HEATED Debate With Harvard Grad! HER League = Henry Cavill?! Chloe Roma Army! | Dating Talk #261

Date: 2025-09-22

Duration: 8h 09m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAlyssa (Harvard)>

MMadam Houston >

SSarah (Baptist)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Chloe Roma(guest)

SPEAKER_04Jenny (UK)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Summer(guest)

SPEAKER_07Alyssa (Harvard)(guest)

SPEAKER_08Britney(guest)

SPEAKER_09Violet(guest)

SPEAKER_10Madam Houston(guest)

SPEAKER_13Felicity(guest)

SPEAKER_14Sarah (Baptist)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduce themselves including Alyssa playing piano

ControversyBrian challenges Summer: Christian + OnlyFans = vegetarian eating hamburger

Key MomentHarvard verification quiz: Alyssa identifies Annenberg dining hall, Drew Faust as president

QuoteMadam Houston: Kirk died 'doing what he loved, badass way to go out'

ControversyHeated clash between Chloe Roma and Madam Houston

Key MomentBrian negotiates Britney from $500K to $90K in Idaho

QuoteSummer's KFC date: man defecated, took vegan to KFC, ate her ass, stole her panties

ControversySarah vs Brian: Ephesians 5:22 submission debate. Sarah accuses Brian of twisting scripture like Satan.

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

All guests including Harvard grad Alyssa who played piano live.

Christianity vs OnlyFans

Summer claims God is happy she makes men happy. Sarah dying inside.

Charlie Kirk Memorial

Panel discusses assassination and public response.

Relationship Status Round

Summer single 2 years. Violet never had boyfriend. Britney single 1 month.

Feminism Debate

Brian: feminism is women's advocacy not equality. Jenny: all women are 10s.

Body Count Round

Summer 8. Britney personal <10/work 100+. Jenny ~30s. Chloe 11.

Bow/Submission Segment

Brian shows ex bowing video. Sarah vs Brian on Ephesians 5:22.

Transcript

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Brian Atlasvegetarian and you're eating a hamburger?" In your case, you're a Christian. >> The Bible call Hold on. The Bible calls on wives to be submissive to their

Brian Atlashusbands as you would unto the Lord. How you're just It doesn't make any sense to me. Ephesians 5:22.

Sarah (Baptist)This is mainstream Christian doctrine. Okay. What was your question? Go ahead. >> In your perspective, what does it look like for a woman to

Brian Atlassubmit to her husband? Please give me a lesson. >> What does it look like? He would be I mean, it depends. If you're asking from a bib biblical perspective, I would say typically

Brian Atlas>> typically she defers to his leadership. She defers to his decision making. >> Amen. >> Okay. So, in if So, if you're dating a guy and he's like, "Hey babe, when I get home from

Brian Atlaswork, because you know, by the way, I'm providing for everything here. You're a stay-at-home mom. You're a stay-at-home wife. Whatever. Whatever. Uh, I would like you when you greet me at the door to give me about

Brian Atlas>> um I'll have to ask my Christian guy friends that and then get back to you." >> Hold on. Why do you need to ask your Christian guy friendss when it's literally a Bible verse that I've Are you

Brian Atlas>> You're twisting scripture just like Satan does. >> Wow. That's actually cooked. I'm not twisting scripture at all. >> Yes, you are. >> Okay. What did I say that? Do you disagree that it's wives be submissive

Sarah (Baptist)to your to your husbands as you would? >> I look forward to that. I look forward to submitting to my husband in all these ways that you're saying. But you're not being submissive if your husband is saying, "Hold on. >> Where does it say bow to him in that

Brian Atlasway?" >> Where does it say, Hold on. Where in the Bible does it say anything about like these? My god. Is it plausible that

Brian Atlasthere could be a modern component to dating that isn't referenced in the Bible? Where does it I don't know. Again, I'm maybe I could be wrong on this. Does it

Alyssa (Harvard)say in the Bible that men need to get down on one knee to propose? Maybe you'd prefer that though when a man proposes to you for marriage. >> I I also think and I I heard Erica Kirk

Alyssa (Harvard)give a really great speech on this. Submission is something though that is optional and gave involuntary. It's not demanded from the woman. It's something when you are

Alyssa (Harvard)married that you voluntarily you want to serve and you want to give up certain parts of your previous life to serve your husband. It's not something that

Brian Atlascan be >> demanded of hold on can so as it relates to men's duties to women >> that's completely voluntary also. So men

Alyssa (Harvard)don't have a duty to protect their wives under a biblical interpretation. Well, if they're being forced to, then they're not doing it with all their heart, all their soul, all their mind. If like you're just going through the

Alyssa (Harvard)motions because you're like, "Well, this is what it says I have to do." Then that's not truly living a biblical godly life. >> Do Christian men have a duty to protect their wives?

Brian Atlas>> Yes. But >> now we found >> according according to the scripture. However, >> and according to the scripture, wives, be submissive to your husbands as you would unto the Lord.

Alyssa (Harvard)>> Absolutely. I completely agree. But you should not get married to somebody. I'm not saying you in particular, one should not get married to somebody if they do not want to protect them. If they're just like, "Oh man, I have this

Alyssa (Harvard)obligation now. I have to provide for this [ __ ] I really don't want to do it. I just now I'm stuck having to do that. It's an obligation. Then you shouldn't marry that person. If a wife is saying, "Oh man, now I got to submit to this guy. You know, I had all my

Alyssa (Harvard)freedom before and now I got to do this [ __ ] where I never want to do it." Then that's not true submission. Just like truly protecting somebody. It's not true protection if you're just doing it because

Brian Atlas>> submissive submission is will is submission is given. It is not taken, of course. But it's interesting that men have duties and women don't. Go ahead. >> But it's the same thing with protection.

Alyssa (Harvard)Sure, there's the physical element of protection, but there's also protection. Protecting people's emotions, protecting >> Sorry. Okay. Go ahead with your thing.

Sarah (Baptist)>> So, um Jesus, he used parables and if you understand it, you understand it. And if you don't and you don't, what I am going to say either if you understand

Sarah (Baptist)it, you do. If you don't, then I there's nothing more I can say. But to communicate it in a different way. Um, women were made from the ribs of Eve was made from the ribs of Adam.

Sarah (Baptist)>> Do with anything. >> Can I please finish first, sir, before you judge what I'm going to say? >> Go ahead. >> Um, so God didn't take any bones from a man's head that he should rule over her

Sarah (Baptist)like that. And God did not take Eve from Adam's feet that he should stomp over, but he took her from his side, the place that is closest to his heart. If you understand that, you do. If you don't, you don't. There's nothing else I can

Brian Atlassay that's going to convince you otherwise. >> I don't see how that is at all uh at all material to the actual

Brian Atlasconversation at hand. You're talking about the rib. Uh okay. Um, how does that counter anything about

Brian AtlasOkay, let me ask you this more simply. Should wives be submissive to their husbands under a Christian theological perspective?

