Debate RAGE QUIT/She Is SUING?! 150 IQ Ivy League Feminist vs. Andrew Wilson | Whatever Debates #19
Date: 2025-05-18
Duration: 3h 39m
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00Kylie Brewer(guest)
SPEAKER_04Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
Key Moments
00:00:00
IntroBrian introduces debate: Andrew Wilson vs Kylie Brewer (Brown University, claimed IQ ~150)
00:13:30
ControversyKylie walks away after Andrew says 'you don't have your TikTok mute button, sweetheart'
00:59:25
Key MomentAndrew presents Force Doctrine. Kylie concedes: 'Currently in the patriarchal society, yes [women appeal to men for safety].'
01:24:45
QuoteKylie claims IQ approximately 150
02:23:00
Key MomentKylie concedes pillar 2 of feminism 'is not really about choice' when tested with gun rights
02:29:00
OtherRAGE QUIT: Kylie leaves permanently. Brian offers double fee. Andrew holds up 'I WIN' notepad.
Topics Discussed
00:00:00
Opening Statements
Kylie cites wage gap, WHO violence stats. Andrew attacks McKenzie study replication failure.
00:13:30
First Walkout Threat
Kylie walks away after Andrew says 'you don't have your TikTok mute button, sweetheart.'
00:19:00
DV and SA Statistics
Contested stats: WHO 1-in-3 vs NIS showing 68% maltreated children harmed by females.
00:59:25
Force Doctrine
Andrew's Force Doctrine: women's rights derive from men's physical supremacy. Kylie concedes women appeal to men for safety.
02:10:00
Four Pillars of Feminism
Kylie presents 4 feminist pillars. Andrew debunks pillar 2 (expand choice) using gun rights contradiction.
02:29:00
Final Rage Quit
Kylie leaves permanently. Brian offers double fee. She says she'd cry for triple. Andrew holds up 'I WIN' notepad.
02:36:55
Post-Debate Commentary
Brian and Andrew analyze the rage quit. Book recommendations. Champagne for $1K donation.
Transcript
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02:57:03
SPEAKER_05$69. The only thing $150 about this chick is the weight scale when she I guess this is the roast the roast session. All right.
02:57:15
Brian AtlasUh what do you think about this though? In we could say, and I don't know if this is too little or wouldn't be helpful, but instead of phones, no phones, each person can request to look
02:57:26
Andrew Wilsonup to three uh studies or should there not be? So, the way the way that I always did it was I would always say, take your three best support studies you're going to reference and then send those in before
02:57:39
Andrew Wilsonthe show. I'll send them to the to your debate adversary. He'll send you his. Yeah. then both of you can have your reputations but anything external those reputations are unacceptable. Okay, got it. Does that make sense? Yeah. No, that
02:57:52
Brian Atlasmakes sense. That makes a lot of sense. That's how because my studies come up a lot. Yep. So, what is uh when you're debating somebody, is there an argument like if somebody does
02:58:04
Andrew Wilsonsay, well, where's the study? Isn't there an argument that you can make like I don't need a study? Of course, you can use you can use logical argumentation. You can use uh even intuitive argumentation. You can use all sorts of
02:58:17
Andrew Wilsondifferent arguments. And you can also say, well, it's an appeal to authority. Anyway, the second she said, "You're right. Sociology suffers from a replication crisis. You're right that it's about 60 70%." That's enough
02:58:28
Andrew Wilsonintuitive evidence for us to [ __ ] dismiss anything we're reading. You can imagine if I was like, "Here, this will cure you." 70% chance that it kills you. What would you take the pill? No. No. So
02:58:42
Andrew Wilsonwhy would you believe the study? If I said this is true, but there's a 70% chance it's wrong. Would you bank on the truth of that? No. No. No. No. That's it. No. And didn't you bring this up
02:58:54
Brian Atlasduring the debate debate the replication crisis with a lot of these studies? It's they do the one and then there's a bunch of bias too like they're seeking. So here's Yeah. Yeah. So here's how this works. The problem with the
02:59:06
Andrew Wilsonfalsification of science, and this is not the way science is supposed to be done, by the way. The problem with the falsification is this. If you have like a newer study, especially a sociological study, there's
02:59:20
Andrew Wilsonnothing that's going to come for a while that refutes it or looks at the methodology, that's going to take a while. Usually a year, sometimes two, sometimes three. But because this study hits the market, people reference it.
02:59:31
Andrew WilsonThey then ask this question, where's the reputation to the study? This is what current science tells us. But that's not true. It's not scientific. It's not really scientific at all. And the truth
02:59:43
Andrew Wilsonis is they present that as being evidence knowing that a reputation is likely right around the corner. That's how indoctrination works. That's why so many people know so much that isn't true. I started the debate by pointing
02:59:54
Andrew Wilsonout there's a reputation for this. She made this Tik Tok video not very long ago. I point out the reputation to the study. She didn't even bother to look up the reputation to it that falsified it.
