HEATED Debate With Harvard Grad! HER League = Henry Cavill?! Chloe Roma Army! | Dating Talk #261

Date: 2025-09-22

Duration: 8h 09m

Guests

Brian Atlas

AAlyssa (Harvard)>

MMadam Houston >

SSarah (Baptist)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Chloe Roma(guest)

SPEAKER_04Jenny (UK)(guest)

SPEAKER_06Summer(guest)

SPEAKER_07Alyssa (Harvard)(guest)

SPEAKER_08Britney(guest)

SPEAKER_09Violet(guest)

SPEAKER_10Madam Houston(guest)

SPEAKER_13Felicity(guest)

SPEAKER_14Sarah (Baptist)(guest)

Key Moments

IntroAll guests introduce themselves including Alyssa playing piano

ControversyBrian challenges Summer: Christian + OnlyFans = vegetarian eating hamburger

Key MomentHarvard verification quiz: Alyssa identifies Annenberg dining hall, Drew Faust as president

QuoteMadam Houston: Kirk died 'doing what he loved, badass way to go out'

ControversyHeated clash between Chloe Roma and Madam Houston

Key MomentBrian negotiates Britney from $500K to $90K in Idaho

QuoteSummer's KFC date: man defecated, took vegan to KFC, ate her ass, stole her panties

ControversySarah vs Brian: Ephesians 5:22 submission debate. Sarah accuses Brian of twisting scripture like Satan.

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

All guests including Harvard grad Alyssa who played piano live.

Christianity vs OnlyFans

Summer claims God is happy she makes men happy. Sarah dying inside.

Charlie Kirk Memorial

Panel discusses assassination and public response.

Relationship Status Round

Summer single 2 years. Violet never had boyfriend. Britney single 1 month.

Feminism Debate

Brian: feminism is women's advocacy not equality. Jenny: all women are 10s.

Body Count Round

Summer 8. Britney personal <10/work 100+. Jenny ~30s. Chloe 11.

Bow/Submission Segment

Brian shows ex bowing video. Sarah vs Brian on Ephesians 5:22.

Transcript

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Brian Atlaswas cool. Maybe, who knows? We're going to get Rocky on the show. Um, speaking of which, of course, uh, today was the memorial for Charlie Kirk. We have his uh, photo here. Rest in peace to uh,

Brian AtlasCharlie, excuse me, Charlie Kirk. Uh, it was very, I watched most of it. It was very uh wonderful memorial service that they had uh for him. I'm sure most of

Brian Atlasyou guys also caught it. So uh rest in peace Charlie. We're going to keep this up for for a while in remembrance of uh Charlie Kirk.

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Brian Atlasgoing to have the guests introduce themselves. So, please tell us your name, age, occupation, where you're from, and education. Go ahead. >> Uh, my name is Violet. I'm 18. Uh, I'm from California and I go to UC Santa

VioletBarbara. >> All right. Uh, what part of California are you from? >> Uh, well, I grew up in New York, but now I live in Los Angeles area. >> Oh, when when did you move to LA? >> About six years ago. >> Oh, okay. Gotcha. What part of New York were you in? Manhattan. >> Manhattan. Yep.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Why the why the move to California? >> Uh, a lot of reasons. I don't know. It's I mean >> I guess well I guess it was your parents choice. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yep. It had to be. >> Yeah. >> Okay. All right. What are you studying at UCSB?

Brian Atlas>> Undeclared right now actually. So >> are you're going into your first year? Oh, okay. >> Undeclared. All right. Do you have a sense of what you maybe want to get into down the road? >> Um I have a lot of different senses. Um

SummerI mean >> I'm interested in radio for sure, so I was thinking maybe something along those lines, but >> Okay. Rock and roll. What about you? >> Hi, I'm Summer. I'm 27 from Scotland and

Brian AtlasI live only fans obviously. >> Why? Why would that be obvious? >> It's obvious. >> Why is that obvious? >> I mean, it's so obvious that >> I mean you could be like a nun then also have >> I actually technically like I'm

Summer>> crushers. What? >> I'm like super Christian. So I can I could be a nun if I wanted to. But >> um >> you see that cross above that rack? >> Yeah.

Summer>> Hold that up. Hold it up. The She's got a >> little >> Are you a You're a Christian then? >> Yeah, I am. >> What denomination of Christian are you?

Summer>> Just Christian like um I would say probably closer to Catholic, but >> closer to Catholic. >> Yeah, I don't discriminate. I love God either way. Doesn't matter if it's >> Okay, we'll get into that. Actually, should I bite? >> You can bite if you want. I don't care.

SummerI'm just >> So, you are religious. Do you go to church? >> Yes, I do. Every Sunday. >> What What's the denomination of the church? I go to a Catholic church every Sunday. >> Okay. But you're not quite Catholic.

Summer>> Oh, it's kind of hard. I have like my parents are different religions, so there's like >> little bits from different parts. >> Okay. And you have you been going to

Summerchurch your whole life or? >> No. Um I only started going to church for the past like three years. >> Three years. When did you start doing Only Fans? >> A year ago. >> A year ago. Okay. Um, and do you always go to the same church or is it a different church?

Brian Atlas>> I go to the same church back home. Yeah. >> Every single week. >> Every single Sunday. >> Every Sunday. >> Every Sunday. >> Um, okay. Really quick question on this and I'll continue with the the intros. Um, do you think do you believe in God?

Brian Atlas>> Of course. >> Do you think God wants you to do Only Fans? >> I don't think he minds. I don't think he discriminates. Mary Meline was a prostitute. He didn't. >> There's dispute over that. But do you think he he wants you doing You say he doesn't mind. And do you think he wants

Summeryou doing it? >> I think God wants me to be happy and I'm happy within my life. So I don't think God's really >> But you believe in the concept of sin? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I think if what you're doing hurts someone and harms someone, then yes, for

Brian Atlassure. But >> do you think so? One of the seven deadly sins, lust. >> Yeah. But >> so you're inducing people to to lust, you're engaging in lust. >> Yeah, I am. But it's I'm not hurting anyone when I'm doing it. So I don't

Brian Atlasthink >> But it's a sin, right? So how so look if you were an atheist there wouldn't really be you know okay whatever you do only fans >> for example like >> if somebody told me they're vegetarian

Brian Atlasand then I saw them eat a hot dog >> I don't care for if somebody wants to eat a hot dog >> oh I eat hot dogs that's cool but if somebody claims they're a vegetarian I

Brian Atlaswould have to be like well hold on you just said you're a ve vegetarian you're eating meat >> are you a Christian >> no I'm not >> you not do you not believe in Uh yeah. Yeah, we can just say that. Sure.

