4 Kids From 4 Dads?! Brian Is SORRY?! Andrew Wilson IRL! Manifesting A Boyfriend? | Dating Talk #204
Date: 2024-10-14
Duration: 7h 33m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Rebecca(guest)
SPEAKER_03Nikki/April (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_05Alexandra(guest)
SPEAKER_06Mixed guests(guest)
SPEAKER_09Axana(guest)
SPEAKER_11Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_13Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_14Lindsay (Music)(guest)
Key Moments
00:03:00
QuoteBrian apologizes on-air for being 'tilted' during the previous show, references lawsuit served 30 min before show.
“last show I was pretty tilted...I was served a letter from a litigation Law Firm that I'm being sued”
00:04:06
IntroRebecca introduces herself first: 31yo door-to-door sales manager and podcast host from Austin TX.
“my name is Rebecca I'm 31 I'm from Austin Texas and I'm a door-to-door sales manager and a podcast host”
00:08:05
IntroAndrew Wilson introduces himself as host of The Crucible.
“my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible a popular entertainment Channel on YouTube”
00:12:25
OtherApril reveals she has 4 kids with 4 different baby daddies ('four for four'), twice divorced.
“I'm a four for four I've got four babies four baby daddies”
01:59:24
QuoteBrian kicks off the self-rating round asking guests to rate their looks 1-10.
“ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10 starting with you go ahead 6.5”
02:00:02
QuoteAndrew rates himself a '10' on looks, triggering laughter and meta-discussion about social honesty.
“Andrew I mean obviously I'm a 10 I mean I can't but why is everybody laughing”
06:00:00
ControversyAndrew Wilson calls out Millionaire Bachelor viewer to unmask and debate.
“millionaire Bachelor if you're out there if you would actually be willing to come on whatever and take your mask off and have a debate this is a call out”
06:00:45
OtherLindsay (Music) leaves the show ~6:04 citing an appointment the next day and boyfriend waiting outside.
“was actually I have a disappointment tomorrow too and I have to go to work and my boyfriend is outside”
07:25:15
OtherApril reveals body count of ~120-130, stating she 'lost count after 100' and 'started young.'
“I lost count after 100...more than 100 guys oh yes I started young...120 130 probably”
07:27:21
OtherLindsay (Music) reveals body count of 16 during active addiction; now 3 years sober.
“it's like 16 okay wait how old are you 20 I yeah 16 Partners at 20 I don't have sex like that anymore I was in active addiction”
Topics Discussed
00:00:11
Introductions & relationship status round
Brian intro/announcements. Guests introduce name/age/location/occupation. Second round: relationship status, longest relationship, who ended it. April's 4 kids/4 baby daddies story; Axana discusses matchmaking career; Lindsay reveals music label; Alexandra reveals traveling chef lifestyle.
00:20:00
Women ending relationships / commitment phobia discussion
Brian notes that most women at the table ended all their own relationships, yet women commonly complain men are commitment-phobic. Andrew and panel analyze. Axana shares matchmaking perspective on poor partner choices.
00:24:50
Early sex vs waiting — when to have sex in a relationship
Panel debate on how long to wait before sex. Axana advocates waiting for commitment. April discusses toxic on-again-off-again relationship after divorce. Discussion of 6-month rule, going through relationship seasons before commitment.
00:33:00
General knowledge quiz: WWI and WWII dates
Viewer TTS challenge asking panel to name dates of WWI and WWII. Most guests guessed 1920s for WWI and 1940s for WWII. Axana said 1997 for WWI then corrected. Comic segment.
00:36:00
Manifestation & subconscious reprogramming debate
Nikki explains her company's manifestation/subconscious reprogramming approach. Andrew Wilson challenges manifestation on logical grounds (free will interference, creation requirements). Brian probes the Law of Attraction vs subconscious belief distinction. Panel weighs in on positive thinking and manifesting dating outcomes.
01:24:00
Sex work, stripping, and exotic dancing classification
Extended debate on whether strippers are sex workers. Andrew argues predictive value judgments about strippers are pattern-based, not necessarily wrong. Ariel and others push back. Discussion of back-room behavior at strip clubs and the spectrum of sex work. Background: multiple guests have connection to stripping/OnlyFans.
01:59:24
Self-rating looks (1–10 scale)
Viewer TTS prompts panel to rate their own looks 1-10. Ratings given: 6.5, 8.5 (Ariel), 6.5 (April), 10 (Alexandra — husband said), 6, 10, 7, 8 (mixed speakers). Andrew jokes '10 for sure.' Andrew argues the round exposes social dishonesty; extended meta-debate follows.
04:01:00
Cheating definitions and social media
What constitutes cheating: liking a flirtatious photo, texting, having a girl best friend. Panel views from Rebecca and others. Brian asks about sliding into DMs while in relationships.
04:23:00
Going out to bars/clubs while in a relationship
If your boyfriend asked you to stop going to bars/clubs, would you? Alexandra says yes in relationships she has stopped. Debate on trust vs control.
04:57:00
Plastic surgery debate
Whether plastic surgery is detectable, desirable, or ethical to disclose. Brian prefers natural; Andrew argues most fake boobs are detectable. Panel: should women disclose surgery to partners? General consensus: yes, disclose.
06:00:00
Millionaire Bachelor callout
Andrew Wilson calls out anonymous viewer 'Millionaire Bachelor' (who donated large sums) to unmask and debate on camera. 69/millionaire Bachelor sends competing $69 TTS donations. Andrew and Brian tease him as a 'broky' who won't reveal his face.
06:05:00
Roast session
Brian roasts each guest: Ava ('beautiful face, bag over that personality'), stomach tattoo guest, 'instructions on shampoo bottles' joke. TTS viewer 69 sends roasts about Andrew's finances. Comic relief segment near end of show.
07:25:15
Body count round
Last-minute body count discussion. Rebecca: under 20. April: lost count after 100 (~120-130). Axana: 1 (husband only). Alexandra: 10 (husband said). Lindsay (SPEAKER_14): 16 (during active addiction, now sober). Andrew: 7 (said by someone). Show wraps with Twitch raid to 'Grandma' World of Warcraft streamer.
