HEATED Debate With Harvard Grad! HER League = Henry Cavill?! Chloe Roma Army! | Dating Talk #261

Date: 2025-09-22

Duration: 8h 09m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAlyssa (Harvard)>

MMadam Houston >

SSarah (Baptist)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Chloe Roma(guest)

SPEAKER_04Jenny (UK)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Summer(guest)

SPEAKER_07Alyssa (Harvard)(guest)

SPEAKER_08Britney(guest)

SPEAKER_09Violet(guest)

SPEAKER_10Madam Houston(guest)

SPEAKER_13Felicity(guest)

SPEAKER_14Sarah (Baptist)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduce themselves including Alyssa playing piano

ControversyBrian challenges Summer: Christian + OnlyFans = vegetarian eating hamburger

Key MomentHarvard verification quiz: Alyssa identifies Annenberg dining hall, Drew Faust as president

QuoteMadam Houston: Kirk died 'doing what he loved, badass way to go out'

ControversyHeated clash between Chloe Roma and Madam Houston

Key MomentBrian negotiates Britney from $500K to $90K in Idaho

QuoteSummer's KFC date: man defecated, took vegan to KFC, ate her ass, stole her panties

ControversySarah vs Brian: Ephesians 5:22 submission debate. Sarah accuses Brian of twisting scripture like Satan.

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

All guests including Harvard grad Alyssa who played piano live.

Christianity vs OnlyFans

Summer claims God is happy she makes men happy. Sarah dying inside.

Charlie Kirk Memorial

Panel discusses assassination and public response.

Relationship Status Round

Summer single 2 years. Violet never had boyfriend. Britney single 1 month.

Feminism Debate

Brian: feminism is women's advocacy not equality. Jenny: all women are 10s.

Body Count Round

Summer 8. Britney personal <10/work 100+. Jenny ~30s. Chloe 11.

Bow/Submission Segment

Brian shows ex bowing video. Sarah vs Brian on Ephesians 5:22.

Transcript

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Madam Houstonget into the relationship now, the man that she is dealing with doesn't want her to do what she was doing when she first got into the relationship. That just seemed like somebody was lying. So, possibly get with somebody that doesn't lie to you. >> I agree.

Brian Atlas>> I don't know. Maybe just look, whatever. Okay, you're doing the Playboy [ __ ] I don't know. Maybe take the Bible verse out, you know? Maybe take the cross off. >> No, cuz I love it. Maybe take the cross off if you're [ __ ] I gang banged. >> I'm not getting gang bang.

Brian Atlas>> Okay, whatever you're doing. You're doing girl. Do you do girl girl content? >> Um I done my first um boy girl like two days ago. It was really >> Were you wearing your cross during You know, look, maybe at least take the cross off

Summerit. >> Yeah, maybe take it off. >> I'm not thinking about it when it like >> you're doing you're doing the Playboy thing and then there's a lot of other revealing things on your Instagram. Look, whatever it is, what it is.

Britney>> Well, a lot Let me let me say this in my defense. Anything other than the Playboy on my Instagram, which can be it's very public where I am showing >> my my bottom

Britney>> y >> or core. A lot of my core stuff I've been currently talking about cortisol detox, the importance of detoxing cortisol. And for a lot of women when they're older, I've talked about you're not fat. You have too much cortisol in

Britneyyour body. And this is the before and after. And this is what happens. the importance of when you're going through a hormone change, when your muscles start dropping and the importance of maxing out on protein and stuff. And that is why I show my body because the

Britneyproof is in the pudding. So, if I'm showing my core and I'm showing my bottom, that I see nothing wrong with. Now, is Playboy godlike? Absolutely not.

BritneyIs it a sin? Yes, it is. >> So, you should just be proud of what you do. you did sex work and you did that [ __ ] and you >> but what I'm saying is I am a Christian and I do align with very conservative beliefs but I am also aware of what my

Madam Houstonactions are and I'm not going to sit here and justify and say that it's not sinning because it absolutely is. >> You don't need to justify but you also cannot have it both ways. It can't you can't fall on both sides of the fence.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. So just here to get this moving on here the question is do you think God wants you doing Playboy? >> And I said no. >> Okay. What do you think Satan wants you doing? Exactly that. That's it's

Britney>> all right. That's very difficult to reconcile. Okay, moving this on though. Quick question. >> It's an honest answer and I'm not going to justify it and try and go beat around the bush. It's not that it's hard to reconcile. >> No, no, no, no. Stop. Moving on. Uh

Brian AtlasHarvard. You went to Harvard. A couple guests have asked or a couple people watching have wanted me to ask you some questions here. Uh because I don't know if we've have we

Brian Atlashad anybody on the show who's been to Harvard? I don't know. Uh uh let's see. What house were you in? >> So I actually wasn't in a house. I lived off campus. >> Okay. >> So that's like not very very common at

Brian Atlasall. >> Oh yes. >> Um but after your first year, you can live off of campus. >> Who was the president of Har? This is a quiz here. Who was the president of Harvard when you were there? >> Drew Fast.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. All right. Now, can you name one major lecture hall? >> Uh Harvard. Harvard Hall, which is right. >> What's the John Harvard statue known as?

Alyssa (Harvard)>> What is it? No, like the one that everyone pees on. >> No. What's the John Harvard statue known as? >> Yeah, the one that every I >> It's known as the statue >> like the one in the yard. Yeah, the one

Alyssa (Harvard)that >> It's the statue of what? >> Well, it's not actually John Harvard. It was like somebody that was pretending or not pretending to be him but like modeled >> statue of three lies. >> Never mind.

Alyssa (Harvard)>> That that doesn't ring a bell. >> Have you What is Annenburgg? >> Annenburgg. Oh, that's the library. Oh, no. No, that's a dining hall. Sorry. >> That's right. I think she's got That's

Brian Atlaslike the I I graduated over 10 years ago now. So, >> congrats. We just We got to do a little verification check here. All right. Going around the table once more, getting into some of the dating stuff. Or you know what? Hold on. One final

Brian Atlasquestion, then we get into the dating stuff. Charlie Kirk had his memorial today. >> The question is to the panel. What do you think about what happened to

VioletCharlie Kirk? Starting with you. >> Well, um, I did not agree with Charlie Kirk and anything that he stood for, but I also think that violence is never the way that we should solve disputes.

VioletDo you think it was justified in any way? >> No, I don't think that assassination is justified, but I that doesn't change how I felt about him while he was alive. >> What do you think about the people who were like rejoicing in his

Violet>> I mean, I think that it's disrespectful to rejoice about violence in any circumstance. I mean, I understand where people were coming from when they were glad that he wasn't, you know, doing what he was doing because I do think

Violetthat a lot of it was damaging. But um I also do think that it's disrespectful and also it pushes a narrative that it's okay to solve disputes in that way and

Brian Atlasit's just not true. >> Okay. So you uh disagree with people celebrating or otherwise rejoicing in his assassination? >> Uh I would I would say so. >> Okay. Your thoughts? Um, I think it's

Summersuper sad that like some American guy died. But I think people die every day and we should be sad about that also instead of just caring about one person that's died. I also don't think people

Summershould be rejoicing that he died. But I don't think that it should always be just about him when people are dying every day, every second. But you do understand that typically

Brian Atlaswhen somebody has a really large following and especially if they've had an impact on people and you've been wellconed that this is going to obviously draw more attention because of the public nature.