Sarah (Baptist)>> Are you just trying to have hold me to >> How about you just what? Answer the question. >> Yes, girl. I ain't trying to be here all night. >> I'm stronger than you, Brian. I don't know how to speak the way that you do. I I respect >> No, I asked you a question. So unless

Sarah (Baptist)you're saying the Bible is incorrect, Ephesians 5:22, >> you know that that's not true. >> What's not true? >> That I I believe scripture as it's on the page, living and act.

Sarah (Baptist)>> Okay. Wives be So do you think then wives should be submissive to their husbands? >> Yes. And that's what I look forward to the most about getting married so I can serve my husband and my children. I want

Sarah (Baptist)to submit to him. >> But it would not be submitt men do have a place where that they can make that submission easier, not lorded over their wives.

Brian Atlas>> Hold on. >> Are we talking about men? The question was, would you bow or not? >> I can't. >> Look, a bow >> is not like I'm not asking you to run. >> No, I'm not going to bow.

Brian Atlas>> Okay, that's fine. But a bow is not asking a woman to run a marathon. >> It takes zero effort. >> Absolutely no effort.

Brian Atlas>> And it would be under the purview of submitting to your husband. In which case, you're refusing to submit to your husband. >> If you can't submit to a man, maybe you're just gay. >> Girl, what?

Brian Atlas>> I mean, >> so that's my confusion. But from just a purely My other confusion here, moving off of religion, moving off of Can you guys not

Alyssa (Harvard)What the [ __ ] are you guys doing? >> I don't know. They They handed me this. I didn't know what I'm supposed to do with it. Am I supposed to >> Can you guys not be [ __ ] But while I'm talking, please. So, the other component here is more from

Brian Atlasthe secular component. I just don't understand. Also, this idea of if you could get the dream person, you won't do this completely benign arbitrary thing. That's my other That's my other thing. I

Brian Atlaswould do benign arbitrary things that okay, whatever. It's like a little weird, strange, whatever. But if that gets me the perfect person, like would you rather

Brian Atlasend up with the imperfect person, but you don't have to be like that to me is hard to compute. >> Like I don't know if you think you guys are just delusional and you're like, you know what, I'm so amazing. I'm

Brian Atlasdefinitely going to get a 10 out of 10 perfect person. All of you, whether you like it or not, are going to [ __ ] settle. You're going to settle. You're not going to get the guy who's a who's

Brian Atlas>> everything you want. I'm saying for the perfect guy. That means along all potential metrics. Looks >> personality settle. >> Yeah, me neither. >> But everybody settles whether this isn't

Madam Houstonfairy land here when it comes to dating. No. Yeah, there is reality. But I also don't think that you shouldn't not get what you don't want. settling. I'm not going to get just like I'm not going to

Brian Atlasget a 20-year-old virgin who's a [ __ ] 10 out of 10 giga model. I'm just giving an example. Just like be I'm being realistic. I know I'm not going to get

Brian Atlasthe [ __ ] giga 10 out of 10 model who's like perfect personality and all the other metrics that I like. I'm not going to get the perfect person. Even if you did, neither are you. She'd have to

Madam Houstonlike you and you'd have to set you have to rise to her standards, too. >> So, Oh, okay. >> Settling isn't necessarily a negative thing. I believe I believe you have your

Britneycore values and then with the other things that follow there's compromise and that's where the quote unquote settling comes in. I don't think settling necessarily has to be negative. Like he said, you're going to settle.

Brian Atlas>> It's just crazy to me y'all won't even do a totally arbitrary benign thing >> for the perfect many women here. I know you guys have said I'm talking to the women who say I won't do this one thing right

Violet>> but I'm not like I've said I'm not a Christian that's not in my >> sure man wouldn't ask me to do that that's what I'm saying >> well he I'm not even >> I'm saying if he did then he's not my dream man

Brian Atlas>> I'm saying I can approach this argument from a secular perspective too my criticism for her was I had another angle of attack because it wasn't just wow you won't do this like really simple

Brian Atlasthing for the perfect guy it's like Okay. Uh, you're 31. The perfect guy hasn't manifested yet, but it could manifest. All you have to do is bow. That seems like a really good trade-off.

Brian AtlasThere's a [ __ ] ton of things I would do for the perfect woman that, trust me, is way crazier than the than just a [ __ ] bow. And the guy, the fact that you guys, I don't know if you believe that you're going to just get the perfect guy

Brian Atlasand just remain comp completely unchanged and just do whatever the [ __ ] you want to do. If that's just like female entitlement or whatever. I just I'm curious. What should women do? Like, do women have to do anything?

Brian Atlas>> Absolutely. >> Okay. What? Like, here's my other confusion with this. Women will literally let a guy blast on their face on the first date, but you won't [ __ ] bow. You'll let a guy come inside you. You'll let a guy do all kinds of crazy

Brian Atlassexual [ __ ] with you. >> Yeah, but would you do a bow? What's that? >> Why are you so mad? Were you so mad at us? >> I'm I'm not mad. I'm just trying to understand. He's not mad. I'm just I'm speaking with with uh I don't know what the right word

Brian Atlasis. >> Conviction ferment like women >> I like when you get mad red like a tomato. >> Thank you. Appreciate it. It's like how about this? Let's move it off from the

Brian Atlasbow. A woman will literally within the same day she meets a guy will suck and [ __ ] and do all this crazy [ __ ] Let him blast in her [ __ ] hair. You get a [ __ ] hair do or something. Little [ __ ] whatever >> skinare

Brian Atlas>> and then uh Hey, get back here. Felacity. >> Weird. Why are you saying it like that? >> Get back here. Um my face in front of that. >> Chill out. Chill out. So >> you chill out. >> Um sorry.

Brian Atlas>> How about this? A woman won't cook. >> I I would never cook for a man, >> but you'll let him [ __ ] come inside you on the first [ __ ] date. >> Can I ask how backwards women are >> but to me it's crazy that that's the

Brian Atlasparadigm. women like that. >> That's crazy that that's the paradigm where it's like, "Oh, yes. Uh, come deep in deep into my tons." >> It's like, "No, it's [ __ ] crazy.

Brian AtlasThese women these women won't clean. They won't cook, but please deposit the [ __ ] cup." But for my body, you're crazy, bro. >> That's a false comparison because sex is supposed to be transactional and something both parties are enjoying. If

Violeta woman's enjoying that, that's different. If a woman doesn't enjoy cooking and cleaning, she That's totally different. You're just making false comparisons right now. >> Well, I do still think it's it's totally fair comparison. Totally fair comparison. >> Well, this idea that oh no, I won't do

Violetthis to like I won't do this but you'll do that. But it's about what it represents. If you don't want to submit like that because whatever you're not a Christian, you don't believe in that, then hypothetical is for the perfect man.