Summer>> You believe in God? So there's so many things in the Bible that are like you can't wear certain different clothing, you can't do certain different things. >> Well, there's the Old Testament and the New Testament himself as Christians. I

Summerdon't think God really cares if I'm taking pictures of myself. >> Is there anything that God does care about? >> If you're a bad person and you're being harming another person, probably. But I also don't think

Brian Atlas>> but what about under the doctrine of the faith? It would seem to point towards you engaging in the kind of work that you're engaging in is in contravention of God's will and God's word.

Summer>> Yes. But it's not like apparently harming anyone. I'm not harming anyone. I don't think God's looking to >> Well, there's some dispute there, but >> I I disagree with that. But we can >> Well, let's get let's give y'all the God title then.

Brian Atlas>> You can be God. >> Okay. But so I guess I'll just ask my question again. Do you think God wants you to do Only Fans? >> I don't think he cares. >> Okay. What do you think Satan wants? >> I don't think he cares either.

Summer>> I don't think they care if I'm taking pictures or videos of myself. I think they care if I'm a nice person, like a charitable person. That's all I care think they care about and I am. So

Brian Atlas>> that's all I care about. >> Um do you in in the Catholic faith, do you do confession? >> I'm not a Catholic. I just go to a Catholic church. Right. But you go to the Catholic church. >> Yeah.

Alyssa (Harvard)>> Okay. So if you were to go to >> just as a Catholic, you have to undergo many steps before you are considered a Catholic, you have to be baptized into the Catholic church, confirmed, receive your first communion. Before you're

Alyssa (Harvard)considered a fullfledged Catholic that can receive communion, go to confession, and do some of the other ceremonial things. Anybody can attend a Catholic church, but not everybody attending a Catholic church is a Catholic. whether

Brian Atlasor not she's a Catholic, she does identify as a Christian. She's wearing a cross. She does claim to go to a church every Sunday. I guess my confusion here

Brian Atlasis not whether you know what specific denomination she is, but regardless of, you know, which one, how you reconcile engaging in essentially online

Summerprostitution and calling yourself a Christian? >> Yeah. I don't think God cares. I don't think God cares if I'm taking pictures or videos. I don't think he I think God

Brian Atlasonly really cares if I'm like physically harming someone or being a mean person. >> So the Bible is it for you? I think the term is solless scriptor. It's just up to your interpretation. >> I just think that there's so many

Brian Atlasthings. >> Wait, just answer my question first. >> What was your question? >> So do you the biblical interpretation? You're the final arbiter.

Madam HoustonYou choose what is the truth as it relates to theology. >> I don't know. >> But I don't know. >> She if she can't do that, then you can't either. You can't tell her what to do

Brian Atlaswith her body. >> But you you telling her she can't be an arbitrator, but you are by telling her what she can and can't do with her body. >> Hold on. That that doesn't even compute whatsoever in the vegan example I gave you.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Are we talking about diet or religion? Those are two different things. >> You're already 30 minutes late. I don't need your attitude already. Maybe if you've been on >> CPT, at least fashionably. >> What is CPT? >> Oh my god, you're so uncultured, Brian.

Madam HoustonNobody know what CPT is. >> I'm not sure. >> There's no way. I'm the only >> color people time. >> Colored. What is it? >> Color people time. >> What is What is that? >> It's over your head. We can move on. >> No, explain it.

Madam Houston>> Color people time. Like how people are always late, especially, you know, black people. So, at least I showed up on CPT. But fashionably, at least. for holding up the the culture. >> Oh, got to. Yeah, just a little bit. >> Gotcha.

Brian Atlas>> I love that. >> Uh so anyways, um I guess again with the vegan example or vegetarian example, I'm not a vegetarian, but if somebody tells me they're vegetarian and I see

Summerthem eating a hamburger, I think it's fair to kind of question. >> No, I'm like so totally fine with you questioning me, but I just know that God doesn't God doesn't care.

Brian AtlasOkay. I mean, >> all right. I'm gonna move on. Maybe we can dive into it a bit more later. Okay. But I do think the

Brian AtlasI do think the there is something as it relates to claiming to be a Christian and what the Bible says. So I don't think

Brian Atlas>> like if you were to if you were to like get some sort of >> if you were to talk to the anon cath is it a pastor priest what is it >> a priest in the >> if you if you went to a priest and been like >> I have

Brian Atlas>> hey you're an expert in theology you know like am is what I'm doing okay he would say no >> no that's not true I have spoken to a priest

Summer>> you you've spoken to a Catholic priest >> I have yeah so I think the difference is in religion is the difference in religion in Scotland land is so different from your religion in America.

SummerYou guys like religion's like such a big huge massive situation where you have to follow a certain rule book. But in Scotland it's not. We're just our priests are nice people. They don't

Summercare. >> Okay. >> He just says as long as I'm not hurting someone, I'm not hurting someone. Like he says if you're a good person, you're a good person. You want to volunteer at church, volunteer at church. >> I think I got it. >> You fixed it. >> I have to go on live. It's not

Brian Atlasautomatically starting. Oh, here it's it's look. Auto start super chats. >> Oh, thank you. >> Do you see that? Just click that. It should do it. >> All right. Hold on. We have a chat coming in here. One sec.

SPEAKER_00>> Just Gerald donated $200. God just wants you to be happy. Show me in the Bible where Jesus said, "Nah, babe. It's chill if you get gangbanged

Madam Houstonas long as you're like happy and like living your truth." >> Cool. So, I'm not getting gangbanged. So I think that's maybe that even if you >> even if he was sex is natural. God

Brian Atlasapproves of that in the Bible too if you really knew about that. Jess Gerald the >> Well, I mean if you're a Christian I think uh God would approve of sex within the confines of marriage.

Summer>> I think it's so point blank. I think you guys are so serious over here. um we like obviously we're not as in our faith like yes I go to church

Summerevery Sunday I volunteer at the church every Monday I like am very well-known person within the church but I God doesn't judge me just because I do Only Fans in fact my church knows I do Only

Brian AtlasFans everyone knows I live in a very small country >> so okay your church that you go to the pastor not Pastor, the priest knows you do it. >> They do.

Summer>> He did. What do you mean? He >> They do. I said accent. >> Okay. He did. The the other members of the congregation know. >> Yeah. We're very a welcoming country.

Brian Atlas>> Like I don't think it matters. >> I mean, this is I'm not Look, I'm not a Christian. I'm not a Catholic. But like, you're Catholic. I don't know if in your church this would ever be acceptable for

Brian Atlassomebody to be like openly like a prostitute essentially. I mean you could be an ex-p prostitute I guess whatever >> but an active prostitute. I mean that's fake news. >> So I'm not actually an active

Brian Atlasprostitute. I think that's the maybe the confusion. I'm not >> we're sort of parsing terms here. The the way I'm using it though more so relates to like you engaging in like online sex work if you prefer that

Summerterminology. >> The way I picture is I'm just making men happy. So I think God would be really happy that I'm making other men happy. >> What about all the damages that pornography does? >> Like what? >> Uh well there's a lot of damage actually.

