Cat Fight RAGE QUIT! BIG ANNOUNCEMENT! Andrew Wilson IN STUDIO! ( ° °) | Dating Talk #182
Date: 2024-07-29
Duration: 6h 52m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_01TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_02Jolie Elena(guest)
SPEAKER_03Selena Imai(guest)
SPEAKER_04MJ / Morgan(guest)
SPEAKER_05Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Ally(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas (fragments)(host)
SPEAKER_08TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_10Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_12TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_14Andrew Wilson(guest)
Key Moments
00:00:23
IntroBrian Atlas opens show, apologizes for late start due to no-shows/flakes.
“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape I'm your host Brian Atlas”
00:02:50
IntroMJ introduces: age 22, UCSB grad (film/media and religious studies double major), Palm Springs, unemployed.
“my name is MJ I'm 22 years old um I am a recent UCSB graduate and I studied film and media and religious studies”
00:03:37
IntroSelena introduces: age 19, from LA, occupation is porn star since January 2024.
“my name is Selena I'm 19 I'm from LA and my occupation is porn star”
00:03:49
IntroCC (Claudia) introduces: age 20, pharmacy tech. Roommate had family emergency.
“hi my name's Claudia I go by CC um I'm 20 years old and my occupation is I'm a pharmacy tech”
00:04:33
IntroJesse Taylor introduces: 26, Clearwater FL/LA, CX Network, TikTok #1 comedy, OnlyFans, music, property, getting married, has a baby.
“hi I'm Jesse Taylor I am from Clearwater Florida born and raised and I live out in Los Angeles um I own property um I manage my property I was fortunate enough to buy my house in cash”
00:06:30
IntroJolie Elena introduces: 19, criminology/justice studies bachelor's (simultaneously earned associate's), content creator @jolieelena on TikTok/Instagram/YouTube.
“hello my name is Jolie Elena I am 19 years old um I just graduated from cesson with my bachelor's in criminology and Justice studies”
00:07:30
IntroAndrew Wilson introduces: host of The Crucible (fastest growing YouTube debate channel), political analyst.
“my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible it's the fastest growing YouTube debate channel”
00:08:02
OtherBig announcement: Brian and Andrew launch debateuniversity.com 'Verbal Combat' course. 80+ videos, 6 hours.
“me and Andrew have uh teamed up we've released a course called verbal combat that's available at debate university.com”
02:51:40
ControversyJesse escalates fight: threatens to sue, calls Selena a prostitute, brags about having $100k cash, calls others broke losers. Near-physical confrontation.
“until you have $100,000 in cash I don't want you to talk to me okay bring me $100,000”
03:09:10
ControversyJesse Taylor rage-quits the show after mic mute by viewer Gerald. Andrew says 'give us the rage quit'. Jesse leaves saying 'I think I should go'.
“I think I should just remove myself before I anybody else... I think I should go”
03:10:00
OtherBrian pops champagne after Jesse's rage quit. Thanks Gerald for the mic mute donation. Called it 'scary'. Praised Selena for handling it 'like a trooper'.
“scary um you handle that like a TR good job uh AB Che thank for the gift to 20 memberships”
03:13:46
OtherBrian introduces Morgan as replacement guest mid-show. Morgan is 18, city college, political science.
“welcome we have Morgan joining us Morgan uh do you want to introduce yourself Morgan”
03:14:10
IntroMorgan introduces: 18, city college, political science major.
“okay that's it they know go to the city college and I'm majoring in political”
03:14:40
OtherRatings round begins: Brian asks panel to rate looks 1-10, can't pick 7.
“ask everyone to rate their looks on the scale of one to 10 can't pick seven”
03:47:20
QuoteJolie presents anti-promiscuity argument: female sexual scarcity is women's power over men.
“there's scarcity in um there's value in not being sexually promiscuous and and there's so much value that comes from it that you'll be treated much better for it”
04:54:12
QuoteWhatever stats displayed: 181 episodes, 1,381 guest appearances, 80% non-sex-worker vs 20% sex worker/OF.
“181 episodes longest show was number 177 longest show 9 hours... 1,381 guests we've had 168 repeat appearances”
05:37:09
ControversyBody count round. Selena: porn body count ~100 scenes; civilian count unclear (~10 estimated). CC: stated 5 (with ambiguous 'multiply by 3' comment).
“what's everybody's body count... starting with Selena what is uh body count um I don't know my body count but I don't count the porn bodies”
05:46:00
QuoteBrian offers Selena a call to action: commit on the podcast to quit sex work entirely.
“would you consider stopping sex work entirely and making a commitment on the whatever podcast to stop”
06:00:00
OtherAndrew asks Selena to confirm definitionally: men pay her for penetrative sex on camera = prostitution?
“you can confirm that men do pay you to have penetrative sex on camera for the purposes of sexually gratifying other people”
06:30:00
OtherShow end. Brian thanks panel; 'only the DJs (Selena and CC) made it to the end'. Raid to SandTV.
“GG well played to the panel those of you who made it to the goddamn end... W Selena W CeCe”
Topics Discussed
00:00:23
Show open / announcements / debate university promo
Brian opens show with announcements. Apologizes for late start due to no-shows and flakes. Guests introduce themselves. Big announcement: debateuniversity.com 'Verbal Combat' course (80+ videos, 6 hours) launched by Brian and Andrew Wilson. Trailer played.
00:02:50
Guest introductions / relationship status round
All guests introduce themselves (name, age, location, occupation). Relationship status round follows — each guest shares current status, longest relationship. MJ discusses 'special connections' vs dating; Selena discusses only-fans/porn work context; Jesse discusses engagement and baby; CC discusses long-term boyfriend since age 14; Jolie discusses views on promiscuity and dating standards.
01:34:40
Traditional relationships / submissiveness debate
Selena discusses wanting traditional dominant-submissive dynamic despite her porn career. Andrew and Brian challenge the contradiction. Selena cannot articulate what she brings to the table. Discussion on what men with traditional values would want from a partner.
01:36:00
Age gap dating debate
Discussion on older men dating younger women. Whether men who date younger women are predatory or simply more attractive. MJ argues circumstantial; Andrew argues generalizations are valid. CC (SPEAKER_05) makes biological clock arguments. Jolie (SPEAKER_02) discusses benefits of dating older men. Panel mostly concedes age gaps are acceptable.