Summer>> No, totally. Which is it's really sad that he died. Um and obviously I don't agree with like >> Mhm. >> guns or anything like where I'm from. >> Your thoughts?

Britney>> I have no words. It's It's heartbreaking. The response of people absolutely disgusting. >> Mhm. >> Um

BritneyI've never been one to get emotional over a a person's death who I've never been in person connected to. However, the response of people, the

Britneylack of humanity shook my soul in a way that I can't put words to. Even the other day, I had reposted

Britneysomething about all these people getting closer to God. And because of this, it they're like, "I've never been to church. I've never believed in God, but I'm going to give this God uh, you know, this God thing a try." And, you know,

Britneyall these testimonies. And somebody had responded, "Yuck." And that just that that took me out and it just kind of shows where humanity is at. And

Jenny (UK)>> All right. What about you? >> Um I think no one should die or be assassinated. Um I don't agree with gun violence. Um I don't agree with Charlie

Jenny (UK)Kirk. I'm not going to mourn the wicked as it says. So I'm It's sad he died, but it doesn't really affect me being in the UK. So

Madam Houston>> Okay. Okay. What about you? >> I think Charlie Kirk died doing what he loved, which was debating people. So, I don't think it was a more badass way to go out.

Madam Houston>> Uh, okay. So, you think it was a badass way, but I mean, uh, in terms of what happened, do you think it was justified? Do you think he deserved it? >> I don't think nobody deserves to get gunned down because they got, you know,

Madam Houstonan opinion. I mean, that's like me getting shot because I say I hate Brian. I wouldn't want that to happen. So, I don't agree with somebody getting gunned down because if that's the case, then we can't say nothing. And if we can't say

Brian Atlasnothing, this isn't the great country that we come from. >> Okay. All right. And you think wrong. The people that are celebrating are rejoicing. You think that's wrong?

Madam Houston>> I think to each his own. I can't tell nobody what to do. Uh,

Brian AtlasI mean, I suppose you can't tell people what to do. Well, I suppose you could tell people what to do, whether they follow you or not is another thing. But do you just from your own perspective, do you think it would be wrong to

Madam Houstoncelebrate or rejoice? >> Them being happy that Charlie Kirk died is freedom of speech. Charlie Kirk having his opinions was freedom of speech. So, I don't think Charlie Kirk would disagree with the freedom of

Brian Atlasspeech. There's no dispute that it's freedom of speech, but clearly certain speech, even if you're free to say it, can be deemed like a wrong thing to do. Like, for example, it's free. Like,

Brian Atlastechnically, I could just like walk up to somebody in the street and just be like, "You're [ __ ] piece of shit." and walk away. But well, yes, it's my freedom of speech, but I'd be like, "That's wrong to do." >> Well, then that's >> But I have the freedom to do it, but it'd be wrong for me to do that.

Madam Houston>> Yeah. That's when we get into the semantics. I'm just talking about freedom of speech. That's it. like that's what he was an advocate for and I don't agree with somebody getting it taken out for being an advocate for freedom of speech if that's what he was doing in the first place.

Brian Atlas>> But so my question is people are rejoicing and celebrating his death. >> There's no dispute that they have the freedom to do that freedom of speech. The question is is it wrong?

Brian Atlas>> That's their freedom of speech, >> right? We've established that it's their freedom of speech. Like for Okay, for example, would you agree that uh it's freedom of speech to say racial slurs?

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, I would rather somebody know I would rather know somebody is racist so that I can say [ __ ] you back, >> right? But you would be wrong. Like it would be wrong to say a racial slur towards somebody. >> That's their freedom of speech. They

Brian Atlascould say whatever the hell they want in this country. >> I mean, isn't that the point? There's no dispute that freedom of speech exists, but I'm trying to you can't make any

Brian Atlasdelineation as to like right it's freedom of speech, but like this saying this is wrong or bad or malicious or evil. >> Well, the bill of rights don't they

Madam Houstondon't cover whether it's wrong or not. It's just rights to protect the bill of freedom of speech. I I was I wasn't done talking. >> Thank you. So the Bill of Rights covers the freedom of speech, the freedom of

Madam Houstonthreat, the pe freedom of press, the freedom of religion, and you got the freedom to say whatever the hell you want. So if somebody say whatever they want to me, I'm glad I could say what I want back, whether it's right or wrong.

Brian Atlas>> Hold on. When we are talking about right and wrong, good and evil, we're not this this isn't something necessarily legislated. We're not saying this should be like a crime. you shouldn't be

Brian Atlasallowed to say. So there's already agreement that is a it is free speech, but are you saying you can't make determinations as to what kind of speech

Brian Atlasor words that people say that you on your own level find reprehensible?

Brian Atlas>> Hold on. Let let me phrase it like let me frame it like this. It might be a bit better. Have you had a boyfriend, right? I've had friends. They were boys. >> You've been involved with men romantically. Has a man ever said something rude to you?

Brian Atlas>> Of course. >> So, we would agree that it's freedom of speech to say rude things. >> Yeah. >> But would you agree that it's wrong or bad or you shouldn't say rude things to people? >> Well, he may not have thought it was wrong. That's just the freedom of speech that he had.

Madam Houston>> Okay. What if a guy >> standing for what Carly Church if a guy called you? He wanted to say and debate whatever he wanted. People can say and debate whatever he wanted. I don't think he would disagree that somebody could say whatever they wanted, whether it was

Brian Atlasgood or bad, because are we talking about logic or are we talking about emotions? >> If you were in a relationship with a guy, is there anything that the guy could say to you that would upset you? >> Of course.

Brian Atlas>> Like he called you a name or he was verbally abusive. >> Yeah. >> And that would be wrong, right? >> Of course. >> Okay. So, you're able to make determinations there. So, but you would

Brian Atlasnot accept for example the justific well I have freedom of speech airgo I have freedom of speech airgo I should be able to be verbally abusive to my partner

Madam Houston>> you'd be like no it's it's wrong to be verbally abusive even though you have the freedom to be verbally abusive >> I just haven't gathered that much of an opinion about it people are using their freedom of speech which Charlie Kirk so called stood for so if they standing on

Chloe Romait I don't think he would >> just because you can do something doesn't mean you Yeah. You don't need the bell of the chart of rights and freedoms to tell you whether or not. >> And then that's just hypocritical because it's only okay when you're not offended. >> What? >> Wait.

Madam Houston>> Exactly. Why are we smearing the conversation? I said what I said. Let's just move on.

Alyssa (Harvard)>> I don't know. I've I've explained it three different ways. I Okay. Uh your thoughts? >> I think it's terrible. I I it's actually beyond my comprehension that it can't

Alyssa (Harvard)universally be agreed upon that murdering someone in front of their children and wife and thousands of other people is is wrong and not something

Alyssa (Harvard)that should be celebrated. The other thing is if you look I didn't agree with Charlie Kirk on every position that he took. I think he had the right to say it and he at least he encouraged that

Alyssa (Harvard)dialogue and a lot of people are not doing that. So I think he really paved the way in a lot of different ways and sure everybody has their freedom of speech. They can say what they want.