Britney>> No. And if >> but that's like it's it's not about you're not doing anything like you're just making this up. >> No, it's it's a hypothetical question. But if that's how the man is going to feel honored and that's the person that

Britneyyou want for you that meets your needs and that's how he feels honored. >> And I'll say this, who here, just show of hands. Who here wants a guy to pay for the first date? Should a guy pay for the first date? Should do you think a guy should pay for

Brian Atlasthe first date? >> No. >> Oh, okay. Well, >> I don't necessarily think he should. Obviously, I want him to cuz I don't want to pay for it, but >> Oh, well, that's convenient. Um, have you have you been on dates?

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Have has the guy paid for the dates? Did you insist being the feminist that you are that you should uh go 50/50? >> No. >> You didn't insist on going 50/50? That's very feminist of you. This is exactly

Brian Atlaswhat I talk about. Feminism not being about equality. It's about securing privileges for women. >> No, you got to be honest though. Yeah, because you can't say one thing and then say another. It just sound like you all

Brian Atlasover the place. >> Y'all feminist until the check comes. You see, even feminist liberal women like yourself, and I'm not not trying to knock you for that, you still desire. And feminism, you would agree, encompasses more than just like rights

Brian Atlasand laws and stuff. It also relates to like traditional gender roles. And through feminism, women have rejected traditional gender roles with a caveat. But they still want and desire men to

Brian Atlasadhere to their traditional gender roles. So women want you want a guy to pay for first dates. You want chivalry. You want all these things. You want men to take initiative. The these are all masculine traditional gender role

Violetthings. You don't see like feminist women really engaging. >> Is that not normal here for a man to pay for the first date? >> But I also think that often times men want to pay on the first date because they have their own gender roles too.

Brian AtlasLike >> but wouldn't wouldn't it entail >> I agree with that too. If I I've never asked somebody out. If I asked somebody out, I would pay on >> That's exactly it. That's exactly what I'm talking about here. Women say,

Brian Atlas"Well, you know what? My egalitarian position is that whoever asks should pay." Conveniently ignores the fact that de facto men are the ones due to

Brian Atlastraditional gender roles are the ones who are paying for dates and women refuse to do any sort of initiative or do anything to build early on in a relationship. >> That's not true.

Alyssa (Harvard)>> It's absolutely true. >> When I met my partner, we went on hikes. We had multiple encounters that were not sexual, that were purely conversational, that I person [ __ ] you're you're on Pluto right now. That's not what I'm

Brian Atlastalking about at all. Hold on. Who asked for the first date? >> I did. I approached him. >> You approached him. Okay. And then you gave you asked for the number and then you planned the date and you paid for the dates.

Brian Atlas>> Uh we went hiking our first date. >> Okay. Great. Has is has that been uh the norm for you for all the other men you've dated? uh that we'd have some sort of hiking or coffee date or something. That's not >> the venue. Just like who was the

Brian Atlasinitiator? >> Uh mostly me in every relationship I've been in. >> Uh hold on. How uh you're you smuggled in every relationship you've been been in. How about the men who you've asked out who you've been on dates with who

Alyssa (Harvard)you didn't end up in a relationship? >> I don't do that because I won't go on a date with somebody unless I know I'm interested enough about them. I've talked to them enough. >> You do. You're there's this there's this >> because it's awkward. I think it's awkward to have a two three-hour dinner with somebody that you're not vibing

Brian Atlaswith that. >> So, you're saying every single guy you've dated, you always made the you made the move? Yes. >> Or you think you made the move? >> Yes. >> So, none of the men you've dated, they asked you out. >> No. >> You and then you you texted them, you

Brian Atlasset up the date. Really? >> Yes. >> I don't know. This is kind Look, some women moved like this where I call them snipers where women are like they know exactly what they want because [ __ ] snipers. I will admit I'm extremely

Brian Atlasselective. Extremely >> great. You are the outlier. Most women don't move like that. Most women are passive when it comes to dating. They wait for the guy to make the move. >> How many dates have you been on?

Brian Atlas>> I have no idea. >> 10 first dates. Okay. You said you've never asked a guy out, right? Or you've never Excuse me. You've never paid for the date. Is that correct? No. No. You said >> that's not true. No, I have paid for dates. 100% I have.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. No. You said you've never asked a guy out. >> No, you did say that explicitly. No. >> Okay. You look in his direction for half a millisecond. >> No, I mean like I've initiated hangouts

Brian Atlaswith guys, but I've never been like, "Will you go out on a date with me?" >> Well, I get that women who have boyfriends will be like, "Hey babe, you want to hang out?" And you've been together for 3 months. >> Okay.

Brian Atlas>> Asking like making approaching whether that's online, whether it's in person, walking up to the person, whatever. Uh women can do this but overwhelmingly they don't.

Brian Atlas>> Women are not initiators like that. They can >> I am >> okay but you'll be like this one time I asked this guy out. Generally speaking I want to say 97% of the time women don't initiate.

Madam Houston>> I can get it. I'm off. >> Women are afraid of rejection. So yeah, you're definitely not going to see a woman going after somebody she wants more than you see a man. >> Well, and I think that's a mistake though because I think us as women, we

Alyssa (Harvard)are particular, right? If you ask a guy what he wants, he nice girl, she's, you know, pretty, you know, not a freaking psycho. We do. We have a long laundry list of things that we expect from a

Alyssa (Harvard)partner, right? So when you have a conversation with somebody or you you find somebody's attractive and you're selective, why would you not go make the first move? And maybe you have a conversation with them and you're

Brian Atlas>> women don't need to because women have such an abundance of options. We got it easy that will come to you. It's like why like for example for me but it's quantity. It's not quality.

Brian Atlas>> If well sure you obviously women have to do vetting and like most guys who hit on you you're probably not even feeling it. But if you have such an amount so such a

Brian Atlasquantity of men that are approaching you, you you'll never find the need to have to do it. Like for example, famous dudes, women are [ __ ] throwing themselves at these guys. They don't need to like hit

Brian Atlasthe bars and like No, they don't need to do that. Women >> will come to them. >> Bless you. >> But that's >> Yes. Like the average woman

Alyssa (Harvard)>> basically gets the like >> that's the high% the higher quality guys the higher quality guys are they don't approach women because they're so used to women approaching them they don't

Alyssa (Harvard)need to approach women >> that's like 1% of dudes whereas like >> exactly average women I've only dated 1% of dudes because I know what I want I have a vision and I'm gonna say if this is what I want then I have to go for it.

Brian Atlas>> You're a sniper I get that. Most women though don't move that way. Most women the guys come to them. Point blank period. Speaking generally, women aren't asking for first dates. They're not approaching. They're not doing any of

Brian Atlasthis stuff. So again, this idea that well men whoever Ash should pay again conveniently. Look, that would be a fair statement to say if it was about 50/50.

