06:26:00
Bailey Jane Past Lives / Psychic Discussion
Extended discussion of Bailey Jane's claims: past lives, twin flames, Emperor Augustus reincarnated ex, Abraham Lincoln reincarnated ex, Dua Lipa as Augustus's twin flame, moving to LA guided by universe for fires, blue beam conspiracy fires. Emily and Brian push back on the math/logic. Roast session from chat.
06:53:28
Makeup Removal Segment & Roast Session
Makeupremoval: Alexa and Elina wipe makeup. Roast session from chat — mostly targeting Bailey Jane's psychic claims and Felicity's car chase. Various donations read including OJ Simpson, Michael Jones, Randy.
07:20:00
Show Close & Final Questions
Rapid-fire questionnaire answers. Final TTS roasts. Emily discusses real gender pay gap being in dating. Brian wraps show, raids W Grandma on Twitch playing World of Warcraft.
Transcript
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02:46:06
Mason Gregoirebut the other side of the mouth they're totally fine with uh knowing that like their practice is very much men uh it's okay if men pay for me to fly out there pay for me to come to them they're
02:46:19
Mason Gregoirepaying for all the dates doing all these things for me I would never do something like that for them though because I'm a woman why would I ever do that they would probably never say that that's how they act so it's very much it it's very
02:46:29
Mason Gregoireconcerning to see most of America most of the world generally have take that point of view where they want the equity they say they want Equity but their life is nothing like that they cuz I mean
02:46:42
Mason Gregoireeveryone realizes inside of them they know God created them man and woman very differently and you're programmed intimately differently and that men and women are going to pursue relationships
02:46:54
Mason Gregoirethe way God programmed them too and it takes extreme deprogramming and extreme work there are very Fringe people on the outside who can actually who have actually worked hard enough to where
02:47:05
Mason Gregoirethey've cut that out of them but uh most of the time you can say something you can say you believe this but you act in a very specific way because God programmed you that way he's programmed women to look for a man who can provide
02:47:17
Mason Gregoirewho can protect uh who is going to lead the family that that is in you intimately and for a man he wants a woman uh I guess the the practice we see nowadays is sinful where it's very much
02:47:30
Mason GregoireI only look for her I only look at her looks am I attracted to her but men uh you once you boil it down they're looking for someone who is going to nurture and take care of the family um I
02:47:40
Mason Gregoiremean you turn to proverbs 31 um those are like the initial instigations of that passage however it talks about a woman who who is uh revered by the
02:47:50
Mason GregoireElders of the city someone who invests who uh does things out in the world but ultimately submits herself to his her husband's leadership I mean that's
02:48:03
Mason Gregoireintimately programmed and you see these things these practices in the dating relationship they mirror that and no matter what people say you see that so much and that actions speak louder than
02:48:15
Mason Gregoirewords you can say till you're blue in the face that you disagree with that however like most of society's actions say otherwise alen I have a question for you
02:48:25
Brian Atlasyes let's say um a male incel M came up to you like maybe it was a male I don't know if you'd be friends with a male incel but whatever uh comes up to you and he's like ah man I want to I want to
02:48:37
Brian Atlasget a girl like what would you ask of him like what would you tell him he needs to do to like make that happen like bullet point it for me I would ask him a lot of questions about his life
02:48:48
Elinalifestyle currently uh what do you do on a daily basis do you have a career going are you working out are you working on yourself sure do do you have a faith of
02:48:59
Brian Atlassome sort are you doing self-improvement sure yeah and but in terms of taking actionable steps to actually get laid Like You Can level up as a guy you can
02:49:09
Brian Atlasget your money up you can get ripped you can you can do all these things but as a guy you have to take some actionable steps to like talk to women meet women so like for example do you do you want
02:49:21
Elinato bullet point a couple things that the guy would have to do to get the girl well I think self-improvement would be the step that he would have to take before he is able to go and speak to
02:49:31
Brian Atlaswomen okay let's say he self- improves wait no no no hold on [ __ ] that no let's say he does [ __ ] that he doesn't have to self-improve he's like look um I've got a dad B right now whatever uh I just
02:49:43
Brian Atlaswant to get laid men with Dad bods other men with Dad bods can get laid I just want to get laid what does he actionably have to do to make that happen I would say bro most
02:49:54
Brian Atlaswomen don't like Dad bods that no no no okay here here I'll should he hop on some dating apps sure if he sees women out in public that he thinks are attractive should he
02:50:05
Elinaapproach them if he's at a low point where he's not reaching he's not working on reaching his full potential to where he can attract a woman that he that's a high value woman that he wants [ __ ] it
02:50:16
Elinadoesn't matter no he just wants to [ __ ] who cares High whatever low value he wants the [ __ ] what's he got to do he's got to approach girls right he's got to approach women right he has to have the things that women find attractive which
02:50:29
Brian Atlasis strength status money things like that okay but there's like average women who ostensibly should date average man right yeah okay not every woman's going to get like a man with status and strength and all that [ __ ] right right
02:50:41
Elinabut status doesn't have to be like you're a millionaire like you're the CEO of something it can be like you're assert you're assertive and dominant in a relationship fine here look I'll go ahead and Grant fine he levels up he
02:50:53
Brian Atlasneeds to level up now that he's leveled up what does he actionably have to do to get the girl get on dating apps cold approached girls maybe approach girls in public maybe go to bars and clubs right
02:51:05
Elinayes okay and then when he's at the bars and clubs he has to approach the girl right well women don't usually approach that often so unless he's very attractive so okay so he has to approach the girl right most he's got to learn
02:51:17
Elinahow to like talk and not be socially awkward yeah okay what do you ask of the woman then the fem cell I what does she have to do the fem cell yeah um I also asked that
02:51:29
Elinashe would work on herself because there are things that what does she have to do now that she's worked on herself does she have to do the same things that the man does she has to
02:51:40
Elinaapproach men yeah that's you have to okay take that step yeah she has to are not if men are not approaching her then she has to approach men okay so I guess here's my confusion here is as a woman