03:00:05
Andrew WilsonSaid that it fell under the replication crisis essentially. And what do we get? We get like, "No, no, no. That's just not true." Well, have you looked at it? Well, no. How do you know it's not true? Well, I don't know. You know what I mean? She never even bothered to look at
03:00:18
Andrew Wilsonher own sources. It's affirming the bias. They always affirm the bias. So, always be careful when somebody says, "Well, here's what the data says." And then it's like a study from two 2023 2024. That's the most that's the most
03:00:31
SPEAKER_05recent, but that doesn't mean it's [ __ ] correct. Uh we have a big uh Z here with a champagne puppet after the
03:00:42
SPEAKER_05donated $1,000. Thank you, man. That's Champagne. Congrats to win, Andrew. And thank you. Enjoy. Do you want I didn't message that. Do you want the I win? Wait, I
03:00:54
Andrew Wilsonthink Should we Should we uh We got to raffle the notepad. You want the I win the big And I'll I'll sign it for you too with your name. Do you want the I
03:01:03
Andrew Wilsonwin notepad? Cuz we'll send it to you. I wish we could have her cope notes though. That would be even better. The cope notes. The cope notes. Yeah, the cope notes from her. Oh, yeah. She left
03:01:16
Andrew Wilsonher little Yeah, that would have been great. There. Oh, you got it, bro. There we go. All right. Brian, can I ask you something? And the audience is dying to know this. What? You've opened like 200
03:01:28
Andrew Wilsonbottles of champagne and you still [ __ ] suck at it. How is that possible? How is it possible? You still 200 and you still suck at it. That was that that was a sub 302. [ __ ]
03:01:40
Brian Atlasridiculous, dude. Look, you know what? You know what's happened? And this is backed up by science. Backed up by science. You're supposed to store champagne bottles on the side. Otherwise, if you store it vertical like
03:01:52
Brian Atlasthis, the cork starts to dry out. Becomes very difficult to open it. And so, you got to wait for me. What the You got to wait for me, Andrew. I was
03:02:02
Brian Atlastesting it to make sure you didn't spoil it. That's backed by science. The latest studies say, so uh that's what's been h that's why it
03:02:14
Brian Atlaswas so difficult to open them. I've now been storing storing them horizontally. So, uh, cheers to you, Andrew. Cheers to Z. Thank you, Z. There's only one way to do this. Cheers. Hang on. Cheers to Hang
03:02:26
Andrew Wilsonon, hang on, hang on. Cheers to the whatever podcast audience. It is through you guys and all of the viewers that all of this is made possible. And I sure hope to God you're having a great time
03:02:38
Andrew Wilsonbecause I'm doing everything I can possibly do to make sure you do. Saloo. Cheers. Even my haters. I couldn't have haters
03:02:48
Brian Atlasif I didn't entertain you too. Got a lot of chats coming through, so I'm gonna get them. Hoop, guys, if you want $69 ttsstreamabs.com/ whatever.
03:02:59
SPEAKER_05Hooplin. Thank you, man. Hoopliner donated $69. Appreciate it. Andrew, if you could recommend two books, one non-fiction, preferably about logic,
03:03:10
Andrew Wilsoncritical thinking, passing out ideas, and one fiction, what would they be? I would recommend Faith of the Fallen as the fictional book by Terry Goodkind.
03:03:20
Andrew WilsonThat's a great one. It's just a It's just a great story. And then the It's a little libertarian for my liking, but I would still get it. And then the first one I would recommend, I believe it's by
03:03:31
Andrew WilsonWill Durant, and it's called The History of Philosophy. It's a fantastic book. Um I've read it a couple of times, and I really like it. Not just because they he goes into the arguments a bit but he goes into why
03:03:44
Andrew Wilsonuh the various philosophers started coming to this through their life experiences which I thought was pretty interesting. We have USMC coming in. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Use
03:03:56
SPEAKER_05donated $69. She was a cheating bos. When she is discovered then she melts. Easy to see. Watch the video. La. You know what's
03:04:07
Brian Atlasinteresting, Andrew, is uh two decades ago when I was in high school, I was on the wrestling team, and there's a there's a strategy that you can employ in wrestling. Uh it's called
03:04:20
Brian Atlasstalling. This is also something that you see in other martial arts, MMA, jiu-jitsu. I think a lot of what she was doing was stalling. She she knew
03:04:31
Brian Atlasprobably pretty quickly that she was outmatched and some of her uh some of her tone policing stuff the you know breaks brakes stalling stalling
03:04:43
Andrew Wilsonbecause she didn't want to actually engage with your arguments and I think that's what a good portion of it was. I don't I don't disagree. I also think though like I don't want you to
03:04:55
Andrew Wilsonundermine or underell because I've dealt with so many feminists this idea of control. You have to understand like think of it from their perspective. They're on Tik Tok and and uh Instagram places like this
03:05:07
Andrew Wilsonwhere they'll have controlled conversations where all opposition is muted, spoken over, dominated. Right here that's not possible. Imagine the panic you would feel.
03:05:20
Andrew WilsonYeah. You know, wait, this person, I can't just mute him. I'm gonna have to actually engage. This is going to make me look [ __ ] terrible. Yep. You know what I mean? That would instill a massive sense of panic in somebody.