Brian AtlasIf men and women asked each other out at equivalent rates, hey, heck, even if it was 60/40, like men asked women out 60% of the time, women did, I would be like, "All right, whatever. It's pretty much

Alyssa (Harvard)fair, close to fair, whatever." But it's like 97. >> Oh, I completely agree with you. It's it's not proportional, but if you look at the statistics regarding

Alyssa (Harvard)relationships where the women approach the men, those relationships are more likely to end up in a long-term relationship or marriage. >> No dispute there. >> And but I so I'm I'm not disagreeing

Alyssa (Harvard)with you. I'm saying like as a woman to other women, like we have it wrong. Like we have all these we are so picky. We have all these criteria. We should be

Brian Atlasapproaching men because that is how you go get what you want. >> Okay, totally agree. But it's >> true. >> It's a little unrelated to the point at hand here. So you got Show of hands. Who

Brian Atlaswants men to pay for first dates? Show of hands. Raise them high. Raise them high. Men should pay for first. >> You want to or should >> Should should uh >> like as an expectation or you would prefer it? >> You want it or you expect it?

Brian Atlas>> They're kind of intertwined, I would say. How about this? Should men open car doors? >> Oh, for sure. >> For sure. >> Do you not do that here? >> I don't care. >> You don't care. Should men open car doors? >> Yes. >> Open car doors? >> I should never touch a door handle

Alyssa (Harvard)around. >> Never touch. Should a man open the car door? >> I never expected it, but I never had to ask with my brother. >> Do they Does your boyfriend do it? >> Uh, yeah. Every time I open a door over there, >> I don't know. I call shotgun.

Brian Atlas>> Oh my god. Into the mic, please. >> I said I don't know. Shotgun. >> Okay. Should a man open your the car door? So, >> like, should he walk around and open it for you? >> Shotgun. What the [ __ ] >> Is that going to make you sit in the back?

Brian Atlas>> Oh my god. >> Is that a new version? >> Okay. You call shotgun in a super masculine way, which men will definitely love. Uh, should he open the car door for you? >> He wants to Should >> Should he?

Brian Atlas>> No. >> So, you you're fine if he just he doesn't? >> Yeah, >> bro. Talk into the [ __ ] mic. I just said it. >> Pardon me. No, I would not mind. God. >> Okay. Is there anything men should do?

Brian AtlasLike what about observing the sidewalk rule so they walk closer to the the street or where the cars are coming? >> Yeah, for sure they should >> when walking along the street. Do you Is there anything men should do that you can say?

Sarah (Baptist)>> Should men open doors? Is there anything men should do? >> I don't I need a more thorough uh explanation for that.

Brian AtlasCan you rephrase the question? The >> there's there's a sort of traditional gender expectation or dynamic under under chivalry where men will open a woman's car door, let her let her into

Brian Atlasthe car door, then get in the car. Men will open doors for women. Uh, and also if you're walking along a street, the sidewalk rule, men walk closer to where the cars are conceivably like as a form

Brian Atlasof protection or whatever from the dangers of the road. So those are the three examples. Should men do that? >> No. >> Okay. Is there anything men should do?

Sarah (Baptist)Should men pay for dates? All I would ask for a man was if he's a gentleman, then everything else falls into place.

Brian Atlas>> If he's Okay. So, when you say gentleman though, what is an example of aside from treating you nice and respectfully? What are some actual examples of actions one would take that would fall in line with

Sarah (Baptist)gentlemanly treatment? >> I think it'd be cute if he did things to surprise me that aren't traditional. Um cuz when I if I was involved with a man,

Sarah (Baptist)I would want us to have all of our inside jokes and ways that we do things and our little quirks and everything. Um but I no I wouldn't expect him to do all of those things that you just mentioned.

Sarah (Baptist)I mean, yeah, it'd be cute if he wants to, but I'm not going to hold it. I'm not going to love him any less. >> Do you want a guy who's a protector? >> Who doesn't? >> Okay. Well, that's traditional gender role. Um,

Sarah (Baptist)>> I mean, but I also I also would want to protect him as well. >> And not in the way that you might think. >> Okay. Um,

Sarah (Baptist)>> I would want to honor him and love him and serve him, submit to him. Um, bring him joy and gladness and make his life a lot better. >> You won't bow. You won't do the bow. Uh, is there anything? Will you cook for

Brian Atlashim? >> Of course. >> Will you clean? >> Of course. I don't know. That's my confusion here. You'll cook, you'll clean, but won't thou.

Brian Atlas>> That sounds fun and cute. >> Um, okay. Um, will you take going around the table? Uh, will you take your Who here wants to get married first off? Do you want to

Brian Atlasget married one day? Okay. Will you take your husband's last name? >> I don't know. I've thought about it. I haven't come to a conclusion. I thought about it a lot cuz I have a long last name. Yeah. >> Yes. Proudly. >> Yes.

Brian Atlas>> Yes. >> I will one day when he is not currently in the line of work he's in. >> When you get married though, so we're not asking. Okay. I'm not asking you about if you

Alyssa (Harvard)will get married. The simp the question is you do want to get married, right? >> I'm not saying that I'm not married. I have a partner because we don't disclose personal things of our relationship publicly because of his job. >> Okay. Hypothetically speaking, whether

Brian Atlasyou're married or you're not married, would it be to your liking to take your hypothetical husband's last name? >> Yes. One day. >> Oh boy, I can't believe I have to do these like ridiculous explanations.

Brian AtlasOkay. What about you? >> I would wear it as a badge of honor. >> So, you would take your husband's last name? >> Yes. >> Okay. Final question for you. You called me Satan. Was that just like a joke or >> she did not call you Satan?

Sarah (Baptist)>> Didn't she call me? Where was I? >> No. No. No. No. That's That's almost correct. >> What did you call me? The devil. I don't know. >> No, no, no. I would. No. No. >> Chad, didn't she call me Satan? >> Brian, I said that you're twisting scriptures the way that Satan says twist

Brian Atlasscriptures. I'm not saying that you are Satan. Obviously, you're not. >> Oh, okay. So, you I was doing something like Satan. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> That's crazy. >> Okay. >> You should dress up as Satan in

Brian AtlasHalloween costume. >> Halloween. You should be like sexy. I'm not sure how it's twisting scripture, but anyways, we're I'm not going to I'm not going to debate you on that. >> Have you read the Bible cover to cover? >> How would that matter?

SPEAKER_12>> I've read most of it. Yes, I have. >> What the book? You have so much free time. >> I haven't. What? How does that help with your point?

