HEATED Debate With Harvard Grad! HER League = Henry Cavill?! Chloe Roma Army! | Dating Talk #261

Date: 2025-09-22

Duration: 8h 09m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAlyssa (Harvard)>

MMadam Houston >

SSarah (Baptist)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Chloe Roma(guest)

SPEAKER_04Jenny (UK)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Summer(guest)

SPEAKER_07Alyssa (Harvard)(guest)

SPEAKER_08Britney(guest)

SPEAKER_09Violet(guest)

SPEAKER_10Madam Houston(guest)

SPEAKER_13Felicity(guest)

SPEAKER_14Sarah (Baptist)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduce themselves including Alyssa playing piano

ControversyBrian challenges Summer: Christian + OnlyFans = vegetarian eating hamburger

Key MomentHarvard verification quiz: Alyssa identifies Annenberg dining hall, Drew Faust as president

QuoteMadam Houston: Kirk died 'doing what he loved, badass way to go out'

ControversyHeated clash between Chloe Roma and Madam Houston

Key MomentBrian negotiates Britney from $500K to $90K in Idaho

QuoteSummer's KFC date: man defecated, took vegan to KFC, ate her ass, stole her panties

ControversySarah vs Brian: Ephesians 5:22 submission debate. Sarah accuses Brian of twisting scripture like Satan.

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

All guests including Harvard grad Alyssa who played piano live.

Christianity vs OnlyFans

Summer claims God is happy she makes men happy. Sarah dying inside.

Charlie Kirk Memorial

Panel discusses assassination and public response.

Relationship Status Round

Summer single 2 years. Violet never had boyfriend. Britney single 1 month.

Feminism Debate

Brian: feminism is women's advocacy not equality. Jenny: all women are 10s.

Body Count Round

Summer 8. Britney personal <10/work 100+. Jenny ~30s. Chloe 11.

Bow/Submission Segment

Brian shows ex bowing video. Sarah vs Brian on Ephesians 5:22.

Transcript

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Brian Atlas>> Yes, they can be. >> Mike's >> Yes, they can. Chloe, >> I see it every day. Yes, they can. >> So, you said, uh, no, they can't. No, they can't. No, they can't. Uh, why is

Violetthat? >> Uh, well, I think that I mean, obviously you can make discriminatory jokes towards any race, but I think that the, you know, the concept of racism holds a lot more weight than towards

Violetpeople of color than it would towards white people. So, I think that racism in the true sense of the word, white people can't experience that because we've been on top forever. Like, >> okay, what do you think? I'll respond after. >> I agree. Like I don't think that like if

Brian Atlassomeone was to call me like a white slur, like I wouldn't be offended by like it wouldn't affect you in the same way as but then by this logic if a black person was offended by like somebody calling them a racial slur.

Brian Atlas>> Yeah. Because >> I would still like from the outside >> but it might offend other black people. >> Sure. But but calling a white person a white slur could offend some white people. >> But I would say way proportionately less. >> I'd be willing to grant that. It would

Summerstill offend some white people. >> Yeah. But I don't think it really has much volume behind the word. >> Right. But >> so if you were to call me like a But if Jenny was to call me cuz she's English, I would be offended.

Chloe Roma>> But I feel like >> Oh, like a antis Scottish slur. >> Yeah, there's a lot of history there. >> Well, you were talking about something earlier. I don't I don't remember

Summerspecifically, but it was something about how they like banned white men from going into a place because >> Yeah, Thailand. They've banned um white men from the UK from going into Thailand because they kept killing the prostitutes in Thailand. So, >> wait, really? >> Yeah.

Summer>> Yeah. >> Wait, there white people aren't allowed in? >> No. >> So, like, see, if you're like a white man going to Thailand alone for a long period of time, there's it's

Chloe Romasubstantially a lot harder now to get in because really because of what happened. >> Yeah. I just think that that's that's a bit of a good example on how% of their economy. I think so.

Chloe Roma>> But I don't think that's racism against men. I think that's based on if you look at like statistics if statistics in America show that like marginalized groups commit nothing to do with color

Brian Atlasbecause if you're white like white men or just white men from going to Thailand >> it's not like they're like you're specifically banned. >> I'm googling it. I can't I can't see

Chloe Romaany. Anyways, whatever. Yeah. So, in Canada, um I think it's um black and indigenous people disproportionately commit more um crimes than like white or South Asian or things

Chloe Romalike that. So, if we were to start like segregating, you know, black or indigenous people based off of crime stats, I just think that would that would be racist. So, I'm not really taking an opinion too much on the Thailand stuff. I'm not educated enough

Chloe Romaon that topic. I'm just saying I think that's a great example of how looking at someone for their skin color and judging them on the actions of others does affect those who didn't do anything. I think that's an interesting point

Violetbecause I but I also think it's very different because that was based like truth is people of color in most countries especially ones that are you know like the United States um are like

Violeta lot of the you know crime stats it's true maybe you know they did commit those crimes but a lot of it is because of the position they would put in historically agree and so and that's just completely different than white people going to a different country and killing prostitutes. You may have a good

Violetpoint there. >> But what I'm confused, why do you think people of color can't be racist? I I don't get that. >> It's not that you can't say something racist. Like you could say, I hate white people, white people this, whatever. But I think that it doesn't hold the same

Alyssa (Harvard)weight as it would towards a black. >> But if you're a black, you know, business owner or landlord and you choose like, I'm not going to hire white people or I'm going to not rent to white people. Like there are are you saying

Violetlike there are not the means or the methods there for black people? >> That's for sure. But I think I I well I guess what I'm saying is that racism in the sense of like >> prejudice isn't the same.

Madam Houston>> I don't think we're talking about systemic racism. I think we're talking like onetoone personal I hate you cuz your skin color. Would you agree the difference there? I just think it's offensive to say that black people

Madam Houstoncannot be racist because we have had y'all honestly y'all wouldn't be able to fight for anything if it wasn't for black people in this country. We were the first movement civil rights movement. So for starters, I don't think that it's fair to say black people can't

Madam Houstonbe racist because we fought for our power and our rights. So saying that black people cannot be racist is saying that we don't have power, which is basically condescending to the civil rights movement.

Madam Houston>> It's not about I also I also get what you're saying. doesn't impact white people the same way that it does somebody like me >> if somebody was to be racist towards me rather than Yeah, I get what you're saying.

Brian Atlas>> Okay, then I then I won't >> But wouldn't it Yeah. saying like isn't it almost baked in racism to say that black people can't do X like they can't be like

Brian Atlas>> I think all you're saying is like it's a little bit problematic. >> I don't know. It could be. Um, and then you also think that uh black people or people of color, whatever, can't be

Jenny (UK)racist. >> I think personally I've never had anyone be racist towards me. >> Um, I think

Jenny (UK)>> But is it possible? >> Yes and no. I'm on like I know you're rolling your eyes, but >> Oh, I was just I was just >> I'm just I'm listening to what everyone else is saying. >> I was I wasn't rolling my eyes.