03:05:33
Brian AtlasYeah. And how many times, Crucible Crew, have you seen this? These people panic because they actually have to defend the world. It's [ __ ] crazy. Well, I've seen your your Tik Tok invasions and and
03:05:44
Brian AtlasI've participated just, you know, I'll be I I'll have a one or two hours. I'll hop on TikTok and I'll just hop into these always on theudience. You'll get like 10 words in and they're like and
03:05:55
Brian Atlasthen they you they mute you and if you they they mute you and then they just talk talk talk talk talk and then they eventually kick you. the criticism sometimes, you know, that here at the
03:06:06
Brian AtlasWhatever podcast we get some criticisms like, well, you know, you guys uh have kicked people out or you have we have an option where you can mute somebody, which has happened like a dozen times
03:06:17
Brian Atlasmaybe total for people who are super problematic. Oh, it's often used not because somebody is winning an argument, but because they're like literally yelling into the microphone or they're just hogging the Well, but isn't that
03:06:30
Andrew Wilsonkind of like the most diplomatic approach when you think about it? The most diplomatic approach is not to try to shut them down or this or that, but say, "Hey, you know, the show has to make some money and haha, you know, somebody muted your mic." That feels
03:06:42
Brian Atlasvery diplomatic to me. Yeah. You know, and non-abbrasive and and not to mention also because it's a panel show, you know, if one mic is muted, it other people can speak too, which is kind of
03:06:54
Andrew Wilsonthe point. So, uh, but I mean, you've encountered that yourself. You've debated with, uh, Dean and DP. It's been hundreds and hundreds of times the
03:07:03
Andrew Wilsoncrucible crew has run into the problem. Now we have a way in which we deal with it and um usually with those particular people we never have that problem again interestingly enough because there is a
03:07:16
Andrew Wilsonway in which to deal with it but the truth is is that I I'm not going to underell it because I think for sure there is a sense of panic which wells up
03:07:26
Andrew Wilsonwhen the control aspect is gone and you actually have to do the defense aspect. Yep. Got feminist lover here. feminist
03:07:37
SPEAKER_05lava donated $69 150 IQ or BMI. Anyways, got put onto the pod after the recent Jire episodes and got to say you guys are both
03:07:48
Brian Atlasawesome. Keep it up and thanks for the entertainment and wisdom. Of course, thank you feminist lover. Uh interesting name there. Got
03:07:58
SPEAKER_05Spyro. Thank you Spyro. Appreciate it. Spyro the master programmer donated $69. Not only did we witness why a lot of feminists can't actually defend their
03:08:09
SPEAKER_05positions. You also just saw why software/ websites/v video games tech in general has degraded. This thinking is a mind vice. By the way, for because you
03:08:21
Andrew Wilsondon't know this, I know Spyro pretty well. I would actually consider him a buddy. Um, and Spyro has been working behind the scenes kind of tirelessly to expose
03:08:33
Andrew Wilsonwhat's been what's been going on in software, video games with uh the woke mind virus and why that stuff seems like it's so [ __ ] now. Highly recommend his channel. Uh, I think it's called, now
03:08:45
Andrew Wilsonyou can hop in my Discord if I'm wrong about this. I think it's called Spyro Floropolis maybe. Um, but it's it's a great channel and uh he hasn't updated it as much as he should cuz you're
03:08:56
Andrew Wilson[ __ ] lazy, Spyro. But you really should get back on that. Well, I mean, don't they just get into like the HR departments? But I mean, I've seen it. No, no, no. It's things like this. Like you can't say, you know how like you
03:09:07
Brian Atlashave hard drives on your computer? You can't say slave master drive now. Oh yeah. Like [ __ ] I'm not kidding. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Exactly what you're in. Uh the the chat doesn't like
03:09:18
Brian Atlasall my uh World of Warcraft references. But you know what's crazy? So, um, in I think we actually reacted to this on the dating talk. I don't know if you were there. So, it used to be World of
03:09:29
Brian AtlasWarcraft. I came out 2004, 2005, two decades ago, long time ago. The character creation screen, you know, when you create a character in a game or whatever, it used to have the gender symbols, the male or the sex symbols,
03:09:41
Brian Atlasmale, female. They've now there's a bunch of other examples in this game. Blizzard is completely captured, ideologically captured. They've redone a
03:09:50
Brian Atlaslot of their art assets uh in in Hearthstone in uh to make it more homogeneous. They've changed the name of Well, so for the the uh gender symbols,
03:10:02
Brian Atlasthe the sex symbols, they changed it instead from those to like just body type. So there's body type one, body type two, there's no longer male, female, man, woman. Uh they've renamed
03:10:14
Brian Atlasitems like for example there used to be uh Finkele Skinner stupid what it's a and they changed the name because it was a
03:10:24
Brian Atlasreference to the Ace Ventura movie which he was making a joke about transgenders back in the '9s by the way. So, well, I would say this. Spyro goes like these
03:10:35
Andrew Wilsonare good references, but he goes in depth into the programming side of it, like the the what's going on in the company. Yeah. What's going on inside of the programming side of it and how detrimental it is and why you see such
03:10:48
Andrew Wilson[ __ ] coming out for programs because it takes them like he explained it to me one night. He's a he's a [ __ ] smart guy, right? like and so it's hard for me to keep up with him but he's like look if I broke this down to you how these
03:11:00
Andrew Wilsonprogrammers have changed the language we can't communicate anymore it used to be a universal language right and now you have to learn all sorts of new code and this and that for the purpose of what
03:11:11
Andrew Wilsonnobody's even going to see it you know what I mean crazy you know you know what I was just thinking is maybe we could we should have tagged in
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SPEAKER_03Oliver but he he's gone yeah Yeah. Yeah. Oliver's gone. All right. Uh, more chats coming through. Being a [ __ ] gremlin. You're being a gremlin, bro. No, I was just saying. No, we it was we got most
03:11:34
SPEAKER_05of the debate out of the way, so that was good. Murphy donated $69. Thank you, Christopher. Appreciate it. I'll give my left nut to see Andrew and crowd attack team a full panel. You're doing God's
03:11:44
Brian Atlaswork, Brian. I just want to let you know, you know, you never know what the future's going to hold. Yeah, I I was uh Yeah, we we'd like to we'd love to have uh Crowder on the show. I think that'd be epic. All right, we have You might
03:11:58
SPEAKER_05You might be able to maybe do a call in one day. You know, we'll do it. Tone Police Patriarchy donated $69. Thank you. Appreciate it. Very entertaining. Thank you both again. Brian is that
03:12:09
SPEAKER_05lovely blonde lady that usually sits behind you around. You guys pay tax ever going to be on the schedule? Well, here's the thing. We've actually had Homath on the show. It was back in like
03:12:20
Brian Atlas2023, I think. He did a call-in. He doesn't show uh his face on camera. Uh I'd love to have him back. It's just call-ins are difficult to begin with,
03:12:29
Brian Atlasbut then that added complexity of and look, I'm not he wants to keep his uh which is fine, his privacy totally fine, but uh it it does sort of complicate it,
03:12:41
Andrew Wilsonbut he's I love his content. His content's great. I've talked with several times on the phone. Very, very, very sharp guy, right? Uh enjoy his company a lot, but we're going to respect the ideas that he has around an,
03:12:54
Brian Atlasyou know, his anonymous status. I think that's fair. Uh thank you for that, though. You do have to pay the sim tax though for mentioning the I think you're mentioning Felicity. So, uh
03:13:05
SPEAKER_05Soncho, thank you, Soncho. Sancho donated $69. She originally said she had a 2hour drive back when Brian pushed back on her
03:13:16
Brian Atlastravel to her people are an hour away. She was flailing for a face saving way to GTFO. Gee, he's right. Well, the other thing is is that the uh so what we
03:13:28
Brian Atlasdo is we offer to cover in the same way that we cover your flight in hotel. We'll offer we cover their flight in the hotel of course. Uh and so but if my recol I'd have to look at the message.