Brian Atlas>> Have you read the Quran? >> No. >> What the [ __ ] bro? These questions are out out of nowhere. Oh, boy. Okay, guys. $30 TTS. We're going to do the row session, then we're

Brian Atlasgoing to hopefully get this uh wrapped up here momentarily. A [ __ ] I closed the thing. Uh letting some of these come through.

SPEAKER_00We have Oh, boy. Oh, >> based Thor donated $30. Question for the panel. Brian, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_00>> Transgender son or 304 cornstar daughter? You have to pick one and reasoning. Why? >> Bro, we we're not going to do reasoning. It's That's going to take too long. It's the roast session.

Violet>> Which do you pick? >> Um, I guess I'd go transgender son. >> Can you go both? I don't both. >> You got to pick one. Got to pick one. >> Um,

Brian Atlasprobably porn star. I don't care. >> Okay. >> Hell. Um, >> guys, please just go quick. Go quick. >> A transgender son.

SPEAKER_11>> Transgender son. >> Porn star daughter. >> Porn star daughter. That's not up to me. >> Oh my god.

Madam Houston>> Let's just keep it moving, please. >> All right. Uh Chloe, >> uh trans son, I guess. >> It's a hard one. It's [ __ ] hard.

Madam Houston>> The daughter is going to end up being a little [ __ ] anyway. whether that >> you think girls are just inevitably going to be what did you say? >> I think a girl is going to inevitably have sex. So whether it be on camera or

Brian Atlasnot then have that than a transgender. >> I'll go with the the the the daughter who's a hoe >> cuz I can

Brian Atlas>> like once they've transitioned like you've made per perma changes that you can't walk back. >> Same. So in this case, like yeah, she

Brian Atlaswas a hoe, but she can be >> No, she is a hoe. She was not. >> Oh, perma. >> She is. >> Why? In my brain, I'm like, maybe they can change.

Brian Atlas>> Like you can dransition. You can not be a hoe anymore. >> Oh, >> but just like permanently. >> Or you could teach her how to hoe correctly. So >> that's a that's a good one. Day store.

SPEAKER_00Okay, that's the case. All right, we have roast coming in. Chef Dill Pickles donated $30 looking like Wreckit Ralph. >> No, it doesn't do you justice. That's great. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00>> No, you look beautiful. >> It's okay. I'll take it. >> Doesn't do you justice. >> Ain't it that big guy that be jumping on stuff? >> Chef Dill Pickles donated $30. Chef looking like Blueace's sparring partner.

SPEAKER_00I mean, baby mama. >> What? >> Baby mama. >> Blue >> Sean Rock. I That's >> Well, I don't think Ran Rock is ugly. She's just missing the donated $30 around the table. What are the five

Madam Houstonmother's sauces? >> I have no idea what that is. I don't know. What is that? >> Ketchup, mustard, mayo, all that. >> Come. >> What the Oh my god, bro. >> Jesus. >> That's [ __ ] disgusting. >> It is not.

SPEAKER_00>> That's the best. >> Oh my god, bro. Den >> Chris Bennett donated $30.

SPEAKER_00The biggest tig. >> What the [ __ ] Y'all crazy. >> Biggest to be. >> Holy [ __ ] >> That's my favorite. >> Y'all crazy. >> CC women suck donated $30. >> Hey, be nice.

Brian Atlas>> W in the chat for Abby. You guys wouldn't get it. Wrain as well. >> Uh, thank you for that. Appreciate it. $30 ttsdreamabs.com/w whatever. Get it

Brian Atlasin. Get it in. Get it in. Uh, also Nick, we're going to do some quick pull-ups after this next TTS. >> Barrier Wisdom donated $30. Truth science says families overall thrive

SPEAKER_00when men lead and women nurture. It's called submissive. Flings and sex work feel fun now but leave you empty later in life. Make America great again. The end.

Brian Atlas>> Uh, Nick, pull up Cash App, Venmo. Um, you can also do the thing in StreamYards there. Okay. Uh, yo, Trevor, thank you for the five. Troy, thank for the 10. John, thank for the 30 via Venmo.

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Brian Atlaswhatever. Okay, we have more coming through. Hold on one sec, guys. Oh, where is it? Wait, what? Oh, here it

Brian Atlasis. My bad. Uh, okay. We have one sec, guys. $30 TTS, guys. Like the video. Also, if you're enjoying the stream, like the video. Like the video.

SPEAKER_00Okay. >> Thippy donated $30. First time donator. You and team run a good show. Keep up the hard work.

SPEAKER_00>> Oh, that was nice. >> Thank you for that. Appreciate it. We have >> Grant donated $29. >> You bought something. You can do this through the merch store, too. >> One total $29.99

SPEAKER_00MSG. Rip my ears from the word salad. RN. >> My ears from the word salad. >> Leah donated $30. For the perfect man, I let him put a damn chum bucket bucket

SPEAKER_00over my head and chant all hail husband's name. TF, where's Andrew? I miss the cutie patootie. >> I would do for the perfect woman, I would do some crazy [ __ ]

SPEAKER_05>> Like what? >> Oh god. >> Would you do the machine? >> I mean, I could give you the I could give you a joke. >> Salad. >> Do the dishes. >> A salad

Brian Atlas>> or a salad. Oh, [ __ ] I mean, I definitely don't want to do that, but >> debate about it, but >> would you bow for her?

SPEAKER_00>> Yes, he said he would. Yes. >> Uh, okay. Anyways, let's see. >> Ch XD donated $30. The idea of a virtuous duty is a sense of

SPEAKER_00universality. You don't pick and choose them or choose when to follow them. If the request doesn't violate reason or God's laws, it would fit the paradigm. >> Yeah. Also, to be clear, when it comes

Brian Atlasto being submissive, if your husband or boyfriend or whatever says, "I want you to jump off a bridge," you can rightfully say no. That's not

Brian Atlasunder the the metrics of what would be like an expectation under a woman being submissive or like hurt harm yourself physically

Brian Atlasbut a bow. Yeah, that's Yeah, that's fine. Uh, okay. We have Wait, let me read this one. Oh, he's coming in hot.

SPEAKER_00>> L nectts donated $29. C1, no souls ginger. C2 of massive cans

SPEAKER_00thought. C3 ran through cooked milk. C4 doesn't miss meals 304.

SPEAKER_00C5 captain ran through horse face 304. C6 drop out Harvard. C7 captain slow for eyes. C8 l neckts.

SPEAKER_00>> Your mama a [ __ ] >> I agree. Donated30. >> Thank you. >> I will never bow. My ego is too big. I have been taught I am more important

SPEAKER_00than unborn babies and can abort them. Why should I bow for a man? >> You're gay. >> Your ex donated $30. Hey Brian, good work tonight as always. Would it be

SPEAKER_00possible to one day get Nick? >> Nick in chat. I certainly hope this isn't considered sing. >> You got to pay the tax. >> Mr. Bastman donated $30. What can the

SPEAKER_00patriarchy do for you today? getting stabbed on the subway. We can fix that. One condition, let go of the [ __ ] res. What do >> you mean?