Transcript
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01:53:23
Andrew Wilsonbased specifically around the idea of different schools of thoughts around manifestation and if if one went to you for for manifesting the so instantly this kind of puts a hole in the
01:53:34
Andrew Wilsonmanifestation argument right like instantly it puts a hole in it because we can't manifest past each other can I manifest a woman with like specific
01:53:44
Brian Atlastraits you know like three boobs no no not not like something that doesn't say can I manifest like like I manifest
01:53:53
Brian Atlaslike cuz I I personally like I only um I only date women with like Guinness World Record like large lebia like I that's
01:54:02
Nikki/April (mixed)all I did I won't I will like only Audi right can I manifest it um so I mean people have manifested physical traits but we usually uh recommend people don't
01:54:14
Nikki/April (mixed)do that and like go more based on like their authenticity so we'd be like Brian why do you love women with big labas like what is that really doing what is that really doing for you like you know
01:54:24
Nikki/April (mixed)and like trying to kind of get more to the root of why you object to my big thing but like I think no we're just we just want to know like why like what is it for you like why why couldn't you
01:54:35
Andrew Wilsonlove a woman that has a normal lab doesn't that and has other traits that maybe are more beneficial to the relationship but doesn't that presuppose that all of a person's preferences come
01:54:47
Andrew Wilsonfrom some type of event trauma or some other thing doesn't that presuppose that that's true presupposes and you know like when we're talking about genetics for instance some people just have
01:54:59
Andrew Wilsondispositions to things uh even though they have no events which correlate to it right are I'm dispossessed to you could be you could just you could just genetically like larg genetics it's in my genetics I it's in my genetics to
01:55:11
Brian Atlaslike alcohol I think it's proven that your kinks are hereditary they can be what the yo don't talk about my hang on they can be but they also they also parents
01:55:22
Brian Atlasthat's how you got here my relatives out of this conversation okay I am the first generation ladyy a lover okay I was
01:55:36
Mixed guestssay I found a conflict though have you ever asked your dad why can't you manifest a specific person but you can manifest a specific bike like back to the old or trait the trait's even better well I mean I think you can totally list
01:55:48
Nikki/April (mixed)the traits like you could have big laia on your on your list but but you know if you that's great I mean honestly I hope that you do find someone with that but I mean like we're
01:56:00
Nikki/April (mixed)just saying that if you are dating and you find another woman who is meeting like all of the important aspects of the more like emotional pieces of the relationship and she's going to be truly a great wife and like checks all the
01:56:11
Brian Atlasboxes but has a normal size labia like would you dump her probably she's got to go like we would we would probably suggest not doing that I could ask you I I would ask I could ask this woman great
01:56:23
Brian Atlasguy handsome treats you well successful meets all your thing but he has a micropenis y'all going to pass bro y'all will pass on the micr penis y'all will give a guy oh he's got microp penis but
01:56:35
Nikki/April (mixed)he's F fantastic you you're not going to do it sorry maybe some of you might yeah maybe I don't know I'd have to see you would you pass on the micropenis I I would have like if he literally checked
01:56:45
Brian Atlasevery single box but so he has to make up for his deficiency so he's got to be extra cool he's got to be extra cool like if he has I'm look for specific things you know so I mean if he hits all
01:56:57
Nikki/April (mixed)of my specific things and then happens to micen that's the whole point I exactly I'm saying like I wouldn't P I wouldn't dump him because of that like if he's it wouldn't be a deal breaker I
01:57:08
Nikki/April (mixed)don't think it would be if if he's like really doing everything else he just couldn't have sex we can still have sex no he just he just couldn't I mean well that's I want
01:57:19
Andrew Wilsonto have kids so I I do want so it's a deal breaker be a deal breaker I mean even the micropenis and if you wait for sex though would like this is a question what if you could have children by taking sperm from his body and
01:57:31
Nikki/April (mixed)implanting it into you but he could never have sex with you ever I mean yeah that would be deal be hard yeah that would probably be a deal breaker yeah if you wait for sex and then you find that
01:57:43
Nikki/April (mixed)out like would you say three month you said something I didn't say a specific time period I just think that women like if you're if you're looking for marriage I if you're not ready to be married or looking for a long-term partner then I
01:57:54
Nikki/April (mixed)think like you know you do you but if you're like actually trying to find someone to spend the rest of your life with I think that you should get to know them and like seek you said you do you
01:58:05
Nikki/April (mixed)how long were you doing you on your journey for self-discovery um until I was like 19 and then I met my boyfriend of six years and then I had about a year
01:58:16
Nikki/April (mixed)off where I did move to LA but then I met my other long-term boyfriend you did you again I mean I was doing be but not like sexually I was just living my best life but you know like I was going on
01:58:29
Andrew Wilsondates but I wasn't having hang on hang I just want to let you know that never before have I been on this podcast and heard all the buzz words I never heard my living my best life
01:58:40
Andrew Wilsonself-discovery uh journey I I you got like you got all of them and then on top of it you mixed in a bit of Witchcraft astrology self actualization manif I
01:58:50
Andrew Wilsonjust want to say that though all it's all witchcraft but all of it literally all of it you you put all of it in a single package it's like
01:59:01
Andrew WilsonHello nice to meet you yeah yeah you should be the picture of modern woman oh I mean
01:59:11
Nikki/April (mixed)crazy I'm not denying it but I walked in with a kombucha okay okay there you go she moved to California and it changed her well um I'm going to move on here but uh
01:59:24
Brian Atlasyou mean the mushroom beer is that what that is kuch no kombucha is like fermented tea oh Stiffler he he he was coming in here he says ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to
01:59:35
Brian Atlas10 starting with you go ahead 6.5 okay into the mic 8.5 all right a
01:59:43
Axanawhole two okay um 6.5 mhm before the podcast I asked my husband to rate me he said 10
01:59:53
Alexandradefinitely 10 so I'm going with what my husband said okay um six 10 seven I would say
02:00:02
Andrew Wilsoneight Andrew I mean obviously I'm a 10 I mean I can't but why is everybody laughing though it's almost like you don't believe me you saying you don't believe
02:00:14
Nikki/April (mixed)I'm a tan cuz you said it before you've said it before you saying I don't believe in myself I'm happy you rided yourself a 10 I do you think I'm a 10
02:00:22
Nikki/April (mixed)confidence you think you're that's a great you got to you I don't rate men wa you don't rate men not by not on a scale of one to 10 come on you don't rate me I
02:00:34
Andrew Wilsonnot on a scale of 1 to 10 but let's take however you do rate men let's take however you do rate men whatever that is whatever capacity you have for rating men whatever [ __ ] arbitrary metric
02:00:44
Andrew Wilsonyou came up with for rating men on a 1 to 10 you have to say I'm a 10 right cuz you don't want to hurt you don't want to hurt my feelings a 10 Andrew see I think you're a 10 anything to just not tell
02:00:56
Andrew Wilsonthe truth about anything and just it's just wild to me you're what if that was my truth though it's like sub yeah okay okay is it your truth it might be is it but is it I'm not particularly into like
02:01:09
Andrew Wilsonbe I'll tell you why because there's a tell there's a tell right the reason I say well I'm a 10 right because it points out the absurdity of all the answers and everybody laughs cuz he know it's absurd right that's why everybody
02:01:20