01:53:20
Porn industry / long-term consequences debate
Extended debate on whether Selena's porn career will have long-term consequences for relationships. Andrew argues risk mitigation logic; Selena acknowledges consequences but continues. CC (Jesse/SPEAKER_05) escalates argument with Selena about hypocrisy (OnlyFans vs porn). Family structure arguments; Christian household upbringing; parental acceptance. Andrew offers: 'If you quit now you have a good chance it gets buried.'
02:51:40
Jesse Taylor rage quit / cat fight
Jesse (SPEAKER_05) escalates fight with CC and Selena. Rapid insults about body count, OnlyFans, money, property, intelligence. Near-physical confrontation (~2:21). Jesse gets mic-muted by viewer Gerald (mic mute donation). Jesse rage-quits at ~3:09:10. Brian pops champagne afterward. Panel discusses Jesse's behavior; chat later DMs Brian with alleged sex videos of Jesse.
03:14:40
Self-ratings round (looks 1-10, can't pick 7)
Brian asks panel to rate looks 1-10 (can't pick 7, after Morgan joins). MJ: 8 -> 6. CC/others: 8 -> 6. Selena: 8 (face 6, body 8) -> 3 vs Megan Fox. Jolie: 8 -> 4-5 vs Megan Fox. Morgan: 6.5. Andrew: 4 then 5. Andrew challenges the concept of subjective self-rating without objective comparison. Chat votes Jolie over 38-year-old Megan Fox.
03:14:40
Will women age better debate
Andrew asks if panel will be better looking in 10-20 years. Jolie thinks yes at 29, uncertain at 39. CC thinks she'll peak in her 30s-40s. Selena thinks she could be a milf at 40. Brian argues most 35-40yo women are not as attractive as 19-20yo women; panel concedes.
03:47:20
Promiscuity / body count / sexual standards debate
Jolie presents strong anti-promiscuity argument: female sexual scarcity is women's power; sleeping around destroys dating market. Debate on whether men caring about body count is insecure. Selena defends not judging body count; says men who care about body count due to comparison anxiety are insecure. Andrew presents evolutionary paternity uncertainty argument for male disgust at promiscuity.
04:00:00
Polygamy / red pill ideology critique
Jolie critiques Fresh & Fit style influencers promoting polygamy. Andrew presents evolutionary argument for why asymmetric polygamy (one man, many women) is more evolutionarily stable than polyandry. Debate on whether normalizing it on platforms is harmful. Jolie agrees with Islamic polygamy context (historical scarcity of men) but disagrees with modern normalization.
04:21:40
Feminist identification / women on easy mode debate
Brian asks if anyone considers themselves feminist. Selena: technically yes but doesn't label herself. Others similar. Andrew: if you believe in equality you can't avoid the feminist label if you think women need advocates. All agree women have it on easy mode for quantity of dating. Jolie argues women have it easier for quantity but harder for quality. Andrew challenges the quality/quantity framing.
04:54:05
Debate university / verbal combat announcement (second plug)
Brian and Andrew re-announce debateuniversity.com Verbal Combat course launch. 80+ videos, 6 hours of content. Monthly Q&A membership group. Brian tipsy from champagne pops during announcement.
04:54:12
Whatever stats review (181 episodes)
Brian displays audience-compiled Whatever Podcast stats: 181 episodes, longest show #177 at 9 hours. 1,381 total guest appearances, 168 repeat appearances, 1,145 unique guests. Top guests: Andrew (36x), Chase (13x), Q (11x), Prio (9x), Shania (9x). Average guest age: 25. Relationship status breakdown: mostly single. Sex worker breakdown: ~80% non-sex worker, ~17% OnlyFans, ~3% professional sex worker.
04:55:00
Women's voting rights / military draft debate
Andrew argues women should not be able to vote for politicians who can send men to war when women cannot be drafted. Selena struggles with the logic. Andrew offers compromise: women can only vote on non-military matters. Selena concedes she hadn't considered voting. Panel discussion on women's rights being secured by male soldiers (force doctrine).
05:01:40
Dad bod vs six pack debate
Brian reacts to tweet claiming women prefer dad bods over six packs. Panel discusses whether the 'dad bod' shown is actually average. Jason Momoa comparison. Brief discussion on body hair, shaving.
05:37:09
Body count reveal round
Brian asks everyone's body count. Selena: civilian ~10 (uncertain); porn scenes ~100 in 7 months; worked with ~4 women and many men (some repeats). Jesse (already left). CC: approximately 5 (said '5, multiply by 3 for the real number'). Morgan/Maddie: 'if you know you know'. Jolie implied zero (virgin). Discussion on porn body count vs civilian body count distinction.
06:00:00
Selena / prostitution definition debate
Andrew asks Selena whether men paying her for penetrative sex on camera is prostitution by definition. Selena disagrees; does not consider herself a prostitute. Andrew walks through the definitional argument. Brian asks Selena to commit on the show to quitting porn; she declines.