Alyssa (Harvard)They can feel however they want. I just think that it's a matter of decorum. I think it's distasteful to put online or

Alyssa (Harvard)amongst your friends or your co-workers that you're happy somebody died. I I think that that is just distasteful. There are certain things that you wouldn't say in a public

Alyssa (Harvard)forum like a racial slur or something of that sort. Uh and you have to understand if you say those sorts of things that are inflammatory and distasteful, there

Alyssa (Harvard)could be potential consequences of that. So, I I I don't agree. I don't hate people if they're glad that he died, but I think it's distasteful and gross.

Brian Atlas>> Maybe I want to take one final crack at explaining this. Okay. For example, somebody to to you, Madam, what's your what's your government name? >> You got my name right. There you go. >> I'm going to call you H or something. I don't know.

Brian Atlas>> Give me a nickname. Careful careful on that, Nick. >> Um, okay. So, I believe somebody has the freedom of speech to walk up to a racial minority and say a racial slur. I think

Brian Atlasthat nobody should do that and that that's wrong, but they technically have the freedom of speech to do it. And they may there may very well be consequences for that kind of speech either directly

Brian Atlasfrom the person they're saying it to although that well that not justifying that either but there would be >> like if I walk up to like a really buff

Brian Atlasguy and I'm like what's up [ __ ] like I'm probably going to get smacked in the face. Like technically he doesn't give him like legal justification to assault

Brian Atlasme but like if I walk up to somebody and like a dude Mhm. >> And I'm like, "What's up, pussy?" I'm getting a [ __ ] smack in the face. In that same vein though, uh I don't think

Brian Atlasand I I would say it's wrong to walk up to somebody and call them a racial slur. >> Do you agree with that? >> Everybody has their wrong and everybody got their right. >> All right, that that's uh Thank you.

Madam Houston>> You didn't like Charlie Kirk. It's okay to say that. >> Thank you for engaging. >> I appreciated somebody who advocates for freedom of speech. >> All right, moving on. What about you? What do you think? >> Oh, um,

Sarah (Baptist)>> quick thoughts if you can, please. Just >> Yes. Um, I can hear Erica crying in my heart. I can just hear crying from wherever she is. And the reason why I bring that up is

Sarah (Baptist)because in the book of Genesis in the Bible, when Cain killed Abel, it says that Abel's blood was crying up from the ground to the Lord. And I believe that

Sarah (Baptist)Charlie Kirk will have his day in God's court. And many people who um have disparaged him, I have no doubt that they will bow down to him and they will

Chloe Romaknow that God has loved them. And you can read that in Revelation. >> All right. Thank you, Chloe. Your thoughts? >> Yeah, I didn't um you know, I agree with some some topics of Charlie Kirks. Um a

Chloe Romamajority disagreed with. Um, however, I find it awfully moronic how the left in the US is supposed to be like so anti-gun, yet they're the first ones to celebrate an assassination. I think

Chloe Romathat's absolutely ridiculous and the highest form of hypocrisy. But, um, >> everybody look hypocritical to me. >> Anyways, what what can you do about it, right? I think it's pretty tragic that

Chloe Romahe got killed in front of his children. I don't think that's a a boss way to go out or however she put it. I think it's awfully Sorry, I'm just speaking. I think it's awfully tragic and anyone

Chloe Romathat's celebrating it needs uh to take a good look at themselves in the mirror.

Madam Houston>> Uh okay. All right. Um yeah. Do you want to revise the whole boss way to go out thing? I don't know. >> I say badass. He died doing what he loved. Wouldn't we all want to die doing what we loved

Alyssa (Harvard)>> or die unhappy? Your choice. >> Oh boy. All right. Um, >> you know, in in a strange way, I I kind of understand what you're saying because

Alyssa (Harvard)>> obviously it's horrific. It's terrible, >> but think of the conversation that this has led to. Think of all the new turning point chapters that this has started. If

Alyssa (Harvard)you're going to die, at least he died in a way that his legacy is being magnified like tfold

Alyssa (Harvard)over. It's sparking national conversation. I think it will lead more people to the right. Once again, it's a terrible thing. But if you have the option, I'm going to get hit by a bus or

Alyssa (Harvard)I'm going to be killed in a way that sparks movement and sparks reaction and continues my legacy for generations to come. >> Correct.

Alyssa (Harvard)>> Maybe that would be preferable. I don't know in in a I I don't necessarily completely agree with you, but I kind of understand what you're saying a little bit. >> So, what I'm hearing is that uh we should be okay with evil things because

SPEAKER_11good things can come out of them somehow. >> No, that's just real life. We can't avoid bad [ __ ] happening in life. >> Thou shalt not kill. That's one of the 10. >> And you supposed everybody shall love love thy neighbor, but it don't seem

Alyssa (Harvard)like you're doing that. So, you got to apply all the rules. I don't I don't I don't think she said that it was a good thing that Charlie Kirk was I I at no point I look I'm not defending one

Alyssa (Harvard)person or the I don't think she ever said that it was a good thing he didn't >> but I like using the example if you're going to get hit by a bus or your death is going to spark a national movement that you started from the ground up

Alyssa (Harvard)>> correct >> that sounds like how the devil's logic is >> do you think he would rather have gotten hit by a >> bus who hates the devil y'all sure No one gets to determine when somebody

Alyssa (Harvard)dies. There's a reason why it's in the top 10 of the commandments. >> Thou, right, thou shalt not kill is a commandment. >> And thou shalt love thy neighbor. >> And nobody >> So is killing our neighbors loving them.

Madam Houston>> I don't think anyone's saying that. >> You're putting words in my mouth and I do not appreciate that.

SPEAKER_00Barrier Wisdom donated $200 for chair five. Free speech matters, but if we stop caring about right and wrong, the streets pay the price. No morals means

Madam Houstonmore bodies, more chaos. That's not freedom, that's decay. >> I think the rights are just a good fundamentals to start with. However things go after that, it's just life. We

Madam Houstoncan't cry over spilled milk. Like [ __ ] happens in life. We can't avoid real life. This ain't the internet. >> Okay. >> I mean, I think everybody here

Alyssa (Harvard)universally agrees that it is wrong and unfair to randomly shoot a human being that you disagree with and that that is a terrible thing that should not be

Alyssa (Harvard)done. I'm I'm pretty sure everybody agrees on a baseline at at that concept. I don't think anybody is celebrating or saying that it

SPEAKER_03is justified or okay. Okay, I have a question. Never mind. I have to wait till she gets back.

SPEAKER_03>> Okay. Um, so I have a question for the whole panel. What's your relationship status? If you're single, how long have you been single? And what's the longest relationship you've been in starting with you?

Summer>> I'm single. Um, what was it? When when did we break up? >> Um, yeah. When did you break up? >> Okay. I'm single. I've been single for 2 years. My longest relationship is 9 years.