03:13:39
SPEAKER_02Give me a suite though, Brian. You didn't get me a [ __ ] suite, Brian. It's a nice hotel. It is a nice hotel. It's a nice hotel. But Brian, you didn't get me a Oh, look at this
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SPEAKER_03div. But uh let me see where it is. Uh yeah, spring for the talent. What the No, it is a nice hotel. You know what, Andrew? I Plus, Jake is down here with me and we have a big announcement coming
03:14:02
Brian Atlassoon, but I'm not going to say any more about it. No, we got Wait, what's confusing to me though is there So when it came to the compensation for the
03:14:11
Brian Atlasflight and hotel, she mentioned driving we the the offer was to fly her from Chicago to Santa Barbara. Why would she be staying an like she would have
03:14:23
Andrew Wilsonhad to fly? So the excuse was I have family who's ex away and I wanted to go visit them, but what's the distinction in visiting them 1 hour or two hours away? I have no idea.
03:14:34
Andrew Wilsonthe show. But it's when she revealed, I know how long these go, but for some reason made the assumption that it's not going to go that long for me, right? That was she brought a
03:14:46
Andrew Wilsonlaundry list of things to talk about that she wanted to discuss. Does she think that these this takes three, four minutes to debate these issues out? Yeah, we barely even gotten to that debate. I've been in this studio debating with one person for like nine
03:14:59
Andrew Wilson[ __ ] hours before. Y I don't want to hear [ __ ] about this like couple hours we barely got to barely for debate content the long form debate content
03:15:10
Andrew Wilsonrequires on each of these topics often times like a long back and forth as we deconstruct the various worldviews reconstruct them get the positions understand where the person's coming
03:15:21
Andrew Wilsonfrom it's not it's not so easy it's just like oh there's 90 minutes and it's settled and so Brian runs these long form and we sometimes have four or five hours debates. And you know what's really funny is like I'm an old man.
03:15:33
Andrew WilsonWhy? How come these [ __ ] 25 year olds can't keep up with me? That's what's [ __ ] [ __ ] That's why the wage gap exists. That's why the wage gap exists. That's why the wage gap exists. I make this argument all day. This is why I get [ __ ] hired everywhere. If I
03:15:45
Andrew Wilsonwalk in with my resume, they want a [ __ ] robotics mechanic anywhere in the United States. When I walk in, they're like, "Oh, it's 12 hour shift." And I'm like, "It's not 14.
03:15:55
SPEAKER_05It's not 14." Yeah. Uh, hey you says, "Thank you." Hey, you appreciate Hey, you donated $69. The stats are extremely important.
03:16:07
SPEAKER_05I'd prefer if they were on screen. Remember, many of us are learning from the facts being shared and it helps us support our arguments against feminism, etc.