02:51:51
Brian Atlasif you approach a man and you make yourself sexually like apparently sexually available to him he's maybe it's not the first guy maybe it's not the second maybe it's not the third maybe it's the 10th maybe it's the 20th
02:52:04
Elinamaybe it's the 30th maybe it takes you a couple days maybe it takes you a couple weeks you're going to land on a dude who's going to [ __ ] you right but most women don't want to have that type of that nature of interaction with then
02:52:15
Mason Gregoirethey're not fem cells yeah they're not cells well is it's voluntary like if you're voluntarily celibate but it's involuntarily so like I'm going to drop every everything I'm actually looking
02:52:27
Mason Gregoirefor to try to see if I can get with somebody so I mean ultimately I think this is built upon and there is gender inequality in this which is I think it's good like I think God programmed men and
02:52:40
Mason Gregoirewomen very differently they have different roles that they're supposed to play and it's programmed into them before like as they were born because you're a man or a woman and for for men
02:52:52
Mason Gregoirelike because women naturally want that provider protector there's that you have to go into those areas where you have to be working out because you need to protect people you have to be making money because you need to be providing
02:53:04
Mason Gregoirefor people however for women it's little it's harder to see whether they can be nurturing to a family so and then generally guys they just look at a woman like oh my gosh she's so attractive I
02:53:15
Mason Gregoirewant to be with her so that's why it's impossible to find an actual fem cell because guys like their initial their initial attraction to a woman is very
02:53:25
Mason Gregoiremuch oh my gosh she's super physically attractive and for a for a woman she's attracted to a guy maybe they do find her him attractive however immediately turns them off when they realize oh he's
02:53:37
Mason Gregoirelazy he has no work ethic he's not a provider protector like if someone is going to go try to beat Alexa up I'm going to definitely step in and I'm going to like oh I'll beat the crowd they have him but it's doing those
02:53:50
Mason Gregoirethings but when you figure out that those aren't something that got that guy provides like that takes it's a lot more steps that the man has to take to be able to get into that position than a woman has to take to get into the position where men will want her and
02:54:03
Elinayeah that's you mean just sexually right yeah yeah yeah yeah I I am kind of like taking it in this argument like the sexual argument and I agree with that and you know men have lower men are less
02:54:14
Brian Atlaspicky obviously when it comes to oh boom I guess so they can't PE themselves or you are you gonna do you grant or no no I don't Grant okay well well I'll
02:54:22
Brian Atlascontinue then here how about this I Brian I'm only offering this to United States fem cells I will not [ __ ] buy
02:54:33
Brian Atlasinternational flights I Brian Atlas will [ __ ] one time you get one thrust that's it any United States I'm gonna you know
02:54:43
Brian Atlaswhat Hawaii and Alaska [ __ ] off continental United States [ __ ] um I will make myself sexually available to any fem
02:54:53
Brian Atlascell I've just there's no longer any fem cells in the United States when she shows up they they're no longer involuntary like I've just I've put forward an offer mhm for sex for sex and
02:55:06
Brian Atlasare you going to do it when she shows up and she's looking like she look all she just shower before that's it shave the bush if it's a [ __ ] jungle whatever
02:55:17
Emilylisten an inel would be willing to shave the bush for some P for some [ __ ] what if she doesn't have arms even better bro there are men that are not only into that which like my
02:55:29
Emilypartner was in the military and they are into some crazy [ __ ] but there are men that will have competitions with each other on who can get the the least attractive woman I feel like there's
02:55:40
Brian Atlasgirls that do this to there are again I I I live near the military folks they do I'm saying I'm making myself this is an offer I'm making myself I don't care if
02:55:51
Brian Atlasthere's 100,000 fem cells I will service you I need 30 minute break in between three per day that's my Max oh my gosh
02:56:01
Brian Atlaslist there now that this is out there in the continental United States there's no longer any fem sales I've eradicated them with my what if there's too many of
02:56:12
Brian Atlasthem for you availability I don't think but there's too many of them doing any any self-identified fem cells boom Checkmate [ __ ] lawyered you're no
02:56:21
Brian Atlaslonger fem cell I'm offering myself for you know there it is it's done it's done but look ultimately you mentioned that thing in the street if hey a little quiet back guys a little quiet okay um
02:56:34
Brian Atlasyou mentioned that thing in the street where you know they're holding a sign or whatever mhm I'm telling you like if a girl did that man like the a like a
02:56:47
Brian Atlasbelow average girl she can get laid like below you step to the you go to the club like every single girl here and I'm not saying like you guys are attractive girls whatever every single girl here
02:56:58
Brian Atlasyou could [ __ ] three dudes tonight you know you know how much of a how high in the Apex of men you have to be to be able to [ __ ] three [ __ ] women on a
02:57:09
Brian Atlaswhim you got to be Drake you got to be a celebrity you got to be all of us know that right but every even average like we we had a girl this is like from a
02:57:19
Brian Atlasyear ago we had a girl on the show who was on uh below average she was chubby a like below average like I give her three four whatever tough crowd hey it is what it is whatever she was look she was not
02:57:32
Brian AtlasI'm not I'm not saying it to be mean but just for the purposes of the conversation she was an unattractive woman she was able to she had a sex addiction she was able to [ __ ] six dudes
02:57:41
Brian Atlasin a day and she did that for like a month straight I'm sorry there's no guy without like some sort of intervening characteristic like massive amounts of
02:57:52
Brian Atlasstatus I don't even money [ __ ] it he has to have status that's it you got to be Brad Pit you got to be a like top 1% like you can't be some
02:58:05
Brian Atlasaverage musician you have to be like top top top musician athlete actor to have sexual access to six new different women per day every single girl here at this table no offense we got like this is
02:58:20
Brian Atlasthis a bro y'all normal girl y'all are normal girls none of you are [ __ ] rock stars or any of this [ __ ] except this rapper girl who refuses to [ __ ] rap all of you could [ __ ] 10 dudes
02:58:32
Brian Atlastonight if you wanted to it's a [ __ ] Sunday yeah proba it's true but none of us are fem cells none of us are I get that but like your all of y'all males