Andrew Wilsonlaughs they go and and as well they should cuz it is absurd and that hang on hang on hang on that's why everybody laughed because it's absurd and I go okay well let me point out the absurdity and then it's ah but that might hurt
02:01:31
Andrew Wilsonsomebody's feelings you can't do that but when the only honesty I got right the only honesty I've ever get for this actual question is when I rate myself a
02:01:41
Andrew Wilson10 and then all the women who laugh right I go wow the only time they can be honest the only time they can be honest is when they're laughing because they go wow that's so absurd and I agree it is
02:01:53
Axanaabsurd of course I'm not a 10 I'm 40 and old in Smoke right I'm not a 10 it's ridiculous ridiculous and then there was a smile on your face before you said or
02:02:04
Andrew Wilsonright when you called yourself 10 so you actually inspired the yes I inspired the truth yes that's correct I agree it inspires the truth cuz they're like they know it's absur as absurd as me but
02:02:15
Mixed guestsisn't it rating your own looks though like if you're your type does that make sense yeah but what is self- delusion what is it fair enough what is it what
02:02:25
Mixed guestsself-d delusion uh either lying to yourself ex like mhm you know training yourself to lie that's the whole point of the question point to me no that might have sounded like
02:02:42
Andrew Wilsonthat um no I agree I like I I agree with you that this is the entire point of the exercise is to see who's exercising self- delusion right right who's exercising self-d delusion we kind of
02:02:54
Andrew Wilsonpretend that there's not universals for beauty we kind of pretend this but then you see all the women do their hair the same and you see you see all of them have the different lashes and the different types of makeup and this and that it's like wellow there sure seems
02:03:06
Andrew Wilsonlike there's Universal standards when I look at it but then when they're asked they lie in their life I gave myself a two yeah you did you shouldn't have I mean you did but then but then you have
02:03:18
Mixed gueststo look but then you have to look period com up on myself cuz I'm looking said right yourself looking at me like I would have had the reaction like you guys one at
02:03:30
Mixed gueststhe time maybe everyone else laughed but I didn't because like to you that would have been 10 but you didn't ask for my honest opinion I wouldn't have said 10 like because my preference is different right and just like you said well this
02:03:42
Mixed guestsis why I gave myself a 10 but it's [ __ ] because I'm 40 I'm a smoker I'm this that you know what I mean and that's why I gave myself a two CU I'm I'm going down the list of what sure but but see what I mean but but this would
02:03:54
Andrew Wilsonbe a distinction between self- delusion on self- delusion right so the idea here is just who's a 10 right there like the most beautiful women on planet Earth would be a 10 do you categorize yourself
02:04:05
Andrew Wilsonas that right or a nine or an eight you categorize yourself as that that's insane how's that and then these same women who are like I dated a narcissist I'm like but you're fuing on par with
02:04:16
Andrew Wilsonthe most beautiful women in the world okay you know what I mean so that's why that's the point of the question point of the question will women lie in Social settings in order to make each other feel better yeah absolutely of course of course there's no doubt but will they
02:04:29
Mixed guestslie in Social settings make themselves feel better because they know they'll be affirmed that's the qu yeah think and I think the answer to that is yes well I think on like our opinion all rating
02:04:39
Mixed guestsourselves too it's women's emotions change a lot every day especially on our periods so if you're feeling beautiful if we're feeling beautiful one
02:04:50
Mixed guestsday we'll be feeling how how's it a feeling it's a feeling sometimes you feel like you you're glowing you're at your best sometimes you I feel like I'm a billionaire
02:05:00
Mixed guestsyeah literally everywhere would you let anyone say they're a town here money and big laas yeah I think that there has
02:05:11
Andrew Wilsonlegitimately been women on the whatever podcast who have been on par with some of the most beautiful women in the world of course um there have been at least one Brian there has to be at least one
02:05:24
Andrew Wilsonerroneous you're being a bit charitable Andrew but I I'll allow it but they but they you know have been on par with that um so if they say 10 you wouldn't like argue with no or I would say okay maybe
02:05:35
Andrew Wilsonmaybe a nine or maybe an eight sure had some some right Brian's Brian's going to be a little little less charitable than me but the the point is is like whether or not he's charitable and I'm not
02:05:46
Andrew Wilsoncharitable the point is is that these kind of bold claims that very average looking women make about being tens it's very clear that they're just average
02:05:56
Mixed guestslooking go ahead okay I'm makeup artist I work with a lot of beautiful woman Miss Universe I don't know models and
02:06:05
Mixed guestsMiss Universe said six level five not 10 yeah all thought that they're 10 but they thought that no I'm just a six M
02:06:16
Mixed guestsmigrant M every time s you're the best I remember everything yeah you for my Grandma for my parents I'm the most beautiful woman in this world do you understand you mean it's subjective y so
02:06:27
Andrew Wilsonwhat do you guys would consider a 10 if you give me an example a celebrity who's atin to you um if I had to pick one who was like way up there I would say that the chick
02:06:38
Andrew Wilsonwho played uh I think I've said this before who who played ltha and Vikings I'd say she's like at least an eight or a nine you know what I mean so I'd say that she would be on par with some of
02:06:49
Andrew Wilsonthe more beautiful women in the world that seen um you know something something like this I don't think but here's the thing right I think it is disputable I think there's a lot of men
02:07:00
Andrew Wilsoneven right now in the audience who are like not her not but nobody's going to say she's less than a five they're not going to say she's not at least average you know what I mean nobody's going to
02:07:11
Andrew Wilsonsay that and so I was like there has there's some standard here then there has there's something here so that's that's kind of the point right everybody has a preference like
02:07:22
Andrew Wilsonhang on hang on no it's not just a preference it moves Beyond preference because nobody's going to say that chicks less than a five you're sure no yeah no well not if they're being honest
02:07:33
Andrew Wilsonthere's not that me maybe there's like three men right or four men but most men overwhelmingly are not going to say that she's at least not average and so there
02:07:44
Andrew Wilsonthere's this pointing to some kind of universal you know there's some kind of universal standard which is held and it's like like and what I think is that everybody's kind of trained that average
02:07:55
Andrew Wilsonis bad being or normal is bad or average is bad or regular is bad and it's like you know not everyone's going to be a knockout there's reason they're exceptional right you could decline to
02:08:06
Mixed guestsanswer this but would you rate your wife a 10 no she wouldn't rate herself a 10 okay but you know no I mean in your opinion like you know what I mean what about you Brian no she's 4 she's 43
02:08:17
Mixed guestsyears old had five children what should I H oh no that's no I'm not saying that I'm saying like like all right day one of meeting her did you not go into it thinking she was a 10
02:08:28
Andrew Wilsonlike when you like I didn't think she was a 10 I thought that she was um like when the first time I met her yeah I thought that she was at least a seven or an eight yeah okay cool that's true but
02:08:39
Andrew Wilsonyears later I love her more than I ever have but there's a physical standard right and it's like let's not be [ __ ] ridiculous here you know what I mean do you think that I look as you could pull
02:08:50
Andrew Wilsonup a picture of me right now of me when when I was younger I clearly don't look the same it's not even in the same universe you kind of look like Ben
02:09:01