Chloe Roma>> Yeah. Can you name them? >> I sure can. Yeah. Um it contributes to porn addictions. Um, I actually brought I don't have my phone with me, but I brought some pretty specific statistics

Chloe Romawith me today um from recent studies that they've been doing since 2024 about um children, specifically adolescents, meaning under 16, right? 14, 16. Anyway, >> so is it okay if I just interject? In

Summerthe UK, physically impossible. There's laws in place. Kids cannot see me, not even on Instagram. Kids can't see me on Twitter. It's against the law. It's against the law. There's a new law. Yeah, Brian, may I ask something point

Chloe Romasince you got a point to prove? >> Yeah, thank you. Um, yeah, so my point was is that um there's a lot of studies that have come out about um children consuming pornography and where the

Chloe Romamajority of them get it from is actually social media and overwhelming majority of them came across it accidentally. And that's that's just in children. If you

Chloe Romalook at um pornography in general, it's uh it causes, you know, porn addictions, anxiety, sleep deprivation, uh lack of social skills. There's a lot there's a

Chloe Romalot of studies showing the harm in not just making it, but also um watching it as well. So, I would heavily disagree that you're not harming anybody. I don't think your intention is to harm anybody,

Chloe Romabut the reality of it is is that the consumption and overconumption of pornography is incredibly harmful, not just to women, but to men as well, >> to be honest. Um, like and respectful at

Sarah (Baptist)the same time. Um, I'm a reformed Baptist. I lean toward that more strict conservative. And to be frank and honest in a nice way, um, you showing your

Madam Houstonbreasts and claiming to be a Christian, it actually is killing me inside right now. >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> So, I'm not a diva. Um, >> um, okay. So, >> I'm not finished, ma'am. I'm not finished.

Brian Atlas>> Then, there are people watching porn, so I'm going to [ __ ] Nobody's sitting there crying. You were 30 [ __ ] minutes late. You missed the part. You should have been on [ __ ] time. This is the second time you've

Brian Atlasbeen on the show. I told you if you're going to come back on the show, we're not going to have you constantly interrupting somebody. This is your final warning car off, too. She ain't finished. >> Yeah, but you have a you have a propensity to doing this. This is going

Brian Atlasto be your final warning. Otherwise, you can drive your ass back to [ __ ] LA if you interrupt again. Let her finish. >> Let her finish. If you had been on time, you would have heard the pre-show where

Brian Atlasuh Mary went over and said, "Don't interrupt. Let people finish." In fact, I reminded everybody right before we went live. That's good. Go ahead. >> Everybody's going to get cut off every here and there. It's not being

Brian AtlasI need to be careful with you because you had a terrible habit of doing it last show. I'm gonna give people grace and I'll get I I'll allow some degree of interrupting, but you've done it already today >> and you did it a bunch >> last time you were on the show.

Sarah (Baptist)>> Okay. >> So, you're going to get a little bit more attention for that. >> Thank you. I love attention. >> That's great. Go ahead. >> Uh so, it is offensive to me. Um one of the main reasons why I actually wanted

Sarah (Baptist)to be on the show was because of what something that I saw on the show in the past. Um, like Brian, like how you're saying like, you know, if you're propagating that and it's sin, it's

Sarah (Baptist)sexual, like you can't that's not how that offends the purity of Christ himself. There was a girl that was on the podcast a while ago. Her name as Cindy, I believe, and she got like a a

Sarah (Baptist)cross on her don't split like that >> on her neck like that was like a fake tattoo. And she said that she would SD for Jesus. I kid you not. When I saw

Sarah (Baptist)that episode and I saw that, I paused it and I went on a 2hour walk just so I was just very very upset. I went on a

Sarah (Baptist)2-hour walk because she no one should ever say anything like that. And it'd be according to scripture if anything causes you to stumble, it's better to you for you to cut off your

Sarah (Baptist)hands and your feet than to do that. And in her case, it'd be better for her if she ripped out her tongue and her her vocal cords and never said anything ever again

Sarah (Baptist)>> unless she repents because God is a very holy God and that's not okay. It's not going to fly. >> Okay. So, I'm just wondering why it got you so upset. >> Like, what's happening in your life that's making you so upset about what

Sarah (Baptist)someone says online? >> Because it's Christ. >> Yeah. No, I get that, baby. But it's >> I'm not a baby. >> Okay. So the thing is you said

Sarah (Baptist)>> if you love someone if you love someone like really really love them are you going to be okay with things marring their name? No. >> Nothing's maring his name here. So my

Sarah (Baptist)breast you were saying yeah it's a it's a um oxymoron to have your breast showing and across sitting on top of it. That's an oxymoron. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. So >> I have something to say when y'all done.

Summer>> One second. One second. Got you. >> Yeah. So this top. Yeah. >> You may not think it's offensive, but it is. >> Da, please. >> You're cut. >> If you were wearing this top, your tits would be >> I wouldn't wear that.

Summer>> Yeah. Your tits wouldn't be out. That's why they're not big enough. So they're not going to come out. >> And I'm okay with the way that God created my breast. And I know like if I was to put myself on a scale, I'd rate myself a number five because I'm overweight. >> Oh, you're such a top fan of this show.

SummerI love that. >> Can you let her speak? You're being reallyending. like she's like the nicest one here and you're like >> getting cut off is okay then. >> Yeah, I've I've been cut off a lot of times. >> Thank you, Chloe. I'm used to backlash.

SummerI can handle it. >> Um, so I have a a condition where my boobs grow. They're going to show. My bibs are going to show. I'm not going to wear a turtleneck because it doesn't flatter my figure. I care what I look like. So, I'm not going to do that.

SummerThat's absolutely fine if it offends you. I'm really sorry that it does offend you, but that's not my problem. Like if you were to wear this. >> No. What what I'm saying is that it offends God.

Madam Houston>> A baby, I don't think it does. >> I don't think he cares. >> That's not going to help you when you stand before him on judgment day. >> Tell your mic down. >> All right. Go ahead. Say what you have to say. >> Thank you. I have two points to make.