Jenny (UK)>> Okay. I just watch you then. It's fine. >> No, I I wasn't rolling my eyes. >> No, I'm trying to listen to everyone's points. So, my opinion can change throughout when everyone is speaking. >> Oh, so your opinion has changed or >> No, it's still on the fence. I feel like

Jenny (UK)they can be racist, but it doesn't, as they were saying, it doesn't hold as much >> gravity. Yeah, because we've always been Well, I personally have never >> neither

Brian Atlas>> like been involved in any situations. >> Like somebody calling you a cracker or something isn't going to >> just just for platform just for platform rules. Just don't say that term. >> Yeah. So, sorry. I That's what I'm

Brian Atlassaying. So, I didn't even think that was offensive. That's all I said. >> I I don't find it offensive, but YouTube and Twitch have an issue with >> Fair slurs. Yeah. I I had a weird experience.

Chloe Roma>> I had a weird experience with it once where I was um hired to come help the these guys in Toronto with their podcast and they were all Jamaican, so all black. And I'm sitting there in the

Chloe Romameeting again. They hired me. And this one guy, this young guy is just like [ __ ] rude. He's like rolling his eyes at everything I'm saying, staring at me, shaking my head. And so I stopped the meeting and I was like, "What's like

Chloe Romawhat's your problem with me? Like you guys hired me to be here. why are you being so rude? Um, and he looked me dead in my face and he's like, "My mom taught me uh not to trust or be courteous to white women with tattoos." And I was

Chloe Romalike, "Dude, I would literally never look at you and treat you differently or make an assumption because of your skin color, so why are you doing it to me?" So, I actually have received it. I would agree that it's probably more rare.

Chloe RomaLike, black people 100% any marginalized group. Um, they definitely take on the weight of racism far more. But I I'm just saying it does [ __ ] happen and I experienced it and it was weird.

Summer>> When the UK becomes a Muslim majority country, >> [ __ ] off. >> Do you think that's not going to happen at the I please trust me when I say don't read the news.

Summer>> The UK Scotland is a white country. >> You think they're going to be colonized? >> I think they are. Honestly, >> trust me. There's Have you been lately? >> Have I been? No, I haven't been. No, I

Summerhaven't. The UK is predominantly white. Has always been predominantly white. There's Yeah, there's Muslims. We don't care. You're only seeing like this the

Summernews taking some crazy things. We had it for trans people a month ago. It's not a big deal. Like it isn't they're not pushing an agenda. Especially not in Scotland any >> Hold on. Isn't London Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. London like Wait. Is London the

Brian Atlascapital of >> Yeah. You've literally lost your capital? >> Yeah. You've literally lost the capital. You've literally lost your capital. Hello, >> bro. Have we? Have you been? >> Yes. >> Have you been? >> No, I haven't been.

Brian Atlas>> Where did you get this from? >> Where have you got your There's literally buyers. >> Do you think London is safer? Do you think London is safer today or 30 years ago? >> London has never been safer. >> Is it safer? Was it safer 30 years ago or is it safer today?

Summer>> London has never been >> You mean with all the stabbings and the knife crimes? >> Oh, I I knew this was going to happen. I knew this was going to happen. I mean, they get attacked everywhere. >> This has always been a problem. London has always had knife. Scotland, London, they've always had knife crime. Always.

Summer>> I mean, people say that about New York, too. New York is way safer than people. It's never been anything to do with Muslims. It isn't to do with Muslims now. This is just the agenda that they're pushing because they want something to blame. It was trans people

Brian Atlasa month ago. >> Look, I'm saying demographically, there's a lot of shift going on in Europe. A lot of shift. And essentially, by the way, white people are a minority globally speaking. And

Brian Atlas>> not in the UK. Please trust us. There's barely any black people. >> When I say globally, I'm talking globally. So like white people are a minority globally speaking. And we have,

Brian Atlasyou know, there's there's European countries that for most of human all of human history basically were white. >> Romanians >> basically white. >> Yeah. And I'm telling you, in 30, 40, 50, 60

Brian Atlasyears, >> you look at Amsterdam, you look at the well, in the Netherlands, you look at what's happening in France, you look at what's happening in the UK, you look at Germany,

Brian Atlas>> these are no longer they're they're literally they're going to become white. Y'all are not a minority. But I have to say, white people are are a global

Summerminority. Can we talk about the people that have immigrated from Ireland to New York? Can we talk about the people from London who have immigrated to Australia? Like, why is it a problem?

Brian Atlas>> It's just when it's people of color. >> Wait, hold on. It's just travel that's more necessarily saying it's a problem now. >> No, I I am right. White people are a

Brian Atlasglobal minority. >> But they're not a marginalized community. What is the point of them being a global minority? What do you why are you bringing >> Well, I guess it depends like what your sense of like marginalized is, but if

Brian Atlaslike in your own country for I guess my question would be do you think there's anything wrong with Japan for example not wanting to take in immigrants? Like do you think that's

Brian Atlaswrong if Japanese people want Japan to remain Japanese? >> No, that's their country. They can do what they want. >> That's their country. But so what would be wrong with European countries wanting

Summeryou know their culture to like maintain? >> The majority of us don't want that. Like I'm I'm dead serious. The majority do not want that. If you look at Scotland, there was this what are they called? Like far right Tommy Robinson.

Summer>> Yeah. Tommy Robinson. >> So the Tommy Robinson people came to Scotland, came to Glasgow. They were pushed back by other people. There was like 10 of them that showed up. >> Hundreds pushed them back. Can we can we

Alyssa (Harvard)clarify that we're not advocating for like white supremacy or like xenophobia or anything? >> Let me let me I do have to say though, and this is just from personal experience, uh I

Alyssa (Harvard)first went to Europe when I was 16 years old. I studied abroad in Spain. I go every year, a few times a year for work. Um, I have noticed in the past few

Alyssa (Harvard)years, every time I go with the influx of African migrants, I don't live there, so I can't say I want them or not, but they are coming up to your car. They're you're just trying to walk down the

Alyssa (Harvard)street in Italy, Germany. They try to are trying to sell you things. They're >> You guys want to You guys asked if I've been to London. >> What What did that have to do with anything? Well, what I'm saying is to

Summersay that there has not been an influx of migrants that are changing. >> We're just saying it's not necessarily a problem. >> We're not act like don't see it as a problem where we're from. >> I I have one of my closest friends is a

Alyssa (Harvard)dual citizen. She comes back and forth from England. I have other very good friends that live in the Netherlands. They are saying it is a problem that there isn't been an increase in stabbing because obviously you guys don't have firearms. But where she lives in the HEG um

Alyssa (Harvard)>> where else does she live in England? Do you know? Um, I know that >> you googling the facts. That's >> I don't remember that. I know it's somewhere in the south of the country. >> Oh, okay. Um,

Alyssa (Harvard)>> yeah, the south is a bit more >> stabby than the north. >> Britain's always been stabby. >> But but I I have friends in the Netherlands that are saying the same thing that live in the Hag that um my

Alyssa (Harvard)personal experience last time I went to Naples, Italy, I I was man, I was being followed. I was, you know, because that like walking around by myself and you're like

Summer>> follow what black people >> by migrants. I don't know if they are black or Middle Eastern or >> but you know this has always been a well obviously we're not told but every time

Summerwe go to Italy it's always the same. It's not like this isn't like a problem that has literally just happened. It's not a problem at all. >> I guess it's just but you're just noticing it. >> You're just noticing it now because more people are talking about it on the news.