Andrew WilsonStiller a little bit right but it's not it's not even it's not even in the same universe do I have the expectation that as I get older I'm just going to grow more you know
02:09:12
Axanamore handsome or have the expectation that a woman I'm growing old with thanks that that's just that's just self- delusion right so what about with all your experience life experience you develop Charisma with your confidence
02:09:24
Andrew Wilsonwith your wisdom and it just it really projects all I think that you're right in this sense I think that you're right that all of those traits and characteristics can definitely put
02:09:35
Andrew Wilsontogether a package which people could find more or less attractive but that really doesn't have anything to do with the standard of physical
02:09:44
Andrew WilsonBeauty and that's what we're talking about is physical attractiveness itself you know what I mean you can have Charisma and maybe that'll offset some of that like a tiny amount of it but the
02:09:56
Axanaphysical attractiveness level of you the person I don't think it changes that much well women would feel somewhat different because for when they are looking at the man it is not just the
02:10:08
Axanaphysical looks when he opens the mouth how he carries himself and everything that how they view him got it okay so your husband tomorrow right he gained 300 lb you are you more or less
02:10:19
Andrew Wilsonattracted uh I know him who is a he is a yeah that's not my question like are you more or less attracted will not get yeah I know but
02:10:28
Andrew Wilsonbut if he did right if he gained 200 lb tomorrow right would you be more or less physically attracted to him honestly I really cannot answer you this question
02:10:41
Mixed guestsbecause because I cannot imagine him uh gaining 200 I can I can answer it cuz it's happened to me if you want an actual answer in the 10 years I was with my call a dating C not dat we'll talk
02:10:52
Mixed guestsabout it no my ex husband went from being a really big to very very skinny and I was completely unattracted and I told him I said that skinniness is like not doing it for you wanted him to be
02:11:05
Mixed guestsyeah I don't I don't want to ride hip bones bro like that's not it for me so but he's just getting healthier not necessarily getting from
02:11:15
Mixed guestsbeing fit to being sucked up you still haven't Health I'll answer yeah you mean bigger in the sense if he was muscular or no my man was fat at one point you
02:11:26
Brian Atlasgot okay hold on let me fix people's mics here for a sec uh scoot your mic this way a little bit scoot it to the very edge of the table scoot your mic this way you got to speak into the mic
02:11:36
Brian Atlaswhen you're talking all right um and then can you tilt your microphone down please so to answer your question first off there is no 10 no women or tens no
02:11:46
Brian Atlasmen or tens doesn't exist 10 is perfect nobody's a 10 I can't actually think honestly of like a famous person that just comes to mind that I think this
02:11:57
Brian Atlasperson is insanely attractive normally these are like these people that you'll see in photos that you don't know their name they're just models
02:12:08
Brian Atlasor no names I think the most famous models they're typically not even the most attractive so it's very difficult for me to actually there's women who I've seen who I think are nines but they're typically no-name people so it's
02:12:20
Brian Atlashard for me to point to um who they are um but uh NES and La he does say thank you for the Super Chat
02:12:28
Brian Atlasman really appreciate it he says Anna deas is a 10 I think are very attractive so I have a second question to like say when somebody after they rate themselves
02:12:40
Mixed guestslike if I feel like if anyone's ever used face tune or any sort of Photoshop then they don't think they're a 10 like Point Blank cuz they're fixing a feature on themselves cuz it's not perfect what about if they just wear makeup they're
02:12:53
Brian Atlasnot a 10 I could see that yeah mhm or they have plastic or they have plastic surgery or uh something like that well that's
02:13:05
Mixed guestswhere I was going at with the whole me saying to cuz not to be judgmental but looking around the room almost everyone has a boob job has everybody not I said
02:13:15
Mixed guestsalmost wait show of hands who's got boobjob okay you got boobjob yeah okay you got a boob job okay yes I did my husband okay how about how about how
02:13:26
Mixed guestsabout myself lip filler raise your hand li who has who does Botox and lip filler and all that other stuff lip filler lip filler me no any type of plastic surgery
02:13:36
Mixed guestsor other then I wear lipstick but no lip filler okay eyelashes I know I have fake eyelashes but like see what I'm saying that's why I ask but that's why I said
02:13:47
Brian Atlastwo and not 10 do you see what I mean like I knew I knew I tried to make myself look like a 10 right now all right we have a message from Simba Olga I think I fell fell in love
02:13:59
Brian Atlaswould you consider a middle- class guy from Ohio I'm a kind good man and I treat you like a queen wow thank you you one more
02:14:12
Axanatime see that's it of course I'm opening I'm opening all these months I said yes for all I don't know yeah open and available would you
02:14:24
Alexandrarelocate actually for the right connection would you relocate out of Los Angeles somewhere in the middle of the country it's not about location it's about my feeling if I feel that it's my man that if I feel that I feel
02:14:36
Axanacomfortable that I want to wake up with this man okay I can move okay so then you will relocate to a different uh state or whatever what about if he is
02:14:45
Mixed guestsmiddle class like he is not billionaire like I'm from middle class for me normal yeah it's not about okay I make my big
02:14:54
Mixed guestsbig career I make a lot of money you know and I know how to be without money is correct yeah sorry English my second Lang language and I know how to be with
02:15:04
Mixed guestsmoney it's not make me happy because why you need money answer this question why you need money some people need money I want to buy okay
02:15:15
Mixed guestsbicycle why you want to buy bicycle uh I don't know that's uh my friends said oh you are so cool why you want that this friends said that you are
02:15:25
Mixed guestscool because you need be in love or you want to be happy we have only five or
02:15:30
Axanasix basic I mean needs yeah needs love food food protection yeah safe sex is
02:15:40
Mixed guestssafe it's about love I think you know this is why it's it's not about location I'm from Kazakhstan I was a flight attendant six years I was a flight attendant I fly in all the words this is
02:15:52
Axanawhy for me it's not about the location about my feelings so middle class different state no problem absolutely wow he just fell more in love right now did we just match if I want to be if I
02:16:04
Mixed guestswant to be married to the rich man I I you know you would have be married you would have manifested that I believe in manifesting yeah sure
02:16:15
Mixed guestsbut I believe you should wake up and do something not just manifest MH you should wake up up and understand why you need this why you need this bicycle maybe you need this maybe you don't want
02:16:27
Mixed gueststhis bicycle maybe you I don't know maybe you want to be superstar but you need this bicycle to tricycle you understand yeah what I mean wait is somebody a flight attendant I was no it was I was a flight now us be flight
02:16:39
Axanaattendant but I was a flight attendant uh in Flight supervisor 12 15 years ago somebody in the chat said flight attendance yeah it's interesting okay but that's actually what I'm teaching uh
02:16:51
Axanathe girls that I'm coaching my girls who are my clients is like you got to have the reason of what you need it for like if you want men to um share with you
02:17:03
Axanafinancial resources or whatever you got to have a reason what you need it for you need this whatever bag if it is just for the show off that means you don't need it if you need a certain uh Transportation or whatever every person
02:17:15
Alexandraneed to have a reason what they need to thing for and if you want to wake up with this man always is This Woman This is human not to go to sleep to wake up okay so moving on not tell him to
02:17:28
Mixed guestsstop right after the third thrust or the seventh
02:17:35