02:58:43
Brian Atlasequivalents like whatever your male equivalent is who would he wouldn't be a in either he can't [ __ ] 10 chicks in a one night he can't do that I don't disagree with that that's a different you disagree wait what do you mean you disagree I said I don't disagree with
02:58:56
Brian Atlasbut that's a different topic that's not a defens topic well it's it's a different topic but it's related because the level of sexual access that women have compared to men is completely
02:59:07
Brian Atlasdisproportionate like an average looking woman has the same sexual optionality as an aess celebrity like in order for me
02:59:17
Brian Atlasto do what every single one of you girls here can do I have to be a 1ent her it's even it's probably more I got to be
02:59:25
Brian Atlas[ __ ] Brad p i yeah Ser okay the average woman you got the same
02:59:33
Brian Atlassort of sexual optionality as rock stars as celebrities professional athletes so of course there's going to be a differential and of course this is going
02:59:43
Brian Atlasto be related to this supposed fake phenomenon of femel because even unattractive women can get laid with such Simplicity I just refuse
02:59:55
Brian Atlasto acknowledge that there could ever conceivably be some woman woman who's so objectionable uh that she could not get a guy to [ __ ] her once well and you could even explain this biologically
03:00:08
Emilybecause men are biologically wired to spread their seed and and their genes and reproduce as much as possible whereas women are are substantially pickier so like even if you I don't know
03:00:19
Brian AtlasI can't get on I can't get on board with the idea that that there is one because he's he's right we had um a long time ago this was over a year ago we had a
03:00:28
Brian Atlaswoman who described herself as a former fem cell and I start I I was asking some inquisitive questions and uh she was
03:00:38
Brian Atlassaying something along the lines of how uh and by all means she was I think an above average looking woman um um she wasn't
03:00:49
Brian Atlasa 10 out of 10 but she was I I above average looking and she was saying ah you know I just I went to college and you know no guys were really interested in me but
03:01:01
Brian Atlasonce you start peeling back the layers you start asking some questions I'm like okay well would you like make an effort to go out no were you on any dating apps no did you ever like go up and talk to
03:01:12
Brian Atlasguys no were there any guys you friend zoned yes were there any guys who showed interest interest in you yes were there any guys like as a woman if you can't
03:01:23
Brian Atlasget a certain tier of Gody and you're turning down men who want relationships with you you got to reconsider like are my standards too high I don't think there's anything wrong with having high
03:01:35
Brian Atlasstandards but if you can't actually get that dude you got to reconsider like what you're actually bringing to the
03:01:43
Elinatable so have I been have I convinced you or are you unconvinced you remain unconvinced I still think that a woman
03:01:53
Elinacan be so objectionable that um she would be a fem cell and I I agree like you said if she took those some Extreme Measures and she was sitting up a bunch of guys and um
03:02:05
ElinaExtreme Measures well it's not that's not an extreme measure um the extreme measure would be going out on the street with the sign right honestly but with dating apps you don't got to do that in fact I think it would be easier on the dating app than just going out on the
03:02:18
Brian Atlasstreet with the signs like who wants the [ __ ] mhm if as a woman you go on a dating app who here's been on show of hands who's been on a dating app who's been on the dating app Tinder whatever
03:02:29
Brian Atlasno have you guys gotten sexually propositioned on dating apps by men you might find that like T super tacky and gross and icky whatever but you've all
03:02:39
Arielbeen like had guys say I want want to [ __ ] basically dude my friend he just like swipes like he doesn't even look he just swipes like as much as he can I've SE I'm like you're not going to even like look he's like let let me ask you a
03:02:52
Elinaclarifying question do you think that there are more in cells than there are fem cells of course why because women have much higher standards and men are more focused on physical appearance
03:03:04
Brian Atlasrather than other things that are much more difficult to obtain okay so you think fem cells can only exist if they're like super like really badl looking yes like they have to be really
03:03:17
Elinareally bad looking and most women who say who claim they are incels they're not incels or I mean fem cells do you think any girl here based on how they look could be a fem cell no no no no girl here could be as no no no okay not
03:03:30
Brian Atlaseven close okay cuz there are women who claim fem cell and they're like average looking girls they're not F cells okay so you're saying it's only like really really like the most atrocious thing
03:03:41
Emilythat you can ever imagine can I argue you sorry go ahead I was just going to ask if you could describe what the most OB cable woman that would meet the
03:03:49
Mason Gregoirecriteria to be a fem cell and in your hypothetical would be okay she's 800 lb there's chubby chasers there's men there's men who have fat Fe there is I
03:04:01
Mason Gregoirewas on the LA one of the last times I was on this podcast we had a lady who literally took up two seats and I mean gorlock the Destroyer no no not
03:04:09
Mason Gregoiredifferent lady um but I mean she she was she definitely got around she's 800 lb she has like any lumps moles big on her
03:04:20
Elinaface hairy moles big lumps like fix um her eyes are like yellow poking out of her school noty Stars I'm telling you she can still get
03:04:32
Brian Atlassome dick they probably make like bri they probably make corn for I already eliminated I already said def I already said I've eliminated all the fem cells in the continental United States with my
03:04:43
Alexaoffer I was going to say I would think someone who actually would maybe be a fem cell is not necessarily based off of the looks but if they had like an STD of some sort I think that would be the thing that would if it's just for
03:04:55
Alexasleeping with someone but how did they get the St no but no no saying they have say they have like a life altering one I'm not going to go into details of one but just say that is the thing afterwards that people are like oo I would have a one night stand with you
03:05:07
Brian Atlasbut now they're like oh no I can't do that but so I feel like that would be more realistic than someone being unattractive I'm just saying I think that person would actually have more hard time I have a couple to that so I think the first would be that people
03:05:20
Brian Atlaslike for example like people who have herpes will seek out other people with herpes and like date each other so I don't think just because you have an STD that that precludes you from like dating somebody who also has that same STD there's like certain uh you could even