SPEAKER_00>> We can take away what you asked for, but we won't until you ask. >> Crusader Joe donated $30. Brian did not twist scripture. The woman is supposed

SPEAKER_00to submit to the man. You dumb hoes miss the point because you don't understand self-sacrificing love. You're only concerned about your own vision. I have self sacrificing. >> Yeah. Wait, how exactly did I twist

Brian Atlasscripture? >> You just misqued me. >> No, I there was I read it from the Google. >> I don't want to get back. >> Well, I'm asking you.

Brian Atlas>> I'm not going to argue with you, Brian. >> So, did I or did I not twist scripture? It's a pretty pretty uh crazy claim to make. >> Yes.

Sarah (Baptist)>> I But I don't understand. I read it ver pretty much verbatim. How did I twist it? >> It just seems like you don't understand like anything that I ever try to say.

Sarah (Baptist)Like every time I say something that is different to you, it's like I've um I'm a whatever those whatever those people called me. >> Well, even if that was true, even if I

Brian Atlasdidn't understand anything you said, how would that be evidence of me twisting scripture? >> I don't expect you to understand. But even if I didn't understand anything

Sarah (Baptist)that you said, that wouldn't be >> It's something that's spiritually discerned. >> Spiritually discerned. >> Yes. Just like Raymond. >> Yeah. But how would that be twisting scripture?

SPEAKER_00>> All right. Nice. Okay. L neck tax donated $29.

SPEAKER_00C1 mijinger. C2 grows of nerd. C3 captain reformed cornstar. C4 looks hungry. >> I am hungry.

SPEAKER_00>> Ghetto captain 304 with horse face longer than Monday. C6 cooked thought. >> Captain pick me crazy. >> I love that. I was never, >> you know, one thing about the men that

Madam Houstoncomment in these uh group chats is that they expect to be like what yearned by a woman, but y'all talk to women like that. So, I think that y'all are taking the wrong turn. You know, if you're not

Madam Houstonfinding somebody that you like or that likes you, maybe be likable. Y'all are nerds with no [ __ ] >> Like, get a life. >> Try that. >> Also, I'm not the only one that does

SPEAKER_00only phones. Plug yourself, girl. I just don't think you can take it personally. Like I'm literally >> Oh, no. I'm not taking it personal, but I am going to talk my [ __ ] >> $30. >> Come on. >> Seven won't bow cause. She physically

SPEAKER_00can't with that foo in the way. >> Yeah, >> girl. That's not right. I agree. Yes, I'm overweight. >> White t-shirt_no_.

SPEAKER_00>> It's a roast session. You guys are going to get roasted for the $305 looks like a valley horse. I bet she has foam on her navl. 280mm. >> Show your face.

SPEAKER_00>> Desert judge donated $30. #freick.

Brian Atlas>> #freick. Nick, you going to come on stream or >> Nick? Come on. >> Not tonight. I guess he doesn't want to. He doesn't want to. Um,

SPEAKER_00>> XD donated $30. All right. S taxfinic. Isn't Brian simply interpreting scripture in the same way you are? Did

SPEAKER_00you get this position from a church father or are you using solar scriptura? >> That's not orthodox

Sarah (Baptist)>> that those for you. >> I do lean toward reformed Baptist. Um but not any one denomination has everything completely correct.

Sarah (Baptist)Mhm. >> And it's not it's not about knowing. It's important to know scripture, but to know the God of wrote the scripture.

Brian Atlas>> This chick is off camera more than she's on camera. >> Y'all can't even show y'all draws cuz all y'all dirty. >> I got back problems. I got back problems. >> All sit in front of a computer all day.

Brian Atlas>> [ __ ] I mean, this show wouldn't go so long if people just answered [ __ ] questions. >> Oh, I'm a rose back. >> Uh, okay. A few more things we had to go over some of the pre-show notes and then that's pretty much it. Okay. Going through your notes that you provided

Brian Atlasbefore the show via DM. >> Uh you said the it's 30M is the size >> and UK sizes. Yeah. >> 30 R in >> like 28R to get custom bras. >> Yeah, I do.

Summer>> That's like >> That's crazy. >> And they're still growing. >> Is there a Z? Can you have a Z size? >> Probably in like 5 years. Yeah. Well, cuz I have a condition so they just continuously grow. So, they're just going to keep >> Tell us the KFC man story.

Summer>> No, >> you wrote it. Give us the short version if you can. >> Oh, okay. Okay. >> Like rapid fire. >> Okay. After my relationship with my man for 9 years, I thought I would be like a

Summerlittle slap. Um, so I met up with someone off Tinder and they came to my house. [ __ ] in my toilet in my guest bathroom. Um, and then they went, we

Summerwere meant to go on a date, but they took me to KFC after I said I was vegan. ate a bargain bucket in front of me and then we went and had sex and straight

Chloe Romaaway he ate my ass. >> No preparation. The >> fact that you still [ __ ] after you shat >> I know. You know >> that's where it was more live. Like the

SummerKFC wasn't the bad part. >> I was trying to be a hoe, but I I'm not I can't do it. It was really hard. >> Honestly, I would prefer if the order was reversed. >> Chicken breath though. Tell us the rest. >> Chicken breath all in your ass. Tell us

Brian Atlasthe rest. >> What? They ate my ass. I said that. >> What? What about the the undergarments? >> E. >> I don't want to.

Summer>> It's not bad. It's not. It's funny. >> No, he he left wearing my my panties. >> He stole them. >> He did. >> He stole her. >> I don't want to out him. It's so It's so bad. But he did. He did. He left wearing

Summerthem. And then that's when I decided that I don't do um one night stands. >> When did he put it on? Did he like slip it on after? Did he steal it to the bathroom? Shoot his own pants. >> Um, >> yeah.

Summer>> How did he end up in your underwear? >> Yeah, he brought an overnight bag and he was like, "Maybe I should stay over it." And I was like, "Maybe not." >> That's That's honestly not the worst part of the story. >> It's not the eating ass without preparation is to be honest.

Summer>> I think it's bend over. I was like, "Okay, some doggy." No, man. Ate my ass. No prep. >> Wow, that is an interesting story there.

Summer>> Yeah, it was really sad. Now I'm a devote Christian. No ass, no butt stuff. >> Uh, okay. We have Britney here. Um, h,

Brian Atlasforgi for forgiveness after infidelity. Did you cheat on somebody? Wait, hold on. Oh my god. Britney, >> I haven't started speaking yet. I know. I haven't started speaking yet. So, >> put your mic Just put your mic where it should be, please.