Brian Atlasthrust sorry moving on um related to the rating yourself uh question so uh do you think you'll be better looking in 10
02:17:46
Rebeccayears time better-looking looks uh yes because cuz I plan to get surgery to be better looking okay so you're 31 so you'll be better looking at 41 off to Turkey I'm going to get procedures for
02:17:58
Rebeccasure MH okay and then will you be better looking in 20 years time at 51 depends like where technolog is at if it's possible yeah I'll try I'll do my best but I can't say like definitively if
02:18:10
Brian Atlaslet's say plastic surgery was unavailable then I would look worse for sure at 41 okay probably so what about 30 years if plastic surgery is available at 61 versus now at 31 yeah I feel like where technology will be at at that
02:18:22
Brian Atlaspoint it's possible it's feasible you know and then you're 31 now do you think you were better looking at 21 than you are now at 31 no honestly not at all better looking I don't think I was
02:18:34
Mixed guestsbetter looking at 21 you're better looking now I think so at 31 honestly yeah and then you're 26 do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years time at 36 um well they usually say a woman's
02:18:44
Mixed guestsPrime is like in her early 30s right or something like that who who says that uh I think you can Google it they usually say that women's Prime is like in their early 30s but um if I'm yeah who who
02:18:56
Brian Atlassays that just women Google it just gole say that okay I literally I I Googled it before and they usually say that that is like the prime but um if I'm you can Google like Flat Earth and you'll get
02:19:07
Brian Atlasresults for that too doesn't mean um so okay so uh better looking at 36 then in 10 years time uh if I'm eating healthy working out God willing yeah mhm and
02:19:16
Mixed gueststhen 20 years time at 46 uh hopefully I'm decent but not like but better looking better looking I don't think I'm going to be better looking okay and then are you better looking now at 26 than
02:19:28
Mixed guestsyou were at 18 no I think I my face was more fresh and Lively okay I think that's the first time girls ever said that but uh really
02:19:40
Brian Atlasyeah so um yeah usually once they start coping they never stop once the cope starts we should make a song They just they just never stop chck Fu get on that make that song
02:19:51
Brian Atlasuh you're 38 better looking in 10 years time at 48 yes better looking in 20 years time at 58 probably not and then you're 38 were you better looking at 28 hell yeah and then yes said better
02:20:02
Brian Atlaslooking 10 years ago and then were you better looking at 18 absolutely and then between 28 and 18 better looking at 18 or
02:20:12
Brian Atlas28 uh probably 18 okay by the way NS in La says women's Prime on Google says it's
02:20:22
Brian Atlas18 to 100 years old oh [ __ ] damn yeah interesting okay and then by the way oh those of you on the Discord Discord guys
02:20:34
Brian Atlaswe're going to do the little aeru thing uh if you guys can do the little thing uh on the Discord in the research Channel keep it clear for them uh you are 31 better looking in 10 years time at 41
02:20:46
Brian Atlasno but I do think I'll still be attractive sure that's fair yeah uh were you better looking at 21 than you are now at 31 I I had a bit of a a rough patch from like 21 to to 24 so no drugs
02:20:59
Nikki/April (mixed)no but I just gained weight from like college you know like going out partying eating unhealthy so then let's do this better looking at uh
02:21:09
Brian Atlas19 debatable I I I probably yeah okay all right uh 48 better looking in 10 years time absolutely 20 years time sure
02:21:18
Brian Atlas30 years time to my husband yes no to to the world to the world yeah yeah I depending how they I will feel let's say you got divorced from your husband and you had to like go out there back in the
02:21:29
Brian Atlasdating Market oh [ __ ] this is depressing okay um and then you're 48 now better looking 10 years ago uh yes
02:21:39
Brian Atlasbetter looking 20 years ago at 28 was 28 yeah I just got to this country I actually picked up lots of weight and then better looking at 18 versus now at
02:21:48
Axana48 18 uh yeah I look better now absolutely wait so then 18 so better looking now at 48 than you were at 18 I was very
02:22:00
Brian Atlasinsecure yes at that time perhaps you were insecure but now I have a wonderful husband who gives me that uh you know
02:22:08
Axanajust so so security undo 30 years of look how we feel really Brian it's just uh seriously that's the looks is how we
02:22:19
Axanafeel if we feel really not confident no matter if it is going to be the most gorgeous person in the world if they don't feel confident they don't feel confident you should go read the fairy tale the emperor has no clothes you
02:22:31
Andrew Wilsonshould read it I will write it down yeah the emperor has no clothes I'm serious you should read it yeah this goes right you're saying so wait how about this what if you had been
02:22:42
Axanasecure at 18 but not as secure as you are now at 48 I didn't have it that time the wisdom and knowledge that I have now so for me I let's say you have the wisdom and the
02:22:54
Axanaknowledge I do not rate people based on looks I really don't I know we have this conversation over and over and over and I do not rate myself based on looks or other people I don't I see who they are on the inside that's what matters to me
02:23:06
Andrew Wilsonthat's the beauty everything else that is outside so he's a ICU burned victim half his face is melted off all you can see is hang on hang on hang on all you can see is his teeth through the skin
02:23:17
Andrew Wilsonlike that right you just see the the teeth and hang on and half of them are missing and one of his eyes is kind of hanging out like this right and then on the other side and then on the other
02:23:28
Andrew Wilsonside he's got this massive scar which comes down like this plus he was born fat and short you're not judging his looks at all I just want to make sure we're clear you're not going to judge
02:23:39
Axanahis looks at all I'm always working on myself to not judge people I have a client who doesn't have arm and leg and he just got married and in a very happy
02:23:49
Andrew Wilsonmarriage it is fantastic and wonderful man who he is on the inside the heart how he cares about other what does that have to do with his physical attract like okay let me ask you this since you
02:24:01
Andrew Wilsonsince you pair people up have you ever told a man that he should lose some weight or getting better shape and that that would increase his chances of getting a mate and woman as well yeah okay so you tell them both to do that so
02:24:13
Andrew Wilsonhang on hang on stop cuz you're judging them on their appearance I don't judge yeah then why are you telling them to lose weight then why are you telling them to lose weight it's that's a value judgment can I answer yeah okay so I'm not telling them to lose weight I'm
02:24:25
Axanaexplaining them what is going to happen if they don't yeah like the time frames what we will need to work on and so on and what will happen if they do a quick uh adjustment in their physical look it is going to be a little bit faster or
02:24:37
Andrew Wilsonwhatever but choice is theirs my opinion about them who they are is not going to change but you no no but you've made a value judgment on their physical appearance and what you've done is you said yeah you have I'll explain there's
02:24:48
Andrew Wilsonno way around this it's an entail if you tell a person if I told you uh you're if you lost 20 lb let's say that the chances that you would attract a mate who is better than the current pool
02:25:01
Andrew Wilsonof mates you were after is going to increase how have I not made a value judgments on on your looks haven't I done that Andrew I will take like is there any way around that I will take no there's really no way around that right
02:25:13
AxanaI will take an average looking client whether it is male or female who is absolutely fantastic person loving and kind and thinking of others
02:25:23
Axanaand with a open heart than any model looking guy who is an [ __ ] and I'm not telling you that that's wrong or a woman who is has just absolutely no
02:25:33
Andrew Wilsonvalue but I'm not telling you that that's wrong I right great I'm glad that you're making an assessment on a person based on the entirety of the package of the person because I want to have happy