Summer>> Okay. And how did that end? >> Like amicably. We were together when we were really young. So we just grew up different people. >> Mutual. >> Yeah, it was mutual. Yeah. >> Okay. Okay. And then you said you've been single for 2 years. Has anyone been in the picture in the past 2 years?

Summer>> I've had like little something somethings, but >> nothing exclusive. >> No, I don't. I kind of because I was I was in a relationship like my whole life. Like my whole adolescence. I've kind of wanting to just be single, be me.

Summer>> So, you just been having like situationships and such. Okay. >> Yeah, just having a good time. >> Okay. >> Not even to be fair. >> Just I don't sleep around. So, >> okay. >> Um I'll go back to you. So, the question was

SPEAKER_03>> relationship status. If you're single, how long have you been single? And what is your longest relationship? Oh. Um, uh, single. Um, longest relationship

SPEAKER_03like I don't know. Sort of undefined. I guess it's hard to say. >> How long have you been single? >> Oh. Um, I would say probably a year. >> So, were you like on and off with the last person?

SPEAKER_03>> Sure. Yeah. >> Was that your longest relationship? Longest undefined relationship. Okay. Was it like a situationship or >> probably >> just like no labels or anything? But like did you say like I love you?

SPEAKER_03>> Mm-m. >> No. How long was it on and off? >> Few months. >> Oh, okay. Like less than six? >> Yeah. >> Oh, okay. So, not that long. >> No. >> Okay. >> I'm not a huge dater.

Britney>> Got it. Okay. What about you? >> I am freshly single, probably about like a month or so. Um, my longest relationship was six years. And I'm sorry, what was the other part

SPEAKER_03of the three tier question? >> Relationship status. Um, if you're single, how long have you been single? And what's your longest relationship? >> Oh, yeah. So, there you go. My longest relationship was 6 years. And I'm single and I've been single for like about a month. Just >> was that the one that ended a month ago?

Britney>> No. >> Okay. What was the one that ended a month ago? Um, so we were friends, we've been friends for like almost 6 years and

Britneythen we started dating probably back in January and then that's when um I stepped away from everything and cuz I'm

Britneyregardless of the work that we were discussing earlier, I don't believe that while in a relationship that those kinds of things should go on.

BritneySo I had stepped away from everything and was really trying to have a traditional relationship and um there

Britneywas a lot of infidelity, lies, um dishonesty and it just unfortunately ended very ugly. So >> you cheated on him? >> No. No. Just kidding. Oh my god.

Britney>> Dunum dum. >> No. >> So how did you find out he cheated on you? >> Um I was shooting his content while he was in the studio. So, >> oh, I was shooting his content um you know, just getting like BTS of um his

Britneystudio stuff and these messages just keep popping up, these messages and I'm never one to go through anybody's phone. If I feel like I have to do that, I'm done. I'm out. I'm gone. This isn't this isn't where I need to be. Um and all

Britneythese messages just kept popping up and I pretty much saw enough and there was just levels to it and um then yeah. So, >> and how long did you say that

Britneyrelationship was? >> About eight months, but unfortunately we were friends, so for much longer. >> Okay. Um, what about the You said 6 years. >> Yes. >> And when did that end? >> Back in 2020.

Jenny (UK)>> And how did it end? >> Um, I think we were just both in very different >> moved on. We don't need extraneous details. >> Uh, yeah. >> I'm single. I've been single for four

Jenny (UK)years. And my longest relationship was 4 years. >> Okay. And how long have you been single again? Sorry. Four years. >> Okay. >> Um so was that 4 years ago? The four

Jenny (UK)year relationship. And how did that end? >> Um he was very abusive towards me. So um the police got involved. I had to move. It was didn't end very well. But that's why I've been healing from that. I've

Jenny (UK)gone to therapy. Just working on myself. >> Okay. And in the past four years, have any other guys been in the picture? >> Not really. No. I'm I like just sitting at home with my cats. I'm not a >> I'm not really a dater.

Jenny (UK)>> No hookups or anything? >> No, not really. Other than work, I don't I haven't slept with anyone off camera in four years. >> Okay. So, like for only fans and such. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that's a bit I class that as different.

Jenny (UK)>> Okay. >> Cuz I don't have emotional connection to these guys. So, >> Okay. And how many would you say you've seen? >> Not many. I don't do many collabs. now. >> Oh, okay. Okay. What about you?

Madam Houston>> I've always been single, but I'm always ready to mingle. >> Have you had the longest relationship? >> I never been in one. >> Oh, sorry. Um, like situationship? >> Situations?

Madam HoustonI'll probably have set a standard for about 6 months and that person just didn't rise to it. So, maybe about 6 months is the longest. >> When was your last, I guess, situationship? Um,

Madam Houstonthat was back when I was studying in school. As of lately, I've just been trying to work. So, I would say like last year. >> Okay. And was it mutual or did someone end it? >> No, it was nothing to end. It was just >> You just like stopped talking, grew

Alyssa (Harvard)apart. >> It was just fun. >> Okay. Okay. What about you? >> Um, I have a long-term monogous uh partner. Um because of his job, we

Alyssa (Harvard)keep our relationship very private. Um which is the exact opposite of my job, which is, you know, very public facing. So, uh we've been together for several years. >> For how many years did you say? >> Several. >> Oh, several. Okay.

SPEAKER_03>> So, about three. >> And that's your longest? >> Yes. >> Okay. Okay. Have you had any relationships before? >> I did. I had a few other long-term boyfriends that were one or two years.

Sarah (Baptist)>> Okay. Okay. What about you? Um, I'm single. Longest relationship I've been in was two and a half years. And I'm waiting on the Lord for my godly

SPEAKER_03dangerous gentleman. >> Nice. How long have you been single? >> Uh, three years. And three years ago, was that the two and a half year relationship that ended?

Sarah (Baptist)>> Yes, ma'am. >> And how did it end? Was it mutual or >> No. Um, well, he was interested in me at first and I wasn't. And then when it flip-flopped, um, he told me that he

Sarah (Baptist)never wants to get married to anybody at all. And then lo and behold, he's married now. But I dodged a bullet on that one. Thank to thanks to the Lord.

Sarah (Baptist)>> Was he also religious? >> Yes. Um, but I had some issues with some of the things he believed, but I kind of looked over them um because of other things. and I he's never had a

Sarah (Baptist)girlfriend or anything like that before, so I didn't think he really knew how to have one. So, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and the grace and um you know,

Sarah (Baptist)I still care about him um but not in that way anymore. Um but yeah, I'm I'm thankful that I do have a future to look

Sarah (Baptist)forward to. >> Yeah. What beliefs did you disagree with about him? He said that he wanted to be like the angels in heaven um because they don't

Sarah (Baptist)marry or aren't given in marriage. So he wanted to be like that. Um but he also had a resolution that he said um to never get married. But I was the one who

Sarah (Baptist)shook that conviction of his. So, it definitely hit me for a sideswipe when I ended up loving him and he just he told me that

Sarah (Baptist)he only wanted to talk to me because I brought him closest to the Lord. Um, so yeah, it it was pretty selfish of him uh

Sarah (Baptist)to use me like that. I do forgive him, but um I hope that no one ever has to go through what I went through with that. >> Sound like he just wanted to get into that [ __ ]

Sarah (Baptist)No, no, he actually he the reason why I liked him was because he was a good boy. He was righteous and he loved the Lord. Um I would not have been interested in

Sarah (Baptist)him otherwise. Um I'm very strict about who I um date. Um I've only dated twice since I've come to Christ. >> That's good. >> And I I like good boy. I like good old

Madam Houstonboys. They're the best. >> Yeah. I think she said that she's a virgin. >> Yeah. Oh, just because she's a virgin doesn't mean nobody trying to [ __ ] her. >> I'm not saying that. I'm just saying

Sarah (Baptist)that um Yeah, she said it was religious reasons that he was using her. Not explicitly. >> Yeah, I'm saying >> that's really degrading. You're degra That's degrading.