Transcript
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MJ / Morganahead my name is MJ I'm 22 years old what's up Nick got
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MJ / Morganit is it yeah sound good my name is MJ I'm 22 years old um I
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MJ / Morganam a recent UCSB graduate and I studied film and media and religious studies um yeah currently unemployed but looking
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Brian Atlasfor work film media and what and religious studies religious studies mhm is that a minor or major no it was a double major double major so film and media and then the religious studies
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Selena Imaithat's the those are the two majors okay and you said you're from where again I'm from Palm Springs originally Palm Springs got it what about you um my
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Selena Imainame is Selena I'm 19 I'm from LA and my occupation is porn star all right how long you've been doing that for um since
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / AllyJanuary okay all right hi my name's Claudia I go by CC um I'm 20 years old and my occupation is I'm a pharmacy tech what happened to your friend who was uh supposed to be
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyhere with you my roommate um she was supposed to come but it was maybe it was just a too too much of a fun night last night she couldn't wake up now she told me she had a family emergency she did
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyhave a family emergency cuz she's in s Santa Cruz so she's what she's in Santa Cruz she's in Santa Cruz with her family but she said she had a fly that's why
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyshe FES to Santa Cruz she flew to Santa like today mhm I don't believe it but okay all right what about you hi I'm Jesse Taylor I am
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyfrom Clearwater Florida born and raised and I live out in Los Angeles um I own property um I manage my property I was fortunate enough to buy my house in cash
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyso I kind of do that and then I do music with my boyfriend he's a um he's a gold record producer and then um I sing um
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / AllyI've been an influencer since TW the end of 2016 um I was on a TV show and um I was part of the original streaming group with ice
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allypidan called the CX Network and I was one of the original members and I also was the number one Creator on Tik Tok for comedy um at the end of 2021
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allybeginning of 202 um throughout 2022 and um I have an only fans but yeah and I'm also a mother and I'm getting married that was quite possibly the
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allylongest introduction ever made well I need to like explain by your I gu from it was thorough the largest comedy channel on Tik Tok well yeah throughout
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Ally2022 I did public pranks and um public questions so yeah but I gave that up cuz I ended up getting a boyfriend and were you running that with somebody else no just like myself I had like a manager at
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allythe time but I like gave that up I still do music but um to like be with my boyfriend and kind of like put put social media on hold and just kind of like start a
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyfamily age oh um 26 all right my name is Madison I'm 19 I'm currently working at the whatever
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allypodcast and I'm also student at Santa Barbara City College um studying business and communication all basically what about
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyyou U my name is Ally I'm 18 um I'm from New York and I I am a student at UC
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Jolie ElenaSanta Barbara all right welcome hello my name is Jolie Elena I am 19 years old um I just graduated from cesson with my
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Jolie Elenabachelor's in criminology and Justice studies I've an associates and I also got my associate simultaneously in
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Jolie Elenageneral education for social sciences I do sorry uh I do content put post
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Jolie Elenacontent on Tik Tok and Instagram at Jolie Elena j o l i e e l e n a and
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Jolie Elenamy YouTube channel with the same name what kind of content um I it's kind of random but I post like kind of like
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Jolie Elenaopinionated stuff and sometimes it's fun stuff but opinions uh consp I did like a video on YouTube about a conspiracy I researched so yeah okay
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Andrew WilsonAndrew what about you yeah my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible it's the fastest growing YouTube debate channel to my knowledge anywhere um political saturnist and political analyst and uh I like to
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Brian Atlasengage in debates now and again all right welcome everybody and uh very good to have Andrew back in the studio uh me and Andrew actually have a uh big announcement guys so uh we've been
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Brian Atlasworking on this for uh 6 months now me and Andrew we are launching a debate course a debate program as you guys know we both get in involved in uh
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Brian Atlasvarious kinds of uh debates on the show Andrew has his own channel where where he uh recently debated uh with Destiny and had a fantastic performance but we're launching a program it's called
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Brian Atlasdebate University you can find it at debate university.com have we made a determination is to the program is verbal combat yeah verbal combat
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Andrew Wilsonyep but we also are are do we have two names for it well debate University is the flagship that all the content will go under yes but the the main course that's on it right now is called verbal
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Brian Atlascombat yes and uh you can find it in De debate university.com we're going to pull that up in just a sec guys we have uh 80 can you pull that up Nick the website first uh hide that please so we have 80
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Brian Atlasplus modules uh if you can maybe put us on the other side yeah uh there's 80 plus modules 6 hours of video and uh we've been working tirelessly to uh get
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Brian Atlasthis launched we uh it's been uh many months in the making so if you guys want check it out debate university.com there's the course
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Brian Atlasoffering and then we also have a what's going to be a private membership group that and me and Andrew are going to be doing monthly Q&A sessions on there uh and it's going to be private members
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Brian Atlasonly group and um we also have a trailer that we want to play really quick Nick if you can get that going and
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Brian Atlasum yeah go ahead the trailer please you can uh why don't you I think hide us just hide us yeah yeah all right
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Andrew Wilsongo ahead your job is not to show mercy your job is not to back off and allow them to maintain their false ideas that's not
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Andrew Wilsonyour job it is nebulous I understand it's nebulous but I'm also not the one who's making the affirmative claim you are so let's start with some dirty
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Andrew Wilsontricks some dirty tricks some kind of hitting below the belt God damn it you're still whining stop whining product I I'll smack your honestly does
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Andrew Wilsonyour dad say thank you for prostituting yourself so I have air conditioning now as we hang on hang on let me finish my sir sure sure sure go ahead so as we dive into this though by the the way you
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Audio clip/unknownsay that you can't make a deterministic statement which is a deterministic statement how again how dumb are you V debate is a weapon especially in the 21st century when living in the
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Andrew Wilsoninformation age about this debate is over goodbye goodbye jack ass I'm not interested in your stupid prattle answer my question that makes no sense that's the stupidest thing I've heard out of
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Brian Atlasyou tonight why would you do anything if you didn't care and pull up the site again Nick aw debate university.com guys and