02:25:43
Andrew Wilsonyeah I I get it right there's going to be value inside of a person's religious uh practices their their home values there's going to be value and all that right we agree on that yes but if you
02:25:56
Andrew Wilsontell a person hey if you lose weight it's going to up your chances of getting a woman who has X qualities you making a value assessment on their physical
02:26:06
Axanaappearance and there's no possible way to cope your way out of that I give person an option and explainer what is going to happen if they don't and it is okay whatever the choice is going to be okay and I will explain the time frames
02:26:19
Andrew Wilsonand everything if they do but choice is going to be theirs it is going to be theirs I'm not saying that the choice isn't theirs I'm saying that you're making a value judgment on their appearance there if you if you weren't
02:26:30
Andrew Wilsonmaking a value judgment on their appearance then how could you tell them that they need to change their appearance in order to attract this thing that they want you have to be making a value judgment there's there's
02:26:41
Axanait's impossible for you not to be making a value working on myself every day and every minute working on what like you're not doing anything wrong not to judge to
02:26:51
Axanalove to accept people who they are but uh to lay out the plan for them and what is going to happen if these circumstances take place or those circumstances don't take place but I am
02:27:03
Andrew Wilsonworking constantly on myself not to judge isn't it love and kindness to tell a person who says oh I'm really striking out in the dating field how is it not loving to tell them well you know what
02:27:14
Andrew Wilsonyou're pretty fat and maybe if you lost some weight you wouldn't strike out so much I wouldn't say that yeah okay maybe you wouldn't right but that sounds like it's actually a pretty loving thing to tell a person sounds like it's a pretty
02:27:25
Andrew Wilsonreasonable rational hang on hang on hang on hang on let me finish can I jump in super it sounds like it's completely reasonable and rational to say this to a person and it's even loving how is it
02:27:37
Axananot loving you just don't like the tone you just don't like how it's said well it is not the words I mean what matters is how you present it to the words words no words they matter all right you keep
02:27:48
Brian Atlasgoing you keep really quick I I I got to back my boy Andrew here on this my Caucasian I got to back him because I gained some weight I you know and I was I was
02:27:59
Brian Atlasmanifesting don't go there I was manifesting way more women with large labia when I was in better shape than I I'm a little chunky right now I'm a
02:28:11
Brian Atlaslittle chubby the manifestation has been impeded there's a there's an energy block and like the large lady women aren't coming to me as much as when I
02:28:22
Brian Atlaswas like could you Austin really quick just find my like young fit Brian photos like it was easy back in the day son like coming constantly manifesting I was
02:28:32
Mixed guestsdoing my astrology I was doing the the taichi so you were pulling BLM when you were skinny BLM all day every day so now you're struggling a little bit now sound
02:28:43
Brian Atlasjealous you sound jealous Brian pulling all that BL in I pull just as much as him so I ain't jealous okay um but I'm
02:28:52
Brian Atlasjust say I was skinny man I was thin I was thin and then um yep and uh Andrew's right man like I was
02:29:03
Andrew Wilsonmanifesting Giant lebia and I still you know it's not now it's normal laia look at what you've done it's terrible okay anyway sorry I didn't mean
02:29:13
Andrew Wilsonto but here but I mean here's the thing I mean it's it is it is actually a good point the the point is is that I don't think it's unloving to tell a person the truth and I think that it's just how you
02:29:25
Andrew Wilsonpresent I think no see I don't know about that either I think that sometimes the presentation's going to be hurtful no matter what and I think that sometimes it's actually good that it is you know I remember when I was young my
02:29:37
Andrew Wilsondad used to say [ __ ] to me all the time like here let me give you an example hey stop being a [ __ ] pansy right that was a good one and uh he was right right he was basically like that what he's
02:29:50
Andrew Wilsonsaying is stop bitching stop whining complaining go do what you're supposed to do he didn't give a [ __ ] how it made me feel he didn't care and why should he have the truth is is that I needed to do
02:30:02
Andrew WilsonI needed to do the things which I needed to do right to enter into the phase of what you would call manhood that type of thing uh it's not polite it's not always
02:30:10
Andrew Wilsonnice it's not always neat right but I just see it as kind of um kind of total cope when people say this like I don't make value judgments on how people look
02:30:22
Andrew WilsonI don't make value judgments on how people dress I don't make value Jud because we all do and the thing is is like you especially in your job are doing it all day long every single day and you're just kind of pretending
02:30:34
Axanayou're not can I answer now I listen to you right I heard you okay so my language in how you're presenting the information my choice is to actually present it in a motivating
02:30:46
Axanaway okay so if I know that the person present it to him how motivating more like motivating yeah motivating inspiring it's F it's fine I get it all the time it's fine all right go ahead
02:30:57
Axanayeah so uh for example if I uh see a client who yeah has extra weight in this circumstance right so I will explain the clients okay so here is what is going to be our options and this is what is going
02:31:10
Axanato take the time frame and this is how your relationship is actually going to be developing and this is how you will be presenting yourself this is how you need to answer the certain questions and explain and I do have clients who actually came from a marriage of many
02:31:22
Axanamany years and there was comfort you know they created for many many years they created the Comfort there they picked up weight spouse passed away now they're back in the dating world but it is about ex you know explaining and some
02:31:35
Axanapeople will understand okay and the other option if you want uh this and this and this and this then this is what will need to be required to make choice is yours which
02:31:48
Andrew Wilsonway you want I totally understand you're saying and let me let me steal man it or let me repeat it back so that you know I understand you're saying there's multiple ways to get at what it is you're trying to do if you want this
02:31:59
Andrew Wilsonthing then you need to do a b c and d some of that may include losing weight some of it may include dressing differently some of it may include making more or less money right you would agree that you're just offering
02:32:11
Andrew Wilsonthe idea of the choice that if you want this thing you need to do these things right right those are all value judgments every single one of those is a value judgment what you're making it
02:32:23
Andrew Wilsonwell it's you're taking the value of the person and you're matching it against the value of what they want and you're telling the person what they have to do in order to achieve the valuable thing
02:32:32
Andrew Wilsonthat they want which is going to include you making these judgments in your mind you're too fat not making you are you have to you literally have to or else
02:32:44
Andrew Wilsonyou couldn't tell them to lose the weight unless you're saying in value to this thing over over here which is better than you you have to lose the weight in order to get that thing you're
02:32:55
Andrew Wilsonliterally telling them okay you're tell you're making a value judgment a value assessment you're mapping it on to them and you're saying physically you need to do X so you're making a judgment I'm not
02:33:07
Axanasaying physically you need to do X I'm explaining what is going to happen and it's their choice what they want to do yeah I know it's I know it's their choice but the anyway I love all of them okay I do love them whatever they
02:33:19
Axanaoverweight as long as they're uh great wonderful and you know open-minded yeah I love all all of them and try not to judge why don't you love the close-minded people that's very judgmental because there is