Sarah (Baptist)>> Natural. You're degrading me. That's making me into a sexual object. >> Yeah. Well, we are. We're women. >> I'm not a sexual object. Whatever you call yourself, that's what you can be.

Sarah (Baptist)That's the best part about America. You are what you want to be. >> Do you talk like that to everybody? >> I talk like this. Yes. I'm the same person with >> that everybody that people just want to f me. That is that okay to say to somebody. >> I think it's the truth.

Chloe Roma>> No, that's not okay. You don't even know me. Why would you say something? >> I don't know you, but I'm not going to lie to you. >> Okay. Well, spare me the >> keep me pure and don't say anything like that. >> I'll lie to you. >> What you have to understand is it's not

Chloe Romapersonal to you. She has an ideology of how men are and she's projecting that on to you. It has nothing to do with the truth. >> Okay. Um, next. >> No, no, I meant that in a good way to you. >> No, I don't stupid like some people

SPEAKER_11think that I am. >> I'm uh >> In fact, I find that as an advantage sometimes. >> It is. Definitely is. >> I don't think nobody's stupid. >> Anyways, moving on. I am engaged.

SPEAKER_03>> So, that's fun. When did you get engaged? Uh, I got engaged last year, February 21st. >> Oh, very pretty. Hey, very cute. Yeah. >> Congratulations. >> Okay. And how long have you been with him? >> Almost two years. >> Okay. And this is your longest

Chloe Romarelationship? >> No, my longest is three and a half years. >> Oh, how did that end? >> Uh, we were like teenagers and just kind of outgrew each other. It's a long story, but it was amicable. It was good. >> Mutual.

SPEAKER_03>> Yep. >> Okay. Got it. And then um so that you said the other one was two years or three years. >> My current one. >> The No, the previous one. >> Who? I did it before that. >> Yeah. I don't know. Oh, yeah. That was

Chloe Romathree and a half years. Yeah. >> Oh, well, who was who was in between that? >> Oh, I've only had like I think two I've only dated a total of five people. So, and all of them have been longterm. So, I'm not >> Okay. >> 100% sure to be honest with you. I think it was like a year and a half. The one before that.

Chloe Roma>> Okay. >> But he passed away. So, >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> RIP. >> Oh my gosh. That's actually really sad. >> I know. Sorry to darken it up. No, it's fine. It's fine. >> Well, you're engaged. I'm very happy for you. Thank you.

Chloe Roma>> When's the wedding? >> Uh, we're just still saving for him. I don't know. Two years from now. 20 20 uh what? 7 I think. Two years from now. 28. 2028 we'll get married.

SPEAKER_03>> Okay. Nice. Nice. And I'm going to ask different questions. Um Brian, should I just do the

Brian Atlasquestionnaire? >> I'm coming back. >> All right. All right. We're going to jump into uh

Brian Atlasquestionnaire at the questionnaire here. Uh let's see. Going around the table. Actually, you know what? No, let's do Sorry, I had to step away for a moment.

Brian AtlasWe have a chat coming through from if it'll load. Wait, did I do this one already? Sorry if I didn't.

SPEAKER_00>> Barrier Wisdom donated $200 for chair five. Free speech matters, but if we stop caring about right and wrong, the streets pay the price. No morals

SPEAKER_00means more bodies, more chaos. That's not freedom, that's decay. >> Damn. >> Yo, Barry, thank you for the uh thank you for the uh $200 TTS. Sorry for the

Brian Atlasdelay on that. If you want because of the delay, if you want to send in uh our minimum threshold is 10. I'll treat it as a TTS. Basically, I'll just read it for 10 just because of the delay there. Sorry about that, man. I had to step

Brian Atlasaway there for a moment. Okay, so the question is we have from our friend Stifler after a very long time away. Ask everyone to rate their own looks on a

Brian Atlasscale of 1 to 10. You can't pick seven. We're going to Who do I start with? We're going to start with you. Go ahead. >> Of course. I consider myself a nine. >> Nine. Okay. Then we're going to come

Violetover here. Go around. >> Oh. Um I mean it depends how I feel. It changes all the time. Sometimes I feel like a six and sometimes I feel like a 10. It just depends how I'm feeling. >> Okay. Um >> I don't think I can be objective about

Violetit because it's hard to have an objective point of view of what you look like. >> What's your subjective point of view? >> I just said, >> oh, >> depends on how I feel. >> How do you feel right now? >> Right now? Well, I just got pulled off

Violetthe street, so >> I would say I would say I feel >> you look beautiful. >> Thank you so much. >> Yeah, you do. Since I can't say seven, maybe an eight. >> Okay. All right. Wait, can you do me a

Brian Atlasfavor? Can you move that glass to your other side there? Um, hold on. I need to go.

Brian Atlas>> Does it look crazy on camera? >> No, it's good. Uh, anyways, um, what do you rate yourself on a scale of 1 to 10? Um, I don't know. I think maybe like six.5.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. What about you? >> Today is definitely a six. >> Today's a six. All right. What about you? >> I say nine cuz confidence is key. >> Nine cuz Okay. Uh, you said nine. What about you? >> This is looks alone.

Chloe Roma>> Yeah, just looks. >> I would say a six. >> Okay. What about you? >> Five because of my weight. >> All right, Chloe. What about you? I actually usually say seven, so I'm gonna say eight. I'm feeling good today.

Brian Atlas>> All right, there you go. I give myself a five. Uh we do have two remarkably attractive women though at the table. We have a nine and a nine. You and you. Uh

Brian Atlasso what I'd like to do typically when we have model quality women here at the table, I'd like to ask uh could you tell me like a woman who's a celebrity who

Jenny (UK)you think is a nine? I think every woman is a 10 to be honest. >> I love women. No, I love women. >> You said you were a nine though.

Brian Atlas>> So, just be clear. All other women are tens, but you're down here at nine. >> Yeah, because I love women. I think women are superior. >> Wait, hold on. >> I think every woman on this table is a 10.

Brian Atlas>> Women are superior. Let's dive into that. Are you talking because the conversation is about looks. Are you talking about looks? >> No, not in general. Okay. So, >> I think women are like superheroes. They're amazing.

Brian Atlas>> I'm sorry if you don't have that view, but I just think women are >> How just how are women superheroes? Like all women are superheroes >> just by virtue of >> Yeah. They've got so much strength. >> Physical strength. >> No.