Britney>> Is that Is that I mean, once I start speaking, it's going to be right here in front of my face. >> I love it. Um, >> you said you dated. So, did you cheat on somebody? >> No, I didn't do the cheating. >> Oh, they cheated on you, but you forgave them. >> And it's Yeah, that was

Brian Atlas>> Love it. Sorry, I'm going to blast through these super quick just for the sake of time. >> Uh, you said you dated Now you're >> No, I'm just refreshing myself. Don't mind me. >> Okay.

Brian AtlasUh, dating someone in the limelight. So, you dated a celebrity or something? >> A musician. Yeah, definitely a name. No. >> It was definitely an interesting experience. >> Can you say who? >> Nope. >> Can you say what genre of music?

Brian Atlas>> Rapper. >> Uh, no. No. No. No. >> Yes. >> Not a rapper. No. >> Oh, >> no. Not a rapper. >> Rockar, but >> more so. Yes. And it was >> Weird. Did you [ __ ] Weird Al Yanovic? You seem like you would be DTF for Weird

BritneyAl. >> Just just to just add something crazy to my um resume to be like, I did this. I took it back to the late 90s and early 2000s. Is it true though? Was it Weird Al? Somebody DM'd me. No, I'm just

Britneykidding. >> That is hilarious. Um, and it was, like I said, it was just definitely a learning experience. And, um, >> yeah, that's it. >> All right, >> I'm going leave it there. >> Uh, we won't be able to hit all your notes, but um,

Brian Atlas>> I gave options. >> Yeah. Uh, let's see. >> Can you wait? >> Like I said, I gave you all options. Does dating a creative genius come with

Britneyemotional highs and lows that not everyone can handle? >> Oh, 10,000. >> He was a creative genius. >> Oh, the most musically

Britneytalented human being I have. >> He was famous >> that I've ever met in my entire life. Pardon? >> Band or solo act? >> Solo. >> Dave Matthews.

Britney>> I will I I I'm not going to say that. >> Okay. Um, but it definitely came with learning that these people definitely have a neurode divergent >> personality. Oh, 1,000%.

Britney>> I would have never guessed. >> And it started putting me like in this very weird place of like not walking on eggshells, but I had to teach myself to be prepared for the great moments and

Brian Atlasthen the extreme drops. >> Extreme drops. >> Oh, yeah. Big time. >> Uh, you said that. Uh hold on one sec. Uh you said despite your line

Brian Atlasof work or past work, you still have traditional values. >> I feel like step one though to being traditional is like not being a sex worker, you know? >> Well, that's a kind of a big one, I

Britneyfeel. >> No, I agree 100%. While I was in a relationship, that was it was not going on. And after the breakup, then I decided to fully go back to work full-time. I was like, "Okay, playboy,

Britneyhere I come." But as far as everything else, when it comes to raising a family, being submissive to my husband, um, traditional gender roles is what we talked about earlier. Um, then, you

Britneyknow, before you even commit to anybody, covering what you know, picking at least three core values and making sure that your values align. So when it comes to those, absolutely I believe that, you

Britneyknow, >> those are first in line. >> But if I'm with somebody, I think it's really no judgment to anybody, but anybody who's in that line of work and they have a husband or boyfriend who's

Brian Atlasokay with them doing that. >> Okay. Uh I don't know. just I feel like like a woman could say that she cooks and she cleans and she's submissive, but

Brian AtlasI feel like there's a maybe I don't know if bottleneck is the right way. I feel like if you're a sex worker, it's like Yeah, but then you're not traditional. >> No. And that makes 100% sense, you know,

Brian Atlasand I respect everyone's point of view. >> Moving to you, we hit some of your notes. We talked about gender roles excessively, so we did that. You you do say you're not a feminist, but you're not 100% traditional either.

Brian Atlas>> Really quick, what what are the ways in which you you don't fall under traditional? >> Well, I mean, I work I have a full-time career. I make more money than >> What about the dynamics in a relationship? Are you not traditional in

Alyssa (Harvard)certain ways there aside from just working? >> Um I mean like I contribute. I don't expect him to pay for my like personal expenses. >> Okay. So, you're kind of 5050 financially.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. I mean, I would would say like our house, he owned that before, >> you know, we met. So, that kind of stuff is still his domain. But >> the only other thing for you that we didn't hit on was maybe we did just a

Alyssa (Harvard)teeny bit uh different opinions about plastic surgery. I kind of gave my position. >> I was just saying I think a lot of times it's like women doing it for themselves rather than for the male gays. And I also >> sure

Alyssa (Harvard)>> I I think it's completely understandable that you have your own personal aesthetic preferences. I disagree with the notion though that women that pursue plastic surgery are fake because I think

Alyssa (Harvard)a lot of times they're actually being more real in a world where the culture is delusional and right I'm a 10, you're a 10, he, she, it is a 10. Uh I think a lot of times when people pursue plastic

Alyssa (Harvard)surgery it's because they're looking in the mirror and saying I am not at my peak physical attraction and I could try to change the entire narrative of you

Alyssa (Harvard)know society thinks this and that or I can admit that I'm just not as attractive as some other people are and I can do something to change that. So I think sometimes the rationale is not

Alyssa (Harvard)necessarily that of being fake. I think it's being incredibly honest and being incredibly real with yourself, which I think has become a lost concept in

Brian Atlastoday's culture. >> But I guess my counter to that would be if you just stopped. So you you say you made this realization that there's this thing about me that I don't like.

Brian AtlasWhether it's, you know, you have a small upper lip or I'm not speaking about you specifically, just in general, uh my breasts aren't the right side, the size that I'd like them to be. they're too small. Um, I my face I need to the

Brian AtlasBotox, whatever. I don't know if it's wrinkles or why women do that, but uh or I want my face to be shaped in this certain way. >> Um, why can't it in terms of it being real,

Brian Atlasthat first step that you mentioned of acknowledging that, that's the real part. But then when you go into I'm going to use

Brian Atlasartificial means to change my physical appearance then we are getting into I mean it it's in the term of the surgery plastic surgery. It's plastic. It's in it's not real. It's not genuine.

Alyssa (Harvard)>> Well and I think most people that have plastic surgery acknowledge that they're they are recognizing that oh this is not my you know I didn't do anything to deserve this or earn this or am blessed

Alyssa (Harvard)with this. I have a problem that I don't like and I'm gonna pay to fix it. And I mean that's just how the world works. You have a problem, you pay to fix it or you can complain and cry about it your whole life.

Brian Atlas>> I got it. >> I mean or you can you can accept uh you you don't necessarily need to fix

Brian Atlasthe thing and there I would dispute if certain things even need fixing. Uh, I don't think women with small breasts are in need of fixing.

Brian Atlas>> Well, >> like there's nothing wrong. There's nothing wrong with women who have small breath. They're not defective. They're not any of these things. Uh, from my perspective, there's nothing to be fixed.