03:16:18
Andrew WilsonOkay, but but here's the thing, right? What happens is the reason people are so resistant to send in their studies, especially to the opponent, is because they try to use [ __ ] studies like
03:16:30
Andrew WilsonYu-Gi-Oh cards, right? They're like, "Oh, it's blue eyes, white dragon study." Well, I have [ __ ] you know, brown eyes, brown dragon study, and that negates blue eyes, blue dragon study. And that's not how it's supposed to
03:16:41
Andrew Wilsonwork. How it's supposed to work is that you send over, it's like a discovery, almost like a like court. that you say, "Here's what my arguments are going to be in my studies." Right? You can vet those and vet the argument. I can vet
03:16:54
Andrew Wilsonyours and vet the argument. And then you can really go at it. If people did that, we could put those studies up on screen. And I could say like, "Go to page, you know, two 221. Here's where you can vet that information and Brian could pull it
03:17:06
Andrew Wilsonright up on screen, right?" But just remember, not everybody's willing to do that. And so the thing is like me as a debater I have to be prepared for [ __ ] everything which is insane and
03:17:18
Andrew Wilsonalways perform at a high level which is insane. But I do I would vastly prefer to be like here's my top three studies and here's my arguments. Here's what forest doctrine means this and that and just go at it that way. But it's it's
03:17:31
SPEAKER_05difficult to do guys. It's not as easy as you think. We have Justin Martins say. Thank you Justin. Appreciate it. Justin Martins donated $69. You should use her fee to order Big
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SPEAKER_05Meanie Head Andrew a pineapple pizza so we can watch him cry, too. That That would make me cry. That would have been That would have been uh kind of the Yeah, pineapple
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Brian Atlaspizza. Where is it? All right. Thank you, Justin Martins. We got Jim Walsh here. We tried We actually already tried to get you pineapple pizza. It was not
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SPEAKER_05effective. Jim Walsh $1,162 donated $69. Thank you, Jim. I bet a year's salary she was on Coke. She had Destiny Jaw and couldn't stop wiping
03:18:14
Brian Atlasher nose. I mean, I did notice she would I I don't think she was on anything. Wait, wait. You noticed what? Well, she at least a dozen times she'd kind of not
03:18:25
Brian AtlasI didn't see anything, but like she was constantly like touching her nose like this. I don't know if that means any that probably doesn't mean anything. Well, the problem is is that I'm a very
03:18:36
Andrew Wilsonbeautiful man and so I was busy looking at the monitor like this. Yes. Actually, the reason the reason I often look at the monitor during debates, if you guys are wondering, it's cuz I'm old and I've been shooting guns for years and years
03:18:48
Andrew Wilsonand years and my left ear is my more dominant ear. And so I actually am the reason I'm looking this way and you'll see me look this way often is because I
03:18:58
SPEAKER_05can hear people way better. H got Cha. Hey, thank you Cha. Appreciate it. Chaw XD donated $69. I'm a software engineer at a game
03:19:09
SPEAKER_05company. My company is Philly with women who have never played games and hate players. I also was made to work for 3 months renaming repositories for DI
03:19:19
Brian Atlasreasons. Good god. Yeah, just data repositories. Really? Is that what he means? Data repositories. Doesn't is Spyro's stuff related I mean this go that wasn't Spyro then. No I
03:19:32
Brian Atlasknow it wasn't Spyro but it's kind of related to the stuff that's going on with gaming companies for example. Uh is his stuff relate I mean this goes way back to like Gamergate. Well Spyro Spyro is a brilliant he's a contractor
03:19:45
Andrew Wilsonsoftware engineer and he's brilliant. Yeah. So I'm not going to get into everybody he's contracted with. That's not my business to tell. Right. But he's he's been in with some of the larger
03:19:56
Andrew Wilsoncontractors out there between every sector you can imagine, which would include like military, others, you know what I mean, right? And he he knows his [ __ ] like defense contractors and stuff. I'm not saying
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SPEAKER_05that. Yeah. Okay. Did I say that? No. No, no, no, no. Got Croj. Hey, thank you, Cro. 012094 donated $69.
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SPEAKER_05Asian game developers don't care what feminists think. Marvel Rivals releases female heroes with giant swoops and butts with zero care for what screeching
03:20:29
Andrew Wilsonfeminists cry about. What do you think of it? Well, I think that it's like the like mustache man on Twitter that most people don't give a [ __ ] about mustache man. They just think it's really funny
03:20:40
Andrew Wilsonto watch people freak out, right, about mustache man. I think they just think it's really funny and so they do that, right? And I think in some ways Asian countries actually are trolling the United States, right? Like you'll you'll
03:20:53
Andrew Wilsonnotice that some of the old Dead or Alive games in Japan or China don't actually have like the breast enhancement thing, but in the United States there's actually codes for the breast enhance. I think some of it's
03:21:03
Andrew Wilsonlike I think they're trolling us. Am I crazy? I think they're trolling us, dude. Could be. It could be. I know in like World of
03:21:12
Brian AtlasWarcraft they uh there there was a a warlock pet that was a succubus. Yeah. Succubi. Succubus. Succubus. Succubus or it's like a female female demon or
03:21:26
Brian Atlaswhatever. Yeah, that's the succubus. The incubus is the male. And it it was always a female, but then like cuz they're like, "Oh, well, this is uh this is sexualizing and objectifying pixelated."
03:21:38
Brian AtlasYeah. demon in a video game. They introduced the male to the Incubus, I believe. Like you said, it's called just just stupid stuff. I don't know. They're changing the original game. It's weird. Uh let's
03:21:50
SPEAKER_05see. We have Lucas here. Lucas, thank you, man. Appreciate it. Lucas donated $70. You have a second one coming. I'm sure it's probably just me being an old crotchety flowers, but I have no patience and tolerance for an
03:22:02
SPEAKER_05incompetent, sniveling, weak weasel. This chick was the epitome of Chihuahua syndrome. tough uh is I don't know. I don't see the second one coming in yet, Lucas. So, I'm
03:22:13
SPEAKER_05going to let yikes come through, but I'll hers up next. Thank you, Lucas. $69. This is how you know feminism is weak. Imagine MLK fighting for civil
03:22:25
SPEAKER_05rights and the moment someone challenges his worldview, he threatens to walk out or has a man or started to try. Actually, this is a really good point,
03:22:35
Andrew Wilsonright? And this is a a good case of the idea of how women treat men versus how men treat women. The demand is that I treat this woman like an equal. So I