Brian AtlasLike we've always had migrants like the UK. >> Wait, but you've let in. Hold on. All these European countries have like there's been a total floodgate opening of immigration. Yes, there's been there were immigrants back in the 70s of

Brian Atlascourse, but like there's been massive floodgate opening. It's happening in Canada, the USA. It's happening all over Europe. And I mean, if this was like happening in the reverse, you guys would

Summerit would be called colonialism. No, I don't think it Well, every country is taking over our country. Like >> they're running away from something. They're running away from a war and we're letting them in.

Brian Atlas>> That's not colonial. >> It's not except refugees, I think. >> Yeah. No, most of these people hold on. A lot of these people that are that are immigrating, it's not because of crime or it's not because of war. It's for economic reasons. There's much more

Brian Atlasprosperity. >> Well, that's another thing to run away from is >> I mean, that's still fine, right? Then the situation in those countries just gets worse and worse. There's brain drain on these countries. Of course, the

Brian Atlasmost intelligent intellectual people. They're they would be able they would be best suited to help build up their own country. But if they all leave, you have what's called brain drain. And then what are you going to do? Like the country

Chloe Romajust gets worse and worse. Wouldn't Wouldn't what's wrong with building up their countries? >> Thank you. You're literally describing Canada right now. I don't know what the hell has happened, but like as a liberal, the Liberals have [ __ ] up the country. Like we're we're talking about

Chloe Romabringing people in and giving them like $4,000 a month to live when Canadians can't even pay their own [ __ ] bills or buy groceries. It is so so bad.

Britney>> It's so bad. >> I was just in Edmonton and our neighbor >> Okay. >> Yeah. I'm from Calgary. >> Okay. Oh, that's that's right there. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I love it. Um yeah, I was just there and

Britneyum the Uber driver just like gave the whole he was just like I have no he's like you just seem like you're nice to talk to and then next thing you know he just told me the whole shindig with the whole sponsorship thing. So it's ironic

Brian Atlasthat you mentioned that because literally not even what like two weeks ago I just learned about that whole >> I I'll give an example. So I I actually have dual citizenship.

Brian Atlas>> Uh you know I'm America first. No no no in uh France. I was born in France, but I I had my mom's American, so dual

Brian Atlascitizenship, whatever. But of course, my loyalties must remain with with the US, but I was born in France. I lived there till I was like five, whatever. Moved

Brian Atlashere. And I've been back over the years. I remember when I was a kid going to the Eiffel Tower.

Brian AtlasA lot's changed in 30 years. >> Yeah. but for the worse. So, I remember I could go to the Eiffel Tower. There weren't barricades. There weren't like

Brian Atlasanti-terrorist soldiers stationed around with like with with rifles everywhere. When I went and this was 10 years ago in 2014 when I went back to France and I went to the Eiffel Tower, there were

Brian Atlassoldiers everywhere with with guns. I don't remember that when I was a kid. That that wasn't >> I do. We did. >> You guys, how old are you guys? You're in your mid20s. I'm 36. You guys were

Brian Atlasnot alive when I was five when I went to the Eiffel Tower as a kid. >> I don't remember when you were five. >> Yeah, >> I Hold on. When you're five. Hold on. When you remember when I was a child? I don't remember. >> Well, I don't remember. Hold on. I don't remember things when I was one or two,

Brian Atlasbut I definitely remember things when I was five. >> And then I went back when I was seven. When I was nine, when But then when I went in 2014, 10 years ago, that's when

Brian AtlasI saw the soldiers. So there's massive absolute massive shifts going on in France. France has led in a bunch and there's a lot of crime. There's been a bunch of terrorist attacks in France.

Brian AtlasIt's just a sad state of affairs when you could go to the Eiffel Tower and there weren't a bunch of barricades and there weren't soldiers with guns. Now there are. >> Yeah. Didn't somebody like behead their teacher due to >> Doesn't that happen in America all of the time?

Summer>> Don't you guys have a hidden in you guys? If you're going to speak, speak into the mic. It happened one time, right? And it's a problem. It happens in your country all the time and it's not a problem. So what's the difference? >> Wait, it is a problem when it does

Summerhappen. >> No, but like why is it used as a statistic when it happens one time in one country and a bunch of years when it happens in your country multiple times daily? Like >> what are you talking terrorist attacks?

Summer>> No, like attacks like violence, gun violence, knife violence, all of this stuff. >> Yeah, that's a bad thing happening. thing. But why is it only used against immigrants in like Europe? >> Do you know what I'm saying? Am I coming across? Do you understand what I'm

Summersaying? >> Yeah. Like you're saying, "Oh, but someone was beheaded in Paris. That's awful." Yes, it is. It's really, really awful. It's horrible. It happens here. Why is that not used as a statistic

Alyssa (Harvard)here? >> Well, I think for a starter, how much bigger the US is compared to compared to other countries. Um, I mean, if you look at like these incidents per 100,000

Alyssa (Harvard)people, I'm sure that the incident rate is probably way closer than if you look at the US as in its entirety and all the incidents that happen in the US with the

Alyssa (Harvard)370 million people we have here compared to the population of France or England. Of course, it's going to be disproportionate with the population. It doesn't mean that we're a more violent country.

Summer>> No, I'm not saying you're a violent country at all. I'm just saying that like you can't use one thing and be like, "Oh, the migrants are taken over because one singular person beheaded someone somewhere in Paris cuz that's

Alyssa (Harvard)it's just makes no sense." >> Oh, of course. But I I think you know, even if you go to the Eiffel Tower now, right, you have everybody all the migrants lined up selling things on the street. >> There's always been licky licky man

Alyssa (Harvard)>> and then the police came and they all come with they pull the towel and they run. Yes, it has always been there. But it I've been going I go to Europe every year, multiple times a year. >> I go >> and and I know you guys live there. So I

Alyssa (Harvard)>> But I also am traveling to different parts. I'm not necessarily like if you go to my hometown and you try to use that as representative of what's going on in the entirety of the United States. You know, you're going to be

Alyssa (Harvard)disappointed and you're not going to get an accurate reflection on what's happening at different parts of the country. Um I can only give like anecdotal evidence of this. I don't know the statistics, but I have seen in my

Alyssa (Harvard)last decade going every year that things have changed. There has been an influx of migrants. I don't know if that necessarily is related to the certain incidences that are happening. And I'm

Alyssa (Harvard)certainly not excusing racism or anti-immigrant rhetoric, >> of course. >> Whatever. However, I think >> what would be wrong with anti-immigrant rhetoric? Well, I just don't know enough

Brian Atlasabout the statistics to make any sort of claim that the immigrants of the cause >> illegal immigration. But look, you're saying, yeah, there are specific

Brian Atlas>> individual acts of violence, but like when we're when we're making criticisms of illegal immigration or even you there's even valid criticisms of just basic level immigrs

Brian Atlasto this, too. Could you name them? >> Oh, absolutely. Increasing rent prices. >> And that's the immigrants fault. >> Well, if you have like housing is not uh

Brian Atlasinfinite. So, if you have a limited housing supply and you're like there's an influx of like 50 100,000 people into an area. >> Yeah. That's going to drive rental prices up. >> So, that's spec I'm talking for my country.