03:05:33
Brian Atlasdisclose to a partner and they might accept it I think most people are like not okay with it but there's actually people who are like um you know what I'm willing to take the risk if you're like if it's with herpes if you're taking that uh I forgot what it's called like
03:05:46
Brian Atlasthere's a drug that can reduce the outbreaks or whatever um some people might be willing to take that risk and like avoid having sex like during outbreaks or whatever I've heard of this as a thing but I don't think that would
03:05:56
Brian Atlasnecessarily preclude you from from getting sex and then also I I think the the measurement here would be more so like I feel like it's a perhaps a bit unfair to bring in like STDs into this
03:06:08
Brian Atlasbecause I think it's like totally valid to not want to sleep with somebody if they have an STD but like absent the STD would this person still be able to sleep with people oh yeah I think it's more
03:06:20
Elinathat's kind of more so where I'm but you can't say absent STD CU cuz she has the STD and she cannot get laid so she's a fem cell I just don't think that that actually exist there's going to always
03:06:32
Bailey Janebe some fem cells and inels there're always going to be both because some people don't have access to the internet and also the money to get out there's always going to be some normal like there's normal dudes there's normal
03:06:44
Brian Atlasdudes who are like average or maybe below average looking who don't have STDs who live in the United States who got the internet who have who live in
03:06:53
Brian Atlasmajor cities y'all are trying to like okay she's got super HIV super herpes she's got every [ __ ] STD there is she's 800 lb she's severely deformed and
03:07:05
Brian Atlasshe lives 100 she lives on the [ __ ] abandoned Island 100 kilometers from anybody else you guys are you like using the most extreme examples whereas like
03:07:16
Elinayou can go to any City and find men who are in cells it's totally different true I I agree with that but that woman that lives on an island she's 800 lb and everything's wrong with her that's a
03:07:28
Brian Atlasfemale she cannot get late so she inter yeah you know what if you're a woman no internet how is she going to get flown out or like how's anybody going to know she is that's why there's always going to be I'm actually willing to grant for like these
03:07:40
Brian Atlasextreme super extreme examples that there are women who can't get sex but like male incels you don't have to like look at like super extreme outlier cases
03:07:51
Brian Atlasso like yeah I think but like you can find people who are like really really in like the top or bottom percentiles of all sorts of different like really uh I
03:08:02
Brian Atlasthink I don't know if the term sparse just really uh like small minute groups of people like there there's some women
03:08:11
Brian Atlaswith double vaginas okay cool true but it's like I'm interested in like discussing like phenomena that is like
03:08:21
Brian Atlaskind of common I guess and like the the incidence rate of male involuntary celibacy is like far higher than female involuntary invol in what the [ __ ] so so
03:08:34
Brian Atlasyou're willing to concede that it might not be zero yes of course there's like crazy insane yeah there's crazy insane outliers but I'm more interested in like
03:08:44
Brian Atlasarguing the like conceptually this idea that there's like average to below average women who would be happy like
03:08:54
Brian Atlasdating a guy who's pretty much on her level and like having sex with him like the there okay there's male incels for example who would be willing to actually
03:09:06
Brian Atlaslike date a girl who's maybe one or two points below him just to get sex this idea and that's super common and maybe their standard let's just say the male self standard is they want to
03:09:18
Brian Atlashave sex with a girl who's like at least as attractive as him whe and so if he's like below average in looks he'll have sex with a woman who's below average in
03:09:27
Brian Atlaslooks he can't even get that right I think that specific phenomenon where there's women who like who can't get sex
03:09:38
Brian Atlasfrom Men on their level or maybe one point below I don't think that exists so you don't think that if a woman is extremely ugly you think that
03:09:49
Brian Atlasshe can get sex from a guy who is also extremely ugly sure yes yes I I think so I think it happens all the time but is I mean look is there some she's so fat you
03:10:00
Brian Atlascan't even reach her vagina okay fine she's a [ __ ] even though she's no no no hold on I don't I don't even want to concede to that
03:10:09
Brian Atlasposition because of some like literal like if there's a what if the flesh is willing if the man is willing to [ __ ]
03:10:19
Brian Atlasher she's not but she's her it you would need a [ __ ] twot dick to reach her vagina because of how fat she is she's
03:10:29
Emilynot a fem cell she's just fat I mean you even see on like the shows like my my 600 lb life or whatever it'll be a you know a woman who's incredibly morly
03:10:41
Emilyobese and then her like you know maybe a little bit overweight partner who like helps her sh and helps her go to the bathroom and buckets and it's like I mean there's evidence everywhere that I
03:10:53
ElinaI think is very strongly in support of Brian in this case thank you and I'm not arguing that it's common my point is if you're a woman and you're trying to get laid even if it's for one week and you
03:11:04
Brian Atlascannot get laid and you're failing for one week you're a fem sell I think I don't think that's fair I think there needs to be a more technically than Alexa has been a fem cell for the whole
03:11:15
Brian Atlastime we've been dating I I talking about that I I think there needs to be I I so I don't think one week is a fair enough timeline because I honestly
03:11:27
Brian Atlaseven for like an average dude who can get laid like I think bro it you can't you can't always get laid within a week like y'all girls okay you meet on a dating app you got to talk to her for a
03:11:40
Brian Atlas[ __ ] couple days boom get the number okay plan a date for Friday oh she Flakes two hours before Oh okay boom my can't get a replacement date boom It Takes a Minute like for most
03:11:52
Brian Atlasaverage guys we can't just go get some replacement [ __ ] like average dude it could take you a couple weeks it could take you a couple months even for like an average dude I agree with that that's
03:12:04
Brian Atlashow pram but I don't think it's fair to oh a woman can't get late no she's got to put in she's got to put in three months she got to be on all the dating apps I don't care if she's not Asian she's got to be on the Asian dating apps
03:12:16
Brian Atlastoo she got to be on every dating app she's got to be hitting people up she's got to be going out to bars and clubs trying to get some dick excuse me sir can I have some dick excuse me sir may I have some penis please that's what she