Madam HoustonOne to you, Miss Tattoos. >> My name is Chloe. >> Chloe. Gotcha. >> So, you said something about porn addiction and stuff like that. I'm not familiar with no porn stats. I mean, I think that's pretty weird to keep up

Madam Houstonwith in the first place. But you talking about people are obsessed with porn. I don't think nobody's sitting in front of their phone whining about a nut they just had. I think they'd be more relieved. And second off, you so worried

Madam Houstonabout her titties, so you're giving them the power that you soal she shouldn't have in the first place. So, you're basically contradicting yourself cuz why are you paying attention to her titties in the first place? >> I think that's weird, too. You guys have

Madam Houstonbeen talking about her boobs for like the past even before we started the show. >> Offended. You keep cutting me off. I'm talking. >> Go for it. >> Thank you. That's all I have to say. >> Um, also I wasn't talking about my boobs. You guys swear. Like I can't control this.

Madam Houston>> If I'm going to talk about her boobs, I'm going to talk about her boobs. But don't be offended when you're talking about her boobs. Don't bring something up that offend you. And if it does offend you, be able to talk about it like a mature adult. >> So, I can't control the size of them.

SummerI've never been able to control the size of them. They're just going to keep growing anyway. So, >> wear wear a poncho or something then. >> I really don't want to, you know. >> Hey, you you got God on them. You got God on speed dial. Let's call him real

Madam Houstonquick. Ask if it's called what God applies. Prayer. And then one thing about you as a Christian, you sitting here judging her. Is it in the Bible to not judge anybody? >> There's a book in the Bible named

Alyssa (Harvard)Judges. There's a whole book in the Bible named you a Christian. >> Hey, I can take whatever you're going to throw at us. >> I'm going to take your Christian card. I do want to ask you a question just in relation to your faith because it you do

Alyssa (Harvard)identify as Christian and not necessarily Catholicism. Um I know you are not a full-fledged Catholic but that is >> the faith that you are currently subscribing to. So as Catholics we

Alyssa (Harvard)believe that salvation is achieved not only through >> belief in Christ that he is our Lord and Savior but through our actions. Uh however the reason that Protestantism even came about was because Martin

Alyssa (Harvard)Luther separated from the Catholic Church over that belief as well as other grievances. So as a Christian, as a Baptist, I believe, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, that you believe faith

Alyssa (Harvard)and or you believe that salvation is achieved through faith in Christ alone as stated >> by faith through grace. Yes. >> In John 3:16. So >> there's a lot more to the Bible though

Alyssa (Harvard)than John 16. She's not done talking. >> But if salvation is achieved through belief in Christ and accepting Jesus as

Sarah (Baptist)your Lord and Savior, don't you think that she can be forgiven when she stands before Christ only if you repent? That doesn't mean you just keep going on and on in your sin thinking that he's just

Sarah (Baptist)going to let us all slide. That's not how it works. You can't keep living like a devil while you're uh claiming to be Christian. That's not how That's not how it works. >> Can I ask you a question? >> Go for it.

Sarah (Baptist)>> Are you a virgin? >> I've been said and I have no further comment on that. >> I was asking if you're if you're a virgin. Have you had sex before marriage? >> Unfortunately, I know what you're trying

Sarah (Baptist)to do, but unfortunately I was drugged and drugged and essay by a gang that sex willingly. That's a simple question. >> It's it's been torment. It's been torment for me every single day to try to forgive those men. It's it's hell

Brian Atlasevery single day. >> Let me parse this a little bit. Uh we're going to for the sake of the conversation, we're going to grant that essay would not be >> losing your virginity. She's then asking, "Have you had consensual sex?"

Brian Atlas>> Willingly. >> Oh, that's so good for you. Um do you wear two different types of fabric >> against Do you hold on, stop? We're getting way too theological here. Um

Chloe Romawe're going to continue on with the introductions. Can I actually respond because she said something to me I just didn't get a chance to >> Okay, make it quick, please. >> Um uh I'm well versed on stats with uh porn

Chloe Romaaddiction because it just relates to what I do for a living. Um and in regards to being like, "Well, nobody nuts and thinks like, "Oh, that was so awful." It's it's called an addiction, right? Like usually when you're doing cocaine, for example, you're going to

Chloe Romatake that rip and you're going to be like, "Yeah, I feel great." Um, but there are serious uh implications in your life because of it. So, it's like it's called an addiction. You're maybe not familiar with it, but porn

Chloe Romaaddictions like destroy relationships. They destroy men. There are a ton of women that got stuck in relationships with men with porn addictions. It's incredibly prevalent. >> Can I say one thing about that? >> I think the porn >> I will say I I definitely agree that

Violetporn addiction is a huge problem. Of course, it is like any addiction. But I think that we should be careful about centering that problem around the women that do the uh that do produce the content rather than the industries that

Madam Houstonmake it possible. >> Correct? Because if so-called nobody watching porn but everybody got a porn addiction. So how can both things be true? And I don't think it's porn that's the problem. It's the people that watch the porn that are the problem. So don't

Chloe Romamake it about the porn. Make it about the people. I just don't think it's reasonable to be like, "Yeah, I hate the heroin addict, but I'm going to excuse the person selling the heroin." >> Do you think you have a tattoo addiction? >> No, I don't.

Summer>> You got lots of tattoos, babe. I do. >> Tattooing is an addiction also. >> Yeah. Everything can be an addiction. >> Like correlations with like self harm addictions. I'm just unsure what your point is.

Summer>> So, do you have to um do you do you have a tattoo addiction? No. Do you think what's the difference between wanting to actually physically hurt yourself and just off?

Chloe Roma>> Are we deflecting right now? >> I'm not. I have tattoos. Okay. >> Cuz I'm just unsure what the correlation is there. >> I just want to know where like the whole hatred towards one certain thing is.

Chloe Roma>> I never said that I hated anything. I merely you you're sitting over here and saying, "Well, God loves me," which I'm sure he does, right? because um I'm not hurting anybody and I'm merely telling you. I would love to have my phone

Chloe Romabecause I have some pretty shocking. You should know it off the top of your head. >> I'm actually just >> you got to come prepared, baby. >> Okay. Anyways, I'm challenging your belief and letting you know that

Chloe Romastatistics from all over the world, US, Australia, UK, Canada, um are showing otherwise. And because of the increase in the last 5 years with the popularity of Only Fans, there's more and more

Alyssa (Harvard)studies coming out. So the knowledge is uh very new and very accurate despite your belief. >> That's it. >> May I ask you a question? >> Of course. >> But only because I'm curious. So you've

Alyssa (Harvard)been a Christian or attending Catholic church for a long time, but your decision to engage in the Only Fans content is relatively new. It's you've

Alyssa (Harvard)only been doing that for a year. So >> as somebody that has been active in the church and learning more about Christ, what led you to Only Fans, was it a

Summerfinancial decision? Was it a what made you want to do that as you're simultaneously following Christ? >> So I used to work in restaurants. My parents own a bunch of restaurants, so I used to work in them. And I would get

Summersexually harassed daily anyway because obviously I have huge, massive boobs. Um, and even when I did wear a turtleneck or as you would like a poncho, as even when I did cover them, I still got sexually harassed, you know,

Summercover them. >> So, I cannot cover them. Um, so I was like, you know what? Maybe I could just play on this and make this my job. If it's going to happen either way, I'm just going to make it my job. And then,

Summerso a little backstory also, I used to want to get a reduction. I didn't want them. I hated my boobs. I hated my body. I hated everything about it. I didn't. And then as soon as I had Only Fans and

Brian AtlasI realized that like I get graduate. >> All right, moving on. Introduction. Uh, so you're you're any college or anything? >> Hold on. Any college? >> College. >> College.