Summer>> Is anybody here with the current rental prices anywhere? >> I'm talking for my country. Um, okay. In Scotland, the the problem isn't immigrants. The problem is people buying multiple properties and then >> Well, I can't talk.

Brian Atlas>> Look, just to be clear, rental prices. >> That's why the rental prices are high. >> Hold on. Obviously, this is a multivaried issue. It we're I'm not saying the entirety of the blame. Yes,

Brian Atlasit could be greedy landlords. It could be corporations that are scooping up properties. It could be all these things in total, but this is one one of the negative components to immigration is

Summerthey have to live somewhere. They're buying they they're occupying the housing stock that could otherwise go to citizens of the country. >> Yes. But we also do that in their well, not their country, but we also do that in Australia. We also do that here in America. Like Scottish people, Irish

Summerpeople, English people migrate to America. You just have a housing problem. Why is it the only >> There's not a lot of illegal immigration from Scotland. >> There's a lot from Ireland. There is >> illegal of illegal York. I mean maybe

Summerlike a hundred years. Hold on. Irish immigrants. I know people that are working in America illegally. Like it's very >> Okay, fine. Then we should deport the illegal Irish too then. >> No, I love the Irish people. I don't

Summerthink you should support anyone. >> Okay, but like it. Okay, sure. I guess >> like there's Why is it only a problem when it's someone like fleeing from a war torn country? Why is >> Mexicans are not fleeing from a war?

Brian AtlasWe're not talking about refugees. We're talking about >> immigration. They're two different things. >> I'm talking about the US. >> Oh, we don't. >> Yeah, we talking We don't. We're talking about every country. >> No, you were talking about even Well, even in America, there's Scottish and

VioletIrish immigrants. >> Scottish accent. >> No, that's just my mocking. >> It wasn't very good. I think what she was saying is that there's migrants to Scotland, but there's also migrants leaving Scotland and going to different countries. >> That's how it works. People move. >> I think she was saying there's like a

Brian Atlasgive and take. I mean, if you're trying to point this out like as a sort of own like, "Oh, Brian, I'm sure you're fine with the illegal immigrants from Scotland." I'd be like, "No, I'm not fine with any of them." >> No, but no one ever talks about it. No one ever >> talks about what?

Brian Atlas>> No one ever is like, >> "We talk about it here in the USA." >> Wasn't there just massive protests? >> Yeah, there's massive protests across the UK. >> There's no >> But there I literally Nick, find that

Summervideo. Find that video. >> It's just London. Like, >> okay. London isn't the whole of the UK. >> There's there were there were protests. >> There were protests in Scotland. They got counter pro. There was like 10 people that showed up.

Summer>> There was one flag in my hometown and then the newspaper wrote about it and someone took it down. So >> yeah, it's not like a big like I'm I respect you. I respect all of you here. Please

Summerdon't listen to the news. It's or the your statistics because we live there. We see it. There's if you put up a [ __ ] like >> wait this is a crazy thing because like well I live in I live in Santa Barbara

Brian Atlaswhich is like one of the highest cost living of cities in uh California and like things here are mostly the same in Santa Barbara but if you look at other regions of California you look at other

Brian Atlasplaces in the United States immigration especially legal immigration absolutely has had impact in communities. I think USA and the UK is very different because >> right but I couldn't look like for

Brian Atlasexample Monaceto is like the wealthiest places in the country. It's just 10 minutes uh 10 minutes down south. Oprah Winfrey lives there. Prince who's the

Brian Atlasprince that moved? Prince Harry lives here with his wife uh Megan Markle. Uh Ellen DeGeneres. Who else? >> Rob. >> Rob Low. A bunch of rich famous people live just 10 minutes away from here. 10

Brian Atlasminutes away like Santa Barbara. rich, snazzy, whatever. Yeah, I can go to the beach in Monaceto and everything can look okay, but that doesn't mean that other regions of the state of California or other regions in the US aren't

Summerfeeling the impact. >> So, I'm speaking about my country, Scotland. And I'm telling you, there's no problems. >> There's no problems in Scot. Okay, >> there's problems in Scotland. I don't know about Scotland. We don't have a migrant problem. We don't >> Well, I don't know what the thing I

Jenny (UK)don't know about Scotland, but I know in England >> where I live, there's no issue. I'm in the Midlands. So >> that's amazing. >> There's no >> That's great. >> Thank you. >> But just because

Brian Atlas>> we also know people from London. >> How many What's the population of your city? >> I don't know the statistic. I'm sorry. >> What What city are you from? >> Manchester. >> Wait, Manchester is pretty pretty big. Uh Wikip,

Summer>> it's not that big to be >> concern. I mean half a million people in Manchester. >> Is that big? >> You're telling me there's no immigrant? Okay. We're not saying there's no immigrants in Manchester. >> We're not we're not saying that. We're saying like what you're seeing on the

Summernews, everyone like protesting against them. It's we don't actually like we don't care. Do you know immigrants built Glasgow like Glasgow's full of immigrants always has been. Glasgow invented chicken tikka masala which is

Summerlike an Indian dish. >> I'm pretty sure our national dish is curry. It is like we we especially Glasgow, especially Edinburgh, we don't have a problem. Like we we like it. We like the immigrants. They're

Brian Atlas>> Wait, I'm just How Okay, so you're saying not an issue? Like we don't see it, but actually yes, there are like >> of course there's immigrants. There's immigrants everywhere, but like it's not

Summeran issue. No one is saying like >> we don't there there's no protests. There's no there's obviously there's protest. >> There's protest in London. >> Yeah. But there's counterprotest against it. the people that try to protest, especially in Scotland, I've been told

Brian Atlasbasically >> can I ask you a question though? Let's say let's say that I'm right on this issue >> and in 50 years time >> the UK, England, Scotland, whatever. >> It's not It's no longer a white majority

Brian Atlascountry. >> Okay. >> And it's no longer a Christian country even. >> Never has been. >> We not really that much. >> Hold on. What? England has never been a Christian country. Don't you have your own church?