03:12:29
Brian Atlasgot to be doing if she ain't going out to the club being like excuse me I want to put your penis in and around my vagina if she's not [ __ ] doing that
03:12:38
Elina[ __ ] that [ __ ] she and a femel if like I'm sorry if a little bit chopped girl um was going around to clubs and she was like not very is that like ugly is that
03:12:49
Emilylike zomer for ugly chopped okay she's coming up to guys like this most guys are going to get scared Away by that they're not going to work have you ever talked to men like genuinely how like do
03:13:00
Elinayou have many interactions with men 800 lb lumpy like Harry mol's black teeth she's going to clubs and she's coming she's got large labia I'll I'll hit but uman I'm going to find you a fem cell I
03:13:11
Brian Atlaswant to see proof of you making her not you want to be in the room you want to be in the room I want a camera in the room you want no you have you have to be in the room I'll be in and you have to have [ __ ] bom poms and cheerleading
03:13:23
Brian Atlasand [ __ ] in the corner you got to for my flight here cuz it's a lot you got to pay for my flight to get here n bro get out of here that not doing it oh Ogle I
03:13:32
Brian Atlasdo need to apologize this came in Ogle we were I I got really heated about the so heated I was so upset the Feb sales
03:13:42
TTS/Donationsum this I apologize I missed this one ELO I the TTS came in the donated $200 Mason it's just these work American and Western European women who look at
03:13:54
TTS/Donationsthe world like that go to Asia or Eastern Europe and they have much more traditional values that are at least sensical this came in like 20 minutes ago Ogle I apologize for that man my bad do you want to respond really quick to
03:14:06
Mason Gregoirethat or no uh I mean yeah I don't disagree with that yeah you're going to run across more traditional women when you go to East oh yeah sorry got to speak into the microphone yeah you're going to yeah definitely when you go
03:14:17
Mason Gregoirearound um Asia um you're going to find women who are more traditional I don't disagree with that Latin America I agree same thing yeah yeah but um wait [ __ ]
03:14:27
Elinawhat were we what was it fem cells fem cells proof of you making a fem cell no longer a fem Cel yeah I don't know look I just feel like gu doesn't that mean that she was never a fem Cel to begin
03:14:39
Elinawith which is kind of the point it would make her no longer a f cell if Brian went through with his promise but if he doesn't for the for the podast oh my God still
03:14:48
Brian AtlasI'm look I find it so hard to believe that I could see how could be intimidate she doesn't even have to go the club she could I mean [ __ ] that's how people get
03:14:59
Brian Atlaslaid but whatever just get on the dating app it's so easy on the dating app she has to message every single dude and she doesn't have to be super crass with it like I mean I was kind of joking around like she doesn't have to be like want
03:15:12
Brian Atlassome [ __ ] no but she can be like message guys be like oh hey like I think you're really attractive do you want to like um I don't know if this is two for like Netflix and chill tonight she could
03:15:24
Brian Atlaseven be more reserved with it she could be like hey I just think you're really cute do you want to um get dinner tonight I definitely think like she's
03:15:33
Mason Gregoiregetting more of the argument is there are guys who say are a five from 1 to 10 they are five there is no there are there are guys who no matter what if
03:15:44
Mason Gregoirethey try to approach a woman who's a five or even a four they will never get one of those that's an incel so but there if you're a woman who's say a two there are plenty of twos out there who
03:15:55
Mason Gregoireare men like who are going to put out for them like that does it doesn't exist for a woman who's a two would not be able to get a man who's a two because a man's a man's desire is not so much like
03:16:08
Mason Gregoireare they successful do they go to the gym all of these things it's I mean I hate hate to say this man I'm sorry but is very physically driven like very
03:16:20
Mason Gregoiresexually physically driven and it's very it's not nearly um I mean women very much look at the UN nonsexual things when it comes to a relationship and Men that's just not their natural
03:16:31
Arielproductivity sinfully they that's what they they air Ariel you got something you got something what you got I remember my mom telling me when I was like growing up my mom would be like a
03:16:41
Arielhole is a hole like I'm sorry I'm sorry but like not all men are like that but I genuinely feel like yes majority of men will
03:16:52
Brian Atlasyeah they'll do anything like not saying for all men but yeah not all men no AB as a woman if a woman is or makes herself sexually available even if that guy otherwise wouldn't have a
03:17:05
Brian Atlasrelationship with her he will smash He he'll take that opportunity you could tell like let me ask you you girls a question uh you get spawned into a bedroom and like a
03:17:17
Brian Atlasguy who's two or three points below you in terms of appearance maybe he's like a little bit chubby not exactly your type but he's like seems really really
03:17:27
Brian AtlasPleasant and like enthusiastically wants to have sex with you would you would you smash and nobody can ever nobody can ever find out do you smash no anybody do
03:17:41
Brian Atlasyou smash oh I was gonna say you got that come on no I was gonna say how long have you no just random totally random dude smash once nobody ever finds out it's
03:17:52
Brian Atlaslike totally private no no no no no nobody I think not all guys are going to take that but like a lot and no STD no pregnancy none of that risk I think
03:18:03
Brian Atlasthere's a good amount of men who are be going to be like sure I'll hit I agree I'll hit why not I'll bust a n so so it's it's different it's different um
03:18:15
Brian Atlastwo two final things on this and then we're going to move it on um I almost want to test this out also I mean this kind of delved into something else but like when it came to the ease with which
03:18:26
Brian Atlaswomen can get laid versus men I want to do another test check it although some of y'all in relationship so I can't really [ __ ] it whatever I'll just you know what I'm
03:18:36
Brian Atlasjust ask the single girls single single single single uh after the show tonight would you like to have uh carnal knowledge with me what
03:18:47
Bailey Janecarnal knowledge sexual p and the V maybe some sing the D I'll accept that I'll accept it I don't think you can handle my energy so
03:18:58
Bailey Janeno and not like right away without getting to know me and then no so no she's going to Peg you she's going to eat your ass that's crazy no no not physically I'm not toing
03:19:10
Emilygo physically anything physical I'm talking about like yeah is is it this gray magic you speak of it spells and such no no no all right vood nothing vood sure that's fine I can't handle the [ __ ] my energy is very crazy can't