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Brian Atlasby the way we're going to you know there's going to be uh what's that term from video games DLC there'll be DLC you know so uh we we might be we'll be adding modules as uh uh as the months
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Brian Atlasprogress so uh be sure to check it out debate university.com anyways we'll get right into the show we're going to go around the table once more well hang on let me uh oh did you one more sorry let
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Andrew Wilsonme say a couple goad let me say a couple things so seven seven out of 10 messages that I get are from people who want to know how to have better rhetorical skills and how to debate better that's I mean far more than half of people who
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Andrew Wilsoncontact me that's what they're contacting me for so that's the entire reason that we did the project so I have a place to refer people to for just that thing so go check it out tons of you who
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Andrew Wilsonare watching right now have probably dm' me asking for just this and here it is it's everything that you wanted everything cool so we're going to go
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Brian Atlasaround the table once more what is everybody's current relationship status are you single talking stage situationship Friends with Benefits relationship married polyu sex cult Harum whatever it may be if you're
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MJ / Morgansingle how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in go ahead I am currently single um and I've actually never been
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MJ / Morganin a relationship um so yeah um have you ever so never had a boyfriend no not like a committed boyfriend no not a committed boyfriend
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MJ / Morganso you've had a boyfriend but he cheated on you no it's you know um I've been in relationships with people for long periods of time and I've been asked to be you know people's
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MJ / Morgangirlfriends but I've never been someone's girlfriend there was never that title on it what's the you said youve been in relationships what's the longest relationship you've been
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Brian Atlasin probably like 8 months and is that the guy who asked you to be his uh Girlfriend
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MJ / Morganyes and you said no yeah why is that because it isn't it wasn't what I wanted at the time why did you date him for eight months then um probably
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TTS/Donationsbecause of uh things I hadn't resolved Within Myself at the time opinionated bro donated
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TTS/Donations$69 Andrew I like you but you rarely portray Christian morals on here anymore plus lately misogyny SL anger are hurting your credibility however you did hilariously own Wes Watson giving me the
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Brian Atlasbest laugh all year you want to respond to that Andrew [ __ ] you all right there you go thank you opinionated Pro all
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MJ / Morganright uh you said you were working through some issues I just kind of had realizations about what I what was truly healthy and
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MJ / Morganwhat was not and so I decided to not pursue anything further and like looking back I do think that things could have played out differently but that just wasn't the case so but now I'm single
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MJ / Morganhow long have you been single um I don't really know I I haven't been
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MJ / Morgankeeping keeping track was there um are you currently talking to a guy um like I talk to guys and the go on dates but
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MJ / Morgannothing like serious or um do you have a roster right now I wouldn't say a roster no I
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MJ / Morganwouldn't call that a roster what would you say it is um I have certain I feel special a special type of connection to certain people in my life
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MJ / Morganand I have experiences with people but I wouldn't say that's necessarily a roster I don't have like a list of names that I'm going through and like hitting up
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Brian Atlaswhen you know I want something from people you said you have special connections with people yeah in your life how many special connections do you have
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MJ / Morgancurrently
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MJ / Morganum maybe like it's really hard to actually answer that question because you know people come and go and I just graduated so people have like come into my life and left my
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MJ / Morganlife uh so I couldn't really give you a solid number on that yeah I'll try to make it a little easier so um you said you just graduated and then maybe other
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Brian Atlaspeople are back home during the summertime uh if we just rewind 4 months ago mhm so that brings us to April let's say April prior to UCSB letting out how
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Brian Atlasmany special connections did you have then I was exclusive with one person at was that the 8mon guy no okay how long were you exclusive with
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Brian Atlasthe guy back in April 4 months four months when did that end in May in April okay let me fast forward one month so let's go to May um how many special
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MJ / Morganconnections did you have that I wasn't counting but like special connections is in
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MJ / MorganI just don't Define it in like um in in uh love is complicated for me man I
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MJ / Morgandon't want to answer that question well yeah I'm I'm really confused as to what a special connection is right I don't mind that you're confused I don't
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Brian Atlasthink that's the question I want to answer well it's kind of like that's the purpose of the show is to talk about people's actually Rel right relationship
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Brian Atlassituations um are you currently like dating a couple people right now no do you have a special connection with
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Brian Atlasanybody right now yes okay so do you you take issue we're not dating well so you take issue
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MJ / Morganwith the term dating to you dating would would that imply what I think it's because actually people who I develop a relationship with tend to be my friends
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MJ / Morganfirst for a long time so that's why it kind of complicates it because even if something happens between us or we have a romantic connection they are still my
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MJ / Morganfriend first at least in my the way that I my perspective on it mhm um I prioritize our friendship before anything else so it doesn't feel like
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MJ / Morganit's a roster necessarily because it's not I don't view them as you know well I have a question for you [Music] brixon uncore isore daddy donated
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TTS/Donations$69 brixon your dumper be looking dumpy tonight tell the narcissistic strumpets to be considerate of the live viewers Andrew you making Destiny squirm like a
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Brian Atlas3004 in church was the highlight of the week all right for me too my dumper it be looking dumpy tonight thank you appreciate that
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TTS/Donationsthat's no just I need L paladins donated $69 sorry a little bit behind but low at how quickly my roommate had a late night turned into family emergency boys keep
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Brian Atlaslying for one another that's why I can't trust any woman ever I wasn't lying I was not lying you should honestly I unless she like were to send me like a
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Brian Atlasflight itinerary I just refuse to believe people when they make up these lies about no because she used to play in soccer and now she lives out here in Downey by with me and her family's all in Santa Cruz I don't believe yeah but
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Brian Atlasshe said she had a fly I just unless she shows me like a ticket her well I mean I don't really care she's not here but I just it's irrelevant people just
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Brian Atlaslie all the time to get out of things so I mean yeah that's to do so I need to fix some there's some funky things going on over there on can you put it on split really quick