Brian Atlas>> Oh, yeah. We do university. But yeah, I have an art degree. >> Just art. >> A fine art and portfolio. >> Fine art degree. Okay. And you're from Scotland? >> I'm from Scotland. Well, >> can you say what city or?

Brian Atlas>> Glasgow. >> Glasgow. That's the capital. >> No, it's Edinburgh. >> Oh, right. But Glasgow is the >> Glasgow is a better city for sure. >> That's It's the most populous city. >> No, it's still Edinburgh. But >> it's still Okay. All right. Well, I'm

Brian Atlasnot a [ __ ] >> Glasco is the best though to be fair. >> All right. And um can we hear you say uh a quote from Braveheart?

SummerSomebody asked me >> uh something our freedom or what is it? >> Can you just freedom? >> What one? I don't know. >> They will take our They will take our lives, but they will never take our freedom.

Britney>> That was amazing. Thank you. >> Thanks. Not even. Um, >> hi, my name is Britney. I'm from Orange County, California, and um, my primary,

Britneyum, career is I'm in sports and mental health, um, nutrition, and recently back in, um, doing some forms of sex work, uh, with Playboy. Uh, and age

Brian Atlas>> I am 40 years old. >> 40. Okay. And you used to do tradition what what's it called? Like traditional porn or whatever. >> Like mainstream porn. >> Yeah. Long time ago. Yeah. Long time

Britneyago. >> I recently kind of got back into um doing like Playboy and then um >> What do you do on Playboy or what's that? >> Posing. Just nude.

Britney>> Okay. And then um as far as Only Fans goes, it's similar in the sense of posing nude. And as far as you, I want to say this to you, be smart. If you're going to do this, be smart. Make a plan

Britneyand get out as soon as possible. >> Okay? >> Because I started in the sex industry at a very, very young age. And I did not I didn't have a mentor. I didn't have anybody to show me the ropes. And as she

Britneywas talking about how there's an addiction to it, you get addicted to the fast money and the quick life. And next thing I knew, I was boom, it was like

Britneywhat 10, 12 years. And I didn't have a plan. So when it came to me wanting to transition, it was a very traumatic experience because it was so hard because I got accustomed to that world

Britneyand it definitely played a toll on my mental health. So, I would say if you're going to do this, make a plan for yourself and stick to that plan and then >> for sure an exit plan.

Summer>> I definitely have one and I definitely have a lot of people in the industry. Um, I'm like baby in the industry and all my friends are not babies in the industry. So, I definitely have people looking out for me. >> Absolutely. Because you're still very young. >> Yes. So, >> Oh my god. Who the hell?

Britney>> Sorry. >> Nick, why did you press that, bro? >> What was your name? What was your name again? >> My name is Britney. >> Britney. Uh, any college? Yes. Um well, a little bit going back almost 20 years.

BritneyUm a journalism major with a minor in communications and then from where? >> Um Cal State Fullerton. >> Okay. >> Which is in Orange County, California.

BritneyAnd then um as of recent um I have my sports medicine certification and then um also a background in cognitive behavioral neuroscience which I went

Britneyahead and went into a little bit later on due to my son's autism diagnosis. Oh, you have a kid. >> I do. >> Gotcha. Okay. >> All right. Uh, what about you?

Jenny (UK)>> Hello, my name is Jenny. I'm 26. I also do Only Fans and I do pro shoots and I have >> When you say pro shoots, what does that mean? >> Like professional >> porn. >> Okay.

Brian Atlas>> Sorry, I just used >> That's fine. You're go ahead. >> 26. Where you from? >> I'm from Manchester in the UK. >> Okay. >> And I have a degree in criminology and sociology. >> A degree in sociology. Which university? >> And criminology?

Brian Atlas>> Uh, Sheffield >> University. >> Yes. >> Okay. Uh, so is it like here in the US we have double major? >> So did you whatever the equivalent is? >> I think so. Yeah. Yeah, I think so.

Jenny (UK)>> Okay. Did you do any work in either of those fields? >> No, I went straight to Only Fans when I was 18. I'm >> Is uh university free in the UK? >> No, you have to pay. >> How much is it? >> God, I don't know. >> Do you do you have student loans or do

Brian Atlasyou >> Yeah. You have student loans? Yeah. But I don't Do you still have any? >> Yeah, I pay it back with my tax every year. >> You pay it back? Okay. Uh just curious. You got at least one of your degrees was in criminology, one in

Brian Atlas>> sociology. >> Sociology. Uh can you tell me maybe like two or three things you learned about sociology that you can just relay to us? >> No. >> Okay. What about criminology? Two or

Jenny (UK)three things you learned. Um, we just really learned about criminal behavior and I found it really interesting to learn about different people's behaviors. I'm very into how people react. Sorry. >> Nothing about sociology though that you could

Brian Atlas>> I didn't really enjoy it to be fair. I wish I didn't do it. >> Did you Were you awarded a degree? >> Yes. >> What What's the >> I got a first class honors degree. >> And that would that be an equivalent of like a bachelor's degree in the United States? >> I'm not sure how your education system

Brian Atlasworks. >> Yes. Well, I guess to break it down, we have like high school. People graduate at 18 and then they go off to college or university. Typically, a university is four years and then they get what's called a bachelor's degree after four

Brian Atlasyears typically. Then the step up after that would be a master's degree. I believe that's another two or three years. It can vary. And then PhD, that would be like doctorate level. That's couple more years also. So, I'm assuming you're the equivalent for you would be

Jenny (UK)like >> Yeah. >> How long were you in school for? four years. >> So you got you got a masters or a bachelor's. >> We go to college too. So >> Oh, you go to college first. >> But isn't college high school? >> No. >> No, it's different in the UK. So we do

Jenny (UK)primary school, secondary school, college, and then university. >> College is from what age to what age? >> 18 to >> It doesn't It's not really age. Um college, >> but you graduate.

Brian Atlas>> You can go at 16 or you can go at 18. It does. There's no like cap. I see. >> But you have to stay in education till you're until you're 16. >> So you did higher higher education for a period of four years or six years.