Brian Atlas>> What kind of strength? >> Mental strength. They carry a baby for 9 months. >> You give birth to the baby. You're a parent. You work >> women. >> Education. They do it all. Well, so not all women though want to have children.

Brian AtlasMost I think the majority of women here don't have children. >> So because the women who haven't >> had children here, are they not superheroes yet? >> No, I still think they're great. >> But that was your justification for women being superheroes.

Jenny (UK)>> Yeah, but they can they can carry children for 9 months. >> I suppose. >> Yeah, but so could a cow. >> What? >> Um Okay. >> I don't want to be classed as a 10 in me. That's fine. I'm trying Well, you

Jenny (UK)said nine, though. No, I'm trying to compliment everyone, but she's being a bit >> funny about it. So, >> me? >> Yeah. >> I didn't say anything. I just said >> You said a cat can carry a >> You did say something under your breath.

Chloe Roma>> You can speak. You can speak up. >> Yeah, I I will. Um, so giving birth does not automatically make you a grace to God. That's >> I don't believe in God. So, it doesn't affect me. >> It's Chloe, you're an atheist or agnostic.

Brian Atlas>> Me? >> Are you a What? >> I'm a Coptic Orthodox Christian. >> Oh, >> no. What? >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. >> No, but >> I'm wearing a cross right now, Brian. >> Well, the point I was trying to make is sometimes people use terms and it like,

Brian Atlas"Thank God." It's not like, "Okay, well, I'm not a We're just It's common language." >> We don't really say that in the UK. >> Yeah. >> You say, "Oh my word."

Jenny (UK)>> Uh, women are superior. Let's dive in, though. Women are superior. What do you mean by that? >> I just think that they're great. >> Okay. Well, >> every woman that I know is the strongest

Brian Atlaswoman that I've ever met. >> Every How could that pot? Hold on. Every woman you've met is the strongest woman you've ever met. >> Yeah. >> So, they're all just all equally strong. >> Yep.

Jenny (UK)>> I think women are strong. I mean, if you don't agree, then you think women are below you. Then that's your issue, not me. >> I don't think that's what he's saying. >> No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm questioning your position.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, that's fine. So, >> I can appreciate women >> and I think these are different. >> Yeah, but hold on. I I think women are greatify why I think women are amazing. I

Brian Atlas>> Well, okay, but hold on. You're you're kind of smuggling in a different Yeah, you are. You're smuggling in something very different from what you originally said. You originally said women are superior. So, I think women are great. I think women are amazing, but I'm not

Brian Atlasprepared to say women are superior. >> I wouldn't make that claim in either direction. I think although I would say that women are better at some things, men are better at some things, >> but I don't think either or is superior.

Brian AtlasThat's quite strong language. Explain to me the superior component. >> I just did. You can't carry me. >> No, no, no. So, hold on. You said women are amazing. >> Yeah, >> sure. I There's Okay, no contest. Not

Brian Atlascontesting. Why would Because women amazing. Why would that translate to women superior? >> I don't really need to justify why I think women are superior. I just do. That's just the way that I feel.

Brian Atlas>> You kind of when you make a claim, >> it's not really my opinion, >> right? Okay. >> You have a different opinion. That's fine. >> Even an opinion can be backed up with justification. >> Yeah, but I don't feel like I need to justify myself.

Brian Atlas>> You came onto a [ __ ] podcast, lady. What the [ __ ] >> If a man was sitting here, >> I appreciate you don't swear at me. I haven't swore at you. Please don't swear at me. >> I would appreciate you not wasting time and trolling and just engaging in good faith.

Brian Atlas>> You've agreed to come. Look, you've agreed to come on the podcast and have various discussions. You guys asked reached out what, two, three months ago. You you have some familiar familiarity with the program.

Brian Atlas>> If you just say, "Well, I I'm just going to throw out an opinion, but I don't feel I'm not going to justify the >> I actually haven't watched the podcast." >> Okay, great. Congrats. You're now on the podcast. But if you're going to say

Brian Atlassomething and you're engaged in a discussion based podcast, >> I'm having a discussion with you, but I agree. >> Right. So when I ask you for your justification, >> yeah, >> I'm not asking you to reveal your social

Brian Atlassecurity number. I'm asking why do you think the thing that you think? That's fair game on a discussion podcast. >> I just think like that. I don't I never thought that I would need to justify why I think. >> If a man were to sit up here and be

Chloe Romalike, "Men are superior to women." Would you not want to like care what people have different opinions? That's fine to me. >> Can I ask something? Because I'm I'm just a little confused. I'm trying to follow >> Yeah.

Alyssa (Harvard)I can completely recognize the difficulty of women giving birth and how magical that is. Um, maybe I blanked out for a little bit. I was just a little confused

Alyssa (Harvard)how that pertained to your initial all women are tense. If we're looking just at physical >> I just think that all women are beautiful. I never >> Oh, okay. Sorry. I was I was like, "Oh my gosh, I think I missed something."

Brian Atlas>> No, no. I just look at every woman and think that they are beautiful. I never I'm never one to drag on people's looks. >> Are are all men tens? >> I mean, it depends. >> Would Hold on. Why were you so confident in saying all women are tens? Why can't you say

Brian Atlas>> I think it's just the relationship that I've had with men. >> I have a better relationship with women than men, and that's why my opinion can be tainted. >> Uh, Kaibaka, thank you for the gifted 20 subs. It's not letting me pull it up,

Brian Atlasbut thank you, Kaibaka PPC in the chat. Thank you. Uh, okay. All women are tens. Women are superior. Um well, I guess I'll go back to my qu um can you tell me

Brian Atlasa woman who you think is a nine or a 10? >> That's what we was. >> Yeah. >> Um Ariana Grande. >> Are you on She's a nine or a 10? >> She's a 10. >> And clarification, are you a nine or are you a 10?

Jenny (UK)>> I'm a nine. >> But you said all women are tens or something or >> No. >> Oh, okay. Well, if you're if all women are tens, you're a woman. >> All women in my eyes are tens. So,

Violeteveryone, not my I think it lends itself to my point about how it's hard to make an objective opinion about yourself cuz I think your view of yourself is warped >> more than your view of other people. >> Yep.

Madam Houston>> We all ugly to somebody. Not me, but I mean, you know, everybody ugly to somebody and every is good-look somebody. >> Um, tell me a woman who you think is a

Madam Houstonnine or a 10. Um, Nia Long, Lisa Ray McCoy, Sai Lean. Uh, >> who the [ __ ] is that guy? >> I don't know. I don't know anybody. The people you just named. >> Well, you can pull them up. They're all

Madam Houstonbeautiful women. >> Okay, Nick, pull up one, I guess. What was the >> Nia Long? >> Which one's the most beautiful? Nia. >> Uh, I like how Lisa Ray McCoy looks. >> What's her name? >> Lisa Ray McCoy. >> Lisa Ray McCoy.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. >> Let's see some photos. Photos. We have very beautiful women here at the table, guys. Every >> Oh, she is beautiful. >> Um,

Madam Houston>> beautiful. >> Like young her or current. >> She's aging gracefully in my opinion. She is a little bit older. Maybe 60s I would say.