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Brian Atlasyeah that was weird how it's getting like cut off I'm not sure okay um so so never had a boyfriend oh go ahead and
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Andrew Wilsonyeah so I wanted to ask you um from your perspective what is a girlfriend or a
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MJ / Morganboyfriend I think that's someone who you have consciously chosen to pursue kind of a a partnership with where there's a
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MJ / Morganshared goal and you guys are moving towards that shared goal together um and I think a label is involved where a conversation has had and that's decided that you guys are going to be going on a
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MJ / Morganjourney together whether you know that be forever yeah like a journey together you know um it's all about the journey honestly yeah it is so how would
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MJ / Morganyou define a special connection I think ESP there's certain people and I know not everyone believes in this but there's certain people that
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MJ / Morganyou meet who I like to the way I view it is that people act as either a door a mirror or a window kind of and there's people that
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MJ / Morganyou meet who will either reflect yourself back to you um open a door for you and show you how a different way that life could be
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MJ / Morganor maybe give you a glimpse of something that you want but isn't necessarily in your reach just yet and I think that there's been certain men in my life who
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MJ / MorganI've met who have brought out the parts of me that have questions that need answering and that relationship that I the emotions that I feel through a
00:21:09
MJ / Morganrelationship like that often become romantic and that's when a connection for me becomes special sounds almost like um like um esoteric Sex Magic right
00:21:21
Andrew Wilsonslightly sure yeah um so you have um so you have friends and they teach you stuff and then you
00:21:31
MJ / Morganend up in a romantic relationship with them you can yeah but I think that mature communication is really important when it comes to those situations cuz
00:21:42
MJ / Morganyou can actually end up complicating your life quite a bit um when you don't have open communication with people who you love um what do those men teach
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MJ / Morganyou I think mo more recently they've taught me about like specifically this one person that I have in mind has taught me the
00:22:06
MJ / Morgandifference between like I feel like I'm constantly trying to get closer to the truth whatever that may be and I've realized that there is a really big difference
00:22:18
MJ / Morganbetween perception and perspective and how we lack understanding amongst each other because we fail to see the differences in our perspectives because of our own
00:22:31
MJ / Morganperception which is built on our own personal life experiences and all these labels that we give ourselves that form our identities and um
00:22:42
MJ / Morganit's they they teach me about who I the woman I want to be and also maybe where I'm failing to kind of step up to the plate failing to take on responsibility
00:22:54
MJ / Morganout of fear maybe running away from myself in certain ways where actually certain people will highlight that I'm strong enough and brave enough to
00:23:03
MJ / Morganconfront those dark sides of myself and the way I view my relationships is in a very spiritual way so I that that's what
00:23:14
MJ / MorganI grow to appreciate and maybe that's never led to a relationship for me but it's because it really just wasn't you know I do believe in Divine timing and
00:23:26
MJ / Morganit wasn't it wasn't right you know so just hadn't fit okay
00:23:34
Brian Atlasmhm um so are you currently seeing somebody no currently I am not special connections though you said
00:23:44
Brian Atlasyou've you currently have multiple special connections yeah so I'm I'm trying to word this in such a way because you didn't you didn't like the dating divinely inspired special
00:23:57
Andrew Wilsonconnection yeah yeah so you just been celibate for 4 months uh well I mean that wouldn't be a very special connection now would
00:24:10
MJ / Morganit um no I haven't been sell bit
00:24:19
Brian Atlasbut so when I use the word dating or date that sort of encap that can encapsulate everything from a one night
00:24:27
Brian Atlasstand to like super serious boyfriend and girlfriend just as an umbrella term so I know it's sounded like you had a different definition of because I asked you if you're dating anybody right
00:24:40
Andrew Wilsonor if you've dated these people yeah that's why we're trying to figure out the distinction when you say special connection that's why I'm asking what would the difference between that and dating be kind of under your worldview you know what I mean yeah it's people
00:24:53
MJ / Morganthat I encounter on a day-to-day that I've built a relationship with a friendship with and we hang out do certain things together um like as
00:25:02
MJ / Morganfriends but then maybe suddenly there's a kind of shift in in uh the way that we feel about each other but I'm not necessarily hooking up with those people
00:25:14
MJ / Morganthat's why I don't consider it to be dating them like it's it doesn't necessarily have to Encompass all the things that you might consider when you
00:25:26
Andrew Wilsonthat imply that that implies so I I see that I understand you don't like labels I get that right but the way that human beings associate things is through labeling them right that's how we have a
00:25:38
Andrew Wilsonframe of reference to point in something so if you had to take this idea of special connection and put a label on it which commonly would be understood what would it be closest
00:25:54
MJ / Morganto just friends that I'm attracted to kind of like Friends with Benefits no no no it's I I prefer not to Define it
00:26:07
Andrew Wilsonhonestly but if but if you could put a label on it that people would understand best like if you're going to if you're going to describe a concept to somebody
00:26:18
Andrew Wilsonyou usually use Concepts which are different but they're close that way we can make it Association right that way we can figure out what it's close to
00:26:26
Brian Atlaswhat it's like a crush a crush
00:26:34
Brian Atlasokay isn't a crush typically one directional it could be a reciprocated Crush well okay Crush in my essentially
00:26:46
Brian Atlasmeans you like somebody yeah you're attracted to them yeah right but that doesn't really explain the actual Dynamic that is
00:26:57
MJ / Morganoccurring like the between the two people right no and sometimes it can be an like unrequited kind of Attraction and then other
00:27:08
MJ / Morgantimes um it could be that for me too so it just depends on the person and the
00:27:19
Brian Atlascircumstance okay uh so you said you've been single for 4 months you said in in April you ended things with a guy you were seeing you
00:27:30
Brian Atlaswere seeing him for 4 months is that correct mhm okay was it monogamous mhm okay the 8mon relationship was that
00:27:37
Brian Atlasmonogamous mhm okay um are all are you always
00:27:47
TTS/Donationsmonogamous if it's serious yeah Gore Kitty donated $69 it's a special connection because it's a journey that ends with a crush
00:27:59
Brian Atlasit's all about the journey baby it's all about the journey uh so [ __ ] yeah you said you are monogamous if it's serious but you've never had a boyfriend
00:28:14
TTS/Donationsyeah for uncore theore patriarchy donated $69 sounds like she has a lot of male friends who turn into carnal knowledge no man in her journey will pursue a
00:28:27
Brian Atlasrelationship that's actually not true because I'll fix that I'll get up and fix that um you can't split it right now I don't know what's going on um she said that she was dating a guy and he
00:28:39
TTS/Donationsasked for a relationship and she turned it down Mr bu ated $69 orders from the patriarchy Inquisition Brian you are sitting next to the Grand Inquisitor you are ordered
00:28:50
Brian Atlasto turn over the autographed blue white cup with certificate of authenticity immediately we'll get you one we'll get them one we'll get them one we'll give him the certificate too thank you Mr ble appreciate it thank you thank you thank
00:29:02
Brian AtlasMr Boule thank you Mr ble appreciate it man um okay
00:29:10
TTS/Donationsso have you ever dated Curtis leonore donated $69 Cur thank you let me translate for her so everyone can understand the window she
00:29:23
TTS/Donationsis talking about is a web browser and her special connection is $6.99 9 cents a month I'm sure she is talking to them when they
00:29:34
Brian Atlass i don't you don't have an o no yeah she doesn't have an O but thank you Curtis that's the girl next to her um uh so um have you ever okay have you
00:29:46
Brian Atlasever dated multiple people at the same time yeah okay what's like the most amount that you've dated at the same time like three 4 15 marinite Cath
00:29:58
TTS/Donationsbecause he donated $69 why are you complicating something that doesn't need to be complicated WTF are you hiding or preventing yourself from being labeled as everyone can see