03:22:44
Andrew Wilsondid. But you can imagine if it was me in that same stance, right? I came in the very first night. I hadn't slept in 24 hours. I was sweating. I was all [ __ ]
03:22:54
Andrew Wilsonup because I hadn't slept. And I could barely even process what was coming at me. Right. But I'm like, got to do that [ __ ] You got to get through it. Right? That's part that's part that's part of
03:23:06
Andrew Wilsonhow it goes. That's part of work. A different totally different mindset about how these things are done. And it's like um but from from her view at
03:23:17
Andrew Wilsonthe same time she must be privileged and treated as an equal. And it's like well both of those things don't actually mesh, right? I mean it ties back into
03:23:28
Brian Atlasher her I think weak arguments as it relates to the wage gap. uh you know there no arguments. Well, yeah, men are
03:23:38
Andrew Wilsonjust more willing to they're more willing to uh work through when they're sick. They're more willing to work overtime. And well, speaking speaking of
03:23:49
Andrew Wilsonwhat she said with the wage gaps, I want you guys to remember this framing. She starts the framing by saying this. There could be three different reasons for this. And I wrote it down and the first thing I wrote was like, "No, there could
03:24:01
Andrew Wilsonbe 50 reasons for this. There could be 100 reasons for this, right? But it the framing was there can only be three. So what she wanted me to do was select from one of the three. Like [ __ ] it. I'm not
03:24:14
Andrew Wilsonselecting from one of your three [ __ ] reasons for the wage gap because that's all how you frame it. [ __ ] that. Here's what's actually going on. That's the right way to argue. What she did was try to frame it as a false dichotomy. In this case, there was a
03:24:27
Andrew Wilsonmultitude of dichotoies. It was one, two, three instead of just one and two. But it's so it's like, you know, what are you doing here? Yeah. Yeah. And to your point, uh, you know, Andrew, you've
03:24:38
Brian Atlasbeen doing a bunch of traveling. Like you said, you came in that one day, you hadn't slept for, uh, 24 hours. You still did the show. I was sick last week. Still did the show. I was I had a
03:24:49
Brian Atlasterrible sinus infection. I had a fever. I When Jim Bob, it was uh Jim Bob, I think it was when Yeah. Jim Bob and Oliver were debating. My fever was
03:24:59
Brian Atlasgetting so bad I had to excuse myself and go lay down. Yeah. And I was on the verge of throwing and I but I still came and did it. Still came and worked. Still came and did it. Still came and worked. And that's the thing is like I got off
03:25:12
Andrew Wilsonthe plane and was like, "Oh my god, I don't know how I'm going to do this. I literally can't even think." You know, you guys know what what I mean where like you're so tired you can't really process information well anyway and you're just on autopilot. When that
03:25:25
Andrew Wilsondebate was over, I was like, I still won the debate. But holy [ __ ] man. That was hours of debating, too. Yeah. And just pure
03:25:34
Brian Atlasautopilot. That was just pure autopilot. All right, we have Lucas here with his follow-up chat, then we're going to get this here wrapped up. Lucas donated $70.
03:25:44
SPEAKER_05Last call if you guys want to get one/ barking until you called her out on her [ __ ] Bravo, Spyro Synonym, Andrew. In my opinion, Will Durant is
03:25:55
Andrew Wilsonarguably one of the best somewhat recent historian. You think so? I I um I enjoyed the guy has a bit of flourish for storytelling, too. It's not
03:26:06
Andrew Wilsonjust a matter of um you know how you can read some historical accounts and they're really [ __ ] boring. The guy has a bit of a flourish. I really enjoyed it. And by the way, it's my wife who picks up a lot of those books for me. Hey, I just what she'll do is she'll
03:26:20
Andrew Wilsonbe out and she'll be like, I just saw this and I thought you might like it. And I'm like, I don't [ __ ] And I find myself at night, I grab the [ __ ] and I'm like, yeah, she was right. This is actually pretty [ __ ] good. Yeah. By the way, we still, this is one
03:26:33
Brian Atlasof our I mean, I think there's been a few episodes where we've had more than this. We still have tw uh just under 12,000 concurrent viewers just on my stream. Uh we peaked at about I think
03:26:45
Brian Atlas14,000. I think it would have been great to keep going. Unfortunately, she just dipped dipped did the I don't know if it was a rage quit. What would you call that? A cry. That was a rage quit. Was it a rage quit? Oh, yeah. Okay. It's a rage quit. And in fact, there are other
03:26:58
Brian Atlasrage quits which were way less legitimate than that. That was a [ __ ] rage quit. Yes. Yes. Oh, while we have uh the viewers here, I do want to ask um
03:27:09
Brian Atlasguys, debate, I'm asking for Oh, well that there's that, but I need to ask for some assistance from any viewers who may be able to help. uh for almost six,
03:27:20
Brian Atlasseven weeks now, my Twitter has been uh I don't know how to exactly explain it. Basically, every single uh v video or
03:27:30
Brian Atlasphoto I post. So, if I post any media, it gets put behind a sensitive content warning. My entire Twitter profile
03:27:38
Brian Atlasex-profile is behind a what they call an interstitial, a content warning. I think there might have been one or two posts, not even my own videos. I was just uh
03:27:49
Brian Atlasdoing like reaction commentary on something. Uh got flagged. I've reached out to to X. They don't have support. If anybody's watching who has a contact at
03:28:00
Brian AtlasTwitter X, uh maybe you you've worked there. If anybody can just maybe send me a DM either on Twitter that's whatever or you can DM me on Instagram at
03:28:10
Brian Atlaswhatever or you can email me Brian B r i an whatever.com if you're able to help me get my tw uh my ex Twitter account
03:28:20
Brian Atlasfixed. I would be uh I will name my firstborn son after you. And if you're a woman I will name my firstborn daughter after you. Uh if you're a woman who Huh?
03:28:32
Andrew WilsonWhat? Wait, what do you mean? Firstborn son. Yes. Not not firstborn daughter. The firstborn daughter. What if What if it's a woman who helped? You always name the firstborn daughter after the grandmother you loved. Everybody knows
03:28:44
Brian Atlasthat. Oh, okay. That's like those are the rules. Well, then if it's a woman who helps me out, my son is going to have a really weird gay He's going to
03:28:54
SPEAKER_03have a gay name. Uh, April. April. It's going to be It's his name is going to be Sue. It's going to be Sue. Yeah, I'll name my son a female name if it's a
03:29:06
Brian Atlaswoman who helps me out. But yes, I've been having issues with my ex account. It's been scuffed. I've tried all the avenues I can. So, if anybody can help me out, get in contact with me if you're able to help me out with my ex account.