03:19:23
Brian Atlashandle the [ __ ] the [ __ ] is whatever too magical uh okay Bailey Bailey probably hates me but would you would you smash after still know okay still know and then the only Ashley would you
03:19:34
Brian Atlashit no see look at that brutal brutal damn even single women It's Hard Out It's Hard Out Here go on your dating app it's hard I don't I don't do the uh that was
03:19:47
Brian Atlasjust an experiment just an experiment just to kind of just Kidd to uh paint a picture when it comes to the differentials between men women so um oh final thing here somebody sent sent this
03:19:59
Brian Atlasinto me when it came to definitions of average male inel versus average female they refuse to use the term female incel so they call it female V cell average male incel
03:20:11
Brian Atlasis just an average looking guy that might be a little bit shy that is deemed unattractive for factors entirely outside of his control or that despite his best efforts doesn't feel right
03:20:23
Brian Atlasabout gaming pursuing women in the culture oh I don't know that well whatever I'll finish it that is inherently hostile towards towards them ah that last part I mean it's valid but also like you got to you got to make an
03:20:36
Brian Atlasattempt before you consider yourself in so but um average female Vell an average to obese looking woman that puts little to no effort into to finding men while
03:20:48
Brian Atlasalso actively dismissing the men who are interested in them and maintaining maintaining this entitlement that they should be able to treat men like garbage okay I don't know a little biased there
03:21:00
Brian Atlasbut uh okay whatever where did they get that definition from I don't know somebody sent that in it was in my notes um question have you been convinced or
03:21:11
Elinano are you I think you're trying to say that it's not a common phenomenon which I agree with I'm saying they exist they can they have the potential to exist and I think they do exist in this world as
03:21:23
Brian Atlaswe speak yo chat what's the defeater here what's the defeater to well you know there's one incel out there in the world or one female incel like what what
03:21:34
Brian Atlasis uh I don't know if this is a fallacy can somebody in the chat help me out with this you know what I mean chat what what would it h we're on normal latency so this is going to take forever oh my
03:21:48
Brian Atlasgoodness yeah it's going to take like probably 30 seconds before they see it yo I'm just going to test this out one's in the chat one's in the chat I'm going to see the the latency on this
03:21:58
Brian Atlasokay uh let's see here I don't know whatever uh we need to
03:22:05
Brian Atlasread a couple chats couple chats okay uh is it is it oh man there's a CRA it's like
03:22:14
Brian Atlasa 30 to see it's a 30 second delay 20 203 30 second delay all right dink thank you for the prime we have another chat
03:22:26
Brian Atlashere oh boy Lulu can we go back to challenging that oh boy manipulative Asian chick with the crazy eyes do you have crazy eyes here look you see this camera forget forget that other [ __ ] do you have crazy look into this camera
03:22:37
Brian Atlasright here open your eyes wide really wide really is that is it is that racist I like your eyes thank you I love
03:22:47
Brian Atlasyour eyes you big oh no um wait do it again look into the look look look into this camera look deep wait no no right here look right here right here look deep into this camera deep really wide
03:22:59
Brian Atlaseyes and say wait what should we have her say she should say some crazy [ __ ] like goodness don't get me canceled I no no not canceled
03:23:07
Brian Atlassay I want to Peg you say it oh my God big guys big guys I think I'm good say it say that [ __ ] have you you pegged a guy
03:23:18
Brian AtlasNo Good Times okay good talk uh let's see here what what do we have what do we have guys reminder Reed is 100 TTS is two you know
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03:23:47
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Brian Atlas$10 on that is venmo thank you so much Angelina guys W's in the chat for Angelina Jolie Anna says uh giving some love to Alexa and
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Brian AtlasMason yo Anna thank you so much for the uh $25 on venmo thank you so much man man sorry woman Anna Anna I apologize I Mis pronouned you whatever um all right
03:25:12
Brian Atlaswe have you know what here's what we going to do wait what David Brian but Brian I can pull three in 24 hours if I want women can pull 100 but they don't oh that's fair that's fair good
03:25:24
Brian Atlasgood for you man this what a what a giga Chad okay uh Stiffler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 you can't pick seven starting with
03:25:35
Bailey Janeyou go ahead um what most people probably say then if I can't pick seven eight but I personally think a 10 for myself because I look exactly how I want
03:25:45
Brian Atlasit to look period all right 10 sweet what about you Felicity like a five I don't know five okay sure uh like that's how you rate
03:25:57
Brian Atlasyourself in terms of your looks what if we throw just I never ask this if we throw in personality what what you what you cranking out I don't know um like is it
03:26:08
Brian Atlashigher or lower maybe a six a six okay all right what about you Bailey uh six six okay
03:26:18
Brian AtlasI'm gonna say 8.5 but I've worked really hard 8.5 you know what though what what were you when you were a background character last show cuz I have some things I would feel like saying wait
03:26:30
Brian Atlaswhat do you mean what do you mean what what was I I was like where I feel like you kind of your hair was on point I know I did my makeup for that show oh you didn't do your makeup no I didn't
03:26:41
Arielhave time today send this girl to bathroom bro I'm kidding we made's in the ER so I was like oh yeah sorry that
03:26:50
Ariellike Turned did you uh like attack them um yeah actually no I'm just kidding um his his parents flew out so I took them to the AR so I didn't really have time to get that's fine no your hair was all
03:27:02
ArielI crimped it it's good and I like put foundation on and stuff right now this is like Pretty Natural this is okay but so 8.5 Alina what about you
03:27:14
Brian Atlas6.9 6.9 nice freaking Alina probably like a five a five Ash Ash six and a half a six and a half okay
03:27:25
Mason GregoireAlexa going go with personality and eight no personal you can't factor in personality just looks 6.9 then 6.9 all right uh Mason what about you uh I
03:27:36
Mason Gregoireprobably think I'm gosh I'm not allowed to say seven uh I guess I have to go up to 6.9 then okay I think I mean I I lost like I mean I guess I'm I'm doing a lot
03:27:46
Brian Atlasbetter but I lost like 50 lb I'm slowly getting back up there show us the biceps again bro come on CH do do a comp somebody do find his old b double bicep
03:27:58
Mason Gregoiredo a comparison it's not that bad yeah well I have gained a lot of weight back I'm probably I'm in the 190s right now so technically speaking I'm still a victim in my weight class once I get above 200 M we can we can we can talk