Brian Atlas>> We're not religious. Church of England is not like we're I not religious. >> Well, okay. Modern day. Modern day. But the Protestant Well, hold on. >> Yes. Every Sunday. How can you

Summer>> She's religious. >> I go to church everyone there. >> We're not a religious country. >> I'm just saying maybe I'm wrong. I could be wrong, but there could be demographic

Brian Atlasshift in these countries. Yeah, of course. >> And you look at you look at you look at the Scandinavian countries, Sweden, Norway, etc. They've had massive influxes and these are small countries.

Brian AtlasI believe Sweden is like around 10 million. Norway is like 3 to four million or something like that. Maybe these are stats from a couple years ago. They've taken they've taken in massive amounts of people and it's like, well,

Brian Atlasokay, what does it mean to be Swedish? What does it mean to be Norwegian? What does it mean to be British? I think it just what you make it. >> Yeah. >> It's all about individuality. >> Well, can I be Nigerian >> if you want? >> Can I move to Nigeria and become a

Chloe RomaNigerian? >> That's what you want, babe. >> Look, I mean, that's a bit silly. >> I'm from Canada and if anybody knows anything about Canada, we like preach, live, breathe by multiculturalism. So, in Canada, no way are we like, you know,

Chloe Romait needs to be predominantly like white or I mean, even indigenous, I mean, we [ __ ] annihilated indigenous people just to colonize it. It was really [ __ ] up. So, but but nobody in Canada is like, "Oh, you know, [ __ ]

Chloe Romamulticulturalism." But the fact of the matter is is that our government is letting in literally hundreds of thousands of migrants while forgetting about their own people. So, we're having a lot of different issues. We're having

Chloe Romaa housing crisis. We're having an increase of crimes. We're having an increase of sexual assaults. And that's by no means to be like immigration's bad. I believe in immigration. I mostly believe in like refugees. I think as

Chloe RomaCanadians, I think we should accept people that are fleeing, you know, war, oppression, things like that. But at the same time, our government needs to take care of the people because they're not. They're giving all of this money to

Chloe Romapeople who are immigrating here. We're buying up all the houses and nobody can [ __ ] live. Like, I make great money and I'm so lucky for that, but like what the hell would I do? Like, I don't know how the average Canadian's living.

Chloe RomaThey're just not. So, it's not that like immigration's bad and we need like all white people or all people from the, you know, original ethnicity. It's just I think the point is is that like countries need to take care of their own

Chloe Romapeople before giving away all the funds to [ __ ] that doesn't even like >> of course affect Scotland specifically. >> Amen. >> We do look after our own people. Like we have

Summer>> we have benefit systems like we we have homeless shelters. We have like it's very rare like >> they have a housing scheme. >> Yeah, there's a housing scheme. If you're on the streets in Scotland and you need a house, you phone a like you

Alyssa (Harvard)phone someone, you get a house. My brother was homeless. Like but but what's interesting is in so many of these countries that do have intensive benefit systems in place like a lot of

Alyssa (Harvard)Europe a lot of Scandinavia so long they have existed as a homogeneous society in terms of culture socioeconomic

Alyssa (Harvard)background like the workforce there's not the same discrepancy in wealth and beliefs that perhaps we have in America because this country has been built on

Alyssa (Harvard)the premise of diversity and a melting pot. And can you see how it could potentially

Alyssa (Harvard)be at risk or the systems that are in place be threatened when you have people coming in that don't necessarily

Alyssa (Harvard)prescribe to the same ideas, values? And I'm not even speaking in terms of religion because Norway is not religious. The Scandinavian countries

Alyssa (Harvard)are not religion at all, but they are hardworking people and they they all >> uh subscribe to a very similar belief system and contribute equally. >> If we are having an influx of a

Alyssa (Harvard)population that is not contributing equally or do not believe equally um in the same vision and don't have the same alliance to the system, do you worry about the sustainability of those

Alyssa (Harvard)programs in that country moving forward? because now you have a new factor coming in that really throws a wrench into how things have been going on for decades. >> So in the UK, if you're an illegal

Jenny (UK)immigrant, you can't actually claim any benefit. Oh, am I too far away? You can't actually claim any benefits if you're illegal in the UK. So I think everyone if they are illegal do cash in

Jenny (UK)hand. I don't know if you guys say that here. Um like not >> under the table is what we call it here. >> Sorry. No, you're good. Um, personally

Jenny (UK)I don't think I think immigration is good for our economy. However, I do think overpopulation is an issue because there's not enough houses and house prices are crazy.

Brian Atlas>> But saying that, you can't claim the benefits of the UK if you're illegal. >> Yeah, you can. >> Okay, >> we have a chat here from Van Spencer. Brian, please check chair 2. I'm in the

Brian AtlasUK. Manchester, Liverpool, London, >> Birmingham, on and on. Have all fallen. The Irish built Manchester for [ __ ] sakes. Know your history chair, too. >> To be fair, yeah, the Irish.

Summer>> We love the Irish. >> Yeah, there's no beef. The biggest problem that specifically Scotland has is the English coming in. >> Like, I'm not even joking. this there's like a

Summerstatistic the shoes love statistics um that Edinburgh University which is obviously our capital and it's very good university there's like I think it's maybe what like 10% of students there

Jenny (UK)are actually Scottish the rest are like English >> is that considered immigration for you guys if you're if they're all part of the UK >> it's not all technically part of the UK >> so you all have the same passport

Brian Atlas>> all right I got to move on off of this but uh okay This leads back into our next one. Women can't be sexist towards men.

VioletSo, the same sort of framework here. Can can women be sexist towards men? Uh, I mean, I never really thought about that in the way that I thought about

Violetthe, you know, people of color versus white people, but I will say that, you know, just based on me not thinking about that much, I probably have a similar stance to the white people thing where I mean, technically, you could say

Violetsomething sexist, but it probably wouldn't have the same impact. >> It wouldn't have the Okay. What do you think? >> Um, I think women could be sexist towards men. Yeah. >> You think they can be sexist? What do

Madam Houstonyou think? I mean, sure they can be. >> Yeah, they can be. >> That's a good question, but I guess I've never thought about it, but I don't think that a woman can have much of a

Madam Houstonstance when it comes to her opinion about a man as a man does when it comes to a woman. >> So, women can't be sexist towards men? They can. >> I don't think so.