Brian Atlas>> Uh six. >> So two years in college, four years in university. >> Yes. >> I see. And you have been awarded Sorry, what was the name of the degree? >> It's a first class honors degree >> in criminal justice or

Jenny (UK)>> criminology and social >> criminology. >> And you can't tell me one thing. So I actually have a memory loss issue that I've been um diagnosed with. So >> at what age?

Brian Atlas>> When I was 18. So when I went to university cuz I got diagnosed with dyslexia. >> Why why go to university if you're just going to forget everything you learned? >> I am a smart person. So >> well there's no I'm not making any

Jenny (UK)disputes or claims as to your intellect. I'm just simply asking >> why if you were learning >> even if I have to forget all of it. >> Yeah. >> I university taxpayer subsidized in the

Jenny (UK)UK. >> Well, I'm a taxpayer now, so I pay it back. No, >> it's your tax dollars at work. >> Not really. >> When did you graduate? When did you graduate from >> Oh, when I was So, I graduated when it

Brian Atlaswas co time. >> Well, you're 26. >> Yeah. >> And you said Okay. >> Four years ago. >> Wait, wait, but you started uh college at 18. >> Yes. Yeah. So,

Jenny (UK)>> and then you did two years of college, >> but the issue is because of the COVID, we didn't have graduation. So, technically, I wasn't graduated until I walked down and accepted it. >> When did you graduate?

Brian Atlas>> 20 >> from college? >> No, university. >> I'm confused at what you're confused about to be honest. >> 2020 would have been 5 years ago. You would have been 21 when you graduated. But you said college is two years.

Brian AtlasUniversity is four years. >> She goes to college when she was 16. Okay. >> Sorry, I don't know how you >> But in any case, you have a degree. >> First, >> I did want to be a probation officer.

Brian Atlas>> And you can't tell me one thing you learned. >> I mean, I don't think it's really that interesting. Karl Marx isn't that interesting to me. >> They teach communism and soci. >> Yeah. >> You read the communist manifesto, Karl

Jenny (UK)Marx? >> I didn't read it. No, but we had a lot of articles. Yeah. What's is there anything you remember about sociology that you can relate? >> It's not really that important now to me. So, no.

Brian Atlas>> Okay. Oh man, I don't know. >> I don't understand why that's >> Is college a scam? Is it kind of a scam? Because I can still use it in my >> Well, you have the piece of paper that says you were here at these whatever.

Brian Atlas>> I can still continue with But like what actual palpable like thing are you bringing to the workforce in terms of >> because I'm a very kind and caring person. >> Yeah. But you could have those traits absent. Can >> you let me finish please?

Brian Atlas>> Well, hold on. You can have those traits absent going to college. You can be a kind person and have dropped out of third grade. >> Of course. But we can't drop out third grade here in the UK.

Jenny (UK)>> That's immaterial to my point. Whether you went to college or not and the degree you got or not has nothing to do with one's kindness. >> No, I didn't say it was. I'm just saying your point was why do you not continue with it? Is that not your point?

Brian Atlas>> You made the claim that well I'm very kind and that's what I bring to the workforce. >> Yes, I'm trying to explain but you >> but I was asking okay you went to university. You went to college. >> Yes, I did.

Chloe Roma>> You didn't take there wasn't [ __ ] kindness 101. There wasn't good feels. >> I didn't say there was. >> Right. But I was >> I don't understand your point. What he's asking is if you got this degree but you

Chloe Romadon't remember anything about it, if you wanted to enter into that workforce, what do you bring to the workforce? And your answer was kindness. I think he's looking for a different answer. >> Well, he could have been a bit more clearer, but I would say cuz I wanted to

Jenny (UK)be a probation officer, so you needed to go into another full year of education to complete that. >> Look, I we've had a lot of people >> I wouldn't wouldn't go back to university and I wouldn't have done my

Jenny (UK)degree. that wasn't the choice that I wanted personally. It was my family's choice and I just went with what they wanted and that's not what I wanted. So that's why I have not continued with that.

Summer>> Right. I get I understand that people have different interests in >> I think in the UK it's like when you're

Brian Atlas16 you're told to decide what you want to do. So it's really hard for a 16-year-old to decide what you want to do when you're older. >> Yeah, I get that. I get that people have different uh interests in going to college. Some people do it just to do

Brian Atlasit. Some people are actually genuinely there to learn. >> But I always find it fascinating regardless of the motivations or reasons. >> I find when we do have people who have gotten degrees in various fields come on

Brian Atlasthe show, even if they've graduated in re recently and I simply just ask them, okay, well, can you tell me like one or two things you learned? They can't tell me anything. >> So, she has a memory issue. She said,

Brian Atlas>> "Well, yeah, but I mean these other people who I also pose this question to, there's no assertion that they have memory issues." So, it just always, it kind of amazes me. People go to university, but they can't even like

Jenny (UK)>> dictate back to me one, two, hold on. One, two, or three things that they've learned. Go ahead. >> It's just I think this is a very intimidating Sorry. This is a very intimidating setup. So, people can just

Jenny (UK)forget like when you ask them straight off. So you have to kind of take into account that >> because this is quite intimidating for a lot of people. >> Well, hold on. Is it the memory loss issues? >> No, I'm just talking about the other people, not not from my point of view. That's just that you're saying other

Brian Atlaspeople. >> Well, yeah, sure. I I realize that in certain situations, you're not going to have perfect recall of like every single thing that you're going to learn. But >> it would occur to me if you have a

Brian Atlasdegree from a university and the degree is essentially communicating to the outside world and employers. I have some proficiency in this particular thing. If somebody were to ask ask you, okay,

Brian Atlascan you tell me like one thing about it? Like they could maybe list off like one thing. >> Yeah, I understand that. But you're not employing me, so I don't see why you >> Yeah, but that's not the justification. >> Well, it's mine. So,

Brian Atlas>> well, hold on. Now you're just shifting the goalpost here. Now you're saying, "Well, Brian, I'm not going to relay the information that I do know because you're not actually here to >> I don't really think it's that interesting." So, I would >> I agree with you. So, sociology

Madam Houstondefinitely is not >> why I didn't want to do it. So, I just did it at college and then >> love it. All right, moving on. What about you? >> Hello, I'm Madam Houston. Where I'm from in the name, what I do is in the game.

Madam HoustonI'm 23 years old and I got a BA in psychology. >> Uh, from where? >> Texas Southern University. >> And you said you're 28. >> No, 23. >> Oh, 23. Okay, >> you heard me. I see you got your line up

Brian Atlasfor me today. You're looking good. You're looking sharp. >> The [ __ ] Okay. Yes. I got my haircut just for you. >> I I told my barber um uh a woman's going to be on What is it? I should Can I Am I allowed to say CPT?