00:30:10
Andrew Wilsonright through your prattle so this as as not May perhaps refined right this is good point which is being made which is usually if I'm
00:30:22
Andrew Wilsontrying to explain a concept to somebody and they they're just kind of like not getting the concept Maybe it's a personalized concept I try to use things that they can closely associate with something else that way I can explain to
00:30:35
Andrew Wilsonthem what's in my head right cuz but that's what you're trying to do draw a picture inside somebody's head so they can understand what you're talking about but it does seem like you're being a little bit evasive on kind of letting us
00:30:46
MJ / Morganknow what you mean here by special connection right right I think the reason why I'm quote unquote complicating it it's not intentional I
00:30:55
MJ / Morganthink it's actually because it's quite complic ated for me in my head um so if you were going to explain the if you were going to explain it to a 10-year-old how would you explain it to
00:31:07
Brian Atlasa 10-year-old we're going to uh we're going to boost the TTS by the way guys so um TTS is now uh 200 go
00:31:15
MJ / Morganahead um explain it to us like we're five unfortunately I do not have the words to articulate myself I actually
00:31:25
MJ / Morganit's I uh I I'm the I guess the yeah no I I don't have the words to
00:31:35
Brian Atlasexplain myself I'm sorry about that okay here we we're going to get everybody's relationship status we will come back to it a little bit but what about you um I special connections only
00:31:46
Brian Atlasfirst let's start with those no no no special connection special connection wait can I um really quick can I have you guys all three of you scoot this way just a bit and scoot your mics along
00:31:57
Brian Atlaswith with you we're just uh if all three of you can just sorry guys we need to make a couple adjustments here uh and scoot your mic with you sorry to interrupt
00:32:09
Andrew Wilsonjust trying to and you guys remember who to blame right yes okay okay go ahead with your
00:32:19
Selena Imairelationship status um I am single I'm not talking to anyone I kind of just focus on myself right now okay and uh
00:32:27
Selena Imaihow long you been single um about like over a year now I've only had one boyfriend and it was for like a
00:32:38
Selena Imaimonth um and that was you guys knew each other total for one month or how long had you known each other prior to becoming um honestly like it was probably just for one month like it was
00:32:51
Selena Imaifor like a summer so like I met him in the summer and then we were dating for a month and then um I just I don't know he just wasn't the person for me and I didn't want to be with him anymore so I
00:33:03
Brian Atlasjust broke up so longest relationship one month yeah okay longest anything one month that includes Friends with Benefits situationship casual hookup one
00:33:13
Brian Atlasmonth yeah okay and you also but you do adult content correct yeah I do mainstream porn only fans and camming and uh is it difficult for you uh to
00:33:26
Selena Imaidate at all because of that or absolutely it is yeah do you date people in the industry or no um I haven't yet but a lot of people in my industry do
00:33:36
Brian Atlasbecause it's easier like just to like understand each other and um it just makes more sense that way okay all right are you desirous of
00:33:48
Selena Imaiuh like a relationship or you kind of fine maybe just keeping things casual or shortterm or honestly I don't want any kind of relationship I don't want any hookup
00:33:58
Selena Imaibecause I'm just like at a point where I did have a lot of hookups and like situationships and stuff in the past and it just didn't do anything for me like
00:34:08
Selena Imaimentally that was positive it I mean it was a learning experience for me but now I understand like what I like in a person what is worth my time to pursue
00:34:19
Selena Imaiand like right now I kind of just want to focus on my work and like myself sure okay how old did you say you were I'm 19
00:34:29
Andrew Wilsonhow didn't you just like graduate high school at 18 um yeah I graduated about two months ago from high school
00:34:38
Selena Imaiyeah so how did we go on your journey M from graduating high school to hardcore porn star um well when I turned 18 I had
00:34:49
Selena Imaimade an only fans because I don't know like I feel like in 20 I made one like 2023 it was just like it's very big on the internet now and so I kind of just
00:35:01
Selena Imaiwanted to try it and so I got into that it didn't really go anywhere um and then last summer um I actually couldn't get a normal job like actually like I applied
00:35:10
Selena Imaito so many places like at least 30 places and I really wanted to you know just have a job you know and so I started doing camming on
00:35:20
Selena ImaiChatterBait um and then I realized like you know it's cool to have like a fan base it's cool to get income that way where I can just do it from home it's
00:35:30
Selena Imaiconvenient um later on I decided to do mainstream porn because my fans were requesting it they really wanted to see it so I started that in like late
00:35:41
Selena ImaiDecember early January and I've been doing that um ever since so it was easy money basically I definitely wouldn't say it's easy money but I definitely thought that before
00:35:53
Selena Imairight now yes I am how much does a how much does somebody who's engaged in that at 19 make um for me it changes
00:36:04
Selena Imaimonthly because I have all these streams of income but um it just depends how persistent I am it's like on average on
00:36:13
Selena Imaiaverage monthly yeah um the most I made was like maybe like close to 10,000 a month but that's not
00:36:23
Selena Imaievery month like sometimes it'll be 4,000 but probably I mean it might have been between 10 to 15,000 a month like if the work is good but sometimes the work isn't good and I only make 3 to
00:36:35
Selena Imai4,000 you know what I mean but it changes per month is it worth it for me um I think it is because I don't know like I made the
00:36:46
Selena Imaidecision to do this job and so I feel like it's worth it for me $10,000 a month isn't that much money mhm right oh yeah completely like some people like
00:36:56
Selena Imaithey make 500 100,000 a month or a million a month but like this field it's like so competitive with the internet now that I just feel the need to like compete so even if I'm not the best even
00:37:08
Selena Imaiif I'm not like the top person I just feel the need to continue because I am competitive and I want to just like keep pursuing it until I feel like I don't want to do it anymore you know you know
00:37:20
Selena ImaiI'm young you know sorry um I was going to ask what your goals are like within the industry um right now now my goals with the in like just like online or like
00:37:32
Selena Imaiwith porn both yeah both um for me it's kind of just like I really want to be like contracted to a brand cuz that
00:37:41
Selena Imaimeans a lot for like you know branding and like you get a certain like you get a guaranteed amount of money per month but other than that I'm just working on
00:37:51
Selena Imaigrowing my audiences on all my platforms because that's what matters the most you know when I don't have the mainstream porn income I have my only fans that I
00:38:00
Selena Imaicould work on or my camming I could work on um so yeah you worried about long-term consequences I am not worried about the long-term consequences only because of
00:38:12
Selena Imaihow many people are in adult content let's say in 20 years like usually when people bring up consequences they usually bring up things like having children or going into a different field
00:38:24
Selena Imaifor me personally I don't see myself doing uh a job where I would be judged for that um and as far as kids or anything in the future like I use a stage name
00:38:36
Selena Imailike I mean I'm not planning to have kids for a while so it would just not really matter at that point there's so many people in the industry now okay can I add to that I find it
00:38:49
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyvery interesting like you sharing your story cuz people like me have like never like met really a porn star and like heard their stories like that so I think
00:38:59
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyit's very interesting just to hear like different perspectives especially people that are not really like exposed to like like never really met like you know people like that so it's definitely very
00:39:11
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyinteresting hold on aren't you involved don't you do o I mean I have only fans but I'm not like porn no it's it's like Playboy I feel like wait but you you did an interview with Adam 22 Yeah but
00:39:23
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / AllyPlayboy porn well no I know I did Adam 22 but I'm saying like a pornographer no I'm saying like woman perspective I've never met like woman perspective how
00:39:32
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allylong have you lived in La for well I just moved here from Nashville so and then I'm from Clear Water so I mean I know Adam for a long time but I just I
00:39:44
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allydon't know it's like interesting hearing somebody you don't really know move on but um have you ever had a uh roster uh I mean kind of but probably