Brian Atlas>> But hold on. I'm confused cuz on your you differ here. You you say black people can be racist towards white people. Women can't be sexist towards men. >> Yeah, because like can you give me an

Brian Atlasexample of what that would look like? A woman being sexist towards a man? >> Well, is it your pos So are w have women been more oppressed by men than

Madam Houstonblack people have been oppressed by white people? >> Okay. Can we keep it simple? Like are we talking about race or gender? Well, I just my confusion here is look,

Brian AtlasI suppose people could have two different opinions here, but you say black people can be racist towards white people, >> correct? >> But women can't be sexist towards men. So, these two are sort of interlin a

Brian Atlaslittle bit. >> Yeah. I don't see how how could that be synonymous because I'm not really I don't really know a woman being sexist. >> Sure. Sure. I'll give you the example. So basically uh some people will argue

Brian Atlasthat because of uh oppression or historical racism or historical uh systemic racism uh black people have been oppressed at the hands of white

Brian Atlaspeople. Therefore uh and also there's like this prejudice plus power >> definition of racism. Racism is prejudice plus power. If black people don't have systemic power in a country,

Brian Atlashow can they be racist towards their oppressor basically? >> Okay. But so you you dismiss you dismiss that though. You'd say, "Well, yes, black people have experienced racism perhaps more in greater proportion than

Brian Atlaswhite people, but despite this, black people can still be racist towards white people." Well, it'd be then similar because you might say, "Well, women have been oppressed by men, blah, blah, blah. Women have been disadvantaged." >> I don't think women are oppressed by

Brian Atlasmen, though. Women, the world was built for women. >> Women can be sexist or can't be

Alyssa (Harvard)I >> I don't know. I think that's a good enough answer. >> All right. What do you think? >> Oh, yeah. I think women can be sexist. I think they do a better job of branding it. Like they call it pro-woman rather than >> being anti-man, but I think they can be. >> What do you think?

Chloe Roma>> Yes. >> Okay. Chloe, what do you think? >> Yeah. I think a great example of uh like systemic sexism towards men is uh the you uh the UK's current policy about how

Chloe Romathey define uh male victims of domestic violence. They're currently classified under a bill that's uh it's called uh men who are uh men and boys who are

Chloe Romacrimes uh who are victims of crimes against women and it falls against the domestic violence act basically suggesting that they like are women. There's no category protecting boys and men. They fall under the category of

Madam Houstoncrimes. Yeah. >> What about America? >> Like you brought up something in you brought up something in United Kingdom. I'm not from the United Kingdom. I'm from America. So what's the statistics in America? >> Well, I think >> about a woman being sexist towards a

Alyssa (Harvard)man. >> Yeah. Exact. Well, I'll give you an example. I am a landlord and I own in a few different places. And if I allegedly refused to rent to men because I said

Alyssa (Harvard)men are dirtier, they're more reckless. They're bad tenants. And um you know what? I want to give an opportunity to a woman. >> Okay,

Madam Houston>> that is the man versus bear trend. Yeah, I couldn't think of an example, but when you put it like that, okay, a woman can be sexist towards a man. I just never thought about it. So >> yeah, or the man versus bear trend, right? the the ideology cuz if you

SPEAKER_03replace men >> Oh, okay. If that's an example, then yeah, that is sexist towards a man. >> Yeah. >> Okay. What about you? What do you think? Can a woman be sexist towards men? >> Oh, yeah. I I already established that. >> Okay. >> What do you think? >> Yes.

SPEAKER_03>> And >> yes. Yeah, we went there. >> Okay. Um, let me find where he left off.

Alyssa (Harvard)>> You know, but the way that they do it are different, you know, because men and men and women operate differently. It's not quite the same as race. Like, >> women can be sexist in ways or try to attack men in ways that are different

SPEAKER_03from how men >> inflict discrimination or violence on women. Mhm. >> So the next question is a man dating or statement a man dating a transgender

SPEAKER_03woman is straight and you agreed with that. >> A transgender woman. >> Did we say that? >> What do you think? >> I think it Yeah, I agree. >> Okay. Well, let me see what everyone said.

Madam Houston>> What is a transgender woman again? Is it a man that became a woman or a woman that became a man? >> Man that became a woman. >> A man that became a woman. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, >> and that's straight. The statement is a man dating a transgender woman is

Madam Houstonstraight. >> But if that's physically a real man, then how is that straight? >> Great question. >> Well, that's the question. >> Oh, okay. I see. I see. I see. >> That's the premise. >> Okay. So, what do you think? >> Uh, I think Yeah, straight.

Alyssa (Harvard)>> Okay. What do you think? >> Absolutely not. >> I think straight. >> I think that's gay. >> What do you think? >> Um, I don't I don't really know. I'm not

Alyssa (Harvard)a straight man. I'm not a transgender woman. Like I I I I'd be curious to hear their rationale one way or the other, but I don't know. Do they consider do

Alyssa (Harvard)men who cons who date trans women consider themselves gay or straight? >> I think it would be pansexual. >> Most of them consider themselves straight though >> because like if

Jenny (UK)>> do are they actively like seeking out >> still has like a penis? I don't think that's straight completely. I mean, if they've transitioned though, surely >> they're classified as a woman.

Jenny (UK)>> They're going around still. So, what do you think? >> It's an abomination. >> [ __ ] off. >> She want a mic drop. >> Mic up.

Brian Atlas>> I wanted to finish off though on the women can't be sexist towards men thing. >> So, it was your position. Your position. Your position. Is that >> Oh, no. I agree that women can be sexist. >> Oh, women can be sexist. Just your two

Violetpositions. >> No, I think women can be sexist >> towards men. >> Yeah. >> Oh, is it just you then or >> Well, I mean I think that I I think it's not exactly like the same comparison,

Violetbut I think I have a similar thing where yes, technically you can be sexist, but it still doesn't hold the same weight, so it shouldn't be compared in the same category. I guess >> I disagree. If you look at um domestic violence specifically, statistically,

Chloe Romathis goes all across the board. It doesn't matter where you're from. Um, statistically, men are believed a lot less. Um, they are, you know, considered weak. They don't have the ability to, uh, be quote unquote victims the same

Chloe Romaway that women are because people assume that because you're a man that you must be stronger. And so, therefore, they are often dismissed in their quote unquote victimhood, I guess you could say. So it

Chloe Romadoes um sexism towards men actually does lead to higher addictions rates, homelessness, suicidal ideiation, domestic violence. It does hold the same weight. It's just not spoken about.

Brian Atlas>> That is true. A man can't win for losing if it comes to a situation like that. He damned if he do and he damned if he don't, >> right? >> What would you What would you say are some of the because of sexism are some

Brian Atlasof the negative life outcomes that women experience >> because of sexism? How how does sexism affect women basically? >> Sure.

Violet>> Uh I mean just in the same I feel like I mostly covered this when we were talking about whatever what what was the question before when I was talking about oh are you a feminist? >> Um

Violet>> it's just sort of the same reasons like I think that women are respected less. I think that women are um >> yeah I don't know. I feel like I >> okay >> talked about that. >> All right. Um,

Alyssa (Harvard)>> well, one thing I want to say is I think that sometimes sexism can work out tremendously in the favor of women because women are if women are underestimated, right? Like you said before, one of the greatest advantages

Alyssa (Harvard)if people think you're dumb, then they're going to underestimate you. I mean, I've personally done business with men that I can tell like, okay, they don't respect me as much because I'm a woman. That's fine. I actually have no

Alyssa (Harvard)problem with that because it is fundamentally easier to negotiate or persuade a man who believes that you are incapable of being just as smart as

Alyssa (Harvard)them. So I I think in like a really weird way, sexism, like blatant true sexism where a man thinks I'm better than all these [ __ ] and they're

Alyssa (Harvard)incapable of any brain activity and they're not capable of being smart. For some women that is such an advantage because you are able to take advantage of that weakness and for the fact you are going

Violetto be underestimated. I don't know if anybody put it like that. >> I definitely think there is a way to look at that as advantage but I also think that still that's just using somebody else's power for your own benefit and it's not really the same >> or somebody else's weakness. >> Well, it's not really as having your own

Madam Houstonpower. I mean that's just how I view it. I I do see how you can view that as a an advantage though. >> Yeah. I think anybody that's not aware of their weaknesses makes them weak in the first place. >> Wait, so is is one of your things here

Brian Atlaslike women are just viewed as stupid? Is like that's your contention? >> Uh I mean that's putting it bluntly, but in some ways Sure. >> Yeah. I guess what what do you think is

Brian Atlasworse though? So if if women are viewed as stupid and I think there's I actually dispute this um but if if this is actually true then men are viewed as what?