Alyssa (Harvard)>> Well, I mean, this is coming from somebody I have had worked on. I couldn't wear certain clothes because my frame was so small in certain areas. And then it was so big. I wouldn't have been

Alyssa (Harvard)able to wear this dress. I wouldn't have been able to wear certain blouses. I couldn't wear anything strapless because it was just not fit me right. I was completely disproportional. >> Yeah, I get

Brian Atlas>> um uh I mean I don't know if not being able to wear certain articles of clothing from my perspective would ever be grounds to like undergo,

Alyssa (Harvard)>> right? You just got to >> dangerous surgery. just be like I mean they make there's alterations you can see >> but what I'm saying is if somebody is personally unhappy with something they can recognize this doesn't look good or

Alyssa (Harvard)I don't like the way that this looks and I think a lot of times as women yes it is being insecure um and it's internalize you internalize those insecurities why live life being

Alyssa (Harvard)insecure about something and even if you're the only person that notices it because I've never I never receive that complaint from people or was bullied for it. It was just something I was so

Brian Atlasself-conscious about and then I fixed it and then I never thought about it again. And >> well, I I would like to instill in women

Brian Atlasinstead of this let's default to plastic surgery. I would prefer to instill in the woman perhaps it's the case that you are insecure about something with your

Brian Atlasbody and look certain things you know can't obviously breast size you can't really do anything about that but you know you if if it's about your weight or your butt you can do some squats for that >> hit the gym

Brian Atlas>> uh for sure >> but I I would like to rather than jump to let's go under anesthesia which always carries a risk of death or you know some sort of injury uh it's very

Brian Atlasexpensive. Perhaps you'll be left with scars. Perhaps you get botched or perhaps there's complications with the surgery. I would say why don't we as a

Brian Atlassociety like tackle this idea of these sort of crazy beauty standards and why

Brian Atlasdon't we why don't we give women a constitution of mind where they're like okay my breasts I don't have big breasts

Brian Atlasbut that's okay and I'm not going to resort to surgery to fix something that doesn't need to be there's nothing wrong

Brian Atlasthere. And I want I would like women to have a force of will where they're like, I'm okay with how this is. Now, I'm not saying you should be a slob and just be

Brian Atlasobese or something. And you should obviously take care of your health, take care of your body. But when it comes to things that only through surgical intervention you can fix, I would always

Brian Atlaslean towards how can we improve women's strength of mind and constitution away from resorting to plastic surgery. >> I I completely agree with you. I wish

Alyssa (Harvard)society we did that. But as someone has who grew up as the smart girl, as the nerdy girl, that was not socially rewarded. Sure in the context of my

Alyssa (Harvard)parents and my teachers it was but amongst my peers that is not something that you get rewarded for you know well into your adolescence. >> So looks matter too.

Alyssa (Harvard)>> Absolutely. Looks matter and you are you're treated completely different and now you you feel maybe it's um correlation not causation but the

Alyssa (Harvard)confidence that you have going through society. I mean it it it sounds very extreme and very dramatic, but it did completely change my confidence and

Alyssa (Harvard)my frame of mind and how I navigated different business situations because I just felt great about myself and the things that are very difficult for people to obtain, right? It's hard for

Alyssa (Harvard)people to study. It's hard for people. Those were things that came easy to me. So, it was always upsetting like why couldn't I just like look pretty? Why couldn't I be like these other guys?

Alyssa (Harvard)>> What have you had done? >> Um, I have had my I have implants. >> Mhm.

Alyssa (Harvard)>> I have lip filler that's not permanent. Um, I have had my nose and >> lip filler nose botox in the face.

Madam Houston>> Uh, any >> there? Yeah, there's Botox in my eyes side of my eyes. >> I see. Okay. >> I don't see nothing wrong with that [ __ ] cuz I know when I get old, I'mma want Botox, too, because that's what women

Madam Houstonare vain. Like, we're going to want to stay pretty. And if I can do that to stay pretty for as long as possible. Hey, >> but I don't know if I'm a revolutionary

Brian Atlashere, but I would like to see a societal paradigm where women there wasn't these insane beauty standards on men or women. OB look I you

Brian Atlascan look good you can want to achieve an aspirational body type perhaps you can this could best be achieved through natural means uh there's >> I I work out I go to the gym I

Brian Atlas>> of course but when it comes to plastic surgery specifically I my view is these procedures are not medically indicated they can often come with risks and downsides and expenses

Brian Atlas>> my nose did have medical reasons as well >> sure people have deviated symptoms I understand that. But I'm talking like the the degree of invasiveness. So like as you start going down the line, uh

Brian Atlasbreast implants, that's more invasive. BBL, that's invasive. Liposuction, very invasive. All these things are invasive and dangerous procedure. Uh procedures. Uh well, BBL people die from

Brian AtlasBBLs and stuff. >> I think that's the most dangerous. Yeah, >> it is very dangerous. Um, I guess I would just want a different societal paradigm where it's like this is not

Brian Atlaswhat people are resorting to >> like for for cases of actual deformity for reasons the the originating reason

Brian Atlasfor plastic surgery where people had like severe deformities either from from war wounds, you know, somebody loses half their face, crazy burns. Um, but

Brian Atlasjust purely cosmetic reasons, you want to put like silicone in your chest. There's no medical indication for this. Absent like a woman who loses a breast

Madam Houstondue to breast cancer or something or I don't know, she somehow a titty gets chopped off. I don't know. Maybe you've had a couple close calls. >> Well, these women these women are obviously getting attention from men.

Brian AtlasSo, if the men were more strict on not getting it done, I'm pretty sure women wouldn't do it as much. Well, I I have criticisms for the men who have this preference. >> I'm not criticizing the men, though. I'm

Brian Atlasjust saying that they obviously like it. So, if the men like it and the women do it, I don't see nothing wrong with it. >> I think two things. If a guy has a preference towards women who have plastic surgery, I think from a woman's perspective, that's a red flag. The red

Brian Atlasflag you should look out for. But if you're dating a guy and he's trying to get he wants you to get plastic surgery, that's a red flag, too. You should dump the dude instantly if he's like trying

Brian Atlasto even if he's willing to pay for the [ __ ] If he's if he's like, "Babe, I want you to get fake titties." That's a red flag. Dump that [ __ ] guy. >> Agreed. >> If you want me to get fake titties,

Brian AtlasI'mma get fake titties. >> Your titties are great. >> I'm just a natural kid, so don't even trip. >> What' you say? >> Huh? >> You you you talking >> I said you're already I said you're already good. So you Why would you get fake titties? >> You don't need them. >> Oh, thank you. >> That's crazy.

Alyssa (Harvard)>> They're great. Yeah, I I would have never p not to be staring at you. I mean, I would have never pursued plastic surgery if I had naturally had that. But >> but I don't think that women should be ashamed if they want it or not. That's

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