00:39:55
Selena Imailike last year okay not really since then how big was it um probably like two to three people honestly
00:40:05
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00:40:36
Andrew Wilsonfire mdty because that was definitely your fault all mty's fault all Matty's fault Andrew what what what am I doing wrong today I I just want to blame you everything is my fault I feel like we need a bagman
00:40:48
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyaround here somebody just blame everything on yeah she guy yeah sure all right relationship status um I I'm
00:40:58
Brian Atlassingle I'm single but like I like somebody okay uh how long have you uh been liking somebody a week okay long
00:41:07
Brian Atlastime yeah longest longest relationship two years two and a half uh before you started liking this guy how long had you been single for uh I've been single
00:41:18
Brian Atlassince February 17 2023 so like a year and a half yeah all right and this is the first guy who's ever come into the picture since then no
00:41:31
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allythere's been other guys yeah there's been one like one that was like ah you know like I really did like him but he really broke my heart so I don't like to talk about him but I'm going to talk about him uh so well how long were you seeing the guy who broke your heart for 6
00:41:44
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allymonths 6 months yeah like we met each other's family did end January you said you were single for one point but he was but he never asked me to be his girlfriend so like she said a special connection this is why when a girl says
00:41:55
Brian Atlasshe's single she's [ __ ] at least three dudes like yeah for sure a girl who says there's a girl always has a dude in the picture she said no yeah for
00:42:06
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allysure for sure so she agrees but so like I wasn't with him for 6 months and didn't do anything wait what like I wasn't just with him for 6 months and like didn't like you know [ __ ] obviously
00:42:18
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Ally[ __ ] I'm not going to go six month yeah but like you weren't single feel like you're not being blunt with us I'm not being blunt no just cuz I mean you said you were
00:42:30
Brian Atlassingle uh you've been single for 1.5 years but you dated a guy for 6 months uh a little more recently than that so that's just my there that's where well cuz the thing is is that I lived with my two twoyear like the two-year
00:42:41
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyrelationship one I lived with him the recent one I didn't live with him and he never was never official it was more kind of like we were like you know messing around we met each other's family but never did he go out of his way and be like hey be my girlfriend a special connection yeah special
00:42:54
Brian Atlasconnection special connection as part of your journey he he met your parents but you don't con that doesn't constitute his no not really because my relationship with my parents doesn't like I don't even have a relationship
00:43:06
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allywith them so it was kind of like oh you have to do that because you have to oh okay all right wait what yeah like I I made him meet my parents cuz I was living with them at the time but now I don't so if if I would have if he he
00:43:19
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allywere to come back into my life now it would be great I mean I don't want him to though wait it definitely sounds like you do no I don't I don't I I 100%
00:43:29
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allysounds like you do I don't wait you said it would be it would be great no like if so he left me because of my family problems so like now if he were to come back into my life
00:43:40
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyit would be like better it would be different you know but you don't but I don't want him back in my life because he left me because he was a weak person and couldn't stand like hey you have family problems I'll help you through it oh okay hang on hang on so he's not here
00:43:52
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyso I'm going to Devil's Advocate on his behalf okay what did he do that was so terrible he didn't do nothing terrible he was a really good person but he left me because then how was he white calling him weak cuz he's weak he left me
00:44:05
Brian Atlasbecause of my family weak he just said he was a great person no he was a good person but he left me I have a question in each instance where a woman breaks up with a man is that evidence of her being
00:44:17
Brian Atlasweak or is it the man's no actually so if a guy breaks up with a girl it's because he's weak but if a guy if a girl breaks up with a guy it's because she wrong no no no think it's neither It's
00:44:29
Brian AtlasAll Case by casee basis that's fair privacy uh okay hold on privacy mental health substance abuse STI physical safety legal issues Financial
00:44:39
Brian Atlasinstability exploitation only some of the consequences of doing corn yo special connector thank you for the TTS and for it didn't trigger just because uh the AI voice didn't trigger because
00:44:50
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyprobably you said corn so thank you man though thank you for the TTS um go ahead okay so back to what you were saying about um how it's weak if a girl breaks up or whatever you said if a
00:45:02
Brian Atlasguy breaks up said he so he left you because you were H sounded like you're going through like a really crazy time and he didn't want to deal with it what was this crazy time you were going through um basically like my parents they live together but they're not
00:45:15
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allytogether but they're only together for the kids um and just a lot of like you know just crazy stuff at my house you know which he was having to deal with yes when he when he would come over and like we would just be in my room but you
00:45:27
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allywould still hear everything and he didn't want to deal with it anymore no which I like I like I know I say weak but at the same time I understand which is why I say he's not a bad person yeah cuz you didn't want to deal with a bunch of [ __ ] right exactly
00:45:39
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allythat's why that seems fair okay but he's an only child coming from an only like you know he's only child so he doesn't know what it like the struggles are of being in a a household of eight people well why does why does he need to he that's he doesn't need to cuz he's we
00:45:52
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allylike I don't want to deal with any of this [ __ ] okay and that's him he's weak then how's that weak cuz he is that's just my opinion because my [ __ ] or weak deal really no because no because he the thing is
00:46:05
Brian Atlasthat he broke up me January 6th we spent Christmas together like nothing happened let not bring the Insurrection into this yeah keep going keep going alleged
00:46:15
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyalleged that has not been demonstrated but anyway no he no dud he he basically made me base like $1,000 on Christmas and broke up with me right after so he made me get everything he wanted for Christmas and then broke up
00:46:28
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allywait he like made you what do you mean he he was like oh I want this dude's a legend dude I would sue him wait sue him it builds character I
00:46:39
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allywould like just sue him just to sue him doing that emotional distress wait hold wait wait hold on let's I'm being funny but like I would just do it just for
00:46:49
Brian Atlaslike Revenge if someone did sounds like sounds like he deserved the some did that to me with all this [ __ ] but so she she okay you bought him presents I yeah
00:46:59
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / AllyI got him Essentials outfit PS5 PS5 controller for Christmas and then in a couple like two weeks later he broke up with you yes January 6th we we were supposed to go on a sushi date keep the
00:47:11
Brian AtlasPS5 yeah he kept everything but but hold on and the shoes so going to this suing thing got to keep why I'm just curious
00:47:18
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allywhy would you sue a guy for breaking up with you no like I'm not the Ty to like I I don't even know what it's like to be in that position so like I don't know
00:47:30
Brian Atlaslike that's beyond to be in what position spend a bunch of money on a guy then he breaks up you mean what men do to women all the time not stop maybe I maybe I'm just like in a good
00:47:43
Brian Atlasrelationship I don't know I can't even picture that but anybody at any time can choose to exit a relationship exactly even even after they've they've received some sort of benefit yeah what's he
00:47:55
Jolie Elenagoing to do if you're like well okay baby I know that this sucks but you did buy me a PS5 that's what it was a gift anything before that there's no compensation the
00:48:05