Violet>> By who? other women or well women. Yeah. >> What are men viewed as if women are viewed as stupid?

Brian Atlas>> I'll answer. Men are viewed >> as monsters. They're viewed as predatory innately. They're viewed as dangerous. They're they're viewed >> Well, that's because a lot of men are

Brian Atlasdangerous. I would argue even if we grant that women have are are not, you know, respected as much as men are, I think it's quite disrespectful to paint

Brian Atlasan entire gender, 50% of the population as dangerous, violent, predatory, uh, all these sorts of things. Uh, I think that that's a worse characterization than being charact I

Brian Atlaswould rather be hold on. I would rather be characterized as stupid and be treated with a lack of respect than be treated with fear, be treated with as if

Brian AtlasI'm violent or a predator or any of these sorts of things. If I had to choose between the two, I would trade places instantly. At least for that dynamic, I would absolutely trade >> Well, first of all, I made that point

Violetabout women, but I didn't make that point about men. I never said that that I've >> Okay, sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. >> What? Oh, no. I was just going to say it's like pretty mainstream feminist. >> But I'm just saying that's not what I

Violetsaid. But I also >> But you you don't think that >> men are dangerous? >> I do think men are dangerous, but Okay, hold on. So, it is what you said, >> but I didn't you you said that without me having said that before. You're thinking, >> of course, I assumed it because I mean,

Violetyou're a feminist and what I I rightly assumed. >> So, I mean, we can think all men are dangerous, but I do think that there is re it's realistic. Like if you want to

Violetstart pulling stupid >> what >> I'm just I'm using your logic. >> But you don't think Okay.

Violet>> I'm not making a point about women. I'm talking about myself right now. I don't view all men as dangerous. Of course, I have a brother. I have a dad. They're nice people. But I >> Right. I have a mom. I have a sister. I don't view all women as stupid.

Brian Atlas>> But do you feel like Okay, good. What are you I What are I'm talking about myself. Why are you keep say the opposite of what I'm saying? >> You were saying how you know an example of sexism towards women is that people

Brian Atlasview them as stupid or inept or you know they get treated with less respect than men do. And I was my counter to that is okay even granting if that's I dispute

Brian Atlasit to some degree but even granting it's true I would say well men are viewed as violent as predatory as dangerous as all these sorts of things and I think that

Violetthat's like in terms of sexism if we're like doing a comparison of sexism that's way worse than being viewed as stupid. Well, I would say that the the statistics about men being dangerous is based on more statistics and fact and

Brian Atlasreality than women being stupid. >> Well, then hold on. I could use Hold on. First, hold on. I can make that same exact argument towards women's intelligence. Then >> with what statistics? >> Oh, okay. For example, the fact like

Brian Atlaschess is a game of chess is strictly a game of intelligence. Women are just for >> chess has been available for women for hundreds of years. F we'll just say decades. Uh none of them are able to compete with men when it comes to chess.

Brian AtlasI saw the queen. >> Well, that's not true. There are plenty of amazing women chess players. >> None of them can beat like the number one ch uh grandmaster. >> Sure. But there are still a lot of women. What is it called? The elo. Yeah,

Violetsure. There's female grand masters, but none of them can beat the men. >> Well, I mean, I think that >> the top men, I should say. >> But that's one I don't think that that like asserts the fact that women are

Alyssa (Harvard)stupider than men. That's just one. don't think that chess represents the general representation of all people because the average person at least in the United States is does not I don't

Alyssa (Harvard)think you know if we're reading at a fourth grade reading level they don't possess the intelligence to be a chess master >> the average man in the United States is not a violent criminal who assaults

Chloe Romawomen and rapes them so where you're making I feel like you're making false >> no where you're getting lost is he's making an equivalent right he's saying that like, you know, sexism towards

Chloe Romawomen could say like women are just dumb, right? And there's he he's trying to make a comparison because you said that men are like mostly dangerous and that's just statistically not true. That's

Chloe Roma>> I don't think men are mostly dangerous, but I think that >> I thought you said that. >> No, no, no. You said you were citing to crime statistics, >> right? And thank you. And statistically it's a it's a false narrative especially

Chloe Romalike we'll talk US cuz we're in the US but it kind of grows across the board like uh women are the number one perpetrators overwhelmingly um of abuse against children. They murder their

Chloe Romachildren the most. Um the domestic violence rate is almost 50/50 with women actually perpetrating a little bit more. So the the point is is that statistically it wouldn't add up that

Chloe Romalike men are more inherently dangerous than women. just like statistically it wouldn't necessarily add up that like women are dumber. That's >> sure. But I will say that for well I

Violetwould think that there's you know the thing about women being stupid like there's not no just to be clear. >> There's not like statistics about that. Nobody goes out and does but nobody goes

Violetout and does oh are you stupid? Like it's it's there are certain things that you can that you can look to and be like, "Oh, this is a this is a this is a hint of women's intelligence versus men's." >> I mean, you can do IQ IQ testing. >> Yeah. But no, the whole public isn't

Violetgoing to go do that. >> But but it depends how you interpret the IQ data, >> but there is data based on a men are the majority perpetrators of sexual assault,

Violetbut also and listen, domestic violence is terrible from anybody. And if it's true, I don't know the statistics. If it's true that it's 50/50, that makes sense. But also, because I said before and you asked this question, do I think that men are physically stronger than

Chloe Romawomen? I do. And so, there is more of a threat from men for domestic violence. >> But men don't actually like men don't they don't commit the majority of sex crimes. They commit the majority of sex

Chloe Romacrimes against um children. That is that is a fact. >> I think that men do commit the majority of sex crimes. >> Not nec the data isn't accurate because there's a lack number one, there's a

Chloe Romalack of funding. There's a lack of research. There's um societal norms that would state that a man is just gay if he doesn't like it. I mean, there's

Brian Atlas>> But couldn't you argue there's a lack of There's another thing here. >> It's jurisdiction dependent, but in certain jurisdictions, and I I couldn't tell you which specific one, but if we look it up, we can definitely find it.