02:33:31
Axanaa close-minded people they cannot create the uh fulfilling relationships very judgy for fulfilling relationship yeah but I mean that's all judgment it is not judgment yeah how is it not judgment the
02:33:44
Axanasecond you say you're too close right to do acts you're judging we are talking about whether or not I would be able to help them okay that's yeah but even that's a judgment that I I would not be
02:33:55
Andrew Wilsonall of that is making judgments yeah that I would not be able to help people to create Rel you you're too annoying to
02:34:04
Andrew Wilsonwork with or or or hang on let me f or you're too dumb to work with or uh your value you worship Satan so I can't you know if I say yeah exactly that's all
02:34:16
Axanavalue judgment but it is my choice I agree it's your choice but but you're still making judgments over and over and over again it's like one judgment after the next judgment after the next judgment and that's okay I think that's fine you see I'm not going to be judging you for
02:34:29
Axanacalling me to be judgmental I still love you Andrew fantastic okay you want the [Laughter] debate take a
02:34:42
Brian Atlasbreak okay feel like you're judging me right now here let's finish up with the question um better looking in 10 years time um maybe yeah so you're 20 right
02:34:55
Brian Atlasnow correct yeah uh so better looking at 30 yeah I could see that maybe better looking in 20 years time at 40 no okay uh you are 38 better looking in 10 years
02:35:06
Mixed gueststime yeah into the mic please uh 20 years time at 58 uh interesting question because when I was at 20 I thought that's oh my gosh I'm so beautiful but now when I saw the pictures with the
02:35:17
Alexandrablue eyeshadows with the plas 10 kg say oh my gosh it's so it's it's so much difference between 20 years ago and now
02:35:26
Brian Atlasbut now I feel yeah I'm better okay let me you said because of the the blue makeup the blue eyes Shadow yeah it's was here let me make it simple if you
02:35:38
Brian Atlashad the blue make if you had been wearing the blue makeup when you were 20 years old would you be more attractive at 20 but that's what she was wearing the
02:35:49
Mixed guests20 years old Blue makeup wait I me it's a blue eyes Shadow I mean no it's not a blue like the blue shadow when we look
02:35:58
Brian Atlaspictures of us on MySpace and stuff crazy okay hold on so I so you're 38 currently okay will you be more
02:36:10
Brian Atlasattractive in 10 years time at 48 48 we'll see okay so then the question got the I don't know how this
02:36:21
Brian Atlasmiscommunication occurred I then asked in 20 years time not when you were 20 in 20 years from now M when you're 58 mhm will you be more attractive then uh I
02:36:34
Brian Atlasthink no okay but you will be more attractive at 48 um no so you're more attractive now at 38 okay and then let's
02:36:43
Brian Atlasgo back in time you're 38 mhm were you more attractive 10 years ago at 28 no and then 20 years time were you more attractive at 18 than you are now at 38
02:36:55
Mixed guestsno and then between 18 and 28 you weren't more attractive at 18 than 38 yeah I told you why because of
02:37:03
Mixed guestsblue eyeshadow uh I was plus 10 kilg I you know what I want who I am and that's when I was yeah I'm beautiful but now when I
02:37:14
Axanasaw the pictures yeah 10 kg is uh 22 I think I'd rather like a kids like a I don't know yeah so
02:37:24
Mixed guestsI don't know you like a you know like a baby baby face yeah and 20 years ago so I look like really like a a I think I I
02:37:34
Brian Atlaswould still say even like a girl who's chubby at 20 like a little chubby at 20 is going to be more attractive than her like super Fitness
02:37:44
Andrew Wilson40-year-old self hot take there based on Whose judgment your so we would be looking at it through commonality so yeah I agree it would be subjective to a degree but we would just
02:37:57
Andrew Wilsonlook kind of look at a consensus of agreement so we just say what would be the consensus of the most like if we had 10 men here would eight of them agree with us uhhuh right that's the only way
02:38:07
Andrew WilsonI can we can really kind of measure that type of judgment right it's just based on the consensus of what most people intuitively think about it so that's how
02:38:17
Andrew Wilsonattraction works so I do think that Brian's likely right that most men would take a a woman who was you know 21 22 23 24 who had a couple extra pounds on her
02:38:30
Andrew WilsonI'm not saying heavy but she had a couple extra pounds versus a woman who was her fit self at 40 I think that they would so then it is based on their opinion based on uh how men judge woman
02:38:42
Andrew Wilsonbut you ask who are you trying to be attractive for yeah but you ask what is her op hang on hang on I'm sorry are you trying to to get women to marry themselves well you're asking yeah I'm
02:38:53
Andrew Wilsonasking you a question are you trying to ask a woman to marry themselves no no who do you want them to marry men then so if you want them to marry men who's who's hang on Whose values whose value
02:39:06
Axanajudgment are we going to use here if you want them to marry men not their then the question needs to be organized in that way based on uh man's opinion do you think you were 18 uh PR you were I
02:39:20
Andrew Wilsonthink it's more Primal too right cuz that's like Peak reproductive years for a woman like a man's more attracted to of yeah why would that not be the case if you're in your primary reproductive years that's when you're going to see the highest amount of Attraction of
02:39:32
Andrew Wilsoncourse that's the reason that when uh men and women are reporting this they their attracted levels right women will often say look I like a man around my own age or or this kind of thing when
02:39:44
Andrew Wilsonwhen it's asked to men uh almost all of them say yeah I prefer a woman in their early 20s right oh yeah I prefer a woman in the early 20s because uh for for us what we
02:39:55
Andrew Wilsonwould find attractive of course uh would be women who are in their reproductive years why wouldn't we find that to be the most attractive well usually um what people get surgery for it's like when
02:40:07
Mixed guestsyou look more youthful they want to look look you want to look like you're in those reproductive you literally get fillers and stuff like that to look more younger and like when you get older you're you kind of deflate and you look
02:40:19
Mixed guestsmore more skin saggy and stuff like that so that's why 18 19 20 I mean to your to your question right if we're asking a woman about her physical Beauty right
02:40:32
Andrew Wilsonsaying how do you judge yourself on a scale of 1 to 10 for your physical Beauty how are they going to judge that absent the eye of men that's what I want to know how could that even be assessed
02:40:43
Andrew Wilsonabsent The Observer how could you even how can you even assess that other than the comparison of the opposite sex the reason I know that I'm not good-look is because plenty of women tell me right so
02:40:55
Rebeccait's like but how else would I know maybe like beauty standards right like models like magazines whatever the internet social media I feel like it can be based on that too right a little bit well but that's the same thing you're
02:41:06
Andrew Wilsonlooking at what the opposite sex is viewing as as what is beautiful what is not I don't ever see women going well I know that men find this repulsive and that's why I do it right they don't do
02:41:18
Andrew Wilsonthat they do the opposite they're like this gives me the most amount of male attention so I do that makes total sense to me but I don't even I I don't actually know how you can judge your own
02:41:29
Mixed guestsBeauty standard absent the eye of the opposite sex I honestly don't know how I think it's from like even like our own standards even like growing up like watching like Disney Princesses and
02:41:39
Mixed guestsstuff like that looking at what beauty is so now Beauty to who Beauty to little girls what we see it's yeah what you see the prince wants uh actually I feel like every day us waking up what we see like
02:41:51
Mixed guestsI feel like when everybody wakes up like we look skinnier our stomach's flatter everybody but why are you comparing those as beauty standards if it's a subjective metric I don't think it's also like necessarily like depending on what men want I think it's kind of like