Brian Atlasthing is I'm not I never got what legal Theory hold on under what legal Theory like what claim would you bring like some [ __ ] claim probably just just
00:48:15
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allypaper terrorism basically yes yes basically I'm very Su happy you're sue happy I'm very sue happy you've like sued people before
00:48:28
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyyeah for for what well I can't legally talk about everything that happened cuz I signed an NDA but um that's how I bought my house basically secure that piece was through was through law fair
00:48:40
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyno it was um I almost got killed while getting arrested you Su the police department no no no I sued a company um there was a company renting out stolen vehicles to
00:48:50
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allycustomers and um I actually was visiting Los Angeles I can't disclose like the company or anything and um yeah so I got arrested by the police and they pulled me over they
00:49:02
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allypulled a gun on me they beat the crap out of me it was two men and they threw me in jail and I got out and um I saw like an ad on Instagram and I was like are you a victim of this clicked it and
00:49:14
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyum it's really sad a class action lawsuit yeah well basically what happened with other people in the lawsuit um they didn't read the contract in the lawsuit and a lot of them were
00:49:25
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allylike sitting in jail for like up to a year having babies in jail um like a lot of bad things and they got a settlement money but because they didn't read what the lawyer put and they didn't have a
00:49:36
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyteam of lawyers to get that money um they got all of the money taken from them that the victims yeah but I was the only one that got my money cuz I had lawyers yeah but I that's all I can say
00:49:49
Andrew Wilsonthat sounds like a way different situation than you bought me a PS5 bill just say it so slightly different like that that sounds like a legitimate
00:50:01
Andrew Wilsonlawsuit yeah I mean not a hey I just bought you all the stuff for Christmas and now you're leaving me so I'm going to go get a lawyer I don't know I feel like I would do that like but I'm not in
00:50:11
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allythat really I'm just really Petty I feel like you guys into the mic really yeah I'm very Petty well that's really Petty yeah that's for sure thank God that's never happen to me and I feel bad for you I'm sorry so if a guy breaks breaks
00:50:24
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyup with a girl like to be Petty you would f a frivolous lawsuit and just depending on the situation what I don't know I have no idea not in my personal life it would it happened but I'm sure
00:50:37
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allythere's there's situations that do qualify in I mean well I want you to listen to this out loud you're not going to leave me or I'll sue you that's does that sounds no like if the girls spend a lot of money on the
00:50:50
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyguy like if she's spending like thousands of dollars her choice that is her choice yeah like that's crazy though oh yeah I'm going stick beside it oh also I got my card keyed by a guy
00:51:02
Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / AllyI was talking to oh no okay I think you can do for that Dam yeah you can why it's cuz I was outside when I shouldn't have been outside so you didn't listen to him I he's not my boyfriend I should not be listening to him so what he
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allydidn't want you to like go out or something you went out so he k your car yeah oh I'm just still trying to figure out under what legal principle you would who
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyare all these [ __ ] people no if a girl spent hypothetically if you know a girl spent a lot of money on a guy I'm talking about thousands of dollar let's
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Andrew Wilsonsay it's 50,000 50,000 I mean Billy so on a Tuesday she spends 50 Grand and on Wednesday he wakes up and he goes but there get the [ __ ] out I don't want to be with you anymore what what would actually be the problem with that
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allythere's situations like that like Billy Ray sis he's suing his wife cuz uh she spent like 70,000 on the credit card that he authorized to give her no he soon when that's a totally different
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Brian Atlassituation first off there's probably an entire divorce proceding that's going on that's probably a component of their divorce proceeding uh in this case there's
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Brian Atlasno legal relationship between the parties if you're just boyfriend girlfriend assuming you're in a state where there's not common law marriage in which this doesn't apply in this
00:52:21
Brian Atlasscenario how long were you dating the guy um which one the guy who dumped you after you bought him the okay so but in so in your view if a girl's been dating
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allya guy for six months and she buys him things they're not married you think that a legal claim can be brought against I have no idea I'm not in that
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allysituation right but never I would do it just to do it just to be like you you would intentionally bring a frivolous lawsuit and just waste
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allythe hypothetically yes so just a vexatious lawsuit essentially if I spent a lot of money hypothetically yes if there was a lot money pure vindictive spend more money doing the lawsuit no
00:53:06
Andrew Wilsonbut that's not the point she's saying she's saying that she's V she's a vindictive person right that's what she said yeah so she's like I know it's Petty and vindictive but I'm going to do
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Brian Atlasit anyway yeah basically but I'm not in that situation none of that what do you think if we just reverse the genders though so if it was a man who bought a girl bunch of gifts she was no longer happy in the relationship no longer
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Brian Atlassatisfied 2 weeks later after he bought her a nice I don't know necklace or whatever it is you know whatever th000 bucks 2,000 bucks you think justifiable that's their
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Brian Atlasprerogative they want to do justifiable for the man in that situation to file a done hold on let me finish justifiable for a man to file a frivolous and
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyvexatious lawsuit I feel like that's his prerogative he can do whatever he wants and that's exactly you know if he wants to do that go for it so wait hold on just to be clear so let's let me just
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Brian Atlasremove relationships entirely from this conversation do you think people are justified in general to file frivolous and vexatious lawsuits against people if it makes
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allysense okay so in order to succeed on a legal plan Petty Revenge no sure Petty Revenge I like I'm just saying like never happened to me sorry that's in
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyorder to succeed on a legal claim you need to actually have like a cause of action probably just you know you can put them through hell you know worrying and stuff like that so I are you
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allytrolling or I mean I that won't happen to me so I'm just I feel like I'm not trolling no I don't I don't I don't think she's trolling I think she's being honest I would I would do that just to
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allylike make somebody's life miserable even if I were to lose even if they minorly inconvenienced you in some way like no we're talking about like finances like relationship like if a
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allygirl were to spend like a lot of money but um okay have have you um how many like relationships would you say you've had throughout the course of your life not many but like I'm with my boyfriend I have a kid is 5050 with you and your
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyboyfriend yes it is 5050 have you ever had a relationship with where the guy was more so providing getting you gifts and you weren't um not really I was like alone for like a year before my boyfriend so we've been dating for like
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allya year we had a kid but we're planning on getting married but just like we can't agree on a venue and stuff like that but before that I was a loan for a year because I had you know bought my house in Nashville and I had moved there
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Jesse Taylor / CC / Madison / Allyand I didn't know anyone and I was literally just like at music classes like a couple days a week and I would just literally come home after that and like sit and play guitar and be with my