03:29:17
Andrew WilsonIt's been 7 weeks. So, help a brother out here. Help a brother out. Uh, help a Caucasian out. Also, go to Debate University. Buy it. Buy it now. Hurry up. Don't listen to Brian. Buy it. Buy it as much as possible. Buy Debate
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Andrew WilsonUniver. It's great. It's fantastic. It's awesome. high production value and also we're going to be adding to it soon. So, go buy it. Yes, get to that, guys. Okay, we have Michael G here. He writes, "Her
03:29:40
Andrew Wilsonright-wing dad owes Andrew a case of single malt. Oliver was a champ compared to her. Men are better feminists than women." Isn't that interesting? But here's the thing. In my opponent's
03:29:51
Andrew Wilsoncredit, she did say that her objective is to win as many men to her own side because she obviously knows that that is the case. that mo more of the smart feminists actually are beginning to realize that they need male feminists to
03:30:03
Andrew Wilsoncome in and make the arguments and dominance because of force doctrine. They literally need that. Isn't it hilarious and ironic at the same time? Yep. And then we have the state of things. Let's take it one step further.
03:30:16
Brian AtlasWomen are so privileged that once they're taken down to the privilege of men, they're disrespected and shouldn't even dignify entertaining the men they're equal to. Right? which is the
03:30:27
Andrew Wilsonthe like pre assumption there is that men are dirt and garbage, right? Men, they're dirt and garbage and they shouldn't even be dignified with an answer the second they become equal to men. Isn't that [ __ ] hilarious?
03:30:39
SPEAKER_05Let's see if we have looks like we have something from Kevin here. He says, Kevin 89 donated $69. Thank you, Kevin. For the first time, men were the deciding factor in the presidential
03:30:51
SPEAKER_05election. Do you think women like this are aware of how off-putting they are to the average male voter? If not, then cool lol. No. No. Actually, listen, they don't. They're going to double and
03:31:02
Andrew Wilsontriple down, quadruple down this ideology. I will say this about Oliver. Oliver, when I was uh after the show was done, I went um on the balcony to have a smoke. He came out with me and Jake and he literally said, "It's because
03:31:15
Andrew Wilsonleftists are so [ __ ] cringe and he's a leftist. That's why we keep losing." like they don't really realize to the average person who's watching it. Like imagine like there's ladies out there
03:31:27
Andrew Wilsonwatching this right now. Their husbands are working their [ __ ] asses off. They get home and they're like this is how they want they expect me to treat this guy or husbands who are like why would I want my [ __ ] wife to ever be
03:31:39
Andrew Wilsonlike that when you can't say the word Indian? Like what the [ __ ] That's how people normal people think through that prism. And it's like it's so wild to me
03:31:49
Brian Atlasthat they double and triple down on that. Yep. Uh let's see here. Okay, guys. Final thing. If you want to support the show without platforms taking their cut, Venmo Cash App, whatever. Yeah. Well, let me ask you
03:32:00
Andrew Wilsonsomething. Sure. Okay. So, you get home. It's like [ __ ] 10-hour shift at the factory, right? And what you've been doing at the factory all day is some heavy ass labor. Let's just say that you're a hyo driver, right? And then and
03:32:13
Andrew Wilsonthen you do stocking on top of that. Mh. So you get out of the hyo, you have to get off of it, on, off, on. You're driving this thing all around. They extended your shift another 3 hours tonight. You get home, your wife has a meal cooked for you, and you're like,
03:32:25
Andrew Wilson"Oh, thank God." You're so exhausted. You sit down, you take that first bite, you haven't eaten all [ __ ] day, okay? You take that first bite and you're like, "Oh my god, anything would have been delicious, but this is extra
03:32:37
Andrew Wilsondelicious because she tried to make it exactly tailored how you want." You take that first bite, right? And you say, "Man, this guy at work today, we were talking about Indians." And she's like, "Native Americans."
03:32:48
Andrew WilsonThe wife says, "Native Americans." Like, doesn't now the food tastes bad. Now the food is awful and horrible. Like everything around you now
03:32:59
Andrew Wilsonis just like the imagine the sh like you you're about to take that second bite of the delicious meal. Now it just tastes like [ __ ] ass. You don't even want it. You throw it to the side. You throw the whole [ __ ] plate on the ground.
03:33:11
Andrew WilsonLike the whole thing is just like you're just done right then and there. It's Native American. You know what I mean? Imagine coming [ __ ] home to that. Imagine that [ __ ] Just saying. Yeah. That'd be [ __ ] terrible. It'd be
03:33:23
Andrew Wilson[ __ ] terrible. The way I thought you were going was she [ __ ] the steak up and she overcooked the steak. No, no. It's a beautiful steak. But here's the thing. Here's the thing. Even if the steak is beautiful, the second she says
03:33:35
Andrew Wilsonnow it's Native Americans, it's [ __ ] garbage. And you're going to throw it on the ground. It's [ __ ] worthless. And [ __ ] that [ __ ] That's it. It just ends. It ends the whole experience. You know what I mean? Yeah. And what you want to
03:33:47
Andrew Wilsonhear is like, yeah, those [ __ ] That's what you want to hear. That's what you Am I wrong? That's what you want to hear. Just saying. Mhm. Yeah. Checks out. Checks out. All right, guys. Uh oh.