03:28:10
Brian Atlasabout a I get I give myself a five a five um wait I know oh yeah this is pretty reasonable
03:28:21
Brian Atlasso we got the only 10 here at the table uh we've been she's gracing us with her Superior Beauty no no no I just said I think I look exactly how I wanted to
03:28:32
Bailey Janelook my avatar your avatar okay that's cool even though I don't look yeah what people anybody else would consider you are a legend and a scholar so you don't
03:28:43
Bailey Janehave any like anything about yourself and particular you're self-conscious about um of course like physically um yeah actually at first I have but then I got to like really love like every part
03:28:54
Bailey JaneI'm like yeah but at first definitely like nose job or this that like yeah but now I'm not anymore cuz I see why I
03:29:03
Brian Atlaschose what I chose to look like um I have a follow-up question on this um
03:29:13
Brian Atlasso oh I'll just okay I'll just do the uh do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time so you're 25 will you be better looking 10 years time 35 yes
03:29:22
Brian Atlascuz I'll have more money but yeah physically yeah um better
03:29:29
Brian Atlaslooking 20 years time 45 yeah probably and yeah okay uh 30 years time
03:29:40
Brian Atlas55 no we we have audio only listeners so if you shake your head yeah
03:29:48
Bailey Janeno okay you said 40 to 50 years from now so 30 so 55 55 no okay what about you so you're 18 better
03:29:59
Brian Atlaslooking in 10 years time at 28 I hope so yeah probably what about uh 20 years time 38 no no okay you're 23 better looking
03:30:09
Brian Atlasin 10 years time at 33 yeah yes but looking in 20 years time at 43 no okay so 33 Peak yes 33 Peak okay
03:30:21
Brian Atlasum same here same here I think while you're 24 better looking in 10 years time at 34 yes 20 years time at 44 no okay Alina you're 20 better looking in
03:30:31
Brian Atlas10 years time at 30 better most likely not most likely not okay uh 24 better looking in 10 years time at 34 highly unlikely highly unlikely uh Ash 25
03:30:41
Alexabetter looking in 10 your time 35 no okay Alexa 29 better looking in 10 years time 39 sadly no but I'm working on anti-aging working and then going 10
03:30:53
Brian Atlasyears back were you better looking at 19 versus now at 29 I look better now better now okay uh okay I think those were all pretty pretty reasonable pretty reasonable nothing too
03:31:06
Brian Atlascrazy do we have the age advancement though Ina and we always do this in case I mean you said 20 better at wait I'm 30 and no wait did I actually say 45 I said
03:31:17
Bailey JaneI meant not to 45 oh well now you're Chang years changing no I I misunderstood you at first I'm not going to lie but like 40 maybe but then no past 40 where's your cuto off point 40
03:31:28
Mason Gregoireyeah that's when you think you're going to be most attractive as 40 years old oh from definitely 33 to 40 I don't know what age do you think you're going to be your
03:31:38
Mason Gregoiremost attractive like if you had the same like you're the same life practic same as everybody else yeah okay so what what age do you think
03:31:50
Bailey Janelike 38 39 38 that's going to be your most attractive I mean I feel like that's for a lot of guys that's kind of there and a girls if they have money I
03:32:00
Brian Atlasfeel like yeah wait the guy has money or dude I can lowkey B box huh wait what I I was just like staring at you I was
03:32:12
Bailey Janelike oh you want her to rap oh my God yeah low key I'm scared what I'm going to say to be honest come on bro no cuz like music out there a lot of
03:32:23
Brian Atlaspeople I've heard it you never heard me freestyle what kind of music on your Instagram you post I do a little bit yeah I definitely nothing stuff yeah I
03:32:33
Brian Atlasbought a DJ board here come on right now the audience is going to be like please know I think before I start freestyling like that I'll have to really start to
03:32:45
Bailey Janetrust people more trust people more and I really don't right now so that's like how people judge and how people don't don't worry about the rap [ __ ] um so the one day we'll get there the the peak is
03:32:57
Brian Atlas39 though yeah into the mic into the mic uh Peak is 39 yes wait question but you like you're a stripper right I used to yeah oh used to do you think like if you started stripping again at 39 years old
03:33:09
Brian Atlasdo you think you make more money at 39 versus when you're stripping I don't know at 20 or whatever maybe you mean or about the same you think it'd be the same yeah honest I don't know yeah
03:33:20
Brian Atlaseither the same or actually maybe more cuz I guess maybe you know what you're right you think the same wait but I mean weren't weren there like okay but
03:33:30
Brian Atlasyour own experience in the club like were the younger more trct well you you might not grant that they're more attractive you ever run into some the younger women make more money than the older women oh no it's all over the
03:33:42
Bailey Janeplace it's okay all right all over the place they like those the some of the guys just like there was this one that was like almost she was she was in her 50s and
03:33:54
Bailey Janeshe would get a lot just because of that the fact that she was yeah so old and there some everybody had you know everybody has their Kinks and it's like rare to see a dancer that's that old so
03:34:06
EmilyI feel like that's why they're all like dope I mean yeah but is that the rule like do you think it's more I think I'm sure there's more guys that would like the younger looking women no matter if
03:34:17
Brian Atlasthey are not for sure wait uh getting back into the show notes but I'm a little bit different so you are I didn't know this um Alina you why do you call
03:34:28
Brian Atlasme brain bro that's kind of rude calling you out here that's just your nickname Big Brain big big she in the DM she's like calls me brain so I was like is
03:34:39
Brian Atlasthis [ __ ] chick trolling like what the [ __ ] um that's cool what guys chat since she gave me a nickname what do we nickname
03:34:49
Brian Atlasher her name is Alina the Russian Soviet spy what do we call her daddy I don't know if there's any
03:35:00
Brian Atlaslike how do you clown on Alena you can't you can't it's [ __ ] uh somebody in the chat does they're going to figure it out watch out okay uh let's see here
03:35:11
Brian Atlasyou also wrote in your notes Alina that uh women wear makeup for themselves because even if she attracts a man with with it she's attracting him for
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Elinaherself right so there's a common opinion that women wear makeup for men um and I used to agree with that but then I thought about it and I'm like okay if she wears the makeup she looks
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Elinagood she goes out and she attracts the man of her dreams because she looks good she's still doing that for herself that's a benefit that's benefiting her you know what I mean in the end that's