Madam Houston>> Yeah, you got to look up her players club her players club pictures. So, if you going to ask me a question, see the question throughout. Don't try to [ __ ] flip. >> Who's a woman who's a 10 for you?

Jenny (UK)>> For me? Yeah. >> Taylor Swift. >> Taylor Swift is is a >> I don't know how you Americans think of her. >> We like her.

Brian Atlas>> We love her in the UK. >> Well, you like her music or cuz we're talking about looks. >> Yeah, she's beautiful inside and out. >> Okay. Um, hold it up. Just I mean, people probably know what Taylor Swift looks like, I

Brian Atlasguess, but >> All right. There you go. You got Taylor Swift. So, um you're just you're nine, she's a 10, >> you're one point below her in >> Yeah. >> in in um

Brian Atlasin looks. >> Yep. >> You kind of disagree. That's fine. >> Okay. All right. Okay. All right. Um

Brian AtlasI guess as it relates to this uh subjectivity. So obviously beauty is uh it's it is subjective but it's not

Brian Atlasstrictly subjective. There are I believe there are some objective components to beauty. >> Yes. >> Okay. I guess. All right. Nobody has any

Brian Atlaspush back on that? No, Brian. It's strictly It's strictly subjective. >> Beauty strip strictly subjective. We have Pelagic here. He just sent three clown emojis. Nick, pull it up in the supers.

Brian Atlas>> There it is. Pelagic. Three clown emojis. Okay. Well, >> I mean, he disagrees. >> That's fine. >> Uh, I guess how about a guy? Can you tell me a guy who you think is a nine?

Brian Atlas>> Henry Caval. >> Henry Caval's a nine. >> Yep. Nick, uh, Google a photo of Henry Caval, please. And then we'll go to the Discord

Brian Atlaslooks tab afterwards if you want to also work on that. >> Uh, okay. Henry Caval. So, do you um pull up uh Henry C the mustache one there from Men's Health.

Brian Atlas>> He's so >> at the top top middle. Top middle. Men's Health. Just click. All right. Henry Caval. Okay, there he is. Uh, just curious, show of hands, who

Felicityhere finds Henry Caval attractive? Is he a good-looking guy? All right. >> I mean, he's not ugly. >> No, we're looking at this. I mean, people people have different types,

Brian Atlas>> you know. Look, I think typically people tend to pair up in their same range. You're nine. You say Henry Cavl's nine. >> Yeah.

Jenny (UK)>> I believe he's single currently. >> No, I think he has a baby and a wife. Okay. Hypothetically, I want to think he's single. Do you think uh you could >> I'm not really interested in dating. So, no. >> If he were

Brian Atlas>> If you were >> Yeah. >> Wait, hold on. Just to be clear, if Henry Caval slides into your DMs tonight, you're going to be like, "You know what, Henry? >> Not really." Uh >> not really feel timing's not right. You

Brian Atlasknow, >> I mean, it would depend on the situation cuz he has got a baby and a wife. So >> that's going to stop you from dating Henry [ __ ] Cavville. >> Yeah, >> the Well, okay. If he's single, I don't

Jenny (UK)know if the baby should stop you. >> I think it depends on the relationship he has with his baby mom. I don't want to step on anything like that. >> So, >> is he married? >> I think so. >> I don't know the details. If he's married, obviously, but in this

Jenny (UK)hypothetical scenario world, >> I mean, it would never happen because it's hypothetical. >> What would never happen? Well, I'd never be in the same room as Henry Cavl.

Brian Atlas>> Very true. Um, >> but so you uh just on the looks front though. >> Mhm.

Jenny (UK)>> You and Henry Caval. >> I mean, he's a man, so it's a bit different because they have different features. >> That that that Yeah, that's that is true. Men and women do have different features,

Brian Atlas>> but >> it's okay to disagree, but it's fine. >> But >> yeah, >> like >> I I have confidence in >> Are you in his here? Are you in his league? Are you in Henry Cavl's league? >> No, because he's a man. Put a woman next to me.

Brian Atlas>> Wait, what? >> Put on me. >> You realize what you're talking about. >> Are you Are you bisexual? >> No. >> You're heterosexual? Yes. >> You're straight? >> Yeah. >> So your league wouldn't >> You're wanting me to date Henry C. your

Chloe Romaleague would comprise of men. >> What? >> Can we just like answer questions directly and not be like disingenuous and like >> Yeah. Thank Thank you, Chloe. I No, she's she's true. It's like just engage.

Brian AtlasAlso, don't complain if the show goes late because like you guys can't just give me like just give me answer. Just give me the answer. >> Yes, >> there's your answer. Yes. >> I want to be here. I want to be up your ass too.

Brian Atlas>> Yes. Yes, you're in there. >> I'm not going to because I'm fat and you're not. >> And that's what the issue is. >> That's what the issue is. >> Yes, you're in Henry Cavl's league. >> Yep. Cheers.

Brian AtlasAre you going to ask me? >> I'm going to ask you. Hold on. The asteroid. I sent the asteroid. Hold on. >> Dude, that actually [ __ ] scared me. How do you >> Oh, how about this? Check this [ __ ] out, Chloe. I sent the [ __ ] missiles. I'm

Chloe Romablowing up. >> The way it angled in, it was perfect. I know. Right through the window. >> It would have seared the side of your face first. >> What in the America's

Brian Atlas>> I would have used you as a human shield. Um, so, okay. Who's a guy who you think is a nine? >> Amoris Chestnut. >> Morris. All right, Google. I don't know who these people are.

Madam Houston>> Who the [ __ ] is that? >> Morris. Morris. >> He's a popular actor. You don't know. >> There's a guy from the 1930s. Morris. >> No. Like the 90s and early 2000s. You got to keep up with more black people, bro. >> Oh [ __ ] Okay. Handsome dude.

Brian Atlas>> Ain't he handsome? >> All right. There you go. >> He had his [ __ ] So, uh, do you your league? >> Yeah.

Brian Atlas>> Have you slid into his DMs? >> I would. I should. Huh? >> Yeah. Do it right now. Actually, go get No, I'm just kidding. >> I don't got my phone. >> Um, all right. That's cool. All right. Um, >> you got to slide into his

Brian Atlas>> I'll just say this. Why can't Yeah, sure. I'll I'll DM him. Hey, do you want to be on the show? And >> you got to you got to bring me back. >> Hey, I'm going to get Sylvester Stallone on the show because, you know, whatever. He watches I guess he watched the clip I

Brian Atlasshould say. Uh I guess look my my uh criticism here would be why don't or why can't average women

Alyssa (Harvard)just say they're average cuz women are vain. You know we are all about our looks. So I don't think a woman wants to accept if she's ugly or not. Well, I think what the problem is

Alyssa (Harvard)culturally, >> you're right. I guess >> I I think what has happened like within the last five years is that if you look in the early 2000s, we as a society were so hard on women for how they looked.