03:33:59
Brian AtlasUh, go to guys. Twitch final call on this. Twitch.tv/ whatever. Drop us guys if you enjoyed the stream. It's been 25 minutes since we last had a prime sub. Can somebody I think it's bugged, boys. It's been a while since I've done the
03:34:10
Brian Atlasbug thing. Uh, I think it's bugged. Can somebody check in the chat to if they have a prime sub? I don't believe that one. The deiosity. I don't I don't believe that. Oh, well that's a fallout. Yeah, [ __ ] that. Where's the subs still? Yeah, we need some uh Master Manahham
03:34:23
Brian Atlasthing for the prime. Yeah, I don't believe that either. The tier one. Kibbaka. There it is. Kaibaka, thank Look at that. The blue me. No way. That ain't real. That's not real. We need another Matrix right now. We're in the matrix and I thank for the prime.
03:34:36
Brian AtlasAppreciate it. All right. Thank you guys. Just check if you have a prime sub available. twitch.tv/w whatever. Join our Discord, discord.gg/w whatever. I post a bunch of the cool behind the scenes uh here on the show. There's
03:34:47
Brian Atlasvarious happenings. You know, there was the the Priscilla incident. There's like stuff that wasn't captured on camera cuz we had to go to when she was here. So, we got some like, you know, stuff that
03:34:58
Brian Atlasyou don't always see on the stream when people are rage quitting. some girl was like crying in the hallway after she was being obnoxious and she um I think what did she she called me the n-word and a
03:35:10
Andrew Wilsonbunch of I'm I'm yeah she she probably shouldn't have done that but uh so Discord Brian you got a bunch of white flex right here bro that's why what about your add though look can we get it can you get me the roller real quick get
03:35:23
Andrew Wilsonme the roller so that we can make sure Brian you got to roll yourself bro you got to roll everybody can see it Brian you got to roll it
03:35:32
Brian AtlasHead and Shoulders hasn't been working. But now I'm all I'm all freaked out. Before, by the way, guys, before the show, I uh I I'm always making sure
03:35:43
Brian AtlasAndrew looks sharp. So, you know, I'm I double check if he needs sometimes if he you want you want to do your hair, you know, it's a little and also I I'll foam roll. I'll get the foam roller for him
03:35:55
Andrew Wilsonbecause he got sometimes, you know, got to keep him. I I'll offer it to the opponent. Then he hands it to the female assistants. The most awkward thing ever is I take it from her and roll myself, right? It's the most awkward [ __ ] in the
03:36:05
Brian Atlasworld. It's not Brian. It's not that bad. You what? What? Okay. All right. All right, guys. Kindly like the video here. Uh let me just double check. I
03:36:17
Brian Atlasdon't want to leave anybody hanging. Uh thank you guys for the prime subs. Really appreciate it. All right, guys. We're going to get this wrapped up. Let me just double check here. Make sure we're all looking good. Um, I'm just
03:36:28
Brian Atlastrying to think if there's anything. No, no, just the really the only thing is, uh, guys, if anybody can help me out with my Twitter account, that's pretty much it. Send me a DM on X or Instagram
03:36:40
Andrew Wilsonat whatever Spyro Mystery. You guys take a look at that. It's been a it it actually like that's a critical resource for booking. Take a look and see what you guys can do diving in to whatever
03:36:50
Brian AtlasBrian's problem is. And that's also the propaganda arm for Andrew Wilson clips. Uh, we millions of views. No, no, no. Over a billion views on on X from Well,
03:37:03
Brian Atlaswell, no. On your YouTube, it's like billions. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But on on X alone, I think it's over a billion views. Well, I was doing like uh 100 million impressions on X and then they
03:37:14
Brian Atlasdo the content interstitial and I I'll get 10K impressions. It all gets blanked. Okay. Uh, Spyro, thank you for the Oh, it's just uh whatever onx
03:37:26
Brian AtlasInstagram. You can also email me b r i an brian whatever.com. All right. Thank you, Spyro, for that super chat. Very much appreciate it. Okay, guys. Kindly like the video on the way out. Uh, I'm
03:37:38
Andrew Wilsonassuming you don't want to give your closing. No, no, no. Here's my closing. from all of us here at the Whatever podcast to all of you out there in
03:37:47
Brian Atlaswhatever podcast land. I'm gonna get my own Exodus here. You guys have a wonderful night. All right, guys. 07's in the chat. I hope you guys have a good
03:37:58
Brian Atlasweekend. Tomorrow, Sunday, 5:00 p.m. Pacific, dating talk. Andrew will be there. Got a fantastic panel. And then we have a debate Monday. and then pos uh it's looking like something on Tuesday,
03:38:08
Brian Atlasbut we got a debate Monday, 3:30 p.m. on Monday. That's going to be a very very solid debate with a very uh a jubilee guest. That's that's the only hint I'll give you. Tomorrow though,
03:38:20
Brian Atlasdating talk Sunday 5:00 p.m. Pacific. Is it that Mexican kid? Am I debating that Mexican kid? No. He's a good debater though. He's a good debater. Mexican guy. Is it? Oh, wait.
03:38:32
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we'll figure it out. You had him on. You had him on. What's his name? Elazar. Yeah, there we go. No, no, no, no. Yeah, that Oh, come on. But he's a good debate him. He's a good debater. Wait, you want to debate him? What? What? Wait, what? Okay, whatever. What?
03:38:45
Brian AtlasAll right, we got to get this right. We got to get Andrew some hamburgers. So, okay. All right, guys. 07's in the chat. Thank you so much for tuning in and we will see you guys next time. Good night, guys.