Brian Atlas>> Yeah, you can say CPT. >> Can I say CPT? You said CPT. >> Of course. >> Do you give me the CPT pass? >> I'll give you the CPT pass. >> Thank you. Thank you. Uh thank you for the granting the CPT pass. Um I told my

Brian Atlasbarber, "Look, I got to look really sharp because this this uh woman's going to be CPT." >> Uhhuh. And I got to make sure I if I'm going to rebuke her that

Alyssa (Harvard)>> you got to look good. Correct. >> I can't be looking all disheveled and >> correct. Early. >> What about you? >> Uh my name is Alyssa. I'm 30 years old. I'm originally from Massachusetts.

Alyssa (Harvard)That's >> where I was born and raised. Uh but I currently live in Texas and I travel a good bit for my job. I'm a professional piano bar entertainer as well as an

Alyssa (Harvard)entrepreneur. I own a few businesses and I have a bachelor's degree from Harvard University in government and I have a master's degree in entertainment and

Brian Atlasmusic business and management from the University of Miami. >> Could you go >> and sorry, what was the degree you got from Harvard? >> Government. >> Government. Okay. And you so you you're a professional piano player. Are you a

Brian Atlasvirtuoso? >> I suppose that would be a matter of opinion. >> Okay. And you also, I don't know if you mentioned this, you were Miss Massachusetts 2016. >> Yes, sir. >> Miss America top 15.

Brian Atlas>> Yes. >> All right. And uh you went to Harvard. And you do have a piano with you here. >> I do. >> Uh we're going to finish the intros, but then we'll have you do a little a little diddy. >> All right. Wonderful.

Alyssa (Harvard)>> Wait, hold on. >> A did two T's. >> Diddy. >> Not diddy. Diddy. >> Diddy. Right. Is that That's the right word, right? A little diddy. >> Diddy. like a little diddy,

Brian Atlaswhatever. Okay. >> Uh, we'll have you do a little something if you want to start getting it kind of ready while I have the rest of the panelists intro themselves. >> Uh, >> what about you?

Sarah (Baptist)>> I'm Sarah. Um, single, 31, and I'm a nobody. I don't really have any degrees or anything like that. Um, I went to Bible college for a few years. Um

Sarah (Baptist)thankfully other people in the church donated money to my tuition cuz I could barely afford to eat at the time. And I took um child development um at West Hills Lmore College. Um but I dropped

Sarah (Baptist)out because of my father passed away. Um longest relationship I've ever been in. It was about two and a half years or so. Um I've lived all over California, Northern, Southern, and Central Valley.

Sarah (Baptist)Um and I currently live in Hanford, California. All right. Uh, what about you?

Chloe Roma>> Name, age. Same. Oh, yeah. Name, age, location, occupation, education. >> Okay. Uh, my name is Khloe Roma. I'm from Calgary, Alberta, Canada. I am 28

Chloe Romayears old, international men's rights advocate, and my postsecondary is, uh, funeral services and inbombing and, uh, addictions and disabilities with a specialization in fetal alcohol spectrum

Brian Atlasdisorder. All right, welcome back. Good to good to have you. No, that's not boring. >> I mean, you already said I could have bombed you when you died, so I'm do that. >> There we go. It's It's contractually uh

Brian Atlasum so I'm wondering it's Is it good to go? >> Oh, it can be. Absolutely. >> Yeah, it's on. All right. Can I have So, what we're going to do What you're going to do,

Brian Atlasactually, no. I'm going to what I'm going to have you do that mic if you can kind of like you're going to kind of just like keep your hand on it and like tilt it down towards the piano. >> Do you want two? >> No, I Sorry. I was demonstrating it for >> Oh, it's like >> too close.

Brian Atlas>> Too close. >> That's good. >> Too loud. >> Maybe lower it. Lower it. >> That's good. I think that should be good. [Music] >> You need like a uh >> Go for it. Do you want to What do you want to play?

Madam Houston>> You ever heard of Two Chains I'm Different? Like that intro. >> Wait, can you do uh what's that? >> Hey. >> Yeah, I get it. >> On a beat. >> Can you do that? Uh

Alyssa (Harvard)>> I can play like some like rag time for you. Do you like rag time? >> Uh Joplin. Scott Joplin. Sure. >> Sure, we can do that.

Brian AtlasHey, >> can you do a maple leaf frag? >> That was That was maple. >> Oh, sorry. The entertainer. My bad. Can you do the entertainer? [Music]

Brian AtlasYeah. Yeah.

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Brian AtlasThat was actually so good. >> That was good. Maybe one more. One more. Should we let the chat decide? Let me see if the chat wants to uh >> H >> do Oh, Canada. No, just kidding.

Brian Atlas>> Can you do the uh who? Wait. Oh my I can't believe I'm blanking on. >> Contemporary top 40 pop rock. >> Who produced? Who was the producer? I can't believe I'm blanking on his name.

Brian AtlasWho was the producer? Dr. Dre. Uh what? >> Um >> still Dre. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Alyssa (Harvard)[Music] >> I don't I don't do that one, but I can do some other Dr. Dre. >> You don't know that that one? >> I I I would have to hear it. And >> do do Wait, how does it go? Anybody know?

Brian Atlas>> Beethoven symph symphony.

Brian AtlasIt's definitely >> You're getting there. You're getting there.

Alyssa (Harvard)>> Yeah, that's pretty much that's kind of it. Uh >> the the doctor, >> you know what would be fun that I do

Alyssa (Harvard)well is I sing and play and rap all of Forget About Dre. That's one of my favorite party tricks. >> You you know, you ever seen those standup comedians? Well, that they'll have like a a bass player or something.

Brian AtlasWho does that? Like Kill Tony, they'll have he'll have like a band in the background. We should have like I should have a band >> in the whatever podcast when somebody says something ridiculous and they like play some music or whatever. So maybe

Brian Atlasshows. That's >> Yeah, we're going to hire you. Um well, thank you for playing something for us. >> Appreciate it. >> Pretty good. >> Maybe we'll have her do a >> what what's it called? A uh another

Brian Atlas>> It's the French term. Oh my god. Why am I blanking on when somebody encore Thank you. Why am I blanking on these terms? All right. Uh, so, okay, that's everybody's intro. We got a couple chats, then we're going to continue on,

Brian Atlasget into the actual content of the show. John Oor, use those I Oh my god, am I going to read this? Okay, use, by the way, our su

Brian Atlasour uh Streamyard super chat thing got fixed, so that's nice. Use those tatas to crush a beer can on live stream. Do it. Okay, that's probably not going to

Brian Atlashappen. John, >> I could do it. Uh ah [ __ ] I just did you see that Nick? >> Yeah >> here. Uh okay that's below the threshold. Van thank you for the soup chat. Appreciate it man. All right if

Brian Atlasyou guys want to get a readin it's 100 and we can now do it again kind through YouTube but anything above that TTS's has to come in streamlabs.com

Brian Atlaswhatever $200 TTS VMCA app whatever pod Twitch blah blah blah all that other stuff. And then we have a message here from One sec.