Brian AtlasSo there's this, you know, I don't know, they say 97% of of rapes are committed by men. But if you look at the definition of what rape is, if in that

Brian Atlasdefinition, it would make it essentially impossible for a woman to commit the crime. Mhm. >> So for example, uh a component uh and again different states, different countries define rape different

Brian Atlasdifferently, but in a lot of these jurisdictions in order to be found guilty of rape, you have there has to be a a penetration, >> not forced to >> not uh what's the term? Made to

Brian Atlaspenetrate >> would not constitute a rape. >> Yeah. Now, legally speaking, from a criminal perspective, now from a societal perspective, we might still categorize this as rape. Like if a woman

Brian Atlasforced a man to insert himself into her or something like that, we might society deem it as >> that, hey, you've just been raped. But like from a legal perspective, from a crime perspective, if the actual crime

Chloe Romaitself is in order to commit a rape, you must penetrate another person's body. Well, women >> and it doesn't state you rape classifies as being forced to penetrate, then you have a disparity in in stat,

Brian Atlas>> right? So, but but it's this sort of like well, if women definitionally and anatomically can't commit the crime of rape, well, of course, then you're going to see these statistics that would in

Brian Atlasthat would it's a it's a great talking point for feminists. Well, okay, 97% of men commit rape. Well, okay. Again, if women can't like legally if the if those if that

Violet>> if a legal definition doesn't recognize women as rapists, then of course >> that's definitely true and I I've heard that before and I think that's a really valid point. I still think with those parameters that men commit more sex

Brian Atlascrimes than women do. That may very well be true, but it's worth pointing out that these sort of buzz buzzword statistics or whatever are not do are not fairly representing, you know, kind

Brian Atlasof what's actually going on. For example, all these female teachers who are having sex uh >> who are having sex with, you know, high school boys or whatever, >> raping, let's use the correct

Brian Atlasterminology here. It's not consensual. I would I would yes I would say it's that but the actual crime they're charged with is some other form of uh sexual assault sexual coercion >> you know maybe they're charged with like a statutory rape or something but

Brian Atlasthey're not actually like the actual act itself would not be categorized for statistic purposes as an actual rape but there's rampant rampant amount and I think it's actually for that specific

Chloe Romathing where you see a teacher and a student it's overwhelmingly women uh female teachers who are having sex with their students. >> Yeah. And if you look at even how the news I just did a like a big video on

Chloe Romathis on YouTube like a couple months ago uh pointing out how the news reports um sex crimes whenever it's a male teacher uh molesting a female student. It's always like teacher arrested for like

Chloe Romarape and it's always like uh a photo of them that's like very unflattering. They look like criminals. But every almost every single time it's a female teacher against a male student, the rhetoric

Chloe Romachanges. It's no longer teacher arrested for like rape. It's like teacher had sexual relationship with the kid. And like the the terminology changes because there's an implication of consent. And

Chloe Romathat's the issue, especially with this whole ideology that men commit sex crimes more than women. It's just not true. We're just not recognizing it. Like every single guy friend that I

Chloe Romahave, if you ask, and I want you, you're you're in college, so I want you to like remember this conversation and start asking the men around you, even just like when they lost their virginity, and you'll find that the majority of them will have a story where it's like you'll

Chloe Romalisten to it and you'll be like, "Ain't you a victim?" Like most of them are like, "Oh, I lost it at 10, 11 years old to like this 20year-old." And it's insane. male bouncers. You talked to to male bouncers and how many women they

Chloe Romahave to like drag out each night because they're walking up. They're groping men. They're We don't have this We have this ideology of masculinity. >> I would say you're right. >> And that creates uh a rape culture against men where if we're not even

Chloe Romarecognizing that they can be victims because they have to be bigger, because the assault has to be violent. If we have all of these uh I can't remember the word, but like uh what what's the word? when there's

Chloe Romalike a basis for something >> justification. Wait, >> no, no, I I can't remember it right now. But if guidelines, if we have all these guidelines of like what classifi Yeah.

Chloe Romaof what classifies a sexual assault, there's a huge like there's a a huge difference there. And as women, we can understand this because a lot of times, you know, when we talk about essay or

Chloe Romasomething, if it's not violent, like if we're coerced, if we're, you know, if we got drunk, like there are a lot of people that don't recognize it as SA. So

Chloe Romaif you're a gender that is stigmatized to be strong, to not be weak, to always want sex, you you're breeding a culture of like misandry and uh a culture where

Madam Houstonmen can be taken advantage of, and they are. I just think the truth is the world is easier on women. So, it's easier for women to get away with it. That's just the truth. But the problem with women is that women try to compete with a man.

Madam HoustonAnd I don't think that's what women should do. I think that a man should be in a man's place and a woman should stay in a woman's place. And I think that's the problem with today's generation and where it's going wrong at because

Sarah (Baptist)>> that's it. >> You know what's interesting? Um there's a case of a guy um I don't know his name exactly but he was doing really well in school and he had all kinds of um

Sarah (Baptist)football scholarships offered to him and then these two girls um accused him of rape and he was in prison for a couple years and lost all everyone lost respect for him. he didn't, you know, obviously

Sarah (Baptist)they're not going to give him his scholarship back. And then the two girls ended up confessing, yeah, we were lying. He didn't do any of that. And I felt so bad for him cuz he was crying on

Sarah (Baptist)uh in the courtroom like on the U table. Um and that's what's actually dangerous about AI as well and deep fakes is because

Sarah (Baptist)there's potential for um accusing men by using their photos. It's I know like >> well I think that is definitely a good point and that definitely happens but I think that that's

Sarah (Baptist)>> but women don't really have to worry about that all the time. So I mean I used to be a secretary of a church and my pastor he was even um cautious about

Sarah (Baptist)um being in the same room with me just us two alone. And I can understand that like he has a wife he has children. Um, his wife was my best friend, one of the closest persons to my heart that I've

Sarah (Baptist)ever met. And their children were like my children. They call me their auntie. >> Um, but he was even like so cautious about it that he put

Sarah (Baptist)cameras up around everywhere. >> Well, that that is also >> and um he's still he still um

Sarah (Baptist)>> he still got accusations toward him in that way. And it unfortunately he wasn't he was he's gone from the church to have to live with that all the time in fear

Sarah (Baptist)of that kind of stuff like I understand yes there's problems both on in the men camp and the women camp but um it's almost like nobody's immune to these

Violetkind of destructions of course. Well, that thing about the priest, first of all, that's terrible, but it also comes from the fact that there's been a history of molestation and stuff in the Catholic Church specifically, but also

Violetjust in church. >> Grandfather was one of them. >> Exactly. So, it there is like this things like this are based off of history. And going back to what you were saying before, obviously, I'm not going to dispute the fact that men can be

Violetassaulted. Men get assaulted all the time. But it goes back again to my point about physical stature and stuff that what you were saying about aggression. There is just not there's just not the

Chloe Romasame threat of aggression from women as there is for men. >> But the domestic violence rate is 50/50. So statistically that's untrue. In fact, women actually reported um committing

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