Alyssa (Harvard)Like, do you remember that picture of Jessica Simpson and everyone called her like obese for being a size six? And he had like some of these runway shows, you know, where they would just degrade

Alyssa (Harvard)these girls for, you know, maybe being 120 pounds. And then I think what happened is combined with other different social trends is that like a lot of things happening in America, the pendulum swung so far in the other

Alyssa (Harvard)direction >> because there was all this negativity that was sort of unwarranted. >> Hold on. Wait. Beauty standards for women, yes, have

Brian Atlasbeen always difficult. But I would say they're way worse now in 2025 than they were back then. And my argument simply would be if you look at the proliferation of plastic surgery, it's

Brian Atlasway more the case that women are getting all these different they're getting fake breasts, they're getting lipo, they're getting BBL, they're getting a [ __ ] ton of work done on their face. >> Yes. Okay. there was an expectation that

Brian Atlaswomen be a certain dress size or be thin or skinny or whatever or whatever it is back then. Well, I say it's still the case now, although there's perhaps more there's different body types that are

Brian Atlasdeemed as attractive like the thick, curvy, whatever. But there's still women who don't perfectly fall into any of these categories still today. And then with the rampant uh proliferation of

Brian Atlasplastic surgery, which I think makes things way more way further away from achievability. If back then it was just like, okay, just be skinny. But back then, 20 years ago, there wasn't like a

Brian Atlasmassive expectation that women be blasted with Botox, have lip filler, have the bal fat removal, have lipo belly, have fake tits. Like it would be

Brian Atlasmaybe women like uh you'd see one out of 10 women who had pro no one out of hundred women who had fake titties back then and that was it. They got fake titties. That was it. You didn't see the

Brian Atlasfake the crazy lips. You didn't see any of the [ __ ] Now it's way now they're get these surgeries. A lot of them are dangerous. So I'd say the beauty standards are worse today than they were 20 years ago. >> Well, if more men called it ugly then

Alyssa (Harvard)maybe women would stop doing it. >> Okay. I I should I say that all that that [ __ ] looks terrible. >> Thank you for saying that. >> Well, >> don't get plastic surgery. >> I I think the problem is is and maybe I'm biased because I did I grew up in

Alyssa (Harvard)the entertainment industry. I competed in pageantss. Those sorts of things have always existed and there's always been a lot of people. There's a lot of people that have plastic surgery. But the accessibility to it and sort of the

Alyssa (Harvard)transparency we're seeing more than ever before, people, regular people who are not in entertainment are saying, "Oh, this is something that I can do. this is something I can go pursue. So you see

Alyssa (Harvard)more I guess we can call them lay people pursuing these beauty treatments or surgeries um because I think social

Alyssa (Harvard)media while it has made the standard higher it's also kind of taken away the mystique of it. Maybe you wouldn't know

Alyssa (Harvard)that, you know, 10, 15, 20 years ago that the number of celebrities that have plastic surgery or have work done, like people thought they actually just looked

Alyssa (Harvard)like that. Um, but now it still exists, but it's more rampid because it's not gatekept to the same extent. >> And in my opinion, I think whether women want to admit it or not, they love male

Madam Houstonattention. So they wouldn't do it if it wasn't for the male attention that they get by doing it. So if more men said it was ugly, I'm pretty sure women will remove those lip fillers, remove those thick asses, and be themselves.

Chloe Roma>> That's not true. Men have opinions on women all the time, and we say no uterus, no opinion. Like what are you talking about? Women aren't women aren't looking at men and being like, well, men like men have been saying forever that

Chloe Romathey find like natural, attractive, and women have gone like the other way. So I just don't think >> correct. And that's a woman's problem by doing something that a man doesn't like. piggy back though to piggyback off of what you just said

Sarah (Baptist)>> of course >> um with women like God created us to be beautiful. There's a reason why we're the fair sex and um it has been natural

Sarah (Baptist)throughout all the ages. Um but in this sadly in this very crooked generation that we live in um the enemy of their souls are just laughing. He's laughing

Sarah (Baptist)at you. The way that women believe lies these days is it there's no even resistance anymore. It's like, "Oh, this celebrity did it. Okay, I'll do it, too." Like, it's just it's ridiculous. >> I don't get where that conversation just went. Let's move on.

Alyssa (Harvard)>> What the hell are you talking about? >> To play devil's advocate with you, though. I think a lot of women pursue these things not necessarily for the male gays. I think a lot of

Alyssa (Harvard)people do it for their own either self-esteem or because they want to pursue it. Because you're right, there are a lot of men that are straight up saying, "I don't like this look. I don't

Alyssa (Harvard)like the lip filler. I don't like that." But women are pursuing it anyway. >> And I I think there are there are a lot of women because it makes them feel good. It it is how they want to be

Brian Atlaspresented or or express themselves. That's just my opinion. >> Well, yeah. Definitely some of these procedures are not strictly for the male gays. Like I'm trying to see if I posted something in the Discord, but

Brian Atlas>> if Brian doesn't like lip fillers or ass injections, I sure ain't getting it. >> Oh, thank thank you. >> You're welcome. >> W um I mean me personally when it comes to plastic surgery, I'd prefer and you know people will say, "Well, you'd still

Brian Atlaslike what these surgeries are trying to replicate." But I I would say this and I've said it a bunch of times on the show. Almost any plastic surgery procedure you could listen to me. I'd

Brian Atlasprefer the person as they were prior to the procedure. So it's like perfect fake breasts. I'd prefer a girl who has like nothing or an A cup over perfect fake breasts. I prefer a girl

Brian Atlaswith no butt over a girl with a BBL. I'd prefer a girl with a little belly fat over the lipo belly. I think it looks weird. I'd prefer. Um, >> you also have to give attention to that though because you're highlighting women with BBLs and fake titties, but you're

Chloe Romanot highlighting the beautiful women that don't have any of that. >> So, you can do that. Wait, what do you mean? Just do it. You can do that instead. >> You interrupted him to tell him to do something that he's already >> I'll find you a bunch of women with

Brian Atlassmall titties. I'll be like, "She's beautiful. Don't get some." >> But you didn't start with that, though. You're finishing with it, but you didn't start with that. >> I'm just saying. >> She's just trying really hard to have a point. I don't know why. Like, what's

Madam Houstonhard to follow here? >> Oh, I had a point. I proved it. I mean, it's a conversation, is it not? Holy. [ __ ] >> It's a conversation. >> Brain cells. >> Brain cells. >> Losing brain cells.

Madam Houston>> I'm so sorry. >> Um, >> somebody's bitter. >> Me. >> Oh, I said somebody. If you >> got to label yourself as bitter, if the shoe fits, then wear it.

Chloe Roma>> Okay. Okay. No, I think that you're actually just like really rude and you've come to this table with some sort of like stank attitude. You're really rude and >> think I think I'm think you're >> Okay. Okay. I'm not trying to be I'm just trying to have a good conversation.

Madam Houston>> No, I think you're very abrasive and disrespectful and I'm the wrong person. >> I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I respect everybody's opinions. That's all part of conversation. >> I hope so. Cuz I'm the wrong one, you know. So, >> I think I got Are you going to let her

Chloe Romacall you pooky and get away with it? >> I didn't even hear that. She called you pooky. >> I always say I don't hear something when I don't want to address it or when I'm too scared to. >> Look, if you think that I'm like intimidated by you or that anybody is

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