02:42:03
Mixed guestswomen like to look feel pretty like I feel like if feel pretty for who ourselves there's it's both it can be ourselves so you want other women to think you're hot no me I like to think that I'm pretty like when I wake up if I if my Skin's breaking out if I feel like
02:42:16
Andrew WilsonI'm gaining weight if I feel like um yeah okay sure but I think that the reason that you would say that okay so like let's pretend that you're marooned on a desert island and nobody can see you right why do you give a [ __ ] at that
02:42:29
Mixed guestspoint if your hair isn't fresh and you're that you don't care right what what would be the point what would be the point of caring I people sometimes a lot of people are a vain like my mother says this quote the more prettier you are the more it hurts when it's gone if
02:42:41
Andrew Wilsonyou constantly look at yourself in the mirror and you feel like your looks is your strong suit you literally because you think other people are judging looks that's where vanity comes from vanity
02:42:51
Andrew Wilsonwould come from the idea that I'm pretty and you know I'm pretty right because you know I'm pretty I can do X thing right I get this attention otherwise what would be the vanity the Van Vanity
02:43:03
Andrew Wilsoncomes from oh I have this thing that you want right and so I it builds me up it builds my confidence up right so you could be like a vain guitar player because you're the best in the world or you could be vain with all sorts of
02:43:16
Andrew Wilsondifferent things the question becomes though is like what builds that vanity up I think that the idea that you can judge beauty standards assess your own beauty standards absent the idea of what the opposite sex things is just absurd I
02:43:28
Nikki/April (mixed)don't know where you'd get the standard from well I feel like if like let's say men didn't exist and it was just women and um I think that psychologically we
02:43:38
Nikki/April (mixed)would start to notice like who's healthy and who's just like you know like doing life right and we would start to like look at think you guys would get fake boobs for each other no I don't I do not
02:43:49
Nikki/April (mixed)think so but I think like as far as like a beauty standard we would start to like look at certain people who seem to really be thriving and like healthy and we'd be we would want that for our is that even a beauty standard at that point or is that just a health standard
02:44:02
Nikki/April (mixed)or some other standard that we're applying when we're talking about beauty yeah yeah okay I suppose I like I get what you like if there was never men to like look pretty for why would we want to look when you assess what is
02:44:12
Andrew Wilsonbeautiful right isn't it the woman who the men are paying attention to yeah yeah I guess that's true I mean that's how else do you assess it so I think whatever I'm sorry whatever you think
02:44:24
Andrew Wilsonthat is pretty in your standard like if you look at girls with huge noses that's not pretty but here let's let's hit let's let's find some common ground sure it's whatever you think within your standard I'm just asking what informs
02:44:35
Mixed gueststhe standard [ __ ] I feel like it matters yeah like honestly what informs the standard I'm just assuming I don't know this is kind of how like I just you just inform yourself I'm looking at what is
02:44:48
Mixed guestswhat I see like I'm saying on TV what you see on TV what you see what you think is pretty and I feel like what is pretty what everybody knows that's pretty thin yeah so you have an informed
02:44:58
Mixed guestsstandard based on what you see the male attention getting on TV I can't say it's necessarily for men though cuz I still feel like I have to
02:45:09
Axanamake sure what makes a Disney princess pretty small waist pretty hair big nice lip what makes that pretty I am not even
02:45:17
Andrew Wilsonsure but is it got a dream life it's because the prince who shows up is buff as [ __ ] and and and you know
02:45:27
Andrew Wilsonhe kisses Sleeping Beauty and she gets the kingdom that's what makes her pretty right I mean how else do you would form it so I mean tell me I'm wrong well I'm saying I if like you said on a desert
02:45:39
Mixed guestsisland by myself yeah if I'm actually like in like um H scarves and like rags and stuff it's like if my body's looking SL am not looking good I was like oh I look good like damn it sucks I'm not with nobody
02:45:52
Andrew Wilsonright now but [ __ ] I look good that's based on preconceived notions already poisoned well right that have already informed your beauty standards so let's take it instead say on the desert island
02:46:03
Mixed guestsyou've never seen another woman MH what would inform him I guess I'm not even sure if I'm saying like I it's embedded in us so whatever I I guess he is well then now
02:46:16
Mixed guestsit's Universal so now we can judge one to 10 I think yeah everybody judges hell yeah want a slim way of I'm stranded on
02:46:27
Brian Atlasan island um well you're going to get one oh yeah look sexy a win is a win uh just getting answers from everybody so uh you are 20 better looking in 10 years
02:46:38
Brian Atlastime at 30 I say yes 20 years time at 40 no okay and then uh you are 38 do you think your looks you'll be better looking in 10 years
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Brian Atlasat 48 versus now at 38 no okay and you're 38 were you were you better looking 10 years ago at
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Brian Atlas28 yes and then 20 years ago at 18 no so 28 was like Peak for you you would say uh uh I would say right now wait so you're better looking uh now at 38 than
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Brian Atlasyou were at 18 yeah
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Axanayou are the best there's a there's a lot of that going on in Russia huh a lot of which of that a lot of really ugly 18-year-olds who Bloom into beautiful flowers at 40 you have no idea what is
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Axanagoing on in Russia for the young women all of these words that you guys not supposed to be talking about is going on you walk on the street oh no no I agree there's tons those poor women in the Ukraine who they don't have their men
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Axanabecause they're out fighting on the front lines to make sure that they they stay free of Russian you see uh we are kind of generation I feel terrible for them Andrew uh so we are the generation
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Axanathat we were born uh and we were in our teenage years when uh Mafia was ruling everything police couldn't do anything so you walk on the street I'm sorry but
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Brian Atlaswhat does that have to do with the how we feel as women about the looks he's Andrew is making a point about man all these women when Russian women who
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Brian Atlasare actually have reputations for being more attractive than their Western counterparts they're ugly at 18 but then
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Axanathey glow up at 40 we come to United States where you man make us actually feeling better about ourselves so it's cope it's pure C over there over there
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Mixed guestsseven women to one guy we have to come so we're back to how we feel about it again so no I have a thing what imagine like you took a photo like I have just photos L out you know nothing about them you don't know the history of what
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Mixed gueststhey've been through into the ra on the picture if it was just a picture of you like you don't know anything yes vers now like you're a different person
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Axanathat's a good question uh I remember some of the pictures from that time of myself and I if you ask my opinion I
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Andrew Wilsondon't think I look better back then cool my opinion how others men well we had to hide quite a bit okay hang on let me ask let me let me ask you this let me ask