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Brian Atlasstill benefiting her so it's like was she wearing it for herself in the end I feel like this is going to be like the fun cell argument where it's just like
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Brian Atlasyou're just arguing this kind of like Niche chicken position um so basically like women wear wear makeup for men but
03:36:06
Brian Atlasthey're doing that to get the men so they're doing it for themselves because they're getting the man for themselves yes is that the logic yes okay so it's
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Mason Gregoirelike okay I'm not going to that's giving feminist for sure but still regardless they're they're putting the makeup in that even in that logic they're still putting the makeup on to get the men even if it's for themselves they're
03:36:29
Emilystill putting it on to get the man it's this roundabout yeah sort of I don't yeah well I mean that's the whole point of the argument anyways it's like are they doing it because they're trying to attract men or they oh are they just doing it cuz I want to look pretty which
03:36:42
Elinais a total load of crap I think the feminist argument for this would be women wear makeup for themselves just because they like it just because you know they they just like it that's what I like putting on makeup for myself
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Elinaright and that can be true it can like it can be fun that can be the case for a lot of people but in general the point of makeup is to make you look more attractive I mean but but when you say
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Elinaattractive to who to the gender that you're attractive too and so if most women are heterosexual they're trying to make themselves more attractive to men
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Brian Atlasyes yeah and I look I don't think there's only one answer to something so like I think two both things can exist I think women are in competition with
03:37:27
Brian Atlasother women and you want to look presentable to other women but you also want to look presentable to men so I don't think it's like you're just doing it for men you are also wanting to look
03:37:40
Brian Atlaspresentable to your female friends or your female competition whatever it is but you're also doing for men if you're straight or by or mostly a lesbian but sometimes you [ __ ] men I
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Arielfeel like there's multiple answers to this question you could do it for men you could do it for yourself you can do it for both I don't really feel I feel like every person is different the benefit of the man the what is the benefit that the man is getting from the
03:38:04
Elinawoman wearing the makeup he just gets to look at her and she looks good okay I mean yeah men are but the benefit that the woman is getting is that she can attract a man for herself it's attention
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Elinauh ATT you said attention or intention attention fundamentally at the end of the day that's like the currency for for women okay yeah anyways uh you said that women shouldn't be
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Elinadrafted why is that it would make a weak Army and the other um side could essay the women on the woman's side and
03:38:38
Brian Atlasimpregnate them it would demoralize the Army and it would weaken it so women shouldn't be drafted no well how about this though women should be drafted but
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Elinathey can't have access to Frontline combat positions are you in favor then is there a limit on how many women are getting drafted because someone has to stay home and make babies you know what
03:39:01
Brian Atlasdo you mean if more women are getting killed then that's it's harder for you're talking in some like Total War [ __ ] like World War II or these
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Elinasituations um like World War II a big war yeah yeah that would kill Millions people um no they should still be drafted just
03:39:23
Brian Atlasfor non-combat roles that's your argument for equality so no combat for women no combat for women okay I mean I'm fine with that look here's the thing
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Brian Atlasand um I'm trying to remember the exact number but in order to field one combat Soldier so one person in the field in
03:39:41
Brian Atlascombat it takes 10 other people uh in the milit like sold soldiers but their Administration their Cooks their mechanical repair uh it takes 10 people
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Brian Atlasto field one soldier so women can occupy positions of support in the military um I don't see a problem with that how should that be regulated though
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Brian Atlasshould the men be drafted first and then once there's no uh men who qualify the women get the same I'll answer that question immediately but I have one question for you so you're saying in war
03:40:16
Brian Atlasthat a man's Duty like when it comes to forced military conscription in the draft is to fight in the actual War right right and women should be exempt
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Brian Atlasfrom military draft yes and their Duty their Duty so a man's duty is what in the war yeah to fight to fight and potentially die right
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Brian Atlasthat could happen that's their Duty that's their responsibility that's their burden right I'm going to go ahead and say women shouldn't be drafted for the military but what about this actually before I
03:40:51
Brian Atlasask the question you said women's expectation is what their expectation in where well you said well the reason we
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Brian Atlasdon't draft women in the military is so that they can repopulate the country they can give birth right that's the women's Duty that's the women's Duty so
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Brian Atlaswould you be in favor then of a draft for women where they're forced to get pregnant are they getting ID no they can do it consensually but they are
03:41:24
Brian Atlascompelled like you have to do this well a lot of people can have health complications with that so oh you know what's a really bad Health complication is getting killed on the
03:41:35
Brian Atlas[ __ ] Battlefield okay it's fine we can do that okay so you're fine with a a draft they they can pick a partner maybe they're already with a partner they need to get pregnant
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Brian Atlasand if they if they don't I look in I'll even say in this situation they can't be uh they wouldn't be like forced by the government to have like actually you have to [ __ ] but there would be penalties if they didn't have children