Brian AtlasMimi. Oh my. One sec. Lagging here. Hello. [ __ ] reload. All right. Mimi. Sex

Brian Atlasworkers. How do you feel knowing others are being forced into trafficking and you have free will doing it for shits and giggles and money? Okay. It's under the threshold. What? It was 100.

Britney>> No, Reed. Reed is 100. TTS is 200. >> That was a question for you guys. Yeah, >> I would be happy to answer this question. Um, as somebody who is heavily

Britneyin the business, like heavy heavy before, um, how do I feel about that? I think that it's it's it's terrible. It's horrendous and it's part of one of the

Britneyhuge reasons why I'm for closing of the borders. Um, another thing is is I, you know, do I believe that sex work is just something to just do just because?

BritneyAbsolutely not. Like I mentioned before, if you're going to do it, do it right. Make a plan and get the hell out because it will absolutely play a nasty toll on your mental health, on your whole I mean

Britneybecause of what it does for the dopamine release neurologically. You get hooked on that and then everything thereafter is highly affected. But are the two connected? I don't believe that they are.

Brian Atlas>> Agreed. >> However, if you're going to do it, you're going to you need to do it right and get the hell out. >> Uh question for you actually. Absolutely. Um >> I noticed in your Instagram bio. Uh are

Brian Atlasyou a Christian? >> I am. >> Okay. Because I saw you had like a Bible verse. >> Ephesians 2:8, >> which is what? What is that? >> Ephesians 2:8. Through grace I was saved. >> Gotcha. So, you're a Christian? >> I am.

Britney>> What denomination? >> Nonom non-denominational. My grandmother um practiced hardcore Catholicism and that's how my father was raised. And then growing up um I just we went to a non-denominational church. Um I

Britneycurrently do not attend church. I have not found one in Los Angeles that how do I say this? That I feel comfortable at that I feel a connection

Britneyto. A lot of the ones in Los an Los Angeles have become very culty. Um, however,

BritneyI practice it in my everyday lifestyle as a parent, as a friend, as a partner. Um, however, I am aware that things such

Brian Atlasas Playboy are sinning. >> Well, that's what I was about to ask is, >> you know, you have a Bible verse in your bio. >> Absolutely. >> You're a Christian. I guess I also pose the question to you. You're you're

Brian Atlasactively like the number one pinned thing on your Instagram is a Playboy shoot or something and uh I just >> Yeah, for the release for Yeah. October

Britney1st. No, >> how do you reconcile producing risque content with being a Christian? >> So, that's a great question. Um because

BritneyI'm well aware of my actions. Um, and not to justify it, um, not too long ago, I had to make a tough choice as far as, uh, being a mom and taking care of

Britneyfamily. I was working in sports medicine full-time, and unfortunately, the clinic that I was working for destroyed me

Britneyfinancially, put me in such extreme debt that it kind of was like, okay, I need to make a choice. What am I going to do?

BritneyAnd like I said before, you know, when you do it for so long and you don't do it right, it becomes a problem. So, you know, I went to a place that was familiar cuz I was like, "Okay, I need to get out of debt. I have a family to

Brian Atlastake care of while doing that." Is it a sin? Yes, it is. 1,000% it is. >> Wait, you the place you were working at put you into debt? As in >> So, I was I was completely out of the

Britneyadult industry at this time. um the sports medicine clinic that I was working for back in 23. Um it >> but I'm I'm a bit confused. Typically

Britneywhen you're working for a place >> so the owner completely did not pay me. >> Okay. um come to find out that there was a ton

Britneyof fraud going on in the company and um I had to pull away and I had dedicated

Britneymy time, my savings to traveling back and forth from um Los Angeles to Vegas. And you know what? I have no regrets because it was an experience. It gave me

Sarah (Baptist)an opportunity. Then with that, then I had to redirect a little bit. >> Okay, I see. So kind of a lost investment there a little bit. >> Just real quick. Sorry. >> Absolutely. >> So you keep saying like to do it the

Britneyright way, to do it the right way, to do there is no right way with that. >> I and you know what? I agree with you 100%. But if if there's going to be someone to do it, I'm not I'm not the one to judge and say get the hell out.

BritneyYou're going to destroy your life, but make a plan. And I'm saying this as somebody as a 40-year-old woman who was in the business for a really long time before I retired and I did not do it

Britneycorrectly and I dug myself a huge hole and it played a huge toll on my mental health. So when I say do it the right way, make

Brian Atlasa plan, make a savings, do not be stupid. Do not be stupid. And first and foremost, pay attention to your mental health and the company you keep. Well, I got to pose the same question to you

Madam Houstonthat I posed to her, which is, do you think that God wants you posing for poor boy? >> Absolutely not. >> I think that >> so you will sin. >> I think there is a right way to do it. Most girls, they get into the game and

Madam Houstonthey do it by themselves and they let that take over emotionally and it's just because they don't have possibly somebody taking care of them emotionally. So, I always recommend don't do it by yourself. It's a right

Madam Houstonway to do everything and it's never it's not wrong that you show your body off. It's just how most girls get into the game and they do it because they running away from the life that they got and not

Madam Houstonbecause they want to be in the life that they getting into. So just remember that before you, you know, make a decision to mess up your life because you don't necessarily mess up your life because you do sex work. You mess up your life by doing it the wrong way. Maybe have a

Madam Houstonteam when you're doing it. Have like some type of, you know, back backbone that, you know, somebody can stand up for you or just It's a lot of options. >> Just don't do it. >> It's a lot of options. Going back to this.

Britney>> Yeah. No, absolutely. Do I think it's Is it Christianike? Absolutely not. If I had a daughter, would I tell her would I want her to do this and would I justify it? >> Hell no. >> But if she wanted to, you'd have to make sure.

Britney>> Well, if she wanted to, I would redirect her in a different direction because absolutely not. Absolutely not. Because at the end of the day, it it creates a stigma mentally. And then it's like when

Britneyit comes to relationships, when it comes to um your bond, just the toll it plays on your neurological health is very damaging. So if I had a daughter and she

Britneywanted to do this, I would sit her ass down and I'm like, absolutely the [ __ ] not. Excuse my French. >> It only affects relationships if you choosing the wrong person to be with. >> Yes, agreed.

Madam Houston>> Like it'll still it'll still affect the relationship. things. >> Most girls who are only fans, they get they have a boyfriend. Later down the line, they get fetishized by being strippers, by being hoes, but when they

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